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>> Back to pass, big rush by the Wildcats, and Mercer is thrown for a loss
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back at the 45. Great defensive play by Kansas State's big tackle Darren Wilson.
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That makes it fourth and 17 for the Tigers. Johnson back to punt for Missouri. There's the snap.
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Johnson boots it, a long high spiral. Rose signals for a fair catch at the 21 yard line,
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and the Kansas State Wildcats take over. Still no score early in this-- >> No!
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>> It's the first quarter. >> No! >> You've seen ball games
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before. >> Okay, he's calling signals, fakes a hand-off, drops back, pass is complete to Tommy Rose.
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>> Yeah! Make-out, make-out. >> Shut up. >> Kansas State runs up
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in a power T formation. Second and two. >> [ groaning ] >> Oil's fine, sir.
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So's the water. That'll be 4 bucks. >> Keep the change, kid. >> Thank you, sir.
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You here to hunt? >> No. We're heading to Arizona. We got construction work
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waiting for us there. That reminds me. Do you know the mileage between here and Tumcumcari, New Mexico?
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>> Can't say I do. Well, excuse me, sir. I'm doing a job working on a truck over there.
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>> [ groaning ] >> Yeah? >> Want some candy? They got a machine out here.
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>> No. Oh! >> You okay? >> I'm fine. >> Don't be all night.
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Come on, baby. We don't wanna be late for the party, now, do we? What's the matter, Perry?
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You sick or something? A natural killer. That's what you are. You should see yourself.
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No ordinary punk like they all said. A natural killer, like I always knowed. >> Known.
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>> ♪ To be by your side ♪ ♪ Your best friend ♪ ♪ Wrote and told me ♪ ♪ Rat-a-tat ♪
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♪ You have teardrops ♪ ♪ In your eyes ♪ ♪ Daddy's home ♪ ♪ Daddy's home to stay ♪
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♪ Daddy's home to stay ♪ ♪ I'm not ♪ ♪ A thousand miles away ♪ >> So you better cozy up
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to that special Saturday night someone now before it's too late. >> Bobby came to the house
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this evening and we listened to the K State game. I love him. I do and I don't care
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what Daddy thinks. This is forever between me and Bobby. >> [ gasp ] >> Let's get out of here, Dick.
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Let's just turn this car around and get out of here before it's too late, huh?
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>> It's gonna be perfect, honey. [ baby cries ] >> Look. I thought you said
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there weren't any neighbors. >> Will you look at this spread? Don't tell me this guy
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ain't loaded. He's one of the richest farmers in Kansas is what he is. Mr. Herbert W. Cutter.
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>> I don't like it. >> It's the hired man's house, baby. It's on the diagram.
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Guy wouldn't never come snooping around the big boss's house in the middle of the damn
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night, and if'n he does... >> No, no. Count me out. Count--no, Dick. I don't want any.
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>> What's putting the bubbles in your blood, honey? Or have I been wrong about you?
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What'd you steal this big knife for if you wasn't ready to come here and do what we've come
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here to do? You just showing off? You think maybe I don't got the guts to do it alone, Perry?
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Is that what you're thinking? Well, I'll show you who's got the guts and who don't.
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>> I wish I'd had that drink. >> Quiet. That must be where the safe is.
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>> Hey, Dick, give me the knife. Hey, where's the other phone, Dick? >> It's in the kitchen.
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>> No safe, huh? >> It's here. It's here somewheres. I know it. It's gotta be.
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>> Quiet, man. Dick, Dick, Dick, Dick. Let's get outta here. There's no safe,
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there's no money. I don't like it. Come on, Dick. >> There's a safe in here
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and it's full of money and I'm gonna find it. And when I do, I knows who's
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gonna open the damn thing. >> Honey? Honey, is that you? >> Are you Mr. Clutter?
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>> Who are you? What do you want? >> We'd like to talk with you,
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sir. Could you step with us into your office, please? Have a seat. Now, Mr. Clutter, sir, all we
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want is for you to tell us where you keep that safe. Where is it? >> Safe? I have no safe.
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Whoever told you that is a-- >> You're lying, you rich son of a bitch!
00:16:12
Don't you lie to me! I know damn well you got a safe in here. >> Son, I'm sorry to disappoint
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you, but I don't have no safe. I've never had a safe. I don't need one.
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>> Look, mister, you tell me where that damn safe is or you're gonna be a whole lot
00:16:28
sorrier. >> As God is my witness, I am telling you the truth. I don't need a safe.
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Look, whoever told you boys that there were money here, if you're thinking you're gonna
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find some, I'm afraid you come to the wrong place. >> No, sir! We heard you was
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a rich man, Mr. Clutter, a generous man, successful man. We hear you keep a lot of cash
00:17:00
in that safe that you say you don't have. Now that's what we come here for.
00:17:04
>> Whoever told you that is a darn fool. I don't keep any cash in this house.
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I don't keep any extra cash in this house is the truth! >> Where's your wallet?
00:17:20
Where's your damn wallet? >> It's in my bedroom. >> Keep moving.
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>> Whatever money that I have here is yours. Here's my wallet. >> 12 bucks?
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You gotta have more than that. What's upstairs? >> Well, there's no one
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upstairs but my family. They don't have any money. >> Yeah? Well, you gotta have
00:17:50
more than this. Come on. >> Look, you tell me what you need and I'll give it to you.
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>> Let's go. Go! >> You boys wanna be on your way, I won't say a word
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to anybody, I promise you. >> What about your wife? >> You don't wanna bother
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my wife. She's an invalid. She's been sick for a very long time. >> Yeah? Well, let's go pay
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the little lady a visit. Maybe she's the rich one. >> I don't know why you boys
00:18:08
want to do this. I've never seen you before. >> Shut up! When we want you to talk,
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we'll tell you. >> It's all right, sweetheart. There's no need to be afraid.
00:18:18
There's no need to be afraid. These men, they just want some money, that's all.
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>> But, Herb, dear, I don't have any money. You know that. >> I know.
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Don't cry, sweetheart. Everything's gonna be all right. They're not gonna hurt us.
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I gave them all the money I had, but they want some more. They think there's a safe
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somewhere. >> I thought I told you to shut up, huh? >> My husband's telling
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the truth. There isn't any safe. >> I know damn well that you got a safe in here, all right?
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Now I ain't leaving until I find it. Where's your money, huh? Where's your money?
00:18:55
>> There's some over here. >> Well, get it. Get it. Gimme that! 3 bucks.
00:19:10
>> Dick. Dick. These people are telling the truth, man. Can't you tell?
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The only one who lied is your pal Floyd. >> They're gonna see that there isn't any money.
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They're gonna see that there isn't a safe, and when they see that there's nothing that we're
00:19:28
hiding, they'll go away. >> They'll go? >> Well, what about them
00:19:33
and the kids? >> In the bathroom. We'll put 'em in the bathroom right there.
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After that, we'll tie 'em up one by one and in different parts of the house,
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and we'll look for the safe and when we find it, we'll just, uh... we'll cut their throats.
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Can't shoot 'em. That'd make too much damn noise. >> Sit down.
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You comfortable? >> Get up. Get up. Get up, punk! What's the matter? You deaf, boy? Is that it?
00:21:20
>> Dick, you don't have to hit the kid. Now leave him alone. All right, kid. Sit down.
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Here you go. You better put some pants on, kid. >> What is this? Some kind of joke?
00:22:01
>> My, my. You must be Nancy. We need you to step in the bathroom. Get in. Go on.
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Go on. Go on! >> Now you stand guard. I'll do some reconnoitering. Ow.
00:24:02
Ow. >> Get down. >> Nancy, come with me. Hey, come on. >> You leave her alone, mister.
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You hear me? >> Nothing bad's gonna happen to your little girl, ma'am.
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As a matter of fact, I can assure you that she's gonna be very well taken care of, ma'am.
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I can certainly assure you of that. It's all right. >> Oh, Lord, give us strength.
00:27:19
Protect our family. Protect our Nancy. See us through this crisis. We ask in Your name.
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Amen. >> [ crying ] >> See you later, Dad. >> Bye, hon. [ doorbell rings ]
00:30:12
[ ding dong ] >> Maybe they're around back. >> Maybe they're still asleep.
00:30:27
>> That's not possible. Can you imagine Mr. Clutter being late for church
00:30:31
just for sleeping? >> Let's drive over to Kidwell's. Susie will know where
00:30:35
they went to. >> [ coughing ] >> Over to Martin in the frontcourt. Martin to Baxter.
00:30:44
Baxter breaks open at the free throw line, driving past. Baxter takes the jump shot.
00:30:47
Scores. Kansas State takes a one point lead in their home opener. >> [ snoring ]
00:30:52
>> Max Saulters with the ball for the Boilermakers. Saulters fakes left, drives, shoots, misses.
00:30:56
Rebound to Stanley Wright, K State's pick six sophomore center. Outside pass to Martin.
00:31:01
The team captain dribbles upcourt... >> Lord, I never thought I'd see the day when he'd fall
00:31:06
dead asleep and miss a game. >> Maxwell with the ball at the top of the key.
00:31:11
>> Shoots. No good. Rebound to Kansas State. Dryden bringing the ball up the floor for the Wildcats.
00:31:16
Pass ahead, Hawkins scores-- >> [ muttering ] >> Boy, this Wildcat team
00:31:28
is ranked number one in the country, and today they're showing why. Maxwell to Morris, swings it
00:31:34
over to English in the low post for Purdue. Fakes right, shoots... Blocked! Maxwell picks up
00:31:40
the loose ball, guarded closely by Dryden. [ ding dong ] >> Hello? Nancy? Hello?
00:32:15
Anybody here? Nancy? Are you awake? >> I guess they are still asleep. >> Anybody down there?
00:32:35
>> Well, I'm gonna look around outside. Y'all check upstairs. >> Hello?
00:32:51
Nancy, it's Kathy and Susan. Nancy? [ screams ] [ siren ] >> Stay here. You stay here.
00:33:50
>> Jesus. >> Earl? I want to let you know that Agent Dewey's here.
00:34:38
>> Al? Good to see you. >> Earl. >> This is Undersheriff Wendell Meyer.
00:34:43
>> Who's the sightseer? >> Alfred Stocklein. Works the place. >> Bess, there is something
00:35:03
radically wrong over at the Clutter place. >> You mean the ambulance? You saw the ambulance going up
00:35:09
there again? Oh, hell, Sadie, it's only Bonnie having one of those bad spells she gets.
00:35:14
You know that. >> I saw two ambulances and two police cars, a steady stream of officialdom,
00:35:22
Bess, and it was all headed straight to the Clutter farm. [ telephone rings ] >> Bess, for heaven's sakes,
00:36:51
who was that? >> Mabel over at the paper. Herb Clutter used to be rushing around like a chicken without
00:36:59
his head, trying to make everything run as good as that outfit of his. Won't be rushing around anymore.
00:37:07
>> What do you mean, he won't be rushing around anymore? >> Because he's dead!
00:37:12
>> Oh! >> So's Bonnie and Nancy and the boy. >> Kenyon? >> Somebody shot 'em.
00:37:20
>> Oh, Good Lord. Do they know-- >> Who? Who did it? Who the hell knows?
00:37:31
Somebody up that street, down that road, their neighbors, more than likely. Neighbors are varmints anyway.
00:37:39
Always trying to slam their door in your face. >> Oh, Bess Hartmann, I am truly ashamed to hear you talk
00:37:46
that way. I'm scared. >> Why? When your time comes, it comes. It's all the same in eternity.
00:37:59
Besides, we got nothing to worry about. Mabel said the Feds is on the case. It's Alvin Dewey from Garden
00:38:05
City and the big shot Bureau boys from Topeka riding to the rescue. >> Sheriff? Here it is, sir.
00:38:39
>> Bernie. >> All right, I'll talk facts, but not theories. Now the big fact here is we're
00:38:51
not dealing with one murder, but four. We don't know which of the four was the primary victim.
00:38:57
>> Wasn't the father the only one with his throat cut? >> He was the most abused, yes,
00:39:01
but it doesn't necessarily follow that Herb Clutter was the main target. >> Who was killed first?
00:39:06
>> It would help if we knew in which order the family died, but the coroner can't tell us
00:39:10
that. >> How many killers? >> Don't know yet. >> Was the women molested?
00:39:14
Was there any signs of sexual assault? >> No, ma'am, they were not. >> Any fingerprints?
00:39:19
>> I can't answer that. >> Can't or won't? >> Both.
00:39:23
>> What about shell casings? How many cartridges? >> Now, look, I'll be honest
00:39:26
with you, we don't have a lot to go on here. No obvious suspect, not much in the way of clues.
00:39:31
There's no evident motive 'cause of all the people in the world, the Clutters were the
00:39:35
least likely to be murdered. Now, I think KBI has assembled a strong team here headed by
00:39:42
three of our ablest investigators, Special Agents Harold Nye on loan from Philadelphia, Roy Church
00:39:50
and Carl Duntz from our Topeka office. I'd like to make a personal statement at this time,
00:39:59
if I may. And then if it's okay, we'll get back to work. This is something of a personal
00:40:09
proposition for me. My wife and I were real fond of Herb and Bonnie. We saw 'em at church.
00:40:15
We visited with them back and forth. But even if I hadn't known 'em and liked the family so well,
00:40:22
I would not feel any different because I've seen some bad things, I sure as hell have,
00:40:29
but nothing so vicious and brutal as this. However long it takes, maybe the rest of my life,
00:40:37
I'm gonna know what happened in that house. >> If you ain't gonna eat
00:40:48
that burger, I'll take it. >> All right, go ahead, but shut up. I'm reading.
00:40:56
>> You don't have to read it 50 times. >> It says here, "This killer or killers."
00:41:01
That's bad English. It should say "This killer or these killers." But, anyway, I don't believe it,
00:41:11
this no-clue stuff. >> I told you, if them prairie bellies would have made
00:41:19
the slightest connection, we would have heard 'em 100 miles off by now. >> You know Willy J
00:41:23
back at the walls, huh? He told me I was a natural born medium. He knew about stuff like this
00:41:28
and he was interested. He said I had a high degree of extrasensory perception. Take for example right before
00:41:35
my motorcycle accident, I saw the whole thing happen in my mind. I saw the rain, I saw the skid
00:41:43
marks, I saw me lying there all bloody and my legs all broken. Anyway, it was a premonition.
00:41:48
Well, that's what I got now. Something tells me that this is a trap. >> [ laughs ]
00:41:57
>> What? >> Your problem is all you ever do is eat aspirins and drink root beer.
00:42:04
Get them bubbles out of your blood, honey. We scored. It was perfect. >> Perfect.
00:42:17
>> Okay, I had some wrong information. >> Hallelujah. >> Except for that, we hit
00:42:26
the ball right out of the park, baby, and it's lost. And it's gonna stay lost
00:42:31
on account of there ain't one single connection. >> One? I can think of one.
00:42:41
>> Floyd Wells? That who you mean? Floyd Wells? Hell, it might be worth it
00:42:49
if'n I get nabbed on a check-bouncing charge just to get back in there. [ laughs ]
00:42:58
Right through the heart, honey. [ both laugh ] >> God offers us courage, love and hope,
00:43:08
even though we walk through the valley of the shadow of death. Herb, Bonnie, Nancy and Kenyon
00:43:17
Clutter, in life and in death, walked in fellowship with Jesus. And in fellowship with Jesus,
00:43:25
we mourn with the surviving members of the Clutter family, beloved Evana and Beverly
00:43:32
and their families. And I know many of you here today are asking why. Why, oh, Lord, did you allow
00:43:41
Herb and Bonnie and dear Nancy and Kenyon, such honest loving people, to be taken
00:43:49
from our midst? Jesus says you believe in God... >> You seen Alfred Stocklein?
00:43:56
>> In my Father's house are many mansions. If it were not so, I would have told you.
00:44:02
I go to prepare a place for you. Let us pray. Our father, Who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name,
00:44:15
thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily
00:44:26
bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
00:44:35
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, for thine is the kingdom
00:44:45
and the power and the glory forever. Amen. >> We're going to Mexico, baby,
00:45:25
and I got me a list of places we're gonna hit. All you gotta do is just stand
00:45:31
there and don't laugh. And don't act like you're surprised at nothing, okay?
00:46:02
I know what you're thinking. What an unlikely pair of friends. Well, you're right, but that's
00:46:07
what we are, friends. We've been friends since we was boys. You may not believe this.
00:46:11
I can't hardly believe it myself. He's getting married next week. As his best man, I'm helping
00:46:20
him shop around for what he'll need. We don't want him going to the altar looking like that,
00:46:24
now, do we? [ laughs ] What he requires, and I'm gonna give it to him as a wedding
00:46:30
present, is what you might call his trousseau. >> Well, I'm sure I can help you.
00:46:39
>> Well, that'll be fine. That'll be fine, just fine. >> Well, let's have a look.
00:46:50
>> You know the Eden Roc in Miami Beach? >> Oh, sure do. >> That's where they got
00:46:57
reservations. >> Well! >> Yeah, it's a gift from her folks. Two weeks at 40 bucks a day.
00:47:03
How about that? Ugly runt like that making it with a honey. >> [ laughs ] >> And you should see her.
00:47:10
Not only is she built, but she's loaded, too. [ laughs ] Yeah. Okay, okay. Go change.
00:47:33
Cigarette? >> No, thanks. I don't smoke in the shop. >> Got a light?
00:47:39
>> Sure. Here you go. >> Oh, that's a nice lighter. Can I see it?
00:47:47
>> Yes, of course. >> Yeah, that's pretty. Oh, look at this. No, I don't like that at all.
00:47:59
>> You don't? >> No, I don't like that. >> You can get married
00:48:06
in something like that. >> I don't think it'll stay on very long, if you know
00:48:09
what I mean. Damn it! Excuse me. I forgot my cash. Sorry, boy. Looks like we're
00:48:22
gonna have to return all this unless...no, forget it. Thank you for your time, sir.
00:48:27
I'm so terribly sorry. I don't suppose you'd take a check. No, of course not.
00:48:39
You don't even know me. Terribly sorry for your trouble, sir. >> No, no. It's no trouble.
00:48:46
Do you have any identification, Mister... >> Hickock, Richard Hickock. Just like Wild Bill,
00:48:54
my distant cousin. Be okay if I round out to 200? >> Yeah, that'd be just fine,
00:49:09
Mr. Hickock. >> [ laughs ] I mean it, man. You are amazing. It got to where I believed
00:49:16
every word you were saying. >> Yeah, well, we'll get us enough radios and cameras
00:49:21
and TVs. It's the best investment a man can make, honey. Easy to hock anyway.
00:49:27
>> And then there's Mexico. Cozumel, here we come! Yeah! >> This is your place here,
00:49:36
Mr. Stocklein, right? >> That's right, sir. >> See, I'm not from around
00:49:39
here, so perhaps I'm missing something. But it's a little hard for me to believe, with your place
00:49:44
here, you didn't hear a car driving here or four blasts from a shotgun here?
00:49:49
I don't know. You wanna explain that to me? >> You're not the only one
00:49:52
who's suspicious of us, sir. The missus and me, we didn't get two hours sleep that night
00:49:58
'cause of the baby. Alls we heard about quarter to eleven, I heard a car drive
00:50:06
away and I made the remark to the missus "There goes Bob Rupp." >> Alfred, why do you think
00:50:13
you heard only Bob Ruff's car and nothing else? >> I truly don't know, sir.
00:50:19
>> Mr. Stocklein, do you wanna tell me why you burned all the furniture and the bedclothes
00:50:23
from the crime scene? >> That's my job, mister. Everything Mr. Clutter gave me,
00:50:29
I earned. I ain't gonna up and leave without first putting his house right the way he'd want me to.
00:50:36
>> What do you mean, leave? >> We've slept our last night in that place.
00:50:40
We're moving to a house along the highway. >> Oh, so you'll still be here
00:50:44
and you won't be afraid to take a lie detector test? >> Alfred, see, we're thinking
00:50:53
about giving polygraphs to everybody with anything at all to contribute. Now, it's for investigative
00:50:58
purposes only and, of course, it's you're right to decline if you so wish.
00:51:03
>> No, sir. I'm ready. Whenever you wanna schedule that deal, Mr. Dewey,
00:51:08
I'm here to help. >> Well, I'm much obliged. >> [ speaking Spanish ]
00:51:46
>> [ speaking Spanish ] >> We're salesmen. >> [ speaking Spanish ]
00:51:51
Okay. >> Shoot. The hell with premonitions. We're in Mexico, baby. Cozumel, where the senoritas
00:52:11
go for 50 bucks a month. [ laughs ] [ singing in Spanish ] >> Nancy loved Bobby
00:52:21
very, very much, that's all. >> And she wasn't really upset on the phone?
00:52:26
>> Not really upset. Did my mom say that? >> Well, I sure don't wanna get
00:52:32
crossways with you and your mama, but she did kind of get the impression from you that
00:52:36
there was trouble brewing between Herb Clutter and Bobby Rupp. >> Trouble brewing?
00:52:41
That is just an overstated way of talking about the problem. >> What was the problem, Susan?
00:52:46
>> Well, Mr. Clutter was very opposed to them continuing to get more serious
00:52:49
with each other. >> Did Bobby know about Mr. Clutter's feelings? >> Oh, sure. Everyone did.
00:52:54
>> Everyone? >> Sure. >> How? >> Nancy. She told everyone
00:53:01
how her father said because the Rupps was Catholic, they could never get married, so they
00:53:04
should break it off now and save all the pain later. >> Excuse me, Miss Ewalt.
00:53:10
I'm not from around here. >> I know. >> Well, so could you explain
00:53:14
to me why Bobby Rupp being Catholic would mean that he and Nancy Clutter couldn't get
00:53:18
married? >> The Clutters are Methodist. >> I see. >> Bob Rupp?
00:53:45
>> That's me. >> I'm Carl Duntz, KBI. Do I have to show you my badge
00:53:51
like they do on TV? >> I don't care what you do, sir. >> That why you haven't
00:53:56
returned any of my calls? >> Maybe. >> Hi. I'm Carl Duntz, Special
00:54:20
Agent with the Kansas Bureau of Investigation. There's my badge. >> I sure wanna thank you for
00:54:26
coming in to talk to us today, and I want you to know how sorry we all are for your loss.
00:54:33
>> Thank you, sir. >> Of course, this is a great loss for all of us around here.
00:54:38
Much as we might not like it, we have to do our jobs. So I'm gonna ask you to do us
00:54:44
a big favor, Bobby, and agree to take a polygraph examination. >> Am I a suspect?
00:54:54
>> I have to rule out all the possibilities. >> Do you think I did it?
00:54:58
>> No, son, but you were the last person we know of who saw them alive. >> You think I don't know that?
00:55:05
I told the sheriff everything I know about that night. I'm just trying to forget it.
00:55:13
>> It's all right, Bobby. We know. >> I loved Nancy Clutter more
00:55:17
than anyone in this whole world, sir. And whoever has the idea that I could have done anything like
00:55:22
what was done to her and her family, well, that person is just sick, sir. So I will be here next Tuesday
00:55:30
to take your damn test and we can get all this crap over with. >> The kid's no killer.
00:55:48
[ singing in Spanish ] >> You know what I think? I think there's something wrong
00:55:56
with us to do what we did. >> Did what? >> Gotta be something wrong with somebody to do a thing
00:56:01
like that. >> You can count me out of that crap, baby. I'm normal. You was lying, wasn't you?
00:56:11
About that nigger in Vegas? >> I killed him. You know what bugs me about the other thing?
00:56:28
I just can't believe that somebody can get away with that, that somebody can do
00:56:33
what we did and just 100% get away with it. >> Just shut up about it, Perry, huh?
00:56:39
Just shut up. >> You don't gotta yell at me, Dick. >> Well, I didn't believe it
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when I heard the news on the radio. I couldn't afford to. Lord, I had Herb Clutter's
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check right here in my pocket and the policy, a piece of paper worth tens of thousands
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of dollars if what they were saying were true. But I thought, you know, things like that don't happen.
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You don't sell a man a big policy one minute and he's dead the next, murdered,
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being a double indemnity. >> Surviving daughters? >> Yes, sir. 80 thou each.
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>> You arrested anybody yet? >> No, sir, not yet. >> Well, why don't you boys
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arrest somebody and quit bothering my daughter? >> All right, y'all, you gonna
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eat that pie or flap your lip? >> Hell, Bess, ain't that what we're paying 'em for?
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To catch 'em? >> No. We're paying to find out the truth about what went on
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out there, not throw people in jail to keep idiots like you happy. And I'll tell you
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something else. From what I seen of these KBI boys, they're over there in the
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office before I open up in the morning and most nights they're still there when I go home.
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So I would say we are getting our money's worth out of 'em. >> And you make a darn good
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cup of coffee, Bess Hartmann. >> You bet your butt I do. >> Officers investigating
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the tragic slaying of four members of the Herbert W. Clutter family have appealed to
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the public for any information which might aid in solving this baffling crime. Clutter, his wife and their two
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teenage children were found murdered in their farm near Holcomb.