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things are getting messy at open AI
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again oh man is this the most like telen
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Nolla of a Company the company had other
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high-profile departure again this week
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with the resignation of yan Leica uh the
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head of super alignment which is the
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team focused on AI safety that's the
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words we're going to be all super
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aligned uh Leica explained his departure
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in a series of social media posts saying
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in part that open AI safety culture and
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processes have taken a backseat to shiny
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products and there's been a bunch of
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shiny products they showed off last week
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uh open it's not the things are not
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unrelated um open AI has dissolved that
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super alignment team the company told
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Bloomberg the group will be integrated
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across research efforts to help achieve
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safety goals uh Sam Alman put out a
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statement and also did open a co-founder
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Greg Brockman uh sharing their view of
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the future they said the company has
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quote raised awareness of the risks and
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opportunities of AGI so the world can
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better prepare for it whether they're
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preparing for it or not is a big
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question there's been at least 11
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high-profile exits in the last few
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months um you know this is an issue
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again of speed versus safety they have
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been rolling out the products because
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they're deathly terrified of getting
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rolled over by the big companies I can
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feel it I can feel such a Netscape
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moment for them um you know uh we'll see
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uh we'll see what'll happen here but
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it's definitely a company still shaking
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off or dealing with these issues that
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they've had these two different types of
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people who are um involved in this
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company which is some that are think
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this is a a risk to humanity others who
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are like calm the [ __ ] down let's make
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some stuff and we'll figure it out later
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um uh one of the things that got a lot
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of reporting was open aa's offboarding
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agreements that have non-disclosure and
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non-disparagement Provisions not
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uncommon but theirs were particularly
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stringent if a departy employee violated
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these Provisions they were in danger of
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losing all their vested Equity according
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to Vox Sam mman confirmed in a tweet
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there was a provision about potential
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Equity cancellation for departing
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employees but it was never en forced the
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company is currently changing that
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language uh it sounds like they're just
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like just tough customers on that thing
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um it is further than other people do
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it's usually more Talent friendly in
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general in Silicon Valley Scott what are
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your thoughts on all this when Ilia was
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part of the board yeah when when he was
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part of the board that fired Sam Alman
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if you're going to stab the prince you
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better kill him when he came back Ilia
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became the information age equivalent of
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prosan he was dead man walking he just
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wasn't going to survive oh no feelings
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for firing me come on water under the
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bridge that just wasn't going to happen
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and this is similar to meta the fastest
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way to get a severance check is to go to
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work for the trust and safety team
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because every once in a while in
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response to real heat they'll pretend to
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give a good godamn and they'll create a
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trust and safety team I doubt Mark
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listens to them or cares about them and
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then under the cover of dark fires most
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of them I like the fact that open AI is
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becoming more like what they really are
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and that is they are a for-profit
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company and they're not pretending tough
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mothers and they're not pretending to be
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any anything I'd rather them be like New
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Yorkers that's that's one of the reasons
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I love New York versus doing business in
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California is they don't pretend to be
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something they aren't
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and this is a four profit companies and
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open AI are going to be so good at
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making profit they shouldn't be trusted
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to do anything else and the fact and
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first off and also well except they were
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founded with a slightly different idea
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but go ahead yeah and then when they
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took 11 billion those people wanted
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their money back so they should have
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never taken that money but the one thing
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the one compensatory thing here is that
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any group of people that decides to call
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themselves super alignment should be
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fired that is I thought you'd like that
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is those people should endure a certain
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amount of ridicule and pain what are
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your thoughts well you know AI is going
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to kill us Scott I mean it's a really
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interesting thing because these people
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are you know there's a group over in
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anthropic that are much more concerned
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in that regard and I think they have a
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right to be absolutely I think listen
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I've always been a safety let why are
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you not paying attention to any bit of
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safety from the very get-go and so I
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would naturally be affiliated with the
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super alignment people at the same time
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for them to think this is anything other
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than a for-profit institution is kind of
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well then go on a board go on a you know
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go to Stanford and and become a
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high-profile naysayer of these things or
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write a book like burnbook right um
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because they're inside these companies I
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think that because of the amount of
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money here there's just no way people
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aren't going to be aligned around the
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money making and you know some people
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are like oh you like Sam mman I said I
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said yes but he's a tough [ __ ] I
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was like are you kidding he's so
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aggressive he's so much like all the
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people he you know he's just like he's
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not like Elon because elon's a toxic
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piece of [ __ ] sometimes and most of the
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time uh I don't consider Sam like that
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but he is interested in not having this
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company die you know he is interested in
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making it the most dominant I have no
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question he's hyper aggressive and just
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as feral as the rest of them and so um
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you know they're going to have these
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things because what they want to do is
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pretend that they care about this safety
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stuff which they do peripherally you
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know more than other people I guess they
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bring it up more but they don't they
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just don't care about that issue and
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they're not they're not they're not
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going to be around to see the machines
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eating Us Alive or something like you
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know what I mean like it's it's not
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their job it's it's well but it this is
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the problem its birth was like it was
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like two it was like a hippie parent and
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a a non- hippie parent right and they're
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fighting forever this group these groups
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of people are fighting forever and so
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they are never going to be this whole
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company isn't going to be in alignment
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it started out out of alignment and
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they're never going to I know that I'm
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using a term about the idea of making
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sure it's safe but they will never this
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company will never it might be what
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kills them right it might be what kills
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them because they're going to get
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unusual it's like Google saying don't be
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evil that was this one big mistake like
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why did they do that right because
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they're evil not evil that's too far but
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you know what I mean like that that that
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whole cosplaying about being heroic has
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always been a problem for that's not
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these companies always figure out
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they're like okay unless we're re Ben
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and Jerry's let's be honest folks we all
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want our own big home we all want to
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take care of our kids we all want a
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broader selection set of mates than we
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deserve so let's let's stop let's stop
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pretending where it's dangerous is that
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we keep thinking that Sam Alman is
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actually a better generation of leaders
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we don't need to be as worried about AI
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because Sam's in charge and he'll speak
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in hush tones and say how concerned he
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is and what it does is it dampens the
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urgency in the need to elect people who
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can craft legislation to regulate these
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guys that's right it's not Sam's job
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that's exactly right his Sam is doing
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his job he's firing people who get in
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the way of him making being the no if
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Sam were to lose to to gemini or to
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llama or whatever or xai they would say
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yeah but he was more ethical and more
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concerned and we love him for that he's
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not going to get a statue for that let's
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just say there have to be ethical things
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if you're working for this kind like
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it's working for Palante here you're
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going to make defense department stuff
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don't work there like that you know or
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you know the Google employees that's
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different because Google sort of gave
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them an in to to complain because they
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were like we're better than this but
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they're really not better than this
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right so I think when you you sort of
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you know you you per have a performative
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nature of being being heroic you're
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going to be slapped later cuz you're
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going to let people down period and it's
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going to be very clear and again the
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reason my first line in my book was and
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so it was capitalism after all sticks
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that's what it is that's what's
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happening here and I think you all
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should go off and form a group of people
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that's that scares the [ __ ] B Jesus
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out of of the potential and you go up to
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Congress and you march in those offices
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and you explain to them why they need to
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make legislation that's what that's what
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you need to do I think when people all
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backed Sam a lot of people are like oh
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they love them I'm like no they love the
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money and they want to make money here
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and they you know and and they want to
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make they want to be not just make money
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they want to be at the coolest company
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making the [ __ ] they want to be at the
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winning company that makes them Rich
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yeah and also is the coolest company
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right that's more than that more than
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that anyway we'll see what happens I
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thought Yan's um I thought his his
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series of tweets was interesting but it
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doesn't really I'm sorry Yan do
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something else