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>> Gentlemen. >> Sit down. >> Hey, Munoz, any chance we can do without the jewelry, huh?
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Oh, come on, man. So. >> So? >> Hey, anybody got a cigarette? >> No.
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He don't smoke either. >> All right, cool. >> We've driven seven hours to
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talk with you today, Mr. Wells. >> Floyd. Please call me Floyd, man. >> So let's just slide on past
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the cool talk, Floyd. Now, your warden tells us you might have something for us.
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We don't believe you, so it's your job to convince us that we're wrong.
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>> Right to it, huh? [ laughs ] Whoo! I like that. But first we gotta talk about
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my deal. I mean-- >> Guard! Goodbye, Floyd. >> All right, all right,
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all right! [ sigh ] First I talk, then we deal. I was feeling kind of cooped up,
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you know, just wanting to head out. And it wasn't on account of no bad deal with Mr. Clutter.
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Nothing like that, no, sir. He always treated me straight, same as he treated any man
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who ever worked for him. Fact is, I liked Mr. Clutter. I did. His whole family. Nice people.
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Anyway, it was about 10 years after, I pulled three to five in here, petty stuff.
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I mean, come on, man. I took a lawnmower-- >> How'd you meet Hickock? >> They put us in the same cell
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together for maybe a month. I don't remember how it first come up. Must have been we was
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discussing jobs, you know, different kinds of work we'd done. >> That was when you told him
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what a nice man Clutter was? What a nice family he had? >> That's right.
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So he asked me if Clutter was rich and I said sure. After that, man, Dick wouldn't let up.
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How big was his farm? How old were his daughters, right? Did Clutter keep a safe?
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And I told him, yeah. Well, something like a safe around his desk somewhere. Next thing I know, man,
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Dick's talking about killing Mr. Clutter, right? >> All by himself? Hickock was going to go down
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there and kill Clutter all by himself? >> Nah, nah, man, with Perry. Perry Smith, a real quiet guy,
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says he's part Indian. But Dick always said, man, if ever a chance for a big score
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come up, he could count on Perry to go partners with. >> [ speaking German ]
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>> ♪ In this world today ♪ ♪ That we are living ♪ ♪ Some folks say ♪ ♪ The worst of us they can ♪
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>> [ speaking German ] >> ♪ When we're dead ♪ ♪ And in our caskets ♪
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♪ They'll always put ♪ ♪ Some lilies in our hand ♪ ♪ Won't you give me flowers ♪
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♪ While I'm living? ♪ ♪ Give me flowers ♪ ♪ While I'm still alive ♪ ♪ Won't you please ♪
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♪ Give me some flowers ♪ ♪ While I'm living ♪ ♪ Don't save all the flowers ♪
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♪ Till I've died ♪ >> Ya, ya, that's good. >> ♪ Don't save all ♪
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♪ The flowers till I've died ♪ >> Whoo! >> Bravo, bravo, bravo! >> This is it, ain't it, baby?
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The way it ought to be. >> Hey, Perry. Why don't you go fishing? Catch us some dinner, ya?
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>> Ya. >> I'm paying enough for this damn boat. At least we can have
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free dinner. That is good. Ya, ya. [ speaking German ] Ya. [ laughs ] [ reel spins ]
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>> Oh, shit! Oh, shit! >> He's got a fish! [ all talking at once ]
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[ applause ] >> Ya, good. Now shake hands. >> Well, I hope you find him,
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for his own sake. He wouldn't have run unless he was in trouble again. >> How many bad checks
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this time, sir? >> Seven. I can't pay any of 'em. Wish the Lord could tell me
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what happened. >> Ma'am, have you ever met this man? His name is Perry, Perry Smith.
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>> That's the one. That's what happened to Richard, that friend of his.
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>> When did you meet him? >> Oh, Richard brought him home one time. He said he was a friend
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and wanted to know could Perry sleep here. >> I said no. One look, and I saw what he was.
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Clear as water where Dick had met that one. [ coughing ] >> They went off on a weekend
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trip and I know that that Perry Smith put him up to writing all them bad checks after they got
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back from that trip. >> Your son tell you where they were going, ma'am?
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>> Ft. Scott. Perry's got a sister down there. She was holding money for him.
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>> $1,500. >> They were gone overnight. >> When was that? >> It was a Saturday,
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Saturday, November 14. >> And then they came back on Sunday, November 15? What time?
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>> Noon. It was noon. Dick ate him a late breakfast and then he fell asleep.
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Guess you could say that was unusual. >> It was 'cause of a hunting rifle that Richard was first
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sent to prison. >> That's his gun. Him and his brother go out once in a while after rabbits mostly.
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>> All he done was borrow a hunting rifle from a neighbor's house. He had no idea of stealing it
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and it was the ruination of him. That penitentiary in Lansing, when he came outta there,
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he was a plain stranger to us. >> You have any idea where your son might have gone?
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>> Open a map, point your finger. I don't know. >> Where are the keys?
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>> Huh? >> Dick, where are the keys to the car? >> What car? >> No! [ speaking Spanish ]
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>> You're gone. >> No. [ speaking Spanish ] >> Not now. So where's the money, Dick?
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Where's the money, Dick? >> What money? >> The money we were gonna get
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for selling that car was gonna buy us a boat, Dick. It was gonna get us to Cocos Island.
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You already sold everything we came down here with, Dick! I let you get stolen my guitar,
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and you spent it all. You don't feel a thing about anything, do you? You don't know what it's like,
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Dick, to have a guitar as long as I had mine and get it stolen. Wax it, shine it and put it to
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your voice, you know. You'd feel like it was a girl you really had some use for
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instead of one of those whores you're promising on marrying. >> Here. You wanna buy a boat, huh?
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Go ahead. Buy your damn boat. Sail across the Pacific Ocean if that's what you wanna do.
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I'm going home, back to the old U.S. of A. That's right, baby, with or without you 'cause there just
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ain't no way I can make decent money here. >> What about Cocos Island,
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Dick? >> Peruvian treasure? You can have it, the whole enchilada, all $6 million.
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The way I figure it, by the time you dug it up, it might even be worth 10 million.
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Only you'd be 100 years old! You still got that 40 from Kansas, right? >> Yeah, I have it.
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Yeah, but that was supposed to be our insurance money, Dick, a bus ticket, though, right?
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The entire Clutter fortune... $40. Well, if we're going, let's get out of here so we don't have
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to pay for another day in this flea pit. >> What are you doing? >> I'm gonna go to the post
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office to send my stuff back to Vegas. Why don't you go pawn that stuff with Jesus
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across the street? Hell, he's got everything else we came here with. I mean, if we're going north,
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we don't wanna be carrying any evidence, do we, Dick? And if we get caught, we get caught together.
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Isn't that what you said, Dick? >> Yeah. [ telephone rings ] [ ring ] [ ring ]
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>> Al Dewey. >> Yeah, this is Nye. I'm sorry to call you so late.
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>> What's up, Hal? >> Just got off the line with a buddy of mine from Vegas.
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Had him showing our boys' pictures around, checking pawn shops. >> They're in Vegas?
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>> Might be. He got an ID on Smith and the address of his rooming house from a pawn ticket.
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>> I'm on my way. >> See you there. >> It's so cold, I wouldn't care
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if this whole place caught fire and burned me alive. It's a crazy man's stunt, Dick,
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going back to Kansas City like this. You know, they're gonna get us for parole violation
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if nothing else. >> It's the only place I'm sure I can hang a lot of paper.
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I know we gotta be careful on account of they got a warrant out for what we hung before.
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So we'll move fast. What is it, honey? That other deal? Why the hell can't you
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just forget it? They never made any connection. They never will. >> You could be wrong, Dick.
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And if you are, it means the coroner for both of us. >> [ laughs ] Comedian. You kill me.
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Take a ride on the big swing? Both of us? No way. >> Dick, look. >> [ laughs ]
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>> Good morning, ma'am. >> Morning. >> I'm Special Agent Nye
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and that's Special Agent Dewey. >> Ma'am. >> Could we ask you
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a few questions? >> Sure. >> Thank you, ma'am. You know him? >> Nope. Never seen him.
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Yeah, he's stayed here a couple of times. He's not here now, though. He left weeks ago.
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Wanna check the register? There. He pulled out November 11. >> He say where he was headed?
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>> Nope. What do you got against him anyway? A nice punk like that. You oughta heard him talk.
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All these big long words coming out of this whispery, lispery voice. >> He's wanted on a warrant
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for parole violation in Kansas. >> Y'all came all the way from Kansas on a parole case?
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Well, I'm just a dizzy blonde and I believe you, but I wouldn't tell that tale
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to a dark-haired woman. >> So what did he do with himself while he was here?
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>> He tinkered with his car, was looking to sell it. Just before he left, I heard
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some colored man bought it. >> But he never said where he was going? >> You think I keep an eye on
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every crawly that comes in here? I'm not interested. I got a daughter married big, big.
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>> Nancy Clutter was my best friend. I can't believe it's been three months since she died.
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We planned to go to college together. We were going to be roommates. Nancy loved the river.
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Summer nights, we used to ride double on her horse Babe. Rode straight to the river
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and right in the water. I keep wondering what will ever become of Babe. I suppose they'll sell her,
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and I think wouldn't Nancy have just hated that. >> [ yawning ] >> Tex Smith?
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>> Over yonder. >> You're here about Perry. >> Yes, sir. We spoke on the phone
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day before yesterday. >> Mm-hmm. You are Church. Huh. Funny name for a cop.
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I remember. And you are, sir? >> Duntz, Carl Duntz, sir. >> Good name for a cop.
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>> I appreciate you taking the time-- >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, just sit yourself down.
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No need to be so formal up here. Barkeep! Could we have some fresh coffee for my friends
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here? >> As I told you, we found a letter from you among your son's possessions in Las Vegas.
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>> That's how we traced you here, sir. >> Mm-hmm. Where is he now?
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>> That's what we were hoping you could tell us, Mr. Smith. >> Uh, nope. Last address
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I have on him is Vegas. What's he supposed to have done this time? >> Your son is wanted as a
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material witness in connection with a multiple homicide in Kansas. >> You gotta be kidding.
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You're thinking Perry's a killer? >> Sir, the fact is, we're not
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really interested in your boy for these murders, but we would like it if you could help us with a little
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information. >> So he ain't a suspect is what you're telling me. >> Not at this moment per se.
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>> Well, per se, did you know my boy ain't even allowed to set foot in the glorious state
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of Kansas or else he's gonna be incarcerated immediately? >> We're aware of the
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conditions of your son's parole. >> Are you also aware, sir, that I personally wrote
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a 13-page letter entitled "The History of My Boy's Life," which was read into the official
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record of the Kansas State Parole Board? Are you aware of that, sir? >> There's no need to raise
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your voice to us, old man. We're just doing our job. Now, your boy is no angel,
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that's for damn sure, but that don't make him no killer neither. >> Your son's best chance would
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be to come forward and help himself, sir. >> And you are the one that has to tell him that, Tex.
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You need to impress that on him as strongly as you possibly can. >> I do, huh?
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>> Tex, John Smith married a Cherokee girl, Florence Buckskin. They had a rodeo act
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and the kid together. Did okay until Perry was about six, and then, quote, she took to whiskey
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and took the kid and left. Perry told me later his mother had soured her soul with liquor and men. End quote.
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>> A poet. >> She puts the kid in a Catholic orphanage in San Francisco
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where he almost dies, but the Lone Wolf comes to the rescue, takes the kid to Alaska,
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where, quote, I taught him to hunt for gold in the sandy beds of snow water streams.
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Taught him how to use a gun and hunt. >> Oh, he taught him how to put a 12-gauge shotgun three inches
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from a 16-year-old girl's head and blow her brains against the wall. Good. Now we know.
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>> The kid joins the Merchant Marines, signs up for Korea, wins the Bronze Star.
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>> God bless America. >> All right, Brother Nye, let's just settle down.
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>> No, no. This, if you excuse the expression, is one big circle-- >> Now wait a minute. There's
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some interesting stuff here. >> Like what? We built us a hunting lodge, just me and my son.
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And when we finished, we danced on the roof. 'Course, nobody never came. It was a big failure.
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Well, that's it. You boys cracked the case. Congratulations. >> I don't have to stay here
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and listen to the king of the crime busters! >> Hold on, Carl, hold on. Now I know we're all
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frustrated, so let's just think about what we got here. Two boot prints, a shotgun of the same caliber
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as the one used on the Clutters, fancy knots and the word of a convicted thief and perjurer.
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Now, we could nab these fellows tomorrow and never be able to prove spit. Without a confession,
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we'll never get a conviction. That's my opinion. >> What, are you sick, Perry?
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Why you hiding out here? >> You son of a bitch. Where you been, Dick? Where you been, Dick?
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>> Come on, honey. You hungry? We're eating again. Lunch is served. I'm sorry.
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I knowed if I didn't show up when I said, you'd get the bends. But I was having such a run of
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luck, I figured I oughta let it ride. Come on, join the picnic. >> Hey, what happened
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to the old plates? >> It's at the bottom of the K.C. reservoir. I got some new ones courtesy
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of my former employer, Markl Motors. Nobody saw me coming or going. >> Isn't that stealing?
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>> Well, that's the national pastime, honey, stealing and cheating. [ laughs ]
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>> Hey, let's go to Vegas. >> Why, you wanna get that stuff we sent up from Mexico?
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>> Uh-huh. >> Okay, let's go to Vegas. Sunshine is sunshine. >> Ah-ha!
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>> And, uh, let's just keep this between us. >> So they're broke, right?
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They figure a quick trip to Hickock's back yard. They steal some plates, they hang some paper.
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>> Hey, not necessarily. >> Hal, I don't care if Hickock was the only one ID'd.
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These animals stick together. >> Why? >> Creatures of habit. >> Okay.
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Means one of two things. They're still here or they headed back to Smith's
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home turf. >> Which means? >> You're on your way to Vegas. >> Hey, fellas--
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>> Hold it right there! >> Hands behind your back. >> Okay, we're driving you
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to the station. Come on. >> Brother Nye. >> Good to see you, Hal. >> You, too, my friend.
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>> This is Detective John Pike. He helped me apprehend our friends. >> Pleasure to meet you,
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Mr. Dewey. >> Well, thank you, sir. >> Okay, this way. Smith's in the room on
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the right, Hickock on the left. >> Now, the name Clutter has to hit 'em like a hammer.
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>> Right between the eyes. >> Nice and easy, Brother Nye. Carl? >> Richard,
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I'm Special Agent Nye. >> Dick. And you are... >> Agent Church. >> Sit down.
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I know the form. I've been questioned before. >> Good. Now, Richard, you been
00:28:02
on at least two big check sprees in the Kansas City area since your parole. >> Uh-huh. Hung quite a few.
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>> You think you could give me a list? >> Sure I could. First we hit the clothing shop
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in Olathe. >> Olathe? >> Yeah, and a camera shop in Kansas City. >> A couple of jewelry stores,
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but mostly cameras, radios and TVs. Easy pickings. I mean, easy for Dick, that is.
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People just like him. I could never do that on my own. >> Folks don't trust you, Perry?
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>> No. >> So you got out in August and you were doing swell until November.
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Then all of a sudden you start to hang paper. You wanna tell me what happened in November, Richard?
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>> That'd be a book, sir. Look, it's all on account of Perry, if you wanna know
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the truth. He got out before I did. He wrote me this letter reminding me about this deal
00:29:00
we used to talk about, about Mexico. Perry wrote me that he's got this sister that lives in
00:29:05
Ft. Scott and she was holding some heavy change for him. The idea was to buy us a boat
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and take tourists deep sea fishing. >> As far as I knew, she was living in Ft. Scott.
00:29:17
You know, my dad left me the money which, as I told you, she was holding for me in Ft. Scott.
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My plan was to go there and collect, but, you know, things didn't work out like I was
00:29:28
hoping. >> And when did you leave for Ft. Scott? >> Saturday. >> November 14.
00:29:43
>> And that was on Saturday, the 14th of November? >> Well, that's when I found out
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she'd moved. >> Must have been quite a blow after counting on a big piece
00:29:51
of money. >> Yeah, because, you know, we were counting on that money to go to Mexico.
00:29:55
>> Now when you found out that Perry's sister didn't live there anymore, what'd you do
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right then? >> Drove back. >> [ laughs ] >> You just went home?
00:30:03
>> Nah, K.C. We stopped at this little drive-in, ate burgers, and then tried Cherry Row.
00:30:12
>> Cherry Row? >> You don't know Cherry Row? [ laughs ] Every cop in Kansas
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knows Cherry Row. It's this stretch of park where you pick up, you know, mostly
00:30:23
hustlers, but that's not all. There's plenty of amateurs, nurses, secretaries.
00:30:28
We ended up with a pair of rollers. They were sisters, I think. >> Do you remember their names,
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by any chance? >> Thank you. I never asked. >> You spend the night with two girls and you never
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asked their names? >> They were just whores. >> Name of the motel, then.
00:30:48
Do you remember the name of the motel? >> Uh... Ask Dick. He'll know. I never remember junk like that.
00:30:58
>> So we took 'em to Fun Haven. It's on Blue Ridge Road. It's 10 bucks for the keys
00:31:04
to one of them cabins. Next morning, we woke up and they rolled us and beat it. Perry lost his wallet,
00:31:11
40, 50 bucks. >> You notify the police? >> [ laughs ] Notify the police.
00:31:16
Both of us on parole, not allowed to drink or associate with another grad or prostitutes?
00:31:25
We had some breakfast and then I drove him back to his hotel in Olathe. >> Perry, how far is Ft. Scott
00:31:32
from Kansas City? >> Oh, I couldn't say. >> Well, how long did it take
00:31:36
you to drive there then? >> Can't remember. >> Of course you can't,
00:31:42
'cause you've never in your life been to Ft. Scott, have you? Now the fact is, nothing you've
00:31:50
told us is true, is it, Perry? >> How much did you haul in? I mean, what would you say,
00:31:55
before you went to Mexico? >> A couple of Gs. [ all laugh ] >> You know what I don't
00:32:05
understand, Dick? Why do these people accept your checks? What's the secret?
00:32:11
>> The secret is people are dumb. That's the secret. [ laughs ] >> Guess you know
00:32:29
why we're here. >> Oh, sure, he knows why we're here. He realized that we wouldn't
00:32:34
come all the way to Nevada just to have a chat with a couple of two-bit check chiselers.
00:32:38
>> What? >> Who'd come all this way just to talk about a bunch of hung paper,
00:32:42
a bunch of bounced checks? >> Can't think of any other reason. >> I think it's time
00:32:46
we straighten Perry out, don't you, Mr. Duntz? >> Yes, sir. It's about time.
00:32:57
>> Now you listen good, Perry, 'cause Mr. Duntz is gonna tell you where you really were
00:33:02
that Saturday, November 14, where you were and what you were doing. >> You ever heard of
00:33:09
the Clutter murder case? >> Whoa. Now hold on here. I ain't no damn killer.
00:33:27
>> You were out there in Holcomb, Kansas in the home of Mr. Herbert Clutter.
00:33:31
And before you left that house, you killed all the people in it. >> Never. I never.
00:33:39
>> Never what? >> I never knew anybody by that name, Clutter. >> We have a living witness,
00:33:46
Perry, someone you overlooked. >> Living witness? Can't be! >> Why? Because you thought
00:33:55
you got rid of everyone? >> There ain't nobody can connect me to any damn murder.
00:34:00
Bad checks, little petty thievery. I ain't no damn killer. >> Would you take off
00:34:08
your boot for me, Richard? Now, this is a one-to-one reproduction of certain footprints found on the dusty
00:34:33
floor near Mr. Clutter's body. Perfect match. Now, your buddy Smith, he was even more careless.
00:34:48
We got his boots, too, and they exactly fit another set of prints in blood. Bloody boot prints,
00:34:56
just like a signature. You boys signed your work. Look at me, Hickock. Look at me.
00:35:10
Now I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen to you. You'll be taken back to Kansas
00:35:14
and you'll be charged with four counts of first degree murder. Count one, that on or about
00:35:20
the 15th day of November, you did knowingly and willingly-- >> Perry Smith
00:35:23
killed the Clutters. It was Perry. I tried to stop him. He killed 'em all. >> You got any aspirin?
00:35:48
They took away my aspirin. >> Is he okay? >> Yeah, she just fainted.
00:36:07
Come on, Hickock. Come on, come on. >> Where am I? >> Thanks. >> Your friend Hickock,
00:36:55
he wouldn't harm the fleas on a dog, he says. But he says you're a natural killer.
00:37:05
Says you whipped a colored man to death in Vegas just for fun. >> Ha. The tough boy.
00:37:33
Thought you guys were pulling a stunt, you know. I didn't believe you that Dick
00:37:38
would spill his guts like that. Okay. I'll tell you what happened. >> I'm sorry.
00:38:47
I need you to lie down. Okay, would you turn over for me, please? Okay, put your hands
00:38:58
behind your back, please. So you like horses? >> Yes. Do you like horses? >> Oh, yeah.
00:39:11
My mother was a champ rodeo rider. >> Where did she ride? >> All over.
00:39:17
Wyoming, Idaho, Nevada, Utah. She was part Cherokee. So you play the clarinet? >> Yeah. Not very well,
00:39:35
I'm afraid. >> That's all right. That's all right. You just keep playing.
00:39:43
I play the guitar. Taught myself. Doing that, I just got kind of good, you know.
00:39:51
Yeah, you will, too. Don't worry. We'll be gone soon. >> Let's go!
00:40:27
Come on! Basement. Go on. Sit down. Sit down here. Lie down. Get him in there. >> Come on.
00:41:28
>> Let's go. >> Don't move. >> Sit down. Sit down. >> I'm gonna ask you to please
00:42:14
leave my wife alone, young man. She's been sick for years. She's just now beginning
00:42:21
to improve. >> Well, Dick? Any qualms? Give me the knife. All right. Here goes.
00:44:08
>> My wife. Is she all right? >> She's fine. She ready to go to sleep.
00:44:15
Pretty soon, it'll be morning. Somebody'll find you all and all of this, me and Dick,
00:44:21
will seem like something you dreamed. Oh! Here. You finish him, tough boy. You'll feel better.
00:45:22
[ gunshot ] >> No! Oh, please, no! [ screaming ] [ gunshot ] [ footsteps ]
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>> He said it over and over. He drummed it into me. No witnesses. Well, I said you gotta shoot
00:46:41
the daughter and Mrs. Clutter, 'cause I don't kill any women. So he did.
00:46:55
I thought I could make him argue me out of it, you know, make him admit he was a phony,
00:46:59
a coward. See, it was something between him and me. That's what you meant by a living witness.
00:47:21
Dick. >> Hickock? >> Yeah? >> How's it feel, Hickock? >> Floyd, is that you,
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you lying son of a bitch? >> Hey, what you think they gonna do to you now?
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>> Nothing. I'm gonna bust out of here. I'm gonna grab a car and raise some dust.
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>> Uh-huh. After your mama testifies or before? >> They took my boy Richard
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when he was a pup and they threw him in a cage with these wild animals and they tormented
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him until he became as mean as they were. Then they just threw him in the world.
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But it seems like people are looking at me and thinking, well, she must be to blame
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somehow, and maybe I did something wrong. Only I don't know what it could have been.
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We're plain people, just country people, getting along the same as everybody,
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and I can't make excuses for what he did. I'm not forgetting that family.
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I pray for them every night, but I pray for Richard, too, and that boy Perry. I got nothing but pity
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for him now. >> Hello, Perry. >> Mr. Dewey. Hey, thanks for coming. There's something
00:49:53
I needed to tell you. See... I lied to you about a couple details and I'd like
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to correct 'em. >> All right. >> You know, I wanted to fix Dick for being such a coward
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and dropping his guts all over the floor, but I don't have anything against his family.
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And his mother, she's a real sweet person, and, well, I think it might be some
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comfort to her to know that Dick did not pull the trigger. I'm the one who killed all
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of 'em, but they never hurt me like some people, like people have all my life.
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I guess the Clutters had to be the one to pay for it. >> Well, I'll make sure I talk
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to Mr. and Mrs. Hickock and tell them what you say. >> Mr. Dewey... I'm not scared.
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You know, I died once already in Alaska. >> How do you mean? >> Well, you know, when our
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lodge went bust, my dad pulled a gun on me. It was just the two of us living this big failure
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and he blamed me. He said I was a greedy, selfish bastard and I should just get the hell out.
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>> He pulled a gun on you? >> Oh, yeah. My hands, they grabbed his throat and they just wanted
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to choke him to death. But, you know, Dad, he's a slippery one, and he tore loose and he grabbed
00:51:41
his gun and he pointed it at me and he said, "Look at me. "I'm the last living soul
00:51:47
you're ever gonna see." Well, I stood my ground and he pulled the trigger.
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See, he was so messed up, he forgot to load it. So I just left. I walked till it was night
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and when I got back, everything I owned was lying out there in the snow. Mr. Dewey...
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are you gonna be there? >> Yeah. >> Mr. Dewey... I'm so ashamed.
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>> Any kin of the Clutters present? >> No. You have heard the order of execution,
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Richard Eugene Hickock. Do you have any last statement to make? >> Yes, sir.
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>> Okay. >> Just wanna say that I don't have any hard feelings. You're sending me to a better
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place than this ever was. Mr. Nye. Mr. Church. Mr. Duntz. Nice to see you, Mr. Dewey.
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>> Okay. >> Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will
00:54:47
be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our
00:54:55
trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from
00:55:02
evil, for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever and ever. Amen.
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The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord. May the Lord have mercy
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on your soul. >> Not necessarily capable of murder individually, together the two men formed
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a third homicidal personality. The crime was a psychological accident, a twist of fate,
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virtually an impersonal act. The victims might as well have been killed by lightning.
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[ sigh ] This is just junk. I'm just so glad it's over. >> Yeah. >> I think it's a hell of
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a thing to take a life in this manner. Maybe I had something to contribute, something.
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It would be meaningless for me to apologize, even inappropriate, but I do. I apologize.
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>> Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will
00:57:26
be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, forgive us our
00:57:32
trespasses as we forgive them who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us
00:57:39
from evil. For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever and ever.
00:57:48
Amen. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.
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May the Lord have mercy on your soul. >> ♪ There's a race of men ♪ ♪ Who don't fit in ♪
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♪ Their spirits ♪ ♪ Can't sit still ♪ ♪ They break the hearts ♪ ♪ Of all they can ♪
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♪ And roam the world at will ♪ ♪ They range the field ♪ ♪ They row the flood ♪ ♪ And climb ♪
00:59:39
♪ The mountain's crest ♪ ♪ 'Cause they got the curse ♪ ♪ Of the gypsy's blood ♪
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♪ And don't know how to rest ♪