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[Music] we weren't looking for someone with horns we were looking for someone who
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looked just like anyone else and that's what made it so difficult he raed have it over South L
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he put a lot of fear in his area for a long time the followers felt like he would have a demeanor that would be very
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unassuming the level of violence at some of these crime scenes it was just horrific I kept having a dream she was
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sending me a message that said Mama come get me Mama come get me if he hadn't been caught he would
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have continued to kill till maybe somebody killed him in the process [Music] [Music]
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[Music] [Music] Murray as a child was a little ball of energy we always said her first words
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were I will not and you can't make me instead of Mama and Daddy but she was just a funny little curly-headed girl
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and she just never stopped running when she was all and the older she got the more she did more of the
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same she finished high school when she was 16 College when she was 20 and had her MBA by
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22 she was maybe the youngest person to ever receive an MBA at LSU she was starting her life I mean she was
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vivacious and fun and beautiful [Music] Murray had accepted a job in Atlanta with Deo and TCH uh top six accounting
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firm for their internal audit department and that's what she wanted to do she
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could hardly wait to move to Atlanta and wanted to move that summer but her job did not start until the fall so she
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stayed in Bon Rouge working at LSU the last time she was with me at this house she was leaving and she she
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turned to me and smiled and did her cheek did like that cuz she never wanted you to kiss her on the mouth cuz it
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would mess up her lipstick and I kissed her on the cheek and it was like I took a snapshot in my mind and I just can
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immediately see her entirely it was just a moment that just stayed with me forever in May 2002 Murray is getting
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ready for a friend's wedding when there's a knock at the door from a man
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she doesn't know Murray had been apparently sitting on the couch and there was a plate of
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her lunch was still sitting on the edge of the couch what we surmised was that the man
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came to the door and he talked his way in and then once he got in he attacked her she was raped and she fought back
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and she fought back really hard Murray's case was so violent in the end he stabbed her 81
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times I had asked to see the autopsy pictures and the crime scene pictures and I knew that was going
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to be horrible but I felt compelled I felt like I had to know what had happened to her they had asked us what
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color her hair was was and I thought it was such an odd question and then I could see that it was because there had
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been so much blood that that was all you could see another thing I guess that always
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Disturbed me was in the bathroom where she must have tried to escape him were blood drops they could tell
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dropped straight down in front of the mirror where they presumed he held her to show her what he had done to
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her and then he uh apparently tried to rape her while she died you can't help but think when did
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she know that no help was coming and that she would die and this that this was the end of
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everything she'd hoped [Music] Gina green was 41 years old she lived on Stanford in a nice little house she was
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a nurse had a lot of friends was very social she just didn't show up to work
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one day and she was found strangled in her bed and there was a lot of fear around that
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murder because it was so close to campus apparently Gina green felt that she was
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being watched before she was murdered and had relayed that to her friends and I think some family
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members so that's that's what started it [Music] all Cur told me they thought it was
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someone who had done some work around her home it was suspected that he was her murderer I was very concerned because
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she was by herself a lot going to and from places I had purchased a firearm on her behalf but she didn't not have it
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before she was murdered [Music] similar patterns exist but we're looking at it from years later from all the
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pieces being put into place if you have a person that's able to gain the confidence of their victim that throws
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off an officer that throws off an investigation to look for one type of person versus the other we knew there
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was no one who even came close to having any animus against her but we thought she'd been attacked by a stranger I
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didn't think about Gina green at that time there had in fact been another murder nearby between Gina's and
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Murray's geryn Doo was killed in Addis 10 miles outside Baton Rouge the second murder Mur is as brutal
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as the first murder you have a person that can sit back and look at I was able to do the first I did the second I
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haven't been captured I haven't been caught so therefore why not go further
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with the third Jin's murder in Addis is investigated by a separate police force
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to Gina's and Murray's neither teams are aware of another similar case four years
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ago in nearby Zachary Randy M uh was a a single mother who uh lived along over there in Oak shadows
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and had a child there living with her the neighbor found her 2-year-old son wandering around outside by himself
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and knew that Randy would not have let that happen and was concerned and when they called the police the police went
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in and she was gone just absolutely gone we go inside the house there's blood all over the
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house we've seen blood in the bedroom where there was a struggle in the bedroom we seen where somebody appears
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to have been drugged throughout the house out to the door we found one of her uh contacts in the ground there like
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where she'd been beaten some more in the blood stain Randy's body was never found
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and a killer never convicted her husband was the Prime Suspect there was some violence inside the relationship he faed
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a polygraph when he fell a I wasn't convinced uh you know my thoughts were why would he leave his child there as a
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as a father myself that bothered me a lot the police are looking at the person who last saw you alive so police are
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naturally going to go to a husband a spouse a significant other first to identify where were you at the time we
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believe this crime takes place there are enough cases in which that person is the
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person that's committed the ACT but a broader thinking must take place McDavid had another suspect in mind a
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local peeping Tomy first encountered a year before ry's murder Derek toddle and
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in 1997 one of our officers said you know I've dealt with him a lot in the neighborhood where he's hanging out by
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stop signs had gloves in his hand had a knife in his pocket he said he always parked his vehicle across the street at
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the the lounge and he has a you know kind of a a cream colored uh Chevrolet pickup with some type of uh painting on
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the backo there was kind of this just you know minimization of peeping and what that meant this is a non- cont is what I
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used to hear all the time this is a non- contct you know thing to worry about without realizing that you know again in
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some respects it's kind of a Gateway and that's you know a significant number of
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people who start out peeping will will escalate or graduate to more serious offenses
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and I just told him I said I know what you're doing we don't get you sooner or
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later and we put some much his pressure on him here we know with surveillance and looking at him and he finally just
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drifted off has Derek toddle drifted away from being a suspected peeping Tom and zacher to commit murders around
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nearby Baton Rouge and will police be able to connect him to the deaths of Gina green geryn doo and Murray Pace
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before another woman is killed Gina green geryn doo and Murray Pace have been brutally killed in their own
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homes the police forces investigating the crimes are yet to establish a link or identify a
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suspect unknown to them four years prior in nearby Zachary a a young woman named
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Randy mewer had vanished police suspected a local peeping Tom had been involved Derek toddle his mom was very
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young when she had him she was 17 his dad seemed to have some very difficult psychological problems as well
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as being violent and he was incarcerated after attempting to murder his ex-wife Derek's IQ was calculated to be
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below 75 there was almost equal parts nature and nurture you know we have this person
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who is a relatively low functioning person from an IQ standpoint you know he goes to to school he's calling his
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teacher Mama He's you know developmentally delayed he gets teased about this and then I think you have
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this abuse on top of that and I think that this rage he felt is something that has been festering him for a long period
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of time Derek also grew up in a racially divided 1970s Louisiana the United States has a history in which
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race is a major part that then creates in our mind a framework of how we respond or interact with that person
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there was this town it seemed like that even though some progress had been made there was a lot of segregation and if I
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am raised in a place in which that line is drawn that these people are over here
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those people are over there that becomes my own function of life it becomes pretty clearly known
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that he has started abusing animals at a relatively early age and we know that that is a huge red
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flag not everybody who becomes a serial killer hurts animals but there certainly
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is a larger representation among individuals who hurt animals that go on to hurt
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people at age 11 Derek was is also caught peeping into his neighbor's Windows it was taken very lightly oh
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he'll outgrow it oh this is silly you know he he likes to sneak around it's a
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joke he likes to sneak around and see other people and we now know that voyerism can be a Gateway you know to
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some other pretty serious sexual behaviors because one of the things it suggests is the development of a
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paraphilia or a kind of a deviant sexual interest and going around and peeping in
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people's windows that is non-consenting behavior that end of itself as a sexual offence
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and I think at the time we thought of that back then as again harmless he was arrested for peeping for
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I mean dozens and dozens of times with no consequences [Music] whatsoever 11 years after Derek toddle
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was first arrested for peeping police are still trying to understand who killed Gina green JN doot and Murray
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Pace apparently Gina green felt that she was being watched and there were reports
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with Murray that there was somebody that was watching outside the apartment as well we wondered if he had noticed
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Murray when he killed Gina green cuz they lived on the same street and not very far from each other I think he did
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surveillance on them where he watched them and figured out their routines and saw what they were doing
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[Music] 6 weeks after the murder of Murray Pace the police have a breakthrough DNA
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testing confirms that Gina's murderer is the same as Murray's but Derek toddle
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isn't a suspect he mystified law enforcement and there was a prevailing Theory at the time that serial killers
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were white and and there are reasons to follow this Frame of Mind the victims are white and usually we find crime
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stays in one 's race you put those together serial murders traditionally are white persons that you have the
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wrong person being searched for in this case with no leads in their search for the killer the local police forces ask
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the FBI for help one of the resources that the state and local law enforcement were really
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interested in was our profiling unit from quanico uh they wanted them to weigh in and be able to tell them what
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type of unknown offender we were looking for and so we brought in the uh profilers and they basically created a
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profile of an unknown offender they did that by reviewing uh the crime scenes extensively talking to the detectives
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they were looking for evidence of the offender's Behavior prior to the incident during the actual crime and
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also any kind of post offense Behavior they may have engaged in to get away with the crime and things like that
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the FBI Behavioral Unit releases a criminal profile of Murray and Gina's [Music]
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murderer the profilers felt like the attacks were not what we would classify as a blitz attack which are surprise
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attacks the profilers felt like there would have to be some type of interaction that occurred before these
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attacks actually occurred he would have a demeanor that would be very unassuming
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and that would not trigger people to think that he was suspicious in any way shape or form until it was too
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late profilers also surmised that the offender would be someone who didn't take rejection well any hint of
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resistance when he goes in and he completely I think escalates and you know the level of
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violence as some of these crime scenes was just horrific clearly indicating this wasn't just about sex it was about
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power rage domination and control there was so much violence associated with his
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crimes that I think that rage completely took over him when he was no situations he thought he was going to
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easily rape Murray and then when she fought back he couldn't take the rejection or that's our Theory and um
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then he just lost it and stabbed her 81 times the profilers felt like this unknown offender was following the
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investigation in the media and any significant releases in the media they felt like would cause him a great degree
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of distress and or anger you can imagine for several months he's thinking hm I'm
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not hearing about that they're looking for someone with my character istics wow
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this could give someone a pass to say I can do more criminal activities he would have been aware that
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people were hearing about a repeat offender in the community but I also feel like there was this compulsive
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nature in him that was very very strong and that overrode any real sense of danger now it's very
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interesting even though these warning signs by the police and Public Safety are saying that this person is out there
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that he stays relatively in the same area this again is a factor of maybe there was something very much rooted in
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his place where he grew up his environment where he grew up and wanting to do something about this rage or these
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feelings that he has in his mind has him stay in this area to continue to commit
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these crimes the day after the DNA breakthrough the killer appears to strike again this time
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the victim survives Diane Alexander was a nurse that lived in brobridge and she was in the house and
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somebody knocked at the door and he asked if she knew someone and he gave her a name she said no I don't know him
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he said well ask your husband and she said well I you know I'm not married and
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that's when he flipped that's when he pushed his way in the door he took a
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phone cord and cut part of it and was about to strangle her with the phone cord when he heard her son driving up
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the gravel road and when that happened he took off the profilers felt like this unknown
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offender had a great deal of impulsivity which is essentially not caring about the outcomes of their action the the
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need is so great they don't care about what happens afterwards and based upon
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that they felt like his impulsivity would have made him come into contact with law enforcement at some point prior
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including various things with breaking and entering and also potentially peeping and things like
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that Diane Alexander worked with the police to generate a sketch of the suspect this time the suspect Bears a
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resemblance to Derek toddle but toddle is unknown to local police 3 Days Later a fifth woman is
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murdered mured pam kinamore pam was 44 years old again like all of these women beautiful successful
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Independent Women she lived out on um Brierwood in Baton Rouge that night she was Home Alone the bath water was run
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and she you know she had everything laid out for a bath and so I don't know if
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she had been in it or was about to when he came in and she she was just gone the only thing that was left behind
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was some blood spots particularly on a living room rug her body was later found dumped in
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Marshland under an Interstate 35 mil from Baton Rouge she had been left for 3 Days in
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the hot Louisiana son so she had decomposed somewhat but there was still DNA on her
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body he had raped her and the DNA was [Music] there when the DNA that was on the first
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two victims matched the DNA that was on Pam it just changed everything we had a serial
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killer it opened the door to a world and it it's a hotter darker sharper edged
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place than you ever imagined the world to be the world is never ever the [Music]
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same Pam kenmore's decomposing body has been found police quickly have a breakthrough a truck driver claims he'd
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seen a naked woman in the passenger seat of a white pickup truck on the day Pam kinamore was abducted he believes the
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pickup was being driven by a white male and so that just stuck that just that became the the number one suspect
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you know that was the description that everyone would looked for for a very long
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time I think they had in their mind who this person is and unfortunately I think
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that clouded their judgment and caused them to ignore you know some of the clues that were there
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I remember hearing on the news that there was one man who wrote I am not the serial killer on the side of his white
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truck that was the clue to Nowhere absolutely the clue to nowhere but confusion everybody was talking about it
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all the time and people were taking self-defense classes they were you know they were learning how to shoot guns um
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making sure they had mace everybody was taking Extraordinary Measures and for good reason with Pam kenmore's murder
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the killer had upped the ante that's when he started actually removing people
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removing the women um before killing them he's picking different women in different jurisdictions he's killing
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them in different ways so how do you search for somebody like that how do you know when the next where he's going to
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hit next and how he's going to hit next the eyewitness report means police are
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focusing their search on a white suspect another factor is how the victims seemed
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willing to open the door to their killer I think it's a demeanor I think it a
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presentation that allows to put people at Comfort levels that allow them to allow guards to go down a step or two
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and move forward but I think opportunity applied with his charm coming together his looks coming together his
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youthfulness at the time coming together that make for these crimes to take place
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that's what made it so difficult we were not looking for someone that had some
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kind of massive deformity or that looked like a demon or a vampire we're looking
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for someone who's part of society uh the profile mentions that uh there's a good
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chance that uh he would live with uh other people potentially a Paramore in that respect his life could be more or
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less normal from the outside but on the inside Derek Todd ley's life is anything but normal
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his wife mistress and sister have all filed charges of domestic violence and Battery against
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him so far every victim of the Baton Rouge serial killer has been white until November 21st
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2002 Trisha da colom had recently lost her mother and was grief stricken she visited her mother's grave
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every day and she was out there alone a hunter found her just discarded in in the brush
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she had been beaten badly um about her face and um again she was she was raped as
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well for David McDavid DA's murder gives him another reason to suspect Derek
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toddle he remembers a rainy night in 1993 when two kids were attacked in a graveyard in Zachary there was a thing
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around Zachary go in the graveyard make out and stuff and they were doing that in the graveyard and Suspect come across
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from the area of the sub Vision into the graveyard had a big old can blade on him
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and saw them in the in the car and began hacking them up with the cane blade luckily one of our police officers saw a
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dome light on the car and drove in there and he ran off to the north nor both victims survived and worked with police
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to generate a sketch of the as [Music] salant un be known us the statue of limitations I ran out on that case when
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we went to get the warrant sign I was denied on that case but the police investigating the murders of Gina gern
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Murray Pam and Trisha are not aware of this historic case in Zachary I think he was just elusive nobody knew really what
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was going on you know that's something I learned throughout the case was you know
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try to have open mind and work together cuz you never know who holds that piece of pie I think the problem was we we
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would wouldn't really sharing information like we should with five murdered women a task
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force of local state and federal agencies continue their desperate search over 20,000 tips are pouring in
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over a thousand men are swabbed everyone in Louisiana is on the lookout for an elusive white killer in a white truck
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you had people calling in tips they were asked to calling tips either an abusive
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boyfriend who drove a white truck or who might have been of some kind of violence
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or domestic violence cases involving females in that and it was a wide net this is where police work is essential
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the human element has to be involved in deciding how many of these leads are you
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going to look into with that attention you gain the ability to solve this crime but you also gain the difficulty of
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separating the good from the bad related to the case oh it went on forever every
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Friday we thought we had our guy was like okay this guy drives a y pickup truck he's got a bad history of domestic
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violence or this or that um his behavior is very strange and the people around him think he's the serial killer and
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then there would be you know somebody else would be killed and it was just it was
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[Applause] horrendous sometime in probably the uh late winter early spring of uh 2003 uh
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we had a meeting with members from the Acadiana crime lab and they told us about a company in Florida that told
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them they could take a DNA sample and determine essentially the racial or geographic region where they came from
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that would help with determining race it's Cutting Edge science but is yet to be fully vetted we ended up
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making a decision we obtained uh samples from various members of the task force various investigators and we sent those
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uh blind samples unmarked samples down to the company and after a short time they came back and uh they nailed every
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single person we had sent them with regards to their potential racial characteristics the lab was then sent
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the DNA of the unknown killer they identified him as African American I was surprised but only for a
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short time it basically gave an explanation to me as to why all the people and all the leads we've been
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following up on were really not coming to anything uh because most of those were for uh Caucasian uh males he
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probably does take a moment of pause to say okay something is happening with this case that's moving this case closer
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to me but I still have this urge inside of me to do these criminal activities and so he has to decide and he keeps
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going with this here so that's where we have to believe believe that the urge is
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stronger than rationale after a year and a half long Killing Spree the FBI are closing in on
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their Prime Suspect cuttingedge DNA testing has confirmed the suspect as African-American and David McDavid is
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raising his suspicions about Derek toddle the suspected graveyard attacker and peeping Tom who vanished from nearby
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Zachary a few years before the murders we went back and looked at some of the cases that he was involved in if
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you go back and look there was a burglary across the street in 1992 the homeowner came home and caught him in
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the house and asked him what he was doing there he claimed he was looking for somebody and in 1993 case of the two
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kids in the graveyard come up down his 7even the Peeping time in the neighborhood and in 1998 we had the
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murder of Randy mewer so that kind of told us then that you know Derek tyy was our guy we were looking at him
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disturbing details soon come to light about his life one of the things we start seeing among people who become
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serial killers later is in adolescence what we call this adolescent hypersexuality it means there becomes
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this compulsive nature to their sexuality it becomes a coping mechanism for them it becomes a drive for them so
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it's almost like it it takes on a life of its own and that person feels a need
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to go out and Peep or do whatever things particularly when they're under stress
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or they have some kind of problem in their environment and we do know that that Derek toddle oftentimes there was a
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a pretty short period of time between him getting fired for jobs for example or having arguments and there being
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these these murders [Music] [Music] with the net closing another woman is [Music]
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murdered car Yoder was a an LSU student she was actually getting her PhD I think
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in Marine Biology she lived in a little house close to campus I believe she just unloaded
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groceries and brought her groceries in and I don't know if he followed her in
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or somehow got in her house and took her again she just disappeared they found her body like 10
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days later again by whiskey Bay another month passes then on May 5th police obtain a court order to swab
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Derek toddle for DNA I believe uh Derek Todd Le's biggest mistake was leaving
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his DNA at the uh crime scenes uh maybe uh he didn't know much about it he wasn't sophisticated enough to know
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about it well what happened was is we got our DNA we know we got a got signed by judge
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he asked me and another officer to do surveillance on his house and DK T was back and forth he was running around
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town we finally called him back at the house and they brought him inside look we got the subpoena showed it to him got
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us swabbed and uh you know we submitted it to the crime lab with the DNA sample taken McDavid
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has to wait for days to find out if Derk toddle is the killer I think it was on a Sunday just
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got through cutting grass at my house and got a call from the task force look we need you down here well what's going
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on well we'll tell you when you get down here I received a call I believe on a
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Sunday afternoon uh from the uh command post and I was told that the Louisiana State Police crime lab had matched a
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swab with our unknown offenders DNA profile when I walked in you had all these dignitaries here bunch of
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investigators there high ranking officials they said well y'all DNA they just solved the C killer
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case which was a big relief when I heard that there had been a match I was elated
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but I also understood that there was more work to do and that was locating him and placing him under arrest I said
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oo I said y'all better catch him if he knows that you after him which he probably does I said he's about to he's
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trolling he's about to kill again I spent that uh evening dictating an affidavit for a fugitive arrest warrant
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and that was based on the fact that we had problem cause that he had LED from Louisiana to avoid being prosecuted for
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these crimes Jeff's fears were correct Derek toddle tries to evade arrest my biggest concern uh after we
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realized that he had fled the state of Louisiana is that that he may have killed someone else in another state the
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time Factor was still there because now I knew he was on the Run knowing that we
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were going to eventually find out and it was simple matter of him trying to stay
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away from us as much as he possibly could they asked us to come on board help try to track him down went to
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Chicago came back and went to Atlanta was setting up in an apartment over there to me the heat was on him here so
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he had to go somewhere else he was about to you know start killing again I had heard that you know he' been
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arrested I don't know if I heard on the news or I got a phone call I was relieved we were all lady when we found
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out that Derek toddle had been arrested in Atlanta and we knew that come hell or
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high water he was going to be coming back to Louisiana to face Justice for what he had
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done I was so shocked that he looked so ordinary you you'd think someone who
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could do that kind of thing would be marked in some way you know would have some sort of
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scarlet letter that would identify them but no they don't they don't at all in custody Derek Todd Le doesn't
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confess to his crimes or explain how he chose his victims police plan to try him
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separately for each of the seven murders I think that the police were willing to try him for every single of
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those seven until they got the death penalty the benefit of going with one case is that if something goes wrong
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this monster is never going to be on the street again because we'll indict the
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next one and then we'll indict the next one we will always have a safety net toddle first faces trial for the
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murder of geraline Doo the charge in jyn Doo's case was second gr murder and he was found guilty
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as charged he receives a life sentence the trial for the murder of Charlotte Murray pace is
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next the trial was long it was I think five weeks weeks the physical evidence was strong the DNA evidence was really
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strong and uh the jury didn't have a problem with it they came back quickly with a a verdict of guilty and then we
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did the penalty phase and they found that um the appropriate penalty was the death
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penalty he never confessed he never showed a bit of remorse he was just just kind of like a blank slate over
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there I remember saying well we finally come to the end of it and I remember thinking we just begun that had just
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that was nowhere near the end in a way we were as imprisoned as he was but on January 21st
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2016 the case meets its ultimate end Derek toddle dies of heart disease so the victims are just left
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with this open wound and being stuck in this perpetual incomplete hell it was almost like you
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couldn't almost as much as you couldn't imagine the murders you couldn't imagine
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that he had died you know he lives his life to the end and he never faces the Executioner
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well this is what I tell everybody the real true judge has got him now and he got judged by that by God and that's who
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ultimate made the the sentence for him I think he's in hell to be honest with you
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uh you know what he did and how he did it was just truly violent he killed a total of seven victims that we can prove
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through [Music] DNA before this happened I didn't worry if my back door locked I felt safe and
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Rose I felt secure and all of a sudden that safe feeling is gone so I think that that was
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taken away by Derek toddle and I you know I don't know that it ever returns I haven't slept in a bed in 20
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years I kept coming home and got in the bed that used to be her bed and I kept having a dream that she was
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uh on the autopsy table covered with a sheet and of course she couldn't move or
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anything but somehow she was sending me a message that said Mama come get me Mama come get
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me and I couldn't sleep in there anymore so I sleep on the sofa with the TV on so I
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don't ever wake up in the dark without a voice somewhere murder challenges everything you ever thought
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you believed every assumption you ever had it it is an almost unsurvivable loss [Music]
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