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[Music] crime and we are back with the second part of the myrice Richardson case yeah
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so a quick recap we got a 24y old she's arrested on Wednesday night she is put in jail she's there for a couple hours
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they release her and then maybe you know there's possible sighting of her maybe as a Prowler in somebody's yard um so
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she's been missing for several days they've done several searches big scale searches right the family is basically
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at a loss we have we have a bunch of areas a bunch of red flags going up we got a lot of fumbling around by the
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sheriff's department and law enforcement and and all these we're getting less answers and more questions at this point
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in the case and pretty much the standpoint by the two parties involved in this we have the sheriff's department
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who they're kind of saying that they believe she probably just took off um and what the family is saying is no we
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don't believe she took off mother's intuition is that somebody picked her up you guys let her go in the middle of the
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night in the dark she was in an unfamiliar area she probably got picked up by somebody got in a car and that's
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why we it's been months and we've not seen her and where we left off was several months after the case and after
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the investigation and the searches have gone on the family has begged the sheriff's department for the release of
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surveillance footage inside the jail from that evening when she was picked up and they're claiming there was no tape
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and then all of a sudden there is a tape amazing it just it just appears out of nowhere well not out of nowhere in the
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captain's desk the entire time look magic It's Magic well then some some other magical items happen that it takes
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it takes three months for them to decide to show the video to the family the family thinks that the video has been
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doctored um and it's they have some good points now we've not seen the video I I
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don't believe that that it's available to the public well I've seen clips of it but you've seen Clips but I've only seen
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the clips where um I believe it was on disappeared so if you're looking for something cool to watch I know
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disappeared they have all their episodes on Hulu that might be something that would be interesting to check out but
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they do show some clips but it's just of her in the jail cell yeah and so it's kind of like and again I don't know what
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her Baseline is so I can't tell you if her actions are are weird or not I know that um like we talked about that she
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was a go- go dancer but she also had a a background in actual dance and so you know maybe she's just kind of a Restless
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person and so I don't know the family said it was a little odd but the thing that the family is starting to stick to
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is as she's leaving the station she turns right I believe uh out out of the station and a little bit after um her
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leaving a deputy leaves he leaves from a from another door close by and he leaves
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about two minutes after she leaves the building right and basically okay so let's let's look at it
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from the Viewpoint of the family mhm every turn it seems like the the law enforcement is not on your side seems
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like they're hiding stuff so then you start becoming very weary of one their competency how much they actually care
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or were they involved right and so when they see this and they know that you know it took you months and months and
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months to tell us that you even had a tape and then once you had a tape it took you months and months and months
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for us to see the tape now that we see it you've told us several times that there was no deputies on on duty at the
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jail and now we see one in the footage so are you trying to cover up for this guy so we have this we have this Deputy
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now they don't want to release his name but what they did find out was this dep Deputy was just there dropping off um a
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person in custody and then was going back on on the route they had a partner that day that then uh that deputy and
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his partner then make a citation for speeding or something within 45 minutes now again a big red flag but it comes
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down to if you believe that matrice was the prowler in quotation marks then do does it matter that there was a deputy
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seen leaving roughly with her well but you know this is a situation where the the sheriff's department is called out
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again for you know to do a driveby for this person that might be trespassing on the property that could be mitrice M um
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it's strange too that you know shortly after she's released there is a a shift change um according to her parents uh
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that there was a shift change that would have taken place um I I don't know what
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that means uh because if she was the prowler then she somehow made a trip uh six miles to this home and we can't
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figure out if that was on foot or if somebody picked her up and dropped her off out in the middle of nowhere right
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and and what the sheriff's department is saying is they beli that she was just wandering on foot this what and again it
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goes back to was she calling a friend or was she just talking to herself on the phone who knows but it seems like she
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left on foot so the the sheriff department is saying she got here she was the prowler not like she was you
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know causing any disturbance but she was on somebody's property they believe by foot now the family thinks no no way in
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hell she was drove there now who drove her there was it a police officer I look I don't know if it
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matters if she drove there or she got there by foot it it all it starts to matter is do you believe that's her mhm
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and and that's the that's the question now the one thing that I thought was interesting is during some of these
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searches they did like drone searches and they did like foot searches and they did I think one of the largest searches
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in like California history or or that County's history but uh one of the things that the father brings up
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constantly um his name is Michael Michael Michael Richardson um loved him in sefil um
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one of the things that he brings up is when they started a search they know by the videotape that she leaves to the
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right well when they started the search they left the building and started the search to the left well and then you
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have the the scent dogs that that leave Bill Smith's home where she was seen possibly trespassing and they they
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follow the tracks and follow her scent for a bit but they get lost in horse tracks MH so I think one thing that the
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parents had brought up here and and I I mentioned a shift change now I'm a bit unclear if if that shift change took
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place right around the same time that she was leaving or if they're talking about a shift change that would have
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taken place shortly after the time she was seen possibly trespassing on Bill Smith's property because one question
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that they have brought up to law enforcement was that if somebody from your department was involved now they
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would have had as as far as some somebody with evil intent they have a lead because the lead would be they know
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there's this woman that's out on her own wandering around in the dark with no means of transportation no money no cell
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phone and was she possibly picked up by somebody that would have known that she was in that situation placed somewhere
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near this Bill Smith's home where she was later seen so that she could be picked up again later once that person
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was off work or did not need to be accounted for um the thought here is though that Bill Smith's home we're not
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talking about like a regular neighborhood this is near like trails and hills and things like that where
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people go on Horseback to go venturing out hiking or running now What's Happening Here is there's probably some
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of you uh as our nasly drones are you know boxing your your eard drums you're thinking oh my God cop conspiracy right
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I mean this is like making a murderer right which we every a lot of people jump look there's somebody going I never
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bought the the the cop conspiracy in making a murderer but some people did right uh I don't buy
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that in that case but that's for a different day and but then there's some of you listening going no way cops cop
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conspiracy not happening right don't buy it well I was just reading a report the
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other day and and normally I never jump on the cop conspiracy bandwagon but I was reading this report where this
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police officer was spending 6 months in jail which is not enough time for this crime that he did but there was a car
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accident the cop goes up you know to take the report ends up raping the person in the in the car accident now he
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only serves 6 months in jail he's he should serve the rest of his life in [ __ ] jail as far as I'm concerned um
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but this stuff does happen so when when you hear reports like this it's not crazy with all these things going on
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that the the the parents are champion and going hey look there's something not right here and it's either that you're
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fumbling douchebags or you had something to do with it now I'm I'm with you I I seldom
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believe in a in a police officer being the perpetrator of horrible crimes but we all know it does happen on occasion
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when my where my mind starts to wander in this case is let's let me think about this for a second okay I want to I want
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to this is this kind of the path that I went down when I was thinking would are you going to like take five minutes
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minutes AG go in the corner would a sheriff have been involved one of these would have a deputy have been involved
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would it you know somebody that that knew she was being released that could pick her up later offer her to drive her
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to her car I mean that's the perfect ruse to get her in your vehicle because hey I know where your car is impounded
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and I have the ability to get you your car back why don't you give me a I'll give you a ride and not only that I'm
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not some stranger that's out driving around in the dark I'm the police and well and and my thought too is that you
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have officers when they they pick up this beautiful girl young 24 and what was the joke that we think that she made
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when they said you need to pay your bill and she says I don't have any money but
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how about you know I pay you in sex which we we believe is a joke we believe that's her joking correct that that was
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she was serious by that but there's this joke and so then there's these rumors then they take the girl to the jailhouse
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then the cops are talking then people on their radio are talking and they go and
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and I guarantee you cuz guys you know look I all for I'm a dude's dude right I'm a dude's dude man's dude whatever
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when it comes down to it there's a lot of creepy dudes and so how many cops are going hey did you see that hot chick you
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know did you see that hot chick that we picked up she's a little nuts she she offered sex to the manager to the
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manager you know so then somebody sees her leaving and goes hey well if she offered the manager sex maybe I pick her
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up take her to her car maybe she offers me sex you're exactly right right you took the words out of my mouth if if she
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was willing to offer that to the manager what would she give me in trade for for
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a ride or for me helping her out and then guess what she's not she's not heterosexual she's she's a lesbian right
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but they don't they don't I know that but what I'm saying that would be less likely that she was going to offer sex
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for a stupid little you know favor right right right um and you know that could have turned Sinister at some point it
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could have turned bad uh in that situation and I don't want to sound I don't know how to make this not sound
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weird but she was weird she was very attractive now do I believe that attractive women she didn't like your
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team though right but do I believe that more that that attractive women are more
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likely to become a victim um I would I don't know in every situation but I would say one that is wandering out in
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the dark or wandering around by herself might be more likely to be picked up right yeah um and I think that's the
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that's the con conc the family has right and well the other thing too is that when they talk about her personality
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okay so her personality the the first thing is the sheriff say well maybe she got on a bus well first of all her
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mother says she's never rode on a bus she's never taken a city bus anywhere in her life she wouldn't even know how to
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do that so we don't think she got on a bus and second of all she says myrice is not an outdoor person she does not like
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bugs she does not like the dirt she does not like the elements she is not one to
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just have taken off and wandered out into the middle of nowhere and went hiking all of a sudden in the dark and
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then again that morning after she's seen well and I I think the issue with that is they know they know their daughter
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when she's mentally stable I think the the question in here is you don't know what if somebody is going through a
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mental illness if she's dealing with u manic episodes or hyper manic or any type of episodes like that you don't
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don't know how that person is going to react so you have and you know if this was her first episode that they know of
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of her being manic then they have no way to judge how she would react why she's Manic and that's when they really start
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talking about and going through the things that she did that day and the events that may have led up to her going
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to that restaurant so her mother and her her Aunt were both saying that the reason why we think that she was having
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mental issues was that she she had been sending us some strange text that day to
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which they were both responding you know how can I help you do you need to talk to somebody and now mind you this is
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this is hindsight right right right and but that's their proof to the Sheriff's Department that we got to be worried
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about her state of mind we think she went nutso and she was out wandering around in the middle of nowhere and
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somebody took advantage of that so some of the things that had happened that day
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she like I said she had worked in a secretarial type position at this Shipping Company MH so she did work
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there that morning uh she went and she took a lunch break now remember she had said to somebody at some point that day
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that she was watching a soap opera and God had instructed her to take the afternoon off so she did not return to
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work that day uh meanwhile her mom and her aunt are receiving these strange text and at the same time we said that
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she was a go- go dancer and she went by the name Hazel well she had business cards that she had printed up uh with
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her dancer name on on these business cards her aunt had found a whole bunch of these business cards laying all over
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the front porch of of her home with a written note on her car which made absolutely no sense I I read it and I
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thought of trying to include portions of that note but it made so it made no sense at all to even try to to try to
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pick through it um so after working a half day leaving for lunch she does go to the great grandmother's house at some
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point and then she does leave and she does not return it's believed at that time as when she went off driving ended
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up in Malibu and ended up at the at Joffrey's restaurant well I mean the again the
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whole uh I was watching a soap opera and it and it told God told me through the soap opera
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like that's like is again is that just a joke is that just is that a joke or is that for real you
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know what I mean like she she made the joke well I'll just pay for you know what about a sexual favor to pay off
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this bill you know was she just making some absurd jokes right well after several large scale searches like we had
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talked about early in 2010 mitrice's Father Michael Richardson was hanging out in Las Vegas he is riding in the
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back of a vehicle when he spotted matrice who he said looked as if she was working the streets now Michael got out
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of the vehicle so and he wanted to run up to her so but before he could tell the driver to stop and he could get out
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of the vehicle and run up to her he lost sight of her so he's like in a taxi or or Uber or something yes and where we
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say he saw myrice mind you he believes that he saw myri and he lose sight of her and he does not see her for the
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remainder of her trip his trip I'm this is really confusing to me cuz on one it's like you go with the idea that this
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is a grieving father he loved his daughter he wants her to be safe he's in Vegas he thinks he you know um he thinks
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he sees his daughter so so that part I go he's grieving he's just making this up in his head but when he says well she
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but she was a prostitute that that she looked like she was working in the street because as the
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as a father you don't want to say well my daughter it was working the street street so that makes me almost believe
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his his sighting more right but I The Grieving part you know so but because of this sighting now we're going to start
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getting a bunch of more sightings of matrice in um in Las Vegas yeah and he said where his head was at was that he
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thought maybe somebody that this was not her character that he thought that this
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was something that maybe somebody had taken her captive that night and taken her to Las Vegas and put her to work so
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to speak um in June of 2010 the same year a high school friend of mitrice's reported having seen her in a Vegas
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casino MH uh Las Vegas PD said that during this time U over the course of several months they had received about
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70 such reports of mitrice sightings in Las Vegas again a lot of the times is th
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this case started becoming uh publicized and and good for the case I mean anytime
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that you can talk about a case and get the word out and I think that had a lot to do with the family I also believe
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that had a lot to do with the the the father was very ad adant and he was um anybody that was going to talk to him
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he' talk to you about it now sometimes he'd say some goofy [ __ ] when he was being interviewed um like there's one
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interview where he keeps on reiterating that you know he he is a black father but he's involved in his child's life
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even though she's missing he's involved in his child's life I don't know if he was an absentee you know parent before
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this or not but what I do know is anybody that was giving him a microphone to talk he he talked so then he sees
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deciding then we get all these other ones and I think that is just people wanting to see what they want want to
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see and in most of these cases we're talking about a face in the crowd and we both know that if you want if you look
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hard enough and you want to see a face in a crowd you might just you might trick yourself into believing that you
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did the other issue here too I think is we talked about myrice being in pageants
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we talked about her uh being a goo dancer and there's a lot of pictures of her outside of both the pageants and
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working at as a dancer so we see a lot of different uh views a lot of different looks of myri and a lot of times if you
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watch videos of her on YouTube you know missing persons videos of her on YouTube
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they'll show you five or six pictures of her at once where she she does you know
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she looks like herself and all of them but she's done up in some and she's casual in others and like I said if you
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want to see a face in a crowd you're probably going to see it yeah and with the whole classmate thing first he is
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hearing that his classmate is missing he sees this lady he tries to confront her and he's yelling you know
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my trees my trees and this girl starts acting a little crazy and a little weird and takes off now again that could be as
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simple as this girl is not matrice and you're yelling matrice at her and she's going who who's this crazy [ __ ] and
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she takes off running or again that could be you know look if you're a go- go dancer it doesn't matter if you're a
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go- go dancer if you're a bartender if you're a server if you're a guy in a band at a bar you know bars are normally
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not like this Hub of positive Lifestyles oh really it's not like a collective group of saints getting together to uh
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no there's just some the sick there's just some bad [ __ ] that can go on and especially in that enironment it's one
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of those things where it's like you know every friend I have friends that have danced you know men and women that have
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danced uh in gay and straight clubs and I've had friends that have been cocktail
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waitresses even the cocktail waitresses are offered drugs oh I'm sure you know so I think that's the other thing too is
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if maybe she was going to uh Malibu to meet somebody that she met at through this you know dancing and maybe maybe
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they did give her a ride and if they did give her a ride then again I have a problem with all this stuff if
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you believe that she wasn't the the trespasser you know what I mean like that she was picked up at night and if
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she was picked up at night then to me it's probably somebody that she knew uh uh you know somebody that she wasn't
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telling other people about maybe some shady character from the club but if you believe that it was her trespassing then
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to me she's picked up by a stranger mhm you know or unless she went into you know because the trail leads to the
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other guy's house what if she got in the house and she remembered somebody's number I mean there's so many questions
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you know but I don't fully buy the the Las Vegas stuff well one thing that has brought up a lot of other questions is
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during the summer of 2010 they're doing more searches in the area of these horse
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trails and out in the hills and the mountains and they come across a mural a large scale mural uh depicting
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African-American women in sexual positions most of them nude um and they believe that this could be a potential
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lead or it could have been done by the person responsible for her disappearance yeah and this uh this is kind of creepy
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that all right we're back cheers everybody and when we left off we're talking about a mural yes and what this
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mural is is this was found by Searchers who were out looking for matrice Richardson mhm okay this is the summer
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of 2010 now this search was highly publicized um everybody knew that this was going to happen it's about over a
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100 people were out looking for her and it's mostly hikers and cyclists that were out looking for her and what is
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discovered in this area it's a Concrete Culvert which is off of a road um you know and you have the drainage pipes the
00:28:51
large drainage pipes that you see near coming out of the Culver it's basically a large concrete wall and somebody had
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painted uh what is described as a racist mural um it depicts many African-American women that are nude and
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they some of them are in sexually explicit positions um and it even seems to show a couple of uh White faces
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looking on or looking at the women you have women that are tied up uh one that is in a wheelchair uh some that are on
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you know on their knees um I don't know how much we can Des cribe this without boring the listeners because without
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looking at it it's it's tough to uh I'll post that on Instagram so if you want to
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check that out you know go to our Instagram at True Crime garage uh what's also interesting about this is that some
00:29:41
of the the ladies are not they're outlined most of the ladies are outlined in Black right and uh but some of the
00:29:49
ladies are outlined in blue kind of like a ghostly blue yeah I I thought the same
00:29:54
thing and there's one that's in a sexual position and one of the things that makes people say that this is a a mural
00:30:01
that is also depicting uh my Mitri and then possibly other victims is because one of the girls that is outlined in
00:30:09
Blue uh some people think that means that those victims are dead uh on this girl's butt uh is a la symbol and
00:30:18
everybody knew that you know Richardson was from La yeah and this this is a large mural though I mean it's it's
00:30:26
pretty darn big and it would have taken somebody quite a bit of time to to paint
00:30:31
this thing yeah um now they find along with this mural they find paint brushes and paint can Lids at the same location
00:30:39
and the paint on these items had not yet dried yeah so it's almost like somebody
00:30:45
either they happened to do it in the area that they were going to be searching just before mhm or they did it
00:30:51
on purpose which is creepy the problem here too is you know like like we said it's it's African American women and I
00:30:58
believe there's one part on on the concrete on the ground that's kind of leading into the area there's a walkway
00:31:04
where somebody had painted something like welcome to afro land or something like that and they they keep all the
00:31:10
women are having these afro style haircuts this is not a heavily diverse populated area well yeah and this is
00:31:18
actually not a well populated area they're purposely looking for her out there because they think she could have
00:31:23
been wandering basically out in the middle of nowhere and it it seems to me like you said it's one of those things
00:31:28
where they this the search was publicized and somebody was just trying to make a point what that point was I
00:31:35
don't know if it was malicious or not you know um it well here's the thing when when you see it and you know why
00:31:45
the people were out there searching it sends chills up your spine it's creepy now had had I not known why the
00:31:51
Searchers were out there it may not have may not have scared me you know what I mean I mean it kind of it's almost
00:31:57
terrifying in a way to look at it um but but knowing that my trees could be out there somewhere or could have been
00:32:06
abducted near this point yeah is what is absolutely terrifying about it is this is this the killer coming back to taunt
00:32:13
us and to tell us that he's got more than one victim you know because there's many girls many women that are depicted
00:32:20
on this mural now the the thing here is I'm sure that it was well photographed so they could figure out who had done
00:32:27
the quote unquote artwork or graffiti better to say um but you can find pictures of it on the Internet it's it's
00:32:35
despicable stuff really uh but they quickly painted over all of the items uh all of this mural I believe it was the
00:32:43
very next day mhm a lot of people thought this was going to be a significant lead do you know where this
00:32:48
lead takes us uh yeah yeah I I I'm with you I you know I can see how the family would think this would be a significant
00:32:55
lead uh especially the area um but what ends up happening is I'm not certain if it's weeks after they find it or maybe a
00:33:04
couple months after they find it but they do track down the person that is responsible or persons that was were
00:33:11
responsible for painting this mural um because they had put up graffiti in other locations and it was all of the
00:33:20
same style may have even been signed you know some people sign their graffiti uh
00:33:24
there's a couple of issues here though and some red flags by the sheriff's department they pick up the people and
00:33:30
and I don't think that they're making up that they found the um the person who painted this the artist let's call them
00:33:38
or the criminal whatever you want to call them uh I don't believe that they're making it up because they had a
00:33:43
statement by the person or persons uh for why they painted it they said that they are a graffiti artist that this is
00:33:50
something they do in multiple locations and their style is reminiscent of one of
00:33:57
their favorite graffiti artist so it seemed a little and there's a little more detail to that but it seemed a
00:34:03
little much for something just like the sheriff's department to say well we found who did it and uh whatever the
00:34:09
problem here though is the persons that were responsible for it they didn't charge them with anything they they
00:34:16
didn't you know they didn't give them a fine they they they simply painted over it said we know who did it they don't
00:34:23
have anything to do with The Disappearance I wonder if there's some kind of law that that they can't charge
00:34:28
them for something you know I don't know if they agreed to admit to doing it in in trade for not being charged with it
00:34:35
we don't know the details of it because they won't tell us who did it the problem I have here though is that
00:34:40
particular sheriff's department has a zero tolerance on uh policy on graffiti right so you you know you can't really
00:34:48
have a but maybe maybe finding the the uh the authenticator or finding the person that painted it was more
00:34:55
important and so you had to wave that that I don't know it seems strange to me it was very it was a very despicable
00:35:01
display of graffiti uh and extremely distasteful knowing that they're out looking for a missing young woman uh
00:35:09
yeah it's I mean it's just weird I mean there's and the thing that doesn't make a lot of sense to me is why some of the
00:35:15
women are outlined with black and why some of them are outlined with this like ghostly like blue it's it's very strange
00:35:23
so well not only outlines some of them are are almost completely blue gray and and other ones are very colorful yeah
00:35:30
you know almost alive versus dead kind of thing yeah and so okay so here here's where we're at on the case right so she
00:35:37
goes to the restaurant she doesn't pay she gets arrested she goes to the jail she's released from the jail we got
00:35:45
searches going on we also have some eyewitnesses thinking that maybe she got away somehow and now she's in Las Vegas
00:35:53
and now we got all these searches continuing and now now what happens what's next well what happens is the
00:36:01
there are remains that are found now this is out in a extremely remote location this is August 9th 2010 right
00:36:10
around noon just afternoon the uh this is in the Santa Monica Mountains this is deep in the dark Canyon Rangers checking
00:36:19
on a remote area known for growing pot discovered human remains now when I first heard about this I kind of I
00:36:26
wanted call BS on this I was like no you want to say [ __ ] right I wanted to the cops founder uh they you know I I
00:36:34
was looking at all these conspiracy theories uh but but the truth truth of it is that this area well we're not done
00:36:41
with red flags law enforcement had discovered over a year ago what is suspected to be an area known or used by
00:36:49
a Mexican cartel to grow pot it's a grow spot um when conducting a flyover the year before law enforcement spotted
00:36:57
marijuana plants and of course no persons were present uh these plants were simply planted and left there to
00:37:04
mature but law enforcement when they discovered it they pulled over 1,000 marijuana plants from the site so the
00:37:12
Rangers were going back to check on the spot to make sure that somebody hadn't returned and and used it as a grow spot
00:37:18
again for the following year uh the Rangers spotted some old equipment lying around hundreds of feet of garden hoses
00:37:25
that were used to siphon Creek water into PVC lines of course this would be used to water those awesome weeds that
00:37:33
they're growing um but there there was no new plants at this time and so they ventured on down and this is where they
00:37:42
found the remains they noticed a skull and under under debris of leaves and dirt a semide decomposed naked body
00:37:52
there was some hair still attached to the skull there was some hair scattered nearby uh what appeared to be an earring
00:37:59
and some kind of metallic object were Tangled in that hair that was found nearby um and the the Lost Hills
00:38:10
deputies they are called out to the scene and they arrive on the scene approximately around 1:30 p.m. that day
00:38:17
and we have some articles of clothing as well right yes yes there were a uh there
00:38:23
was a pair of jeans and a belt that was found pink belt and a bra correct um to my knowledge the rest of the items that
00:38:33
they may have been looking for were missing at that time yeah it's uh and so like we know um matrice was wearing
00:38:41
jeans and a a pink belt so you know there's they need to get the coroner involved to to identify these remains
00:38:50
and then we get some kind of confusion with this as well well yeah what what ends up happening is before the coroner
00:38:58
gives his or her permission for the remains to be removed the sheriff's department decides to remove them well
00:39:05
and think about okay here's the problem with think about this family for a second so she is uh arrested at at at
00:39:15
the sorry the restaurant it's a long day uh she's arrested at the restaurant that's not a crime scene cops don't make
00:39:23
that a crime scene sure her car is Ina they don't make that a crime scene she's released from the jail they don't make
00:39:30
that a crime scene and then she's found you know there's remains found and we think it's her mhm and they again don't
00:39:40
make that a crime scene right they take the the remains before they you know basically what happens it's pretty
00:39:49
simple the sheriff says we got you know we we're following protocol we're following this this by the book now
00:39:57
we're talking they already have judgments against them they have lawsuits against them from the family
00:40:02
from other families for treating inmates wrong for treat treating people in the jail wrong uh they got a lot of issues
00:40:10
in this department but here's another one and a lot of people go well wouldn't you take
00:40:15
this a lot more serious wouldn't you you know you have all these people you're under you know we have all this
00:40:23
publicity for this case you're under a micro Scope when don't you handle this with care so there's a mi
00:40:30
miscommunication between the sheriff department and the cinat office and then once they act coiners actually get the
00:40:39
remains the coiners are now vocal about this what ends up happening is that the sheriff has a uh they investigate this
00:40:48
the coordinators investigate this and then they also have a private group investigate this all three findings were
00:40:54
that at the end of the day yes they have botched some things maybe they some made
00:40:58
some misjudgments about this case and about this this lady and how they've handled everything
00:41:06
but at the end of the day the moving of the remains was a misunderstanding and I
00:41:11
don't know if I buy that yeah yeah you're exactly right they claim a misunderstanding I claim BS because
00:41:17
here's the situation the Lost Hill sheriff's department and their personnel had exclusive access to the remains for
00:41:24
about six and a half hours M they kept the coroner team on standby for almost 4 hours of that time and without
00:41:32
permission which is state code they removed the remains without without permission so they're doing multiple
00:41:40
things wrong here now keep in mind this is a very remote location like we said that these people had to be flown in Via
00:41:47
helicopter to get to the spot um their their reasoning is they can claim miscommunication but they've also said
00:41:56
that you know what um it was getting dark and we were getting worried that animals might come and and mess with the
00:42:03
remains so we decided we had to make a judgment call and we had to pull them out of there it's just you know they
00:42:08
they're constantly covering their ass in this case well here's some other things
00:42:12
that they failed to do you know mind you they were at that scene for at least 6 and a half hours what they failed to do
00:42:19
during that time is they they failed to collect soil samples they did not photo doent the scene they didn't photo
00:42:27
document the body positioning or the individual stages of recovery yeah uh the Rangers took some pictures of the
00:42:36
scene so looks like we should have let the park rangers conduct the investigation on this case right I think
00:42:42
they would have had a better job of solving it uh listen according to the lieutenant Michael rosson and the
00:42:48
captain David Smith the deputies were given permission from the coroner staff member from from a staff member right
00:42:56
that they may move the skull to see what was beneath the debris pile and when they did so because the skull was still
00:43:03
connected to the rest of the skeleton when they lifted the skull the body followed intact and Unearthed itself as
00:43:11
they lifted the skull it was later determined that five of the neck bones were not even recovered from the scene
00:43:18
that day so the captain in the Lieutenant's statement about the recovery not my cap not this Captain the
00:43:24
the recovery of the skull the skeleton the recovery of the remains is not only false but it's impossible right the head
00:43:31
the skull was not connected the but it's just like the [ __ ] tape you know what
00:43:36
I mean it's like it's a blatant lie we caught you in a blatant lie that you you have surveillence of her in jail and
00:43:44
then it comes out months and months later and then it takes you months and months and months to show the family
00:43:49
because you got to doctor it up cuz you're just a bunch of [ __ ] liars and then you say well what happened was we
00:43:56
moved the skull and then that was connected to everything and then then that's what happened and then based off
00:44:02
the coiner report you're you're [ __ ] liar again well the things that the sorry the things that the sheriff's
00:44:08
department would claim is that you know the the cause of death is ultimately ruled undetermined right but the
00:44:15
situation we have here is that the sheriff's department is going to say that she probably succumbed to the
00:44:20
elements or that she had been bitten by a rattlesnake they do have rattlesnakes in the area but let's keep in mind the
00:44:26
state of California only averages two of those deaths a year so she would be one
00:44:30
of two unlucky people to strike the rattlesnake Lottery and get bit out in the middle of nowhere uh their basic
00:44:38
claim is they believe that she took off on her own on foot she ended up there she got distressed this this is a hard
00:44:47
area to walk in a hard area to that she succumbed to the elements and at some point the this is I guess a flash flood
00:44:56
Zone and that it may have flooded and that would be the cause for why because we said her body's naked the the remains
00:45:04
were naked so those clothing items that were found the belt the jeans the bra those items according to them would have
00:45:11
been removed after she had already passed so I I I don't buy that of course nobody nobody in their right mind would
00:45:20
buy that how how jeans genes we're talking about genes here they don't just come off tight jeans well yeah and so
00:45:29
jeans don't just come off of you and as well as I mean maybe a bra maybe I could
00:45:34
maybe I could if my mind could wander wild and maybe some animals helped with this and maybe you could say that about
00:45:41
the bra but you can't say that about the jeans you can't say that about the belt
00:45:45
with the belt it it went through the loops you know there's belt loops here it unbuckled itself and went through the
00:45:51
loops and they're found elsewhere they're not found like right by the body they're found you know like 100 ft away
00:45:57
or something like that so here here's a couple problems we have the the other thing is they they recovered hair and
00:46:05
the body was partially mummified that means that there's hair on portions of that body as well they failed to comb
00:46:12
the hairs of that body to see if they could recover somebody else's hairs I mean this is right CU it could be a
00:46:18
mixture yeah this whether she ended up there on her own and did succumb to the to the elements or if she was placed
00:46:26
there by somebody else mhm regardless they could not have botched this thing more you couldn't you couldn't you
00:46:33
couldn't attempt to screw this thing up more you know what I mean it's it's it's
00:46:38
horrible right and then that becomes a question did they they botch it because they're you know dumb asses or did they
00:46:46
poch it because they they're trying to cover something up I mean like and I just think the whole thing where you go
00:46:52
oh well there's this flood that look we we've seen in cases where people have had manic episodes and Hyper manic
00:47:00
episodes and all that stuff some sort of psychosis going on where they start removing layers of clothes M so that
00:47:08
makes more sense you know that she's wandering aimlessly she's dehydrated she doesn't know what's going on inside of
00:47:15
her own brain and so she's she deres herself that makes way more sense right you know but they don't even Brin that
00:47:22
up it seems like not only are we going to lie to you but when we do lie to you we're going to insult your intelligence
00:47:27
as well this is such a Shannon Gilbert type case isn't it you know when you think about the the clothing found
00:47:34
somewhat nearby the the naked body found out in the middle of nowhere in in harsh
00:47:40
conditions you know areas that would be tough to travel on foot um you know they
00:47:45
claim with Shan Shannon Gilbert from the Long Island serial killer case that that
00:47:49
she may have shed her own clothes and and kept wandering into the brush yeah um and then she was possibly having that
00:47:56
a mental breakdown and some sort of psychosis here's the other thing though I would just like their explanations to
00:48:02
make some sense like you said it would make a lot more sense if she if they would have said she shed her own clothes
00:48:08
there's another thing too when when a when a body is mummified MH you know it it becomes awfully stiff and it tends
00:48:16
and it stays in the manner in which it last rest well and this happens normally through extreme heat they say right yeah
00:48:23
and well and and it could because it's partially covered up but the thing here is her one of her arms I believe it was
00:48:31
her left arm was kind of tucked up almost like a you know how people do the chicken dance almost like the chicken
00:48:37
wing but with the with the fist facing outward so it's it's mummified tight up against her her body mhm so if that
00:48:46
brawl came off postmortem then I don't understand how it gets underneath that arm you know
00:48:53
it's just none of this makes any sense no and the other thing too is like okay so again um the other possibility is
00:49:01
she's in this re um in this area that she's not familiar with and this she could have fell and she would have fell
00:49:08
from on top of the Ravine that she would po you know they found her body next to
00:49:13
a boulder a bigger Rock and it's possible that she hit her head now there's no none of the bones that were
00:49:21
found and we don't know you know again did the police tamper with what evidence they did find but the bones that they
00:49:28
did find um and they found bones multiple times but the bones that they did find there's no trauma right so
00:49:36
there's no signs of a bullet wound or bullet wound or being stabbed or or hit over the head or falling to the death
00:49:44
well no but that but there is a lot of cases that you can get hit in the head and there's no uh trauma to the bones
00:49:51
and stuff but but there's inner bleeding of the brain so I was talking to a nurse
00:49:56
friend about this case uh big shout out to all the nurses um and she said that's
00:50:02
a very likelihood and then if she was going you know if she has this brain hemorrhaging what is her body doing she
00:50:09
might be dis robing cuz she's hot she might not have any clue what she's doing so at least those things make some
00:50:16
logical sense but all this other stuff just sounds like a bunch of horeshit now it I do we should clear up that they did
00:50:24
find most of her remain they found most of her bones um there were some bones missing um like we said the neck bones
00:50:31
um one of them you know when we talked about the Shannon Gilbert case we talked about the hyoid bone uh which which
00:50:37
would usually depict somebody being if that's broken you can usually justify and figure out that that that means that
00:50:44
somebody was strangled to death or that their possibly their throat was slit unfortunately the vertebrae and the neck
00:50:50
bones that were missing from her remains would you can't surmise what happened as
00:50:56
far as being strangulation or throat cut well and that that's the that's the other problem here is I mean you don't
00:51:01
have to be some crazy uh True Crime junkie to know that and so again if these cops are on the scene and who were
00:51:09
these cops you know were they cops that were in that would have been able to see
00:51:14
her that night that knew her I mean like it's just it's a case that you know it's like
00:51:22
we have all these questions and you can't even passs out you can't even just there's a look there would be this huge
00:51:30
argument that she never you know she never left that area and she she um she died there by the hands of of a cop or
00:51:39
she died by the hands of some other crazy person or she succumbed to the elements or she hit her head it was
00:51:45
accidental or whatever so that's that's likely but on the other hand you can't rule out that
00:51:52
somebody did see her in Vegas and then cuz the idea is well what if she was working for somebody or somebody had her
00:51:59
on drugs and got her in the sex working ring and it wasn't working out uh for him or her or whatever or this group and
00:52:08
then they decided well they're still looking for her in that area let's kill her and dump her remains there MH you
00:52:15
can't rule that out with 100% certainty I don't think that's as logical but you can't roll it
00:52:22
out what do you think C what do you think happened your captain I don't know I think look people
00:52:29
need to do their job at the end of the day if you sign up to Serve and Protect please Serve and Protect um the there's
00:52:36
some trouble things in this case I mean I think they I think so many times in cases they bring up the race card a
00:52:42
little too quick I mean their lawyer mentioned well if this if her last name was Spears or lowan they would offered
00:52:49
to ride home well you know I don't know if that's the case you know uh I mean I mean we could argue that people that are
00:52:58
are good-look get advantages right you know there's all these things that we can argue at the end of the day I don't
00:53:04
think the cops did their job I think the mental health issue is is one that we're
00:53:09
going to be wrestling with for years cuz the family saw signs of this you know here's the problem just very shortly
00:53:17
before she disappeared though this wasn't didn't seem to be an ongoing thing well here's the issue is like yes
00:53:24
the the cops did some shitty stuff they lied about stuff they should not do that
00:53:29
you were paid by these people you are paid by the community to Serve and Protect not to lie not to try to cover
00:53:39
your ass you know if you made mistakes own up to it own your own truths own your own [ __ ] people right this is what
00:53:46
they should have done and and they didn't and if they would have came forward with this stuff there wouldn't
00:53:51
be as many questions you know so do do I think they were involved I don't think so I I I it
00:54:03
doesn't make any sense if they were involved then wouldn't they just take her away somewhere else to some other
00:54:10
part of the country or some other but she you know she leaves she leaves the jail and then at some point she's
00:54:20
trespassing or we and I'm I'm pretty sure that that was her I feel like it's her and I and I'll tell
00:54:27
you why because it seems to me a little improbable that you have somebody matching the description that closely uh
00:54:36
within hours within miles it just seems too convenient for it to be somebody else
00:54:43
yeah unless again it's some conspiracy and the guy's just making up the sighting he's not I I don't get that
00:54:50
Vibe at all I get that retired reporter uh the thing here is though you say they
00:54:56
and I don't know that it needs to be the sheriff's department committed this murder I feel like if if if no no I
00:55:04
think I don't think it would be I think if a member of the Sheriff's Department's involved it's a member and
00:55:09
here's the problem here's the problem I have with where she's found okay I don't
00:55:14
see her but I don't see her getting to that location on her own but but then you argue you say but
00:55:21
Nick she just made it six miles to this guy's house in the dark so so maybe maybe she did make it on her own but but
00:55:28
here's the problem well I think the thing is just going on that point real quick if she was manic if she was going
00:55:35
through Somey sort of psychosis we're talking about the the the the the human body has way bigger C capabilities than
00:55:45
we were aware of you know if you were stone cold sober and not mentally ill could you do this hike you'd probably
00:55:52
eventually break down and quit I don't know if I could do the hike now right that's what I'm saying but but but in
00:55:58
this state you just keep going right maybe when you shouldn't and maybe that caused to some accident hitting her head
00:56:06
or dehydration or I don't know here's the strange thing though this that I keep going back to is her remains are
00:56:14
found in an area that is known to whoh it's known to law enforcement and it's known to for by drug dealers right you
00:56:23
know by by people drug cartel so who if if she didn't get there on her own who put her there I would have to say it's
00:56:31
one or the other right um or she was close enough to that area that's that's another theory that maybe she had found
00:56:40
her way there somehow and maybe a member or members from the drug cartel had come
00:56:45
back to to check on crops or to plant and found her wandering around now again here's what here's where it doesn't make
00:56:52
a lot of sense is people that so the Theory online that you see constantly is that she was wandering around finds this
00:57:00
stash of weed finds this drug cartel and because because she found this uh this theed that they had to kill her well I
00:57:11
don't know that they're saying that I think that this theory is more a little more evil than that where it's going oh
00:57:18
we're out in the middle of nowhere and there's this strange young woman out here nobody knows that she's here nobody
00:57:23
knows that I'm here like it's just a weird coincidence um they did find uh in this
00:57:31
location they did find like like rappers like like uh candy bar wrappers and things like that um which may may have
00:57:39
been there from before when when they were out planting these crops and setting up the irrigation system for for
00:57:46
the weeds but the other thing that I found strange in this case as well you know it's all these little things her
00:57:52
death her disappearance is extremely mysterious but then you have all these other tidbits that are weird dealings by
00:57:59
the sheriff's department in my mind they they didn't fully search the car that well they didn't they didn't really they
00:58:05
painted over the mural very quickly they didn't charge the people that had had destroyed that property I mean that's
00:58:11
tax dollars that it cost to clean that thing up and and then last but not least what what do the Rangers say that they
00:58:18
found when they when they came to inspect that area they found the hoses from last year's uh crop they founded
00:58:24
the PVC pipes from last year's crop they the these these candy bar wrappers and fast food rappers we don't know if
00:58:31
they've been there for over a year they probably they could have been there for over a year we don't know why because we
00:58:35
didn't bother to clean any of that crap up when we were here the first time when
00:58:39
we saw that a crime had been committed I know that they that the sheriff's department and their personnel and their
00:58:44
staff is not the not uh you know landscapers or or America's janitors but come on I mean let's put a little more
00:58:53
effort into these jobs well and and one of the things that her her father talks about is that you know one of the
00:59:00
easiest ways to get to a uh this land would be through like a ATV that was possible through ATV and this sheriff
00:59:07
department they actually had a search team and and part of their search team was they had ATVs so but the theory that
00:59:14
I was going with is yeah it's probably more Sinister than that so she's out in the middle of nowhere oh I'm here so
00:59:20
then they this guy or people rape her and kill her and then the other theory is that the
00:59:29
sheriffs know about this crop they know about the gangs but they are working with them on some level you know like a
00:59:36
kickback or we just we don't mess with you you don't mess with us we pretend you don't exist you right and you give
00:59:42
us a little Kickback and and look there there's a lot of there's a lot of evidence of cops getting Kickbacks in
00:59:49
drug areas you know hey this is my corner I give you a little bit of money you go away
00:59:55
and now you're not making 70 grand a year you're making 150 Grand a year you know so there are those cases I I don't
01:00:03
see it being like that you know I think I think the mental the mental health angle is some that brings up the most
01:00:13
questions what she said to you know what she was talking to her parents about didn't make any sense what she talked to
01:00:20
the valet didn't make any sense at the restaurant didn't make any sense now if we go to there then stop her at the jail
01:00:29
and don't release her and have her evaluated and if they would have done that and put that simple hold then the
01:00:35
parents and the family have an opportunity to try to turn her life around and make it better I mean her
01:00:42
life wasn't going badly but whatever was going on in her life whether it was a drug thing or if it's a mental health
01:00:48
thing maybe they could have got her a little help if all they had to do was say hey you're going to sit here for a
01:00:53
while and we're going to have a doctor look at you and I think this country will step up and eventually at some
01:01:00
point they'll be like if there is any mental health concern you're going to wait maybe it's not 72 hours or 48 Hours
01:01:07
you know maybe it's just like we pay tax money for all this stuff we give all these benefits to prisoners for example
01:01:16
but what about the what about the citizens what about hey if somebody gets pulled over and we think they're drunk
01:01:24
they're acting a little weird we're going to rest them cuz we don't want them to hurt themselves we don't want
01:01:29
them to hurt somebody else but instead of having them being being caged for you know 12 hours 24 hours or
01:01:38
whatever 6 hours we're going to have somebody on call and within 6 hours of you being brought to the
01:01:46
station we're going to have a doctor come in and evaluate you and if you pass the evaluation then we'll let you go but
01:01:53
you know and that's for the safety of the citizens and we give all these rights to these criminals like what and
01:01:59
we give all these benefits and privileges to criminals when can we start doing that for the community right
01:02:06
I you know what I think happened here Captain I'm going to go with letis I think letis is right that's the mother
01:02:13
that's matri's mother I think I'm going to go with Mother's intuition I think the whole time from the very get-go from
01:02:21
the time this thing started until they found her remains her gut feeling was right every single time and you know
01:02:30
when when she was picked up what did she do she called the sheriff's department and asked are you going to let her go
01:02:36
because if you are I'll go and get her if you're if you're going to keep her then I'm going to get her in the morning
01:02:41
she had that she had that Mother's intuition from the beginning that they might let her go what ends up happening
01:02:46
they let her go she calls in and wants to call in a missing person's report 5 hours after myc's releas released from
01:02:54
the Sheriff's Office mhm they won't let her they don't let her file missing persons report she she felt in her gut
01:03:02
right then that her daughter was missing and within an hour she's by all purposes
01:03:07
missing when they started and she started saying right right after that first search was conducted and they
01:03:13
didn't find anything she started saying you know what my child had a mental break some kind of mental health issue
01:03:20
happened she snapped she was out wandering around in unfamiliar terit somebody saw her took advantage of the
01:03:26
situation picked her up they killed her and they dumped her somewhere in some remote location and when the sighting
01:03:33
started happening in Las Vegas even even with her ex-husband's sighting potential
01:03:38
sighting she was saying the entire time that's not my daughter I I just know it I know that she's she's not alive and
01:03:45
she's not with us anymore and she's out somewhere she's been placed somewhere and so I'm going to go with my theory is
01:03:51
that that she didn't end up there on her own I think think that somebody did take
01:03:55
advantage of a situation I do believe it was probably her in that backyard that was spotted early that morning I think
01:04:01
she wandered on before Sheriff could arrive I don't know if it was a sheriff that found her or if it was some evil
01:04:08
guy or an evil Sheriff that found her but I think that somebody picked her up took advantage of the situation and I
01:04:14
I'm going to go with Mother's tuition intuition there that I think Leti is right yeah I mean I think I think the
01:04:21
the two logical things more logical things there she either went on some manic rant and then she succumbed to the
01:04:29
elements or there was an accident and then the other is you know the whole thing about when people talk about like
01:04:35
with the maramari case the whole idea that she would be running down this road and this happen upon a killer well yeah
01:04:45
that's that's not super likely but how long was um my trees wandering around so the longer you wander around the more
01:04:55
there's opportunity and and not just do you run into a killer but do you run into a
01:05:02
rapist and that rapist then turns into a murder exctly right yeah so and I think
01:05:09
I mean it's just a super sad case and and and it's sad um now we should just say that you know there was lawsuits
01:05:17
against um the sheriff and and the family was awarded like $900,000 yeah the the the father and the mother who
01:05:25
were separated as we said filed uh separately they filed lawsuits against the sheriff's department uh they ended
01:05:32
up combining those lawsuits um and they each had had their own representation uh
01:05:38
and they did settle out of court for my understanding was $900,000 which they split 450 450 no that's not how they
01:05:46
split it because I guarantee you that lawyer that was bringing up this [ __ ] about Spears and Lohan and he
01:05:53
he the lawyer is going to get 33 to 40% well yeah you cut me off before I could finish that it it clearly says in the
01:06:00
settlement I read the settlement last night it says I believe in the first page or the second page that that after
01:06:07
the settlement is paid out everybody will pay their own lawyer fees from that amount they they are responsible for
01:06:14
their own uh counsil that they sought uh we should also mention that the body was
01:06:19
exhumed at the at the uh at the encouragement of the family um and was also determined basically even though
01:06:27
they examined the body a second time they pretty much came up with the same situation that cause of death is
01:06:32
undetermined yeah and I think unless they find um you know do another search or find more bones that that there's no
01:06:40
way to there it's not a complete picture for them to be able to come to any conclusion MH so anyways I hope you guys
01:06:49
enjoyed this episode and man it's been a long day uh we got a recommended reading
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recommended reading between December 1968 and October 1969 a hooded serial killer named zodiac terrorized San
01:07:02
Francisco claiming responsibility for 37 murders he manipulated the media with warnings dares and bizarre cryptograms
01:07:10
that baffled the FBI code Breakers uh check out this book I highly recommend this one this is a case that we've been
01:07:17
asked to cover quite a bit so I I thought I'd recommend a zodiac book and this I find to be the best one zodiac
01:07:23
unmasked by Robert graysmith if anybody's seen the movie The Zodiac most of that movie was based off of the
01:07:30
information found in this book but there's so much more information here uh and and I bought this one secondhand a
01:07:36
few years ago and I always find this funny when you buy them at a secondhand store with a big thick True Crime book
01:07:42
you will find that the center spine is all creased up and nothing else so somebody bought this true crime book I
01:07:47
see this all the time and all they do is they look at the pictures in the middle
01:07:51
because and then they then they sell it back to somebody uh but in within these pictures there are the zodiac letters
01:07:58
the famous cryptograms all those that you can see for yourself so pick up this book zodiac unmasked by Robert Grey
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