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Goodbye. My favorite murder We got back yesterday from the last weekend of a five and a half month two season tour.
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Yeah. Hi, we need the summer off. Hi, we're taking the summer off. That's right.
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We'll tell you all about that later. It'll be fun. You'll still get episodes. Don't worry.
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Yeah. But we are also simultaneously going to take vacations. We're going to go to a three month long silent yoga retreat.
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Yes. in Nova Scotia. Right, where we eat vegan seal. Vegan seals the whole time. Yeah, we eat with vegan seals.
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Right. So it's seaweed, seaweed, seaweed. Swim with dolphins. It's going to be amazing. And that's all we're doing.
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But also, yeah, it's silent. So all the podcasts will be silent throughout the summer. That's right.
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Just around a minute, I mean, an hour and 28 minutes of just silent vocal drag. What's it called?
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Oh, vocal fry. Vocal fry. But silent. But seals. Yeah. Seal vocal fry. And seal the vocalist.
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That's right. Yeah. What a great vocalist. Remember him. A couple quick things. Let's get them out of the way.
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Our fucking book comes out in a week. That's right. Holy shit. Six days you're going to be able to buy Stay Sexy and Don't Get Murdered.
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The Dual Memoir by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardster. That's right. May 28th, if you've pre-ordered, thanks.
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Thank you. If you haven't, thank you. Thank you. It's okay. We love that kind of push-pull where you're making us earn it.
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God, we want to now. And the audio book comes out the same day, so you can keep listening to our fucking voices.
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Yes, we read it ourselves. We did, yes. Yes, Paul Giamatti makes a fucking cameo.
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Paul Giamatti is one of the guest narrators. It's magical. Yeah. The whole thing is nuts.
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It is. And then there will be a very brief book tour. Very brief, very angry book tour.
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Is there going to be a lot of anger? Let's just do angry. Okay, I mean, easy. New York, Portland, L.A., prepare for our rage as we talk about this book.
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Go to myfavoritemurder.com for details. and also there you can find details about our Santa Barbara weekend in November that we're doing.
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Yeah. Did you hear about my favorite weekend? So it's basically like instead of going on a weekend tour at a couple different places,
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we're fucking taking over Santa Barbara. We're kicking out all the residents. Yes.
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They're really angry about it. That's going to be tough. We're busing them out. That's right.
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But we're keeping the pets so we can hang out with them. Right. And we're going to do a live show.
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Fucking the murder squad is going to do a live show. per cast is going to do a live show.
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It's just going to be, and then you guys are going to have a chance to like meet up and hang out
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and special events. And it's going to be fucking cool. Yeah, we're very, it's like a little,
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a mini, mini con. Yeah. Vention. We're conning you. It's, it's a con for sure. It's a long con.
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It's a long con all the way through November. Yeah. So again, go to myfavoritemurder.com
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in high winds or rough waters none of that is uh is anything we're going to be bringing to the
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It's just BS. But you will be paying top dollar for My Favorite Murder weekend. There's a bunch of different packages and hotel and all this stuff.
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I fucking love those. Now, am I right about this, that they light up in the dark?
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They glow in the dark. The luminol glows in the dark. The word luminol glows in the dark.
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You know those people who have those mugs that say, this might be vodka. And it's like Cheryl in accounting.
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You're like, Cheryl, you're so crazy. You're not Cheryl. That might be wine. Alcoholic Cheryl.
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Yeah. Well, now you can have one that says this might be luminol. Yeah. Which don't drink that.
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Don't drink luminol. It's poisonous, probably. And it's a waste. People need it to spot other liquids.
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Someone gave us vials of luminol at a live show recently. Yes. And I just was like, let's go to the hotel room and fucking throw this about.
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You said that. And then the woman who gave it to us went, no. She knows. Meaning she's done it.
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She's like, do not. You don't want to see what's going to come up under that black light.
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I don't. What do you have? A lot of people got very fired up about what the best cracker treat combination is.
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Is this something we should talk about a little bit? Always. Snacks. Because people really...
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Snack corner. Snack corner. Oh, I've got some responses for that snack when you said this is the best snack cracker.
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Yeah. And then he just handed me like eight printed pages of responses from people.
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Can I get a copy of those, please? Yes. I take it very seriously, but credit goes to Jay for finding those.
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Oh, did Jay find them? Yes, he did. There was one guy, and I wonder if it's in here, because there's so many, where a guy just, he DM'd us, and he just wrote on the Twitter, which I actually never look at the DMs of, because it's like, oh my God, it's open DMs.
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That's a nightmare. DM all over the floor. All over the place. Really gross. But for some reason, I opened it, and then it just said, Graham crackers with peanut butter, boom.
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It's like someone that just like this discussion is over about what the best snack is.
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We're not in the middle of this discussion. Like we talked about that two weeks ago.
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Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. That's how every response on social media is for the person responding and going, I'm
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going to log on Twitter and let them know how I feel. It's always it just happened for them.
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Oftentimes they're like, I need to talk about what happened in episode 64. And it's like, no, we're not doing that anymore.
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I wasn't. I don't even remember being alive then. I there are people walk up to us wearing shirts of things we said on this podcast at the meet and greets.
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And every time I go, oh, my God, that's so funny. And then they'll go like, you said it or like she said it to you.
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And we're like, really? This is great. Or it'll be like, you said it last episode.
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It's like, holy shit. That's a bad sign. Somewhat speaking of snacks. Can I just say that someone sent us a snack pack backstage when we were just in Minneapolis without an explanation?
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And I just I hope they're OK, because it was onion and chive or like onion and garlic crackers.
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Yeah. Cottage cheese. Oh, that's right. And then mint fudge. And I was like, this can't be right.
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I hope they're OK. OK, well, you would say that, right? Having not read a couple of these pages that Stephen handed me that Jay found.
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Give me some highlights. So get get up on this. Like this is the first one I saw from someone named Jordan.
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And a lot of these are coming through just as like listed out recipes. So it just says the number one.
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One, saltine. Two, smear some creamy peanut butter on it. Three, sliced dill pickle.
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Ew. And then here's the underneath that. Do not say gross until you ingest it. It is creamy, sour, salty, crunchy, and sweet.
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No. My fave hungover snack, which may also be a new subgroup name, Peace and Blessings, Jordan.
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People got into this. That sounds gross, but no, I guess not. It's kind of good.
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Then there's really fancy ones. Like this is from Kayla and she wrote, here's my new favorite snack ever.
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I don't know if there are all these in California, but they sell an artichoke jalapeno drip.
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Drip, drip, drip, drip, drip. It says dip. I said drip. It's a fucking injection.
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You put it into your arm. It's a slow jalapeno drip. They fucking have an artichoke jalapeno dip at Trader Joe's.
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That is so good. I wonder if that's the same. I'm glad it is. Okay, what does it say?
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So she says she spreads it on thick sliced salami wrapped up, and it's the easiest and most delicious snack.
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All right. So she's using the salami as the cracker. Gluten-free. Loving it. Oh, and then she says if I'm feeling really crafty, I'll add a Ritz to everything cracker.
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oh oh ritz everything cracker to the mix uh wait there was a couple of them that oh how about this
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this is from steve my favorite cracker is something that my mother got me addicted to
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while i was just a little kid it's her favorite snack as well step one take a delicious take a
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delicious buttery ritz cracker many of these are ritz cracker based these are all this is fucking
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ritz employees being forced to email us i know what you're we know you're doing ritz you don't
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a free fucking commercial out of us. Ritz and Triscuit are going head to head in this corner.
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Promo code. Fuck you. Step two, put a dollop or a smear, if you're Georgia, of cream cheese onto it.
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Step three, top with a smoked oyster. Oh. So I guess this is from the 1%. They sent an email
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from the elite strata. Smoked oysters are for hobos. What are you talking about? Hold on. She
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Steve said, sorry, Steve who calls himself a crackerino. I understand full well that this sounds like some people's version of hell,
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and had I not been raised on this delicacy myself, I wouldn't likely try it either.
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No. But something about it is so savory and salty and buttery, and at the same time, that is pure bliss.
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You really should try this. Wow. Stay sexy and don avoid seafood that comes in a can and is readily available at the dollar store Oh Steve Crackerino Mercury poisoning Aisle one That the savory taste Is that mercury the underpinnings of mercury
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Is your death being closer? Then there's stuff like, there's some people that are genuinely being fancy.
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Caviar with caviar? No, not really. Oh, this one I like. This is from just the letter A.
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As for cracker snacks, the best ones I ever ate was when I was a little kid at vacation Bible school.
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You take a Ritz cracker. Of course you do. Top it with a little bit of jarred spaghetti or pizza sauce and mozzarella cheese and toast it in an oven until melty and voila.
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Toasted Ritz. Vacation Bible School pizza crackers. My son once had a party and I made those.
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They were all five years old. And one kid raved about them so much that the mom had to call me and ask for the recipe.
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Damn. A little pizza Ritz. That's adorable. It's actually pretty precious. That's a step above.
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I mean, yeah, it just goes on and on this way. Maybe we'll post some on the fan cult.
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Here's the thing. Do you remember why apricot jam got mixed into that other recipe?
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Yeah, because I'm crazy and said that you should put a little apricot jam on top of your pickle and whatever, Acmec and what was it?
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Yeah. And Pepper Jack. Pepper Jack. Yeah. And I fucking stand by it. Did, did, have you eaten that?
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Not with a pickle. Okay. But I'm definitely a jam and cheese person for sure. I've been hip to that with you and your charcuterie boards and the cheese boards that I'm now.
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I used to, on like hotel menus, be like, that's not for me. That's not my area. And now I'm like, I believe it to be my area entirely.
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I open your eyes to the, ask for a little bit of honey on the side. And maybe some of that good young fig jam that I love so much.
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Right. That's always good. Anyway, snacks abound. You know what we should do is take all these and put them on the website.
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For sure. Cracker Corner. For sure. I'm going to file those away to... Cracker Corner.
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Shareables. It is crappening. I mean, look, it just keeps going. Oh, I need a copy of those for my recipe book.
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To go right in there. For my recipe folder. Who goes first, Stephen? Georgia goes first this week.
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I don't know why it's such a relief to go first, you know? Just like... That much closer to being done.
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You guys, we love doing this podcast. No, we love it. But there is something about going first to me that's just like, then afterwards I can relax and just listen to yours, crack a can of wine, fucking chill out.
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It's a bit of a hang. But also I think like we, I've gotten very comfortable complaining on this podcast about being tired and being, doing other stuff, which I shouldn't, I shouldn't be like that.
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Well, it's hard not to. It's true and true. So, I tie tight. We're so fucking happy and this is amazing.
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But yeah, I think, and a lot of people have been saying to us like, you guys can take a break.
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It's okay. Yeah. And I think we're finally catching up to that. We're like, oh, yeah, that's right.
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We should do that. My therapist today, when I was just weeping in therapy, which is not like me, he's like, yeah, you seem exhausted.
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Like, you've never said that to me before. And I was just like, can you leave me alone so I can just cry for a minute?
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Yeah. Please witness my emotions. Can I get a witness? Can you? I need credit that I cried right now to show that I can.
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And that it's important to me. Then fucking Vince, because it was couples therapy that we got back in the car and I was like crying.
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And I was like, I feel like I shouldn't stop because this never happens to me. And he's like, totally.
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I'm here for this. And then he makes a joke and I start fucking laughing. I'm like, God damn it, Vince.
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I made some silly, cute joke that just made me laugh. I was like, fuck. My sister sent me something because I was doing, while we were gone, I was having some emotional upheaval.
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Turmoil? It just felt like a, almost like stomach flu. It felt like that kind of thing where it was like it was not connected to anything specific.
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But there would just be like these weird weepy. Like bouts? Oh, bout of weeping.
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And they would just kind of come over me. And then I'd just be like, just let it do it.
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Just let it be here and then let it go and like barf it out or whatever. But of course, kind of similar but probably exactly opposite events is when I call my sister.
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Because I almost never, I'll call her to talk about stuff. But I won't ever call her like losing my mind.
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Yeah. because i know that actually she doesn't like it who does who does really wrong with her but she's
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but the funny thing is when you do she's really good at like uh she's really good at just like
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in the moment or just being okay hold on a second because you don't realize yeah and then she'll
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kind of bring everything else into perspective and she's really it's very funny because you
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wouldn't think it but she's really into horoscopes and astrology type of things yeah so she immediately
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sends me this astrology meme thing yeah all about how they're these solar storms and it's not your
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fault it's not your fault because you're so sensitive and you're such a you know you're such
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a uh empath our air sign or whatever the fuck it is that like that's the reason this is all
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happening i've always thought that about you karen like oh she's such an air sign i'm an earth
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sign actually oh a what sign uh earth i'm earth i thought you said a nurse sign i'm just a nurse
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I'm just posing as a nurse I'm a firefighter sign but then it actually feels good when
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even though we can all argue that it's bullshit or it's just too far away to actually
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affect us and yet how does the moon make our periods happen but it fucking curses us it does
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but it's interesting when things like that happen and then you can just kind of go like
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then it's like this thing is passing through and now it's a time of renewal and you're like oh that's good it's good to like
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emote barf it out and let it feel like it. And blame it on something else. Blame it on something else
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and then be like, I'm renewed. I'm going to do something else now. I'm a flower.
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I'm opening up. Well, I'm getting my period every two weeks. So that's how stressed out I am.
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Oh, no. Yeah it not good Are you going to get that looked up Uh Looked up in the dictionary I am Right up that dictionary Put that speculum right up my dictionary please
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And tell me what the fuck is wrong with me. And just tell me. Give me some definitions.
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third amusement and another amusement park even you've done three i think i think you're right
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yeah um i love any off off the beaten path okay so this one is morbid but it's not murder because
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bodies on Mount Everest. Oh, shit. How about that? Yes. You're here for this? Yes, I am.
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Do you ever do any like, have you ever? I'm sure you click over. Have I climbed it? Yeah. Yes.
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Me? I went to base camp A. No, but you know what I did? I've seen a couple of those documentaries.
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and going into them, I am not interested in a climbing life. I'm not interested in, to me, it seems like you're signing up to probably die.
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There's so many things that can go wrong. But I am fascinated by people who are so driven by a thing like that.
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It's so interesting to me without having anything in common with it. See, it kind of pisses me off.
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I'm just like, just chill out. No. So it is so foreign to me that it's, yeah, it's crazy.
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Okay. So I got a lot of information from an article on Ranker by Sabrina Ifall and a website called MPORA.com by Tristan Kennedy and AllThat'sInteresting.com by Katie Serena.
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And I mean, there's just so many articles all over the internet you can find. Yeah.
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So here we go. karen 200 bodies still remain on everest with nearly one out of every 10 climbers perishing
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atop the mountain on average one out of ten one out of ten those are bad odds terrible
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hey rich people yeah those are bad odds i mean let's be honest it's fucking it's rich people
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with a lot of time or it's it's yeah the it is i think that's what it is yeah it's like crossfitters
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who take it too far. Yeah. I mean, there's probably like the camp of like, no, I've been in this
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since I was a kid and I've been sponsored or something. But yeah, I feel like. That's true.
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But when the odds are one in ten. Yeah. Like what if you were, it was like, that's what the odds
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of camping were. You wouldn't be like, oh, here we go. I'm just going to roll the dice.
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It's the weird thing of like, well, thinking you're special. You know what I mean?
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Where it's like, you think you're special, but really, there's a lot of it that has nothing to do
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with you. Right. Because it's nature at its most vicious. Yeah. Air that barely exists.
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two-thirds of whom are buried in the mountains, ice, and snow. So two-thirds of the bodies of people who have died there since 1921 are still fucking there.
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and mountaineers are crazy about it. More than 296 people have died trying to climb it.
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I think I'm throwing out a lot of numbers that aren't adding up, but let's just keep going.
00:25:05
Well, 296 clearly got rounded up to 300, which is what happens in so many articles.
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I said almost 300, and I was right. You're fine. Most deaths have been attributed to avalanches, injury from fall,
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CERAC collapse, which I think is a climbing thing, exposure, frostbite, or health problems related to conditions on the mountain,
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And not all bodies have been located, so there's not a lot of details on how those ones died, so they can't be like, most people died from this or that.
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Because they just don't know where they are. Yeah, exactly. So it could be a fucking meteor, for all we know.
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Could be the Yeti, which I absolutely and 100% believe is real. That's it. That's true.
00:25:44
It's happening. Okay. Okay, so Everest, because of all the bodies that are still on it, it has the title of the world's largest open air graveyard.
00:25:57
Oh. Which, like, God, that sucks. That's dark. I thought that was like, yeah, right?
00:26:02
Well, also, yeah, I think that's not what people would think of first. The world's largest open air graveyard.
00:26:11
The upper reaches of the mountain are known to climbers as the death zone. And the death zone is a mountaineering term for altitudes above a certain point around 26,000 feet, where oxygen level is not sufficient to sustain human life.
00:26:25
You do. Yeah. So when the human body enters this altitude, it just starts dying immediately.
00:26:32
Yeah. It's not insane. It just starts stopping to work. And people are prepared to start dying and push on through it.
00:26:39
Yeah. So in the death zone, the human body cannot acclimatize. Is that right? I think so.
00:26:46
As it uses oxygen faster than can be replenished. So it becomes a race against the clock.
00:26:51
So at that point, they have to race to get to the summit. Okay. As they die. As they're dying.
00:26:57
So they don't fully die. And then back again before their body fails them. Since oxygen at this level is only a third of what it is at sea level,
00:27:06
Climbers find themselves sluggish and disoriented and fatigued. I can relate. Welcome to my life, sweetheart.
00:27:15
What's up? The pressure, because of that, makes the weight feel 10 times heavier than it actually is.
00:27:22
Same. All over it. And causes extreme distress on organs. Is this you? My liver is crying right now.
00:27:31
um because of this climbers usually only have a window about 48 hours inside the death zone
00:27:37
and so they can get up and fucking back before and they're strongly urged to use supplemental
00:27:43
oxygen at all times but there are these crazy fucking people are like i want to do it without
00:27:47
oxygen yeah like as if somehow they're you know well you know what that makes me think of is like
00:27:51
when they go to the party when they get back and you know they talk about climbing mount everest
00:27:56
for the rest of their lives. But those details at the cocktail party when they are bragging
00:28:02
will be lost on everyone. So kind of the thing that is the biggest victory, people are just going to be like,
00:28:08
right, the death zone, yeah. Oh, you didn't carry oxygen with you? Why? Oh, because I thought everyone could take a tooth.
00:28:15
Yeah, why wouldn't you do that? It's just, it's like... Do you remember? Sorry, I just had this recovered memory in 9-11.
00:28:21
That you climbed Everest? That I climbed Everest and I forgot to brag about it. know that on 9-11 there was a doctor running into the rubble and he kept saying can i take a toot
00:28:33
of like there was there was like a um you know either a fireman or an ambulance worker standing
00:28:38
there and he was taking as he called it taking a toot and then running into places to see if there's
00:28:44
anyone alive did he make it yeah i believe so but i mean i how did that come taking a toot that was
00:28:51
that was like literally live cnn was just going live to fucking ground zero and being like what's
00:28:57
happening and then suddenly someone you're like this toot is not the right word for this fucking
00:29:00
moment he was like it was like this fuck he was a guy in scrubs and he was just like we got to get
00:29:06
in there give me a toot and then fucking running in call it let us know everyone doctors nurses
00:29:11
doctors that do cocaine let us know okay um where was i okay so many deaths at high altitude
00:29:21
mountaineering have been caused by the effects of the death zone either directly because of loss of
00:29:26
fucking vital functions in your goddamn body or indirectly which i think this is interesting
00:29:31
because you make unwise decisions when you're under stress or physical weakening leading to
00:29:36
accidents. So you become, it's like when you have, when you have, what's it called when you're super
00:29:42
hot, and the sun's beating down on you? Just sexiness? No, you know. Oh, sunstroke? Sunstroke,
00:29:50
and you start taking your clothes off, or when you have frostbite, and you take your clothes off,
00:29:55
yeah cool down but that not what happens It like your body is sending you the wrong signals so you do stupid shit So when they die on the mountain the extreme cold preserves the bodies
00:30:06
and keeps them intact just as they fell. And due to the difficulties and dangers in bringing bodies
00:30:10
down, because it's so hard to even just go up on your own, let alone bring someone down.
00:30:15
Most of those who die in the mountain remain where they fall, and the bodies turn into something like
00:30:20
a morbid landmark for the climbers who are going up and down. It's like, well, once you pass
00:30:24
this person, then you know, you're halfway there. And you like they know them. And then probably
00:30:29
they're like talisman. I'm sure they have a moment of silence or something for them.
00:30:33
I hope you know what I mean? I think it's like a respectful thing. Good. So the first recorded deaths on the mountain were the seven porters or Sherpas who died in an
00:30:43
avalanche in 1922 on a British Mount Everest expedition and the fucking Sherpas man, these
00:30:50
are people who do this all the time and have, you know, dozens of climbs under their belt.
00:30:56
They're really incredible, but they also then are more susceptible to accidents because
00:31:01
they're going up so often. They're doing it so often. Right. So Sherpa is one of the ethnic groups native to the mountainous regions of Nepal and the
00:31:08
Himalayas, and many are highly regarded as elite mountaineers. And Sherpas and their teams are hired by mountain climbers to help manage and advise on their
00:31:16
climbs as well as carry the oxygen, carry the gear, set up camp and as a safety expert. Because
00:31:22
they've lived at that altitude for generations, their bodies are used to it and they have a
00:31:27
genetic natural allowance for it. So many when you hear people who are like the guy at the party is
00:31:31
like, yeah, I had a solo climb. The guy is bragging that everyone's like, great, Jim.
00:31:36
Many solo climbers actually use Sherpas. Sure. They just fucking call it solo. Yeah. So in total,
00:31:43
118 Sherpas have died on Everest between 1921 and 2018. An April 2018 report by NPR stated that
00:31:52
Sherpas account for one third of Everest deaths. Yeah, that makes sense. Which is so tragic. Okay.
00:31:57
And while dangerous for the novice climber, the mountain also has claimed the lives of some of the
00:32:02
most experienced climbers. One of the most infamous tragedies on the mountain was the 1996 Mount
00:32:07
Everest disaster on May 11th, 1996, during which eight people died while making summit attempts.
00:32:13
So in one day, eight people died. And there's a really small window of when you're allowed to climb.
00:32:20
It's like sometime in May. It's like a few weeks, I think, because it's just like this is when the weather allows it.
00:32:25
Go. Yeah. So that's like, you know, 18 people. Nope. That's eight people in a really short period of time.
00:32:34
And it was turned into the movie Everest, which I will definitely see at some point.
00:32:39
It stars a bunch of famous people. Jake Gyllenhaal. Yeah, I've seen the beginning of it.
00:32:43
and it's good. You want to watch it, because I'm pretty sure Josh Brolin is also in it.
00:32:49
He's one of the leaders. There's just a bunch of really good people, and it feels very real, the way they shot it.
00:32:55
It kind of feels like you're just there eavesdropping as all these real people are going to go do this thing.
00:33:00
I mean, I wouldn't, you know, I would have bummed even shoot that, let alone hike Everest, climb Everest, excuse me.
00:33:05
That's hike is probably insulting. In that entire 1996 season, 15 people died trying to reach the summit,
00:33:13
making it the deadliest single year in the mountains history to that point. On April 18, 2014, 16 Sherpas were killed in an avalanche that struck base camp.
00:33:23
Just over a year later, on April 25, 2015, 19 people were killed in an avalanche at base camp following a 7.8 earthquake,
00:33:31
which killed at least 9,000 people and injured at least 23,000 in Nepal. Shit. Yeah.
00:33:36
So this is the worst single day death toll ever in the history of Mount Everest in modern incidents with accurate counts.
00:33:42
All right. So on to specific people. Let's talk about the one you've probably heard of and everyone's heard of green boots.
00:33:51
No, I haven't. I mean, not me. This is like the most famous, I guess you could call it landmark while climbing.
00:34:00
Oh, so climbers taking the North Call route to Everest summit inevitably end up passing the mountains most infamous landmark green boots.
00:34:09
He's called this because of the brightly colored hiking boots that he was wearing when he died.
00:34:14
And I mean, it's there's photos like it's they're not gruesome because there's no skin.
00:34:18
There's no face. But you can say it's fucked up. Yeah. Well, they look like kind of like mummies.
00:34:24
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Green Boots identity, but they're covered in their clothes most of the time.
00:34:29
While Green Boot's identity has always been hotly contested, he's widely believed to be an Indian climber named Swang Paljure, who died along with two of his colleagues in 1996.
00:34:40
So because they can't see his face, they're not sure if it's him or the other two, but they're pretty sure it's him.
00:34:45
Paljure was part of the high class Indian expedition of six people to summit Everest that yielded only one survivor.
00:34:53
Harbijan Singh. Singh later recalled that the expedition was marred by mistakes and he had urged the other men to abandon their quest because of inclement weather that was heading in.
00:35:05
But the Singh and his men refused and they succumbed to summit fever, a term used when climbers abandon thoughts of safety and often their own morals because they are close to reaching the summit and become blinded by the drive to cross the finish line above all else.
00:35:22
So it's this like, I fucking came here to get to the top. You can't say to someone at a party, I hiked Everest.
00:35:31
Two thirds of the way. Yeah, you know. Yeah. So they just like, don't think about all the safety.
00:35:37
Like, even their own morals. It becomes whatever it takes. Right, which is just not good.
00:35:41
So the body of Green Boots looks as though he toppled over from exhaustion mid stride.
00:35:45
It looks like he was just doing like a, what do they call it? What's the ski walk thing?
00:35:50
like cross-country skiing yeah and he just like it looks like he just toppled over um and it been he did so in what been now since known as green boots cave luckily is stace and skinner obscured but this but his um blue snow pants red snow jacket a couple tanks
00:36:09
of oxygen are right where they fell along with him along with his neon green hiking boots um
00:36:15
pal jor's body has become a landmark seen by every climber attempting the northeast ridge
00:36:19
route to the summit. So it's like the most famous one. Wow. Then there's Frances Arsenteev.
00:36:26
Frances, her story is fucked up because she was alive when climbers first found her in need of
00:36:32
help. Oh, no. Yeah, this one's fucked up. So Frances, let's see, Arsenteev and her husband,
00:36:38
Sergei, were avid climbers who sought to climb Everest in 1998. Frances had a goal to become
00:36:45
the first American woman to summit Everest without the use of supplemental oxygen, which
00:36:51
is like, it's kind of like, that's like wanting to be like the first woman to swim across
00:36:58
the ocean without having anybody look out for sharks for her. I mean, isn't it? Yeah.
00:37:04
But it's like you want to be a first something and that's the only option. So you're going to go for it, even if it's not safe.
00:37:12
like she couldn't just be a woman who who'd who'd gotten to the top of everest how about the first
00:37:17
woman with it like with a buzz cut on top of everest you shave that hair yeah get up there
00:37:23
and and you just like toot all the oxygen you want the entire time to motherfucker that's the
00:37:28
thing you need yeah anyway that's right don't be a hero let's not put up walls and boundaries in
00:37:36
front of ourselves that actually take oxygen away from us right whatever you do keep the oxygen
00:37:41
Keep that O2 flowing. That's right. Toot toot. So after two aborted attempts of trying to get up on there without supplemental oxygen,
00:37:49
she finally succeeded very late in the day on May 22nd, 1998. So she fucking did it and made it.
00:37:56
But she became separated from her husband, Sergey, as they descended, which is like so
00:38:01
scary. Can you imagine like looking down and being like, where'd you go? Right. Oh, shit.
00:38:05
And she's all high off of not having oxygen. And adrenaline. And adrenaline and whatever other chemicals start going through your body.
00:38:14
And she's like, oh, look, unicorns, a whole bunch of unicorns. And she just runs off to the side.
00:38:21
So arriving back to camp around on May 23rd in the evening, Sergei found that his wife hadn't returned.
00:38:30
So even though he was exhausted, he turned around and headed back up the mountain to attempt to rescue her.
00:38:35
on his way up he passed a team of uzbek climbers who'd abandoned their own summit attempt to help
00:38:42
to try to help francis down as far as they could um but they weren't able to get her all the way
00:38:49
down and the following morning climbers ian woodall and kathy o'dowd and their team were
00:38:55
amazed to find what they thought was a body uh still alive so uh she murmured to them don't leave
00:39:04
me so she's stuck she's frozen in place and she's still alive overnight but um she was immobile and
00:39:12
slipping in and out of consciousness and she was beyond rescuing and there um so after spending
00:39:18
nearly an hour with her in the temperatures of minus 30 ian and kathy were forced to leave
00:39:23
francis when their own oxygen was running out so like they wanted to stay with her they didn't want
00:39:28
to leave her it was it was like they would have died too if they had right um in her book just for
00:39:35
the love of it uh kathy o'dowd writes quote i had never encountered anything like this i had past
00:39:41
bodies i had had friends not come back but i had never watched anyone die nor had i had to decide
00:39:47
to leave them um neither sergey or francis returned so he went back up to look for her and
00:39:53
and he didn't come back either and it was later learned that sergey had fallen to his death trying
00:39:57
to reach his wife. So what he went, he took a weird step and then went down. It looks like she
00:40:03
might have been like, have slid down a mountain. And so maybe he saw her and started to try to
00:40:09
reach her and fell. So like green boots, Francis Arsenteev's body lay right next to the route for
00:40:20
years, dressed in her black snow pants and purple snow jacket. And she was passed by hundreds of
00:40:26
climbers going to and from the summit and became known as the Mount Everest Sleeping Beauty.
00:40:31
In 2007, Ian Woodall, the guy who had to leave her behind, returned with the intention of moving
00:40:37
her body out of sight, because I think it's like a respect thing. Like, you know, let's get her out
00:40:42
of the way so people don't take photos and shit like that. And he covered her with an American flag
00:40:46
and placed a note from her family on her body. I know. So David Sharp. Like Francis and Sergei,
00:40:54
David Sharp was climbing Mount Everest without a support team and without the aid of bottled oxygen.
00:41:00
It's a weird pride thing. I know. It doesn't make sense. It's the thing of like, yeah, you need to one up on yourself.
00:41:08
You can't get high on your own supply anymore. So you're like, I'm going to fucking do this then.
00:41:12
Check this out. It's like being like, I can drink the most shots. Right. Whereas like, yes, you can.
00:41:17
And then where will you be? Yeah, but you don't need to. Right. Where is the true victory?
00:41:23
That's right. So it's believed he made it to the summit on May 14th, 2006. Is that today? No, today's like the 20 something.
00:41:34
Close. I know. But on his way down, fatigued and confused, he stopped and sat down in Green Boots Cave.
00:41:41
Oh, no. Around 40 climbers from several expeditions are thought to have passed David Sharp on their way up the mountain the next day.
00:41:49
A climbing party stopped and when they realized Sharp was still alive they didn make any attempt to rescue him until they passed him again on the way down about nine hours later So they were like we on our way up Oh he still alive We get him on the way back nine hours later Yeah And this by this point Sharp by the time they breached him afterwards
00:42:09
he was alive, but beyond help. And he died frozen in the position he'd sat down to rest in
00:42:14
with his knees like tucked up and his arms kind of huddled around his knees. So I mean,
00:42:21
you can see that the person was just like, I need a rest for a minute. And then they just stay that
00:42:25
way. Right? Because you can't, like, it's almost like he wasn't making good decisions, then the
00:42:31
pack of people who clearly have the eyes on the prize disease you were talking about earlier,
00:42:36
they're not going to make the best decision for that guy. Yeah, they're not going to be like,
00:42:40
forget it, we're going to do we're going to help you. But but many, but so the the that team
00:42:47
maintain that they believed sharp was beyond help on their way up, which may have been true,
00:42:52
but it was like a controversial decision still. And as let's see, like, recovering a body requires
00:43:00
a shit ton of effort. So and risk. So most of the time, they're just left there, even if they're
00:43:06
dying. But a lot of people think that if you see someone in need of help on your way up,
00:43:10
it's your duty to halt your mission and help, even if it means abandoning your summit, but
00:43:15
people pay between 30 grand and as high as 130 grand right um to get to get that fucking
00:43:23
experience and opportunity and so they're not willing to abandon their quest no we call it that
00:43:29
of course not to help someone which is fucked up yeah so i'm like i think it's a i think it's a
00:43:34
mountaineering people like you take a side you're like it's they're torn between whether you do or
00:43:39
not because it's easy to say you should abandon your quest then there's the person who actually
00:43:44
sunk a hundred grand into doing this thing that he he could die doing too yeah i mean you could
00:43:50
kind of argue from any angle it's crazy but morally you're gonna get back down and be a
00:43:55
normal person again and you're gonna have left someone to die yep for money because you spent
00:44:02
them like and for you know glory money and for like cocktail party glory yeah or maybe you get
00:44:08
to be in a magazine well what if you're like wouldn't you rather hear i save someone on mount
00:44:13
Everest? Yes. At a cocktail party? Personally, yes. Yeah, me too. I was going up and this guy
00:44:18
was dying. And although I'm not saying that I would walk away if someone said I actually killed
00:44:24
someone on Mount Everest. You know that I'm... I wonder if there's ever been a murderer.
00:44:28
I mean, that's the perfect place to do it. Yeah. But also it's, yeah, they're creating
00:44:33
their own culture of if I paid this much money, how could I be expected to? Yeah. I mean,
00:44:40
And that's the world we live in now. Every man for himself kind of a thing. Yeah.
00:44:42
Or herself. For real. And so, that's it. Okay. Then George Mallory. George Mallory is one of the oldest bodies on the mountain.
00:44:53
When he died on Everest in the 1920s, Mallory was the most famous mountaineer of his time and arguably our time as well, like of any time.
00:45:04
um when asked why he wanted to climb uh the as then unconquered mount everest mallory famously
00:45:11
replied because it's there oh right i know that guy yeah but his body wasn't discovered until
00:45:18
uh nearly 75 years later in 1999 so he died did people know he was dead or was he just missing
00:45:26
i think they must have known he was dead but yeah they had not no one knew where his body was it was
00:45:31
kind of this like it almost seemed like treasure yeah you know like which are we going to find his
00:45:36
body wow so to this day though and the one of the reasons they wanted to find his body is because to
00:45:41
this day no one is sure whether he and his climbing partner sandy irvine who also perished on the
00:45:47
mountain reached the summit on the mountain on june 8th 1924 my birthday um so they don't know
00:45:54
if they made it or not because they died and they weren't you weren't able to find them so you
00:45:59
couldn't you know tell by the evidence that they had right so um they were climbing they were
00:46:04
climbing dressed in the time of what was mountaineering clothes in tweed oh tweed suits
00:46:11
like a fucking professor like indiana jones style like these dudes were fucking indiana jones yes
00:46:16
they were weren't they um they were using incredibly primitive equipment by today's standards
00:46:21
and including very clunky oxygen bottles um and yet when they were last sighted they were just a
00:46:27
few hundred vertical feet short of the summit. And according to a fellow expedition member,
00:46:33
they were going strongly for the top, but then they disappeared, no sign of them. So they were
00:46:38
never seen alive again. And the question whether or not they made it, it remains to this day,
00:46:43
one of Mountaineering's greatest mysteries. An expedition was launched in 1999 to try and find
00:46:48
Mallory's body in hopes of solving the mystery. But Mallory's mummified corpse is finally located
00:46:54
and you can see photos of it okay and creepy it's like this it's like straight up one-eyed
00:46:59
willy style like goonies shit yeah yeah um but it didn't really reveal much he appears to have
00:47:05
fallen to his death and from the injury around his waist caused by his rope uh it has been figured
00:47:11
that he and irvine were still roped together when they fell so irvine's probably farther down the
00:47:16
mountain but two pieces of circumstantial evidence suggest that he did make it to the top
00:47:21
Mallory was found with a pair of snow goggles in his pocket and it was thought that if he didn't
00:47:28
have his snow goggles on anymore then maybe it was because the sun had gone down which would
00:47:33
imply that they had died late in the night which means they would have they were making their way
00:47:37
back down which means they would have made it okay and also he said that when he got to the top
00:47:43
he was going to place a photo of his wife Ruth at the top of Everest and when they found his
00:47:50
well-preserved wallet on him, there was no photo of his wife in it. Okay. So he probably made it.
00:47:56
Good. Yeah. That's hopeful. Right. I pictured them. Falling into an ice cave. I wonder if I'm getting that from one of those many documentaries.
00:48:06
Like that idea that you step down, you think you're coming back down or you're going up or whatever it is.
00:48:13
And you start thinking. Like falling through the ice. Yeah. That basically it's like one false step.
00:48:19
I bet that happens. But then also in the ice cave is treasure. And yetis. Yeti family treasure.
00:48:30
So there's also money in the recovery of bodies on Mount Everest. In 2017, a team of local Sherpa climbers recovered the body of three climbers that had been on Everest for a year.
00:48:42
The high-risk expedition was financed with about $92,000 from the Indian state of West Bengal.
00:48:49
bengal so uh the expedition sparked this crazy debate about uh in the mountaineering community
00:48:57
about the morality of risking more lives to retrieve bodies from everest and in a way i feel
00:49:02
like if you're this like crazy mountaineer you've been doing it for years and years to get to this
00:49:08
one spot of fucking getting to the top of everest and you die i feel like a lot of them maybe would
00:49:13
want to stay there. I would think so. Right? It's part of the glory of what you were, you
00:49:19
died, like, it's literally that he died doing what he loved then. Yeah, and like, scatter my ashes over somewhere I
00:49:25
like, you know? Right. My pool, I don't know. Scatter my ashes into my pool, and then please
00:49:33
clean them back out. It's an apartment building pool, but don't, just do it. People need to swim,
00:49:37
so if you could clean them back out immediately, that'd be great. um ang shiring who's a sherpa former president of the nepal mountaineering association said
00:49:47
because of global warming the ice sheet and glaciers are fast melting and the dead bodies
00:49:52
that remained buried all those years are now becoming exposed i know i love it to get one
00:49:59
body off the mountain there are risk they are risking the lives of 10 more people um some 563
00:50:06
climbers scaled the peak from Nepal's southern side in 2018. And I think that must mean right now
00:50:13
is when the season's going on. Yeah, it is. So, I think we'll get those numbers soon.
00:50:17
Five climbers died on Everest in 2018. And as I said, 293 people have lost their lives since the
00:50:25
first attempt to scale Everest in 1921, 118 of whom were Sherpa guides. And that is a couple of
00:50:33
the many stories of the bodies on Mount Everest. Amazing. And you can see photos of them. You know,
00:50:39
some are gruesome. They're Yeah, they're like a mummified. It's creepy. Crazy. That's amazing.
00:50:46
That was great. Thank you. When they started, like in National Geographic, whatever they started
00:50:52
putting out articles about how all of the ice is melting on the tops of lots of peaks around that,
00:50:59
you know, infamous peaks around the world, and that they are starting to find, they're starting to find, like, Cro-Magnon bodies.
00:51:08
And, like, old, this guy was out hunting, and he was just about to kill a saber-toothed tiger,
00:51:13
and, like, that kind of shit. And that one guy who got, like, stabbed in the back, too.
00:51:16
Is that, like, a really, he's, like, a really old, basically fossil man that they found?
00:51:21
Yeah, that had been murdered. I love it. That, and I love when the ice melts, and they find old viruses in the ice.
00:51:28
Oh, God. That's going to be the end fucking day. It's coming soon. Enjoy yourself tonight.
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00:54:38
I kind of have to, but I also want to. You can't. Don't look away from this. I'm going to go in the other room.
00:54:43
Please don't. Just stay. I, because we were just in Minneapolis, St. Paul area, thank you all
00:54:55
Minneapolis and Milwaukee for enabling us to have such a wonderful end to our tour
00:55:01
yeah with some fucking great hometowns oh my god I feel like the best Stacey what a crumb
00:55:08
tell the story real quick when we were in Milwaukee Georgia picked a woman named Stacey who came up
00:55:15
and she's a forensic she's a teacher psychology professor I think she's just great
00:55:23
had a great accent, told the story really well, very earnestly. But then in the middle, she was describing how this man killed his wife, I believe,
00:55:34
and it was very gruesome and terrible. And the audience at one point made a noise about what a bummer it was.
00:55:40
And then she just stops and goes, I know, he's a real crumb. And I was trying not to.
00:55:47
I always want to say shit while people are telling their story, but I know it's going to throw them off.
00:55:51
So I try to be quiet. and just let him tell it. And your face just made me start cracking up.
00:55:55
It was the best thing I've ever heard. You were so happy about it. It made me laugh so hard to see you
00:56:02
trying not to fucking lose your shit. I feel like a lady named Stacy who it takes the time to describe us
00:56:08
like this murderer as a crumb is the exact opposite of us. Where we'll describe the fucking fluffy kitten
00:56:19
as a fucking bitch. you know what I mean like we just it's the idea of that where it's like that's as far as she was
00:56:25
willing to go it just was the most charming bless her heart bless her little heart so um
00:56:31
so this is one of the stories that I prepped and then was like there's no way I can do this it's
00:56:36
just too much right but also because I I've been given the confirmation multiple times that you
00:56:44
haven't done this one yet and I still think you have oh my god the weepy voice killer
00:56:49
I have not done it okay I have thought about it so many times oh I'm ready and is it because
00:56:57
I hate 911 calls uh no oh maybe I just I wonder maybe yeah maybe it's because it needs that
00:57:07
and you don't know I don't know why I just never did it yeah oh I didn't either and then I was
00:57:13
going to um but as i was going through it it's just so it's so hard to do um well if they're
00:57:21
famous that's one thing and everyone kind of knows them or whatever but sometimes when and
00:57:26
we've talked about this a bunch of times when it's just a killing killing killing killing no
00:57:30
one's picked no one's solving the crime tragic childhood from the serial killer and it's just
00:57:36
like oh okay there's just no i can't get in there and then be like he looks like yeah look what
00:57:42
actor look it's dustin hoffman you can't do that in certain stories it's not nor should you no okay
00:57:48
so i got um information from here's the fucking twist.com uh-huh the criminal minds wiki page okay
00:57:58
which is hilarious and a website called criminally intrigued all right dot com which has a really good
00:58:03
their logo for criminally intrigued is the bottom part of a jaw and then a tooth it's kind of like
00:58:09
over here like a loose tooth set to the side all right it's very thing aside right come back to it
00:58:15
it's well designed it's beautifully designed and interesting okay so we're going to start on new
00:58:20
year's eve 1980 and a 20 year old university of stevens point wisconsin student name uh actually
00:58:29
stevens point is a very small town in northern wisconsin that my friend bradford burleski is
00:58:34
from your it was in your story last time yes last two weeks ago yes weird it is not weird and it's
00:58:41
not big at all um and there's a woman we met in the meet and greet who said she was from there
00:58:45
and that's when i was like my friend bradford's from there anyway okay okay start over so new
00:58:51
year's eve 1980 okay okay so this 20 year old who goes to university of stevens point wisconsin
00:58:56
her name is karen potak and she's just gotten to saint paul because she's coming to celebrate
00:59:02
New Year's Eve with her sisters. And so they are going to a party somewhere. There's an article that said they were throwing the party.
00:59:10
But whatever it is, is they end up at this New Year's party. And Karen, along with everybody else in America, gets drunk.
00:59:18
Yeah. And she ends up wandering away from the party after midnight and just starts kind of walking
00:59:24
around the city drunk. I do that shit, too. I know. Like, I'll be like, this party's too loud.
00:59:29
I'll grab the dog and a leash and just fucking walk away from a party. And then you're kind of drunk and you're just like, everything's so beautiful out.
00:59:36
Yeah. It's so stupid. It's, well, yeah. I mean, that's stupid. It's just. It's risky.
00:59:42
It's risky. Thank you. It's a risky thing. It's good to do with a dog. It sucks that we can't, as women, fucking do that.
00:59:48
Just do it and kind of wander around drunk and have a good time. it also makes me think of too
00:59:54
it that thing how I would do every party where you kind of go into it with all this hope and this idea of what cool could happen and it makes me feel like she who maybe she liked somebody and then at
01:00:05
midnight he kissed somebody else or he wasn't even there he didn't even show up yeah or just nobody
01:00:10
good showed up or it's just that kind of thing like I gotta get away from this yeah yeah around
01:00:15
three in the morning police get a call from a man asking for a squad car to be sent to the
01:00:20
Malberg Manufacturing Company machine shop on Pierce Butler Road because there's, quote,
01:00:26
a girl hurt there. And the caller's voice is very shaky and filled with emotion.
01:00:31
And when the police ask for his name, he hangs up. And when the officers get there, they find Karen's naked body in a snowbank near the
01:00:41
railroad tracks. And she's been beaten with a tire iron so severely that her skull's been cracked.
01:00:47
They can see her brain. but she's alive she fucking survived yes she survives now she doesn't have any memory of the attack
01:00:56
it really of course very severely affected her memory and she had to you know work back from that place
01:01:04
but she lived through it oh honey but they have no it just seems like this random attack
01:01:11
are we going to listen to any of them or no well yes so Stephen has them standing by
01:01:18
Okay. And so we'll go in. Let me do this one first because that one was, you know, she lived and it was basically the first one.
01:01:28
So the next one is Kimberly Compton. This is the second attack, but the first murder.
01:01:35
So on June 3rd, 1981, a group of boys are walking through a wooded area by Interstate 35, St. Paul,
01:01:42
and they come across the body of 18-year-old Wisconsin student Kimberly Compton.
01:01:48
she has been stabbed with an ice pick 61 times. Oh, my God. And she then was strangled with a shoelace.
01:01:56
So at the same time, another call is made to the police, and the caller, tearful, full of emotion, reports the crime that he committed,
01:02:05
and he tells the police, God damn, will you find me? I just stabbed somebody with an ice pick.
01:02:10
I can't stop myself. I keep killing somebody is the phrase that he uses. And then they trace the call.
01:02:21
They get to a payphone at a bar across the street from a local bus depot. But by the time they get there, of course, the guy's gone.
01:02:29
The killer's gone. Two days later, he calls again. And here's the phone call. Oh, my God.
01:02:37
Is this the first time in the history of My Favorite Murder where we played a 911 call?
01:02:41
We're going to play a 911 call. And it's purely so we can hear. Don't talk. Just listen.
01:02:46
I'm sorry what I did to Compton. I couldn't help it. Don't know why I had this tavern.
01:02:55
I am so upset about it. I keep getting drunk every day. I can't believe I feel like a big dream.
01:03:05
I can't think of being locked up. If I get locked up, I'd kill myself. I'd rather kill myself to get locked up.
01:03:12
I'll try not to kill anybody else. Oh, just. Oh, so I don't like 911 calls because, well, most of the time, if it is the killer, it's oftentimes a husband pretending to be upset when he's actually not.
01:03:27
Or just hearing that people actually upset. Being upset is upsetting. But this is for some reason, this is different to me because he's just talking about himself.
01:03:38
Yeah. He has just murdered someone so viciously and insanely. and he's calling and acting like he's upset that he did that right but really he just immediately
01:03:47
starts talking about i can't go to jail right and that this is all like very sad for him yeah
01:03:52
and also just that if i ever had to listen to really anybody but especially a man talking in
01:03:58
that tone of voice like a cowardly lion sir sir it sounds like the cowardly lion it totally does
01:04:05
i'll beat emma don't i'll take emma listen i don't know um yeah it's it's i would have as a
01:04:14
9-1-1 dispatcher probably been very disrespectful to that to that man he does not turn himself in
01:04:22
as he just said in that phone call um and uh he does kill someone else so on july 21st 1982
01:04:29
a woman named carol kellogg goes to her friend's house kathleen greening they're gonna go on
01:04:35
vacation to Mackinac Island and Carol knocks on the door. Nobody answers. Then she tries the door
01:04:42
and it's unlocked. So she goes into the house and she calls for Kathleen and no one answers.
01:04:46
So she starts looking around the house, checking every room and Kathleen's not there. And finally,
01:04:52
Carol notices that the bathroom lights on. So she goes upstairs to the bathroom door and she opens
01:04:58
it and she finds Kathleen's naked body lying face up in a filled bathtub and her head is under the
01:05:05
tap or her legs are down to the other side. So she calls the police, police arrive, and they
01:05:11
ultimately rule Kathleen's death an accident. No, because there's not there's no proof that
01:05:17
anything nefarious happened. But Kathleen's friends and family don't think it's an accident. And they
01:05:23
actually think that her estranged husband could be responsible. But there's the police look into him
01:05:29
and there's no chart, no charges are filed against him. About a month later on August 5,
01:05:34
the same year 40 year old barbara simons goes out for a night at the hexagon bar in minneapolis
01:05:40
and she meets a man there she um he's about to smoke a cigarette she offers him one um then
01:05:47
later on he offers her a ride home and she says yes and as she's leaving she actually says to the
01:05:54
bartender um he cute i hope he nice since he giving me a ride home and then they leave so the next morning august 6th um there a basically a paper boy but it might be an adult yeah um uh is walking
01:06:10
along the mississippi river and they find barbara's body her dead body she's been stabbed over a
01:06:16
hundred times oh my god yeah um it's like that's rage stabbing you know beyond i mean yeah he doesn't
01:06:24
even know these these women right it's insane overkill yeah and must be so disturbing for the
01:06:31
people that find these bodies again the police get another phone call and um it's the same voice
01:06:38
and this time he's full-on crying and he once again starts the call please don't talk just listen
01:06:45
um which is how he's starting these calls do you want to try the the next one okay
01:06:50
Calm down. The dispatcher. Calm down. It's not real. What, the emotion? Yeah. You know, I always thought it was when I've heard it in the past, but now I'm like, no,
01:07:28
he just wants credit for these murders. And attention. Attention and credit. And he's crying for himself.
01:07:37
The last thing he said, you could barely understand it. He says, I've killed more people.
01:07:41
I'll never make it to heaven. He's crying about himself. Yeah. And I think there's, you know, obviously there's that interesting, like, is this a Jekyll and Hyde situation where he's doing these crazy overkill murders, waking up and then feeling bad.
01:07:57
Wait, so he just took credit for the woman who drowned, right? No, he no. Kimberly Compton, who is the first one who was stabbed and strangled with the shoelace.
01:08:06
OK, he's he did not take credit for for that. And how do they know? But how do they change it? You're going to tell me probably.
01:08:12
Yes. It's a reveal. Okay. Yeah. And I won't. She doesn't actually fit into the MO. Yeah. So actually that one does it goes it stands alone cold for a while. Okay, tell me. And again, normally, I really can't even I can't take 911 calls at all. But there's something about this one that is just like, it's so it's just like the dispatcher that finally breaks in. It's like, calm down. Yeah. What are you even doing? Yeah. What is this? He's leading this thing that no one else has anything to do with it. He wants control.
01:08:42
over. That's creepy. It's so creepy. And also, but then he's just kind of complaining. Yeah,
01:08:49
he's complaining. Yeah. Okay, so investigators start their search for the killer trying to
01:08:53
identify the man that Barbara left the bar with the night before. So the witnesses, they all tell
01:08:59
authorities that they remember seeing Barbara leave with a man that was around 40 years old,
01:09:04
six feet tall, 185 pounds. He's a white man with a receding hairline. Okay, so then on August 21st,
01:09:11
1982, so this is basically a month after that, police are still searching for Barbara Simon's
01:09:17
killer from the Hexagon Bar when a 19-year-old Minneapolis sex worker named Denise Williams
01:09:22
is out on the streets working. A client approaches her. They talk about pricing, and then she gets into his car.
01:09:30
They drive to a secluded location. They have sex. And then afterwards, he says he's going to drive her back home.
01:09:38
and then as they're driving, Denise notices that they're actually going further away
01:09:43
into an area that she doesn't recognize. They're not going back to the city. It's a very dark suburban area.
01:09:52
She's starting to get uneasy and she knows she's in danger. She has a bottle near her leg that she has.
01:10:00
She just knows where it is. So she's kind of prepped. He pulls off onto a dead-end street,
01:10:05
turns and starts stabbing her with a screwdriver. But she's ready, so she grabs the bottle from the floor of the car and smashes him in the head.
01:10:13
Yes! And then she starts screaming, and she actually wakes up a neighbor nearby who comes out of his house.
01:10:22
He tackles the attacker to the ground and saves Denise, but the attacker ends up escaping.
01:10:30
And by the end of the whole thing, Denise has been stabbed with the screwdriver 15 times.
01:10:35
Holy shit! Yeah. So the neighbor calls an ambulance for Denise, and then he tells the police all about what the attacker looks like.
01:10:45
And meanwhile, the attacker has made his way back to his apartment, and he... But they have his car.
01:10:51
No, he got away. Okay. But when he gets to his apartment, he calls an ambulance for himself.
01:10:57
No. Uh-huh. So it's another 911 call, and he's calling in saying, I need help, and doing the same weird voice.
01:11:05
And the dispatcher who takes that call from him goes, this is that person that keeps calling and saying they've killed somebody.
01:11:11
And then someone ends up stabbed to death. And so the dispatcher basically tells the police, I think this is the same guy that's been calling in these murders.
01:11:20
And so police show up at the attacker's apartment and he is finally identified as 37-year-old Paul Michael Stefani.
01:11:28
He's arrested and he's charged with second degree assault for Denise Williams' attack.
01:11:33
Okay, so as they dig deeper into Stefani's background, they're able to connect Barbara Simons' murder to him because of the eyewitness account.
01:11:44
So there's a waitress who saw Barbara Simons leave the hexagon bar with a man that she knew was Paul Stefani.
01:11:51
She knew his name. So when the police came back around to look into Stefani, she was like, oh, yes, that she left with Paul.
01:11:59
Wow. I know that that's who it was. So they look into Paul Stefani's background, and they see that he used to work at the Malberg Manufacturing Company, which was the place.
01:12:09
He was fired there in March of 1977, which was three years before Karen Pollack's attack.
01:12:15
And that's the place where her body was found. So basically, they're able to add a murder charge for Barbara Simons on top of the assault charge for Denise Williams.
01:12:25
So a little tiny bit of background about Paul Stefani. There's not much, and it's not that interesting.
01:12:30
But he was born September 8, 1944, in Austin, Minnesota. He was one of ten kids, super religious family, and super repressed.
01:12:40
He married a woman as an adult named Beverly Leiter, and they had a daughter together, but they later divorced.
01:12:46
Basically, Stefani goes to trial for that murder and for the attack. and his ex-wife beverly his sister and his former roommate all come to testify that the voice that
01:12:58
you hear on these 911 calls is his voice oh my god they're all they're all there saying that's him
01:13:03
yeah basically are just trying to get these the the charges that they have for these attacks and
01:13:10
then connect these other ones that they don't that have gone cold they want to link to him um
01:13:16
But because he becomes so incoherent at the end of those calls, and it turns into that, they can't like directly connect it because basically it could be anybody making that noise.
01:13:28
It's not distinctly his voice. So but even still, Stefani is found guilty, guilty in both the second degree assault charge and the murder charge for Barbara Simon's death.
01:13:38
And they give him 40 years in prison. So, yeah, 40 years. 40 years. Yeah. Yeah. So in 1997, he's 53 years old. He's still in prison and he gets diagnosed with skin cancer.
01:13:55
And when the doctors tell him he has about a year to live, he tells the authorities that he has other confessions about other attacks that he wants to make.
01:14:04
He says he wants to apologize to the victim's family before he dies. So on a taped confession, he confesses to the murders of Kathleen Greening, Kimberly Compton, and the tire iron attack on Karen Pollack.
01:14:18
And he hadn't even been a suspect in the Greening case. That's the one where she was in the bathtub.
01:14:23
And because there was no phone calls made, that was like a really early one. And he just basically gave it to them.
01:14:29
Yeah. So about in 1998, a year later after that, Stefani dies at Oak Parks Heights Maximum Security Prison.
01:14:38
just shy of his 54th birthday. And that is the short and upsetting story of the weepy voiced killer.
01:14:48
Oh my God. Yeah. I hate him. Isn't he the worst? Yeah. I'm glad one of us finally did that.
01:14:54
I don't know why we haven't. I know. Well, I mean, I think I been so anti Oh yeah Cause of the and then maybe yeah maybe I just didn want to play it for you So it good that you did it Yeah Because I not forcing anything on you Well and also I realize it like I want to I want to paint that with a broad brush of like I don ever want to hear any 911 call which is true
01:15:14
Except for there's something about this one. It's like it feels different. No, it is.
01:15:18
It totally is. And it's just so like, I don't know. It just fascinates me. It's just that thing of these people and these fucking crazy murderers who then also think...
01:15:32
I just don't... It's so fascinating what they think and the way they do things. They're just like, he's crying for himself.
01:15:39
He feels worse for himself than anybody in that situation. Just that void of humanity.
01:15:44
But still able to pity himself is amazing to me. Yeah, so, yeah. Fucking A, man.
01:15:52
Fucking A. Good job. Fucking hooray. Yeah. Fucking great time. I guess I will say this one, and I'm not sure if you're going to remember this, but it was a couple years ago.
01:16:04
My niece Lauren was down here, down south, going to college just out of high school, and she really hated it immediately and was really miserable and having a terrible time.
01:16:19
and she would come and hang out with me every once in a while just because she was like, it was a really small school.
01:16:26
It was a really weird area. She wasn't her room. Nothing was working out the way she wanted it to.
01:16:32
She wanted some familiarity. Yeah. So she would come and hang out with me and just kind of like tell me about how much she hated it
01:16:38
and she just felt like she made the wrong decision, which is heartbreaking. Today, she graduated from Berkeley.
01:16:48
Oh, my God. With an anthropology degree because she is such a badass that in that time, she basically went to her parents and was like, I can't go to this college anymore.
01:16:59
I'm so miserable. And her parents were like, didn't want to let her just quit. And, you know, we're going to say you should actually just go here for two more years.
01:17:09
It's better for your. They had kind of had this plan in place. and then I basically
01:17:14
was like if I could just on her behalf say I get why you want to like hold the line on this
01:17:20
but it really does suck and it's a tiny school and two years is a very long time especially when you're young and
01:17:26
miserable right and she does have a plan she just doesn't want to do it down there it's not like she's like
01:17:32
partied her way out of school like me and it's not like it'll ding your record that much
01:17:36
that you'll never get a job once you get out of college or whatever right and also I think it's a thing
01:17:40
of like, I think she, she was nervous about it too. All of this is to say that, you know, this
01:17:48
was a, this was a low time in her life. And what she did was basically just kind of like, pack it
01:17:52
up, go home, get into the JC. And she just started working and she knew where she wanted to be.
01:17:59
And she worked her way into Berkeley which is one of the best schools there is And um and and got to the point where she graduated like very quickly And she just
01:18:13
I don't know. She just turned it all around. Like her life is so different than it was when all that happened.
01:18:18
And I'm just so proud of her. So anyway, I'm just thrilled. And I, but it also is that thing of if you make a decision and you're like,
01:18:27
here's the big thing I'm going to do. And you go down that road for a while and you don't like it.
01:18:31
you get to change your mind. It's hard. Like, I'm sure there's parents that'll, that'll weigh in.
01:18:38
There's lots of people, especially if you're spending their money, there's lots of people
01:18:41
that have lots of opinions. And there's lots of times where people won't make that decision
01:18:45
because they go like, Oh, everybody at home will find out and I'll be ashamed because
01:18:50
everybody else is doing this and that. And how do I compare and blah, blah, blah.
01:18:54
And you cannot make decisions for yourself and for your future based on what other people are
01:18:59
going to think. You have to do what you what's good and right for you and best for you. And you
01:19:05
have to like, figure out your path and you get to figure and refigure it a couple times. Yeah.
01:19:10
And I think she's just this shining example of how you can do that. And you can start over and go
01:19:15
like basically recalibrate and do whatever you want. That's amazing. Yeah. I love that.
01:19:20
Yeah. Yeah. Congratulations. I know. I'm so proud of her. Yeah, I bet. But mine is a piece of paper that I got in therapy today.
01:19:31
That is a list of the 10 classic unhelpful thinking styles. 10? Yeah. Let's hear them.
01:19:40
My brain feels broken a lot because I go to the wrong spot when, you know, like, Vince is going to hate me if I ask if he'll do the laundry.
01:19:50
You know, like, it just doesn't compute correctly sometimes. um and so my our therapist gave this to me that was like everyone does that it's totally normal
01:20:00
maybe yours does a little more than everyone else's but it's normal and so but probably not
01:20:05
right yeah well yeah so there uh i'll learn i'll just name it but you can look up 10 uh the 10
01:20:11
classic unhelpful thinking styles i think is what it's called do you want to hear them yeah
01:20:14
all or nothing thinking yep a mental filter paying attention to only certain types of advice
01:20:21
jumping to conclusions emotional reasoning assuming that because we feel a certain way
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and what we think must be true labeling labeling ourselves over generalizing disqualifying the
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positive hi magnification catastrophizing and minimization so like everything is the worst
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whatever i've done good it doesn't count right um using critical words like should must and ought
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and personalization like this is my fault and I do all of those a lot and but then I was like Vince
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and I afterwards I was like do you do those because Vince always seems so like fucking together to me
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he like yeah all the time like he even him looks like you know affected by it so that kind of nice right now everybody is yeah yeah it just doesn seem like it because they on the outside right not having to deal with the shit that you hear on the inside just seems so much easier for other
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people to like get it especially when you can't yeah um so that's it mental health yeah that's
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