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that picture he loves that car and would you remember when he couldn't drive it
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and he used to ask anyone to push him in it in that picture do you remember how much
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he loved that Mike always wanted to take her back to the park every day train was it was a real boy he was very
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active full of energy was running around very much into football he learned how to ride his bike at two years old he was
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extremely proud of her he was so determined and if he fell off he'd get back on I used to sit down and talk
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about everything man you're so happy all the time as a teenager he was you feel like oh this guy is like a big man
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you know telling me what to do on even though I'm the father but he's like he
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was a father telling what to do [Music] so that evening a fight breaks out outside the takeaway
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shot the police have described it as a brawl and Jermaine cools 14 year old boy who lives in the area enters that ball
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going to call sediment German beanstab and so my sister said to me just go go go I just put the phone and I run to the
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hospital I don't even think I checked for cars already but I just run what happened happened very quickly and
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changed the lives of Jermaine's family his brothers and the local community resulting in a ferocious attack with a
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knife your group were clearly geared up and ready for serious violence he didn't stand a chance
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he must have been terrified and in agony I would wake up every morning for a split second I think it was a dream and
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everything was okay go and look for Jermaine in this room and then it would hit me
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[Music] we were like soul mates he was my best friend it's everything to me thank you
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[Music] foreign [Music] was born on the 4th of March 2007 it was a Sunday um Julius was at work that day I was at
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home I recognized the pains but I was quite early along it was only seven months
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I remember taking a taxi to the hospital and yeah they told me that I was in labor
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and I think gsrf after a few hours it was a happy morning and everything started going smooth and
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started going nicely I was amazed because he was Tiny Jermaine was only born like about five
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pounds it was really small very premature but it didn't require any special care so I was amazed to see such
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a small minuscule baby that was perfect which I mean was the completion of our family for us
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June was the key to the family we used to do everything together from a baby it was just a gift in the world I know
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you're just coming like like a gift to me to have people always laughing and
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joking running around always going and talking to everybody it was very very close to me and always everywhere that I
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went if I had to leave to go to work and he knew it was coming out that time he'd
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take my shoes and hide them my coat and hide them so I couldn't leave I had to
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stay at home and it was it's an amazing chart I mean it was one of the happiest kids you could
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find we used to do a lot of stuff together but the priority was his mom he was very
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very very very very sensitive when it comes to his mom he was very much into his friends
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his brother his older brother David scared for all the time his computer games food
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eating every hour yeah it was black all your family together on a Friday night when the school school on
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Saturday just all been the room together playing this game it's all the food
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laugh joke foreign always together as a family unit you know all his brothers just take advice from
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him when they have any problem first person is to call is him and he's to give them advice what to do and try to
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talk to them it was he has a very very loving kid there's not one day that goes by and he
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don't call me I'm like are you okay is everything all right oh can I come
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see you we miss always check up on me that's something about him always make sure he
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checks up on me you know Jermaine was caring Joanna's loving Jermaine was wise
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Germany's crazy and happy adren is always a life and soul of any room anywhere he went
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um he was loud confident but he also knew his limits he never he never ever did anything he was
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it was very unique child I want to sleep and I wake up like to three o'clock in the morning and Jimmy
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was in the kitchen sitting down facing outside and I said you wanted to go to your bed
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and then tell me I just don't feel like sleeping today I don't know why [Music]
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it was on at 8 30 9 I wake up I look in his room you'll stand on his room and I
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left the house to go to work that day was just you know I just had a feeling I didn't wanted to go to work
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just like I don't want to do nothing that day it was actually for November a sunny day
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we spent the morning together I think around 12 I had to leave to go to work he came to the door with me and then he
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watched me leave so when I got a little bit up the road and I could still see him outside on the
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front doorstep what should we leave I turned on my back because that wasn't something
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usual normally he would just shut the door and then I told him what he did why are you still standing outside go inside
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and shut the door and he told me okay I'll see you later and told him yeah I'll see you later and I went I went to
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work I never forget about the my sister called me wrong color for five because it was a member coming over and he had
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to go to his grandma and I called Jimmy night quarter to six I said don't forget to go
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by your grandmother I don't feel like you but I'm gonna go but I finished work kind of done some
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shopping I bought some stuff at Germaine I was walking at the end of The High Street right when I find wrong and Julia
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said called me to studies received a call from Delaney tremendous oldest brother to say that your mind had been
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stopped it's about six o'clock in the evening on a stretch of the London Road near
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West Croydon station it's a really busy street there's lots of shops and takeaways lots of Life on
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that street so that evening a fight breaks out outside the takeaway shop the police have described it as a
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brawl and Jermaine calls 14 year old boy who lives in the area [Music] brother is there with him and there's
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CCTV footage which shows this group on the street and it's chaotic it's really hard to
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figure out what's going on the theme would have been one of Chaos when you've got an incident in terms of
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knives that are being used Jermaine cools is lying on the floor he's is helped by somebody on the street
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into a car and he's taken to hospital I just left the shop I didn't care about nothing I left the
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shop and I went to the hospital on the world sitting only for hours and hours I keep on asking them if I'm gonna
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be okay and they said they don't know is Lauren is shaking and praying and I don't know
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when we arrived I hadn't noticed initially but the front reception desk was full of blood I think my Jermaine
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had been standing they wouldn't allow me to they told me there's a team of
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doctors working on him I can't see him that's when I realized that whatever injuries it's got serious
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eventually the doctors came and got us two lesson arrived from his restaurant at that point they took us into a side
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room which made me realize it was even more serious they explained to me that tremendous
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been seriously injured and that they were working to save his life [Music] just a day of course
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I wish I could not go back to that day and change everything that happened but I can't
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[Music] thank you I left two police officers got in the room with us I wasn't really sure of why
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and then eventually the doctors came and advised us that they couldn't save tremendous
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I don't know I keep on looking in the window all that they still thinking that
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he's gonna come back you know that there is a wrong person that is not him I think at the moment they told me that
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my brain didn't digest it and I kind of went into or a pilot I told them it's
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okay it's fine I didn't show any emotion I don't think I actually digested the
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news that Jermaine lost his life that night or the next day I think it took maybe three to four days for this shock
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to to wear off and for me to actually digest it gone [Music] unfortunately Croydon in 2021 is
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described as the knife crime Capital because they have a lot of crimes there which involve knife crime gangs drugs
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stabbings and unfortunately murders as well the victims and the perpetrators generally tend to be quite young so for
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the officers to know at that time that they are now dealing with a murder of a young 14 year old child would have been
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really hard for them to take [Music] to give give information I guess to journalists
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as they're investigating because obviously they need to do their job so they can't give too much away
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so in those early days the information was quite limited from the police [Music]
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it's really important to try to find these perpetrators to bring them to justice as quickly as possible one of
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the main reasons is for the preservation of evidence and to be able to locate the
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weapon the other reason is because that individual may have some form of influence on other Witnesses they may
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fear for their own safety and they will necessarily not want to speak out whilst
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this individual is at large and out in an area that they know obviously homicide murder is always
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going to be a high priority for the police but particularly in a case like this where the victim is a child and the
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perpetrator is still at large this is a dangerous individual and he could go on to kill again
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I was wondering why why would somebody stop Germany how would somebody do that to him
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Within a couple of days but maybe within 48 hours at the police since they typically
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they knew who was responsible that they're pretty sure they know no idea of who did her that they were looking to
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locate that person and hadn't been able to so far they always maintained to read
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it from the CCTV it had pertained early on even free to do bits that fed free later that they saw
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that Jermaine was in this evictive and yeah obviously the police knew who the murderer was but then cited a lot of
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people locally as well foreign is only 14. he's not got any gang affiliations he's not embroiled into
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that kind of Lifestyle he doesn't even have any known enemies so from his family's perspective this is completely
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out of the blue and is just inexplicable if I could have changed something about
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that night maybe I'll just pray God that he wouldn't have been getting end up in a
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situation because there was no no one could control what was going to happen at night
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but I had magic to change something about that night you're probably staying at his house and
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you're gonna come outside that line you're still home to be honest these pictures this is how I always
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remember in I don't know he just was so mature and just like a fully developed young man
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even though it was only 14. I literally saw him turn into an adult overnight like this
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and just be happy [Music] we used to run all over the place and laugh at me [Music]
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I used to walk everywhere [Music] let's go [Music] [Music] what happened happened very quickly
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from what was a really lovely evening with his two brothers and Friends resulted in young Jermaine losing his
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life being stabbed no less than seven times with a machete style knife not any kind of knife that you could just buy
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off the shelves and absolutely horrific looking weapon for a young child to be laying on the
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floor to see what was happening to him must have been absolutely petrifying and terrifying for him
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and all four for all the people around him [Music] staggering to see the size of the knife
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and then it goes on to the horrible moment where he lunges for Jermaine and even though you're watching it on screen
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you can almost feel the urgency and the weight of his body lunging fourth he just isn't holding back at all he
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lifts it up and then just goes straight into a stabbing motion which is horrific he saw that
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opportunity as soon as Jermaine was down the second time that he would inflict lethal and fatal injuries onto this
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young boy [Music] that this is a ferocious individual who has absolutely no consideration or
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concern for what he's about to do and the fact was that he wanted to cause the
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most serious of harm to the point of killing hyung-jermaine we now know that he stabbed Jermaine
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Poole seven times once to the chest and that was the Fatal injury became quite aware quite quickly at a
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young age that most young boys tend to carry a knife and he was always had that concern that
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he could be a victim to an eye he did have conversations with me about carrying a knife because if not he'll
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become a victim to one but I was really Dead Set against that life for him I told him when you carry a knife you know
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it's gonna end in two ways which is that you couldn't be killed by that knife or
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you couldn't kill somebody with that knife so I told him that I didn't really want
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that for him his life he understood that he used to talk about that all the time
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I feel guilty after that happened to him this is something I had to live for the
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rest of your life is a pin that'll never go away one of the most significant moments in
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that footage that you see a figure breaking off from the group all he's interested in is
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not to be caught running as quickly as he can and then in the final video you see him actually
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covering the knife so that it's hidden with the most likelihood is that he would have probably put that either down
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his trousers or into his jacket because it's easier to to walk with using all the information and the
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intelligence available the police will very quickly able to identify Marcus Walker as the suspect
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I started to try and ask people about who is Marcus Walker and it come up you know that he was a gang member
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apparently it was strange to Jimmy which I didn't know him Trent's life was a different path of
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life it wasn't in the streets in a gang there's a family orientated young man you know there wasn't leeway
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he would have ever have known Marcus will call any of his associates I think the fact that some members of
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the press and some members of the public default to this idea that any young black man or black boy that's been
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killed in a violent incident necessarily equates to some kind of gang violence I think that
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boils down to systemic racism and that comes essentially from what what we're
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fed by the media I guess what we're fed in popular culture in films um in TV programs
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Jermaine was just a normal kid he wasn't Affiliated to any gangs he wasn't out
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there that evening to try and cause any trouble he wasn't out there involved in
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any kind of criminal activity we know that because we know that through the family and through his friends local
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community and through the schools the next day after that happened over did that to the police they then
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confirmed with me and what happened verbally but I think around in London Road he would have arrived
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there around 10 past six five past six by the time he walked to them it would have probably
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been around quarter past six which is where the so-called brawl broke out which Manhattan moved from Delaney's
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side the whole time Marcus Walker comes over to where the ball is happening and pushes Jermaine
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backwards and the associate of Marcus Walker pushes him fully backwards out of the way onto the floor Marquez Walker
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runs out from behind Jermaine withdrawing a massive machete and repeat at least stabs him from the back which
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then rolls away to get away from the injuries and he just kept some repeatedly stabbing him you can see in the CCTV
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data while stopping him he's looking at him is specifically aiming for his chest
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the next clip is remarkable it shows Jermaine walking to the car he's being aided by a
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member of the public we only see the back of him but he seems okay and the other striking thing about that bit of
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footage is this catastrophic event has just occurred that is going to append everybody's lives
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and you can see seconds after the attack everything just carries on as normal on
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London Road people are walking to the shop people on their phones cars whizzing by
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and in the middle of it all you've got this 14 year old boy who's just been fatally stabbed
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doesn't know that he's going to die otherwise nature men wasn't going to be
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carrying a weapon or starting a fight which never got into fights and it's been up
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countless various times that will different situations and not going into physical science
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so I just couldn't actually believe that somebody could do something like that to
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Jimmy [Applause] [Music] the police now know who the suspect is and they're trying assiduously to find
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him but even with their efforts six weeks pass and they come up short so this must have
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been quite disheartening and quite upsetting for the family because there's a chance that they might
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not find Justice they probably know that the more time that passes the likelihood
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of the police catching the perpetrator will decrease so like two to three weeks to me it was
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a bit like everything was kind of died down um there wasn't much cause because there
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was nothing to update me with there wasn't really much information fed back I was quite disappointed that
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person that murdered my son is still out there living their life and enjoying their freedom
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well my son had lost his life at their hands police officers will rely heavily significantly on community information
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on community intelligence and witness information and obviously then you've got the other issues such as CCTV
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forensics DNA anything that would support the investigation in order to bring the offenders to Justice
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[Music] how do you plan a funeral for someone that shouldn't be having a funeral
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you know how do you celebrate a life that shouldn't have ended at 14 years old
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I'd remember little Snippets of it the car pulling up here and looking out of the window and knowing that that's
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hard to manage to be coming home at all I remember bits and Bobs from the service of people standing up and saying
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various things relatives sharing their memories [Music] most of all I just wanted it to be over
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so I got him and be alone and tried to even begin to process what was going on [Music]
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you'll have what you call field Intelligence Officers and officers will use a range of tactics
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some of those tactics may be covert and some of those will be over they'll be
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looking at the movements of the perpetrator of Marcus who his associates were where he might hide out who he may
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have gone to uh what would his normal movements be the first knew who he was he has been
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even in trouble many times before their personal life they know that boy was violent that boy was looking to kill
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someone I came to a point where he began to wonder if they will ever catch him especially when it had been you know his
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six weeks down the line sometimes I did used to wonder if he will get the opportunity to leave the country and
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ever face Justice [Music] he adored tipax music considering it was not from his generation
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Torino's inspired to do his own music Tupac's got quite a lot of philosophy in
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his songs and I think that's where Jermaine's interests lied that it was a bit more
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about real life instead of talking about violence and things that are irrelevant
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were you like you like to sing you used to write his own songs he used to make his own bit
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and sing in his room he obviously the studio there so he was very very into music you have a lot of songs
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started but you never finished but Jermaine his oldest stepbrother Delaney was his Idol he loved Delaney he
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loved having a big brother that was a man and while he was a young boy he looked to Delaney in a similar way that
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he looked to Julius to teach him how to be a man but he also looked upon him in the same
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way as a companion of his own age um so yeah there was a massive closeness between the two of them considering one
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is the eldest and one is the youngest and an age group of you know maybe 12 years or more didn't make a
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difference they were they were always together first time I saw snow we went out well I think it was this
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area here it was really fun that day so it was just it was just sliding down the heat and
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like the first time doing that he taught me how to do it to be honest yeah that's funny we had a lot of
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memories in the short time of his life 14 years there's a lot of memories [Music]
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after Marcus attacked Jermaine he seen running from the scene and he takes a taxi home and then in the early hours
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of the morning he tells his mother that he's going out to get some food his mother clearly suspicious looks on a
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small iPad or tablet of his and she sees that there's a conversation between
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Marcus and his friends where they are advising him to discard and lose his clothing and phone because he's been
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involved in a stabbing Marcus then makes his way to a care home where he is met by a female friend of
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his and he spends the night there in the afternoon he leaves that location and then he disappears for six weeks
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where he is hiding away and he's been protected by either friends or others in
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some parts of South London we know that that gang culture has kind of infested the entire community so what that means
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is the locals might not report anything to the police maybe out of fear of Retribution from The Gangs or out of
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loyalty to the individuals or both so this is a real struggle it's a hurdle for the police they often meet this wall
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of Silence because of a general mistrust of the authorities as well it almost becomes an innate part of fabric of the
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community itself they live by the code snitches get stitches the police eventually caught up with
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Marcus Walker in a really interesting way they were called out on a completely separate
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incident which happened to be the house that Marcus Walker was hiding out in and
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they actually found him hiding behind a bed [Music] initially Walker tried to fob them off
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by giving a false name but eventually he admitted to his identity when they arrested Marcus Walker and
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they called me to tell me that they'd arrested him they told me that they're sorry it's
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taken them so long they called me and said look you know this is a call that we would have liked to have given five
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weeks ago but where you know all inside he's been arrested they did terminated
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it was an unrelated incident and that he tried to to conceal his ID from the place
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which I wasn't surprised about any of it because I kind of felt that would always
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be the case that it would be it would be arrested by chance Marcus confessed to the officers that he
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was responsible for the murder of um Jermaine but he initially only admitted to the possession of the knife
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and then when the evidence unfolded he had no choice but to admit to the murder of Jermaine there was clear evidence of
00:31:12
him as being the main perpetrator and the instigator of that attack that was launched on that group in the early
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stages and he was advised by his Council and solicitors to plead guilty because the evidence against him was
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overwhelming I wish it was me that happened to not him because yeah yeah he had this life
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ahead of him and just one day I couldn't protect him you know and that was the
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most important day I wish I could have protected that there I don't know Marcus he's what everybody would
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describe as a habitual knife carrier in the same way that any normal person would go out with their mobile phone and
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wouldn't leave home without it you know what did he think was going to happen to him when he walked out the
00:32:05
front door if he had to carry Rambo knives zombie knives you know on his person it was clear and evidence that he was a
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kind of young man who wanted Kudos amongst his own gang members by inflicting those type of injuries by
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carrying the knives that he carried the bigger the knife the more sharper the weapon the type of weapon they carry
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gives a more and more cudis and Status within the gangs that they work with [Music]
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what they're doing to change us to live as a family as one people there is no change thank you Julie it's
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a really important question there from Julia schools what are people doing to make a change a lot of pain here tonight
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but also a lot of Hope a trial conventionally because he was trying to use a mental health route
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played diminished responsibility he couldn't get a psychologist report so that was why the court process was
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really drawn out one of the reasons was because while he was on a reminder in July 2022 he acquired an attempted
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murder charge on an attack on a fellow inmate so that delayed everything in jermain's court proceedings
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we know that there was an incident inside hmpe Felton whilst Marcus Walker was there
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he rallied some other inmates and set out to attack another inmate he was calling this other inmate a snitch
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and they've left this person you know with life-changing injuries they left him lying on the floor you
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know in pools of blood and they laughed as they were taken away they mocked this in me
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I wasn't surprised to hear about that kind of charge of behavior from an individual
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of his nature when we got to December 31st 2022 I was advised by the family layers and officer
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that he was advised legally to plead story as there's no viable defense for him
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and that's whatever when we attend the court in the 9th of January when the trial side of the able to go away
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completely out of there wanting to or goodness of his heart or wanting to take responsibility for his
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actions at all it was just because he had no way forward the first court appearance he had
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attended in person just looked just staring at him just wondering how an individual like that thanks
00:35:05
why he killed my son I mean there is no answer as to why he killed my son then there's no justification and there's not
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an answer that would ever be appropriate it was only when sentencing was scheduled we were allowed to be all of
00:35:22
the CCTV held by the police as that was what was going to be used to prosecute Marcus Walker that we
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saw the full City TV it's not very very clear footage but it's clear that a young boy is on the
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floor being ferociously attacked by this 16 year old who is in possession of that
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knife I think maybe it was watchable because tremendous life there he was sustained
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his injuries there but he made it to hospital and because the last of the CCTV that you see is he walks to the car
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[Music] and try to be strong he can't see pain in his eyes you can't see tear you can't
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see fear he got up and he tried to be strong and and survive and fight and because of
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that it made it easier to watch you know I don't think Liz and Jermaine in any
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shape or form would have ever been something I could accept but that definitely makes it a million
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times harder to know that I had Marcus Walker of walked away from my son my son would be here today
00:36:41
and to know that you lost your child your life your everything at the hands of I love her and division
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just to step it up like it it's mortifying Marcus Walker was so ingrained in his
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own violent lifestyle that after he took the life of 14 year old Jermaine whilst
00:37:05
in custody and on remand he produced a drill video which showed Heath lack of respect absolutely no remorse whatsoever
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for the Fatal loss of life of another child by singing and gloating about Jermaine's mother crying and the fact
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that he'd taken the life of another like it meant absolutely nothing to him fact that Walker actually writes and
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then records a rap video and he's taunting Jermaine's family about what he's done shows this colossal lack of
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empathy clearly There's No Remorse it's all rivardo it's all about showing off to
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your peers it's all about intimidating your rival gang members and and just trying to look like the big man now you
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can imagine the stress and the pain for Jermaine's mum and dad and watching that
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video not only have they lost their son they're now seeing the person who did it
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bragging about it and showing no remorse I was angry infuriated but at the same time not surprised I
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didn't expect much more from that type of individual so although it offended me
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because you've met my son and now you're trying to you know disrespect his honor and
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disrespect our family considering we were innocent victims less infuriating but honestly not something that I was
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Surprise Play there's nothing you can say to somebody like that is it foreign
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for this to happen every day so you can feel it you can feel what I'm feeling
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now we know that this entrancing is being televised today and the judge has said
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that she wants that to act as a deterrent how do you feel about that do you think that will work I don't know
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the fact that the sentencing was televised I think it's really really important for a number of reasons mostly
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to show young children young kids that are out there that are carrying knives consequences of their actions and what
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impact it can have when carrying knives the judge said in her sentencing that if
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you're going out with those kinds of weapons on you you're looking for violence looking for something to get
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involved in Marcus and his friends were geared up for serious violence that he'd
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had an intent to kill Jermaine calls Marcus Walker you can stay seated until I tell you to stand up
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there is no sentence which I can pass which can relieve the pain and loss which you caused
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nothing can bring Jermaine back no term of years can even begin to compensate for his family's loss
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for the murder detention at his Majesty's pleasure the minimum term before you will be
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considered for released by the parole board will be one of 19 years would have ever been enough and I think
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the sentencing in general for juveniles this week I think that's something that
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was kind of put together a long time ago when juveniles work committing murder at the rate they are
00:40:39
now not appropriate at all he's gonna do the same thing he did he's gonna do it
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again he's gonna glorify it because everybody in life have have something they enjoy doing that's that's that's
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what make him happy that was that's his Hobby 2021 was terrible year for teenage
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stabbings in London it was the worst on record and Jermaine cools was the youngest he
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was 14 years old and I think sometimes we we forget because we think of these young people as statistics and we forget
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that domain has a family and they've been left behind now their lives are completely empty
00:41:23
in the last couple of years Croydon and the local police and partners are working really really hard with local
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communities to eradicate them off gangs and they still have their challenges but
00:41:34
it is getting somewhat better in Croydon here you have Jermaine who is 14 years of age and then you've got Marcus he was
00:41:43
17 years of age when he was sentenced and he will be released when he's 36 years of age he'll still have