Sam Altman Says OpenAI Not "Moral Police" After Backlash | Pivot

Pivot with Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway

  • Oct 17, 2025
  • 1:20:43
  • Full Episode

Kara and Scott discuss the fallout from the Young Republicans' Telegram chat leak, Instagram’s new protections for teens, and OpenAI allowing "erotica" for adults.  Plus, Kara has thoughts about Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff’s call for National Guard troops in San Francisco, and Scott has a prediction about the future of the podcasting business.

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00:00 Intro 6:41 Leaked Young Republican Texts 18:45 AI Safety Bills 28:51 Instagram’s PG-13 Rating 38:23 Meta Removes Ice-Tracking Page 46:46 Marc Benioff: Send Troops to SF 56:29 DOD’s New Press Policy 01:04:42 Predictions

Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin

Video Producer: Jim Mackil

Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa

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Brief Summary

The episode discusses leaked texts from young Republicans, OpenAI's erotica policy, and the future of podcasts in media.

Key points

  • Narcissism and Self-Image. Scott shares his struggles with self-image and aging, humorously reflecting on beauty standards.
  • Young Republicans' Controversial Texts. Leaked texts reveal shocking racist and sexist jokes among young Republican leaders, prompting outrage.
  • OpenAI's New Erotica Access. OpenAI plans to allow verified young adults to access erotica, stirring debate on morality.
  • The Dangers of Synthetic Relationships. Synthetic relationships may seem appealing, but they can lead to harmful consequences for young people.
  • Age Restrictions on Technology. There should be strict age restrictions on synthetic relationships and pornography to protect youth.
  • Weaponizing the IRS. The discussion centers around the implications of using the IRS as a political tool.

Episode highlights

Tension

45/ 100Some tension

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