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See full terms at mintmobile.com. My favorite love. Hello. Hi. And welcome. This is my favorite murder.
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It's a true crime comedy podcast where we tell you horrible things and then we just leave you to it.
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And then you have nightmares. Then you're on your own. Sorry. Bye. Sorry. You're all alone in this world. Bye. Yeah, that's us.
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That's Karen Kilgara. And that's Georgia Harstark. Thank you. Ooh, Harstark. Harstark.
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You said thank you. No, thank you, Georgia Hardstark. Can I just say, speaking of this being a true crime comedy podcast, I was going to tell you really quickly.
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Okay. So I saw my mom the other day, and I'm just like at that place in my life where I'm like primed and ready for her to insult me all the time.
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Sure. Maybe it's on me. I don't know. I think that's moms and daughters. Yeah. So she's, we're at some funeral.
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Okay. I didn't want to say it. You buried the lead. Literally, we buried my uncle.
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I don't know. But we're at a thing. There's like a distant relative and she's, you know, bragging about me.
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She also has somehow got it in her head that we have the biggest podcast in the world.
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And I just, I don't think she wants to be corrected on it. I'm sure she doesn't.
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I've tried. And then she's like, they have the biggest podcast in the world. It's a mystery.
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And I was like, it's not a fucking mystery. Karen and I worked really hard. And she goes, no, it's a mystery podcast, right?
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which i didn't correct her on i was like oh yeah yeah which is better because she used to think it
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was a ghost podcast oh that's true so she's getting closer she is she's at least uh
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it's a mystery fuck you mom mom i worked i tried my hardest and on mystery podcast
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so maybe it's so maybe it's me did she let it slide she acted like yeah she was she offended
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No, no, she was like, oh, you know. Oh, good, good. She didn't get it that I was just being a complete dick or she ignored it.
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Hey, look, though. Look, Janet, that one's on me. Look and listen. Janet, sometimes.
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It's hard. You get into the patterns. You fucking. Oh, yeah. You hear what you hear.
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Exactly. Because that's what you think is coming. How do you not hear it? I'm primed and ready for her to insult me in some special way.
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It's a mystery. It's a mystery. Jan. um how was your week in fucking hawaii dude i was so in hawaii i was like walking around in a
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bathing suit cover-up at the grocery store i was so on vacation that not only did i not have my
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debilitating and crippling crippling body image issues but i was like fuck you i was just
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having it was so gorgeous that sounds and you were gone for what a week and a half
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Yeah, it was a long time. I think it was eight days, right? Yeah. Seven or eight days.
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Amazing. How many times did I text you? Like, not at all. As you were leaving. You just did that one.
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Just like, hope you're having a good time. As you were leaving last week, you were like, so if anything important comes in, can we just wait till I get back?
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Because you know me. And I'll be like, real quick. Is this okay? Do you like this or this?
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Which I know is, you know, that's a big request. And I did it. Yeah, you really did.
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Except for one time when I got a Linda Belcher gif of Linda Belcher dancing in Georgia going,
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are you having a good time? And I was. That was the cool thing. I texted you as a friend, not as a business partner.
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Which I love and appreciate. And I think I told you at least one anecdote. Oh, yeah.
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It was the kind of thing where I realized I haven't been on vacation. I mean, I've gotten to travel and have a good time, but still had to work.
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It's a different thing. So different when you just get up to nothing and you're with, we were with like, well,
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I think there were four families all together. So it's just a ton of people, that kind of thing where you, no matter how early you get
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up, someone else is already up. Yeah. And like this person like I going to do I good at breakfast I going to do breakfast This other person like let go Everyone want to go grocery shopping Yes That the most fun It was really we had a minivan that we drive around in At one point Robin so it was us and the
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Colasinghams. Oh, the Colasinghams. You know the Colas. It's Adrian's family. Okay. And
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the Ramati family, which is, we got to stay at Janet Ramati's house. And 4th of July is their
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big holiday. So we all got to be there for that, which was so gorgeous. We were on this beautiful
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beach in kawaii yeah when you looked up and down the beach um everybody brought their own fireworks
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so and and we did too because gordy who was um the one who told that amazing told me the amazing
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at thanksgiving so last thanksgiving is when this whole idea started because it was kind of like this
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mishmash thanksgiving of a bunch of random people who had never had thanksgiving together before
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and we had the best time it was super fun and that's when janet was like we should all do fourth
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of july at my house and that so we got a second house in her neighborhood like great and then i
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would never speak to them again exactly well and i kind of had that feeling of like i don't think
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i'm really invited but yeah it's nice and my sister's like no you have to come it's gonna be
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so great and then i was like well i would love to go and that it sounds like a dream but i didn't
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want to like be invasive well it ended up i was gonna get a hotel room there of course were none
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because it's kawaii summertime so anyway it turned out amazing and it was like couldn't have felt
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more welcome and it was so it's so fun to be around families i'm never around yeah you're
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laughing at their shit isn't it fun to watch a family like interaction and be like oh you guys
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are seeing shit that no one else fucking sees yep and on vacation it's like no there's no all the
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moms are like yeah i'm i already made my breakfast i'm going out onto the lanai like it was truly
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every man for itself love it um oh yeah i was so uh adrian's husband robin started having norah
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drive from your 11 year old niece the 11 year old niece driving from one um rental house to the
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other she was sitting in his lap she was only doing the steering but but she was fully steering
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the minivan with all of us in it she's going to remember that for the rest of her life she was
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giggling so hard at one point she turned all the way around to look at everybody and everyone goes
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turn around it was like it was just a bunch of stuff like that yeah so fun also one night they
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started playing drinking games in the garage and they were they taught us how to play baseball
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which is some crazy like it's basically quarters but advanced because now everyone does like
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quarters with ping pong balls and cups and shit no clue i didn't go to college so i have no fucking
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right same here i've never even heard of it yeah it's just a it's basically like throwing ping pong
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balls into cups and but then if you steal a base then you have to do that cup flipping thing you
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know how the kids were really into cup flipping i'm good at cup flipping are you really i say that
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and not knowing for sure if i am but i think i am it's it was just funny how all the over 40s
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adapted because it's like i've got four beers in me and i want to kick your ass yeah it's like the
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competitive little shit it was like suddenly everybody was 19 i love it and it was it yeah
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It was a total joy. But on 4th of July, as you looked up and down this beach, like as the sun was setting, people just started kicking off their Piccolo Pete's.
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And so it just, as far as the I could see, was just little fireworks. It was the coolest, best trip.
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It was so like dreamy. Yeah. And so relaxing. Like I didn't realize how much I needed to just plain relax and do nothing and kind of like just go to the beach and sit around.
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And tomorrow, there's nothing too. So I was, our, mine had been therapist. Don't worry, we're fine.
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We're just, we're learning how to communicate effectively. Sure. Tell, please give me some tips when you're done.
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We didn't know how badly we were. Like, we're like, let's just, I'm so preemptive therapy girl.
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So let's just go and we'll learn some shit. Cause there were some like, you know, communication shit.
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And then we're like, oh fuck, this would have gone, like our marriage would have been over in 10 fucking years
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if we hadn't figured this shit out. Yes, it's the hardest. Yeah. Like it's the key.
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doing men and women very differently right well he was telling us because we're going to fucking
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hawaii next week but we're going for three nights and our therapist basically was like what is wrong
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with you you you have a brain change when you go for more than like five or six days you're like
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something clicks in your you know that you know the next day is nothing and the next day is vacation
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it changes like you know can you tax some days on no but i think we'll go somewhere else later
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Oh, okay. Yeah, because it's very true. I started calling it vacation brain because people would ask me something very basic about my own life.
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And I'd be like, um, I don't know. Ask me later. Truly, it felt like my brain's like, no, we're gone for the weekend.
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You need a rest. Yeah. Especially like our past year has been really fucking hard and insane.
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And I think we haven't been able to acknowledge it because we would have broken.
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Yeah. Like a spinning top and it's like, don't stick a fucking thing in it. No, you got to let that thing spin and keep spinning it.
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And we still can't tell you guys the things we've been doing that are going to, like,
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we're going to be able to tell you hopefully in the next month. And they're big and they're really fun.
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And some of them are so exciting that I really, really wish I could tell you right now.
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Me too! I'm mouthing it to Georgia. What is it? Huh? Paul Owens? Who's that? See it again.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh, my God, you guys would die. You guys would die. You're going to die soon.
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Don't worry. Apologies to Paul Owens, whoever that is. Paul Owens, I miss you so much.
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I'm really, I'm good at flippy cups. I'm bad at mouth reading, apparently. We're going to work on it.
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Yeah, we have fun stuff to tell you and things that we've been working very hard on.
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And uh but also it hard I think we are very similar in that way It hard for us to relax Yeah I I feel like I been in this mode for quite some time So relaxing is as upsetting as being stressed out
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I'm not of the personality as someone who can chill out. Like even when I, if I'm going to watch a movie on TV or whatever the fuck,
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I have to like do my sewing projects, paint my fucking nails. Like I have to clean out a drawer.
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I can't just chill. That's the beauty of ADD. conversely that's the beauty of hope hawaiian island right because everyone there goes real
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slow and they're not going to speed up for your crazy california specifically not you specifically
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anybody that everybody's just like yeah we don't do it that way here and it's really cool i'll do
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my best it also smells the air smells beautiful and it's insanely clean we'll see how it fucking
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goes. You're going to love it. I'm really excited. It just unwinds your spine. Yeah. It's very, very good for you.
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Unwind your spine, man. Unwind your spine, Lizzie Kuperman. Oh, you're going to read that to me? Yes. Okay.
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Okay, so we got this email that is number one. It is number one. Oh my god, I'm excited.
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I don't know it yet, and you were laughing out loud. I lost my mind a little bit.
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The subject line is, John Wayne Gacy is a fucking fraud. Hi! So I work with correctional officers all over the state of Illinois,
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and sometimes I get really good stories from them about how horrible inmates can be.
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Hell yeah. Parenthetically, so much thrown pee. Oh, throwing pee? That's rough. And every once in a while, a story, the story I want about infamous murderers.
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I was talking to some officers from Maynard Correctional Center, or Menard, sorry,
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which formerly housed John Wayne Gacy. After I brought him up, parentheses, no shame,
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they told me he was not a bad inmate, considering, but they did tell me the following that I had to share with you guys.
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So apparently all the paintings that Gacy sold while he was in prison weren't done by him.
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Oh my God. The fucking scoop of the goddamn century. He had like an assembly line of inmates in his art class that would all contribute.
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For example, one would do the trees and one would do the creepy clown face, etc.
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Gacy frequently only contributed his signature to the whole thing. I was told that when these paintings were sold for stupid amounts of money,
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he gave money to each inmate that worked on it well that's kind of nice i i really don't know how
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it all worked um and how it was even allowed in prison but but shit the 80s were a different ball
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game yeah they sure were i gotta give credit for gacy's entrepreneurial spirit even though he's a
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fraudulent sick fuck i just wonder if he made the inmates working on his paintings call him colonel
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stay sexy don't trust serial killers works of art b well i kind of love that because we always
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talk about don't like how gross that is yeah like you don't want excuse me we're not this can wine's
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making me burp we're not obsessed with serial killers you know we are obsessed with stories
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and so people think that we are obsessed and i just love that it's like oh you bought a john
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wingacy painting sucks to be you motherfucker i just never understood when that kind of that seemed
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to kick up in the 90s a little bit um and i do remember i did have a t-shirt with a huge picture
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of Ed Gein's face on the front of it that I got at EK on Vermont. That is like, but that's like,
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um, you know, like only certain people would know what it is. Yes. You know? Yes. Back then it felt
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very, um, you know, underground. It felt edgy. Yeah. Edgy and like, um, subversive. Yeah. Is
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that the word you're looking? No, but I like that one better than what I was thinking. Uh,
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was it edgy no um esoteric esoteric's good yeah i love that word um but point being i never wore
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it i bought it because i was like i know who it is and i want credit from like the other comics that
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i know that are into serial killers but i don't want to walk around with ed geese right but it
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always freaked me out that people would want a piece of one of those people in their home it's
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Like, how much, that's like the definition of bad vibes, is the artwork. People even ghosts or, like, they have vibes and shit?
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Yeah, like, that John Wayne Gacy would be putting his, you know, it's your internal,
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the artwork is like your internal. What? You're tripping, man. Man, I'm still on island time.
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Have you been sniffing jailhouse paint fumes and shit? Yeah, I wonder, this is just one more terrible blow to Johnny Depp's whole financial.
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He's in so many. Did you read the Rolling Stone article about Johnny Depp? Recent?
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Yeah. No. About his financial shit? Oh, yes. That he spends like $500,000 a month or something.
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On wine? Oh, bro. It was funny. I did read the thing where recently he punched somebody in the face on the movie set.
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Good for him. The locations manager. Terrible. Good for him. No, I'm totally. That poor location manager is just like, I just want to do my job without getting punched by Johnny Dove.
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Yeah, I make, let's see, eight million less dollars than you. So how about you keep your fucking hands over there?
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Yeah. Yeah. Do we have any housekeeping? Housekeeping. Housekeeping fan cult. What's up?
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We're getting, we're posting weekly videos and we're posting live shows. and we're about to come out with an exciting new merch line.
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Yeah. Like really soon. We've got a couple things in the chamber. Like we keep saying.
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But we do. We just have to organize ourselves and deliver it. But some really good ideas.
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Also, last night on Twitter, I started posting. It was really late. I was just kind of in a weird place.
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And I was thinking about all the hotel rooms I loved on our last, actually, couple of tours.
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So I just started posting pictures of hotel rooms that I've loved. Oh, my God. And people are like, I want to see all of these.
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So, like, I feel like that's for this fall tour I'm going to do. I going to keep a hotel room diary I love it Because a lot of times we just stay at wherever the place is that like mid yeah or whatever we don always splurge like kind of extended stay place yeah
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exactly um but sometimes like on the european tour we splurged in a couple places where it was
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like i can't even believe birthday you guys don't call us snobs don't call us sluts yeah and it was
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her birthday so i had to stay somewhere nice too i can't be staying at a fucking you know
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no offense i actually yeah let's not name names i actually we get an offer from the like days in
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they're like we heard you talk shit about we'd love to work with you um i actually asked vince
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if he would make you stay somewhere bad while i stayed somewhere good he said no oh because
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he'd have to stay there with me yeah so we fought for your love oh bring that to the therapist
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Doug look how much he loves me Doug proof Doug yeah I don't I don't even remember the last time we recorded
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so I can't think of any yes I do oh corrections corners here we go I think I have one and you have one
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okay you go first I can't remember mine so you go first this is I would say could it be our sloppiest
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so far so good So far, so bad. Yeah. So we do have a correction. I have a corrections corner.
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And luckily, I love that this is how everyone now gives us our corrections the nicest, sweetest way possible.
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So, and this one feels especially dumb to me, but on my part. So Bambi wrote to us and wrote, even though Karen and Bjork wore it before Rihanna,
00:19:40
Bantu knots have been around for a long, long time. No shade intended, just info where I was like, oh, thank you, Bambi.
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Oh, my God, that was so nice of you. But if I intimated in any way that I thought Bjork invented those, it makes me feel so stupid because in no way did I think that.
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So thank you so much for the fact that Bambi wrote No Shade was so heartwarming to me because I was like, we get, I mean, like, I can take shade.
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You can serve up the shade if you're pissed. But anyway, so thanks for that. Good job, Bambi.
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See full terms at mintmobile.com. Who goes first this week? If we're going by the live show, then Karen would go first.
00:22:03
did i go first the week before uh do you want to go first no no why did you whisper damn it
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because i'm drinking my uh canned wine and i have to slow down on a canned wine oh okay
00:22:16
all right no it's fine go first okay okay i don't know why i'm i'm like get it out of the way person
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with everything oh i see let's just get shit out of the way that's gonna be fun on vacation oh it's
00:22:27
great i'm great i'm really chill uh well so because i can't let go of being uh in hawaii
00:22:36
uh actually while we were there mary ramazzi who is um it was her mom's house that we were staying
00:22:42
at listens to the podcast hi mary and she was like how have you ever done a hawaiian serial killer
00:22:48
and at first i said no then i remembered there was um randall i'm not gonna be able to remember
00:22:54
his last name but he's the guy that escaped from the mental hospital and actually made it to like
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yeah he made it to california right um and to his brother's house or some shit yeah exactly he was
00:23:06
extremely scary um but i was like are there any because of course at the time where like the palm
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trees were swaying in the background and we're just like there's no way why would anyone well
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then i wikipedia it and there was one it's still a cold case the case of the honolulu strangler
00:23:23
All right. So I don't have to tell, I think, most people about Hawaii. We're not most people, Karen.
00:23:34
First of all, it's a state. Let's just start there. So Hawaii obviously has always been this gorgeous tourist destination.
00:23:45
It is, if you haven't been, I highly suggest that you go to really any of the islands, including Molokai.
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It used to be a leper colony. Now there's about 11 people that live there. My sister's gone.
00:24:00
We have distant family that live there. It's like my cousin's wife's sister's family.
00:24:07
And my sister said it's incredible and very remote. It's just that thing where when you go on vacation in Hawaii, you really are just gone.
00:24:15
You're out in the middle of the ocean. And it's an amazing experience. So anyway, it was a huge vacation destination in the 50s.
00:24:26
And then it had this resurgence in the 80s. Because after in like the 60s and 70s, the tourism had fallen off.
00:24:33
It was huge for so long. And then like everything, you know, there was the recession and people started staycationing with no name or cute BuzzFeed columns about it.
00:24:43
They just didn't go anywhere. It was just called don't fucking go anywhere. It was called we're fucking broke.
00:24:49
Yeah. If you want to go into nature, stand outside. But by the mid 80s, it was ramping back up again.
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The island of Oahu, which is where Honolulu is. So I'm not going to act like a total expert because we like, you know, I think when I was growing up, I just thought of Hawaii as Honolulu.
00:25:07
It was just like there was a picture on our refrigerator of my grandma in the 50s standing in front of a big pink hotel in Honolulu wearing a lei.
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And it was like that was the shit. It was like the American dream. But in the 80s, it came back so that you there were people like baseball shirts that said Hawaii 82 on the front of them.
00:25:27
Remember those tourism shirts where it was like the year? It looked like a football shirt, but it was like Hawaii 82.
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I remember like it was like, it was like, where are you going to live? Hawaii. Like it was like the place to be.
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And I remember someone at school saying that all the drinking fountains had pineapple juice in them.
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And I was like, oh my God. It's so like, that's like what paradise it was. It was like pineapple juice and all the water fountains.
00:25:51
I was just like blown away. Although I have to say the first time I visited Hawaii with my ex, we sat and ate fresh pineapple and triscuits and cheese for like a week straight.
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That's all. I was like, I'm fine. And you know the tropical snack of triscuits and cheese.
00:26:11
Triscuits and cheese. I was like, here's my protein. Yeah. Got a grain. And now it's just pineapple, pineapple, pineapple.
00:26:17
So amazing. Love it. Um, so, uh, okay. So in the eighties, one of the main reasons tourism kicked up again, and also there was,
00:26:26
um, military personnel and people coming to work at telecom companies. So all these people, there was an influx of people coming into the state of Hawaii.
00:26:36
Um, 10 and a half million people visited the islands during this time. And this, uh, all before the stock market crash of 87.
00:26:45
I didn't know existed. All right. 87. We can't get into the stock market right now.
00:26:50
This is not a stock market podcast, guys. Could you imagine if I just started? It was a bull and bear market.
00:26:56
You're just like, what? You don't know how to pronounce city names, but you can talk about the stock market?
00:27:02
The crash of 87. But it was so for Hawaii, huge for the economy, great for business.
00:27:10
But of course, with all those people brought the influx and increase of robberies, rapes and violent crimes.
00:27:17
Stop it. And up until this point, as far as they knew, there had never been a serial killer on the island.
00:27:24
In terms of the police ever knowing about it. On May 29, 1985, Vicki Purdy, she leaves home around 6 o'clock.
00:27:33
She's going to go out clubbing with her friends. And she's going to go dancing and drinking, essentially.
00:27:38
She's a tourist or she lives there? She lives there with her husband. And she's going to go into Waikiki and go drinking and dancing with her friends.
00:27:47
So the husband stays at home and she's going to go out and party. She parks her car at a place called the Shorebird Hotel.
00:27:56
She ends up calling her friends. She doesn't meet up with her friends until she calls them at 10 p.m.
00:28:03
And she tries to make a plan of meeting up with them. But she never shows up and they never see her or hear from her again.
00:28:13
Her husband, Gary, she doesn't at midnight when she's not home. Her husband starts to worry and she has a pager.
00:28:19
He starts paging her over and over. Yeah. But she never answers. And the last person to see her alive is a cab driver who dropped her off at the Shorebird Hotel to pick up her car at midnight.
00:28:33
So she had gone somewhere, but it wasn't to meet her friends. Yeah. They're not sure.
00:28:40
Like her weird. Yeah. so in the morning get he pages her and pages her goes to sleep assumes she's just going to get home
00:28:48
late um in the morning he sees that she's never come home and he's frantic so he goes into waikiki
00:28:55
to look for her himself um and he finds her car at the shorebird hotel her keys and purse are gone
00:29:02
there's nothing like of her own in the car but there's a dent in the car that was not there
00:29:07
when she had left the day before. Oh, no, I did. And then the next morning, Gary's worst fears come true.
00:29:15
Vicky's body is found in the Ke'ehi Lagoon. She was wearing the yellow jumpsuit and the red belt that she was wearing
00:29:23
when she left the house the night before. Her arms are bound behind her back, and she has been raped and strangled.
00:29:30
So she had been working at a video store. So her husband, Gary, tells police he thinks it's related to her work
00:29:39
because the video store has an adult bookshop connected to it. And six months before Vicki started working
00:29:47
at this video store, there was a double murder. What? Yeah, at that location. Ultimately the police decided it was a coincidence and it didn have anything to do with her murder But I think that insane What was the double murder was It was just what that
00:30:05
Like, we don't know what the double murder was. No. Okay. I think I was a cab driver.
00:30:10
So eight months later, 17 year old Regina Sakamoto leaves for school at Waipahu.
00:30:18
And of course, I apologize for all these pronunciations are some of the hardest.
00:30:23
You're trying. so like you're trying my best i can tell and i and the think that they should cut you a break
00:30:29
well i did look up ke ihi that lagoon i i watched a news reporter from hawaii say it about 29 times
00:30:38
but it's still when you look at it you just doubt it because you know um there's so many e's yeah
00:30:43
uh so waipaihu high is where she was um it's her senior year she plans to go to hawaii pacific
00:30:51
University that fall. And her younger brother, Omar, describes her as a fun loving person and
00:30:57
someone everyone looked up to. So on January 14, 1986, it's 715 in the morning. And she calls her
00:31:05
boyfriend from a phone booth to tell him she's missed her school bus, and that she's going to
00:31:10
be late for school. And that's the last time anybody hears from her. So that next morning,
00:31:16
her body is found by fishermen a mile away from where vicki purdy's body was found in the keehi
00:31:24
lagoon um regina's body is naked from the waist down again hands bound behind her back she's been
00:31:31
raped and strangled and except for that location only a mile away it's a it's the exact copy of
00:31:38
vicki purdy's murder how how far apart were these two the location no no the time eight months okay
00:31:45
Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. So then two weeks after that, two weeks, okay. On January 30th, 21-year-old Denise Hughes is on her way to work.
00:31:56
So she lives in a neighborhood called Pearl City, which is north of Honolulu. And she is a secretary.
00:32:04
She works for a phone company and commutes to work by bus. and Denise's mom told her
00:32:11
she thought that Pearl City was too remote too far away there weren't enough people that lived there
00:32:16
and she didn't like the fact that she would commute by bus and wait at that bus stop by herself
00:32:21
so her mom told her wait until the last second when you know the bus is coming and then go out to the bus stop
00:32:26
so that you're not just standing around by yourself and that's normally what she did
00:32:31
mom good idea yeah but that day January 30th 1986 Denise never shows up for work
00:32:38
And two days later, three teenagers are crabbing near the Moana Lua stream, which is two miles upstream from the Kehe Lagoon.
00:32:50
And they come across something that's wrapped in blue material in the water. Yeah, it's the body of Denise Hughes.
00:32:58
And again, her hands were bound behind her back. She'd been raped and strangled.
00:33:03
But because her body was in the water, it had a lot more decomposition. Um, uh, but all three women so far have been found south of their homes by the Honolulu
00:33:15
airport and close to, if not in water. So the police can no longer dismiss that these murders aren't connected.
00:33:22
Yeah. And the way the bodies like are still bound behind their hands, behind their back.
00:33:27
Yep. Rape. Everything about the MO is, is so matching. Oh, how creepy. So, but up until this point, the Hawaiian authorities have never dealt with a serial killer to the point where when they finally make, when they talk about it in the paper, they have to explain what serial killer means.
00:33:46
That's how untouched the community had been up until that point in the mid 80s. So the Honolulu police set up a serial killer task force that will eventually over that year, it grows into consisting of 27 people.
00:34:01
and they actually end up enlisting the help of the FBI and the Green River Killer Task Force.
00:34:07
Yeah, they were really smart. They reached out to all the right places, but they have nothing to work with,
00:34:12
almost nothing to work with, because when the bodies are in the water, there's no blood evidence,
00:34:17
and it was before DNA evidence was in the fore in any way. It's just such a new concept in general to everybody.
00:34:26
So police make this announcement, and they think at least two of the women possibly could have accepted rides from strangers while they were waiting at these bus stops.
00:34:35
And because of that, the authorities caution all women not against taking rides or hitchhiking at all.
00:34:44
Good for them for, like, you know, not hiding it and instead being like. Yes, like safety first.
00:34:51
I mean, it should be like, men, stop killing women. Of course, we know that. But in addition to that.
00:34:56
But since we know that's never, that's a note that won't be taken apparently. Right.
00:35:01
But what they do tell women to do is that travel in groups, wear clothing that they can move quickly in, which I think is kind of amazing because I've always been a big believer in runnable shoes.
00:35:13
Like high heels are fine for when you're indoors and looking pretty. But like, you know, that makes me happy.
00:35:21
that's like wear clothing that would allow freedom the freedom to move quickly don't carry packages
00:35:27
so don't don't be bundled up and weighed down with stuff and don't get close to cars that
00:35:33
approach you asking for directions so they got real specific with warning people and they said
00:35:39
they told women quote if you feel like you're being followed trust your gut which is rad yeah
00:35:45
They even set up a sting using undercover policewomen around the Honolulu airport, but nothing ever came of it.
00:35:53
Yeah. So about six weeks later on March 26th 25 Louise Medeiros from Waipahua she leaves the island of Oahu and she going to visit her family on Kauai
00:36:08
That's where I was. So Louise's mother had died recently, and she has to go there for the reading of the will.
00:36:15
But she has two kids, and she's three months pregnant. So she's trying to make it the fastest possible trip,
00:36:22
because she left her two kids with her boyfriend and she's just like, I got to get back.
00:36:27
Her family wants her to wait until morning so that she doesn't have to take the bus from the airport late at night.
00:36:34
But Louise is like, no, I have to get back as soon as possible. When she gets off her airplane in Honolulu, she disappears.
00:36:41
And a week later on April 2nd, Louise's body is found at the north end of the Kehe Lagoon.
00:36:51
She is naked from the waist down. Her hands are bound behind her back. And like the three victims before her, she's been sexually assaulted and strangled.
00:36:59
Oh, my God. So the whole MO is the same. Yeah. And then three weeks after that. Jesus.
00:37:06
Yeah. On April 29th, 36-year-old Linda Pesci leaves for work in her car. So she also works for a phone company.
00:37:14
She's recently been promoted there. She's a single mother devoted to her daughter.
00:37:18
She has a roommate and she tells the roommate, tonight I have a meeting, so I'm going to be home later than normal.
00:37:24
When Linda doesn't arrive home by the next morning, the roommate's really concerned.
00:37:32
She calls up and finds out Linda left work at 630. Her roommate calls the police because she knows that Linda would never go anywhere without her daughter.
00:37:41
It would never happen. Yeah. And Linda's car is found on the Nimitz Highway at the northeastern end of the Kehe Lagoon.
00:37:51
Shit. And from what the police put together, they figure that her car broke down half a mile from a bus stop.
00:38:01
No. Yep. So they immediately call a press conference. They warn the community that Linda is now considered a missing person.
00:38:09
And they tell women not to leave their car if it breaks down. If your car breaks down on the side of the road, stay inside of it with the door locked.
00:38:18
And then the police say, which is very touching and sad, this involves everybody's wives, everybody's girlfriends, and everybody's daughters.
00:38:27
We have lost our innocence as a community. How terrifying. And also when you go over there, it's so tiny.
00:38:34
I mean, it really is a community. Everybody knows each other on all these islands.
00:38:41
I mean, I can't speak for Oahu, but the places I've been, which is Maui and Kauai, it really
00:38:46
seems like you're coming into a neighborhood. It's not like a whole island. It's just a little neighborhood where people wave to each other as they drive by.
00:38:56
Four days later, and this is where it gets fucking weird as hell. Okay. A 43-year-old mechanic calls the police and tells them that a psychic told him that Linda Pesci's body was located in a place called Sand Island.
00:39:11
Bullshit. And he tells police that he followed the directions that the psychic gave him and that he thinks he found the body.
00:39:18
And he also explains he knows Linda Pesci because she tried to sell him a pager one time so that they had a connection at one point.
00:39:28
Fishy. Uh-huh. so um police check linda's appointment book and they see that this mechanic's name is actually
00:39:37
anna's information is in her appointment book and she had written it in there the day she disappeared
00:39:42
so my god they go to sand island the authorities go to sand island with this mechanic
00:39:48
and he shows them around the whole island i don't know how big it is i imagine it's
00:39:54
some little place, but size of a grain of sand. I'm not sure. He walks around the whole island,
00:40:01
avoiding one spot. And then he's like, Oh, I guess it's not here. When police check out that spot,
00:40:07
that's where they find Linda Pesci's body. She is face down, covered in dirt. And there's a
00:40:13
concrete block on top of her. And she's been raped and strangled. So meanwhile, when when she went
00:40:20
missing, the police actually put up a roadblock and they started asking, they stopped commuters
00:40:25
and asked them about what they saw the night that Linda's car broke down on the side of the road.
00:40:30
And one witness said that she saw a Caucasian or a mixed race man in his 30s or early 40s driving
00:40:37
a light colored American made van that had black lettering on it. And they were seen, he was seen
00:40:44
in his van on the side of the road with Linda and her broken down car. The mechanic fit the
00:40:48
description the mechanic that brought them to sand beach fits the description of this guy the the
00:40:54
mechanic that brought them to sand beach has a light colored american made van with black lettering
00:40:59
on it he's 43 years old he's like right in there and he lives in the iwa beach ewa iwa beach area
00:41:07
um which actually the task force had you know when they do that thing where they do like a
00:41:12
with this uh compass or whatever and it's like this is the area they'll probably live because
00:41:17
It's like right in the vicinity in the middle. Yes. Yes. Like that. So he was right in that spot.
00:41:23
Iwa Beach was right in that area. I'm sure some FBI profiler, I don't know specifically if that's who it is, but they had basically
00:41:30
figured that he worked at an air cargo company or a place near or at the airport on Lagoon
00:41:35
Drive. Police figured that he worked at the airport or nearby the airport. I was going to guess the airport.
00:41:41
The, yeah, the, the, the mechanic who called them and talked about the psychic worked at
00:41:46
an air cargo company near the airport on Lagoon Drive, which is the road that runs along
00:41:53
the Kihei Lagoon Dude Yes This guy has no prior record but he does have relationship issues yeah i mean well don we all they start to surveil this guy and they see they catch him trying to scrape the
00:42:09
letters off of his van yeah on may 9th six days after he had led the police to linda's linda pesci's
00:42:16
body um they bring the mechanic in for questioning he sits in the interrogation room from eight o'clock
00:42:22
until three in the morning, Jesus, barely moving, arms crossed, head down. He won't say a word.
00:42:29
That's the creepiest thing I've ever heard. They give him a polygraph. He fails it.
00:42:35
But the police know that they only have circumstantial evidence that basically it's just eyewitnesses.
00:42:40
And so they go and talk to his ex-wife and his girlfriend, both of whom tell police that this guy is into bondage,
00:42:50
specifically tying hands behind the back. Yeah. Also, the girlfriend says that they got into fights and he stormed out of the house on the nights that these girls went missing.
00:43:05
No. Yes. But again, this is all hearsay. And he said, she said. Can you imagine realizing that when you're like, put the nights together and you're like, the slow burn reveal of this person is not only who I think it is, but perhaps a complete monster.
00:43:23
Oh! Yeah. So, of course, of course. I don't know what's happening to me. A horse is a horse.
00:43:30
A horse is a horse, of course, of course. He lawyers up and never talks to police again.
00:43:35
They go to the DA saying, we have all this, but it's all circumstantial. And the DA says, if we take this to trial, we will lose.
00:43:43
And he'll be gone forever. When the mechanic walked out the police station door, the local press was there waiting.
00:43:50
and someone asked if he knew Linda Pesci and he started to say, I haven't talked to...
00:43:56
Then he stopped talking. What does that mean? He realized he should not be saying anything
00:44:01
to the press at all. What was he going to say? But he basically started to give an answer.
00:44:06
I haven't talked to... And then Linda since the day I killed her. I mean, so months after this,
00:44:13
a woman comes forward and says, and she ends up, she says she saw a man by the side of the road the woman broke down car the whole thing they put a photographic
00:44:26
line up in front of her and she picks the mechanic out are you kidding well but maybe
00:44:30
she saw him on the news months later like that's weird right well but here's the thing
00:44:35
she will not testify because this is like an actual eyewitness but she says when as as she
00:44:42
passed he turned and looked her right in the eye and she was so scared she's positive if she
00:44:47
testifies he'll kill her that's how scared like scary he was oh my god did you see his picture is
00:44:53
he i see i did see a picture of course transition lenses so he looks like every he looks like any of
00:44:59
those serial killers yeah yeah like a dommer style yes skinny no he had kind of a round face
00:45:06
it was just like but i mean it could it could completely be circumstantial and he just got
00:45:11
caught up and it's not him um no he ended up uh they continue to surveil him he then goes to the
00:45:19
midwest they call whatever state he goes to and they continue to surveil him um while he's there
00:45:27
they call the fbi they follow him to the fbi follows him to europe twice what the fuck he then
00:45:33
moves back to the east he comes back goes to the east coast they continue surveilling him them they
00:45:39
never catch him doing anything they never see anything suspicious nothing at all he ends up
00:45:45
dying in 2003 what the fuck so in 2016 the honolulu police said that they're stepping up cold case
00:45:52
and old cold cases and investigations which is what everyone's doing now which is amazing and
00:45:58
they're they're afraid that the they want to retest the dna they have on file they're not sure
00:46:04
if it's still viable because it's from almost 40 years ago no we we're fine with that we us uh us
00:46:11
dna experts uh-huh like me you you can make it work we can make it work okay good but they they
00:46:18
they say that they consider all cases open until the suspect is identified or caught but not but
00:46:24
another one didn't happen after that correct it all stopped after that it was him and that is the
00:46:30
story of the Honolulu Strangler. There's not that much about it because it's like the classic cold
00:46:37
case. But there was Case File has an episode about it. Okay. Which that guy couldn't be more detailed
00:46:43
or awesome. So I'm sure there's more stuff in there. And then I did find there is an ID channel,
00:46:50
of course, if you Google the Honolulu Strangler, there's an IG channel, there's an episode of a show
00:46:57
called something. Yeah. It's like a bunch of, a bunch of cases. I think profile.
00:47:02
Yes. It's one of them. And it's one of them. You can look at it when you Google it,
00:47:06
you can find a couple of things, but wow, that's awful. I've never heard of it. I've never heard of it.
00:47:12
I mean, it's, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. Um, also just when those, when it is such a classic serial killing case and there's no,
00:47:22
it couldn't even be like, it's not, it's not far apart. Like the first one, there's eight months, but then it's just like this once a month or every two weeks.
00:47:31
That's like it's classic serial killer. Like this guy's just driving around hunting at night.
00:47:36
I mean, and then like his ex-girlfriend, who's just like, yeah, every time we got in a fight, that was a night.
00:47:41
I mean, yeah. Oh, yeah. So many coincidences. Right. But they but they aren't. Shit, dude.
00:47:48
Yeah. That's fucked up. Yeah. Oh, OK. Good job. Mm. Thank you. All right. Give me one second.
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Put that down and we'll do an eye test. I have a problem where I always think Karen, I always think I don't hide my shit enough.
00:50:23
And I think Karen is going to know five seconds before I tell her what murder I'm doing.
00:50:27
I feel like, was your sister or brother sneaky with you? Did they do weird shit like trick you into things?
00:50:35
That's all we did with each other was be sneaky, tricky with each other. Like it was every man for himself.
00:50:40
I'm going to find any kind of dirt against you I can. Jesus Christ. I'm going to read your fucking diary and I'm going to tell mom.
00:50:46
Oh, fuck. And it's not a mystery. See, Laura was the exact opposite. Laura was like the Don Draper of I never think about you at all.
00:50:55
Where like if I put something down like that, she would never even take the time to look at it.
00:51:01
Well, how are you going to get? You know what you do all the time that drives me fucking crazy?
00:51:04
Because all I want to do is look at it. Because you don't close your like you don't.
00:51:09
I know you've mentioned that to me 1000 times. I just feel like I'm going to see something that you don't want me to see that I don't want to see that I'm going to get then see.
00:51:18
like because you love to look at people's phones no but i won't do it i don't do it i don't do it
00:51:23
although i was at joe de rosa's house the other night and he had um like a stack of uh checks
00:51:28
you know like to deposit oh yeah can i look at your checks and i was just like what's that who's
00:51:34
this for what's this for like i totally did that and i was like that might be rude i'm sorry well
00:51:38
he would tell but you know joe is a good enough friend he said i would tell you if i would say no
00:51:42
if i didn't want you to and i said i wouldn't have asked you if i knew you wouldn't care yeah
00:51:46
yeah yeah that's really funny i love looking at people's like weird per diem not per diem but um
00:51:53
what's it called residual checks yeah that's where it's like why did you get a check for four dollars
00:51:58
and 94 cents right we're in china the show you were on for three minutes play i still get checks
00:52:05
from the drew carey show shut up it's insane but they truly are like crazy for nine cents that was
00:52:10
so long ago it was over 52 years ago it doesn't make sense it was 52 years ago tonight tonight
00:52:18
why is your carry on your porch all right listen look look and listen in a fucking stunning
00:52:27
coincidence oh we are going to remain on the island on the fucking you you and me and steven
00:52:35
are on the fucking coincidence island. Yes. Tonight. Yes. We're the only inhabitants
00:52:39
because we're about to fucking do the Galapagos affair. Oh, island time. Island fucking time.
00:52:46
Shit. Now, just so you know, I'm on this island, but I'm not here to make friends.
00:52:50
Good luck, players. I'm going to throw you under a bus. Literally. Okay. Okay, wait.
00:52:56
Sorry, really quick. There's a documentary about this, right? Yes. I've been told to watch this documentary
00:53:00
probably 50 times a night, and I hear it's amazing. They were right. everyone was right okay i know we're like shut up i know everything you know like you know it's
00:53:09
it's fucking good okay great okay but i'm gonna need your help with so like every character in it
00:53:13
looks so much not like anyone okay that i can't describe them by saying they look like a young
00:53:18
so-and-so great so and you're good at that so i need your help i even showed events and i was like
00:53:22
who does this look like to you and he's just like my friend dave from college no no he did get one
00:53:28
good one okay okay can i just tell you sorry tell me always you giving me a job i you just you just
00:53:34
picked up the second grader inside of me and made me sit up real tall like i have a job get your
00:53:40
crayons i love it i'm ready i can't wait let me um all right okay here we go all right let's just
00:53:45
start okay this is what's gonna happen so this this story is told by the inhabitants of this
00:53:53
story like based on the letters that everyone wrote the books that were later that they later wrote about it So what is fact and what is someone else story and isn true and is true is like left up to fucking conjecture
00:54:07
Amazing. Or some word that sounds like that. Yes. So but here's what we know. And here's how we are going to do it.
00:54:13
And just really quick. That's all. The only the way we tell all stories is just through the eyes of either the police or a reporter or a family member.
00:54:23
like you always forget that because you're like no this is fact right and when we do our research
00:54:27
we try our best to find stories that are like to look for the stories that everyone is telling and
00:54:32
piece together what sounds like the most plausible based on what we're telling you and so we're
00:54:37
fucking wrong too probably so we're adding to that guaranteed so but we're right always um
00:54:43
floriana island let's start there it's one of the islands that make up the archipelago
00:54:49
archipelago archipelago didn't know that word before i heard it on uh well let me say this
00:54:56
podcast hold on archipelago great thank you to the podcast the conspirators nice for telling me
00:55:03
how to say that archipelago all right so here we are archipelago uh that makes up the galapagos
00:55:09
islands formed by volcanic eruption it's like another little tiny cluster of islands like
00:55:14
near ecuador that were like that you're in the middle of fucking nowhere okay um
00:55:19
let's see da da da uh uh Floriana is named after Juan Jose Flores he's the first
00:55:26
president of Ecuador during his his administration Ecuador was like you know what
00:55:31
this Galapagos Islands are ours goodbye wow and they were like okay the islands are of course
00:55:36
known for their unique and wondrous creatures like giant tortoises um that are used
00:55:41
as an inspiration for Charles Darwin's the origin of species that's what everyone
00:55:46
knows knows it for you know the island some motherfucking there was like all these like europeans and pirates and people who
00:55:53
would take over this little island of floriana then one dick was like i'm gonna um play a joke
00:55:58
and i'm gonna light a little fire and it ended up burning the whole fucking island down no and um
00:56:05
it's he let's see that's not a funny joke no it's the helmsman of the nantucket whaling vessel the
00:56:11
Essex in 1890 does that. And the captain of the vessel swore retribution on the culprit.
00:56:19
But then the ship is rammed and sunk by a sperm whale and that's when Herman Melville got his
00:56:25
fucking idea to write Moby Dick. Shit! Yeah, so there's like history. Wow. You know what I mean?
00:56:30
Don't burn a fucking island down, you dick. Especially not an archipelago. An archipelago.
00:56:36
Archipelago. Okay. By the 1920s, ecuador is broke and they're like we need some fucking money um let's let's sell the islands
00:56:45
to help with our economy so uh then europeans are like great let's go buy some of these islands
00:56:52
and fucking live there uh it's you know post world war one there's an economic crash and everyone's freaking out so that brings a wave of european settlers
00:57:02
and they want to buy the land and they want to live on a tropical island paradise like this idea
00:57:08
that this is going to be paradise. So two of those people are Dr. Friedrich Ritter, who's 43,
00:57:16
and his lover, who's 15 years younger than him, Dora Strouch. So she's a teacher and a bored
00:57:22
fucking housewife. They're from Germany. And they had met there when Dora had become a patient of
00:57:30
Dr. Friedrich. So they had met when Dora had became a patient of Dr. Ritter. He's a dentist,
00:57:38
I think. And she had Dora had been diagnosed with MS. And all of her doctors were like,
00:57:44
it's incurable. You can't do anything about it. Fucking deal with it. Goodbye. But Dr. Ritter was like, fuck that shit. He believed he was like, super into Nietzsche.
00:57:55
Oh, and he was like, here's, here's what's going to happen if he believed in the healing power of
00:58:01
thought. He mansplained to her that she didn't have to submit to her illness. And she fell in
00:58:07
love with him he fell in love with her and uh they decided to leave their spouses for each other
00:58:14
wow he looks like steve zahn you know nice you know what i mean i love steve zahn like a rugged
00:58:20
steve zahn oh like a rugged 1920s like um did you ever see sunshine cleaning company no um he's
00:58:30
steve zahn in that movie is a cop okay so he's insanely yoked yeah he's like no longer hippie
00:58:36
Steve's on. He's like, he's evil cop Steve's on. Okay. He's like Steve's on and Popeye had a baby.
00:58:42
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And she looks like a young Emma Thompson. Okay. Okay. That's
00:58:47
a nice combination. Right. So Dr. Ritter, he's an eccentric. He studies Nietzsche,
00:58:54
like any good angry hipster I wrote. Sure. Because it's like, oh my God. Like if you went on a date
00:59:00
with a guy who's like, I'm really into Nietzsche. I'd be like, oh wait, sorry, really quick. That's
00:59:04
my friend over there and I would fucking run as fast as I could. Exactly. Baker. Baker. Bye.
00:59:10
So he's into his philosophical principles and his advocacy for a natural life and a vegetarian diet.
00:59:17
And they want to go to an idyllic Pacific Island existence. He just fucking hated modern life. He
00:59:22
was like, get me the fuck out of here. Everyone walks too slow. This sucks. I don't want to be a
00:59:26
doctor. Let's go to a tropical island. Let's get the fuck out of here. Everything is like all about
00:59:31
buying buying shit it's impersonal it's valueless i hate it okay i can get behind that sure sure
00:59:36
and dora was that character sometimes it's fun to live a valueless life oh okay um
00:59:45
so dora is like fuck you know she's 15 years younger she's like oh my god this guy is the
00:59:51
smartest guy ever i obsessed with him i in love with him uh he looks like steve zahn he looks sex he was on so she also hated this bougie lifestyle she didn want to be a fucking housewife for the rest of her life And she was pissed off that she had this like
01:00:05
disease that was like ravaging her body. And her I guess her husband might have been a dick. So
01:00:11
she said that existence poisons the spirit. Which isn't just mere existence. No, no,
01:00:17
that existence oh oh that lifestyle yeah yeah sorry you know uh so she calls dr ritter her
01:00:26
teacher and her guide and her fate oh i know right she got a bad yeah uh wanting to leave
01:00:33
civilization they decide to leave their spouses and they said to the spouses take care of each
01:00:38
other oh like don't do that then you're like looking across the room at some stranger you're
01:00:44
I guess. Really? What do you like? Yeah. So they leave their houses and they get the fuck out of Germany and they travel to the uninhabited Floriana where they could indulge in his raw food theories.
01:00:56
Oh, no. And he could write his magnum opus, which is a philosophical Theothist book.
01:01:07
And then I wrote where he could mansplain her in privacy. Now, if you're a doctor, that's not mansplaining.
01:01:13
that's you know way more than a dentist a person oh okay all right and does he just because you're
01:01:21
a doctor and you like memorize some fucking medical books well yeah if you're a doctor
01:01:24
talking to a patient that's not man yeah but it's now his fucking lover right you know but
01:01:30
she was just like just a lot of editorializing okay fair enough uh just putting it out there
01:01:38
But, okay, so the pair live by the strict Nietzschean principles that Dr. Ritter had imposed on them, including nudism, vegetarianism.
01:01:48
I hate these people so much. They're, like, he sucks so hard. She went with him for some reason.
01:01:55
She's, like, young and thinking. I don't think she's that young. I think he was 43, and he's 15 years younger.
01:02:00
So how many years is that? That's 30. So she's, like, late 20s. Yeah. So she's not that young.
01:02:06
She's not like innocent. A ding dong 17 year old, you know. But I get it if you have some kind of disease where you're just like, oh wait, I better grab life while I can.
01:02:15
Sure. And this person is telling me that I can overcome this disease where everyone else is like, great, you're an invalid now.
01:02:19
And she's like, I want this. Yes. And I'm sick of this boring lifestyle. I think her husband was a dick.
01:02:24
She's like, fuck this shit. Okay. I get it. Listen. I'm behind it. In my late 20s, the fucking dudes I had crushes on.
01:02:30
Oh, it's all like Kierkegaard and fucking veganism and shit. where you're just like, you're so different and new.
01:02:36
Yeah, smoke pot all day? I love it. Oh my God, this is groundbreaking philosophies.
01:02:41
Good job, everybody. It's not that you're lazy and in a band. It's that you're a genius.
01:02:48
It's not that no one will hire you. It's that you don't care about money. I get it now.
01:02:53
I also don't care about money. I have to pay rent again? Yeah, I'll do it. Sounds good.
01:02:58
Great. Someone got to care about that money. Okay, but here's what our exes didn't do.
01:03:03
Oh, so he had this Ritter, Dr. Ritter, the dentist had this obsession. He had he was also really into obsessive mastication, which is exactly what it sounds like.
01:03:14
Chewing, chewing a fuck ton, a fuck ton of chewing. Now, you know, you're supposed to chew 35 times per bite.
01:03:21
Did you know that? I didn't. I don't do that. I rarely do it. But every once in a while, I'll remember.
01:03:26
And then I start counting. And then I'm like, this is insanity. Yeah. Yeah. I hate it.
01:03:32
I remember reading. Sorry. I remember reading. Sorry. This is no sorry. Yeah. I read an article called chew your juice one time.
01:03:40
It was like, you need to do that to juice as well as food where it's like because your your saliva acids needs to break down the thing.
01:03:48
I was just like none of this. Then I'll never get cancer. Yeah. And then I'll be beautiful.
01:03:53
Yeah. Forget it. Yeah. Forget it. It's like it's like the brushing your hair a hundred times thing where it's like but some people are like, no, it'll break your hair.
01:04:00
And it's like, can everyone just shut up? Yeah. Or how about I just do whatever?
01:04:04
Yeah. How about I do my best? So. And my worst. Yes. And his worst was that. So we burped at the same time just now.
01:04:13
Our burp cycles are matching up. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. I'm not talking anymore.
01:04:19
No, no, no. Keep talking. Because yes, you are. Because I'm going to tell you some shit.
01:04:23
Okay. So this rule is obsessive mastication rule had destroyed Dr. Ritter's teeth.
01:04:29
The dentist? Yeah. so before they left germany for this fucking island he was like there's not going to be
01:04:34
dental shit on this island so he pulls all his teeth out what and he instead gets steel dentures
01:04:41
stainless steel dentures no no no before leaving germany so he's got a fucking mouthful of nothing
01:04:47
so he is a bond villain uh-huh on an on an uninhabited island and a nudist do you think
01:04:54
like but it's like they were leaving the night before and then he did that and she was like oh
01:04:59
shit oh i already told my husband to go off with his wife this might have been a mistake shit i
01:05:04
gotta go through it now yeah okay so uh not surprisingly though dr ritter is actually like
01:05:10
kind of a bully he refuses they get to the island great yeah he refuses to allow dora simple pleasures
01:05:16
that his philosophical principles didn't allow like coffee and her teeth no once on the island
01:05:23
And he preemptively removes her teeth as well with garden tools. And together they share his set of dentures.
01:05:33
No. When they need to eat. So then they have to sit there toothless while the other one chews multiple times.
01:05:40
And like pass it back and forth. Like my mom and her boyfriend do the cute thing where they like have his glasses and she hands them and they look at a menu together with their glasses.
01:05:50
Very sweet. Adorable. And now imagine that with fucking teeth. This is We have just gotten to this island and I so disturbed It doesn matter what happens after this It gets so much worse You also just okay Just like the whole story
01:06:05
Just, just remember that they don't have teeth. Because why, you could have moved from like, where were you?
01:06:13
Cologne, Germany. Why didn't you just move over to Berlin and just test it out for two months?
01:06:18
What's the island, the English, where they have the cows and shit? Guernsey. Go to Guernsey.
01:06:22
like you don't need to go to galapagos yes test island first which exactly ireland like even even
01:06:30
there's like a galapagos islands santa cruz it's like kind of inhabited by like a bunch of norwegian
01:06:35
people it's like people are just doing their best there but it's not like you can just be your own
01:06:39
person they were like fuck no and they went to this fucking place where the closest neighbors
01:06:43
were 60 miles away and it's also i don't know okay and it's also not like it's not paradise
01:06:50
If you look at this documentary and these photos, it's like this crazy rocky, like black lava rock beach with like sticks and stuff.
01:07:00
And then they get there and they're like, great, we're just going to plant food and stuff and it's going to be amazing.
01:07:07
But it turns out that it's hard to live on an island because they had to, where did I put that?
01:07:14
Okay. It's actually constant fucking labor instead of the life of contemplation that Dora had envisioned.
01:07:22
So a year. Okay. So they said they were like, we want to be the fucking Adam and Eve.
01:07:28
Sure. Great. So a year and a half in, finally, their Eden is starting to come together.
01:07:35
Dora had tried to keep up with Dr. Ritter. I'm calling him Dr. Ritter. Yeah. uh because he's like you know Popeye and she's like what's up I have MS right but she's like and
01:07:48
no teeth MS and no teeth and he keeps telling me how it's like mind over matter so like I can't
01:07:54
you know I can't be sick he's I can't imagine he's a guy who's gonna bring you like a fucking
01:07:58
cold washcloth when you are exhausted imagine a cold washcloth on your forehead why do you need
01:08:03
a real one right also there's no cold water here so calm down all the water is boiling hot yeah
01:08:08
at i don't know there's no okay but you know he's not gonna baby you yeah you know like the way we
01:08:13
all kind of need when we're sick because we just want somebody to be like what can i bring you he's
01:08:16
like do you have any more teeth i could pull out do you just did i leave one in there i'd love to
01:08:21
pull at least five more teeth there's got to be something um and so it turns out uh that dr
01:08:28
ritter's mansplaining bullshit had not cured dora of her ms yeah which would flare up and make it
01:08:34
hard for her to do any manual labor and like they're pulling like in the documentary they're
01:08:37
pulling trees down and carrying the giant banana stalks and shit yeah um but that only made dr
01:08:43
ritter pissed off that she couldn't get it fucking together and ignore her ms ignore her fucking she couldn't niche you her way out of ms yeah oh this is like when you pick a bad
01:08:58
boyfriend to get away from your current friendship group yeah you know sometimes that happens you're
01:09:02
like no i just need to be with him all the time because you're sick of the people that you're
01:09:06
spending time with the life you have of like mine was like going to like you know dancing and going
01:09:12
to clubs and drinking fucking long island iced teas yeah so i pounded boyfriend i'm like bye
01:09:16
no i'm all about this guy now and then it's like but you didn't move to an island i moved to san
01:09:21
francisco oh same thing same thing actually yeah well so you know exactly what dora's pain is all
01:09:28
about how are your teeth in san francisco well these are all fake look at them they're huge
01:09:33
i can't get over it no you shouldn't get over it it's so nuts ladies okay ladies look and listen
01:09:41
so dora in her writing complains that uh dr ritter his name's frederick but it's frederique
01:09:50
but i don't want to you know say it wrong because it looks like it's the european spelling of
01:09:54
frederick yeah but it's not fred's good let's call him dr fred okay okay she's like fuck dr fred
01:10:00
he's dissatisfied with everything i do um he's stern with her even when she's sick
01:10:05
and he would write home and he would only speak of her negatively in his letters being like she
01:10:11
can't keep up blah blah it's like bitch she came to a fucking island with you yeah and took her
01:10:16
goddamn teeth out um she can't i love this and it doesn't need to be in here but she's like i can't
01:10:24
find kindness and patience with Dr. Fred. So instead, her burrow, her donkey, becomes her best friend.
01:10:32
Oh, no. And there's video of her playing with this sweet donkey. It's like a dog.
01:10:36
And they're playing and dancing. Oh, my God. It's her baby. It's so sad. It's like her baby.
01:10:41
It's so cute. Oh, no. And then fucking Dr. Fred gets pissed off about how she loves animals.
01:10:50
He's mad about it. Yep. Yeah, exactly. that's a Nietzsche was big into animal abuse right and then I wrote this but this bitch took
01:10:58
her teeth out for him and he can't even baby her once in a while I want to know how long they were
01:11:05
together before they left Germany oh that's a great question it was like six months if it was
01:11:10
three weeks and if they were together and hadn't left their spouses yet so they had never like
01:11:13
spent that real night together like a week together or even a weekend which is what used
01:11:18
to happen to people all the time yeah I'm super in love with this person but you've never spent
01:11:22
the night with them exactly exactly yeah okay okay so they write letters documenting their
01:11:29
lives on the island they send they send home and they send to a newspaper in berlin who publishes
01:11:35
these letters and without them knowing it uh they become fucking like kind of famous as the
01:11:43
robinson caruso of the galapagos island oh no so they're like on the cover of newspapers being like
01:11:49
Look at this modern-day Adam and Eve. And they're living off the land. And it's paradise.
01:11:53
And everyone's talking about how incredible this is. That they're doing this. Because no one's smiling in any pictures.
01:11:59
Yeah. um when they find out they're famous they're fucking pissed off about it and the press had
01:12:05
grand grandized their lives on the island and called them eccentrics and philosophers it's like
01:12:11
this you know noble thing they're doing and not they don't write about probably how bad they smell
01:12:16
i'm guessing that donkey's like i'm gonna stand over here yeah even the donkey's like oh so uh
01:12:24
But even a ship full of scientists from America, from the US who were documenting all the exotic animals
01:12:31
throughout the Galapagos stopped by Floriana just to see the, quote, modern day Adam and Eve.
01:12:36
So they were like, we got to add this as a stop on our way. These like famous fucking, this couple.
01:12:41
Like a cruise ship would go by? It's like their big yacht. Oh, okay. So they all, the scientists got off the island
01:12:48
and they all made friends. And, you know, it was a positive thing. Even though Dr. Fred was like,
01:12:54
but I don't want any more visitors. And then he'd just like open his lips. I don't want any more visitors.
01:13:00
Stainless steel. Glare, glare. Steel teeth. Okay. So three years into their life on the island in the summer of 1932,
01:13:08
a fucking schooner arrives carrying Heinz Whitmer and his wife, Margaret, who's five months pregnant, onto the island.
01:13:17
And Heinz's son from a previous marriage named Harry, who's a teenager. so his Harry's uh Harry had fragile health and uh he had gotten sicker sicker recently and they
01:13:29
had been reading about these adventures in the fucking tropics so they were like fuck this let's
01:13:36
get out of here and bring our family and go live on this island uh they were also German they had
01:13:42
sold all their possessions after reading about this stuff and were like we're gonna do this
01:13:46
once they pull up onto the beach they were like oh shit this is not what we fucking thought it
01:13:50
would be they find a a desolate island with only one stream so heinz and margaret are like
01:14:01
comparably very normal like they're a normal couple with normal wants etc and the doctor
01:14:09
and dora are like this is the most boring couple that could have come to this fucking island
01:14:14
like we're not gonna have they say to each other as they pass teeth back and forth yeah you're right
01:14:21
they're boring they're the boring ones fucking lunatics so when the um when they uh so doctor
01:14:29
the doctor and dora start fucking blobby-blawing about nietzsche the whitmers are like double what
01:14:34
the fuck this fucking these are not normal people these people are bananas and they're like we what
01:14:40
did we do we shouldn't have come here and then margaret also who's five months pregnant she
01:14:44
expected that this dude dr fred would fucking doctor her and help her with her pregnancy dude
01:14:51
like for free you know and a dentist and he's a dentist i'm not 100 sure he's a dentist it said
01:14:57
it in some of the shit and some of the others okay uh but it's it is that's a mistake you could
01:15:04
make where it is still counts as a doctor right you could be a doctor and be a researcher you
01:15:09
could be a doctor right and be like no i just wrote a super long paper yeah it doesn't mean i
01:15:13
know how to deliver your baby yeah yes that's true yeah so uh and and dr fred was like i don't
01:15:20
want to be a fucking doctor anymore fuck you normal woman you think i'm gonna deliver your
01:15:24
fucking baby um and then it can't be too normal if they just shut their whole life down and then
01:15:32
we're like oh we're gonna go live with people from a magazine well it also seems like they had this
01:15:36
like fantasy of what it was gonna be like and it was not like that at all um and of course dora
01:15:42
immediately dislikes Margaret, the pregnant woman, because she's content to be a housewife. Like,
01:15:48
it's, you know, just be a mother and a wife. That's all she wants. Yeah. So it's immediately
01:15:52
like disdain for each other. So Dr. Fred's, of course, pissed to have these boring uninvited
01:15:59
guests. So he is like, Yeah, let me show you where you can stay. And he like walks them for
01:16:05
like an hour to these caves where pirates used to live. And he's like, here's your home. Goodbye.
01:16:10
and like leaves them there to fucking fend for themselves such a dick these are guest caves
01:16:18
there's towels in the way back they look like bats but don't even pay attention to that
01:16:23
don't worry about it uh but it turns out that the whitmores are good at island living
01:16:29
and quickly their little enclave is thriving oh which of course pisses dr fred off because
01:16:35
that they didn't have the same experience. Well, you know what it is, is that they had three sets of teeth.
01:16:42
And that's the key to island living. You gotta gnash. You gotta be able to gnash if you want to thrive on an island.
01:16:50
We've always said that, you and I. You and I, that's basically our fucking tagline for this podcast.
01:16:57
Okay. So they're doing well at the caves. They're doing great at the caves. Pisses Dr. Fred off.
01:17:02
But quickly, they kind of fall into this understanding of like, you know, they're not besties, but they are they're doing OK.
01:17:10
They're neighbors, you know, no one loves their neighbors. True. And everything kind of settles down and everyone settles into this life.
01:17:16
Fine. Great. And then the fucking Baroness shows up. The Baroness? The fucking Baroness.
01:17:22
Is that my part? This is where Karen comes in. Karen comes in, no joke, riding a fucking donkey.
01:17:29
A second donkey? Yes. Oh, hell yes. yeah with uh she didn't steal the other one i don't think so i don't know which i tried to find
01:17:36
this fucking happy dog like the friend donkey so like the name of it and i couldn't find it
01:17:40
let's call him uh clive okay okay clive uh okay she comes up this woman gets there she is the
01:17:53
baroness eloise were born de wagner bosquet is her name hell yes but we gonna call her the baroness although i do love the name eloise uh she comes to this fucking island i think she been reading about
01:18:06
it as well in the newspapers and and because she's also german she said she's from vienna
01:18:10
and she's like guess what motherfuckers i'm opening a luxury hotel for american millions
01:18:15
millionaires on this island what's up here i am coming in on a donkey margaret's the first one to
01:18:20
see her she fucking pulls up she's got like a gun uh and and she's flanked by two men that are both
01:18:28
her lovers yes yeah my role of a lifetime and she looks like all right here we go here's where i need
01:18:35
your help okay okay hold on yay this is my favorite story of all time okay tell me i need you to tell
01:18:43
me what she looks like and i need you to tell me also if she kind of looks like me she has my mouth
01:18:48
okay these fake teeth i have she has them straight out of galapagos all right so this is she
01:18:55
here she is okay with her two lovers sweet i'm so into two lovers just get it going
01:19:03
whoa okay yes or no she kind of looks like me i feel like it's like a clea duval
01:19:08
you know who she looks like is maggie gyllenhaal totally straight up you are much much prettier
01:19:15
than this lady the baroness the baroness is so funny she totally looks like i knew you'd know
01:19:21
this yeah this is my speciality that's maggie gyllenhaal do you want to see the toothless
01:19:25
wonders yes please oh wait a second i'm just gonna say her lovers look like um i was gonna say
01:19:30
the blonde one looks like uh prince charles a young prince charles yeah no you can do better
01:19:35
than that well it's the ears you nailed that okay because he's tall and skinny um but he actually
01:19:43
looks like james cromwell the actor james cromwell yes uh la confidential they're like can you believe
01:19:49
james cromwell was this hot when he was young yep that's what he looks like in the city definitely
01:19:53
then this guy in the front no one ever like maybe a steve martin character yeah like a like from the
01:20:01
jerk he totally has steve martin face where's like squinty eyes but also standardized good looking
01:20:06
it's like a steve martin doing a character 100 like weird curly wavy hair yeah he has very
01:20:12
20s hair it looks like yes he he puts a headband in to make it look like that 100 let me find um
01:20:19
also i don't doubt that those two guys might not look for the affections of each other i think i
01:20:25
think we all slept in a bed together if you know what i mean i think these guys kicked off pansexuality
01:20:29
80 years before it was cool well here so here's the thing okay here's here's um what did it steve
01:20:35
martin no no uh buscemi no the the guy who i said the toothless people look like oh yes
01:20:42
yes doesn't he kind of um how come we can't remember steve on eric vaughn you're thinking vince vaughn
01:20:53
yeah it looks and then she's dead on she's a young emma thompson maybe yeah i think there's
01:21:01
something better there but i can't figure out there is something better but you know what it is
01:21:04
Not a lot of actresses look like this woman because her nose is kind of big. So you don't get very many mainstream actresses that look like this.
01:21:14
And mainstream actresses usually put in fake teeth after they pull them on. That's right.
01:21:19
They wouldn't go full dentures for a man. You know who he looks like? And maybe this is why you're thinking Emma Thompson.
01:21:27
He looks like Kenneth Branagh. Who's that? He used to be married to Emma Thompson.
01:21:33
Remember that guy? no let me look you know i don't know anyone kenneth braun oh here he comes braun let's see
01:21:40
oh yeah come on dude honk honk guys right now guys i'm doing that when you pull the air for a
01:21:47
semi truck to honk at you she's doing it so and then the whitman whitmers are just so boring that
01:21:55
they don't even they're not gonna look like anyone okay you know yeah you want to see them though
01:22:00
they're sure they're just not they just look any but like anybody they look like nobody and anybody
01:22:05
okay they're fine i'm gonna picture um those two people from the american gothic painting one guy
01:22:10
looks like an old farmer oh my god is that it yes i'm psychic hug hug hug give me that air horn
01:22:18
bitch okay i just have to say guys i've been drinking cold brew coffee and i have lost my
01:22:25
mind. Karen came over. I'm out of water. So I was like, don't see cold brew. And I was like,
01:22:30
you pour it. I don't want to like make it for you because I know how hard it is. And she pours
01:22:34
herself some and I went, Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Like she poured that much in her. And I've only had
01:22:39
half. You've only not even had half. So yeah, this is the greatest experience. This episode is
01:22:44
to warn you about the dangers of cold brew coffee. That's right. Can I tell you one of my saddest
01:22:50
things that happened while you were gone? Yes. Really quickly. That you missed me. Sidebar.
01:22:53
and then I missed you. Okay. 100%. Okay. There was an estate sale close by. And they had a photo on
01:23:01
the fucking listing of the case that when you that you'd get you'd see in health class when a cop
01:23:08
would come for like dare or like warn you of drugs. Yeah, case that they opened up and showed
01:23:13
you all the drugs. They had a fucking narc like narcotics example case. Yes. And I fucking almost
01:23:21
lost my mind i went early in the morning on like a thursday morning before therapy i was late to
01:23:27
therapy i didn't tell her why but we have talked about my shopping addiction it's fine everything's
01:23:33
fine uh and it was gone already and i was that's where i got you the fucking paint by numbers
01:23:39
that thing is amazing i really wish i had taken the price tag off so you didn't know it was 15
01:23:44
dollars but i saw it and i was like i have to get this to karen but like through the week uh since
01:23:48
you've been gone, I've been like getting used to it and liking it. And I was like, do I give that to Karen?
01:23:53
And then you came in. I was like, give it to Karen, Georgia. Come on You have everything And suddenly it missing from the wall in my house I like wait a second It weird God that was just pointless It was super worth it Boop boop boop
01:24:05
But they also go for like $400 on eBay, I found out since. What, paint by numbers paint?
01:24:10
No. The drug case. The drug suitcase. All I want, someone whose dad was a DARE counselor, go into your basement.
01:24:19
I promise you, you're going to have one of those. like there's a thing that calls that it says like a heroin outfit and it shows like the heroin shit
01:24:26
like a spoon and a needle it's called a heroin outfit and then someone on my instagram where
01:24:32
don't you hate when you go to a party and someone's wearing the same heroin i loved it okay i want one anyways two lovers so her lovers are robert phillipson and rudolph
01:24:46
lauren's he's the blonde guy she's so uh the baroness is described as a flamboyant and ill
01:24:52
tempered woman hell yes from vienna okay uh she both couples are on the island are fucking
01:25:00
scandalized as shit by her and her lover's arrival she is way before her time like feminist as fuck
01:25:06
she's brash and brazen uh she dominates her lovers who are by all accounts terrified of her
01:25:13
but clearly turned on by it right they come to a fucking island with her you know
01:25:19
she's most definitely a narcissist uh she yes she even later convinces those scientists when
01:25:28
they come back on their yacht to like visit the island again she convinces the captain
01:25:32
to make a silent film with starring her and she's a man-hungry pirate pirate pirates
01:25:40
pirate tists in in the movie in this silent film movie amazing which you it is in the fucking uh
01:25:48
documentary or you can just watch it online it's like a silent film she's wearing like a mesh
01:25:52
like you can see her titties like yeah it's like a mesh shirt nips are out like and apparently she
01:25:57
walks around the island in a bra and underwear and doesn't give a fuck like with a fucking pistol
01:26:02
and shit oh yeah she sports a writing crop and an ivory-handled pistol pistol which she's fond
01:26:07
of pointing at people who displease her her name is karen kilgarra in another way do this thing this
01:26:15
is what you're gonna be like as an old woman this is i cannot wait well we don't like this part though
01:26:19
okay she liked to shoot animals in the leg so that she could have the pleasure of nursing them
01:26:24
back to health ew monster in fact she once stole a burrow and i don't know if it's uh cleave
01:26:32
clive clive you said i don't know if it's clive but she took a burrow from the dr fred's house
01:26:39
put it into the patio of the whitmers and uh so and then the whitmer was like i thought it was uh
01:26:48
you know uh wild and shot it so like she's stirring shit up she's like kind of a she's
01:26:53
yeah she's trying to mix it up on that island she has fun fucking with people of all the people that
01:26:58
could land on that island the baroness shows up well she's like i'm gonna make a million bucks for
01:27:03
this fucking island or a hotel of mine amazing yeah so okay writing crop baby of a buck okay
01:27:11
she even chased visitors off the island one time shot one though she didn't kill him don't worry
01:27:17
this of course pisses everyone else off uh and she continues to do so by anytime like people would
01:27:24
come by and passing ships and leave them gifts of like food and you know shit to help them live
01:27:29
she would fucking be like my bitch and like steal it um with her boobs swinging back and forth got
01:27:36
it come and fight me for it exactly and she would open their mail and so the outgoing mail she would
01:27:42
write uh her own version of shit with her as the star so like the shit that went to the fucking
01:27:47
And newspapers would be like, this Baroness, who's this hot fucking, you know, lady.
01:27:52
And so she became like the star of the island, which, of course, pissed everyone off.
01:27:57
Well, she deserves it. Does she? Okay. Yes, probably. She would change the wording of his letters.
01:28:04
And she became something of an international celebrity. Yeah, she did. Because the public loved the scandalous tales of her.
01:28:10
So, like, yachts would come to see her and bring her gifts and shit. I bet. Yeah.
01:28:15
uh the everyone else is like fuck the shit they complain to the governor of the galapagos and he
01:28:21
pays the visit to the island to be like let me sort this out fucking totally falls for the
01:28:26
baroness's bullshit because she's charming as fuck yeah and he's like uh he grants her four
01:28:31
square miles of territory for her proposed hotel include which includes that stream that everyone
01:28:37
shared oh the whitmers and dr ritter and dora only get 50 acres each yeah because they're not
01:28:44
interesting i don't know i think dr ritter and dora are pretty fun or dr friend and dora are
01:28:50
pretty interesting but they're they just took it in such a weird direction of removing their teeth
01:28:55
i feel like they're boring and they're interesting boring and they seem crazy like and they think
01:29:00
they're really interesting yes it's like fake the nietzsche interesting is not truly interesting
01:29:05
because that's not original you're just yeah reading something and repeating other people's
01:29:09
ideas yeah and then pulling each other's teeth and then in addition to that yeah and listen i'm
01:29:14
probably saying Nietzsche wrong. I don't give a shit. Oh, I did. I said Nietzsche. I don't know.
01:29:18
Nietzsche, Nietzsche. Listen, I didn't go to college and I don't care. Look and listen.
01:29:21
Can't care. Not interested. Okay. Boo, boo, boo. All right. So now here comes the email
01:29:26
from Nietzsche himself. How dare you? He's dead, Karen. Is he? Corrections corner. Do
01:29:30
we know this for a fact? Does time exist? Is he? Is he an Ubermensch or not? Time is
01:29:35
a flat circle. Isn't it? That's from True Detective. No, is it? Yeah. Okay. So now
01:29:41
shitharts start sitting the fan in 1933 the island is hit by a year-long drought so of course
01:29:47
everyone like up on their fucking crazy time yeah you know sure um that stream becomes very important i would imagine that stream becomes a trickle of fucking water oh shit yeah so all the plants and shit start to die that their food source especially those fucking nietzsche vegetarians over there right they can eat burrow meat no the whitmers blame the duchess and her entourage
01:30:10
for the drought because of the stream uh dr fred's pissed that so many people are on his fucking
01:30:15
island the baroness is fucking with both her lovers and pinning them against each other
01:30:20
her former favorite the blonde guy Rudolph Lawrence becomes like a slave and has to like
01:30:27
build a hotel for them he's like a whipping boy to her and he has to do all the difficult labor
01:30:34
did I tell you that the hotel's called the Hacienda Paradiso? no that's right that's rad
01:30:38
that's also what your house is called now that sure is come to the Hacienda that's what your
01:30:44
pussy is called now so many donkeys no edit that out lorenzo edit that out uh okay he and lorenzo's barely fed enough to survive
01:31:02
and she lets her lover beat him as well so she's letting one lover beat the other one
01:31:08
while she starves him and he does all the work there's no way he wasn't into that somehow
01:31:12
like he's that was definitely it was sexual definitely probably okay so and then there are
01:31:21
rumors so like mr whitmer and fucking dr fred are both like i hate this woman yeah but there's
01:31:28
rumors of them both making regular visits to her fucking ding dong ding dong they're like hey i
01:31:34
just want to come up and say i saw your your boobies swinging on the beach today and i just
01:31:40
want to say I'm a big fan and thank you so much yeah and so then probably the wives are pissed or
01:31:45
the women are mad about that too I mean listen I'm not going to be maybe they're hooking up with
01:31:50
her too we don't know anything could happen but you know when there's like especially at this time
01:31:54
a strong woman that's like bossy and making waves yeah there's that is a scapegoat waiting to happen
01:32:02
plus like Dora goes there to seemingly to be subservient to this man that she is so excited
01:32:07
to have all for her like to herself like when i was that young and i would date older dudes i'd be
01:32:12
like all i want is to be somewhere alone with you and like for you never to look at another woman
01:32:15
again right like just pay attention to me yeah you know yeah so i take my teeth impossible yeah
01:32:22
i took my teeth out for you motherfucker then you learn that you have to become the person that the
01:32:27
other person is like all i want to do is be alone with you and be with you forever that's right so
01:32:30
that you can go no thanks yeah or you both have that and then you're me and vince oh my god sorry
01:32:37
call the therapist and cancel all your future appointments we're fine next time i come here it's all silver tea it's shared silver tea you guys didn't do it please
01:32:49
tell me you didn't do it elvis has turned into a burrow we name him clive jesus christ jesus
01:32:55
clive jesus clive okay lord pissed off the baroness okay wait okay so and lorenz this the
01:33:03
fucking whipping boy is like one toke over the line or like you didn't listen to my safe word or
01:33:08
something yeah he fucking gets the fuck out of there and goes to the whitmers he first goes to
01:33:12
dr fred and dory he's like get me the fuck out of here and they're like no no we like the baroness
01:33:16
will be pissed at us so he goes to this sweet whitmers we're like they seem like a very sweet
01:33:21
normal family she has her baby they have children on the island like they're truly just trying to be
01:33:26
like it really seems like it getting away from it all let's get the young asthmatic to get some
01:33:31
fresh air type of stuff. I think they had really good intentions and they were boring and normal and just like
01:33:35
wanted to live this island life. Okay. So they do take Lorenz in. And that, of course, pieces the baroness off because then Lorenzo tells them that she isn't
01:33:48
a fucking baroness at all. Oh, she's not? I'm sorry. No, she's not. She'd actually been a cabaret dancer in Constantinople during World War I.
01:33:58
What? Yeah. You mean it used to be Istanbul and now it's Constantinople? it's an opaline it's a like basically yeah okay and then uh i love her more now she's insane i
01:34:08
love her she had met and married a french merchant together they moved to paris this is a little
01:34:14
foggy lorenzo might have been the like the man who put the money up for them to open a boutique
01:34:20
in paris or she just met him there i can't really tell but then uh the other the whipping guy the
01:34:27
other one uh phillipson gets hired at the boutique and then she's like what's up you're my lovers yes
01:34:33
and they're like is this included in the minimum wage that we're making yeah um so by uh by march
01:34:40
of 1934 the drought had already lasted for months and it's up to 120 degrees in the shade
01:34:46
yeah no very hot i am just that stupid fucking cunt in the heat i can't deal with anything i can't
01:34:53
deal with much over 85 no 87 yeah that's fine and then leave me alone um and of course all the food
01:35:02
growing on the in the gardens die and a ship isn't showing up like usually there's a ship every you
01:35:08
know month or two a ship hasn't come for months so there's no extra supplies and then one evening
01:35:14
dora hears that she's relaxing trying not to sweat her teeth out she hears a blood curdling scream
01:35:22
of a woman in the forest. Uh-oh. Two days later, Margaret and Lorenz show up to her house.
01:35:29
And this is according to her fucking story. This is according to Dora? Yeah. Okay.
01:35:33
So this is what she says happens. Lorenz and Margaret, so the fuckboy and the mom.
01:35:41
Normal lady. And the normal lady. They show up and they're acting all like fucking cagey
01:35:46
and like rehearsed and shit. Right? Okay. And they're like, hey, you know what? Guess what's so funny?
01:35:52
the Baroness showed up at our house and she was like, Hey, our friends just showed up on a yacht.
01:35:58
So me and Phillip's, the like current fuck boy, we're totally leaving the island to go to Tahiti for a bit.
01:36:04
See you later. Like, see, I wouldn't want to be a, oh, like they just fucking left.
01:36:09
Okay. They just left. So she divide up her stuff. Well, exactly. Oh, and she said the Baroness was like,
01:36:16
keep an eye on my shit or don't. Cause I might not be back. Goodbye. And so Lorenzo, Lorenzo's like, well, uh,
01:36:23
hey, uh, Dora, do you want to like buy this shit? Cause I need to get money to get the fuck off this island now.
01:36:29
Oh, Even though, like, maybe she'll come back or maybe she won't. Right. And Dora's like, we didn't see a fucking ship.
01:36:35
Like, you see a ship if it's coming in. Yes. We didn't see a ship. Yeah. So, Dora goes with them back to the Hacienda Paradiso.
01:36:45
Wait, did they actually build that place? Or build a place? They built a place, huts and things.
01:36:52
And one of the, like, scientists who showed up was like, it was fucking disgusting.
01:36:57
like the sanitation was terrible like it wasn't a hacienda paradisio okay at all that was just the
01:37:04
name yeah okay but so dora is super suspicious but she goes to the hacienda with them sees uh
01:37:12
a bunch of her stuff is gone because margaret took it so they like margaret has a really nice
01:37:16
beautiful um i guess they had like a tablecloth and shit and then dora goes into the bedroom
01:37:22
and like freak has chills down her spine when she sees on the nightstand uh the baroness's
01:37:29
prized possession sitting there on the nightstand that she never fucking left the house without guess what it is her whip no you're wrong sorry you would never gun no
01:37:41
how many guesses do i get one more it's not a weapon oh it's a book a tiara it's a book
01:37:46
the bible no you have two more guesses what book it is like think of a book that like in college
01:37:53
you were like this is the book and like i know this book this is everything it's not catch on
01:37:58
the rye because it's too that's not written for a while but it's like no it's the future copy of
01:38:05
the infinite jest um it's like it's just tell me i have no okay it's the picture of dorian gray
01:38:11
oh yeah interesting okay and that was her prized possession like that was her prized possession her
01:38:15
good luck charm she carried with her everywhere. It's like such a college girl thing to do. Like, oh my god, calm down, you know?
01:38:22
It's such a fake baroness thing to do. Exactly. And the camp is basically pillaged by the two families.
01:38:29
Like, they just take everything. So, shortly after Lorenz is like, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
01:38:36
So he hops in, like a Norwegian comes by from Santa Cruz. He hops his boat and laters the
01:38:41
fuck out of there. Okay. Sees that there's gonna be a big boat on this other island, so he
01:38:45
is trying to get this fisherman to take him to that other island. And the fisherman's like, well, no, because it's Friday the 13th,
01:38:53
and I refuse to fucking boat on Friday the 13th. But Lorenz offers him enough money that he says, okay.
01:39:00
Wow. And they motherfucking disappear. No. Yeah. They disappear. Just the boat is gone, and they're both gone?
01:39:06
Everyone's gone. Whoa. Let's not worry about him right now. Okay. Because maybe he killed the Baroness and her lover.
01:39:13
So, like, do we care what happens to him? No, not necessarily. But it's just I love a mystery.
01:39:18
And the mystery, too, is like who actually the Baroness and the stood are never seen or heard from again.
01:39:25
They don't show up in Tahiti. There's no boat that maybe came in Tahiti. Like who who killed them?
01:39:31
Yeah. Right. So personally, I think it's Mr. Whitmer and Lorenz. But Margaret knew what was going on or like, you know, she covered it up at the end.
01:39:42
She was in on it. In on it. Like, yeah. okay but who knows uh and also they have these trees there this wood there that you could burn
01:39:50
and it would burn so hot that it would burn even bone whoa yeah okay that's bad so um all right so
01:39:58
that happens and then like this is the fucking dismantling of the island this is when everything
01:40:02
falls apart at this point clearly then so dr uh fred there's like a pig and it's sick and he kills
01:40:12
the pig and then he feeds the pig to the chickens and the chickens all die oh no and they're like let's not get
01:40:18
rid of the chickens let's can the chicken because if you boil the chicken long enough
01:40:22
it'll kill whatever the fuck the botulism that's in there and it'll be fine we can eat it
01:40:26
it's fine and they even offer some to the Whitmers and they were like no thank you no way
01:40:30
but they but Dora is like no no it's fine cooks the chicken my burrow Elvis is being a very bad boy okay okay cooks the chicken and you're like wait they're vegetarian but all
01:40:48
the fucking plants had died so they have nothing really to eat but meat they have to eat it yeah
01:40:52
she cooks the chicken she feeds it to herself and dr fred and dr fred immediately becomes super sick
01:40:57
with botulism symptoms like paralysis and difficulty breathing oh no tongue gets all swollen and shit
01:41:04
she didn't dora didn't go to get margaret to help her until like he was very very ill she's had it
01:41:11
with him. She's fucking had it with him. She's like, okay, you're really sick. I'm going to get
01:41:16
you help. But just as a test, do you want to eat a little more chicken just to test it out? And then
01:41:21
she goes, look, I'm eating some too. And then she does the thing where you like, you turn your head
01:41:24
to the side and you pretend to put it in your face and you drop it behind your shoulder. She
01:41:28
steps behind a screen. Look, I'm eating chicken too. It's like that trick everyone's doing online
01:41:33
with the dog blanket when they like do the blanket and they drop the blanket and the dog like where the person go It like that but with chicken with botulism chicken Or maybe just like two fingers making a rabbit Also there that one That easier Let name tricks
01:41:49
So by the time Roger gets there, he can't even fucking speak. He's dying. His illness progresses.
01:41:55
It's getting worse and worse. Of course, in Dora's book, she writes about it. She's like, you know, we had this moment.
01:42:02
He looked at me with this beautiful intensity. and we and I read Nietzsche to him and he was like mark that passage that'll always remind me
01:42:10
you of me and all this like romantic shit. Margaret's like fuck that shit. I get there.
01:42:14
He can't fucking speak. He gets a pencil and starts writing some shit. And his final moments
01:42:22
and writes a note to Dora. It's so romantic. Are you ready for this? This is like his last words.
01:42:27
Okay. I curse you with my dying breath. can you even and she she probably opens her mouth and shows her him the lack of teeth oh yeah
01:42:42
oh yeah he's got the teeth now motherfucker like i know i'm laughing at people dying it's terrible
01:42:47
but well but this situation this is not random violence this is not someone plot this is they've
01:42:54
all chosen to put themselves in a situation that is insane yeah and it's like who do you think you
01:43:00
are that you're going to go to the Galapagos Islands and like have a happy normal life.
01:43:05
I'm just so grateful that to live in the time where the internet came into existence where
01:43:10
you we all know now better than to just yeah just don't move to an island. Like BuzzFeed will tell you the top 10 places to go in the world.
01:43:17
You don't need you don't need a number 11 doesn't matter. Never Galapagos. That's 15.
01:43:24
Men's. Minimums. So the body of. Oh. so shortly after he curses her with his dying breath shortly after he curses her with his
01:43:36
dying breath that probably smelled terrible because his fucking gums were rotting i bet
01:43:40
she'd already taken those teeth out it was all gums before she buried him i'm sure she took the
01:43:45
stainless steel teeth and we're like these are mine now mine the missing norwegian fishermen
01:43:49
and lorenz are found it turns out like they must have gotten into a storm and blown off course and
01:43:56
landed on this other island called marchina okay there are photos of their mummified bodies
01:44:04
washed up on the fucking shore no fucking sweet blonde kid who was just like all i want to do
01:44:10
is kill my fucking tormentor and get out of here like that's all he wanted but the lord says no
01:44:17
the lord was like no and we're taking this fucking innocent innocent norwegian fisherman
01:44:21
who just was trying to do somebody a favor just needed the money he had like kids and a wife and
01:44:26
shit it's so creepy it's like the boat is this tiny little wooden schooner and they're they're
01:44:31
mummified on the island they had some food but there was no water they died of thirst oh no yeah
01:44:37
um and shortly after dr fred is buried on the island dora layers the fuck out of there and
01:44:44
goes back to germany so everyone else you know dies departs or you know whatever the fuck bails
01:44:51
bales shit happens to them i can't tell what's true or not okay um but even the whitmers leave
01:44:58
too no the whitmers fucking stay and flourish on that island because it turns out they're dragons
01:45:06
they are vampires and they have all their teeth and then some they have seven sets of lizard teeth
01:45:14
exactly they they still populate the island whitmer people wow they built a hotel and shit
01:45:21
like just like she fucking wanted yes and like you know what that was a good idea yeah you know
01:45:27
what we're taking it and running with it margaret whitmer the fucking matriarch she passes away at age 95 in the year 2000 whoa on the fucking island whoa she stuck to her story
01:45:38
that the baroness and her lover had hopped a passing yacht even though they were never ever
01:45:43
seen again. Wow. And that's the fucking Galapagos affair. I'm glad I never saw that documentary because that
01:45:53
as a fresh your version is the best experience of all time. I am a documentary maker.
01:46:04
I mean that's you if you just told me a series of lies it couldn't have been crazier than what that story was.
01:46:11
How has this not been an episode of Drunk History? is this is a drunk history this is this is fully a drunk and cold cold brew coffee history
01:46:19
oh my god yeah like i had always like seen the photo and like known that there was this like
01:46:26
crazy story but there were so many names and i got confused and stopped paying attention yeah to
01:46:31
this story so many times so when i finally decided to do i was like this is gonna be great because
01:46:35
i'm gonna get my story straight this is a great fucking story to just yell at people when you're
01:46:38
at a party yeah thinking and you know have you ever heard this yeah because someone's gonna bring
01:46:43
it up and you're like no and you're gonna tell them all the crazy stories and shit you know
01:46:47
that's like the best oh that's so good also it is that was a time where people we shout on them a
01:46:54
lot but up until i think that was the end of it that adventuring you know what i mean people going
01:47:00
like i'm gonna go there and start all over whatever like people really did do that for a long time
01:47:05
Well, what's really cool. So the documentary is called the Galapagos affair. Satan came to Eden, which you're like, calm down. But that turns out that's what fucking Dora's book was called.
01:47:15
Dang. But they actually like they it really good It is really good They interview other families members who did go to the Galapagos to live and make life there So you kind of understand what motivated people So it a cool movie that tells that story and narrates their letters and shit
01:47:34
It's really good. Amazing. But, yeah. I curse you with my dying breath. What a dick.
01:47:43
Dang it. Can we please get that on a balloon? and i'm like a mylar balloon at the grocery store can we please get that with um
01:47:51
what you know those half heart necklaces yes that's great a greeting card anything
01:47:58
all we want is some fucking i curse you with my dying breath that is high level storytelling
01:48:06
that was amazing thank you oh uh what is your uh what do we call it fucking hooray the fucking
01:48:13
hooray well oh i do want to say uh this made me think of it's weird that i did this because uh
01:48:20
i'll do two i'm gonna do two quick ones okay because one is really fucking depressing okay
01:48:24
um listen i cannot well okay we all have to watch nanette i haven't finished it yet so i can't
01:48:32
plug it but we're getting there yes right uh this i cannot tell you how triggering this
01:48:39
this thing I'm about to fucking plug is. Okay. So don't watch it unless you have therapy planned the next day.
01:48:45
I almost called my therapist in the middle of it. Don't watch it alone. And don't watch it if you have a history.
01:48:51
Okay, do watch it, though. It's called The Tale. It's by documentary filmmaker Jennifer Fox.
01:48:58
It's one of the most insanely beautiful movies I've seen. I know what this is. You know what I'm talking about?
01:49:03
It stars What's-Her-Face. Is it Alice and Janney? No. Is it the other one? Yes. it's Laurie Metcalf?
01:49:11
No, close. It's, you know, she's so good. You know, hold on. Sarah Paulson? Stephen, please.
01:49:19
Laura Dern. Laura Dern. Shit. It stars Laura Dern. It's this woman, Jennifer Fox,
01:49:24
who's a documentary filmmaker. That's what she does. And then she decided to make a movie
01:49:30
about her experience as a 13-year-old being basically groomed and sexually molested
01:49:38
by someone she trusted and and as an adult suddenly realizing that the narrative she had in her head
01:49:45
of it which is that I had an affair with an older man yes not what she fucking thought it was yeah
01:49:50
and it's so well it's really really triggering and I normally wouldn't bring that up but it's
01:49:56
so well done and so important and hit me in so many fucking places of my own 13 year old issues
01:50:03
that it's really beautiful, but it is incredibly triggering. I would say watch it in pieces, but it is a really important movie.
01:50:11
I hadn't heard about it before this, so I just wanted to, I really do want people to watch it, and it's, I mean, it's really moving.
01:50:20
Wow. Yeah, I definitely heard about it, but that, there's also, then Hannah Gadsby's comedy special, Nenette,
01:50:31
that when I hear about those that seem like it's a heavy subject, or it's, you know, there's parts
01:50:37
that are really hard to listen to, or there's lots of crying. When I, you know, sit down at night,
01:50:44
these days, I feel so stressed about the reality of the world that I am definitely 100% in escape
01:50:50
mode when I watch stuff. So I very rarely want to go into that heavy stuff. But I've had a couple
01:50:57
people, especially about Nanette, be like, no, no, no, it's very important that you see it.
01:51:02
Yeah, it's like, stay off the internet for one day and watch this important thing that will
01:51:06
empower you. Because it really, you know, Vince was out of town when I watched this thing alone.
01:51:10
And at 13 years old, specifically, which is the same time period of this woman's life,
01:51:15
I thought it was just an adult. I thought I was making decisions on my own. I, you know,
01:51:20
made very poor decisions in my life. And then you come back and you have to wrap your head around
01:51:26
them and understand them but it's so beautifully done it kind of um every single woman you know
01:51:32
will relate to it in some way amazing and it's and laura dern is just such a treasure oh and then
01:51:37
fucking jason ritter yes who's like he's the best i don't want to see him this way yeah he plays a
01:51:45
creepy character in it but he apparently he like had to pause filming to cry sure and all these
01:51:52
other little things that you're like i don't want jason ritter to be like this because i love him
01:51:55
but it's almost makes him better because he then talks about it and they bring this important
01:51:58
subject up and it is important. Yeah. Especially if you're a parent to a young girl or, you know,
01:52:04
boy, it's important. Well, and when I read that he played that part, I thought that's such
01:52:08
brilliant casting because those are those wolf in sheep's clothing. They never seem like the kind
01:52:13
of person that would do that. And they're, they're, they're the ones that can be like,
01:52:17
I'll drive your kid home. No big deal. I mean, yeah. And then Ellen Bernstein plays the mother.
01:52:22
so it's just like burst in yeah yeah i'm gonna call her berenstein bear do you love how i just confidently say words like i don't
01:52:31
dude that is the theme of this show confidently failing it's just a really really i just i don't want it to go hidden because it's such a hard subject matter and
01:52:42
so hard to watch because it really is important good and uh it did make me understand myself more
01:52:48
good yeah but it but tail but if you have issues around it you be careful watching it right you know
01:52:54
okay cool yeah all right oh and also hashtag or uh epic lava flow has been putting me to sleep at night what that mean There an Instagram called it just called epic lava underscore And some dude who lives on fucking Hawaii randomly this is what I into lately is
01:53:14
just filming lava flows. And it's the most relaxing thing you've ever seen in your life.
01:53:19
Like up close lava bursts and lava flows. And it's just really cool. Because they had that, they had the major volcanic eruption where, did you see those,
01:53:27
like the video of the lava that's just coming down the street type of shit like close up of
01:53:32
of that which i know is horrible and it's like people's houses are being ruined and shit but
01:53:36
yes it is as but as a you know it's almost like um asmr for your eyeballs neat yeah yeah there you
01:53:43
go um god i guess this was very exciting on when i got home from vacation i did have a bunch of
01:53:50
stuff on my dvr that was waiting for me and i really i i probably have given this one before
01:53:56
because it is a British procedural. But it's the British, there's season, I believe it's season four of Endeavor.
01:54:06
And it is such a good British procedural. It takes place in the late 60s. I dig it.
01:54:13
And I believe it's in Oxford. And he is, it's, you know, later on, there was a very famous British series
01:54:21
called Inspector Morse. So this is him as a young man, how he started being a detective.
01:54:29
And the guy, I want to say Sean White, but that's the snowboarder. Oh, no, you're saying?
01:54:35
Sean Evans, sorry. His name is Sean Evans. And he is this British actor, and he's so good.
01:54:41
He's like this smart guy detective that listens to opera, and you're just like, oh, you know,
01:54:47
the guy that you would have a crush on in college. and it's just a really well put together beautifully shot show so that was waiting on my ddr and then
01:54:57
there's the new season of shetland which is another i believe that's um it's scottish procedural and
01:55:04
it's the the visuals talk about asmr for the eyes the i watch these shows and i'm usually asleep
01:55:11
like 20 minutes in because they take those long panning shots of like a land rover driving down
01:55:17
lush an empty road with moors on either side or whatever the moss everywhere so gorgeous and then
01:55:24
of course the sing-songy beautiful accents of our friends in the uk um so yeah i just had and then
01:55:31
i'll just i'll re-up on cb strike which is now the show i've already given this as a fucking array
01:55:36
but it's now the show i wait for i think that comes on either on friday nights or sunday nights
01:55:41
and i literally am waiting around for it because i love the lead actor i love the lead actress and
01:55:46
it's so well done um cb strike on oh the one that bb europe uh the uk stars i think it's stars okay
01:56:00
it doesn't matter all right um so yeah it's of course cinemax thanks steven cinemax when i grew
01:56:07
up was just the dirty channel skinemax well it's new so you know this isn't your father's dirty
01:56:13
dirty cable channel wrap your head around it uh yeah so just a lot of good tv i guess i'm so
01:56:18
vacation to brain to have it and then of course vacation um i love it the song by the go-go's
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all i ever wanted thanks for listening you guys guys this this has been this has been a real
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