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October 18, 2024 / 05:37

This episode addresses financial advice for dealing with a parent who is influenced by conspiracy theories regarding the economy, particularly a belief in gold investment. Hosts Cara and Scott discuss how to approach the topic without alienating the parent.

Listener Nikki from Texas asks for guidance on how to communicate with her mother, who is convinced the US dollar is collapsing. Scott suggests reframing the conversation to focus on diversification rather than arguing about asset classes.

They emphasize the importance of not putting all financial resources into one investment, recommending a mix of gold and diversified index funds. Cara shares her perspective on allowing parents to spend their money as they wish while being cautious of scams.

The hosts also touch on the significance of protecting older individuals from financial scams, highlighting a personal incident involving Nikki's mother. They conclude with a call for audience engagement regarding AI usage.

TL;DR

Hosts discuss how to advise a parent on financial beliefs without conflict while emphasizing diversification and scam awareness.

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this question comes via email I'll read
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it hi Cara and Scott big fan of the
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podcast and would love your insights on
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a financial challenge with a parent how
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do you approach Financial playing with a
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parent who's increasingly keen on
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betting against the US economy
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influenced by questionable sources and
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conspiracy theories basically anything
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but mainstream media my mom is
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particularly bullish on gold convinced
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the US dollar is on the verge of
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collapse I strive to listen and offer
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datadriven advice but I'm concerned if I
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challenge her belief too directly if I
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push her further to those ideas how can
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I communicate that the US economy isn't
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on the brink of imploy without
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alienating her thank you Nikki from
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Texas oh man Scott oh I don't know get
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control of her stuff I guess Nikki uh
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Scott you committ never her committed
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like my mom spends way too much money
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but it's her money I don't really care
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what she does with her money I think you
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got to reframe the argument and that is
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rather arguing against or for an asset
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class because quite frankly she might be
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right and you might be wrong each of you
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has a 50-50 likelihood that gold is a
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good or a bad investment or the US
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economy is going to go up or down from
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here it's the wrong argument the
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argument is the following it's Mom we
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have some money you have some money
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Nobody Knows the brightest people in the
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world don't know what they do know is
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that we shouldn't put too many of our
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eggs in one basket mom if you feel you
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have inside here or you get some reward
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from picking this stuff then okay we're
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going to take 10 maybe 15% of your
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assets and you're going to buy gold but
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we're going to put the rest in
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Diversified index funds because here's
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the thing mom you don't have the time to
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make it back and it doesn't matter how
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smart you are Warren Buffett lost 50 60%
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of his net worth during the great
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financial recession you can be a genius
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the market will always Trump individual
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Behavior so if you want to have some fun
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you're really into gold fine but the
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majority of your assets because we love
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you and we want to make sure that you
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are always
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economically fine and that you don't
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have the emotional stress a financial
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stress of this age we're putting the
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rest in Diversified index funds can we
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agree on this mom you want to put some
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money in Gold fine but the majority of
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it needs to be in Diversified lowcost
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index funds don't argue over asset
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classes she knows no less or more than
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you what you know is that she needs to
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be Diversified and ensure she doesn't
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have the stress a financial stress at
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this point in her life listen Nikki I
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would do the opposite I would um I would
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make a fake gold bar and hand it to her
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and try to get control of her finances
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that's called parental abuse that's
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correct because you're protecting her I
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I think I I it's is she old I don't know
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if she's not old I don't know I'm always
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like with my mom and her money um you
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know if it's your money spend it down to
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zero and then you'll be at our beast at
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some point but I don't I think you can't
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protect people from the things they want
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to do what you can protect them from is
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schemes and things like that that's
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something that's important don't let her
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buy Trump gold coins or or sneaker gold
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sneakers whatever she happens to like
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gold um be careful of scams and get keep
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her out of those let her buy a gold
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whatever gold future individual assets
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care are a scam individual assets at
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that age or a scan yeah I agree but I'm
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just saying just buy a little bit of a
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go what is it gold future what do you
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buy what you don't actually buy gold
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give me some kruggerands old people like
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KS not give put them in your put them in
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your um put them in a safe so people
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don't come and steal them from her as
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she gets never stay at Trump Plaza and
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there's going to be Gold Everywhere Gold
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Everywhere I don't know I it's very
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difficult my policy with my mom is just
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wants to spend her money let her do
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whatever she wants as long as she isn't
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fooled by doy spend her money on other
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than pooie dresses she looks fabulous
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she does look good she spend her money
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on oh silly things buy stuff for like
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the children my kids and um a lot of
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that um a lot of stuff we don't we get a
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package from Ralph Lauren every five
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minutes which we most of which we take
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back and your daughter's a podcast
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baller her son owns a Coal Company and
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the other son is a head of
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anesthesiology she should be spend all
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your money luy no I know that go to
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Vegas get a cocaine habit lucky your
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kids she used to buy clothes it used to
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be clothes and and and rental properties
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and she's you know whatever she likes to
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she has a shopping problem I would say
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but she likes it it makes her happy I
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don't know what to say it's her money um
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she should do whatever he wants with it
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as long as she doesn't get scammed out
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of it which really there was an incident
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where she gave someone her numbers on
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the phone very typical and they were
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trying to get into a bank account my
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brother handled it that kind of stuff I
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just as she gets older Nikki watch for
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scams it really is something sad that
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happens to not just olderly people but
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they're much they're much in the focus
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of those people anyway um while we're on
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Episode Highlights

  • Navigating Financial Conversations with Parents
    A listener seeks advice on discussing financial beliefs with a parent who is skeptical of mainstream media.
    “How can I communicate that the US economy isn't on the brink of collapse?”
    @ 00m 29s
    October 18, 2024
  • The Importance of Diversification
    Advice on how to approach a parent’s investment choices, emphasizing diversification over singular investments.
    “We shouldn't put too many of our eggs in one basket, Mom.”
    @ 01m 07s
    October 18, 2024

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