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What's up, Honolulu? What? Oh! We're getting, we're, we're, we're ways. We're like racehorses up here.
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Are these crowns? Oh. Oh, where's yours? I smell good now, too. I mean, this is fucking cool.
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It's so bananas that we're here, because what really happened is, like, our tour agents always like,
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here's where the numbers are. You're going here. You're going to Des Moines. And we're like, okay.
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And then once in a blue moon, we'll be like, can we go to... And, like, Hawaii's the second one we ever did that way.
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When do either of us ever use that tone of voice, ever? We're like, this is my voice.
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We're like, sorry, we're going to Detroit in February. What's this now? Is the tone of voice that you usually use.
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What if my real voice, this is my podcasting voice? Is my real voice? And what if I'm like the Theranos lady, my real voice?
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My voice is like this, actually. When I start actually talking about my murder and blood samples,
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just a drop of blood. Just a simple drop of blood. The whole thing was fake. I love it.
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That's not this podcast. Sorry. Different podcast. And then we said, can we go to Hawaii?
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And he said, okay. And now we're fucking here. It's great. Look at it. We're here and we're real.
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We're real. I had so much to say. Oh. Look what we saw. This is like the first thing that we saw.
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Yeah. Maybe over there. Yeah. There's just no direction. Stephen. Stephen. Yeah.
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Yeah. Good job, guys. That's where Barry grew up with his grandma. Yeah. Thanks for raising up a good one.
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We're sorry. God. Just amazing. Truly. Stephen. Stephen is not here. We brought our friend Lizzie instead.
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Truly. This is becoming like a kind of thing where every single live show we say Stephen's not here.
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Every single for, you know, like 40 live shows. And still the audience is like, aww.
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Like, this is our line. Dang it. Yeah, that's true. And then Stephen rises up from the back.
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I bought my own plane ticket, bitches. Wait, who's watching the cats? Actually, my dad is watching the cats.
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We're letting him back in the house, even though we almost... Marty. He said, he texted me, tell everyone I say hello.
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I'm not... He said, tell everyone I say hello. So, hello from Marty. But I, in a fit of sadness last weekend when we were away and missing the cats,
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bought a way too expensive cat monitor. It's just a video thing. it's amazing and now i'm not stop talking to them please i beg i beg you like cats or the audience
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jesus christ i was gonna put a photo up but it turns out you can see my disgusting bedroom when
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did you put it up no i did not oh you're like there's no way anyone's gonna see that picture
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it's terrible venetian blinds i mean what are the ones that are yeah yeah no like level or blinds
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The up and down ones Vertical blinds Vertical blinds Why do you have vertical blinds
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Shane, when everybody has those? Okay, I don't know. You don't own that apartment.
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Okay. That's your landlord's bad taste. I'm gonna let go. This is My Favorite Murder,
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the podcast. This is Karen Kilgariff. This is Georgia Hartstark. I'm actively sweating.
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Oh, my God. So much sweat. Tell me about your dress. Oh, this old thing? Well, normally I wear just an all-black version of this,
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but I was like, I can't go to Hawaii and just wear all-black like a weird goth. I mean, I know I can.
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I know I can and that they exist here. 808 State was a great band. Believe me. I've lived it.
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But I was like, yeah, I need to bring that floral look into it a little bit. So I did.
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And of course, I got this dress because it has pockets. Yeah. Whatever turns out, we're both terribly allergic to these flowers.
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Just deathly. deathly allergic. Yeah. I'm wearing a dress that I bought when we were in another
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city that we were like, can we go there? Amsterdam. It's a good one. And we went to this vintage shop and I tried a bunch
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of stuff on and I didn't like anything but the guy was so nice and eager that I felt bad so I bought
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this $13 dress that I ended up loving but I've never had a chance to wear it. Well, and now's your time.
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Walk it back and forth. Do a whole thing. I'm bad at that. Well, should we sit down?
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Let's do it. I have to take one layer of flowers off. I know. I'm sorry. Me too.
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I feel crowded. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my hair. It's just on me. Did we do that wrong? Is that rude?
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Okay. Yes, it's definitely rude. That's just how it is. These are so gorgeous. They're so gorgeous.
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They are. They smell good. I like them. Why don't you tell them about this podcast?
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Oh, okay. Hey, guys. I feel like everybody here knows. We're so thrilled to be here.
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We're so thrilled. And we realize that we've really tapped your population. And we honestly were like, we might show up and there's like 62 people there.
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It's a very good chance. We were like, we don't give a shit. We're not going to do it.
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We're doing this thing. We got here. We got backstage. And I like to pronounce it the Aloha Arenos.
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Sent back. Yeah. Is that right? Sent back boxes upon bags upon boxes of Hawaiian treats for us.
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It was insane. I am so high on sugar right now. We've been eating things. Okay, that lemon coconut cake bomb thing,
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I think it's from Pipeline Bakery. Holy shit. Holy shit. That salty malasada situation.
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Oh, everything. You guys. Incredible. I really have eaten so much sugar today. Also, there was just a bag of Hawaiian chips.
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We're like, yeah. The rare Hawaiian chip. So thank you. Thank you. Yes. Thank you so much, you guys.
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That was so nice of you. Yeah. What a lovely welcome. Yeah. It's almost like Aloha.
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So, you know, the Aloha Arenas know where they are and what's going on. But for all the people who might have season tickets to this theater or whose partner might have dragged them along against their will,
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we just do a quick explanation for you at the top of this because this is a true crime comedy
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podcast and sometimes when people hear that combination they immediately get defensive or
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they get offended or they say how dare you do that or you can't do that and so we like to start
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this show off by saying that when you listen to this podcast and and you know us and you get to
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know us you understand that the comedy part is just our natural personality it's the expression
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of each other. It's how we talk to each other. And then it's us talking about the thing that we've
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both been obsessed with since we were like 12 years old. It's a thing that we love and that
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we're super fascinated by. And so we process it together and it is the worst of humanity. These
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are the stories that are the worst of humanity. Parallel to that is the comedy. It's not of that.
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And so that seems to be an important point to make to some people. The people, I think, who get offended by stuff like that,
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we just want to say top of the show, you probably should get the fuck out. Yeah.
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Your friend will meet you in the lobby. There's a great beach nearby. Yeah. Is there? I don't know.
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All right. Okay. Here we go. We're going to do... We're going to get rid of Obama's apartment.
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How do we do it? I don't remember. Huh, four, six, eight. Which way is it gonna be?
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That way? No. Maybe someone else will do it. Okay. Under the table works. No. No.
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Well, it's gonna stay up there all night forever. Picture, if you will, a brown apartment building.
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Okay, now I'm angry at it. Ah, there we go. How'd you do that? What did you do? I don't know. I don't know.
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I think it's that way. Anyways, this is the murder of Yvonne Matheson. Wow. Okay, great, because I'm going to tell you about it.
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Either way. Let me first tell you about the town Hilo. All right? Man, that place seems chill as fuck.
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If I've been to Hilo Hatties, would I know anything about Hilo? I don't know. Okay.
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It's on the Big Island, of course. It's larger than the state of Connecticut. Like, anyone fucking knows how big that is?
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Can I just say, like, using that as a, like, oh, that's huge. Oh, I'm from California.
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Nothing makes sense. We don't even think about Connecticut, ever. So we don't know.
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But let's pretend it's huge. It's fine. But even though there's only a little over 150,000 people, that's less than Connecticut, I'm guessing.
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Is it? Probably. Someone wrote this. It's got the fucking active volcanoes going on, mountains.
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It's beautiful. A bunch of fucking hippies went there and stayed there. Sure. So it's kind of a chill place, a little sleepy, not as much tourism as here.
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so they wouldn't, for example, want me to go there. I don't know. Oh, I get it. You know, yeah.
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Is that where Oprah lives? That's Mallee. That wasn't a sincere question. Yeah. All night long.
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And they're known, and this is why, they're known for their sweet potato bread, which I'm like, sign me the fuck up for that shit.
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Okay, so in the 1960s, a dude named Ken Matheson, he's a kid. He moves to Hawaii from Alaska.
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He's 13. That's a big change. Yeah. Let's just talk about he immediately got the flu when he landed here.
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Purely because of the temperature change. And Alaska is smaller than Connecticut.
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I don't know. This is not a geography podcast. This podcast, it's true crime, and it's also Connecticut-based.
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So as long as everyone gets the reference points, I think we'll be fine. Right. However, okay, so he comes here as a kid when he's 13 because his dad becomes the reverend in the town of Hilo,
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and later he becomes the police chaplain at Hilo's only police place. Station? Thank you.
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They adjust to their new lifestyle, of course, because it's not Alaska anymore, and so they're like, this is great, probably.
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You can imagine. So many less timber wolves. Right. Yeah. So then he's 18. He goes to college on the mainland and joins the military.
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He's discharged in 1976, comes home at 26 years old, and he takes a job waiting tables at a local restaurant called Ken's House of Pancakes.
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Open 24 hours after a party. We'll all swim there. now did ken franchise this and turn his name change his first name to international
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by any chance totally different business uh-huh flat roof yeah okay totally different okay but it
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looks rad i have a feeling that a lot of young uh outsider goth punks had grilled cheeses at one
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in the morning there sure and said i want to get out of here i hate it here you know like they do
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Connecticut. Okay, so he gets his job. I'm sorry, Connecticut. I'm sure you're lovely.
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I just pictured two goths being pen pals, one in Hilo and one in Connecticut. Perhaps New Haven I didn pick a city but just writing to each other about I crying It really touched you It did All right So Ken works at Ken house of pancakes No relation
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And pretty soon, though, this beautiful waitress catches his eye, and he has to know who she is.
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Her name's Yvonne Martins. And she's born and raised in Hilo. She's from a poor Portuguese family.
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They're really tight-knit and close. and she grows up as the oldest kid basically raising her siblings because her parents were working
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and teaching them how to read and write. She's just this lovely, nurturing woman.
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And she had gotten married the year after she graduated high school way back in 1965.
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But by 11 years later where we're at she starts waitressing at the Pancake House.
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She has two kids and a divorce. So she's like, here we are. That's life at Ken's house of pancakes.
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I mean, you know what I mean? It's fast living. Yeah. It's carb-based. Yeah. It's the same size as Connecticut.
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I don't have to tell you guys. These are the last people I have to tell. I know.
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Of course, Ken and Yvonne, she's this beautiful, lovely woman. They fall in love, and within a year, they're married to each other.
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A photo of... Can I do this? Try it. Good luck. Thank you. You're challenging me.
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Damn it. You can do it. Oh, there we go. There we go. Sweet baby angel. So they get married, but her family aren't stoked on Ken.
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They think that he's taking advantage of her vulnerability, having been in a new divorce, being a single mother.
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And her sister-in-law describes Yvonne as an angel, an actual angel, saying that she would do anything for anybody else before herself.
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So they were a little, like, not into how quickly she jumped into this new marriage.
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after they got married Ken joins the Hawaii County PD it's the island's only law enforcement agency
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sheriff place, police place as I call it he let's see he starts in the undercover unit
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he's promoted to sergeant in 1985 but he wants to do other things like construction
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so sorry you don't see the You don't see the... No, no, I mean, like, you can have your hobbies.
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That's fine. Right. I mean... I enforce the law all day long, but then I want to lift a bunch of bags of cement to relax.
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I mean, those are two different jobs, you know, full-time, I would think. Yeah, pick your second...
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What you're interested in can be a thing that's also not a job. Right. Yeah. That you do on your time, like knitting.
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Put your feet up. Yeah. How about... You just like TV. Yeah. You just like TV. That's our hobby.
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Yeah, hello. It's a good hobby. So he builds a home for the family. Oh, with the construction interest.
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Sorry. That whole thing was a setup for building a house. No, no, no, no. There's more.
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Okay. You're not wrong. Got it. So Yvonne and her two kids, they all live there with their son that they have together,
00:21:08
Ken and Yvonne, named Michael. And in 1986, then he builds a small shopping center on the west side of the island.
00:21:15
Wow. Yeah. His own? No, like for everyone. It's not private. Is that what you mean?
00:21:22
It would be cool if you opened your own shopping center. You're like, I'm sorry, this is mine.
00:21:27
It's Karen's Payless Shoes source. I'm sorry. Build your own. I mean, build your own.
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How about you build your own? Truly. He builds a public shopping center. Be nice if you specified.
00:21:41
You're right. My bad. Is the shopping center bigger than Connecticut? No. No. But, okay, so, yeah, it's, you know, you know what a shopping center looks like.
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Sure. But pretty soon, so no tenants are moving into the shopping center. He's just built.
00:22:00
So they start to have money problems, which, of course, we all know, turns into fighting and relationship problems because money.
00:22:08
Yeah. So they're fighting a lot, and her family starts to notice little things changing about her,
00:22:14
like she's wearing sweaters on a really hot day. and then one time her brother who's like this, I got a lot of this from
00:22:20
City Confidential as an episode of that and her sweet brother is just like amazing
00:22:26
he saw some bruises on her arms and she blew it off as like, you know, I was helping
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build things which is like no, yeah so she denies that he had anything to do with it and
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but one day they're having marital problems, she calls him at the police station and be like
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Ken where are you? And then they're like oh you didn't know he transferred to a different station
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out of here? And that's how she found out that he left her. What? I know. It's totally fucked up.
00:23:00
So they get a divorce and her family's like relieved even though she's unhappy but she's really worried about raising
00:23:08
her kids without a father and so she becomes a maternity nurse at the Hilo Medical Center
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and starts to do stuff on her own, but pretty soon she and Ken reconcile, and they remarry in 1991.
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But what about the part where he fucking ghosted her and his own shopping center?
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No, he took that with him. Oh, he did? Folded it up in a little suitcase? It's portable.
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It's a wave of the future. She tries to make it work. Yeah, she wants her kids to have a dad.
00:23:42
So he's, oh god, in the City Confidential, they interview him in the way that's like,
00:23:49
we're gonna pretend he's not in prison, so you don't know. I'm so onto that shit where it's like,
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oh, I see your light blue shirt. Yeah, he's got a light blue shirt. He's in a room that looks like adult
00:24:00
daycare yes like a painting on the wall yeah yeah it's like let's brighten this place up a little
00:24:07
it's still prison yeah you know yeah and he just had the way he speaks it sounds like he really
00:24:12
needs a sip of water and his mic is turned up all the way well both of those things could have been
00:24:17
happening that's true but it was just this weird you know the thing where you go he's guilty like
00:24:23
you know yes even though it just doesn't the jail mostly makes me do that yeah that'll do it yeah
00:24:28
And the fact that he's guilty. Yeah. Okay. So he claims that they started dating more.
00:24:36
He quit construction so he could spend more time with him, her. But he's saying this from prison, so, you know, take it with a grain of salt.
00:24:44
And so one day on November 27th, the day after Thanksgiving, 1992, Ken and Yvonne spend a day with her family.
00:24:51
They all say it was a great day. They were, like, really hopeful that things would be on the up and up now.
00:24:55
and then they drive away for a romantic getaway and there's a downpour that day and it's the rainiest place in the country.
00:25:05
Did you know this? Hilo? Or no, the island? It's always raining, but this is like an extra downpour,
00:25:12
like double time, global warming style. And so police aren't surprised later when they get a call about a traffic accident
00:25:22
on a winding mountain road. It happens all the time, but when the patrolman shows up,
00:25:26
it's something he's never fucking seen before. There's a van in the ditch on the side of the road,
00:25:32
and when the patrolman comes up, he finds Kenneth Matheson holding his wife's body,
00:25:40
like, you know, cradling her. They rush Yvonne to the hospital, but she passes away.
00:25:46
And then Ken's father, remember, he's the fucking chaplain, he has to call her family to be like,
00:25:52
to tell them what happened, which is insane. And so what Ken's story is, is that he and Yvonne were driving to the small town of Volcano at the top of the mountain.
00:26:04
They're going to spend a romantic weekend alone. She's driving. They get in a fight.
00:26:09
And she just jumps out of the slow-moving van that she was driving. That's his story.
00:26:15
That she was driving? Uh-huh. Okay. That she just... Listen, I've gone out with people where I want to jump out of the car, for sure.
00:26:24
I may have even tried it a time or two. But you'd stop the car first, probably. Or I was just the passenger.
00:26:30
It's a different thing. Yeah. Right. It's not, that's not the smartest story to give people.
00:26:37
Exactly. So he says he had to take off his seatbelt and heroically climb into the driver's seat to get control of the car.
00:26:44
It's raining, everything. And he says he drives up and down the road searching for her.
00:26:49
He can't find her in the downpour. and when he does find her, she's on the side of the road
00:26:53
bloody and lifeless and he picks her up and tries to put her in the van and hold her until he
00:26:58
flags down a coming car and tells them to get police and then he tells police he thinks he ran over
00:27:04
Yvonne when he was driving in the rain Okay Yeah Remember sounds like he needs water
00:27:16
that's a lying person That's someone with a big lie in their mouth. That's right.
00:27:22
And, yeah, okay, blue shirt. Connecticut. You know. Connecticut prison. You already know.
00:27:30
So, of course, Yvonne Stanley are like, fuck that shit. No, thank you. And they also think that he's faking grief.
00:27:40
And he has a scratch. Her brother notices he has scratches on his face and arms,
00:27:44
and they're always very suspicious. and so public suspicion people in the fucking town start to get suspicious
00:27:53
when the police classify Yvonne's death as a misdemeanor negligent homicide and turn the case
00:27:59
over to the traffic unit for a follow-up investigation so here's the thing about Hilo
00:28:05
is the relationship between the police and the public at that time was really strained
00:28:09
because since the mid-80s so this fucking island is huge and there's lots of places to hide the pot you're growing
00:28:15
and then the DEA is like no, we're going to find it and the people are like, can you just leave us alone
00:28:22
and they're like, no so there's kind of tension going on it's like that with guns
00:28:28
I would imagine it's that conversation but with a ton of guns and isn't it funny to think of it from that perspective
00:28:34
of this insane thing that was happening and now we can go by pot and smoke it on the street
00:28:38
it's so fucking bananas well, I mean, we can you'll get that there. It's on the way.
00:28:47
We saw on the way here the cannabis convention this weekend. Yes, get your tickets now.
00:28:53
Did you guys just come from there? Get your tickets because you'll forget. You'll be in front of the TV
00:28:59
and be like, I don't know. I don't feel like going to the cannabis convention anymore.
00:29:04
How many people have anxiety there? Too many people. That would be hilarious. It's a convention center full of people
00:29:11
who are lightly freaking out. We're just like, what's that guy doing over there?
00:29:16
He's like, he's freaking out too. You're all freaking out. Pot is too strong these days.
00:29:22
It's a thousand times stronger than it was 30 years ago. There's no need. There's no need for that.
00:29:28
It's a teeny little hit and you're good. Yeah. Even that. You let someone else take a hit.
00:29:34
You walk by, go, you're done. You're good. You'll be high for seven hours. I literally think she's talking to me.
00:29:43
Because I'm paranoid. No, because I... Okay. So, they're cracking down on the marijuana growers,
00:29:52
the police are mad the people are mad at everyone and they felt that the department wasn really paying attention to the people and it was kind of because her death was classified as a misdemeanor
00:30:05
as many islanders were fucking pissed off. So there's a Unitarian church group, and they
00:30:09
start an action committee. They're like, they're also like, fuck this shit. Yeah, Unitarians
00:30:15
are like that, aren't they? They're just in your face, fuck you type of people. Totally.
00:30:21
That's what I've always heard. And the basis is for an organization called Citizens for Justice.
00:30:28
And they cover the... They're like, we can't let the police get away with this. They cover the island with flyers and petitions
00:30:34
calling for an independent investigation of Yvonne's murder and demanding that Ken be fired.
00:30:41
So they're like, fuck this shit. Double time. They hold rallies and vigils. She was there for victims of violence.
00:30:49
or it's just a cat. There's like a huge cat in here. It's one of two things and they both rule.
00:31:00
Did I leave my phone? It's definitely a cat. And they hold rallies and vigils for victims of violence.
00:31:10
Apparently Unitarians are good people. Okay. Honey. I mean, of all the heckling that you could get, it's not the worst.
00:31:24
We've had worse. However, but where was I? We'll never know. They hold rallies and vigils for victims of violence.
00:31:36
Meanwhile, this dude named Martin Eleazar, he's the traffic investigator assigned to the case.
00:31:42
And he's investigating the biggest piece of evidence. I'm going to burp. The van.
00:31:48
So excuse me, I'm so sorry. I had so many sweets backstage. Okay, so he's looking at the van, biggest piece of evidence,
00:31:57
and he starts to get puzzled when he sees bloodstains and blood spatter on the driver's side window and door and door frame.
00:32:04
The one that she jumped out of, right? Remember? And on a bolt on the driver's side window,
00:32:09
he finds hair and tissue that suggests that her head had come in contact with that at some point.
00:32:15
So everything indicates that what happened wasn't a fucking traffic accident. And he sees that on the front of the van, there's no indication that he hit anyone.
00:32:25
So Hawaii prosecutor Kurt Spohn, Spohn? Probably. Great guy. He receives the traffic investigation findings.
00:32:37
He orders his own investigation into Ken's background, and they discover that after he and Yvonne had gotten remarried,
00:32:46
he took out a life insurance policy. Say it with me. Every time. Every single time.
00:32:53
For $400,000. $400,000. And if she died by accident, the coverage increased to over half a million.
00:33:02
And I feel like they shouldn't tell people this. If it was a result of an automobile accident,
00:33:07
the payout would be almost $700,000. So I feel like when they do life insurance policies, they should just be like, we're not telling you what makes the most money.
00:33:16
No. You know? I don't think there should be gradations of quality of death. If he falls from a cliff, it's this much.
00:33:24
Yeah. Totally. Yeah. If he's, I don't know, somehow taking a picture with his wife and she says, back up, no two more steps, and then falls into the Grand Canyon, that's $7 billion.
00:33:37
dollars. Anyway, let's see what happens. Go have fun. And when the autopsy report comes back,
00:33:45
it, of course, also pokes holes in Ken's story, there's defensive injuries on Yvonne's arms, and there are injuries to her head that weren't made by a fucking car.
00:33:53
And it looks like someone had hit her on the head with a pipe, is what they surmise. But then, because they had done
00:34:01
the autopsy thinking that it was an accident, so then they were like, we need to do this again with a forensic pathologist.
00:34:09
Puts a court order in to have her remains disinterred. Uh-oh, she's already been cremated by Ken.
00:34:16
Yep. So the attorney takes the evidence he has, ships it off for analysis to an FBI crime lab
00:34:27
where none other than Dr. Lee, our friend... Dr. Henry Lee? Dr. Henry Lee. Yes. Our friend and colleague.
00:34:35
He's one of my favorite colleagues, I would say. Second only to Georgia Hartsdark.
00:34:42
Thank you. You guys should see him at the Christmas party. He really lets loose.
00:34:47
It's just crazy. Months before the report comes back, meanwhile the Citizens for Justice are putting pressure on the police,
00:34:55
and finally in December 1993, over a year after Yvonne's death, the lab reports come back,
00:35:00
and the next day Ken is arrested and charged with second-degree murder. Yay. Here we go.
00:35:14
Nope. Wrong way. There we go. Look at this. Dick. Dry mouth. Dry mouth is a good slam.
00:35:24
Right? Yeah. That means you're a liar. It's 1995 when the case goes to trial, finally, and of course the courtroom's packed.
00:35:34
Ken's lawyer petitions to have him try it outside of the place where everyone hates him
00:35:39
and the judge is like, nope, okay He'll stay in the hate zone, the judge said Let's get a jury of your haters
00:35:48
Fair enough The jury goes into deliberations and Thanksgiving is the next day when they go into deliberations so everyone like alright they going to stop it You know you know how we all do on Thanksgiving No one gives a shit the day before the day after But they like no we fucking staying here until we have a verdict
00:36:08
And it only takes them three hours to announce that they have a verdict. Wow. And it's midnight when the jury foreman announces that Ken Matheson is guilty of second degree murder and kidnapping and sentenced him to life in prison.
00:36:21
Wow. And then they went to Thanksgiving dinner. Yeah, they did. That's got to be a hard one.
00:36:30
In 2009, so he, fuck his dick, like back and forth, tries to get his conviction overturned and his conviction shortened.
00:36:39
He sues the state in 2010 to disqualify the parole board. Whatever. They say it's patently frivolous.
00:36:48
It happens again. and he, a panel reduces his mandatory minimum sentence to life in prison to 25 years on the murder conviction,
00:36:56
which would mean he's eligible for parole on November 7th, 2020. But don't worry, he died in prison.
00:37:10
Just when the audience got super worried. Yep. Because they forgot about all the Unitarians
00:37:16
that were going to take care of business in 2020. Yeah, they got your back. But then the Lord himself came in and was like, stand down, Unitarians.
00:37:23
I'm taking care of this. Enough of this bullshit. Stand down. The Jews got this.
00:37:29
We're like, we'll take over. The Jews got this. We got this. We got it. She's Jewish, too?
00:37:37
Jesus Christ. Wait. So he dies in 2015, just shy of his 64th birthday. Oh, let's look at, I think his ugly old mug is on this.
00:37:48
I just don't... There's no... Okay. You're going to see it later when Karen... Jesus Christ.
00:37:56
Yeah, that's... Turn it off. Turn it off. Turn it off. I don't know how. Get it off there.
00:38:03
All right. And Yvonne's death, of course, remained... That looked like... Remember that tool video with the little animated things that, like, brush each other and stuff?
00:38:15
That's what that guy's face looked like to me. Like real like, oh, oh, I don't like it.
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Yvonne's death remains one of Hilo's most impactful cases. And of course, her family and friends miss her much.
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00:40:52
What is that? Dude, I found this at 3 a.m. last night. And I kept scrolling articles and going, I think I'm still asleep.
00:41:04
Because this is, it's just nuts. It's just nuts. Okay. Some of my sources are the magazine The Cut, the New York Post, the Daily Mail.
00:41:16
This story was everywhere, and it spans our whole great nation. Even Connecticut?
00:41:23
No. There was a ban on Connecticut when this took place. Okay. So I'm just going to start at the beginning.
00:41:32
Now known as the Yoga Twins, infamously, they were born Allison and Ann Dadao in Unica, New York in 1978.
00:41:43
They had an older sister, two years older, named Amy. Their mom tragically died when they were five years old.
00:41:50
And their mother death brought the three sisters even closer together during their formative years Allison and Ann had very active social life growing up They ran track they ran cross country they had a reputation for being popular and fashionable
00:42:06
and they were the captains of their high school cheerleading squad. Nope. I swear to God, I did not do that on purpose. I was worried that was going to happen. I'm so
00:42:19
I'm sorry. That's totally my fault. There we go. Jesus Christ. You know that what sucks is when you don't know the story that the person's telling, and so you see a photo and you don't know if you'd be like, oh, they're cute, because you don't know if they're murderers or if they're not.
00:42:36
Right. It's really, so I'm just going to nod. Right? Sometimes that's what we have to do.
00:42:42
Okay, so that's basically their young life. In 2008, when they're 30, they moved down to Palm Beach County, Florida,
00:42:51
and they opened a yoga studio called Twin Power Yoga. So I guess in the 12 years between high school and when they moved to Florida,
00:43:01
they just got super, super into yoga. How into yoga? Do you think they like to down dog?
00:43:15
Or do you think they like vignette? There we go. Look at it. That's the teacher training manual that the Power Twin Yoga studio put out.
00:43:24
Are you allowed to be a teacher if you're not a twin? Oh, sorry, you didn't share your mother's uterus with anybody?
00:43:31
Get the fuck out. this is this is so what do you call that when you put a filter on a picture
00:43:42
filtered? this is so filtered there's like 17 filters on this oh my god it's like you're on Instagram now
00:43:52
yes that has been filtered to the max they filtered it so hard the back wall looks great
00:44:01
like okay all right um all right so they're they do very well they're very successful
00:44:08
they soon become very well known in the area um because they drive around in their matching
00:44:15
porsche boxers um one of which has a personalized license plate twin power t-w-n-p-o-w-r but only
00:44:24
one of them. Oh, no. Only one's a super nerd. Because you know that's what yoga is all about.
00:44:32
Power and material goods. Yep. So a local Florida tabloid called Gossip Extra regularly would
00:44:41
refer to the twins as the terrible twins of yoga. A fucking local gossip. Oh, I'm a catty place to
00:44:51
live yeah well and also it's a florida gossip so it's just like okay did you hear that she did so
00:44:59
much meth she fell down a sewer it's like the rules are different in florida you guys know
00:45:08
you guys know all those people that cheered when i said florida they're like in the back row crossing their arms as hard as they can
00:45:17
those who know them say that alexandria is the twin with the bigger and more dominant personality
00:45:24
um as opposed to anastasia her sister who was who was quiet okay so and according to their spiritual uh ding advisor um leslie mcmichael the fakest name i've ever
00:45:41
heard in my life. It's as if I typed it as I was writing this up. What's a name? Leslie McMichael?
00:45:49
Put two first names together and we'll see what happens. That's such a romance novel name. Yeah, for real. Brought to you by Leslie McMichael.
00:46:00
So in 2011, the twins were approached to star in their own reality TV show. right TLC is like what you say twins in yoga and Florida we're there yeah
00:46:12
we can't resist it oh so they I guess they were making videos it's perfect because it's like if
00:46:21
your yoga instructor could show you how to do it on herself yeah it seems easier when the person
00:46:29
who's telling you how to do it and the person who's doing it are exactly yeah yeah now I get
00:46:34
it. Now I understand yoga. She looks like she's like a magician hovering her. That's right.
00:46:43
Yeah, you can't, it's blocked by that, but you can't see that her toes are up off the ground.
00:46:47
This is the most magical yoga. Twin powers activate form of nerds. Shape of. They always, was it me or in that cartoon, were they always a bucket of water?
00:47:04
I'll talk to you about it after. I don't want to talk to you about it now. Okay, but the producers of this claimed reality show
00:47:12
pushed them into renting a more expensive studio space, and then they pulled out of doing the reality show,
00:47:20
which left the twins with a huge expense that they couldn't afford. And as a result, they took on a massive amount of debt.
00:47:26
So as a person who's worked in television and in reality shows, I will say to you, Leslie McMichael,
00:47:33
you're full of shit because there's no way any kind of we think we might do a show
00:47:40
rent a studio for $11,000 it simply doesn't work that way everything you see in reality TV is
00:47:46
fake, fake, fake and scripted and fully written so they're not going to be like no, go rent something
00:47:52
they'll just make you stand in front of a building that you don't ever go into and they'll be like, look at their gorgeous studio
00:47:59
so I call bullshit. So three years later, after they're burdened with this terrible studio debt, three years later, they close their yoga studios.
00:48:09
I say do it in the first year. Walk away. I say do it. Yeah. Right. When you start losing money so that you don't continue to lose money for three years.
00:48:17
But hey, maybe the reality show producers wouldn't let them. So they they closed their yoga studios. Plural.
00:48:27
They had had a couple around town without paying any of the employees and without reimbursing any of the memberships for the people that joined up.
00:48:36
You can't piss off yogis, man. Oh, fuck, no. Don't piss off yogis. They'll come at you with knives.
00:48:43
And then they, oh, I wrote, but they did it without paying any of their employees or refunding the fees of their members, like the Buddha himself.
00:48:52
then they just hightail it out of Florida and move to Park City, Utah so after they arrive in Utah
00:49:02
Allison and Ann do the totally unsuspicious thing and change both of their first and last names
00:49:09
so Allison Datto becomes Alexandria Duvall and Ann Datto becomes Anastasia Duvall
00:49:16
oh I think I was calling them their fake names too early well we didn't want to get confused
00:49:20
I gotta say, you know, sometimes you want to change your look, get a haircut, do something, try changing
00:49:26
your fucking entire name. It'll really just make you... I mean, if you like the DMV,
00:49:32
do you love paperwork? Get in there. Change your entire name. Change the most basic
00:49:38
and difficult things, or wax your eyebrows. There's all these ways that we can feel
00:49:44
better. Okay, so listen. in January of oh wait, so they're in Park City getting comfortable. They open up
00:49:55
a new yoga studio, but they're both in $150,000 worth of debt. Both of them. Each? Each. That's $300,000.
00:50:05
Great math, Georgia. Thank you. That's a lot of money. It's six figures. So they almost immediately have to file for bankruptcy
00:50:16
like right after they get to town. more paperwork they love that paperwork they're like can we go to the courthouse again
00:50:24
yes you can Anastasia the fakest name I've ever heard second only to Leslie McMichael
00:50:31
then they get themselves into some legal trouble in January of 2014 the twins got themselves
00:50:39
kicked out of a park city restaurant for being drunken disorderly how loud do you have to talk to get kicked out?
00:50:50
But I feel like in Utah, it's probably like you're just a little tipsy. You're like, get out of here, drunkie.
00:50:55
You know what I mean? Can I have it? Ma'am, I can't have, I hate, this is crazy.
00:51:01
Two Chardonnays. It's barely 6 p.m. What's the red wine called? Ma'am, you have to get out of here.
00:51:09
Yeah. I mean. They're D&D in this restaurant in Park City. The owner tells them to leave.
00:51:15
they tell the owner they're going to have the mafia kill him. Yes. No, listen. It's what you have to do sometimes.
00:51:23
It's what you have to do. And remember, they weren't even that drunk. They were just like, right?
00:51:31
They just didn't like being inconvenient. But that's not all. Cue the foreshadowing music.
00:51:38
Because they also crash their car. They get into a fight in the car as they're driving the car.
00:51:45
The fight becomes physical. They're throwing punches at each other. The yoginis.
00:51:52
Oh. The yoga experts. Throwing punches? Throwing punches, pulling hair. Oh, shit.
00:51:57
Their car ends up sliding into a ditch. Oh, my God. I just, I want to, sisters are not meant to always be together when they're adults.
00:52:06
Yes. You know? It's true. Sisters are not meant to be friends. Yeah. Friendly. Not friends.
00:52:11
True. Yeah. Love my sister. besties, let's move to every fucking city in the United States together type of shit.
00:52:18
It's like breakaway. Like texting. Yeah. You know. Get some separate hobbies, then you have stories to
00:52:24
tell when you get back together. Hey, guess what I did that's new? Okay. You've never heard of this. Great, because now I don't want to
00:52:30
punch you in the face. I'm going to have the mafia kill you. You know, I'm going to start saying that
00:52:36
to people. Well, you can kick us out, but we're going to have the mafia kill you so you better look alive out here in park city utah where the mafia is
00:52:49
everywhere uh okay so in december of 2015 they decide they need to go to hawaii for a religious
00:53:00
quest i bet you guys get a lot of that out here oh god sincerely apologize yeah because
00:53:06
wow holy shit that's gotta be rough it's written in the dao de jing if one is to devote themselves
00:53:13
to a spiritual practice one should go on a month-long vacation to a tropical paradise where
00:53:19
everything's beautiful and the air smells like flowers that's how you challenge your soul
00:53:24
and practice patience and learn to let go if you're fucking rich as shit yeah or have a ton
00:53:31
of credit card debt and just don't give a shit anymore and they're just like take my credit card
00:53:35
I don't have the mafia fucking kill you. Okay, Anastasia. In my, when I fantasize about this story,
00:53:46
I like to picture that everyone pronounces Anastasia the way she wishes they would instead of Anastasia.
00:53:51
Yeah. Two for Anastasia it Anastasia Oh So they get to Maui they move in with their boyfriends Alexandria with her boyfriend Lonnie Dickerson
00:54:05
and Anastasia with her BFF. They call bullshit on that name, Lonnie Dickerson. Lonnie Dickerson?
00:54:11
That's a straight up. That's a lesbian, a lesbian, a mick partly. Wait, did you get this out of Fifty Shades of Grey, part three?
00:54:20
What I did is I took Fifty Shades Further, and I cut all the words out and I mixed them into a word salad
00:54:27
and glued them onto these pages. Whips and chains. Christian Grey says, sit in this chair.
00:54:35
I swear to God I saw that movie and I was just like, is all he going to do, he just makes her sit in a chair.
00:54:40
I didn't realize that was S&M. I'm disappointed. Three years after seeing that movie
00:54:48
and I still haven't figured out the words to discuss it because it's just insane.
00:54:52
and then I think you just did it for me. I mean, yeah, the words are, sit in this chair.
00:54:57
And then she's like, oh my God, and then he made me, then she goes to her job at the hardware store.
00:55:02
I'm sorry, what's this? Oh, she's tomboyish and fun. Do you need a hammer? Why do you work here?
00:55:09
You've never fucking touched a tool in your life. Get out. Literally. She was a virgin, right?
00:55:16
Oh, that's what the connection was. Oh, was that the spoiler? Yeah, touched a tool.
00:55:19
oh was that symbolism i just i that's i just figured it out gross that's why i fucking hate
00:55:26
literature i get it okay okay anastasia's boyfriend's name was federico bailey okay
00:55:35
fake it's total it's total word salad yeah this is this is all terrible writing on my part okay
00:55:43
okay so they they get to maui they're like swear to god we're gonna be normal they're like
00:55:49
Looking at each other like, promise me you'll just do yoga and I'll just do yoga and we won't do this anymore.
00:55:55
Twin pinky swear. And as they're pinky swearing, one says to the other, yeah, there you go.
00:56:03
I'm going to have the mafia kill you. That's our new pinky swear. That's our new prayer before we go on stage.
00:56:11
We prayed to Lillikoi and Passion Fruit. That's right. Now it's this. Yeah, this is our new one.
00:56:18
oh, we don't have any more shows. Okay. Guys, focus. So, it's six months later, May 29, 2016,
00:56:29
and Anastasia and Federico have decided they want to go on a weekend camping trip together.
00:56:35
So they packed up Federico's white Ford Explorer. They're all ready to go camping
00:56:39
when, who do you think shows up? Our girl, Alexandria. She's like, I want to come camping too.
00:56:47
Oh. Yeah, that sounds great. And Anastasia's like, I've had it with you, who is also me.
00:56:57
So she really, Alexandra really does invite herself along. The sisters, they start arguing.
00:57:02
Federico, this is how I picture it. I don't know if literally this is what happened,
00:57:05
but he comes out of the house with like one last sleeping bag on his shoulder, and he sees the two sisters driving off in his SUV without him.
00:57:14
Yes. Wait, they left him behind? They left him behind. the sleeping back part is what I made up
00:57:21
yeah yeah yeah I get it and here's the last oh so you guys are going to go I have to stay here
00:57:30
what about your sleeping bag I got a brand new canteen I mean lucky him though because camping fucking sucks
00:57:41
what are you trying to prove oh great you can sleep outside You must be stronger than others.
00:57:48
Get out. Get out. Get out. Get in. Get indoors. It's so nice. Turn that TV on. It's so nice.
00:57:58
People work hard to make you TV. Stay in. Have we lost it? I don't know where we are.
00:58:06
I think these were made in LSD. It's time to put these back on. Okay. There you go.
00:58:16
Okay. Here we go. Okay. Now we're serious. Now this makes sense. So they drive off without him.
00:58:26
Okay, great. Okay. So by the time they come back, they've stopped fighting. But when he walks up to the car and he's like, hey, guys, I thought you were...
00:58:34
Then he's just... The fumes of alcohol come rolling out of the car. They got in shit-faced?
00:58:40
Yes. They went off and bought themselves some liquor and drank it. and then he was mad because he was like when they drank it was like jekyll and hyde they they
00:58:50
suddenly that's when everything went off the hook so he gets mad he walks away which i pictured
00:58:58
you know he's like an italian guy so he's wearing like a weird belt with jeans and he's like what's
00:59:04
that i smell and then he like takes four feet away like and then they just take off again in his car
00:59:10
Yeah, this poor guy. So they go peeling out down the Hana Highway. Now, and they're on the eastern side of Maui.
00:59:19
Oh, great. Okay. So I will tell you and only you about the Hana Highway. Please.
00:59:23
Because everyone else here knows exactly what it's like. Oh, I know. Okay. I know, too.
00:59:28
Have you driven down it? I know, too. So just tell me about it. It's super gorgeous.
00:59:31
It's 65 miles long. It takes two and a half hours to drive around the whole island.
00:59:36
And then you drive through lush, gorgeous greenery. and valleys, but then you also drive on these, you go over bridges that only one car can go
00:59:46
on at a time, which is like, hey, it's 2019. Could you get a bigger bridge? Yeah, double the size of the bridge.
00:59:53
I mean Oprah lives there and she allowing this shit There also parts of the road where it super cartoony where it looks like as you come up around like it really high and up around a curve
01:00:06
and then there's just sky as you come around the corner, and then your car tips up on two wheels and goes,
01:00:12
and then keeps itself on the road and keeps going. What is people's big issue with staying home?
01:00:19
I mean, it's not overrated. There's so many arguments here for it. So, basically, I told you all about the thing you know.
01:00:34
And then there's sheer drops on the side, on certain parts, hundreds of feet down to the Pacific Ocean and the rocks below.
01:00:40
I don't want that. Okay, so they're again doing the thing they love to do, drive and fight.
01:00:47
There's an eyewitness named Chad Smith who saw the sisters arguing as they sped by him,
01:00:52
And then he saw the passenger reach up, grab the driver's hair, and yank it down as hard as she could.
01:00:59
Don't do that to someone who's driving. Not to. Wouldn't that be amazing if that's how the mafia killed you?
01:01:07
What, made your sister mad at you? Holy shit. So, at one point, Alexandria pulls the car over, and she throws on her hazard lights.
01:01:20
The argument continues. There's more people. There's all these eyewitnesses or people that are like, yeah, we saw those two.
01:01:25
It looked like the same lady fighting with herself in that white SUV. It was pretty upsetting.
01:01:31
We thought we were super high. So they pull over a little bit, throw the hazard lights on, and continue arguing.
01:01:44
And then Alexandria puts the car back into drive and hits the gas. She accelerates, ends up going up to 48 miles an hour
01:01:52
Takes a hard left and goes right over a cliff Holy shit 200 feet down to the rocky embankment below
01:02:01
Oh my god, are you going to show us a picture? Yeah Look at this shit We're scared
01:02:05
Check it out I would love to Would you believe All I want to Whoa Fuck that Holy shit
01:02:16
I see it No, I see where we are Okay, good, good. Oh, my God. Okay, so Alexandria, the one that's driving, is airlifted out.
01:02:26
She only has minor injuries. Anastasia is killed in the passenger seat. Oh, my God.
01:02:32
Minor fucking injuries? Yes. She had her arm in a sling. Wait, there's another view.
01:02:38
Everyone knows. Oh, no. And there's another one. Sorry, I don't know. Wow. I want to see.
01:02:45
It's so crazy. I wish I could see more of that. Hold on. I would really love to.
01:02:49
You never believed. And then how does it, what happens after it? This next picture is just another version.
01:02:55
Isn't that crazy? I don't understand how you can just walk away in like a fake person thing,
01:02:59
you know, like people wear to court when they're trying to. She was airlifted out.
01:03:03
So at first I think they thought they were both dead. But Anastasia is pronounced dead at the scene.
01:03:10
So upon inspection of the terrain at the crash site and the road around it, the investigators found no signs at all
01:03:19
of Alexandria attempting to use the brakes in any way. No, no, she fucking... She drove off a cliff.
01:03:26
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So in the days after she's released from the hospital,
01:03:30
Anastasia's boyfriend, Bailey, would later testify that Alexandria, so the boyfriend of the woman who was killed,
01:03:38
of the sister who was killed, says that Alexandria began acting particularly strange.
01:03:43
He says, and this is one person's, but it's one man saying it, but he testified to it in court.
01:03:50
He swore under oath. He said that Alexandria began wearing her dead sister's clothes
01:03:56
and began flirting with her, and he got the feeling she was trying to impersonate her sister.
01:04:02
To add to the suspicion, Alexandria is trying to buy flights to the West Coast, seemingly to flee the area.
01:04:09
So on June 3, 2016, the police find her and arrest her at a local hotel, and she's charged with secondary degree murder and held without bail.
01:04:18
Let's see if we can. I don't think we can. I feel like it's not going to. I feel like sometimes it does, though.
01:04:25
It's my butt. It's my butt. Right when we give up. No, I was wrong. Is it your butt?
01:04:33
Oh. Look at Amy Schumer. So do you know that, and I'm saying this is like a copyright
01:04:43
because I'm saying it and it's being recorded that now I'm going to write the film of this true crime
01:04:47
and Amy Schumer is going to play both leaves. Yes, she is. Yep. Who's going to play that cop?
01:04:56
Oh, that's my part. Okay. Yeah. You mean Leslie McJames or whatever the fuck her name is?
01:05:04
Okay. Okay. Okay, so then on June 8th, 2016, less than a week later, the judge declares that there's not enough evidence for a murder charge, and the charges are dropped.
01:05:19
That's my fault, because it was my birthday. Sorry. Oh. What were you doing on your birthday in 2016?
01:05:26
I don't fucking know. It was just a couple years ago. I know, and yet my brain is like, nope.
01:05:31
Nope. All the doors are closed. Mystery Science Theater, closed on that memory. I'm trying to reach.
01:05:39
No. Okay. Keep going. But four months later in October, a grand jury indicts Alexandria for second-degree murder.
01:05:45
So on November 11, 2016, she's arrested again in Albany, New York, and she's extradited back to Hawaii.
01:05:54
Her bail is set at million Whoa But interestingly she released in February of 2017 because she went ahead and somehow found to pay for her own release
01:06:07
So I personally think the mafia helped her pay for it, but I don't know. How can we know?
01:06:13
They're always there for certain people. So she requests a bench trial, which means that only a judge would decide her fate instead of a jury of her peers.
01:06:23
so the proceedings begin January of 2018 the prosecution argues that this was an attempted murder-suicide
01:06:30
on Alexandria's part and that Anastasia's death was intentional and the proof is this airbag data
01:06:37
which shows that the car went from going 20 miles an hour to 48 the no brakes were applied
01:06:43
this is all from apparently there's like a little chip in that insanely smashed car
01:06:48
because of when the airbags go off and tell you how fast it's going and whether or not the brakes were applied.
01:06:54
And I think the fact that it turned left. So all of that was there and provable.
01:07:01
Smart airbags. Right? Aren't they great? Have you ever had an airbag go off? Uh-huh.
01:07:08
It's crazy. It's scary. It's dusty. Like that's when I got in that car accident near your house that time.
01:07:18
It was all of a sudden there was just a loud noise and I was like, who's smoking in here?
01:07:22
And then I told the really beautiful fireman, I was like, something's wrong with my arm.
01:07:28
But there's nothing wrong with my arm. Is my arm broken in any way? Touch it. Just touch it.
01:07:36
Touch it. Because in L.A., like everyone in L.A. is an actor or performer in some way.
01:07:40
So the firemen are like quadruple hot from normal cities. It's insane. I was like, are you on Chicago Fire?
01:07:48
Oh, no, you just actually work here? Okay. So a police officer on the scene who questioned Alexandria testified that she had alcohol in her breath when he questioned her.
01:08:01
And the prosecution offered that Alexandria got a DUI in New York State in August of 2016 after the fatal accident.
01:08:10
So it was supporting the idea she had a drinking problem and that she didn't give a shit about drunk driving.
01:08:16
But she got a DUI after killing her sister by driving off a cliff. Now, but here's the defense, and this is an important thing
01:08:24
because now we are truly talking about if this was an accident, if this was drunk driving and a terrible mistake
01:08:30
and she just ended up living through it, this is a person who accidentally killed her own sister,
01:08:35
her own twin sister, which is fucking terrible. Her defense, so Alexandria's defense attorney,
01:08:40
defends her innocence by arguing that because she was being violently attacked, she simply lost control of the vehicle.
01:08:47
and they did find a handful of Alexandria's hair in Anastasia's hands so she was pulling on her hair
01:08:57
hard enough that she pulled it out of her scalp you're not going to show us that are you
01:09:02
I'm just going to show you a close up of a scalp that had several hairs ripped out
01:09:08
look at the new hair someone sent her a wig in jail and I think that is so nice no no that's a Brazilian blow out
01:09:16
Is it? I just got one, I can tell you. Oh, really? Yeah. In jail. Those jail blowouts are the best.
01:09:24
So basically this argument wins out, and Alexandria is ultimately found not guilty
01:09:29
and acquitted on all charges on February 1st, 2018. This just happened last year.
01:09:35
So after the trial... Oh, there's this picture, which this is her acquitted. Oh.
01:09:41
So after the trial, she goes on Dr. Phil and is interviewed by Dr. Phil. And he seems to be on her side during the whole conversation saying it seems like that the crash was a terrible accident,
01:09:55
that an angry Anastasia pulling Alexandria's hair is what caused it. And he asks her if this is what truly happened.
01:10:02
She responds by saying, it's part of what I do remember. What? Okay. when asked if she remembered anything else
01:10:12
in the immediate wave of the crash Alexandria said that she could not recall specific
01:10:16
details but that she does remember being airlifted out of the crash site in the same interview she took the time
01:10:22
to deny the claim that she and her sister ran out on the money they owed their employees at the yoga studio
01:10:28
and the members of the yoga studio in Florida so she took the time to clear her name in that way
01:10:34
and then when Dr. Phil was later asked he said he believed her and thinks that she is
01:10:40
innocent and that it was a mistake. So Alexandria Duvall, a.k.a. Allison Dado, has consistently
01:10:48
maintained her innocence, claiming that she never meant to kill her sister and that the crash was just a terrible
01:10:54
accident. And that is the incredibly bizarre and incorrectly titled twin yoga murder.
01:11:01
Wow. I mean, yeah. Oh, there's one. Did you ever see this one on Sesame Street where Dr. Phil meets Dr. Feel?
01:11:16
No. And that's the doctor who can talk about his feelings? I just caught it on TV one day
01:11:22
and I could not stop laughing. Pretty cute. Dr. Feel. Dr. Feel. That's a banana story.
01:11:30
Isn't that crazy? And now I'm wondering. Now I'm wondering. I know. Damn it, I wanted to hate her
01:11:35
and now I'm like, oh no, what if it... All right. Yeah, I turned it all around on everybody.
01:11:39
You love it. Yeah. Do we have time for a hometown? Let's do it. Oh, look who it is.
01:11:48
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo. Yeah. Hi. Some ladies in the lobby gave this to me. Oh, nice.
01:11:56
Gorgeous. Holy. So, yeah, that's what happened. But it was handed to me, so apparently
01:12:05
it only works if you get it put on by somebody else. Anyway, pick for him wherever you want.
01:12:13
I'll be on the sides here. Cool, cool. Awesome. Thank you. Vince April, everybody.
01:12:18
Vince April. What's funny about her yelling, it was me, is that she sounded like
01:12:26
Ruth Bader Ginsburg a little bit. We're the ones that gave him that necklace. We did it ourselves.
01:12:33
We've lived in Hawaii all our lives. Okay, awesome. We support you. All right, there's some rules.
01:12:42
And listen, if you're too drunk to listen to these rules, don't fucking raise your hand.
01:12:48
It's that simple. I think you know the rules. Make it local, no exceptions. You're not the exception to the rule.
01:12:56
Don't be the exception. tell your story fast beginning middle end remember everyone hates you because you got picked
01:13:02
um yeah i think that's about it right oh yeah yeah and you're picking oh well yeah do you want
01:13:08
should i try again or do you want to do it you can do it all right all right you've learned your
01:13:11
lesson i get some lights a little oh i am scared oh my god hi yeah with the pink hair
01:13:20
It's humongous. Yes, you. Hi. Come over here. See, I fucking hate this because I can see so well
01:13:28
that I can see people's disappointment on their faces when I don't pick them, and it hurts me in my soul.
01:13:34
Let's bring the lights down so Georgia doesn't hurt anymore. She doesn't get scared.
01:13:39
Hi. Whatever you want. Marcy, everyone. Hi, Marcy. Come center up. I'm going to put this on.
01:13:55
Come get in the middle. Tie your dress. Marcy where are you from Originally or now I from Waianae Will you give us just a general idea of where that is
01:14:15
You drive west and you can't drive anymore. Oh. Okay. Cool. What's your hometown?
01:14:23
Okay. So it's kind of fucked up because it's family. In 2004, my uncle and my cousins decided to shoot people.
01:14:35
at the poly golf course. Oh, shit. But that's not the best part of the murder. So there's three people, right?
01:14:43
My cousin, my two, my uncle, my two cousins decided to shoot three people, right?
01:14:49
Only two died. One survived. Headshot. Oh, my God. Well, so, sorry, what's the fucking story part?
01:14:59
Wait, the story part of it is, is that my uncle drives to my house that night and he decides to be all like,
01:15:07
hey, I need hair dye. Oh, always a bad sign. What? He's like, I need hair dye. My mom's like, just give him your hair dye.
01:15:19
I'm like, no. I want black hair. Don't do this to me. Anyway, I gave him his hair dye.
01:15:30
And lo and behold, he had a gun in his scooter. And so my two cousins got caught,
01:15:41
and he ended up going on the run for a few days. With the hair dye? Yeah. That was what that was for?
01:15:48
Yeah, he colored his hair. But the fucked up part is that when he went to the news,
01:15:53
it was like, we're looking for Kevin Gonzalez. And the picture turned out, and it was the hair color that he picked from me.
01:16:00
So sorry, was it just random? They just did a fucked up thing and then ran? No, he shot someone.
01:16:09
I know. But I mean like revenge? Was there Apparently it was over a gambling house I know y know what that is here So it like bad business And then the kids so they got caught
01:16:25
Oh, like after like three weeks. Oh, that's my favorite. Oh, Marcy. You did great.
01:16:38
Thanks Dylan for pushing me to do this, by the way. My boyfriend was just like, we're going to this.
01:16:44
Have you ever listened to this podcast before? I did. Okay, nice. I introduced the hit.
01:16:48
I showed him. Oh, good. Okay, awesome. And he's just like, they're coming to Hawaii.
01:16:52
We're going to do this. This is your Valentine's gift. Yes. Good move. Oh, yeah.
01:16:59
Yeah. Valentine's Day. Today's my Valentine's Day. Yeah. Well, happy Valentine's Day, you two.
01:17:06
Good job. Thank you. Thank you. Oh my god. We started a podcast because we like to talk to each other
01:17:18
and now we're in fucking Hawaii doing it. And also you should know that last week
01:17:26
when we were in the middle of the polar vortex literally on the east coast wearing coats head to toe
01:17:33
buying hats and CVS and putting on gloves we just kept looking at each other going
01:17:37
we'll be in Honolulu so soon we'll be in Honolulu so soon and now we're fucking here with you guys
01:17:43
we're so thrilled it truly I mean yeah this is fucking paradise and I can't believe how lucky we are
01:17:53
that we got to come here for our jobs which happens to be something we also love to do
01:17:58
so thank you guys for supporting us and being the reason we get to do this shit it's awesome thank you
01:18:03
and thank you also for being such an amazing amazing community that supports each other.
01:18:09
That's one of the most beautiful things, I think, that we get to experience why we love to do these live shows
01:18:15
is we love to see this community in action. I mean, it's under the banner of this podcast that we do,
01:18:20
but you guys are making this thing happen. And it is the coolest thing to watch develop People meeting each other people who tell us that they come to these shows alone that they have terrible anxiety they never do anything but they came here tonight I mean there stories like
01:18:35
that that we hear every single time, and we love it so much, it means the world to us. So thank you.
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