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MFM Minisode 68

April 30, 2018 /

This episode discusses the Golden State Killer, personal stories involving crime, and the experiences of individuals connected to notorious events.

The hosts react to the recent capture of the Golden State Killer, sharing their excitement and discussing the implications of the case. They mention a photo from a town hall meeting that sparked discussions about the killer's demeanor.

Listeners share personal anecdotes, including one about a woman who worked for the FBI during JFK's assassination and another about a mother who unknowingly cleaned a crime scene.

There are humorous exchanges about misconceptions regarding family members, including a story about a father who was mistaken for having an affair when he was actually helping a woman in distress.

The episode concludes with reflections on the nature of crime and the impact on families, emphasizing the importance of understanding the victims and their stories.

TLDR

Hosts discuss the Golden State Killer and share personal crime-related stories from listeners.

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And I believe that you'll believe us when we guarantee you that really quick. I just want to say time-wise,
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I know this is going to go up at a totally different time, but for us, it's still the day after the press conference of them catching the golden state killer yeah i am i
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would say only 15 less 15 less excited than i was yesterday and like i can't stop looking for
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information it's driving me fucking batshit so what's the one piece of information that one day
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later you're excited about oh there's so much oh that photo that you sent me this morning yes
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someone it looks like someone screen grabbed and it's i'm so mad at myself because i was watching
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the ID for part. What is it called? It's Golden State Killer. It's not over. But they got to cross that out and be like, it's fucking over.
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They have to be like, here's five more episodes because here's the continuation.
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Definitely. Someone screen grabbed just a really quick shot of the fucking, what is it called?
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Not press conference. Town hall meeting. Yeah. Side by side. It looks like him 100% in at the meeting that you sent me.
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It's on our Twitter. Yeah. Someone made it. I think someone made it on the Facebook page first and then someone saw it on the Facebook page and sent it to us on Twitter.
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And retweeted that. It's very important that you know every step. We just never want to take credit for something that's not ours.
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Right. But we don't want it so much that we're going to write your name down on a piece of paper.
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I certainly won't. But the cool part about it or like the thing that I couldn't stop looking at that picture because this is a person not who looks like I was looking.
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Right. It's not someone who's trying to keep their head down. has the right hair swoop no you know nothing like that but my point is his energy is as if he's at
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a campfire yeah he's taking up all kinds of space he is like there's you can see he it looks like
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he's happy to be amongst his fellow man he has a yellow shirt on which is almost like a look at me
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fucking thing yes and he doesn't seem he's he's playing it so perfectly of you would never look
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at that guy yeah and he looks intense he looks like he's listening intently yeah but slightly
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smiling like when you look at that picture of his face he looks happy in that picture plus ma
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and non sheila is in the foreground of it who also looks a lot like my friend uh alicia gonzalez who
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used to live in sacramento she has that same face conspiracy could it be that my friend's mother is
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actually Ma Anon Sheila. There you go. Who was at the fucking Golden, sitting next to the Golden State Killer.
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Yeah. Isn't that so weird to see adults from the 70s sitting across, like, on the floor? Yep.
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Remember when your mom or dad would sit on the floor with you and you'd be like, this is weird.
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I have to say, I don't think my mother ever sat on the floor. No. She was always
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in some kind of a chair with a highball in her hand. It's like three in the morning.
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She was like, girls, I'm tired. Could you play somewhere else? Right. was always how it was.
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Well, I have a Golden State Killer quick one. Hell yeah. But should we save it for the end
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or should I just get out of the way right now since we're talking about it? Get it out of the way.
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Right, because it's not like, you know, but we're not, we don't have a lot of like good ones yet
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because it's all so new. It's all to come, to come, to come. Yes. So this is called
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The Golden State Killer is My Customer. You fucking guys. Please don't use my name.
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I work for the phone company for Citrus Heights and when the news broke yesterday about D'Angelo,
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I knew he sounded familiar. Turns out, all caps, I disconnected his home phone in August.
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Ooh. What? Once I found out the street name and saw the news coverage right outside the house, I went total stalker mode.
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I Google mapped the street and clicked through until I found his house and address, because duh, and then searched it in our system.
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He been our customer since 1987 He called to have his home phone turned off and I remember him wanting it turned off immediately But we have to ask questions for reasons for his reason for disconnecting
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My notes say someone was is listening to my calls and I just don't want it anymore.
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Oh my god. Do you think that he was even bugged in August? Well I don't either he was super
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paranoid. Yeah. Or he was bugged. I bet he was I bet he was super paranoid. But and also being
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an ex-cop, he would know what cops do and can do. Or what it sounds like when your
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call is being traced. Click, click. Click, click. And then he says, you guys, I talked
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to this guy for 20 minutes and had no idea it was him. Well, obviously. How could you not know?
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SSDGM. Wow. Can I say this? What if he needed to get his phone disconnected because that's the fucking phone
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he was calling and harassing victims with. Yeah, totally. And they were going to trace it back to him.
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But also the idea is like the phone line, the history of the phone line still exists.
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That's such an odd way to go like, oh, I can't call anymore. Therefore, no one's going.
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It's like, yeah, they'll know you had it. Well, we do have a neighbor who's writing about how her daughter babysat the daughters in the 80s.
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So hopefully she'll write in, too. Oh, wow. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, yeah, that's the other crazy thing, too.
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He's still alive, which means there's all kinds of connections. Oh, the one thing I did want to say, which somebody else tweeted and people were talking about, about, oh, because because someone posted the article from the Huffington Post of the woman who wrote about how hard it was because her father was a serial killer and how awful it was for her.
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And so, yeah, just that. And when the person posted that, they were just like, the families are victims, too.
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Absolutely. Everybody needs to keep in mind because, you know, there's tons of people going to the house.
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And of course, there's looky-loos everywhere. But it's like, but you have to remember there's people in that neighborhood, people inside that house.
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Like, it's, you know, don't. No, they're totally victims. And people always want to be like, how did you not know?
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You had to know. It's your fault for not. You didn't want to know. But it's like, no one would know that.
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No one's like me who suspects every single person around her is a fucking pedophile murderer.
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Well, and also we know that sociopaths and psychopaths are the perfect. They are the wolves in sheep's clothing.
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they know exactly how to trick everybody, especially the people closest to them.
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It's Jekyll and Hyde. So standing way back and being like, how could you not know?
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It's like, get out of here. Okay, you go now. Okay. I'm going to start with an oldie.
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Okay. This one's fascinating. The subject line is mom type JFK's murder report. Hello, Georgia, Karen, Stephen and Pets.
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When JFK was president, my mom was a 21 year old badass working as a secretary for the FBI.
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Nice. I mean, I can just see her dress. I can see it's like a light green dress with white piping.
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She looks great. She is. It's summertime. Matching a little bolo jacket. Yes. And some like green flats.
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With like a little thick heel at the bottom. Yeah. Nice chunky kind of a quarter inch heel.
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Sensible. But still feminine. Yep. She was such a fast. Oh, sorry. Back then, that was the only job.
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That was the only type of job a woman could get with them. With the FBI. She was such a fast and competent worker that she quickly rose through the ranks and was given high security clearance.
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Hell yes. Bobby Kennedy used to come and sit on the edge of her desk and eat candy from a bowl that she had there.
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I bet Bobby did. Oh, Bobby. One. Sorry. That's such a great visual. It is. On the day JFK was assassinated.
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She was actually off from work. She was getting her incredible 60s hair set at the beauty salon.
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But as she stepped outside, she saw a woman nearby suddenly scream and drop her grocery bags all over the sidewalk.
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Mom rushed over and saw the news reports, which were airing on TV's in the store's window display.
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Wow, that's so cinematic. She immediately ran the five blocks to the FBI building.
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She knew it would be all hands on deck. Eventually, she was told to go home and rest up that she would be that she would need it.
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A few days later, she was taken by an FBI agent to an interview room and given several pages to type.
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She was one of five typists working on the report. Not 100% sure of the number, but it was something like that.
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And the agent with her would bring her a section of the report. Then she'd type it, give it back to him to proofread, and then correct any mistakes he found.
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He would then leave the room and come back with a new section for her. All these sections were provided out of order so that not one typist knew too much.
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after more than 24 hours she finally finished and was sent home she was so exhausted that she fell
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asleep on the bus and would have missed her stop if the driver hadn't known her and woke her up
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so 60s to this day she has never told anyone what she typed no tell us even now oh my god even now
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with some of it becoming public record she won't say she signed an oath to never reveal the contents
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and she is too sexy to break it. Later, she received a letter signed by J. Edgar Hoover and President Johnson
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thanking her for her service to her country in its hour of need. She got it framed and keeps it buried in her closet.
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What the fuck, Mom? Put that thing over the fireplace. It says that in parentheses.
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Why don't you tell your mom that? Just go upstairs. She also received invitations to the next several presidential inaugurations,
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though she never went. I fucking love this woman. Yeah Also as a part of her training to work for the FBI she had to go to charm school Yes you heard me And no I not making it up Walking with books on your head learning how to sit properly knees together bitches and cross your ankles Only hoes cross the whole leg And then there two laughing face emojis with tears They were just some of the many skills that she had to acquire That so nuts she was also there during MLK Jr famous speech Wow And attended many state dinners and government functions The stories she tells are both funny and fascinating
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I've told her many times she should write a book about what it was like to work for the FBI
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and to be in D.C. during that period of time. But she can't believe anyone would be interested in reading it.
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Honey. You are wrong, Mom. Can't wait to see you again in Atlanta. SSDGM Tracy. Oh, my God.
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can we get her mom on stage to tell her literal hometown murder and finally reveal what she wrote this,
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the idea that she won't break an oath that the information of which is now public record online makes me fucking worship that woman.
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That is so, that's what it's supposed to be about. Yeah. You fucking, you make a promise.
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Sorry. I made a promise. I would have told everyone by now. I can't keep one fucking piece of information in my mouth.
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never tell me anything no i'll either forget it or i'll tell everybody i just don't yeah it's just
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how i am secrets are stupid i mean it's more fun to know shit it's so much more fun to tell shit
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and talk about shit yeah all right here we go this is called my mom was manipulated into cleaning up
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a crime scene oh no but you this is a really funny one my brother uh my brother always said
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my mom was born to be a mother. What a great opening line. No hello or anything, but my
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brother always... No, I guess... Yeah, we're in. No, we're in. I like it. When we both moved out, she downsized to a townhouse across town and became the mother
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to the world. She was constantly giving neighbors rides, cooking them dinner, and having long
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conversations about their hopes and dreams. I need her in my neighborhood. This is a mom episode. One day she was driving back home and she saw a man smoking beside
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the row of townhouses. She got out and introduced herself because she doesn't believe in the
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cardinal rule to fuck politeness the man said he was the older brother to one of her neighbors and
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he was there to settle his affairs as he had committed suicide the night before uh my mother
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knowing everyone in the neighborhood was besides was my mother knowing who everyone in the
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neighborhood was was asked if there was anything she could do he told her no but he had just wished
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his mother didn't have to see the scene inside my mom asked why no one had come to clean up the scene
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and he told them that they didn't provide that service to suicides. My psycho mother went down to her house,
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grabbed her gloves, buckets, and cleaners, and returned. She told me she could never have prepared herself for the scene inside.
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After she was done, she returned home and went about her life as if she didn't mop up blood and brains off the floor a few hours ago.
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Shortly after, the cops came knocking. Apparently, this suicide was never reported and...
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Was a murder. The victim had no brother. Oh, my God. When the cops asked her why she had aided the man in cleaning the crime scene, she simply told them she thought his mother was coming and no mother should ever have to see something so gruesome.
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My mother was eventually cleared of having anything to do with the murder and was given the compliment that she had done a great job disposing of the evidence.
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Stay sexy and don't mop up crime scenes, Jojo. oh my fucking god that that is so insane uh-huh but it like nothing about that even
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i didn't see that coming at all that i'm sorry but the guy smoking in the car is kind of a genius
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because you would if if you say like my brother committed suicide you're not going to sit there
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grilling the person on like, did he? Yeah, you're immediately going to be like, let me help you.
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That's so terrible. That person like, totally played her like a fiddle. I wonder who he was.
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I mean, besides from a murderer, aside of you. Also, well, that's a good thing for everybody to
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know. They do send, you know, when things happen, yes, go ahead and let the authorities get you
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know what else. And if they don't, there's a company you can hire to do that. And the reason
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is nobody. It's a very traumatizing, probably. Yeah, it's not for neighbors to do. No, this
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isn't a fucking broom and Swiffer situation. This isn't you don't need your house to be broom swept.
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A Drew Peterson hometown. Oh, dear. Hi, Georgia, Karen, and Stephen. I was listening to last week's minisode and I got so nervous that I missed out on the chance to share my hometown story.
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When I was young, maybe seven or eight, my dad would occasionally take me over to this woman Nancy Peterson's house.
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It seemed super sketchy to me because they were always in another room. They were always short visits and would leave me in a room to hang out with her daughters who were younger than me.
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Eventually her kids would leave and then my dad would come and get me and we would go home.
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naturally i just assumed my father was having an affair because i watched too many soap operas
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and had an active imagination oh my god i love it that's really funny in my defense i also thought
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my mom was having an affair with her chiropractor because i saw him rubbing her back all the time
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yeah exactly that was the one you were right about that was the one um well eventually this
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stopped and i never really thought anything of it until later when i was in my 20s stories started
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coming out about Drew Peterson's fourth wife going missing. My dad casually brings up our visit to Nancy's house in front of my mom.
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I was like, Dad, Mom can totally hear you. And he was so confused. He explained to me that the reason we used to go to Nancy's house
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was that she was going through a divorce with Drew Peterson's brother, and Drew would come over and harass Nancy and her kids.
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And my dad worked with both Drew and Nancy, so he would be there to keep Drew in check.
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since my dad and drew were both police officers he knew that drew wouldn't start shit in front of
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him oh my god clearly i wasn't giving my dad enough credit thinking that he was cheating on my mom
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instead of being a good guy and protecting this woman and her kids my mom and dad both thought
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it was hilarious and made fun of me for hiding their affairs which is really funny thank you
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ladies for all you do the way you talk about anxiety and therapy helps decrease the stigma
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of mental health issues and makes the world a better place one murderino at a time ssdgm sarah
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well Sarah you just made the world a better place that was very I guess I think I would be pissed at my daughter
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if I was like you suspected this thing and you never told me you wouldn't be proud
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that she's not a snitch absolutely not snitch snitches get candy oh I would have
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it wrong this whole time that sounds more right you're right but how weird would it be if you were 8 and you're just like
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mom I need you to sit down turn the TV off we have to have a talk I'd be like you're my favorite
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I love you you're so much better than your brothers and sisters yeah all right should i do one more
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do it okay this one's uh i won't tell you the name of it but it says light-hearted okay hey
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steven georgia and karen then it says in parentheses i'm not really an animal person
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love the podcast and i can't wait to see you in dublin in may i'm from connecticut but i'm
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currently studying abroad in ireland so in the early 60s my great uncle and great aunt were
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newlyweds living in Boston while my uncle attended Harvard Med School. Aren't you smart?
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At the same time, the Boston Strangler was in full swing. Between 1962 and 64, 13 women between the ages of 19 and 85 were raped and strangled
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to death, usually by their nylon stockings by the Boston Strangler. The murders took place in the women's apartments, and since there was no sign of fourth century,
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it was assumed that the women let the Strangler in, either because they knew him or because
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they thought he was a delivery man, delivery maintenance man of some sort. Yeah.
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Listen to the Stranglers podcast, right? Yeah. Okay. It's really good. It is. All right.
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So one night, sometime in the midst of the Stranglers active years, my great uncle and
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great aunt were watching TV before they went to sleep. The news reported another murder that they suspected was done by the Strangler.
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And my great aunt made a comment about how horrifying the crimes were. That's when my great uncle decided to turn to her, look her in the eye and say, Pat, I
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have something to confess i'm the boston strangler my great aunt freaked the fuck out completely
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believing him my great uncle immediately realized he had made a grave error recanted his quote
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confession and started frantically explaining my great aunt all of the reasons why he could not
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possibly be the boston strangler she eventually calmed down but she said that they slept with a
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light on that night thankfully the real killer ended up confessing and my great uncle and great
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aunt are still happily married today Stay sexy and don't falsely confess to murder, Caroline.
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Caroline, you know that a lot of people think that the guy they arrested, was it...
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Yeah. DeSalvo. Albert DeSalvo. They think that it isn't real. He definitely killed...
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They got a DNA match on at least one of the murders. Oh, is that true? But it's pretty common knowledge that there are multiple killers.
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Doing the same thing. All using the nylons around the neck. Yeah, like copycats.
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Maybe. Yeah. So, but that's why you should listen to the podcast is so great. I really loved it.
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Some of those, the details of some of those crimes are so disturbing and fucked up.
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And it's like, yeah, it's so hard to hear with like little old ladies. Not that like fucking young women with their lives ahead of them aren't hard enough.
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It's all hard. Yeah. Every time you listen to one, it's hard in its own way. Yeah.
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It's especially hard. Is that all we got? I think that's all we have. All right.
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Well, that's, that was like quite a mini-sode. A lot of packed. There's a lot of people aren't giving secrets away.
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A lot of badass moms. A lot of snitches. A lot of bitches. Getting candy. Yes. Thanks for listening.
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Episode Highlights

  • Dr. Death the Cowboy
    A charming neurosurgeon leaves a trail of broken bodies in his wake.
    “This is a story of greed, betrayal, and a fight for justice.”
    @ 00m 51s
    April 30, 2018
  • Mom's FBI Secret
    A woman types JFK's assassination report but never reveals what she wrote.
    “What the fuck, Mom? Put that thing over the fireplace.”
    @ 11m 21s
    April 30, 2018
  • Cleaning a Crime Scene
    A mother unknowingly cleans up a murder scene, thinking it's a suicide.
    “Stay sexy and don't mop up crime scenes, Jojo.”
    @ 15m 05s
    April 30, 2018
  • Murderino Mental Health Advocacy
    Listeners appreciate the podcast's role in reducing stigma around mental health issues.
    “Ladies for all you do, the way you talk about anxiety and therapy helps decrease the stigma.”
    @ 21m 30s
    April 30, 2018
  • The Boston Strangler Confession
    A great uncle jokingly confesses to being the Boston Strangler, causing panic in his wife.
    “Pat, I have something to confess: I'm the Boston Strangler.”
    @ 23m 32s
    April 30, 2018

Episode Quotes

  • This is a story of greed, betrayal, and a fight for justice.
    MFM Minisode 68
  • You fucking guys. Please don't use my name.
    MFM Minisode 68
  • What the fuck, Mom? Put that thing over the fireplace.
    MFM Minisode 68
  • Oh my god, that is so insane.
    MFM Minisode 68
  • Stay sexy and don't falsely confess to murder.
    MFM Minisode 68
  • A lot of badass moms.
    MFM Minisode 68

Key Moments

  • Greed and Betrayal00:51
  • Mom's FBI Story11:21
  • Crime Scene Cleanup15:05
  • Murderino Support21:30
  • Confession Panic23:32
  • Travel Planning25:20

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