A Terrific Interview - Jesse Cramer on "The Struggle is Real" - E45
- Jan 28, 2024
- 57:01
- Full Episode
Big thanks to Justin Peters, from The Struggle is Real podcast, for allowing me to share this episode. A few months ago, Justin and I sat down to discuss helping young adults with their personal finances. We had a great conversation, which I want to share with you in its entirety!
If you're curious to learn more, check out Justin's Show Notes below:
If you're paying attention to your portfolio right now, you know the stock market has been on a nosedive, and if you're anything like me, this market drop has you feeling discouraged.
I continue doing all the right things. I maxed out my IRA, I'm dollar cost averaging through my 401K, and even investing my net earnings in my brokerage account.
All of this yet I'm still seeing my net worth go backwards. I'm beginning to question if investing my money is still the right thing to do.
Well luckily my friend Jesse Cramer is here to talk me off the ledge. It could be investing for your future or changing your career path to align with your passion. Jesse reminded me that the right choice doesn't always create short-term success but over the long-run, it will.
Aside from being my personal therapist, Jesse has had a ton of success in creating his personal finance blog, The Best Interest. His writing has also been featured in CNBC, MSN, the Motley Fool, Yahoo Finance, and more.
Jesse started The Best Interest blog in 2018 when he was working as an engineer but over the last year, realizing how much passion he had for personal finance, he made a career pivot and now works for a wealth management firm.
If you are considering changing careers to align more with your passion, this will be a great episode to listen to. Jesse shares his thought process behind his decision even though it meant taking a pay cut (for now).
We get into a lot of money conversation as well including the financial order of operations, investing in the market vs investing in yourself, and a useful thought process called the success to stress ratio. From my "lost and confused" to my senior investors, this episode has something for everyone.
Key Takeaways:
- How Jesse went from being lost with finances to a personal finance blogger
- Why Jesse took a pay cut to switch careers
- Why making the right choice now will lead to success in the long-run even if in the short-term it doesn't pay off
- Using the financial order of operation to get started investing
- Should I invest or pay off debt first? What about investing in a business?
- How to get started budgeting
- Success to stress ratio
- What Dave Ramsey got right about credit cards (absolute rules)
- Merging money with your significant other
Mentions:
Joel O'Leary on TSIR (Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/financial-blogger-on-how-happiness-and-investing-your/id1496701179?i=1000514908874) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Emz5OoPsey6dbOEc580vt) )
Darren Chait on TSIR (Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/meetings-no-1-time-waster-at-the-office-and-how-to/id1496701179?i=1000560035228) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/episode/1exOs16wAR5BHCrwgsYEfw) )
More of Justin & The Struggle is Real:
Show Notes: https://justinpeters.co/thestruggleisreal/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justinleepeters/
More of The Best Interest:
Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog (https://bestinterest.blog/)
Contact me at [email protected]
The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Brief Summary
Jesse Kramer shares his journey from engineering to personal finance, discussing budgeting, investing strategies, and insights on marriage and money management.
Key points
- Justin Peters' Squash Story. Justin shares a memorable moment from his squash career that highlights unexpected talent.
- The Plutus Award Nomination. Jesse reflects on his surreal nomination for the Plutus Award and its impact on his motivation.
- Career Change Reflection. Jesse discusses his transition from engineering to finance and the challenges involved.
- The Importance of Trust in Finance. Jesse emphasizes the role of trust in building client relationships in his new job.
- Financial Order of Operations. A structured approach to personal finance for beginners, focusing on budgeting and investing.
- Paying Off High-Interest Debt. Prioritizing high-interest debt can be more beneficial than investing.
Episode highlights
- Justin Peters' Squash StoryJustin shares a memorable moment from his squash career that highlights unexpected talent.“I just go for it and I hit like to this day the best nick of my life.”3:07Jan 28, 2024
- The Plutus Award NominationJesse reflects on his surreal nomination for the Plutus Award and its impact on his motivation.“The Plutus award nomination is a little surreal.”7:37Jan 28, 2024
- Career Change ReflectionJesse discusses his transition from engineering to finance and the challenges involved.“I took a pay cut to switch careers.”13:55Jan 28, 2024
- The Importance of Trust in FinanceJesse emphasizes the role of trust in building client relationships in his new job.“I think I am trustworthy and I think I can help people understand that.”15:03Jan 28, 2024
- Financial Order of OperationsA structured approach to personal finance for beginners, focusing on budgeting and investing.“The financial order of operations is useful for both beginning investors and anyone starting their personal finance journey.”20:51Jan 28, 2024
- Paying Off High-Interest DebtPrioritizing high-interest debt can be more beneficial than investing.“Paying off credit card debt is the next smartest thing you can do with your money.”22:54Jan 28, 2024
- Success to Stress RatioMaximize financial success while minimizing stress through effective budgeting.“I want to help people find as much success as they possibly can without necessarily stressing over it.”37:01Jan 28, 2024
- The Stress of SuccessBalancing success and stress in personal finance is crucial for well-being.“Let's increase the success as much as we can while keeping the stress relatively low.”38:37Jan 28, 2024





