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this program is about unsolved mysteries whenever possible the actual family members and police officials have
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participated in recreating the events what you're about to see is not a news
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broadcast tonight in unsolved mysteries tim mcclure and his mother were inseparable
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until terry mcclure was found shot to death in a casino parking lot and her son became the number one
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suspect tonight tim mcclure wants to tell his side of the story in 1973 america was crippled by the gas
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shortage liz carmichael raised three million dollars for her revolutionary three-wheeled car which she claimed
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would get 70 miles to the gallon the government claimed fraud and liz has disappeared
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in georgia a feud between two rival restaurant owners competing for the same customers ended in the contract killing
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one of the murderers is still at large four mysteries with no endings but they can be solved
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last november we presented the story of the kidnapping of a wealthy mississippi woman
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whose husband was told to send one million dollars to 12 people named in a bizarre ransom note
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he paid out but his wife was not released tonight an update on this extraordinary case
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join me you may be able to help solve a mystery [Music] in 1977 tk hardy's saloon was a popular
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barn restaurant catering to the student crowd in the university town of athens georgia
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the saloon's owner was ted k hardy nicknamed tk he rented space from a group of
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businessmen who were converting an abandoned train depot into a complex of restaurants and trendy shops
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excuse me t.k hardy was an obnoxious yankee when you first met him he came on really strong and when he came to town
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it took me a little while to get used to him so that i would even want to have him as a tenant pretty good how are
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you doing pretty good when you got to know tk he was just a real teddy bear just a
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really nice guy he was enthusiastic about the complex and doing it right this week hardy's arch rival was a man
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named john mooney who also leaves space in the remodel train station for his restaurant called
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somebody's pizza mooney and tk hardy had a long history of animosity because both their restaurants were
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going after the same student clientele john mooney came to town he was the um out of college cool guy was full of
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vigor and enthusiasm about what he was going to do down there and how he was going to make
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his millions of dollars and what all he had to offer and that uh lasted until he got the
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lease sign and got the place and then he started uh well i just need this i just need that and i can't pay the
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rent and then john kind of got greedy hey come see us next door nickel beer somebody's pizza
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come to somebody's pizza right next door good deal on beer john started wanting to infringe on
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everybody else's business his idea was to go up to tk's pass out flyers on the deck for nickel beer
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and draw tk's crowd down his place what do you think you're doing here hey
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what does it look like that just went all over tk i mean he couldn't stand that that was the last straw
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i'll tell you what this is this is private property i want you out of here right now right
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john mooney and t.k hardy despised each other they really had gotten to the point that there was no
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reconciliation between the two people the feud between tk hardy and john mooney started out as a dispute between
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restaurateurs going after the same customers but after three years when the original
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lease on the train station expired tk hardy took over the entire complex it was then that his feud with john mooney
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escalated into a full-scale war the end result was murder when we decided to not pick up the lease we had to sell
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the place ted came up with the money and ted bought the station complex the shops
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everything which included john mooney's place he said he was going to evict john as
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soon as we signed the paper and he did that on a friday afternoon this is your eviction notice eviction
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notice this is your eviction notice you're out of here wait a minute tk hardy had made mention to several
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members of his family to his girlfriend that he was concerned not to the extent that he would harm him physically
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perhaps but that he was really concerned about the attitude of john henry mooney
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against him concerning the eviction ten days later in the early morning hours of august the 30th 1977
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tk hardy arrived home as usual after closing up his saloon for the night a man lurked in the shadows of tk's
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kitchen watching him when hardy left to walk into his study the man followed him
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[Music] tk hardy was shot one time in the head he died instantly four hours after hardy's body was found
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police picked up john mooney for interrogation at first mooney was very cooperative
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john duke you know why you're here tonight well i i guess it's about the shooting
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of t.k hardy yeah how did you know about the shooting news of hardy's murder had not been
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released to anyone yet mooney seemed to know exactly why he was being questioned
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on the shooting and how i felt about it when john mooney told me that he was aware that t.k hardy had
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been shot i told him that we had not released that information and that nobody knew that
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except the police department and the people that were investigating this murder that he had been killed or how he had
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been killed at that time he did become nervous he said i think i need to talk to my lawyer
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all righty thanks bye hold on just a second sit down when he hung up the phone he said
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my lawyer said for me to get up and walk out if i wasn't under arrest i'm going to allow you to leave i want
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to tell you something before you go though you're not under arrest right now
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but i will police did not have sufficient evidence to arrest mooney go ahead no other lead surfaced and
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three weeks after the murder the authorities were still at a dead end on the fourth week another local
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restaurant manager who had known both tk hardy and john mooney called the police with a bizarre story
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he said he was cleaning up behind the bar one night when an atlanta electrician named elmo florence began to
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drop hints that he was willing to kill people for money you're a what i'm a head man you don't
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need to call new jersey if you want somebody good give me a call yeah elmo was was
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bragging to me about the fact that he was a hitman and his services were for hire
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at first i thought he was kidding me murder t.k hardy your buddy you have to understand elmo i
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just thought he was kidding around with me some sort of warp sense of humor and then we started to go on and you
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know i just said to him i said all right how'd you get in the house piece of cake busted out the glass
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went in swept the glass up in the pot waited around for it telephone signal two rings
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i know he's on his way [Music] i waited [Applause] saw the car lights heard the car
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and waited for him elmo flarks began to describe the inside of the house where the murder took place he began to
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tell the point of entry he told what type of weapon was used to kill ted hardy he told where the bullet
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entered the head and where it exited there was basically in the statement that we
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received from the manager of the restaurant there were 21 different points that we had not released to the public
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we knew at that time that we had a very hot suspect here mr flock yeah elmo florence that's right
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if you're under arrest for murder don't move don't move all right get out of here okay get them
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on yeah elmo florence had told the restaurant manager that john mooney hired him to kill
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t.k hardy but when the police tried to arrest mooney they found that he had left the country
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if elmo florence had not walked into the bar and started telling the different things that we
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later determined to be true possibly the investigation into this border would have never been solved
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john mooney had already been established as a suspect but there was no connection
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at that time between mooney and florence i don't know how long that would have
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taken if it were ever uncovered this was a terrific break it was lucky and and we took advantage of it
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[Music] two weeks later police were tipped off that mooney had returned to the united
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states and was staying at a friend's apartment cobb county police lieutenant lee moss
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went to the apartment building and approached two men who were drinking in the parking lot
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the time i arrested john mooney all i knew was his name and uh general description and i knew the war
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was for murder so when i saw the two individuals drinking beer this gave me a perfect out i figured to
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approach him from this angle because i knew if he knew he was wanted uh he would
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probably flee from us or else he'd pull a gun on us i tell you all these cans here
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kind of upsets me all this litter and y'all sitting out here drinking officer
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moss ascertained that one of the men was indeed john mooney i'll tell you what
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put your hand on the car he arrested mooney and charged him with murder when the police inventoried mooney's
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belongings they found several incriminating notes he adjoted to himself incredibly mooney had written see elmo
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offered to him if worse comes to worst to take the whole rap and say robbery was the motive
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we have agreement for me to take care of his wife and family elmo florence's trial lasted only one
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week he was sentenced to life at a maximum security prison in georgia john mooney was also sentenced to life
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in a maximum security prison but three months later he was moved to a minimum security facility
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after six months of observation there prison officials gave mooney the job of kitchen
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clerk now he had access to areas that were not available to most prisoners how's the count today pretty good 245
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245. john moody was a uh what you call an ideal inmate he fit in well with the inmate and staff
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he didn't complain about the rules and regulations he just worked hard and he gained the confidence of the
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staff and myself so he had proven himself but he uh now we see he was a con artist
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and he was kind of assault on march 16 1980 after serving only 19 months of his life sentence
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john mooney engineered his escape [Music] when the prisoners went back inside and
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the guard locked the gate and walked away mooney made his break [Music] an accomplice was waiting in a car park
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nearby as mooney ran toward the car he discarded his prison wardrobe piece by piece
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two hours went by before prison officials noticed mooney was missing by then it was too late john mooney had
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made his getaway he has not been seen for over nine years without the actions of mooney and
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actually hiring somebody to take another person's life t.k hardy would be here today unless
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john henry mooney is captured he got away with murder these photographs were taken in 1979.
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today john mooney would be 40 years old he is 5 feet 10 inches tall and weighs about 170 pounds
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mooney has a fair complexion green eyes and sandy blond hair he may be living in the dayton ohio area
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[Music] update scottsdale arizona within minutes of our broadcast two viewers called our telecenter to
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report that john mooney was living in this house under the assumed name robert j
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kelly on august 8th john movie alias robert kelly was arrested at his home by the
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mesa police mooney had been living in arizona since 1982 he was enrolled at arizona state
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university for the past several years he's been working as an accountant for
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various companies in the scottsdale area mooney married six years ago and has a one-year-old child
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on september 16 1989 over nine years after he escaped john mooney was returned to georgia
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[Music] [Applause] in a moment the story of liz carmichael visionary automotive genius and wanted fugitive
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[Music] in 1973 america was faced with an oil crisis that nearly crippled the country
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it created a gas shortage and motorists had to wait hours to fill up their tanks
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consumers wanted a solution cheaper gas or more economical cars one visionary claimed she had just such
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a car a startling new three-wheeled vehicle called the dale it was claimed that this revolutionary
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car would get 70 miles to the gallon and cost less than two thousand dollars made of a special aerospace plastic its
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creator claimed it could withstand an impact against a brick wall at 50 miles an hour
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and was impossible to tip over it seemed the perfect answer to the gas crunch it was a new idea
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something we all heard of the gas guzzlers coming from detroit and here somebody could put out an
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automobile that could get 60 miles to a gallon of gas and travel all over the city without a
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problem would have been the ideal automobile the entrepreneur who unveiled the dale was a remarkable and forceful
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woman named liz carmichael who saw herself as a cross between howard hughes and henry ford
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we have pledges from private individuals for private stock elizabeth carmichael was very
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positive a very command presence a very powerful appearing person a big woman a massive woman but that was part of her
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appeal she wanted to be a man she wanted to wear a man's pants she acted like a man she was
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strong she was determined she had the ability to incite this fire in you not whimfish in any way she's a very
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dynamic strong person and she did things that that impressed us liz achieved celebrity
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status while raising over three million dollars through advanced purchases of her car
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then on may 29 1975 geraldine elizabeth carmichael was indicted by the los angeles
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county grand jury for grand theft and fraud she was later found guilty on 34 counts
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liz carmichael's car the dale turned out to be a sham was this a case of someone simply failing to live up to
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their dreams or did liz carmichael deliberately set out to swindle millions from naive
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investors in 1973 liz was a housewife living in los angeles with her five children
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she claimed she had a degree in mechanical engineering and a 1974 formed 20th century motor car
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corporation to produce her three-wheeled car the dale i've called you all together to try and
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give you some update information on what we're doing here at 20th century motors
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and with the dale liz carmichael told investors in the press that her company was riding three large
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aircraft hangars where they would soon start production in our first year and what about the
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cost cost factor any american can afford our car and the questions that were asked
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were not well if you've got a manufacturing facility where is it and how long you've been making cars and
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who are your engineers and well not the tough questions the questions were basically
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well liz where behind you and where can i send my money it was just so exciting and it was
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unbelievable we used to get uh mail sacks full of mail dragged into that office almost every day
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news of liz and her infamous car spread across the country and soon she was being interviewed by
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newsweek and people magazine back at liz's headquarters in encino california the authorities began to
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question her claims i'd like to see liz carmichael okay the california department of
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corporations accused liz of illegally selling both dealer franchises and cars that did not yet exist
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corporations oh you do a heavy desist and refrain order issued against 20th century motorcar
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corporation it orders 20th century to desist and refrain from the further offer in cyber
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securities thank you the department of motor vehicles discovered the company had no
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state permit to manufacture cars and even questioned whether the lab was developing a vehicle at all
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we went to the research and development lab and observed what appeared to be people appearing to be busy but
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in wandering through the lab uh i saw no evidence that they were designing a vehicle or in the process of making a
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vehicle everyone in the research and development lab without a doubt was sincere
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believed in the car and there was even talk if the company should fold there was a group of us that wanted
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to get together and continue with the car we believe that much in the car bill hall went to check out the three
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hangars where liz claimed she was gearing up to make the cars i went to this airport upon entering i
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discovered the factory were nothing the hangers were absolutely empty no tools no machinery nothing but a little dirt
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on the floor they had rented this for only one month and the rent had now expired
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so they actually did not have a factory that they were representing they had with the authorities closing in liz
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decided it was time to move her headquarters to dallas but there two and a half weeks later the
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district attorney filed criminal charges against elizabeth carmichael for grand theft one week later bill hall
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went to the research and development lab with a search warrant upon inspection of this vehicle it was
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not of a viable vehicle at all it had no engine two by fours were holding up the
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rear wheel the accelerator was just sitting on the floor it wasn't even attached
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the windows were not safety glass they would bend back and forth the doors are put on by regular
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door hinges like one might find on a house door the vehicle just absolutely did not
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exist armed with a search warrant the dallas police arrived at liz's home mrs carmichael police officers
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we have a warrant police officers man mrs carmichael police officers [Music] what are you making this
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is carmichael we have the police searched the house it appeared liz and her five children had
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left in a hurry god you look at this stuff looking through liz's belongings the
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police found evidence that liz carmichael was not what she seemed what do you got
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there looks like some kind of padded girdle is incredible this is carmichael i don't know
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you know we better call this stuff in okay nine weeks later liz carmichael was discovered living in miami with her five
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children a neighbor recognized her from a news photo and called the authorities [Music]
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she was working for a dating service and going by the name of susan raines [Music]
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they also learned that liz carmichael had another identity she was really a man jerry
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dean michael michael claimed he had begun hormone treatments in preparation for a sex change operation
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it was later learned that michael was wanted by the federal authorities for counterfeiting in 1961
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and jumping bail in 1962. we had no doubt that this was a woman you just didn't
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question it you just didn't question it i never thought that liz was a man i always thought that and she is today
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she still lives to me still a female miss carmichael we have a warrant for your arrest
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on april 12 1975 jerry dean michael alias geraldine elizabeth carmichael was arrested
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she was extradited to los angeles where she went on trial liz you know arrived in court every day
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in the mini skirts now here is somebody who's over 200 pounds and over six feet
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tall and has a demeanor of i am a new henry ford it was rather bizarre you can see that that liz did not give
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one quarter in the course of the trial there was never once when liz gave up her position that the people
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who supported her uh would vindicate her why did you tell the public that that car could go 70 miles
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an hour and still get 70 miles per gallon because it can sir this car is the car of the future sir without
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all these trial proceedings this car would now be in production well then why did you collect 1995 from
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over 5 000 people when there was no car existing the car has yet to roll off the
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line as soon as the car rolls off the line the cars will be delivered as soon as this thing is over we will be
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rolling the idea was valid it was sound it could be done today it could still go back in production and
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still would be a great car there's no doubt about it if she were to walk in this room and say let's go again
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i'd go right with her has the jury reached its verdict yes we have your honor what is your
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verdict we find a defendant guilty on january 24 1977 carmichael was convicted of conspiracy
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grand theft and fraud she was released on 50 000 bail which was paid by a prominent
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television production company in exchange for the rights to her story for four years liz appealed her
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conviction finally in 1980 she failed to show up in court for sentencing and liz carmichael and her five children
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vanished again they have not been seen for over eight years if i were liz i would be living as a man
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because all of this publicity and all of these victims know liz as a woman so i can't see how anybody could now
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imagine with the passage of the years what liz would look like and if i were liz i think i'd be a man
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this is what liz carmichael looked like as a man in 1960 and using the fbi computers to age his
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appearance how he may look today this is liz carmichael dressed as a woman in 1975
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and how she may look today update within minutes of our broadcast our telus center received a tip from a
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viewer who recognized liz carmichael as a flower vendor named katherine johnson curiously she had chosen the small
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community of dale texas as her new home shortly thereafter elizabeth carmichael aka jerry dean michael was arrested at
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her home eight years after she jumped bail carmichael was returned to california to
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face sentencing for her prior convictions a judge reimposed a sentence of one to
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ten years carmichael served two and a half years and was released from prison she is currently living as a private
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citizen in an undisclosed location on a previous broadcast we examined the case of 72 year old annie laurie herron
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wife of robert herron senior one of the wealthiest men in mississippi on the afternoon of july the 26th 1988
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mrs herron was abducted from her home in jackson mississippi the kidnapper left behind a bizarre
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ransom note demanding that robert herron pay money to 12 people who had all been sued by a company he
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controlled [Music] neighbors reported seeing a suspicious white van with florida license plates
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driving by the heron home just before annie laurie was kidnapped robert herron held a press conference on
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the steps of his home to make a personal plea to the kidnapper for his wife's safety
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my children i appeal up to whomever has my wife that they may say that she may be safely
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returned to us eight days after the press conference robert herron received a letter
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postmarked atlanta georgia he recognized the handwriting as his wife's bob if you don't do what these people
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want you to do they are going to seal me up in the cellar of this house with only a few
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jugs of water please save me [Music] robert heron sent out checks totaling nearly 1 million dollars to the people
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named on the kidnappers list he never again heard from the kidnapper or from annie laurie
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update last month newton alfred nguyen a 65 year old lawyer was arrested by the fbi in florida
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on charges relating to the abduction of annie laurie herron wynn was one of the 12 men named in the
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ransom note left at the heron home also less than one month before the kidnapping he allegedly purchased the
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van which matched the description of the vehicle seen in the heron neighborhood a woman told the fbi that wyndham
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promised her dollars to travel from florida to atlanta georgia and mail a letter for him
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just 16 days after annie laurie herron was kidnapped he handed her a manila envelope inside
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was the letter wrapped in a gray linen napkin when instructed her not to look at her
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touch the letter but to deposit the letter in a mail slot she had to ease the napkin off and she was able to
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observe the writing on the envelope later she identified a photograph of the envelope robert herron had received from
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his wife as a one she had mailed in atlanta i think about mom all the time and uh
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i'm sure my daddy does too there's there's no real way to quantify what this uh
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how enormous a tragedy and ordeal this has been to him and to the rest of the family
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[Music] in 1983 terry mcclure was discovered murdered her son tim was a key suspect and when
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he took a polygraph test and flocked tonight he tells why [Music] this is the unsought mystery's telephone
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center where viewers call with information they also call with suggestions for stories
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six months ago we received a highly unusual call it came from a man who was a leading
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suspect in the murder of his own mother 38 year old tim mcclure lived with his mother terry off and on throughout his
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20s tim and his mother were often seen together around town gambling at the slot machines or dining out
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even after tim moved away from reno he remained close to terry she'd do anything for anybody uh she'd
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you know give the shirt off her back or last nickel anybody she was just she was just real
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kind-hearted woman very gentle she was just a very calm person in 1983 terry mcclure was 62 years old
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and living alone she was thrilled when tim called to tell her he was getting married
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his wedding took place on friday january the 14th 1983 at lake tahoe nevada and to cherish to
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love and to cherish i was totally ecstatic um you know i mean a person waits all their life to
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get married and it's you know the big moment in their life um you know it wasn't
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you know um an elaborate wedding but uh you know to me it was the the big moment
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and uh it was great the newlyweds and their parents celebrated by doing a little
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gambling then around 10 o'clock in the evening tim left to walk his mother to her car
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[Music] terry planned to drive straight home to reno about an hour's drive from lake
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tahoe tim told her that he and his wife would stop by to visit the next day [Music]
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when the newlyweds went to visit terry at 6 pm the next evening they noticed signs that she was not at
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home [Music] it just appeared as though she hadn't been home and it was at that point i just had the
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strangest feeling that something was wrong i i didn't know but it just i knew she hadn't been home
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and to me that was just real odd strange because uh there was a you know on my honeymoon up
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there to get married and she'd taken time off of work and uh did not find her at home i just i
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couldn't understand it tim called various family members and friends of his mother
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no one has seen or heard from terry so he called the police yes i'd i'd like to report a missing
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person three days later on monday january the 17th terry mcclure's car was found in the
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parking lot of a carson city nevada casino only a half hour's drive outside lake
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tahoe the keys were in the ignition the doors were locked and terry mcclure was sitting in the
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front seat dead she had been shot twice in the head tim the day after they found the body
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carson city detectives questioned tim he was shocked when he asked him if he wanted to have an attorney present
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but slowly it dawned on him that he was considered a suspect i started to feel like a victim and i
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thought why should i have an attorney you know i mean this is this is my mother's death you should be
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investigating it on another level rather than thinking of me as doing it which which i found out
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they were looking towards me and i couldn't understand why i started to feel like the victim
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and it just it didn't make sense [Music] tim told the police that after he'd
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walked his mother to her car at 10 pm on the night of his wedding he'd returned immediately to the casino
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tim said his wife was still gambling with her parents so he gambled alone for two hours
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then rejoined his wife they went out dancing till dawn police have not been able to
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substantiate tim's or his wife's whereabouts that night although they couldn't
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provide you know specific locations where they went we we made every attempt to determine
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which bar or which dance hall they had gone to that night and we were unsuccessful
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they indicated that they partied from approximately midnight until six am the following morning
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none of which we were able to substantiate one way or another so we kind of went on what he said
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tim also told the police that two days before his mother's body was discovered
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he'd searched the main highway between lake tahoe and reno the police became suspicious when tim
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said he was looking for his mother's purse you know we again found this odd that he
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would he would attempt to retrace his mother's steps for the purpose of finding something
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that nobody knew was missing on the 16th nobody had any idea her purse was missing
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but he felt a specific need to go out and look for that purse yeah oddly enough she was found
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with only her purse missing she was fully clothed had all her jewelry the only thing missing was her purse
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they put together the fact that i said i was looking for her some evidence of her purse along the
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side of the highway and the only reason i said that was because my older sister had put the idea that
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maybe somebody had commandeered her vehicle and stolen her purse tim also drove through the parking lots
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of the casinos along his mother's route he proceeded at a slow crawl through the
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lots of every casino except one sometimes you get a gut feeling uh you could um maybe think of the holy spirit if you
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will just you know kind of guiding you louis uh perhaps uh a feeling of keeping me away from there
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to to save me from finding her i just i thank god i didn't find her that that would have destroyed me to
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find her that casino parking lot was the very spot where terry mcclure's body would be
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found two days later on monday january the 17th police estimated that terry had been dead since
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friday the night of tim's wedding [Music] police are also puzzled by a call tim
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may to cancel one of his mother's credit cards tim claimed he made the call on monday
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january the 17th the day his mother's body was found but the credit card company says he called
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on friday before his mother had disappeared i had um reported her credit cards missing
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thinking maybe that somebody had come and commandeered the vehicle and that her purse might have possibly
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been missing i called on monday the woman had written down that i called on friday
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uh which i couldn't understand it just didn't make any sense to me why she
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would mix up from a monday to a friday the credit memo for that particular company is now
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in the possession of the sheriff's office and it clearly shows according to their
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file that tim called indicated to the uh recipient that his mother was dead and the fact that his father was dead
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and to please cancel the account it's just it's one of the strangest things i i've ever heard about because i
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called on monday and how she could have mistaken that for a friday and then mixed up my words like that saying she
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had been murdered i had no idea she'd been murdered all i knew she was missing
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and that's what i told him we have a credit memo dated january 14th the lady that wrote that credit memo
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in her own mind is absolutely sure that's the date she received the phone call from a person identifying himself
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as tim mcclure six months before terry mcclure was murdered she'd taken out a 10 000
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insurance policy on her life tim and one of his sisters were named as co-beneficiaries
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i didn't think my mother would take out an insurance policy just wasn't like her i mean they're
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thinking that i you know did this for for a reason i mean which my share is only five thousand dollars i mean that's
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ridiculous well i can't say that that is the absolute motive in this case but
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you know i'm here to tell you that that people have been killed for a lot less
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on february the 14th 1983 the carson city police asked him and his wife to take a polygraph test
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i was completely cooperative i you know i had nothing to hide uh no reason not to take one so uh
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naturally i said sure i'll take a polygraph my wife agreed to so it was um a strange situation
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when they were asking the questions uh they made me close my eyes uh being all wired up i felt like i was
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an electric chair very hardwood-armed chair sitting there and as they asked the question there was
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oh it seemed like maybe a minute between each question with my eyes closed uh just a number of things are just
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going around through my mind at that point that's when i started thinking well geez what if they
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think i did it i'd never taken a polygraph before i didn't know how to react uh
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and it was just a very uh awkward and uncomfortable situation for me the results of those polygraph
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examinations would strongly suggest deception on both the part of timothy mcclure and his wife
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they were both adamantly confronted about those deceptions and in the interviews they they had no
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response they could not respond to why the machine was telling them they were being deceptive
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they had no answers i don't know why but i flunked the test and uh my wife uh had flunked only one
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question which didn't make any sense uh do you know who murdered terry mcclure was a
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question she was asked and it appeared to be a a lie when she said no so it looked like she was trying to
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cover up which uh is unexplainable to me all the circumstantial evidence was submitted to the nevada d.a
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but he deemed it insufficient to arrest tim mcclure police questioned friends family and
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acquaintances of tim and terry their testimony indicated that tim had been genuinely devoted to his mother
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and they believed he would never have done anything to harm her my mother was my best friend i mean uh
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all i could think of was taking care of my mother you know for the rest of her life after she'd taken
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care of me all my life that's the one thing i wanted to do was take care of my mother and i can't
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this picture of tim and his mother was taken at his wedding on january the 14th 1983 the night she disappeared tim is
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hoping that someone who was in the casino or the dance hall in lake tahoe that night
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will remember him because of his long hair and his unusual height of six feet five
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inches he wants his alibi for the night of his mother's murder to be substantiated perhaps somebody
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will come forward maybe they were afraid in the past maybe somebody saw something there had has to be
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somebody out there that had seen something that happened to my mother you know now
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would be a good time to come out with it join me next week for another edition of
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unsolved mysteries [Music] [Applause] [Music] you