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Could Donald Trump's Madison Square Garden Rally Swing the Election? | Pivot

October 29, 2024 / 09:32

This episode discusses Donald Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden, featuring Melania Trump, Elon Musk, and comedian Tony Hinchcliffe. The rally included controversial remarks about Puerto Ricans, Jews, and other groups, with speakers making offensive comments.

Elon Musk's choice of a Nazi font hat and David Ram's description of Vice President Harris as the Antichrist sparked outrage. The hosts reflect on the implications of such rhetoric, particularly in relation to the upcoming elections.

The conversation highlights how the rally's tone and content could motivate voters, particularly Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania, to engage politically. The hosts express concern over the potential normalization of hate speech and the impact it may have on undecided voters.

They also discuss the role of comedians like Tony Hinchcliffe, criticizing his jokes about Puerto Rico as poorly timed and offensive. The episode concludes with reflections on the historical significance of the rally's location, near the Statue of Liberty, and the values it represents.

TL;DR

Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden featured offensive remarks and sparked discussions on hate speech and its electoral implications.

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Donald Trump's rally at Madison Square
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Garden on Sunday was full of racism
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sexism and profanity uh it included
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speeches from Melania Trump which was
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calm by comparison Elon Musk who was
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wearing a hat that used Nazi font that
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was nice and a Trump's childhood friend
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David Ram who called vice president
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Harris the Antichrist speakers at the
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rally uh also made insulting comments
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towards Puerto Ricans Jews and Hispanics
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in his speech including calling Puerto
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Rico a pile of garbage which was a comic
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I get it but it wasn't funny and of
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course everything was vetted in his
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speech Trump said the US is uh quote now
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an occupied country and again describe
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Democrats as the enemy from within which
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JDM spent a lot of time pretending he
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didn't say um what do you think about
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that rally it was I mean I know why he
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did it because he loves attention and he
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wants to dunk on people but that was
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felt like that 1939 Nazi rally that was
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at the Madison Square Garden it was very
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strange I thought actually the energy i
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i to the Republicans credit I thought
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them turning out that many people and
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sort of what is arguably the bluest of
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blue in Manhattan was a good move I was
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shocked how much energy there was how
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many Trump supporters there are in
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Manhattan and I realize you can take a
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train they're not from Manhattan come on
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well they were in Manhattan um yeah and
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but I look I I thought it was generally
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speaking the
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turnout was positive I think that and I
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might be over estimating it but I think
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we might have our uh October surprise
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that helps the Democrats and that is uh
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I think his name is Tony Hinchcliffe the
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comedian yeah yeah well that's a broad
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term he's one of those people that moved
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to Austin to be around Joe Rogan one of
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those hanger Hors but go ahead well he
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is a comedian and I generally believe
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that comedians deserve a really wide
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birth and art is what was it Andy bhal
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said art is getting away with it I like
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it when comedians are irreverent even
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inappropriate in the context of trying
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to soften the beach and get us to think
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and I I I cut them a really wide birth I
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think Dave Chappelle has said some
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offensive things but Bill Burr when he
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talks about he's a pro-life guy but when
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he talks about he makes you know if just
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because a pie is Half Baked doesn't make
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it a pie I think these are I think
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comedians actually play a really
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important role Michelle wolf who
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offended a lot of people okay can I
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finish yeah thank you well Michelle wolf
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makes what a lot of people think is
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offensive comments I think we cut her a
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wide birth this guy his joke about
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Puerto Rico being a you know a big pile
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of trash in the ocean it not only didn't
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land it was just so incredibly
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tactically stupid at this point in time
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because in
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Pennsylvania there are 400,000 Puerto
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Ricans and if just 5 or 10,000 of them
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get motiv ated not even to switch their
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vote but to vote for Harris and actually
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kind of souls to the Po's feet to the
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street that could swing the entire
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election and I thought what he said was
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so it just landed so poorly and it was
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so really offensive there was nothing
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funny about it it was just sort of
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feeding into this Zeitgeist that Trump
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is just deep down his DNA is racist and
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he's not your guy unless you're are you
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know from northern Europe it it is
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exactly and I don't know if you saw this
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but immediately post the rally every
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Republican who's running for something
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dist themselves from the comments well
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you know I I'm agreeing with you on look
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it landed in the room of energetic
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people who I'm Sor in the
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room in any case it wasn't funny I don't
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mind irreverent Comics if they're funny
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this wasn't funny and also it was vetted
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by the Trump people oh was yes it didn't
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just do it off the top it was in a
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teleprompter they knew what was coming
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so they knew what he was saying they
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could have easily said look Joe or
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whatever his Tony whatever his unfunny
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name is um they could have said you know
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what dial it back on the it just was he
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totally wanted to do it so he could get
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liberals going oh my God you believe
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that that that's that that's their
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favorite juvenile tactic in order to get
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people mad but it was just pathetic and
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especially since that was the and it
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didn't just end with that it was was
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like a range of things about Jews about
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none of which were funny like I get it I
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get the idea that Comics should be funny
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and you they should be able to say
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things even David Chappelle and I think
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he goes on and on about trans people in
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a way that's not funny but um ultimately
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it's initially it's funny and then it's
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not um because he overdoes it by by an
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hour at least but um that's his business
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if he wants to do that um in this case
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the T it's time and place right they did
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not have to have this guy there and he
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wasn't funny and he's H and sure he's a
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comic but it's a that's a broad term for
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this fell if I went back and looked at
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his stuff he's just unfunny he's just
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wildly unfunny as a comic not very
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talented so why pick him but it wasn't
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just him it was his friend it was
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calling Hillary Clinton a or
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something like that it just went on and
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chucker Carlson is so strange I don't
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even know what to say Elon wearing you
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know Nazi font on his hat like they were
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just all trying to like get the libs
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going which is their favorite thing and
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they're tasteless and horrible people I
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don't know I'm sorry I just you could
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attract all kinds of people to I've been
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in Madison Square Garden with
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conservative groups when there's sports
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events where there's wrestling it's like
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it it that whole area attracts lots of
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different people so I'm not surprised he
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got people there it's only 19,000 people
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by the way that fit in um anyway I think
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it does turn off undecided voters and
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it's just typical of what we're going to
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get if he wins this is going to be a
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Non-Stop hate Fest um and let's tell
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stupid jokes about women's boobs for
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four years or and black people and what
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black people in watermelons are we back
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to that that joke black people in
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watermelons it's so funny yeah but just
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just tactically speaking as we go into
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the last eight days it it I'm I'm
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focused on how she you know what happens
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here like who actually wins and the the
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races the the dog whistles the weirdness
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the awkwardness the inappropriate I feel
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like the market is already absorbed that
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I'm speaking very tactically there are
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400,000 Puerto Ricans in
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Pennsylvania if 5,000 of them decide to
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get off the couch who were going to
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support Harris but maybe might not have
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made it to the polls see that and
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everyone seeing that clip get motivated
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to turn out it could literally decide
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who's President and for just I think
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it's our I care I think it's our October
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surprise I think that I think you're
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going to hear that guy Tony hinch
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Cliff's name a lot more I think that was
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the October surprise because there's
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400,000 Puerto Ricans in
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Pennsylvania also Bad Bunny suddenly uh
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who's one of the most famous bans 45
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million followers JLo like and they're
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all gonna you you're going to see so
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much on Tik Tok yeah they um it was
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interesting Mike Madrid who writes about
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Latin uh he wrote a great book on Latin
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voters Latino voters um said that it's
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just going crazy it's sort of suddenly
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has been like I don't know why people
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don't get this this guy's a full-on
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racist Donald Trump is anyway I'm sure
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he thought it was funny he said
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something earlier in the podcast I
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didn't realize I've just been blissfully
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ignorant over the past over this weekend
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he he had you think that the the font on
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his hat was purposely reminiscent of
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Nazi propaganda it just happened to be I
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looked at it it's called factor or
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something like that it's it's a it's a
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font it's it's a on his hat uh look like
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it look like the Nazi font to me anyway
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um uh you know I always think of this
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the thing that really got me I'll tell
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you was that that they did this Madison
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and we'll finish up with this the
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Madison Square Garden thing just miles
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from the Statue of Liberty right where
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on the Statue of Liberty there's a poem
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which is called um uh what's it called
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it's called um The New Colossus right
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it's a sonnet by Emma Lazarus right she
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wrote the poem in 1883
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to raise money for construction of it
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and the last part keep your ancient
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lands your storied pomp cry she with
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Silent Lips give me you're tired you're
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poor your huddled mass is yearning to
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breathe free this is the part I think is
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important The Wretched refuse of your
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teeming Shore send these the homeless
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Tempest tossed to me I lift my lamp
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besides the golden door I mean honestly
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what is my grandfather came in on that
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on a ship he was a wretched refug he was
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nobody and he made a company he he
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raised children um you know it's
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just it's so depressing it's so
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depressing to watch these people thank
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you that's my poetry um we're going to
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move on H that's why I'm really bothered
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by this um it's just grotesque I think
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and they're so they're so lucky these
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people who are doing this they're so
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rich they're so they've got everything
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and they still can't be generous it's
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astonishing and they're so hateful

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Episode Highlights

  • Offensive Comments on Puerto Rico
    A speaker's derogatory remarks about Puerto Rico sparked outrage.
    “Calling Puerto Rico a pile of garbage was tactically stupid.”
    @ 00m 16s
    October 29, 2024
  • Trump's Rally at Madison Square Garden
    A rally filled with controversial remarks and a charged atmosphere.
    “It felt like that 1939 Nazi rally.”
    @ 00m 54s
    October 29, 2024
  • The Role of Comedians in Politics
    Discussion on the impact of comedians' remarks in the political landscape.
    “Comedians play a really important role, but this wasn't funny.”
    @ 02m 22s
    October 29, 2024

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  • Nazi Font Hat00:10
  • Historical Comparison00:54
  • Offensive Humor02:38
  • Cultural Reflection09:16

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