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MFM Minisode 100

December 10, 2018 /

This episode celebrates the 100th minisode of My Favorite Murder, featuring stories about hometown murders, personal anecdotes, and listener emails. Key topics include the FBI's investigation of a family, a bizarre drug rehab experience, and a connection to Mary Vincent's case.

The hosts, Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, encourage listeners to share their hometown murder stories, reminiscing about their own experiences. They discuss the impact of local crime stories on their interest in true crime.

One listener shares a story about their grandmother's family being investigated by the FBI in 1932, mistakenly suspected of kidnapping the Lindbergh baby. This anecdote highlights the confusion and chaos of the situation.

Another email recounts a listener's experience in a drug rehab program that turned out to be cult-like, emphasizing the strange behaviors encouraged within the group.

Finally, a listener shares a connection to Mary Vincent's lawyer, detailing the importance of advocating for victims of violent crime. The episode concludes with humorous reflections on family dynamics and the absurdities of life.

TLDR

The 100th minisode features hometown murder stories, bizarre rehab experiences, and connections to true crime cases, celebrating listener contributions.

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Goodbye. My favorite world Hello! Welcome to the 100th Minisode. Hi. That was perfect.
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That's right. You've sent us all of your emails. Yes. telling us stories about all kinds of shit.
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I'd like to request. We requested so many weird fucking things. Yes. I'd like to request.
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I'd like to go back to number one. Yeah. Send us your hometown murders because nobody sends us hometown murders anymore.
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Have you noticed that? Everything. Well, because it's this continuing discussion.
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So everyone's sending us the follow up of the follow up, which I fucking love. It's very fun.
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But I feel like in each episode, we each need to have a murder, a hometown murder.
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Here's the crazy thing that happened in my fucking town. Jacob Wetterling, whatever the fuck.
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Your JonBenet, you know, connection as your cousin, whatever. Yeah. The thing that made you interested in true crime in the first place.
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Right. And sometimes that is, it doesn't have to be a direct thing, but you can just tell that little story.
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We want to slice the life of your hometown and what happened in it that turned you on.
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Keep sending us shit in the walls. We love uncle stories. Your uncles are fucking insane.
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If your uncle's an alien, even better. All that shit. Let's go upstairs. Let's go downstairs.
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Yeah. We want it all. That's right. I always go first. Do you want to go first? Since it's the 100th, we could start a new tradition?
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I feel like let's start with 101 because I don't want to ruin this roll around. You're right.
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What if this breaks all the juju and we're done? Do you have a good ending story?
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Yes. Because I don't. I sure do. Okay, then maybe I will go first. Do it. Oh, my God.
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Step forward and take your life. I'm so nervous. Right now. I'm scared. uh that one time the fbi swore my grandmother's farm yes here we go this is what i'm in it for
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it's just hi great i spent the last few weeks putting together a family true for my mom who
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is obsessed with genealogy but can't use a computer to save her life good at least she
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can admit it here's the problem computers can't save your life they can only ruin it
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well except for those computers that restart your heart oh right right or the the ones you
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around your neck and you press the button. Life alert. I've fallen and I can't get up.
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That incredibly advanced computer can save your life. That's right. And doing so,
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I've been able to find records on my maternal family dating back to the 1500s. What? And even
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older ones from my paternal grandfather. Crazy. But I was having a hell of a time finding anything
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about my paternal grandmother. I was to the point that I was convinced she was a criminal when I
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remembered an interest she did with a local university. Oh. I was delighted listening to
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my late Nan, tells stories from her childhood when she casually mentions the time her family's farmhouse
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was swarmed by the FBI in 1932. Yes! As she tells it, her entire family had gathered on the porch
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to witness two black cars driving up the lane through a cloud of dust. I can fucking see it in the movie version.
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Tall blue sky in the background with green fields on either side. That's right. And blowing up that dirt driveway.
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Old tiny fucking FBI cars. Hardly any windows. it's all the metal black metal no air conditioning no and they have hats on that's right before the
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cars were fully stopped all of the agents had jumped out and were shouting she couldn't understand
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what anyone was saying all she knew was that her mother and blonde haired blue-eyed baby sister
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were sobbing and her brother was screaming take the diaper off what turns out one of the town's
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folks called in a tip claiming that my nan's family were the ones that kidnapped the Lindbergh baby
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And her brilliant brother was saying to take the diaper off to prove that their sibling was a girl.
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Clearly the Lindbergh kidnapping was big news if a child in a small Minnesota town knew enough to know that the baby was a boy.
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My favorite part about this whole ordeal is that she never told me anything about it nor did my dad Apparently I got my murderino tendencies from my mama Mackenzie Yes That rad
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That's a beautiful, that's perfect hometown story. Perfection in all ways. And also, I went, what a genius uncle, or was it an uncle?
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Whoever the guy that said, take the diaper off. Yeah. That's so, because in those moments you get all, you know, panicked and dazzled and you
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don't do. Show her the vagina. Just get that badge out there. Show them. That's essentially what he's saying.
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Prove that shit. Fine. I want you to yell it to me one day. I hope one day of my life.
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Take off the diaper, Georgia. Take it off and prove who you are. I don't want to.
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Okay. The subject line of my first email is, be careful that your rehab group isn't a cult.
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Oh. What's period up, period. Yes. So when I was in high school, like so many of us, I ended up in a drug rehab support group.
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Me too. Right? Called PDAP, Palmer Drug Abuse Program. This is where I picked up my smoking habit at 14.
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Fuck yeah, I've been there. Good. Yeah, right? Good. I thought, oh God, I thought it was so cool.
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Good. I thought it was so cool. Amongst other annoying habits that took me a while to break.
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The main rules of the program were broken down to three Fs. No fixing, no fighting, no fucking.
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We all broke every single rule many times. But with the exception of these rules, we were encouraged to vandalize, smoke underage, stick it to the man, and never sleep.
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The whole idea of PDAP involved, quote-unquote, enthusiastic sobriety. And thus, this group created crazy teenagers in the name of sobriety.
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Some of the activities involved in functions were siphoning gas out of cars early in the morning and setting the cul-de-sac on fire.
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Oh, my God. Getting quote unquote wedged, which was staying up for over 24 hours to get loopy enough to feel high or get a certain thought quote wedged in your mind.
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Oh my God. Right. I was only a part of the program seriously for about two years and then grew the fuck up while I watched a lot of my friends go down a really awkward path and end up weird adults.
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A few years ago, a friend of mine who was also in PDAP asked if I'd watched the documentary, The Group Yet.
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The Group. I don't know why I said it like that. the group yet and told me I needed to do it immediately. A few minutes in, I realized PDAP
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and other rehab programs that were similar were made by the same asshole who essentially created
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these programs all in a similar fashion. And they were all a hundred percent cult. Holy shit. I
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realized that PDAP checked off all the signs of cults and I was definitely in it for a few years.
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And I'm both so excited to say that I was in a cult and somehow got out safely, but also horrified with just a pinch of shame that I was in it for two years.
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Check your support groups and make sure they're legit. Katie. That's so crazy. I totally understand because you think of cults being like,
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you become this mindless, brainless, can't think for yourself, like do whatever everyone says,
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but it's like, you don't think of it as being a fucking crazy person and like, like going bananas and having fun and shit.
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Right. Exactly. Yeah. If it's, if it's, um, if there's behavior influence, but you're kind of enjoying it,
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then of course you don't think you're in a cult. You're just like, I'm sober and I'm trying to have a different kind of life.
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My first like rehab, not rehab, like out of rehab going to meetings, like sort of like AA and stuff.
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Yeah. They were at where I went to Hebrew school as a kid, which we couldn't have, there weren't enough Jews in my town.
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So it was actually a Sunday school. Oh. So it was like a double weird thing. Did they use it for both?
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Did they turned one into a Sunday school? No, it was a Sunday school. the Jews showed up and pretended that there wasn't stuff about Jesus on the walls for Saturday
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school for Saturday school and then the fucking drug addicts and alcoholics showed up on Monday
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morning Monday morning where I as a 14 year old chain smoked out front as well and thought it was
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super cool you're just layers every main thing in your life happened in that building that's right
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layers upon layers um that was that was fucking great it's good right but also I want to watch
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That's so bad. The group is what that documentary is called. I definitely want to watch it.
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And also, it's just a good thing to remember. If you are vulnerable or you're in a place where you're asking for help, that's when the real wolves come out.
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So it's a very good message. Don't ever ask for help. Is that what you're going to say?
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Yep. Be careful and don't trust anybody. Yeah, don't light shit on. If you find yourself in your life siphoning gas, unless it's the fucking end days, which then do it.
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Right. Be careful. until the uh grid goes down we all are basically like in the military um let's not siphon gas but
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at that point there's not gonna cars aren't gonna run on gas anyways never mind let's get off this
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topic because i could talk about it for days okay my dad was being investigated as the green river
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killer shit hi guys when my father was a young single and mustached 20 something
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yeah he was out with a friend one night in washington state while at a while at a bar i'm
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assuming close to the Green River, he struck up a conversation with a hot chick, quote unquote.
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After a while, they decided to go back to her place and continue, dot, dot, dot,
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stuff my dad shouldn't be talking to me about. He proceeds to tell me that after many slight attempts of taking her clothes off,
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she kept squirming away but still making out with him. Confused, my dad straight up asked what's going on and if he should leave.
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The woman gets up and grabs handcuffs. My dad at this point thinks maybe she's into that kind of thing.
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She proceeds to tell him that she's actually an undercover cop and she's been watching him all night because he fits the profile of the Green River Killer.
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Oh my God. But she made out with him? She made out with him. And then it's also like, prove it.
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You just grabbed handcuffs? That doesn't mean you're fucking cop. Yeah, you need to see a badge A.
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I want the SWAT team coming in and shit. If I was him, I'd be like, but you were letting me cup your boob?
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How long does this stakeout go on before you call it Maybe she had a crush on him She was into that murderer She continues to say that she lured him back to her place to see if he was going to try to murder her So naturally after seeing he obviously wasn going to get going to murder her she says
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he can go. But the bold ass guy that my father is, he just says, well, I mean, I still really like
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you. So let's keep hanging out. Yes. They end up dating for two months. Yes. Was she really a cop?
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Yes. It was real. It was real. But they were like still into each other. Right. okay so that's why she was doing it yeah she was into it my boo i'm gonna at least get a
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fucking minute of this i work so hard i work so hard you deserve this peggy peggy you deserve
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some me time you know what you're you're squirming away because you're thinking of your boss and the
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captain in your head but how about you give peggy a little peggy time yeah peggy deserves it uh
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okay this is one of my dad's many extraordinary stories but the best part is that he told this
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one for the first time three years ago on my mom's birthday at pf chang's yes my mom was pissed she
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had never heard it in their entire 30-year marriage and he decided to tell it now well she has her
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appropriately loud reactions he just chews his sesame chicken giggles and says yeah that guy
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killed like 80 people what that's not the right number but i love that on a quiet pf chang summer
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night with my sweet 65 year old mother looking her best. My dad had the internal thought of,
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you know what? Tonight's the night I got to tell this fucking story. Thanks for entertaining me
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sitting at pf chang's fully pissed you had a fucking history before you met me i'm sorry
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you're are you telling me you made out with some girl what the fuck you dated someone for two months
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before you married me for 40 years that story should have started started i'm sorry diane yeah
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diane and peggy then peggy comes in peggy's their waiter then peggy's like their their waiter takes
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off his mask it's peggy she arrests him he is the green river killer turns out this whole time
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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Goodbye. The subject line of this email is, my best friend's dad was Mary Vincent's lawyer.
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Holy shit. Come on. Hello, MFM boss ladies, pod producing guru, and plethora of pets.
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So, um, over the long weekend, my best friend came home to visit from New York. We met up in orange County.
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Hey, and sorry, beige apologies all around and ended up having dinner with her parents
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at one of our favorite spots. I've always known her dad was a badass lawyer, but I've never really asked about his cases
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because I didn't want to sound too intrusive. While at dinner, he told us that he recently had a meeting to talk about one of his most
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high profile cases, a case where a young woman had her arms chopped off. I swear I must have looked like a crazy person in this tiny restaurant when I squealed oh my God was it Mary Vincent and indeed indeed it was I have chills right now right her dad went on to tell me that he represented Mary
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pro bono throughout her case against her attacker and even went with Mary in front of Congress
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advocating for the no second chances for murderers rapist or child molesters act of 1998
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how fun I've never heard of that I have fucking chills so I'm like I'm saying I've never heard of
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that. And I'm like, did I say it in my story? You might've. Um, that's amazing. Okay. Yeah.
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Oh, when we returned to their home after dinner, he showed me photos of him and Mary speaking before
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Congress. And he told me about how Mary used to babysit my best friend and how her sons and my
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best friend love to play together as kids. I am still blown away by the fact that I have such a
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close connection with someone who knows Mary. It shows how small the world is, but it also put,
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puts things back into perspective that these horrific things happen to real people. And while
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it's so depressing, it's so important to highlight these awful things so that we can try to
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prevent them from happening again in the future. As a 25-year-old Angeleno, I have to thank you both from the bottom of my
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heart for confirming my love for true crime isn't weird, my neuroses are valid, and the constant reminder to
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lock my doors. All the best, Taylor. Taylor! Such a good email, Taylor. Oh, that was amazing.
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Yeah, that's very cool. If you, Taylor, took a picture of the picture of Mary I bet Stephen could find one.
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I'd love to see a picture of Mary Vincent testifying before Congress. I would too.
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That's I just, the fact that she did that so bad, it's unbelievable. And what a great fucking law that should absolutely always be passed.
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Yes. Fuck you. Murders, rapists and child molesters. Unless you're one of those three things.
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Oh, that's, it's a very special hundredth episode. I'm here to tell you about my past.
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Oh my God. Is that it? Or do you have one more? I have one more. You have one more.
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Okay. Well, great. Let's do it then. Okay, this one's creepy. My stereotypically creepy uncle.
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There's been a lot of uncles lately. Uncles all around. I'm telling you, they're fucking creeps.
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Sorry, Uncle Michael and Uncle Gene. I honestly believe we solicited for Uncle's story.
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I think you're right. Then that makes sense. We're still amazed by the response.
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Why did everyone keep writing about murder? God. God, that's so weird. Hi, Karen, Georgia, Stephen, and Katz that can't understand me.
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I am the youngest in my family, so I was always babied. Whenever something dramatic with my family went down, it was always talked about in whispers,
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so I've only found out about certain things now that I'm in my 30s. My brother recently told me something highly disturbing about my Uncle Mike.
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He said that one summer in the mid-90s, while he was helping him pack to move out of his house
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after a messy divorce and cocaine addiction, fun! That'll do it to you. Our Uncle Mike ran out to pick up pizza.
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My brother stayed behind by himself and continued packing. He came across a large trunk that was extremely heavy.
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He was curious, of course, so he popped it open. It was filled with a broom with VHS tapes.
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He said there had to be at least 100. They were all unlabeled, and he couldn't resist seeing what this was about.
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It's like you're just asking. Yeah, you're, this is, yep, you want to know bad news.
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Yeah. He put the top one into the VHS player and hit play. He was dumbfounded when the image on the screen was the inside of a toilet.
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Looking outward toward the user of said toilet. Yep, a toilet cam. My uncle Mike had a camera in the toilet of his house for years, apparently.
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I wouldn't call myself super tech savvy. I still have no idea how he pulled this off, but I have no doubt that he did.
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He was a highly paid defense attorney in our city and had his home remodeled and customized
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many times. I can only imagine what kind of creepy ass wiring system he had going on in there.
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I can only expect that his three daughters and son are on it, all guests and of course
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me. Needless to say, I never answer my uncle's calls. Even when one year he left a very sad voicemail around Christmas,
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bemoaning the fact that he doesn't have much family left. It's true. We don't. Much of our immediate family has passed, including my mother, his sister.
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I moved two states away about 10 years ago, and I have learned enough about life to accept that being related by blood
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isn't an obligation to keep toxic people in your life, especially when they have recorded fucking footage of you paying.
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That's hell fucking right on. That's amazing. SSU GM and check every toilet before you do your biz, Mary.
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And it's super creepy and awful, but I do like that some people like my father killed someone and it's this thing of like,
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that's a, that doesn't define you. Not about you at all. It doesn't make you a bad person or it's
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the relation isn't a connection. Yeah. And you can cut people out of your lives that are talks.
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I'm just interested. Did that guy just shut that thing? And then they were like,
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we just can't talk to that uncle anymore. It sounds like it. It doesn't sound like he went,
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they went to the police. I mean, you wouldn't know what to do. I'm sure. It's so awful. It's so crazy.
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who well i'll lighten it up would you please that's why i was like do you have something
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light to hand this is good um the subject line is politically correct job uh job title for garbage
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man hello mfm clan okay so my dad has been a garbage man for almost 40 years he some years
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ago said that his job title had job title had officially changed uh he is no longer a garbage
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man he goes on to say in a booming but fancy voice i am now an energy resource recovery field
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representative oh i said laughing that's a mouthful can i just refer to you as a garbage man and he
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smiles and goes yeah honey we don't give a shit what you call us just don't forget us during the
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holidays oh over the years uh he's been asked many times by the local police to salvage garbage
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retrieved at certain addresses one of which was the home of a boy that my teenage at the time
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sister hung out with we don't know what they were searching for and we were never told but he didn't
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want her hanging out with that boy anymore. I want to know. Right. Thanks for all those wonderful.
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Thanks for all this wonderful podcast. Stay sexy. Don't get murdered. Oh, and garbage men like cash, gift cards and booze duct taped to their garbage can.
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Yes. You please remember if you are in the position to give gifts at Christmas, your mail person and your garbage man deserve gifts more than anybody.
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As someone who lives in an apartment building and it's like you just you never see them and you don't know if you have regular them all the time.
00:24:15
Like it's the same person every time. You still do that. Yeah, I've never done it.
00:24:19
Same here because it's a different mailman every time. But one time I just opened the door and handed her a bottle of booze.
00:24:25
The one I see the most. Okay, that makes sense. You know what I mean? And it's not like you have to have a personal relationship or whatever.
00:24:32
But it's nice for the people that kind of haul ass around for your benefit. Sure.
00:24:37
If you have the ability to give them a tip, it's nice. I've never tipped my, I'm not saying that.
00:24:41
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never tipped the garbage man. I've never even thought of it.
00:24:44
No, me neither. That's so smart. Like, how do you do it? You fucking duct tape it to the goddamn garbage can.
00:24:49
You get a bottle of Jack Daniels. That's right. Tuck tape, tape it to the top of that garbage can and then stand in your front window and
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watch it. and make sure your local teens don't fucking steal it and you get arrested for providing teens with fucking alcohol.
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Episode Highlights

  • Dr. Death the Cowboy
    A charming neurosurgeon becomes a figure of trust, but leaves devastation in his wake.
    “He promised to heal them. Instead, he left a trail of broken bodies.”
    @ 00m 48s
    December 10, 2018
  • A Family Story of FBI Intrusion
    A grandmother recounts a shocking childhood memory of an FBI raid.
    “Her family's farmhouse was swarmed by the FBI in 1932.”
    @ 04m 48s
    December 10, 2018
  • Cult-like Rehab Experiences
    A former rehab participant realizes their program was cult-like in nature.
    “I was definitely in it for a few years.”
    @ 08m 30s
    December 10, 2018
  • Mary Vincent's Lawyer
    A listener discovers a personal connection to a high-profile true crime case.
    “I have chills right now.”
    @ 18m 05s
    December 10, 2018
  • Creepy Uncle Mike's Secret
    A shocking family revelation about a hidden camera in a toilet.
    “My uncle Mike had a camera in the toilet of his house for years, apparently.”
    @ 21m 18s
    December 10, 2018
  • Tipping Garbage Men
    A humorous take on how to tip your garbage man during the holidays.
    “You fucking duct tape it to the goddamn garbage can.”
    @ 24m 46s
    December 10, 2018

Episode Quotes

  • He promised to heal them. Instead, he left a trail of broken bodies.
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  • Take off the diaper, Georgia.
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  • Check your support groups and make sure they're legit.
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  • What a great fucking law that should absolutely always be passed.
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  • Needless to say, I never answer my uncle's calls.
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  • You fucking duct tape it to the goddamn garbage can.
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Key Moments

  • Greed and Betrayal00:51
  • Summer Vibes01:08
  • Hometown Murders02:37
  • Cult Realization08:30
  • Mary Vincent Connection18:05
  • Creepy Family Secrets19:59
  • Uncle Mike's Disturbing Story20:26
  • Milestone Celebration25:10

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