Is Stephen Miller Running the White House? | Pivot
- Jan 27, 2026
- 1:08:33
- Full Episode
Kara Swisher is joined by guest co-host Anthony Scaramucci to discuss why so many business leaders have stayed silent about ICE violence in Minneapolis — and why it's time to push back against Donald Trump (and Stephen Miller). Then, Trump goes on the record about his health in a new interview that’s raising more questions and concerns. Plus, TikTok seals the deal to stay in the U.S., but glitches abound.
00:00 Intro 01:52 ICE Violence 03:32 CEO Silence 21:19 Stephen Miller Power Grab 35:18 Trump’s Health 46:42 TikTok Makes a Deal 1:01:10 Wins and Fails
Producers: Lara Naaman Zoë Marcus Taylor Griffin
Video Producer: Rich Shibley
Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa
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Brief Summary
Scaramucci and Fry discuss Minnesota's violence, corporate responses, and Trump's influence on democracy and business.
Key points
- The Fight Against Trump. A passionate declaration of readiness to oppose Trump at every turn.
- Business Leaders' Silence. Discussion on the silence of CEOs regarding political issues and their implications.
- Tim Cook's Dilemma. Tim Cook faces pressure from Trump while managing Apple's interests in China.
- Steven Miller's Control. Discussion reveals Steven Miller's significant influence over Trump's administration.
- Corporate Pushback Against Trump. A call for corporate leaders to unite against Trump’s policies.
- The Bully Strategy. Advice on how to confront bullies effectively.
Episode highlights
- The Fight Against TrumpA passionate declaration of readiness to oppose Trump at every turn.“I don’t give a [ __ ] I will fight Trump every step of the way.”0:18Jan 27, 2026
- Business Leaders' SilenceDiscussion on the silence of CEOs regarding political issues and their implications.“If speaking out against fascism damages your brand, that means your brand is fascism.”3:36Jan 27, 2026
- Tim Cook's DilemmaTim Cook faces pressure from Trump while managing Apple's interests in China.“I’ve got new products coming out... most of the manufacturing is in China.”19:07Jan 27, 2026
- Steven Miller's ControlDiscussion reveals Steven Miller's significant influence over Trump's administration.“He’s running the administration. He’s writing the speeches.”23:24Jan 27, 2026
- Corporate Pushback Against TrumpA call for corporate leaders to unite against Trump’s policies.“You’ve got to get your shit together right now.”25:17Jan 27, 2026
- The Bully StrategyAdvice on how to confront bullies effectively.“You knock the bully into next week.”31:30Jan 27, 2026
- Biden's Health ConcernsDiscussion on Biden's physical and mental health raises alarms about his capability to lead.“He looks absolutely terrible.”36:49Jan 27, 2026
- TikTok's New DealTikTok dodges a ban and creates a new American entity with Oracle and Silverlake.“TikTok has dodged a potential ban and sealed the deal.”46:43Jan 27, 2026
