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MFM Minisode 152

December 09, 2019 /

This episode of My Favorite Murder features stories about historical figures and personal experiences related to murder and crime. Hosts Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark read listener-submitted tales, including the story of Betty, the hangwoman of Roscommon, Ireland, and a babysitting scare involving a mysterious knock at the door.

The first story recounts the life of Betty Sir Grew, who became the only female executioner in Ireland after accidentally killing her son. After years of hardship, she murdered a man in her home, only to discover he was her son. She later hanged 25 criminals in exchange for her life.

Another listener shares a personal experience of ignoring a frantic knock at the door, believing it to be a murderer, only to find out it was police evacuating the area due to a gas leak. This leads to a discussion about the absurdity of the situation.

Additional stories include a Thanksgiving tale about a woman who killed her abusive husband and hid his body for 15 months, and a humorous account of a listener's twin sister misunderstanding the meaning of conjugal visits.

The episode combines dark humor with chilling narratives, showcasing the hosts' signature style of blending true crime with lighthearted commentary.

TLDR

Hosts Karen and Georgia share chilling listener stories about murder, including a hangwoman and a babysitting scare gone wrong.

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We're going to read you your shit through burps. That's right. You want to go first?
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Sure. Do you want me to? Yeah. Okay. The subject line is Irish hometown, our friendly local hang woman.
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Oh, dear. Dear Karen Georgia and team, I've been meaning to send you this Irish hometown story for a while,
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but since Karen showed such sympathy for the plight of Darkie Kelly's poor hangman in your recent brilliant Dublin show.
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They wrote Dublin. Thank you. Thank you. They wrote Dublin. It definitely was brilliant.
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Thanks so much for writing Dublin. live show I thought you'd both enjoy it now Betty Sir Grew
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lived in my mom's hometown in my mom's hometown of Ross Common Ross like Ross from Friends
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Common like Ubiquitous you know what don't be condescending I did it right in the second half of the 18th century
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she had been widowed young lost one child as a baby and she'd arrived in Ross Common
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with her surviving son Pa Rick But after years of enduring her cruelty, he ran away from home in 1775 at 16.
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Some versions of the story say he joined the British Army. Others say he went to America to find his fortune.
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At first, he sent letters and money. But over the years, those letters slowly stopped coming.
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And she was living in poverty, relying on the kindness of her neighbors for food and occasional lodgers for a few coins.
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One winter night in 1789, a man came knocking at her door, saying the local inn was full and asking if he could rent a room from her.
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As he paid her, he gave her extra money to go out and get food for both of them.
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She noticed his coin purse was full of gold. I guess greed or desperation got the better of her,
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because as he slept, she took the knife and stabbed the man repeatedly, killing him.
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But, all caps, as she rummaged through his coat looking for the bag of gold, she found a bundle of his documents in his pocket,
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and recognized the handwriting immediately. It was, you guessed it, her son. No.
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Betty ran out into the street crying and screaming that she had just murdered her son,
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and she was promptly arrested and taken to Roscommon Gale, which is the word for jail, where she was tried, found guilty, and sentenced to death.
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But when the day arrived, she and 25 other criminals were led out to be hanged in front of an angry crowd.
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News arrived that the hangman had fallen ill and couldn't perform the execution.
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The sheriff was worried that the crowd would riot if no executions took place. Oh, those angry fucking crowds.
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I mean. So when Betty volunteered to execute the others herself in exchange for her life, he agreed.
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No, that's not how it works. Betty hanged 25 men that day. Jesus Christ. Oh, Betty.
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And when the hanged man died a few days later, she was given her own private rooms within the jail and became the only female executioner in Ireland's history.
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Betty. She served as the jail's hangwoman until 1802, when her sentence was commuted by the sheriff of Dublin, and she was allowed to retire.
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But she stayed living in her rooms inside the jail, and it's said her walls were covered in charcoal drawings of all the people she'd executed over the years.
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She died in 1807 and was buried in the grounds of the jail in an unmarked grave.
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So that's the story of Lady Betty, our local hangwoman. Roscommon Gayle is still standing, now home to a shopping center and a cafe.
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There's before and after pictures that they sent. Oh my god. And when I'm back home visiting my mom, I often pass and think of Betty.
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Stay sexy and I guess if you can beat the hangman become the hangman Jack Wow Isn that incredible That was a crazy story That one way to get out of it I guess
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Yeah. Like, you know, sounds like Betty was a bit of a sociopath. This one's called SSDGM, but also Don't Get Blown Up.
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Great. Hi, Karen in Georgia. Like any practical murderino, I don't answer my door if I'm not expecting anyone.
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I'm not about to just let a murderer into my house, but that went a bit wrong for me today.
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This afternoon, someone was frantically knocking at my door and I assumed it was a murderer and I did not answer it.
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About half an hour later, I get a text from my friend asking if I'd been evacuated.
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I had no idea what he was talking about. He told me there had been a bad car accident down the road from me and they'd hit a gas line and police were evacuating the surrounding area.
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I'm pretty sure those were actually police officers knocking at my door trying to save my life and not a murderer trying to kill me.
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Right. Whoops. By the time they got outside to see what was going on, they had moved the police barricade up a few houses,
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so I guess I'm in the clear now? I'll let you know if anything explodes, though.
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I joked with a friend that it would be really funny if I got blown up because I was trying not to get murdered.
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She did not think this was funny. Yeah, it's not that funny. Stay sexy and don't get murdered, but also don't get blown up.
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Catherine. Hey, Catherine, I would invest in what they call a peephole so that you don't have to assume every single person
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knocking on your door is going to kill you. I'm so bummed. My old-timey door of my new house has one of those little tiny doors,
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so people will know if I'm looking through to them. Oh, that's right. I can't slam a tiny door in their face.
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You know, but you just have to get really self-confident about your decisions. And it's just like you open that door, you look them in the eye,
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and you're like, no, thank you. Yeah. Sorry, bye. I gave this girl money because of the oceans,
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because I thought it was my food getting delivered, and I answered the door, and it was just this really sweet punk girl,
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and she was doing door-to-door shit. for like OSHA or some shit. OSHA's a different thing.
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That's the stage union. Or that's job safety on site job safety. Job safety for dolphins.
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Gamer money because I was like, shit. Please help those. Oh, I just unfortunately now everything on Twitter is now.
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OK. Yeah. Let's not talk about depressing stuff. Another 11 year old in peril story.
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OK, great. Hello. Hello. After hearing the 11 year old babysitter story from this weekend's minisode, I knew I had to write in about the scariest moment in my babysitting career.
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I think I was older than 11 at the time. Sorry, but not by much. I used to babysit my three cousins throughout the summers.
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We usually just hung out, watched some movies, order a pizza, usual babysitter activities.
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One night there was a thunderstorm, and we were hanging out in the main TV room watching a movie.
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Suddenly someone started banging on the porch door. I looked up, and it was a man hunched over in a hood,
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banging on the door in the rain. Well, my murderino brain kicked into overdrive,
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and I yelled, get down, to the kids. Sorry. Get down. Get down. I'm 12. pull a gun from their holster, their back holster.
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Wait, when'd she get that? She yells, get down to the kids. I had us all hiding under the coffee table
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while I called my uncle freaking out. Can you imagine what that coffee table looks like?
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So 80s. It's just like this huge, it's like probably the perfect shield. Yes. It would, nothing would go through that thing.
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Impenetrable. Such impacted particle board. So she calls the uncle and he told me
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he was going to send the neighbor down to find out what was going on. By this point, the hooded figure
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had moved on to the side door, which was the main entrance for the house. And that's when I realized
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I hadn't locked it. I start freaking out even more. And all the kids are now crying and freaking out.
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And in that moment, the phone rang. It was my dad calling. What luck, I thought. He'll know how to
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help. Before I could even begin to explain to him what was happening, he said, can you come to the
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door? It's pouring out here. I brought you all ice cream. Oh, no. My amazing, thoughtful father
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had brought me and my cousin's ice cream, and I thought he was a murderer. He was, of course, completely drenched,
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and I thanked him and apologized profusely before I gave him an earful about banging on a door in a hood
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in the dark at a house where a young girl was babysitting. Love you all, stay sexy, and only open the door for ice cream.
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Goodbye. Okay, I'm not going to tell you the title of this one. Okay. Ahoy, ahoy, murderina.
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No, wait. Ahoy, ahoy, murder friends. I just went home for Thanksgiving and over dinner, my dad casually mentioned a woman he knew who had killed her husband.
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I do not recall how this came up. So, of course, I had to do the thing. Hold on.
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What? I need to know everything. So here's what happened. In the spring of 2012, Jackie Reed of Osborne, Idaho, about 20 miles from where I grew up, shot and killed her husband, Greg, in the back bedroom of their trailer home.
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Reportedly, he was an abusive asshole. Okay, fine. But she didn't report this to the police.
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Oh, no. She kept on collecting his Social Security checks and told anyone who had asked about him that he had moved to Seattle.
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Oh, no. As you do when you live in Idaho. You just pick up and move. And everyone's like, yeah, absolutely.
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Got it. Then, okay. Then here, okay, this is how she writes this. Then here is where it gets crazy.
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Oh, okay. In July of 2013, there was a special agent from the Social Security Administration, who knew that was a thing,
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who was looking into this guy's disappearance because, you know, someone was cashing his checks and he wasn't in Osborne or Seattle.
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Oh, wait, I get it. Sorry. And he wasn't in Osborne or Seattle. He interviewed Jackie Reed, who couldn't keep her story straight,
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so they got a warrant to search her home. And wouldn't you know it, in the back bedroom,
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there's the rotting corpse of Greg Reed. No. Who had just been hanging out in there for 15 fucking months.
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No. Jackie had just been dousing him with quicklime to keep the smell down. Good God.
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According to an article I found, Greg had weighed 300 pounds, but by the time his body was discovered, it only weighed 53 pounds.
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No, Jesus. Jackie had also been slowly digging a hole behind the house, presumably to bury him.
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Pick up the pace, Jackie. Why did it take her 15 months to dig the hole? Lazy. Procrastinator.
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Well, the ground is notoriously rocky here, and I guess you can't use a backhoe to dig a grave for your husband's secret corpse.
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Fair enough. Yeah, that's true. In 2015, Jackie was sentenced to 15 years for voluntary manslaughter, pleaded down from first degree murder, of course, of which she must serve at least seven years before she's eligible for parole.
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Best Thanksgiving ever. SSDGM, motherfuckers. Mel. Yes, that's a girl's name. That really built a great crescendo at the end.
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Wow. Yeah. Okay, so wrap it up. Here's my wrap it up. This is a subject line. I'm not going to say the whole thing, but it's my earliest memory.
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Ahoy hoy. Recently at a family get-together, my cousins and I were talking about the earliest memories we had.
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Most were family vacations or holidays, but mine is a little less fun, a little more murderino-y.
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I'm the oldest of my siblings, and when I was around three or four, my mom worked as a freelance copy editor
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and often stayed up late with giant manuscripts to get some extra hours in after her exhausting days raising,
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then three kids under four. Oh, my God. And it says eventually having four kids in five years.
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No, that's too much. Lady. Do the math. We can't. How are you doing it? I think after that, she'd just be like, bring it on.
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I'll handle any situation. I'll cater any bat mitzvah. Okay, I don't remember this part, but I guess I had been sick and was running a fever earlier in the day.
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The part I remember was walking down the hallway from my bedroom to our family living room.
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Usually it's one or the other, but she's combining both, or they're combining both.
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In my Barbie nightgown, which was drenched in sweat, I walked into the living room and stared at my mom, who hadn't noticed me yet, and yelled,
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I'm going to die. I don't remember anything past that, but apparently I dropped to the floor and had a seizure.
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Kids are great. Oh, my God. It turns out that this was the start of my seizure disorder, and my crazy high fever had caused the sweat and the seizure,
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and the deathy feeling probably came from the aura of the seizure, which I still get before an episode, or the fever, or both.
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Either way I sure I scared my mom half to death Just think of it No A four that like that straight out of the ring Totally A wet nightgown screaming I going to die and then dropping to the floor Oh my God
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Jesus. That's terrifying. In one of those manuscripts, there's just a red line that goes straight across.
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Okay. Either way, I'm sure I scared my mom half to death. And now that I have my own kids, I can't imagine how terrifying this would be.
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Really? Yeah, because also then your brain grows and kind of works out all the electrical issues.
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Oh, my brain is huge now. It's so big. Thank you. It's distracting. Okay, this one starts.
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Hi. Hi. When I was in law school, I was a student attorney working for the Innocence Project in Baltimore City.
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Thank you. Good job. My job was to visit prisons around Maryland and collect information and transcripts from inmates that could potentially be acquitted under a court of appealings rule.
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I should mention that all the inmates I dealt with were convicted of first degree murder prior to 1980.
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So most of them were just quiet, old gentlemen and sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.
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Can you fucking imagine? And how many were innocent? I don't want to sit in the corner and listen to all those conversations.
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My visits often involved meeting with dozens of inmates at each facility. I spent an entire year visiting all the prisons around Maryland and met with at least 100 convicted men and women.
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During my graduation party, I found out that my twin sister was telling all of our family and friends that I was going to the prisons for, quote, conjugal visits, sometimes 30 a day.
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When I asked her if she knew what that meant, she admitted that she didn't. And a look of shock and horror went across her face when I explained.
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She still won't admit to me how many people were told about my supposed extracurricular activities in prisons,
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but it still makes me cringe and laugh eight years later when I think about it. Oh, no, that's incorrect.
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I thought it was just a sister being mean to a sister. No, she thought conjugal visits is mean in meetings, sometimes up to 30 a day.
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People are just like, uh-huh. Oh, great. It probably didn't help that when I spoke about the inmates,
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I often cited how they were some of the most lovely humans I had ever met. And honestly, most of them were better jailhouse lawyers than I will ever be.
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I have a cushy job practicing real estate law now, but I will never forget the time I spent my hundreds of conjugal visits around the Maryland prison system, which ultimately helped acquit at least 14 innocent men.
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Amazing. Amazing. Shout out to my twin sister named Kara. But what we most exclusively address each other as Stephen and our sweet mother, BJ, who also got hooked on your podcast and may still believe I had conjugal visits when I was a student.
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Can't be sure. Thanks for all you do. Remember to stay sexy and avoid conjugal visits with murder convicts.
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Genevieve. Oh, my God. Hilarious. That is so fun. It's kind of like the grandmas who were told that LOL meant lots of love.
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So they'll be like on Facebook, there'd be death announcements and they'd be like thinking of you, LOL.
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Oh, my God. Have you heard of that? It's very similar and horrible. That's hilarious.
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Episode Highlights

  • The Story of Lady Betty
    A chilling tale of a woman who became Ireland's only female executioner after a tragic mistake.
    “Betty hanged 25 men that day.”
    @ 04m 30s
    December 09, 2019
  • Jackie Reed's Dark Secret
    A woman who killed her husband and kept his corpse hidden for 15 months.
    “In the back bedroom, there's the rotting corpse of Greg Reed.”
    @ 13m 31s
    December 09, 2019
  • WeatherTech Summer Adventures
    Keep your car clean during summer fun with WeatherTech's premium products.
    “If you're going all out this summer, you need WeatherTech.”
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    December 09, 2019
  • Stress-Free Vacation Planning
    Discover Cheap Caribbean's Budget Beach Finder for easy vacation planning.
    “Say goodbye to endless scrolling and tab hopping.”
    @ 20m 49s
    December 09, 2019
  • Personalized Shopping with Stitch Fix
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    “A personal stylist sends pieces that match your size, style, and budget.”
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Episode Quotes

  • Stay sexy and I guess if you can beat the hangman become the hangman.
    MFM Minisode 152
  • Best Thanksgiving ever.
    MFM Minisode 152
  • Stay sexy and take your Keppra, Madeline.
    MFM Minisode 152
  • Stay sexy and avoid conjugal visits with murder convicts.
    MFM Minisode 152
  • Vacation planning should feel like a breeze, not a deep dive.
    MFM Minisode 152
  • It's no risk, all style.
    MFM Minisode 152

Key Moments

  • Summer Vibes01:12
  • Hooded Figure08:25
  • Goodbye19:56
  • Cookie Offer19:56
  • Summer Adventures19:58
  • Vacation Planning20:35
  • Clothes Shopping Struggles20:54
  • Stitch Fix Introduction21:10

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