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March 29, 2024 / 08:16

This episode discusses Reddit's IPO performance, Trump Media's stock volatility, and the dynamics of the IPO market. Key topics include Reddit's market cap, Trump Media's financial struggles, and the implications of meme stocks.

The hosts analyze Reddit's IPO, noting a 15% increase in shares after a 48% jump on its first trading day. They highlight Reddit's market cap exceeding $9 billion, despite challenges in monetizing its traffic.

Trump Media is described as a meme stock, with shares rising over 50% initially. The hosts express skepticism about its financial viability, citing a mere $3.4 million revenue in the first nine months of 2023 and a significant user decline.

The discussion touches on the IPO market's insider dynamics, where companies often price shares below actual value to create branding momentum. The hosts argue this system benefits institutional investors at the expense of retail investors.

Finally, they compare Reddit to Nvidia and discuss the speculative nature of Trump Media, warning listeners about the risks involved in investing in such volatile stocks.

TL;DR

Reddit's IPO surges while Trump Media faces scrutiny over financial instability and meme stock dynamics.

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we called it reddit's IPOs is a victory
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shares of the company are up 15% at the
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time of taping after jumping 48% on the
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first trading day Market uh reddit's
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market cap is currently over9 billion uh
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another thing we called Trump media is a
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meme stock shares the company jumped
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over 50% in the first minutes of trading
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causing a brief volatility pause Trump
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media is trading at a market cap of
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almost 8 billion uh the company made
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just $3.4 million in the first 9 months
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of
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2023 which is and they lost a ton of
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money they're losing um they're down 39%
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in users it's just a it's a scam of some
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sort it's just a it's a Ponzi SC I don't
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know what's the word you would use um so
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talk about Reddit first and then uh
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Trump media stock uh we called this the
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Reddit most traffic site in America
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that's not owned by alphabet in terrible
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monetization of that traffic but at the
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same time that represents the
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opportunity and uh there's also a ton of
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money on the sidelines it just all the
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mo lined up I just you could just feel
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this thing was going to get a big pop
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and also there's this very strange
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dynamic in the IPO Market where it now
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makes sense for the company to price
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below the actual value they could get
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such that because here's the thing we're
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talking about the fact that it was up
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48% that's it's the only time you have
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this branding event to be kind of the
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most successful or one of the most
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successful IPOs of the year and people
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say well they left money on the table
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because they could have priced it higher
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when you're talking about a float of 20%
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% maybe you lose 2% of the company but
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to be one of the most successful IPOs of
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the year and set the tone for your
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company it's worth the dilution so this
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is the Racket and it is a racket the
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investment Banks say price it below what
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it's worth and it's good branding it
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creates nice momentum nice Halo for you
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you only give up a little bit of
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dilution and we the Investment Bank get
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to essentially give free money to our
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institutional clients who generate fees
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for us now the unfortunate thing is the
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average retail investor doesn't get to
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participate they have to buy it at 47
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bucks even though it priced at 34 I
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think so it's a racket it's another
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example of a transfer of wealth from
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lower middle- income homes to
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institutions and rich people or people
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with access some people would argue well
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Vanguard Blackstone have a lot of money
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from Firemen and teachers and they get
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to participate but be clear the IPO
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Market is an Insider game and it is a
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bit of a fixed racket yeah yeah where's
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it going to go from here I think they'll
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just have to now they'll be on the
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basics of what they're business is like
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going forward there's only one thing
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that matters from this point forward
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right now it's right now on its basic
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numbers and its growth it's overvalued
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if they show any momentum that they are
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able to better monetize that Niagara
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Falls of traffic the stock will go up
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from here if they do not show momentum
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around monetization of their traffic
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it's going to go way down it's all I can
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tell you is in a year the stock will not
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be here but GL I would agree I think
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they've got it it's going to be in but
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it's still a very small it's very snap
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chatty it feels very Snapchatting very
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great a good product we'll see if they
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can look like better than what it is I I
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I like the people who run it and it's
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still small it's still a very small
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social media site but but the the
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contrast with SNAP is snap had much
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better user interface in my opinion was
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probably more
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Innovative great better monetization but
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didn't have nearly the traffic of Reddit
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and I think the market is deciding that
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the harder part is to get the traffic
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that you can probably figure out the
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other stuff because this is trading I
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mean this is trading at a rich valuation
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now is a segue to True
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social okay let's talk about Nvidia
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Nvidia is arguably the eye of the storm
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for hype round Ai and it's trading at 37
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times sales oh my God that's insane
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right 37 times sales Reddit is trading
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at 11 times so 11 for Reddit digital
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media potential huge growth we'll see uh
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Nvidia arguably hottest company in the
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world ,000 people turn out like like a
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Justin Bieber concert or band concert at
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the San Jose Stadium to see Jensen hang
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speak the financialization the idolatry
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of innovators and billionaires anyways
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that's trading at 37 time sales truth
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social is trading at 1,500 times sales I
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mean you want to talk about a company
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that is D Jenga or a house of House of
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Cards and by the way not Financial
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advice I would not get near the thing
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because you don't know what will happen
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because this is has nothing their
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followers are going to do it's all based
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on his followers and if they're going to
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keep it up they're going to keep handing
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him money it's also a very deaf way to
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give him money right if he's going to
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sell it is to keep it's it's a really
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complex way to give him money but he you
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know they're trying to it's all Trump
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fans and it's going to be Trump uh
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donator people who want to donate in a
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different way um just to keep it going
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and there's all these rumors that he's
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getting people to keep it going you know
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by buying all you have to buy is just a
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little bit to keep this stock in a crazy
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Zone you don't have to buy that much um
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and and that there's all kinds of games
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happening here I think this is an SEC
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violation happening in real time right
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now and I think it's a shareholder
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lawsuit situation and it's a it's a scam
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of some sort it's a it's not even a scam
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what is it it's a it's a meme stock it's
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a meme stock but it's the memest meme
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stock of in mem bille is one of the
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reporters called it and it just stay
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away even shorting it is a very
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dangerous situation correct I
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mean my advice to anyone here is not to
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get near this thing because it's not
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trading it's it's just unknown what it's
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trading on as far as we know he calls
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some someone in the gulf and says you
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know I'll make sure that we buy oil from
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you just do me a favor come in heavy and
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you're right there's a tale of a whip
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here a small amount of a small amount of
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purchases can send the stock
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skyrocketing and you just don't you
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don't want to get near this thing right
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now I mean AMC and GameStop were
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considered kind of the ultimate meme
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stocks they're shitty businesses but
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they were businesses they were doing
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billions in Revenue you could make an
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argument for theaters coming back you
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can make an argument for GameStop
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getting an I don't know download a video
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game you you could make an argument good
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decent management the guy from chewy
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whatever you can make an argument there
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this does 3 million in Revenue there's
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not even a there really isn't even a
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business here this is not a business
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this is something else yeah he just has
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to call some guy and say buy a million
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bucks buy a million bucks here um and
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it's it's like cost of doing business
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for people if he becomes president
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that's really it it's it's a it's a it's
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so corrupt it's so crazy corrupt um it's
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just going to be very interesting what
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happens the board is his son Devin and
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then who is it it's another Deon Nunes
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his son another they're all his friends
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and all Oh Linda McMahon this makes this
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makes Tesla's board look like a model of
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corporate governance yeah that's true
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and they can they can announce we've
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decided
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his lock perod or eliminate it and he
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canes away they will have to discl
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that'll be interesting is what happens
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to the stock if and when it's disclosed
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or we get close to any date where he can
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sell because my guess is he's using that
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stock and I don't know if he has to
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disclose this to
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guarantee uh his ability to raise the
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175 million he has now but this guy is
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going to sell most or all of it because
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he's going to look and go there's
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nothing here
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there he's going to decide he's going to
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he knows there's nothing there and then
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what happened with the meme stocks is
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everyone together they say let's take
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over the castle we can do it we can kill
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these short Sellers and they do it and
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then they look at each other and they
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fall asleep and they go I need to get
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out of here before there's a rush out
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the door that's right the and they're
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all looking at each other and there's
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only one person they're looking at here
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and it's the following when can Donald
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Trump sell
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MH and when does he sell I I I just
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think this is going to be so this is
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going to be such a case it's his next
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criminal case or his next civil case um
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where he's going to be sued for doing
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whatever he's doing and there'll be
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emails everywhere because they're so
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clsh at their
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corruption

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This episode stands out for the following:

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    Most memeable
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  • 65
    Most quotable
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Episode Highlights

  • Trump Media's Volatility
    Trump Media shares jumped over 50% in the first minutes of trading, causing volatility pauses.
    “Trump media is trading at a market cap of almost 8 billion”
    @ 00m 20s
    March 29, 2024
  • The Meme Stock Phenomenon
    Trump Media is labeled a meme stock, raising concerns about its legitimacy and future.
    “This is the memest meme stock of all time”
    @ 05m 22s
    March 29, 2024

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Key Moments

  • Trump Media Surge00:14
  • Insider Game02:21
  • Meme Stock05:19
  • Corruption Concerns06:38

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