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Hello! Hi! Hello, welcome. This is My Favorite Murder. The mini-sode. That's right.
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Coming at you. Live from our brand new recording studios. The exactly right recording studios.
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This is the first time we've ever recorded in them. We're up on, it's a mountain, up on the eastern side of Los Angeles.
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There's one of those big fluffy dogs with a whiskey barrel around his neck. He rescued us out of our cars because we drove up here.
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We got stuck in the snow. There was a blizzard. There was, it seemed, all seemed lost.
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Yeah. And then the St. Bernard came out of nowhere. Hashtag adopt, don't shop. Hashtag, did we save him or did he save us?
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He saved us, literally. Hashtag dog is my co-pilot. So thank you for joining us.
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Stephen, do we sound good? I think you guys sound beautiful. thank you it's great
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we're like cozy yeah this might not be what the final studio looks like but I think
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God I hope not we've really slapped some shit together right now we're sitting at a table
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made of matchsticks it's all very tenuous but because it's day one it's day one we're gonna see how this goes
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if we need to go back to the pod loft for like the vibe and shit we can always do that
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yeah what's our vibe like in here like what and our vibe is so different in here
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it's so different I really wanna turn the lights out but we have to read these emails
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so I'm not gonna Well, this is day one here. Right. We'll build up. We'll get recessed lighting.
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Yes, yes. And a lighting director. We'll get the dog to wear a little head. What are those little head things when you're going hiking?
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Like a GoPro. Oh, like a miner's light? Yes. Okay. So St. Bernard in a miner's light.
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We'll walk through the studio. God, this is going to be great. This is a minisode where we read you the shit that you send us.
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That's right. These are all rando emails about interesting things of your lives.
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Karen goes first. Are you ready? Yes. Why I can't trust ice cream trucks, my hometown story.
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All right. Hello to Karen, Georgia, and Steven. Our family grew up in a large and friendly neighborhood in Columbia, Tennessee, outside of Nashville.
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In the summers, our nights mainly consisted of playing outside until dark, and for my fat, Big Mac-loving fifth-grade self, waiting for the ice cream truck to stop by.
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I'm still paying for the Big Macs, hence the nightly walks. That's right. One afternoon, way too late in the summer season, my sisters and I were in the house
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working on homework, and we heard the ice cream truck coming around the neighborhood
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and ran to ask for permission to meet it. The only running I ever did. The best.
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My dad made me stay in to study, but my two younger sisters went out to buy us all ice cream.
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Not there! Now listen to this. My dad and I noticed that it was taking longer than usual, and when the girls came back in
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with our ice cream, they were carrying a piece of paper too. My dad asked what it was and took it
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from them, noticing that a phone number was written on it. The girls cluelessly explained that the old
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man who, uh, whom we had bought ice cream from many times before began asking them questions and
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gave them the paper. He told them that if we ever wanted ice cream at any time of the day, even in
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the winter, we could call him and he would come to our house. And he added that he was also available
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for our slumber parties and we would be able to and he would be able to show up at any time
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even at three in the morning no don't don't do that it's happened my dad immediately called the
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police and we all ate our ice cream while we waited for them to show up all they could do
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was tell us to let them know if he ever came back we never saw him again and needless to say it was
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a long time before we could ever trust another ice cream man again to this day i still get
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butterflies in my stomach when i hear the ice cream truck thinking about all the crazy things
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that could have happened had that man ever come back. Stay sexy and always take ice cream from strangers,
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but never invite them to your slumber parties. Sutherland. But what if he really was just this nice old man
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who was so lonely and wanted to go to little girl slumber parties at three in the morning?
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There's the overstep. Like a normal person. You've highlighted the issue because it's nice to be nice.
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Sell ice cream, do what you want. Keep your fucking digits to yourself in all ways.
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Abso-fucking-tively. Okay. We have a huge Ice Cream Man contingent listening to these episodes.
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I know. So we really need them to hear us. That's right. Don't give your phone numbers out.
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Okay This is called My Cousin Dad Was on America Most Wanted Hey y I just recently been put onto your podcast by my co And since then you been the soundtrack to my work week
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This hometown, what's up, Central Jersey, they say, is everything but murder. It's pretty crazy.
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Growing up, I remember lots of whispering about my aunt's new boyfriend, who my parents slash relatives believed to be a drug dealer.
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I thought they were just being antiquated and discriminatory because of his tattoos.
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But apparently I was also just a dumb 10 year old who knew nothing about anything.
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Turns out my aunt's boyfriend and eventually father of my little cousin was a drug dealer.
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One with an all caps tight grip on the cocaine production slash distribution within Newark and Elizabeth.
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He didn't just fucking distribute that blow around Elizabeth and Newark. He didn't need a quick buck and, you know, he couldn't get a job and all this.
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He made it. Was a kingpin. He had a science lab coat and he was pouring beakers back and forth making coke.
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Production distribution. Hey. Holy shit. After serving time for kidnapping a rival gang member, throwing him in his own truck
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and then firing at said truck, and that says homeboy survived, police began a five-month
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investigation which led to 23 arrests and the seizure of seven pounds of cocaine.
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Is that a lot of cocaine? It's plenty. 800 folds of heroin. I didn't know heroin came in folds.
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These little pieces of People magazine all folded up. It's that thing where you're like, do you know what a group of ravens is called?
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A heroin fold. It's a fold of heroin right outside my window. That's right. Two handguns and an AK-47 rifle from one of his trap houses.
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Oh, more lingo. I love trap music. In Newark. He managed to escape arrest not once, not twice, but three times.
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Twice by outrunning police through six lanes of traffic. Oh, did I mention he was a high school track star?
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Yes. And then he completely disappeared in the summer of 2009. My aunt and cousins ran off into the sun.
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Goodbye, down the freeway. Instead of going across traffic, he just went with it.
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Went along with it. You have to go with traffic. And he's still running today. Forrest.
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My aunt and cousin, who was about six years old at the time, knew nothing of his whereabouts
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and didn't hear from him until he turned himself into the Union County Sheriff's Office in 2012,
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citing that he wanted a chance to be in his son's life again. Aww, the drug dealer gone good.
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There is redemption here. In July of 2017, he was sentenced to 37 years, of which he must serve 30 before being eligible for parole.
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Jesus Christ. Damn, he must have been high up. It's crazy to think that this was the same man who'd often spare us,
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my many cousins and I, a few bucks for the ice cream truck. Whoa. There's a theme here.
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Automatic theme. Or to run down to the corner bodega. Though I guess when you're making nearly $700,000 a week,
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you can spare some change. You better buy some ice cream. Stay sexy and maybe do some research
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on your new boyfriend. Love, Lily. Nice. Amazing. Oh, I, you know, isn't that the human story
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that we're all drug dealers and we're all guys that float you for some ice cream?
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That's right. It's really nice. Just because you're a drug dealer doesn't make you a bad guy.
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No, sometimes drug dealers just want you to get nice and high and make money off you.
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We're kidding, everyone. We're kidding. This is not any truth. Don't do drugs. I love to do them very often.
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Try not to do them that much. Don't have a dealer. Be more casual. Just borrow it at parties and from friends.
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That's right. Keep using the word borrow. They'll love it. Here's the subject line.
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His first responder story. Feel good. Oh, good. Hey, y'all. You keep saying, by the way, the lighthearted now when everyone's like,
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lighthearted. It's question mark at the end of lighthearted. Every single one I got that said lighthearted was lighthearted.
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lighthearted? It's kind of not. You tell me. There's still blood. Okay. Hey, y'all. I never
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thought I'd have anything to share with you guys until recently when Karen was telling the story
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in episode 146 about the jaws of life and what first responders did before they had access to
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that tool. And this is my personal sidebar. I kind of pretty much got that wrong and heard from lots
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and lots of very kind and experienced firemen who were like, here's actually how it works.
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Firemen and women. Fire people. Is that what they're called? The people of fire.
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Fire starters sent in emails. And basically, I got one tiny aspect of it right, but the actual shape and movement and everything else was wrong.
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But we knew that was going to happen, didn't we? That's okay here. This is a safe space at exactly right offices.
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Oh, we're going to burn some sage after this. That's right. And the fucking house down, too.
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What if we accidentally just burned this whole place down? Like, sorry. neighbors. Okay. My dad's best friend who had always been like my uncle was a volunteer firefighter
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in a small town in Minnesota. He's naturally big, but has never been a huge weightlifter or anything.
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This is an important detail, I promise. Okay. When I was a kid, my dad's friend had to go to
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the scene of a terrible car accident. Mom and her toddler were stuck inside a car, which was on fire.
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While everyone else was trying to figure out how to get them out, he walked up to the car,
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adrenaline pumping and rip the door off the car who knows what would have happened if he hadn't
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done that it happened probably 25 years ago and i still get chills when i hear about it it's one of
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the many reasons i love my like an uncle friend thanks for reading love you guys ssdgm julie
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holy shit now there is a this reminded me there's a family story and it always changed of who is the
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person that did it which is how you know it's an urban myth right um but i still love it anyway
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that a the story was it was my grandmother and then somebody corrected me and was like no it was her mother
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one of those got into a car stint they drove up kids trapped in the car the father trapped under the car
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and she walked up and picked the car up and the guy got out from under the car and they modeled the jaws of life after this guy
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and your great grandma yes and superman after my great grandma wow I know isn that good Oh but I heard I learned at Thanksgiving I told the story several times that my grandfather was killed in a bar fight got stabbed in a bar fight
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I've told you that, right? Yeah, that's insane. I'm combining two stories. My sister's like, that's not true at all.
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You're combining two stories. And even though he died under suspicious circumstances, it was not a knife fight in the alley behind
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a bar. But did he get in a knife fight in the alley behind a bar once? We, it was, it was, he got rolled basically, but it was much less the jets and the sharks
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and much more kind of tragic. And it's a different family story of somebody else that died in a knife fight outside a
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bar. Well, you're going to need to like have this as your story one week. Yeah. Yeah.
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Oh, it's amazing. Crazy. Awful. I'm sorry. No, no. I'm sorry for lying constantly.
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I'm just going to tell you the beginning of this subject line. Okay. Uncle was a Mooney.
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Okay. Is this an uncle theme? It might be. Did you do that on purpose? No, I think there's just been sending a lot.
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I think because around Thanksgiving, probably a lot of family stuff coming in. Uncles, ice cream.
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Great. Crime. Hey, MFM fam. So my uncle was in the Mooney cult for years. Let's call him Tom.
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My mom told me this story back when I was probably 20 or so. When Tom was in college in North Carolina in the 70s, he went to a dinner slash lock-in.
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Well, it turned out to be a brainwashing session for the Mooney cult. Which one was the Mooney cult?
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The robes and shit? no that they're all robes there there's a lot of robes but the moonies were the ones that sold
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they uh they get married on mass so it's reverend moon and then there's like five 50 000 people get
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married and they never met the other person okay this is in this okay um the brain watching session
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he quickly fell out of his day-to-day activities and spent all his time selling these magazines for
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reverend moon my grandparents started to get worried because they hadn't heard from him in
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weeks. My mom has a family. My mom has family in Tennessee. And one day their cousin Mark was at
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the gas station in his town in Tennessee. When he sees his cousin, Tom, he kept shouting, Hey, Tom,
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what are you doing in Tennessee? Tom completely ignored him. Mark said Thompson really out of it,
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really spacey. Mark ran home to tell his parents and they called my grandparents and right away
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told them to go back and get him. They all run back to the gas station and basically kidnap him
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away from the Moonies and drive him back to North Carolina. Once there, my grandparents had a long
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talk, not really sure how long he was home or what he said because he went back to school
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and back to the Moonies. But this time he contacted his parents regularly. That's all
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you got to do if you're going to join a cult. I guess that's true. But then also don't believe
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that they're against you. Right. And don't join a cult. Step one, don't believe they're against you.
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Step two. Step three, stop it. Stop it. So years down the road, my uncle Tom was married to his
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wife Barb with 300 other people by Reverend Moon. So Tom and Barb start having kids and a couple
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in the cult couldn't have kids. So Reverend Moon told Tom that he and Barb are to have a child and
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it will be given to the other couple. Oh no. All caps. So they fucking did. Oh no. Which is kind
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of lovely, but not for the cult. Not with a cult. Well, not. Also, it's your own kid. I don't know.
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Yeah. You're too, it's lovely if it's far away and you didn't want the child. You shouldn't be
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able to give your kid away like that. No. Well, I don't think you are. I think they're operating
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outside the law in that church. No, but I mean like personally, be like, great. We'll have another
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ones you shouldn't agree to it yeah it shouldn't be fine with you no there's some walls that have
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been broken down that can't be built absolutely i'm not saying adoption is bad it's a beautiful
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thing that's not what this is it's the inter cult adoption that we are talking about right we love
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paperwork a few of his kids are still involved with the moonies holy shit the one the wild thing
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is no one in our family knew about this until tom slipped up and said something about brett
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Oh, who the fuck is Brett? Everyone asks. My uncle has long since left the cult and his wife,
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but Brett does know who his biological parents and four brothers are. Wow. Thanks for taking the time to read this,
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and I can't wait to see you in Milwaukee, SSTGM Amelia. Wow. Crazy. Yeah, that cult just doesn't go away.
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They're Mooney. They're all over the GD map. There is a really good made-for-TV movie that I've already talked about on the show.
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So if you're interested in the Moonies and the ways of how you get into something like that,
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and I will tell you what it is after I can't remember. Wait one second. There it is.
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Ticket to Heaven. Ticket to Heaven? It's a movie called Ticket to Heaven, and I swear to God, I don't know what it's on.
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It's very old. I think it's from the 90s. No, 81. Nice. It's so old. You have to watch it.
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Okay. One of my better recommendations so far. Just really pulled it off. It was slick.
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It was smooth. The subject line is the ghost of Karen Carpenter. Oh my God. Are you ready?
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I am ready. Hello, Karen. Do I hear your name after? God, I keep interrupting you.
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I'm so sorry. No, no, no. Are you kidding? That's all I've done this whole time.
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Hello, Karen, Georgia, Stephen, and pets. I've been meaning to write in this story for a while now, but it wasn't until today when
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Karen mentioned the ghost of Karen Carpenter on the mini-sode that I knew I had to share
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with you all. My dad has worked as a mortician his entire working career, starting in Idaho and later
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in LA after he and my mom moved to Southern California in the 80s. He has had so many wonderful stories
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including burying Rita Hayworth. Wow. I wouldn't call that wonderful. Is that what you're laughing about?
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Just the celebration of the death of Rita Hayworth. I had a wonderful day at work today, darling.
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Let me tell you. I was finally able to bury that woman. I always hated her work.
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She's my greatest rival in the mortician industry. Okay. Sorry, we know what you mean.
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Wonderful stories including burying Rita Hayworth in parentheses of which there are
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newspaper photos of him carrying her casket down the stairs of the church preceding her funeral.
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Wow. Living in a haunted apartment of a mortuary where doors would open and close.
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Yes. Fuck. And picking up a man who died at a sugar factory. Parentheses. I'll spare you the details.
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Oh, he fell in a thing. I bet you he fell in a thing He smothered on sugar That how I going to die in my living room I don want to ever be in a vat of things and get stuck in it Trying to swallow
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Trying to be like, Whenever I read those stories, I get fucking, I get so bummed.
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It's the worst. It's the worst. Let's talk about it. It also, it leaves this little bit of a funny joke mark at the end of your death,
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which sucks. There's no dignity in it. Right. It's just a huge bummer. It's a terrible death.
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And then a little bit of like today and weird news. Like I fucking died. You asshole.
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Like your story about the molasses fucking flood. It's like, wow, that's hilarious.
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And you're like, but people die. That's not as hilarious. It's not hilarious at all.
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It's like somebody was standing there going about their business and then a 40 foot wave
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of molasses killed them. Yeah. The end. And then every, yeah, et cetera, et cetera.
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That's what this whole podcast is. Can you fucking believe it? Can you fucking believe this?
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Um, okay. But it's his one story about Karen Carpenter that has always fascinated me.
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When Karen first passed away, she was buried at the Forest Lawn Cemetery in Cypress, California.
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But in 2003, her family decided to disinter her body and bury her at Pierce Brothers Valley Oaks Memorial Park in Westlake Village.
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Oh, that's a much better place. It's so much better for everybody. A longtime industry friend of my dad's was responsible for picking Mrs. Carpenter up.
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I think it's missed. Carpenter up and transporting her to her second and final resting place.
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While en route from Cemetery A to Cemetery B, his hearse broke down on the side of the road.
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And what might you ask came on the radio just that very moment. The sweet serenading voice of Karen Carpenter singing, we've only just begun.
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Oh my God. This is such a dad story. I love it. Because that's the funniest possible song that could play.
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I know my dad's friend was spooked by the incident, but I like to think it was Karen's way of having a little fun from the great beyond.
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She's like, let me have a minute not in a grave and just like chill out here. Yes.
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Can you just pull over by the side of the road and I'm going to prank you? Because I just want one last prank.
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Yes. Thank you for all that you do, especially being so vocal about mental health and making the rest of us murderinos feel like we're not alone.
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Stay sexy and watch out for ghosts of 1970 pop stars playing practical jokes. Devin.
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Goodbye. That's amazing. Okay, this is just a nice email. Okay. It's not a hometown, but...
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So, update. Portland girl whose house burned down. Remember the girl we met? We met a girl at one of the Portland shows who's really lovely, and her fucking house
00:23:10
had just burned down. It had just burned down. Was it the same day or like that week?
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It was like that week. Yeah. It was a lot. I think she said something about it in here, so let's see.
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Hello to some of my favorite beings on Earth. That means you too, Steven. Oh. Oh.
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I just wanted to update you guys and give a few more details on my situation. I met you both at the Portland live show and briefly mentioned my house burning down and how amazing the Portland murderinos have been.
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They were also there for me emotionally. I have horrible chronic anxiety and I know I would not have made it through the past month calmly if it weren't for my amazing murderino friends.
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I'm settling to a new apartment finally and my kitty Crookshanks is still a hilarious asshole.
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which is a good thing, of course. On top of all this amazingness, they have come through yet again
00:24:00
coworker and fellow murderino who has been harassed lately by her ex-boyfriend. The Portland murderinos have given her lawyerino help, sent her a doorbell camera, and sat with
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and how incredible the women of this group are. I'm extremely grateful to them and to you guys.
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And the community here is literally the only reason I have friends in the city. That's amazing.
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Love Jess. That's so good. Wow. What a beautiful ending. I remember her. I know.
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And I love that she was saying how she was just new to the city. And like, those are the people who came to fucking help her.
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Yeah. It's incredible. That's beautiful. And I would want to say, cause she said she wouldn't have been able to get through it calmly
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in your life calmly. True. This is when you get to freak out and you get to be dependent.
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And don't hold yourself to those ridiculous standards. Something terrible happened to you.
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You're lucky enough to have people that are there to help you, but you're not supposed to be fucking calm.
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If you need to scream at the sky, your house burned down. You get to. That's really lovely.
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That's true. I appreciate that. I'm always trying to keep my shit together and not like seem like a,
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like a monster or depressed person in front of Vince. But it's like, well, sometimes I'm a fucking depressed person.
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Right. And it's like in trying to control it in some ways, you can't control it in other ways.
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It's, it's a nice, like noble idea. Yeah. But then it just creates too much pressure.
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Right. You know what I mean? There's no need dealing with your fucking house burning.
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And you don't expect him to do that for you. He doesn't have to be like Mr. Perfect all the time.
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It'd be, I just want to say it'd be nice. You know, I just want to say one quick message to it would be nice.
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