So Why Is Elon Musk Going After Kara Swisher This Time?

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Episode Description

Elon Musk says Kara "really wants to go to prison," and she has some thoughts! Kara and Scott break down the contrasting earnings reports from SpaceX and Tesla, and the potential merger of Musk’s two companies. Plus, Meta’s blockbuster earnings, Zuckerberg’s latest power play, and Joel Kaplan’s exit. Then, Sacha Baron Cohen joins to discuss his new movie, "Ali G: Who Iz I?" and why he doesn't think democracy is compatible with social media.

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00:00 Kara Responds to Elon Threats 7:50 SpaceX and Tesla Earnings 11:10 Will Tesla Merge With SpaceX? 22:01 Meta Earnings 27:33 Joel Kaplan's Meta Exit 33:09 Sacha Baron Cohen Brings Back Ali G 01:02:50 Predictions

Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin Todd Wiseman

Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa

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With great power, comes great scrutiny. Every Tuesday and Friday, journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else.

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Brief Summary

Swisher and Galloway assess Musk, Starlink, Tesla, SpaceX, and Meta, then talk satire, social media, and Ali G with Sasha Baron Cohen.

Key points

  • Musk’s threats and the power of a megaphone. The hosts discuss Musk’s “live by the sword” post and the risks of powerful figures directing their followers at critics. They argue that public attacks can have real-world consequences.
  • The Tesla–SpaceX merger narrative. Scott says Tesla’s weak performance is being wrapped in a grand new story about robots, autonomy, data, and SpaceX. He argues that the proposed merger could increase Musk’s control while leaving shareholders with little
  • Starlink’s geopolitical risk. The hosts warn that Starlink’s role in military communications gives Musk extraordinary influence over national security. They discuss the possibility of governments regulating or even nationalizing the service.
  • What if the AI boom breaks?. SpaceX’s growing AI-compute revenue is a major part of its recent surge, but the hosts question what happens if demand falters. A downturn could expose the company’s spending and valuation risks.
  • Meta’s AI efficiency in one sentence. Meta’s revenue rose 26% while headcount fell 15%. The hosts frame the contrast as a glimpse of AI’s promise—and a source of anxiety for workers and politicians.
  • Why billionaires stay in California. The hosts joke that, despite complaints about the state, people with the most options still choose to live there. The punchline: California is hard to leave.

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