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let's get to our first big story as one
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headline put it this week Mark
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Zuckerberg and meta are finding new ways
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to kiss Trump's ass I would move around
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to the front actually in that one that
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followed Zuckerberg announcing on
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Tuesday that meta is ending its
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factchecking program essentially meta's
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platforms will instead use Community
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note system similar to X that will
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apparently quote reduce censorship rules
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on hate speech are being loosened if you
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look at what they've done it's an
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astonishing thing the things they've
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taken out and meta's content moderation
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team will be moved from California in
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Texas where there is less concern about
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bias cuz Texas people have no bias I've
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never seen it ever Texas people won't
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shut up about Texas to start with anyway
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uh Zuckerberg shared a video explained
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his decision unfortunately I have to
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listen to him so let's listen the recent
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elections also feel like a cultural
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Tipping Point towards once again
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prioritizing speech so we're going to
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get back to our roots and focus on
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reducing mistakes simplifying our
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policies and restoring free expression
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on our platforms I'm going to let you
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stop start Scott because you had you
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went on Morning Joe and had quite a
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moment I did the same thing over on the
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BB on the be in London but go ahead tell
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me your thoughts we're moving to a the
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the keys to a thriving democracy are
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three-fold you have to have strong
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institutions that people respect you
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have to have shared stories that we're
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the good guys and we want World War II
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for the right reasons and Americans
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hearts are in the right place and
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believe in the founding fathers and the
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rights of people
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and and you also have to have kind of a
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lot of Social Capital within smaller
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networks whether it's your church or
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your neighbors or maybe you served you
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know how you feel about people who also
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served in the Marines or whatever it
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might be and slowly but surely social
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media is eroding all of those things and
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this is just another example of how
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those three things will continue to come
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down um and be eroded you have somewhere
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between a half and two-thirds of
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Americans depending on their age now get
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their news from social media
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and today when I was on Morning Joe I
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called Trump an insurrectionist and a
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rapist M had to stop the show and say
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that Trump was found liable for sexual
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abuse now imagine in contrast what
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you're going to be able to say about
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anything Health elections what you
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should
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do uh when a fire breaks out in the
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Pacific Palisades on on meta I mean we
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are all going into we are all separating
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further and further and to think that
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this doesn't have not only implications
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around candidates or politics but
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violence look what happen in 2017
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Myanmar everything there was violence
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against the rohinga in myanamar in a
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year later there were rumors circulated
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on WhatsApp unfettered and people were
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being pulled out of cars in small towns
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in India and hanged because of rumors
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around uh kidnappings I mean this
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remember pizz gate that's started on
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social media so four years ago he called
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it uh moderation now they call it
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censorship and I got to give it to the
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guy I do think he's a brilliant
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businessman he said okay this guy has
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threatened to put me in jail I'm going
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to turn chicken [ __ ] and turn it into
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chicken salad and come up with a way to
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please him and potentially R reduce up
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to5 Billion of costs in the Safety and
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Security team the move to Texas is
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actually not political it's a means of
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quiet firing 30 to 60% of the staff cuz
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they won't move and if you take say he
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saves three or four of that5 billion it
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trades at a p of 30 30 Time 4 120
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billion owns 50 he just made another $18
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billion while managing to kiss Mark
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Zuckerberg's ass and no Donald Trump's
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I'm sorry Excuse me while while managing
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to kiss even more no one wants to kiss
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Mark Zucker br's ass and just a larger
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Point here and the point I made on Joe
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Scarboro is broken my indignant self
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preachy self my question is the
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following where are the [ __ ]
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men where are the
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men that recognize okay I've made tens
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of billions of dollars here I lead a
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remarkable life uh my kids have
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incredible opportunity I have a broader
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selection set of mates than I deserve
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people laugh at my jokes I'm going to I
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get to dress like this I'm going to live
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five or 10 years longer than most people
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I get to do remarkable things because of
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this operating system
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called America and the blessings of
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America and yet I have abs [ __ ]
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lutely no Fidelity to those
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values what is the point of having this
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much money and this much power if you
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have to bend the knee to a kleptocrat
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but it's more than that let me just say
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let me do my little rant now because
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it's more than just bending the knee of
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course he's doing his self-interest and
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his business interest which is always
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Mark someone was like I think it was on
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Pi Morgan he's like are you surprised
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I'm like no no this is what he's like
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this is what I've told you he's like for
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for know I wrote a piece in the New York
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Times where I was like this guy is the
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most dangerous person on the planet like
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he is he has Amplified and weaponized
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everything and then he doesn't want to
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take responsibility let me tell you I've
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talked to a lot of people inside uh
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Facebook and meta they are sick to their
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stomach Mark just so you know I know
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Joel Kaplan is is kissing your ass to
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get the job that he got but let let me
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just be clear so many people called me
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to this past week the the first person
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who was this first PR person was like we
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got to get off threads now like I've had
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so many calls sick to their stomach
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seems to to do it and they should be
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sick to their stomach because you are a
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sad and Shameless Weather Vein in four
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more years if the Democrats take over
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you're going to shift again because
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that's what you do you have no values
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whatsoever and one of I thought will
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Ramos did a great piece in the
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Washington Post well places where he
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cite he goes Mark Zucker cited a
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cultural Tipping Point to justify
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dumping fact checks and relax ing hate
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speech rules um meta ending fact checks
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in the US made headlines but the real
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ball game here is a broader repudiation
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of the idea that a company is
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responsible for bad stuff on its
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platform as Zuckerberg puts it bad stuff
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Mark you don't bad stuff what he thinks
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he's going to like like stub a toe these
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PE people you put people in danger um
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the company never really wanted that
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responsibility and Trump's election
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allows them to shrug it off and and and
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they never wanted to that's the thing is
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first of all these fact checking systems
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do make mistakes so does community notes
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so does AI but you have to employ if you
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want to build your [ __ ] social media
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Network you need to have all of them at
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work and to impune these fact checkers
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by the way they have conservative fact
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Checkers they're not all libtards Mark
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sorry they're from conservative
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Publications if you want to do that you
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need fact Checkers that make mistakes
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and then you correct them you need um
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you need AI you need Community noes to
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wholly Embrace what they're doing at
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Twitter on top of it with X is repulsive
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Mark he hates you just so you know they
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laugh at you behind your back in front
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of your back they laugh at you and and
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and the fact that he cannot he switches
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his tune I've had conversations where he
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says Cara AI was going to do this
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someday Cara Community is going to do
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this Cara moderation is going to do this
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I don't believe a word coming out of
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your mouth anymore honestly you're you
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say Mundus [ __ ] all the time Scott and I
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got to tell you it's exactly what's
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happening here now secondly when he put
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UFC um CEO and Trump crony Dana White on
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the board that also upset people inside
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the company and they tamped down the
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criticism on internal Facebook boards
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among employees because this guy was was
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SE was caught on a videot type hitting
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his wife um his wife hit him but I spent
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years years T talking to my sons about
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never hitting a woman no matter what if
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she hits you I don't care right this
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these are the people he's bringing onto
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the board of of of meta right now
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because he happens to like doing you
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know MMA and by the way Mark the reason
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all those MMA fighters hang with you is
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because you're rich they don't think
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you're that good they it's great to hang
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out with a rich person and I'm glad
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you're doing it I'm hoping you're having
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fun but this the whole thing couldn't
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get worse except for what Amazon did
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about giving melan a $40 million no that
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wasn't even as bad and these when these
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guard rails are removed it is going to
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be disastrous for for people Scott take
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over on your Indy please well I just I I
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feel a need to just fact Tech myself and
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and disclose that on the
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international um markets around meta I
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do believe they're going to maintain
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some fact checking and Safety and
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Security because I do recognize that
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there's real danger overseas for people
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the the the I mean this has so many
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negative ramifications one of which
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being that news
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when they say smart mtic and Dominion
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have been weaponized in an election and
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they knew that was not true and decided
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to put it out anyways or promote it
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because they knew it would tickle the
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censors of their viewers and then
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Dominion says you have defamed us
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because this has hurt our business and
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you knew you were lying and the courts
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say yes this is qualifies as defamation
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you have to pay them $774
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million and and then iger's worried
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about a suit from the president
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retribution from the president and ABC
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has to pay the companies that are now
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having to spend a ton of money on
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moderation and are chilled and scared
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and have to stop an interview with me
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because I call someone a rapist instead
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of a sexual
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abuser folks be careful slow your role
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everyone from News Corp from The Wall
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Street Journal to the BBC to Wikipedia
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to The Washington Post they're all
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shrinking and going away and there's
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been all these articles recently about
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some anchors including anchors we know
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and love having to take pay cuts so
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congratulations your Lam stream media is
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going extinct and you're going to have
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to get all of your news from social
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media which is a [ __ ] food fight
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around which ever algorithm grabs the
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most novel I.E conspiracy I.E false
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narrative to punch out there I mean
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these traditional media Outlets do play
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an important role and they are having
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their wind pipes are being crushed right
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now
