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September 17, 2024 / 03:51

This episode discusses new shipping rules proposed by the Biden Administration targeting companies like Shein, Temu, and Alibaba. The rules aim to close loopholes that allow low-value shipments to enter the U.S. without duties and fees.

The conversation highlights a report from the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, which claims that Shein and Temu are responsible for over 30% of packages benefiting from these exemptions. The committee noted that Gap paid $700 million in import duties in 2022, while Shein and Temu paid none.

The guest, an investor in Shein, argues that while the loophole should be closed, the proposed taxes could increase costs for American consumers. They emphasize that Shein's business model, which relies on software and AI rather than physical assets, gives it a competitive edge over traditional retailers.

Despite potential tax implications, the guest believes Shein will continue to grow rapidly, potentially surpassing major companies like Amazon and Walmart in the apparel sector.

The discussion also touches on the importance of technology in retail and how companies like Walmart have historically leveraged tech for success.

TL;DR

Biden's new shipping rules target Shein and Temu, aiming to close loopholes on low-value imports while discussing their competitive advantages.

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the Biden Administration is proposing
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new shipping rules targeting uh shien
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and uh timu and Alibaba long-standing
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trade law allows low value shipments ENT
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the US without duties and fees have been
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abused by companies the administration
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says the new rule would prevent uh those
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exemptions a report from the house
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select committee on the Chinese
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Communist Party says uh Shen and uh timu
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are likely responsible for more than 30%
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of all packages within the exemptions
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according to committee uh a gap paid uh
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$700 million and import duties in 2022
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well Shen and timu uh paid none I think
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that's probably needs to be fixed um
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what do you think about this it does
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make things more expensive for the
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American Consumer for the average yeah
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look look uh just disclosure I'm an
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investor in Shen um I think this is I
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think this is hard to argue for
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maintaining I I don't I mean two things
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they are they're taking advantage as
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companies do of a loophole and what I
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would like to see is these these tax is
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done away for everybody um I'm a I'm I'm
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totally anti- tariffs anti-taxes unless
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it's used as a strategic weapon if we're
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Outsourcing pollution or someone or the
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Chinese decide to try and dump steel
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whatever it is but I'm I'd like to see
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the taxes I mean Gap in H&M you know say
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they paid 700 and 200 million
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respectively on this tax because this is
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a loophole that says if it's less than
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$800 and it's going direct to the
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household you don't have to pay these I
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think it's import taxes so I I think
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this is hard to argue that this
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shouldn't be closed or they should they
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shouldn't get rid of the the taxes or
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the import duties on the other brands
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what they don't realize is this is only
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a small cost or Delta and what gives
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these companies such an incredible
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advantage and Sheen and the reason I
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invested in it is that if you look at
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companies over the last 20 years that
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have added tens of billions of dollars
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in market
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capitalization they T tend to have one
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thing in common and that is their asset
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light and the really amazing the reason
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I invested in Shen and the reason why
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even with if they have to pay these
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tariffs they're still going to have an
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unbelievable advantage over these other
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players and these two companies will be
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responsible for1 and5 spent over the
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holidays and their advantage is the
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following it's all software they don't
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own any assets they don't own a single
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Factory a single truck a single plane a
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single Warehouse or a single store and
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what they do is they use AI to examine
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activity on their site and with this
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machine learning in AI they can go okay
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we're going to need exactly
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7700 pairs of bellbottom tie-dye jeans
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and then within a microsc the software
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goes these are the three best factories
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to produce it and then other pieces of
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the software start going okay this is
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the fastest way to get it to the
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consumer and because it goes because of
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all of this incredible demand estimation
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it's because it's such a low price there
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are fewer and fewer returns it's more
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efficient and they're able to charge a
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fraction of the price of Zara I mean
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it's it it's what Zara did to everybody
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else these guys are doing to Zara and
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it's all with software there's no assets
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here so as a as a result Shen is going
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to be the second largest apparel company
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in the world surpassing Amazon this year
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and next year they're probably going to
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surpass Walmart with no assets so this
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will hurt them a little bit I think it's
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unfair I think they should pay the price
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they should pay the tax but be clear
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it's not it's barely going to slow their
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growth that's not the issue here the is
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as these other companies have an
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outdated business model and Shen has a
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just a much better business model yeah
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well Walmart was ahead in
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technologically that's why they did so
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well technology always matters in these
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cases um but we'll see they they deserve
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to pay the tax sorry sorry companies you
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have to pay the tax

Episode Highlights

  • Biden Administration Proposes New Shipping Rules
    The Biden Administration aims to close loopholes in shipping rules that benefit companies like Shen and Timu.
    “The new rule would prevent those exemptions.”
    @ 00m 12s
    September 17, 2024
  • Shen's Market Dominance
    Shen is projected to surpass Amazon and Walmart, revolutionizing the apparel industry with a software-driven model.
    “Shen is going to be the second largest apparel company in the world.”
    @ 03m 12s
    September 17, 2024

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  • Loophole Exploitation00:52
  • Software-Driven Success03:09
  • Market Predictions03:12

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