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[Music] it just sounds like something bad is happening to her I heard her scream no
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stop it I heard some gunshots that does not prove that I killed my wife we know what happened because the
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video tells us what happened the camera doesn't lie this time on Killers caught on camera
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in California a young boy goes missing while in the custody of his father and her interaction is really sad because
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this is the last time she's going to see him and in the UK he's when you stopped it
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Garden security camera captures the moment before a brutal murder we can see an individual crutching down it's got
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linear form could be a weapon one of the neighbors heard screaming coming from next door a man shouting die die
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[Music] foreign [Applause] California home to aramas andressian Junior a five-year-old boy known affectionately
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as peaky his father is RMS andressian senior his mother Anna Estevez Anna had wanted a child all along she
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had gone through medical procedures to try and conceive and piki was her pride and joy
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foreign to her he was her only child [Music] she had a difficult time with pregnancies and this was her baby
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Anna speaks about his love for cooking baking in particular he was such a happy child had a great childhood love to
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learn and if you know Anna you know that Anna was a principal at an elementary school
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so education is a big part of her life and she wanted to instill that in picky as well
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eight years of marriage things turned sour and Anna filed for divorce Louis Aguilera is a homicide detective
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for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department we learned that the divorce proceedings
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were quite contentious that both parties were making allegations against each other
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and it was a smear campaign basically on both sides peaky's parents Anna and aramaz became
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embroiled in a bitter custody battle Anna was concerned about how RMS senior treated piki she claimed he was
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aggressive and yelled in their son's face despite these allegations the court
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ordered joint custody and granted each parent seven consecutive days with their child on the condition that they handed
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piki over on neutral turf so the initial order for visitation allowed peaky's father to take him for
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an entire week and so Anna dropped off peaky at the police station made sure that his father took custody of him
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RMS senior was planning to take piki to Disneyland so this video was given to us by Anna
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and this was taken from her cell phone that she mounted on her dashboard to document the custody Exchange
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Anna was so concerned about piki's Father's behavior that she decided to
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record all of their exchanges on camera what's unusual to us is you see when
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she's hugging peaky and saying her goodbyes to him ARA's pacing in the background
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seems fidgety and nervous and just weird the way he's acting and you see the affection they have for
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each other and then look at him in the background at this point peaky's whispering in her
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ear and talking to her he gives her a kiss you'll see him caress her hair he
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whispered to her I don't want to go with him I want to stay with you Kiki's body language with his father is
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in complete contrast his body and legs arching away seven days later on Saturday the 22nd of
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April 2017. aramas senior and piki failed to turn up at the pre-arranged drop-off point in San Marino
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Anna is in San Marino waiting for ARA to return peaky she finally contacts San Marino police department at 10 A.M and
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says hey my son was supposed to be here a couple of hours ago and my ex-husband is an
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answer in his phone he's not returning text messages he's a couple hours late and he's
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violating the order here's his license plate they research it on their computer and they see that
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his car had been towed by South Pasadena Police earlier that morning Craig hum is head of the major crimes
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division in the LA County District Attorney's office well the peaky Anderson case first came
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to my desk a couple of days after piggy disappeared so we were involved pretty much from the beginning peaky's
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dad aramas senior had been found on the morning of Saturday the 22nd of April he was lying on the ground
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unconscious in Arroyo Seco Park his father was found in a disheveled condition he claimed he didn't know what
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happened to piki the jogger happened to see him at 6 30 in the morning and she called the police
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so when South Pasadena police officers arrived that morning they found him passed out
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you see ARA's car Aura was about 30 feet behind the car on a horse trail so they transport them
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to the hospital not thinking anything of a missing child they talked to them further in the
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hospital and he does say that I think I was assaulted I'm going through a divorce
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and I think my ex-wife might have had something to do with it that's all he says he makes no mention
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of his child at all so South Pasadena Police just tow his car they leave him at the hospital not
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thinking anything of it Kiki's father claimed that he didn't know what had happened to peaky and so
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the police treated it as perhaps some kind of abduction or that perhaps peaky had just wandered away when his father
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was unconscious and so initially they treated it as potentially a missing person's case
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when you have a missing person case the first thing you want to do is contact the relatives of that missing person to
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get the Dynamics of the family relationship so we did a background investigation on the father right away
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he had never been arrested he had a bachelor's degree from one of the local universities
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he had never even been cited for a moving violation or a park in violation so he had a clear record reading into
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his background it didn't lead me to any clues didn't make me think any different
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other than his child's missing children cases are resolved very quickly and children also when they go missing
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usually run away from home and either they come back or they're found it's
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usually an innocent situation that people get very worried about very quickly understandably and the police
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take very seriously but of course in this case there was this other factor which was the father and the lack of
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trust in the father and worry about what he might do with the child foreign based on the fact that he had custody of
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his child he didn't know the whereabouts of his child South Pasadena arrested him for
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child endangerment he was deemed to be under the influence of drugs opioids and they arrested him for that as well
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after his arrest police questioned piki's father our main goal more than anything in here
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is to find yourself and if you can give us any information to help us find him that's what we're
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trying to do he's stuck to the story I think I was assaulted I'm having this horrible
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divorce with my ex-wife she might have had something to do with it I wanted to find from the beginning I was wanted
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always so you know it's been tough you know because you know I all I just want is what is in the best
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interest of our 50 50. and that's why and and it's like more and more it's just a continuous
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battle he continued to tell that story all morning but RMS still couldn't tell the police
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where piki was no one knows what you're selling something did you give him to somebody
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else RMS seniors physical appearance also raised suspicion I noticed on his hands he had abrasions
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on the palms of his hands [Music] no any you don't remember you don't remember digging around
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outside and it's not dirt you don't remember did you have car problems or anything I
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I did not is that grease or you don't know it's not Greece I mean if I I would
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love it if you guys take a sample so you don't remember no [Music] we had his hands photographed as well
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and in the bedding of his fingernails they were covered with dirt and the photos were quite significant because of
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the abrasions that he had on the palms of his hands and some blistering as well the contents of aramaza's recovered car
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began to paint a worrying picture there was a sonogram of piki that was propped up on the dashboard there was
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also a full gas can and the car had been doused in gasoline on the inside and a rag was stuck in the gas cap
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it looked like it was an apparent attempt to light the car on fire the LED lantern that stood out to me
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that was still lit there's the sippy cup that we took as evidence and the jacket that had vomit
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on it as well the police questioned aramas again to establish a timeline of events
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from the moment he picked up piki to seven days later when he was found lying in Arroyo Seco Park
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we wanted to get a statement from him and lock him into a story okay what did you do this past Thursday
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we went to Disneyland I sent investigators out to follow up on that timeline but before we did that we made
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the decision to release him from custody we didn't feel like a child endangerment
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case was strong and he was more viable to us to be out of custody and maybe help us
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with this investigation and locating this child plus we wanted to keep eyes on them
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the police tracked aramas's every move and started to compare his testimony with the recordings
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cameras in and video evidence were critical in this case they set a timeline for us
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the first video was from Anna's dash cam on Saturday the 15th of April 2017.
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five days later aramaus was captured on his own home surveillance camera served a search warrant at ARA's house
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and we located video from the house of him leaving on Thursday afternoon prior to going to Disneyland
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we saw that he walked out of his house to his car with the large Blue duffel bag
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and he also had a large gas container in his hand neither one of those items have ever
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been recovered to this day we conducted DNA tests of the bathrooms and didn't locate any evidence of any
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crime in the house but we did take a hard drive we discovered that the week he had his son he created a will online
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and in that will he left everything to his mother and he left everything to his sister including a hundred thousand
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dollars in cash he left nothing to his son which told us a lot the next time peaky and his father were
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filmed was at Disneyland taken from the entrance at Disneyland and you can see ARA picky up and carry
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him through the turnstiles and we found a video from Disneyland that we were able to locate
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he was seen leaving Disneyland at about 1am ARA our next scene at an Arco Am Pm gas
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station in Monterey Park and that's about two o'clock in the morning on Friday
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six hours later aramaz appeared on a camera over 120 miles away at Lake kachuma an artificial Reservoir in Santa
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Barbara County there's a booth at the entrance where people pay to get into the parking lot
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that was extremely useful because from that video we could tell that peaky wasn't in the car
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there's a child seat in the back of the car and that would be where piki would
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normally be seated and the car seat was empty the fact that peaky couldn't be seen in
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the car told us that something had happened to peaky between the time that he had left Disneyland with his father
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and the time that biki's father arrived at Lake kachuma Lake Cachuma puma and made several
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visits to the local store which were caught on camera so in this first still photo you see Aura arriving into
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the convenience store you buy some items and which was a concern to us was that there was no peaky
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you see him leaving with no peeking and then he enters the store a second time buys more miscellaneous items
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and there's no peaky again police checked every piece of video footage against aramaz's testimony what
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they found was strong enough to Warrant a search teams on Horseback with tracking dogs combed 30 square miles
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around Lake Cachuma helicopters examined the area from above divers went into the water but there was
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no trace of peaky meanwhile 400 miles away in Las Vegas aramas senior was becoming a cause for concern his father
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refused to cooperate with the police any further refused to talk with them refused to tell them anything at all so
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the police put Piggy's father under a physical surveillance and they also worked with us to obtain a wiretap so
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that we could monitor any phone calls that piki's father was making to see if
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we could get any information from that from the physical surveillance of Piggy's father from the phone calls it
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was clear that he had no interest in looking for his son there was no even attempt to appear concerned about his
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his son's well-being and that was in direct contrast with piki's Mother Anna
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who was still frantically trying to find her son still going to the media asking
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for anybody's help in in finding her son over the couple months that peaky was
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missing Aura not at one point called us asked us how our investigation was going
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on he never took part in the searches for peaky he never questioned anything never spoke
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with Anna Bridge obtained during the investigation showed arama's acting erratically
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ARA was in Las Vegas going from casino to casino hotel to hotel having a good time he was using a lot of Narcotics
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he was meeting women in hotels he was skydiving welcome to skydive Las Vegas how you
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doing awesome awesome obviously you're feeling extra stupid today so I have to throw you out of a plate
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because of that prior to him jumping out of the plane [Music] he mentions I love you buddy
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I love you buddy that's what he referred to peakyas let's do it and he jumps out of the plane
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so he's off having a good time not a care in the world his behavior just became more and more
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inconsistent with that of a grieving father and it almost seemed like this was kind of his last hurray because he
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knew that at some point in time this was all going to catch up with him foreign going to Vegas and gambling and
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skydiving and engaging in just a series of high-risk behaviors is not a normal reaction to your child going missing it
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is however a normal reaction to having Nothing Left to Lose before and as time went on aramaza's Behavior
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became even more bizarre ARA is now changing his appearance and he's starting to mention to friends
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that he might leave the country and he's starting to research countries that
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don't extradite and that became a concern to us because now we're thinking
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he's going to flee and we'll never see him again police couldn't risk aramas slipping
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their net he was arrested on a no body murder charge and taken back to LA County
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detectives couldn't have predicted what happened next [Music] door struggle and
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[Music] I guess I'm struggling and she would touch your brain what she said and then he said he
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took his son down the hillside and that's why you haven't where he slipped and fell
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that's why you have his nails covered in dirt and he said he sat his son along the
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side of tree didn't bury him [Music] so to him it was more Honorable in his head
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that he didn't bury his son and he Place him up against a tree the fact that he gave so much detail
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about what he did during the commission of this crime to me just shows that it was almost certainly what sometimes
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called like a flash ball memory so he probably has thought repeatedly about this incident it's basically traumatized
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him whether he was doing this out of catharsis so to feel better or to make sure that the police have the whole
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story this was a highly stressful highly emotional event that was strongly preserved in his memory and he is now
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getting it out of his mind on the 30th of June 2017 71 days after piki was reported missing
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police officers finally found peaky's body based on the description that piki's
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father gave to the police they were able to find the location and they were able
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to locate piku's body which was not that far off of the parking lot area propped
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against a tree just like his father had said and piki's body was dressed in the
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pajamas that his father had described at the time that he confessed what we wanted to do was bring that
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child some dignity that his father didn't and we placed him in a helicopter with one of our detectives and flew him
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back to LA with that Detective RMS andressian senior was charged with first degree murder
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initially he maintained his innocence but he changed his mind and decided to plead guilty in court on the 1st of
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August 2017. at this time [Music] for the rest of your life just explain to you sir
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he pled guilty because he didn't want to go through Court proceedings that were going to show what a bad
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person he was he made it seem as though he pled guilty to help Anna to help the rest of the
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family but in his narcissistic way he knew everything he had done after murdering that child including all
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his Vegas trips and the partying and the drugs and the women were going to come out in court
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and he didn't want any part of that are you feeling that the freely and voluntarily and because that is what you
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want to do listen Okay quite exceptionally I find you guilty based on your plea detectives believe aramaza's motive was
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to hurt his ex-wife murdering their child as an ultimate Act of Revenge taking piki to Dunn is a really
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interesting facet of this case because it goes against the idea that he's dehumanizing his child because it sounds
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like he might be trying to give his child the best last days of his life in which case he's entirely seeing him as a
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child he actually is and yet he's then making the decision to then end his life so there's this
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Discord going on between wanting the child to be happy and live a fulfilled life but then also taking that life away
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entirely in some way Disneyland is like a Vegas for children and it's having
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that Reckless fun Euphoria before death that maybe he was trying to offer his son
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that he perhaps was also trying to do to himself oh [Music] I think he did it because he wanted to
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hurt Anna and he knew the only way to hurt Anna was to take away the most important
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thing in her life and that was peaky this is the last time she's going to see
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him it's the last time she's going to be able to touch him peaky meant the world to her
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and he still does and he knew this and that was the ultimate pain he could cause was killing their child
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despite the successful prosecution there are still many unanswered questions around aramaz's Behavior
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did he mean to set that car on fire using that rag that was sticking out of the gas cap as an ignition point
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since the entire car was doused in gasoline did he want to commit suicide without the cameras aramas may never
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have been held accountable for piki's murder cameras are one of the most important
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things to a homicide detective that exists they set a timeline for when the last time that peaky was seen alive
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which was the video from when he left Disneyland at about one o'clock in the
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morning later on that morning at around eight or nine o'clock in the morning PK
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was no longer with his father in the car so it gave us a window of when piki was
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killed it also gave us an indication of where the crime actually occurred foreign
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was comprehensively caught on camera he was given a sentence of 25 years to life in prison
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it really sticks with you on the death of children and then the fact that a child is murdered by their parent is
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just something that never goes away and it it never ceases to amaze me what what
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people will do to their own children I've had over 350 homicide cases and this is the only funeral I've ever
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attended it was uh really somber I'll never forget it surveillance cameras were crucial in
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solving the piki andressian case all around the world CCTV has become almost omnipresent
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home surveillance and doorbell cameras in particular have become a global billion dollar industry
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the UK the covet pandemic and the increase in home deliveries created a huge demand for doorbell cameras
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the doorbell cameras for home security for that specific address for a property owner to be able to see who was
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approaching their frontal rear of their property you could see if somebody was delivering
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Parcels for example evidence for the police in the murder of Stephen and Jennifer
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Chapel the investigation team will actively seek if there are any doorbell cameras
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within the area that may have you know captured the incidents itself or the offenders movements
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in the southwest of England in the county of Somerset lies the small village of Norton fitzwarren home to
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just over 3 000 people including married couple Stephen and Jennifer Chapel Jennifer and Steven lived in a small
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housing estate where everyone knew each other Jennifer Chapel worked in the local Garden Center Cafe and her husband
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Stephen was a teacher they were very much in love and they had two young children and they were friendly
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approachable people that were they were liked by almost everyone Stephen and Jennifer lived next door to
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Colin and Kaylee Reeves the Raves family and the Chapels were friends I during lockdown they texted
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each other checking in on each other making sure everyone was okay I believe that Mrs chapel and Mrs Reeves shared
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the school van because they had children of a similar age and then it all sort of
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changed tensions escalated between the two families over the parking spaces directly outside their homes
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this minor annoyance was growing into a daily obsession Mrs Chapel had bought a second car and
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she used to park it on the road at the bottom of the Reeves's parking space and
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this didn't exactly obstruct at the Raves as parking space but it made it more difficult for Colin Reeves to
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reverse in and out of his space Colin Reeves confronted Jennifer the exchange was captured on her doorbell
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camera here Emmy Polito is a forensic video analyst and an expert witness in criminal cases
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in the UK the sound in this clip is particularly important the actual camera has got a microphone
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as well that will switch on and off depending on how loud the conversation is spotlight
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okay when a Colin is close to the camera we can clearly hear what he's saying to
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Jennifer this vehicle we're seeing here belongs to Jennifer this is the vehicle
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that is that is causing upset to him [Music] well but the situation intensified Steven chapwell Jennifer's husband was
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maneuvering out of his parking space and he accidentally bumped Colin Reeves's
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car so that kind of changed the relationship a bit after that they weren't quite as friendly
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the relationship deteriorated further over arguments about the Chapel's cat and other Petty disagreements
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there was then quite a tense exchange of swear words between Colin Reeves and Mrs
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Chapel he's the one who started we can identify Jennifer here and we know from recognizing the voice and from
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previous recordings that that's Colin for the police this is essential because
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it kind of proves that the relationship between them is deteriorating rapidly and is therefore at this point where
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potentially something violent and Sinister could start working in Collins head we can all relate to being in a dispute
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with a neighbor because whether it's noise or someone parking in your spot or
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the person next door gardening too often these are invasions of your sense of space and your sense of Sanity sometimes
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and I think that compounding of even trivial tiny things over and over and over and over again is like pushing into
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a wound and at some point it can feel like the only way to deal with it is to take dramatic action
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the tensions extended beyond the front door Colin Raves had gone to the garden center with Mrs Chapel worked and she
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said that he was serenade apparently he went there twice Jennifer Chapel definitely felt
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intimidated by his presence and definitely felt like he had gone there to scare her or to make her feel uneasy
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Colin Reeves was an Army veteran it was part of the royal engineers and in 2008 then he went to Afghanistan
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where he was stationed at Camp Bastion in his role with the Royal engineers and also on the prisoner of war of camp
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when Colin returned from Duty his experience of War had an impact on him it affected his work and his
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relationship he was a different Colin he had completely changed he was withdrawn
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relations between Colin and Kelly started to break down Colin Reeves did turned a drink and when he was drunk he
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was abusive to his wife clearly Collins experiences in the Army had also led him to develop a fear of camera
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surveillance which affected his civilian job as a truck driver he felt like he was always on camera
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because there were cameras watching him in the Lorry and he became more and more
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depressed and withdrawn on the 21st of November 2020 Colin went to Taunton with his mother and children
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to see the Christmas lights being switched on I live with areas surrounded by crides
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and his mum said that she could see he felt very uneasy being in such a crowded place after lockdown he also saw the War
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Memorial in Taunton and Colin Reeves said that this reminded him of Remembrance Day which was always a
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difficult time for him when Colin got home he put the kids to bed it had already been a tough day then
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his wife Kaylee asked for a trial separation following math then Colin went and sat
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on the stairs and he said he cried just 40 minutes later a man was captured on Stephen and Jennifer Chapel's Garden
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camera we can see an individual crutching down the suspect was trying absolutely
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everything not to be detected by the Light because the footage is an infrared and
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because of the angle of you we can't identify this person at this stage but what we can see
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it's some black tonalities on the right forearm which might indicate a tattoo
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but it's got a linear form which is extending from the hand potentially could be a weapon
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this tiny detail uncovered in the footage was about to become hugely significant
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one of the Chapel's neighbors watching TV with his partner when he heard screaming coming from next door and he
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heard a man shouting die die we can see the cat running away from the scene could indicate that there's something
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inside the property that the cat is obviously scared about a similar figure leaves the house with
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completely different body language the suspect is not crouching or sneaking anymore potentially this could indicate
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that he has got no more people to worry about hearing him or seeing him moments later a 999 call is made
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to the police what's the location of your emergency husband and the mother oh okay and you're safe at the moment
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yes right have you got any injuries whereabouts have you been stabbed no not me the neighbors the neighbors
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been stabbed by who hi mate by you yes right okay what's your name Colin Reeves all right call
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them tell me exactly what's happened take a deep breath we have a first admission of guilds from
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the caller the emergency calls are very important pieces of evidence the operator is not
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only providing a support and help but is also Gathering uh information about what
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has happened which is being recorded I went out yeah with a knife okay um I've stabbed both of them all right how
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many times I don't know a couple times each not two or three times each maybe
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are they still conscious and breathing I don't think so no okay pollen signed a
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pretty weapon for a man who just stabbed his neighbors he was able to answer all
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the questions asked of him by the call Handler all right what kind of knife did you use
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favorite soccer okay the famous voice that we heard in the background is the caller's wife
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all right Colin just down the line to meet you okay we're gonna get some help
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out there so you stabbed them both several times yes you've done the right thing by
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calling us okay next door at the Chapel's house the neighbors were first on the scene
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after they'd heard the screaming from Mr Mrs Chapel's house they went into the
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Chapel's house where they find them lying on the floor in a pool of blood they checked the Chapels for a pulse and
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could find none Steven and Jennifer's two young children were asleep upstairs the police arrived
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ready to arrest Colin at first Colin raises Father Brian came out of the house and they thought that
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he was Colin Reeves the man that they were supposed to be arresting put your hands up right him yeah go in
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put your arms up listen you're under arrest at the minute and the attempted murder of two people
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inside the address next door do you understand so you can see bloody One camera on this
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officer he gives us a visual of the defendant we can see his tattoos the same clothing let's walk over here a
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minute can't we Colin had already confessed to the double murder but in the police
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interview it was as if he was still in the Army on active duty still my job confused to I am here
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I was in an operation in another police interview Colin refused to answer questions
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how were you involved in their deaths in court Colin pled guilty to manslaughter on the grounds of
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diminished responsibility his defense argued that the security light in the garden triggered his
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post-traumatic stress disorder which led him to kill Stephen and Jennifer Chapel
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we can clearly see ill intention possibly a weapon being held we can kind of discern that was already there to
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commit a crime or to cause some serious hurt things like lights including white lights can trigger flashbacks which are
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one of the main symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder so that piece of it is reasonable
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but then saying that that caused him to kill his neighbors is nonsense people with post-traumatic stress disorder
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aren't Justified to kill people and they don't typically go on to harm anybody so
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that that's a huge leap from what is a likely trigger for a flashback whether
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or not it actually triggered a flashback I don't know but even if it did that is no excuse to
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then go and murder people in court the details of what actually happened on the night of the 21st of
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November were revealed Colin Reeves went to his military plaque on the wall and this was a framed or an
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event that he was given when he left the RMA and it had a ceremonial dagger which
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was traditionally given the soldiers you know when they were decommissioned when
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Colin Reeves went into the Chapel's living room he was met by Steven Chapel at the door
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they stabbed him at least six times some of the ones were up to 21 centimeters deep
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Steven Chapel then stumbled a couple of steps forward and fell near the door Colin Reeves then went over to the sofa
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where Jennifer Chapel was sitting and he stabbed her six times as well and she then slumped forward onto the floor and
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that's that's where she died when I spoke to the place Colin Rave said that
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he'd stop Mr Mrs Chapel a couple of times eight but in fact it had been quite a sustained and bloody attack
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a jury found Colin Reeves guilty of murder he was sentenced to a minimum term of 38
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years in prison in one very big research study on British soldiers researchers found that
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soldiers especially those who returned from active duty so who were in combat they are three times more likely to be
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convicted of violent offenses and if we're looking at numbers one in five so just over 20 percent of people
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who return under the age of 30 are convicted of a vile defense which is astronomical
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the numbers are so high partly because in military training you're taught that
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violence is a conflict resolution tool that that ends your disputes second there's often an aggrandizement of
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aggression so it's valued it's seen as a positive trait to be aggressive and
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stand your ground I'm absolutely not saying that everyone who is in combat or
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is part of the military and comes home that they are a danger to society we need to be really careful not to be
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leaning into the hero to zero narrative because that can be really stigmatizing also for individuals
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themselves instead what we should be looking at is making sure that support that transition is effectively supported
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so that we don't have these kinds of outcomes I think the motor of Stephen and
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Jennifer Chapel is quite an unnerving one because Colin Raves probably had nothing more than
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depression and anxiety like a lot of people but that combined with the dispute over the parking caused them to
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just snap one day it doesn't make any sense what he did and like his children
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have no father because he's in prison and the Chapel's Sons or orphans foreign
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