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Goodbye. What's up, Atlanta? This place is humongous. What'd you say? It's humongous.
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It's so loud. Oh, my God. It goes to the sky. It goes all the way to the sky up there.
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Oh, my, really? Is this open air? Fuck. Wow. It's funny. I was having lunch earlier, and these two sweet girls sent me a cocktail.
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over and I was like, thank you. I'll see you tonight. Are you going to be the drunk girls
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in the front? They're like, no, we're cheap. We bought tickets way up there. And now I get it. Represent. Yeah. There's no need to go broke for a live podcast. That's insane.
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Fucking live your life up there. Listen to other podcasts while you're there. get shit done
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catch up wow it's we're in Georgia and my name is Georgia you got it get it it's a southern hospitality
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I swear to god I mean this isn't we just got here so this is from last night in New Orleans
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but okay I'm developing a weird stage personality and she says stuff like that okay girl
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no but we got there it was night time they didn't have room service I ordered from a restaurant called Daisy Dukes
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God bless it just a small pair of jeans fried fried jeans side of okra And it's also like, this is what you're not going to be able to wear when you eat this fucking food.
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I saw that menu. Shit. When there's inside orders, when chili cheese fries is listed inside orders, you know you're in fire.
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Fucking treat. Do you want to? Are you getting inside fried cod? Well, get some fucking chili cheese fries inside.
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Treat yourself. So I went down to get it, and when I went back into the elevator, a guy walked into the elevator with me, and he was laughing,
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because he was walking like pig pen in this huge cloud of weed. And he gets in the elevator with me and goes, man, it smells like weed around here.
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Which, of course, made me laugh really hard. so then he saw that I wasn't a narc
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and and then he did one of my favorite checkouts of all time he, because he started from the back
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he goes, what's up girl? no face at all he didn't give a shit he didn't he didn't care about all this work
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that I do here's what he cared about, you laughed at his joke I laughed at his dumb fucking joke.
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And you have a butt. And that's it. He could easily assume I was high as well. Yeah.
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And he was like, I see that butt you got back there, girl. It was hilarious. So I called the police and I had him arrested on two counts.
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But how were the chili cheese fries? Oh, my God. There was a strange... Everything in New Orleans has a red shit sprinkled on it.
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and that's not for me. Do you know what I love about the South and places like this?
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Is that, because we're from Los Angeles, where everything is fucking gluten-free and vegan,
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and you have to ask, is this vegetarian? If you don't want it to be vegetarian, you have to ask
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and make sure there's fucking meat on it. I need gluten in mine please I need gluten and I need protein in animal form But here everything has meat even if it like I got cheese enchiladas at lunch covered in meat sauce
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Like, that was the best. Like a bolognese on top of some enchiladas? Chili con porno.
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It was like, you could just see a girl or a guy, you know, either one, in Los Angeles losing their shit.
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They didn't say on the menu that there's meat happening. I didn't realize I was going to be in a room with meat.
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Excuse me. This building is meat-free. It's my favorite. I love it. You know what?
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Now that I think about it, because I got collard greens in my room. Thank you. Yes, I should be applauded for that.
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Absolutely. I've earned it. And when it came, it honestly looked like a side of ham with some greens in it.
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It really did. I'm super good. I'm fucking into it, dude. So much. Ham hawks in there.
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When I was at lunch, speaking of lunch, this is a lunch podcast. This is a lunch podcast, if it's anything.
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There was a dude, we were at the Spins and I was sitting at the bar, and there was a couple over here that sat down,
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and they were from somewhere where houses are spread apart, and their ranch, I don't know.
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The country? Yeah. Okay. He, I mean, the look on his face when the woman serving him told that they didn't have, like, Bud Light, Miller Light, Coors Light, any fucking normal beer, silent.
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When she was like, did you want something? Like, he was so angry. Yes. It was pretty amazing.
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That might have been my dad. Because I swear to God, we've left restaurants if they don't have Budweiser.
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I swear to God. And then she was like, we have, he's like, give me a Corona. And she was like, okay, we have Corona on draft or we have Corona extra in the bottle.
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And he was so mad that he had to answer another fucking question. He literally, when she walked away, she was just like, I don't know, why do I have to answer 40 questions for a beer?
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It was my favorite thing ever. Was he bald with a mustache? I swear to God. My dad's here.
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Oh. Oh. Oh. Family. let's get into the family hour you guys stop talking about lunch
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and go to dinner brunch waffle house oh fuck you guys oh yeah this is how LA we are
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you go oh we can go there for brunch tomorrow and I'm like I don't think they do that
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this may have happened here so I'm probably telling you and we probably talked it on the podcast
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but it's my favorite story to the point where, if you've all heard it already, but there's only five people that have it,
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and I think it's worth telling. Did you hear the story about the guy that went to Waffle House one night,
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and when he got in there, everyone was asleep. Everyone that worked there was asleep.
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So he made his own breakfast. That's the America I want back. Now we go political.
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Hey. No. let's talk about our outfits great you leave you have to leave me yeah well i'm only wearing
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1970s and 80s dresses from now on because there's just so much elastic happening in this
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fucking way yes girl yes look at her man look at her yes spin it look at her manage that office
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at IBM girl. Yes. Get that phone tree together. Hey. Please hold. Sorry, I'm rolling calls.
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I can't talk right now. When I wear heels, I just feel like a little kid in my mom's heels
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and just want to do like... Yes. And then I got my never-ending story fucking pendant.
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So magical. How about you? Well... Turns out... No, no. Please. I hate unearned clapping.
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I have a... I was just kidding. I have a dress that I brought on this tour that worked out great on the last leg,
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the Phoenix Vegas leg. Oh, dudes, that was insane. But in between, I washed it. So...
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Last night, we were, like, standing on stage in New Orleans. and I was just like, this is shorter.
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Luckily, I had these insane quadruple-ply Spanx tights on. They were made of this.
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It was like wearing this tablecloth as tights. So nothing happened, but as we were getting ready,
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you know, merely 10 minutes ago, I was like, not putting that dress on again. I just, I can't.
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It's short enough so that I just kind of look like a toddler. that wandered on stage with makeup on.
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Talk about wearing your mom's outfit. Just like, look, I have a dress on. It's a romper.
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But look how I don't want these shoes on anymore now. Take them off. No. I feel fucking fancy.
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It's fine. I feel fancy. I do. You're going to keep them? Yeah. Okay. For now. What about at some point in the show,
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you're allowed to stop everything and say, it's time for me to take these shoes off.
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Yeah. And when you do, someone wins $10,000. Oh my God! I did that at a show before.
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I took my shoes off, and then halfway through, it felt really fucking weird and uncomfortable
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because I had bare feet on a stage and then I was like what other creeps here And this is wrong Google search Georgia Hartstark feet
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It's a thing. It is a thing. If I took my shoes off on stage, it would look like a buffalo.
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I think that's the most accurate. There's a hoofness to my feet. There's a winter untended.
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I'm always like, oh shit, I gotta bring these somewhere. I gotta get someone to do something.
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But I don't care. Stephen should do your new job. That's his new job. Nice one. Nice.
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Stephen, that's your new job. He's not here. He's probably listening at home. Oh.
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Oh. Stephen. He does nothing. my cats are not going to take care of themselves so many photos today we even
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steven and i decided what houses uh the cats belong to in the harry potter world
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sorry what's this again well he sent me a photo of the three cats and i and dottie had this look
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in her face and i was like she's totally a slytherin and he was like yeah and elvis is this
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and Mimi's the hat. And it's like, it's true. You know what I mean? Elvis is Gryffindor?
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Yeah. Yeah. Of course he's fucking Gryffindor. Mimi's Hufflepuff. Of course. Like, it's just so obvious
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when you know your pets and you're like, well, these are the houses they're in. Totally.
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The feeling I have right now is the feeling that probably most of the younger people
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in this audience have when I talk about, like, the Dukes of Hazzard. or something where you're just like, I don't really know what any of this is.
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You didn't read it to your niece? I read the books. She read those herself. She wrote them.
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She wrote, oh, I'm sorry. My niece is J.K. Rowling. I should have started with that.
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No, no, I mean, I read the books, but I don't remember the personal qualities that it takes.
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I know Slytherin's evil. Yeah. And Gryffindor's what you want. Not evil, I'm sorry.
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Devious. self-efficient blonde-haired slicked back. What the fuck? I can't remember the quiz.
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Sorry. Stephen's not here. We already told you that. We'll do that. Oh, did we tell you this is
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my favorite murder? That's what we missed. That's Karen Kilgariff. That's Georgia Hartstark.
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And we are in Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah. Man, you guys, you have a lot of murders. Choices.
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There's some cities we go to where we're like, I couldn't find anything. What the fuck?
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Nope, not here. No. No. It was like, we could have done a week-long run here. We're not.
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Do you want to sit down? Ooh, look at these. I know. What? Is this whole place futuristic?
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Is this the Starship Enterprise? Oh, my God. Actually, these chairs go with your dress really good.
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Do they? Oh, they do. I look like I'm from the 70s future. Right? Like when I touch this, boop, it like...
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Oh, are you? Oh, cool. Yeah. we've uh thank you we've lost all track of who goes when why uh we tried to make up systems
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that you don't decide we we try we try to figure it out we try to figure out what we should base it
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on if it's our experience if it's your listening experience none of it tracks like none of it
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adds up but we always yell at steven about it yeah it's always steven's fault and steven's like
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I don't know. I don't know the answer. You change the fucking rules every day. I'm trying to read 20,000 emails.
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And these cats are not going to Instagram themselves. I like in those Instagram stories,
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there's always Steve, he's always saying some one weird little thing in the background.
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You know what I mean? Elvis, Elvis, Elvis. It's like you're seeing a cat just sit there
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like lick its own hand and then you hear like, A cat lick its own hand. What if a cat just had a hand?
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One, two, three, four, five. Because I'm a cat. Here's my hand. I just talked into this bottle of water.
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You know what? I expected it to work. Did you? I really sold it. Yeah. guys it's great
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oh shit we should have brought our headset mics oh man I wonder if those are wireless
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like if he bought us the kind we could actually use in concert I don't think he did and can we tell you guys something
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he hasn't set them up yet I don't think they work they're not real I think they're candy
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I think he bought them we opened them, we loved them, we gave them to him and he returned them
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oh my god Steven! Steven! Yes! There is someone here that didn't want to come tonight
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but came anyway who has no fucking clue Hates our guts. What's happening? Why? Anyone gives a shit.
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Who the fuck is Steven? You there. Why are they so mean to him? I mean, you're being mean
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and you're just yelling, Steven, that's not a show. Is Steven a cat? You hired a cat
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to sit your other cat. Dude, the smartest cat. That cat. He can open a bag of cat food.
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He can pour it. It's like when we were like nine and we got hired to babysit a baby.
00:21:01
Yes. Because that's what happened in the 80s. So anyway, walk that half mile down to the Rutherford's house.
00:21:07
Yeah. And take care of an infant. An infant. We're going to go drink for nine hours.
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See you at Christmas. Okay. Yeah, shh. Someone real bossy down in the middle. Well, okay.
00:21:31
So in looking up these stories, and Stephen did send me, of course, like 20 insane choices where I was like, ooh, ugh, ugh.
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Every single thing I looked at. And then, out of the blue, my sister emailed me.
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No message, no even message in the subject line of the email. It was just this link.
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And then I clicked it open, and it was this article. And it was an article from Mysterious Universe.
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Yes. That's a good one. Yeah. So I was like, this is the shit, and it turned out it is.
00:22:04
So most of the information I'm about to read you is from this article from Mysterious Universe
00:22:08
that's written by Brett Swancer. and it is about the curse of Lake Lanier. Oh, shit!
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Is it, uh... Is the curse McMansions? Yes. It's the curse of living in a gorgeous, gorgeous lakeside community.
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Oh, is it the golf course haunted? Yeah. Is that what it is? It's when you are cursed of the curse of Lake Lanier, you have to golf for 90 years straight.
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Fuck, man. You just golf and golf. Golf and golf. It's so crazy. I'm into it. So Stephen's like, I spent fucking three hours finding murders for you.
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And you didn't use one again. That's right. And my sister cuts the line and is like, do this.
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I'm like, okay. Because she's my older sister and I'm forced to do everything she says.
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That's right. so i don't have to tell you guys but i do have to tell the girl from california please so
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just 45 minutes north i forgot a tissue oh do you does anyone have a tissue for georgia
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hopefully in the front row my god you're an angel baby i forgot mine oh i'll take both i'll take
00:23:30
Thank you guys so much. I just have to say that literally seven hands went up in the air.
00:23:38
Listen, I'm working on it, okay? It's just a hard show. Hey, you're not alone. I know, thank you. Clearly.
00:23:48
Okay. Okay. I guess I have to start again. 45 minutes, Nora. Okay. I'm here with you.
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Of Atlanta. Okay. Uh... is the jewel of North Georgia. Is that true? I don't... It said that on a website.
00:24:06
Everyone not from there is like, fuck, no. If you believe that Coors Light cans are jewels,
00:24:14
then yes. Right? Girl, I know lake life. I know that lake life. You got to be filled to the brim with that Coors Light.
00:24:27
Get out on your pontoon boat, do your thing. It's 38,000 acres of water for boating,
00:24:39
for swimming. Someone wrote drinking water. What? Makes it sound like you go there to just be like,
00:24:48
oh shit, thank God we're here. And then you go home. Yeah. It's drinking water. Ew.
00:24:57
No, no, no. Oh. You don't scoop it out right behind the guy that just fucking like swam through with zinc on his nose.
00:25:08
There's also hydroelectric power coming out of there. There's a big dam. Got it.
00:25:14
It's an exciting place. I don't know that much about it. I'm really trying to sell it as if I'm an expert.
00:25:18
Okay. And I am in the way that you are when you cut and paste things. Like for instance, it has 8 million visitors annually.
00:25:28
Wow. Yes. And it's also known to be the deadliest lake in Georgia. No way. Yes. Way.
00:25:37
Ooh, don't go there. Like it's a really easy solution. Now I read, so of course there's this amazing Mysterious Universe article,
00:25:49
and then there was lots every time that I Googled it. There's one article that I found that was so fucking funny.
00:25:56
I believe it may have been in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. But someone went up there to be like, you know, the curse of Lake Lanier.
00:26:06
And there's a woman who, oh, I thought you said something to me. It was my own voice.
00:26:13
Oh, shit, it's kicking in. It's the last show. Tonight's the last show. Every time we do a show, we put acid in one of the bottled waters.
00:26:22
Can you guys hear me talking? So the reporter talks to a lady who has a houseboat on the lake, and they're talking about everything, all of it.
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And she says, just because you buy a boat don't mean you get common sense with it.
00:26:44
Fucking truer words. Truer words. So part of the reason it's the deadliest lake in Georgia is because it's the one that's most visited and because they make these speedboats now.
00:27:00
So there's fucking people filled with keystone lights that are jamming out. And then there's, like, of course, you know, people trying to swim and families and all this stuff.
00:27:13
So it's a very bad combination. There was also in the comment section of something they were talking about.
00:27:19
Yeah, it's like if you drank a six-pack and then just went driving. That's why the numbers are so high comparatively to other lakes.
00:27:28
But also, it's not just that. Uh-oh. For this lake was not made by God. No? No. But by the will of man.
00:27:45
And so it is an unnatural lake in every way. God is pissed. He's like, I fucking told you how many lakes you could have.
00:27:54
I make the fucking lake. You don't get to just choose. I make the lake. Yes. You don't make the fucking lake.
00:28:00
Well, Georgia says, yes, we do. Because those little, what look like little islands are actually the peaks of the foothills that used to be in that area.
00:28:15
Oh, my God. That they flooded to make this lake. With our houses down there? Yeah, they still are.
00:28:22
That's my favorite thing in the fucking world. Right? Yes. There are underwater ghost towns at the bottom of Lake Lanier.
00:28:32
Right? Underwater houses. So your sinkholes are my underwater ghost towns. Is that true?
00:28:40
Like, I just want to start crying right now. And then swim through my tears to an underwater ghost town.
00:28:47
Okay, then maybe we should, can we go to the next slide just so Georgia can see?
00:28:52
Oh, God. Not that one. I want it. Now, I don't think this is from Lake Lanier. I just love it.
00:29:03
They were into Spanish style? It was, there's a Mayan temple down there. Wow, Georgia, I didn't know you guys were so progressive back then.
00:29:15
But I mean, this is the feeling you get, right? Definitely. I had it in there. I had it on my document for so long.
00:29:25
And I was like, God, I have to figure out what that fucking building is. And I would look it up and I would click on the picture to bring it to the website.
00:29:33
And then it would be like, sunken things from around the world. And I'd be like, no.
00:29:37
I think it might be in Mexico. I'm not sure. But anyhow. But picture that as a big red barn.
00:29:47
Right It more like that It was all farms They had to move 250 families they had to move 15 businesses and they were all evacuated but they left everything there So they didn evacuate it And then like now let tear all these things down
00:30:08
So they say if you were able to walk along the lake bottom and not kick up any silt.
00:30:14
Right. I don't think it's clear, but you would basically be walking through ghost town.
00:30:19
Dream. My dream. A dream of life. they didn't move the houses they didn't move any of the buildings
00:30:28
it's all intact they didn't move the 20 cemeteries that are down there oh no they didn't move
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the cemeteries they claim to have moved the bodies oh we've also been poltergeist
00:30:51
They only move the headstone. They only move the headstone. There hasn't been an underwater ghost town around here for 25 years.
00:30:59
Okay. 25 years is not that long ago. Yeah, I just realized that I've been saying 25 years,
00:31:07
and it's a short amount of time for the haunted miner to be referring to something.
00:31:14
I've got to kill that character off. No, please. Never. Okay, so here's why people, here's why there's a lot of legend and a lot of storytelling around this lake.
00:31:25
Because there are people who have almost drowned in the lake who talk about having felt unseen hands pulling them down under the water.
00:31:38
Locals talk of boats capsizing for no reason. Rogue waves kicking up out of nowhere.
00:31:43
Don't put your finger in my water. I'm trying to give you the sensation of here's you on a boat, I'm the rogue wave
00:31:51
no can I just tell you I've never seen Karen wash her hands before I'm a walker, I'm not a washer
00:32:03
okay, rogue waves rogue waves, kicking up out of nowhere strong swimmers drowning who were close to shore in calm conditions.
00:32:19
Don't like it. They don't talk about sobriety. Not to be that way about it. There's an element.
00:32:29
Often there are a couple elements left out of ghostly stories for fun. There was actually a really good...
00:32:37
There's an anecdote in one of these articles about a guy saying that he was sitting on the lake fishing and he was watching a duck
00:32:44
that was just kind of floating by him swimming. And all of a sudden, the duck went underwater.
00:32:48
Oh, no. He didn't stick his head underwater the way ducks do, like, oh, there's a thing I'm going to go dive under.
00:32:53
He just got pulled underwater and never came back up. Oh, duck haunting. That's the most haunted duck in the state of Georgia.
00:33:08
Okay, so near the Beaufort Dam, The water... Yeah, let's give the Beaufort Dam a hand.
00:33:17
It's the reason you have electricity, I am assuming. I read one, two articles. The Beaufort Dam, the water is over 200 feet deep.
00:33:28
The person, I think it was, I'll tell you, it was Dan Brown who was writing for the Gwinnett Citizen.
00:33:34
He made... Gwinnett? Gwinnett. What if there was like seven more options of what that pronunciation could be?
00:33:43
You got it on the first guess. Gwionet? No, I got it on the second guess. Well. So he said, just to make that clear, that's as deep as the Statue of Liberty is tall.
00:33:56
Whoa. Right? Fuck. I didn't realize 200 was that many. What? Does it ever scare you, the idea of swimming in a really deep place?
00:34:06
Yes. For some reason, even though it's like, you know what I mean? Well, and growing up, we went to a place called Blue Lake in California.
00:34:12
And up in Lake County, where I learned all my lake lessons. And comparatively, a tiny lake.
00:34:21
It was really small. And we used to, from the cabin that we used to rent, we would swim down to a place called the Narrows, which was the bar.
00:34:29
The only thing there was a bar at the end of the lake. But that was like a crazy swimmer.
00:34:33
You're like, someone would row in a boat next to you, and you just see how long you could swim, basically.
00:34:37
That sounds chill. But, right? Yeah. You can only play Clue so many times before you're like, okay, let's swim the entire lake.
00:34:46
But a couple times while I was swimming, doing that, you just get this weird feeling, right?
00:34:50
Yeah. Okay, so now cut to, that's like when I was a teenager. Now, cut to when I first moved to L.A., I was reading a book called Mysterious California.
00:34:57
Ew. Self-published. and so they list all the places that are like weird or haunted in California
00:35:06
and as I'm reading flip to it says Blue Lake, California. I'm like what the fuck?
00:35:11
Okay, it has a Loch Ness Monster in it. What? That the entire town was, they were down where the Narrows Bar is.
00:35:23
The entire town, which was like 75 people, were there for 4th of July and they had put fireworks out onto a little float
00:35:31
and had it a little bit offshore. And as they were there watching the fireworks go off,
00:35:36
a large sea serpent brought its head up and looked at everyone on the shore and swam away.
00:35:44
He fucking went like this. He was like, get out of my lake. Everyone off. They were like, keep it down.
00:35:52
My serpent kids are sleeping. But they said there parts of Blue Lake that can be measured and that that where I got my theory of underground lakes connecting and holding brontosauri
00:36:08
You're saying that as if it's like, you know this thing that's insane that I believe in.
00:36:12
I wrote my thesis a couple years ago about how all lakes are connected underground and hold dinosaurs.
00:36:20
So what, if it's not true? I also would like to remind you there might be a couple people in this audience right now
00:36:27
who are going insane because there was a movie in 1999 starring Annette Bening and Robert Downey Jr.
00:36:33
called In Dreams. Do you remember it? And it was about Annette Bening was psychic and she was psychically
00:36:39
connecting to a serial killer and also having visions of a sunken underground town and it was because
00:36:47
the things were happening in a sunken underground town. Got it. I saw it in 1999.
00:36:54
I was on a lot of drugs. But I highly recommended it so bad. And I think also Robert Downey Jr. was also on drugs at the time.
00:37:04
Oh, right. Check it out. Sorry. I should have taken that part off of this page. It's unnecessary.
00:37:14
A thing that is down there for real, though, can we skip to the next one, is the Looper Speedway.
00:37:20
So there's an entire racetrack that was very popular here in the 40s, I guess. And it's completely submerged, but there was a really bad drought in 2007, I think.
00:37:39
And the water came down and exposed the fucking looper speedway. Wow. Isn't that crazy?
00:37:46
Yeah. And you know all your favorites used to race on the Looper Speedway. Eddie Samples and Chester Barron out of Cornelia.
00:37:55
That one is my favorite. Gober Saseby. Oh, Gober. Or Goober. There's not two O's.
00:38:01
Goober's better, but it's spelled Gober. Well, Saseby no matter what. Right? That's golden.
00:38:08
And there's also a racer named, a woman named Sarah Christian who actually used to win at that race track.
00:38:13
Oh, I guess she did. Right? That's a fun, feminist moment. There also are enormous catfish in this lake.
00:38:27
Now, most lakes have stories of like, we had the biggest catfish, everyone's freaking out.
00:38:32
Here's the story for Lake Lanier. There's a chicken truck, a truck that's delivering live chickens.
00:38:41
It goes off the road and into the lake. Oh, no. and you're free right when the divers go down to to see if there's i don't know any survivors or
00:38:52
check out the wreckage or whatever they see the story goes that they see catfish the size of 12
00:39:00
year old boys in a feeding frenzy swallowing chickens what the fuck those poor chickens are
00:39:07
like we're ducks now yay and then it's like catfish your feed baby shit man i love that
00:39:14
there was also a kind of similar story of divers that had to go down and inspect the dam
00:39:20
and they when they got down there they saw catfish the size of volkswagons is what they said what
00:39:26
and both of those stories ended in the diver who was telling a story going and i said i would never
00:39:31
go into that lake again or i'm like this is the same story with different nouns but still yeah page nine okay so one of the big legends and ghost stories about lake lanier is the
00:39:48
lady of the lake so in uh and this is this i'm just reading you from a mysterious universe because
00:39:54
uh he did it he did it right um so in april of 1958 a young woman who worked at riverside military
00:40:01
Academy. Her name was Delia Parker Young. And she and her friend Susie Roberts are going to go out
00:40:07
on the town in Susie's 1954 Ford. And they never come back. So when they investigate it, they
00:40:15
discover that Delia and Susie had visited a gas station that night and left without paying.
00:40:23
Ladies. I mean, it's just a thing girls love to do. The only clue about where they were was a set of skid marks across the road
00:40:37
that seemed to suggest that the car had skidded off Linear Bridge and into the lake below,
00:40:42
but the divers who were brought in to search for them couldn't find the car because it's bad visibility, water's murky,
00:40:48
and there's tons and tons of sheared-off trees that are on the bottom of the lake.
00:40:55
And the catfish. and the catfish who stand guard over anything that falls into the lake.
00:41:03
Got it. And they hide it with their arm like this. I haven't seen anything. Probably, maybe over there.
00:41:15
Chicken bones. So for 18 months, they couldn't find the women or the car in the lake.
00:41:23
and then a fisherman named C.A. Simpson, he's just fishing one day and the body just rises to the top of the water.
00:41:34
Oh, that's not cool. It is not cool. So it was at the body of a young woman and she was missing two toes from the left foot
00:41:42
and both hands. It was never ascertained why the body was missing hands or toes or what the cause of death was
00:41:50
and there was no way to identify her. So she was buried in an unmarked grave in the Alta Vista Cemetery And it was not the fucking catfish Shut up It probably was the catfish
00:42:07
She's on your side, but she'll never let you know. Damn it. Certainly don't want you telling me about my own fucking story that somebody else is.
00:42:16
Okay. The body of Susie Roberts and her car are missing despite repeated searches until November of 1990.
00:42:29
Yes. They're expanding Linear Bridge, and the construction crews were dredging the bottom of the lake
00:42:36
so they could put in the pillars for the bridge, and they uncover a rusted-out hulk of a 1954 Ford.
00:42:42
Inside are the remains of a human body. Oh, man. Like, not favorite. You know what I mean?
00:42:49
Right. We use that word very loosely on this podcast. Oh, I love those stories so much.
00:42:56
They break my heart. Why? Because it was gone for years and years? So long. Yeah.
00:43:01
Okay, go on. So the body was decomposed to the point of being unidentifiable, but there were belongings, a purse, rings, and a watch,
00:43:12
so it was conclusively proven to be Susie Roberts. So in the light of this discovery, they realize the other body must have been Delia Parker Young, and they end up burying them side by side and changing her headstone so it's not unidentified.
00:43:26
So these deaths are what spawned the biggest legend of Lake Lanier, the Lady of the Lake.
00:43:33
So people say that they have seen a ghostly young woman dressed in a blue dress, missing her hands, walking up and down the length of Lanier Bridge.
00:43:43
can you imagine? you're just driving along playing Tom Petty's American Girl that's how this scene always starts
00:43:54
you shouldn't walk it holy she's see through she's see through the ghost wears a blue dress
00:44:12
Delia Parker Young was wearing a blue dress the night that she disappeared. Oh, no.
00:44:18
And the wandering lady has no hands. This one's creepier and worse, because it's real.
00:44:27
That's over. Put it out of your mind. Now we're doing this. Please. Please keep up, balcony.
00:44:36
Oh, they're here. It's fine. Okay. So this is the story of the death of Kelly Nash.
00:44:45
So on January 5, 2015, this just happened, 25-year-old Buford man Kelly Nash went missing from his home.
00:44:52
He had woken up in the middle of the night, like at 4 in the morning. He said to his girlfriend, I feel really sick.
00:44:56
I think I have to go to the doctor. Then they both went back to sleep. And when his girlfriend woke up at 7.30 in the morning, Kelly wasn't there.
00:45:04
And he hadn't taken his wallet, his ID, or his keys. So when he hadn't come back by that night, his girlfriend called the police,
00:45:14
and they discovered that a 9mm pistol was missing from the house. But nothing else was out of place, and nothing else was missing.
00:45:21
And there was a massive search launched, and friends, family, the police, they had cadaver dogs, they searched everywhere.
00:45:28
There was a $50,000 reward for him. There was no trace of his whereabouts anywhere.
00:45:33
and then a month later, his decomposed body was found by a fisherman. Please don't let it be C.A. Simpson.
00:45:41
God, damn it. It's like he had finally gone back out on the lake. Yeah. After 40 years of like, I can't.
00:45:52
Okay, this is what's super creepy though. Kelly Nash was found wearing his pajama pants
00:46:00
and the t-shirt that he wore to bed that night. and he had a single gunshot wound in his head,
00:46:06
but there was no other trauma on the body, no sign of any kind of fight or anything at all,
00:46:12
and the crime was never solved, and no one could figure out why he would get up in the middle of the night,
00:46:18
how he ended up there, whether it was suicide or if it was foul play. Scary. Yeah.
00:46:24
And then this is the last one, and it is another unsolved case, and it's Hannah True Love's murderer.
00:46:31
So that's the way to heckle is to apologize immediately afterwards. She yelled, go, bitch.
00:46:52
Sorry. we'll talk about it later. In August of 2012, a man walking through the woods
00:47:08
near Lanier Lake Club Apartments found the body of 16-year-old Hannah Trulog, who was stabbed to death
00:47:14
only hundreds of yards from her home. Her mother reported her missing the night before
00:47:18
when she didn't come back from her friend's house. And the police interviewed everybody,
00:47:22
her friends, everybody that lived in the apartment complex, and no one had seen anything.
00:47:26
The only lead that they got was there was a man in a silver four-door car that had been seen around the apartment complex
00:47:34
around the time that Hannah disappeared. And in the days before her death, she had been tweeting things.
00:47:40
She tweeted that she thought she had a stalker. She tweeted that she had to get out of this apartment complex.
00:47:45
And then she tweeted, so scared. The police say that when they looked into those tweets,
00:47:51
asked her friends and family about them, they say that it turned out to just be teenage drama stuff.
00:47:58
Ha-ah. Oh. I mean, not that I, the policeman in this article that I read, there was a couple who's so dedicated to finding out who killed her.
00:48:10
He keeps a PlayStation on his desk because that was the way that she communicated.
00:48:18
And when I read that, the first, of course, reaction is like, no, it is not fucking drama.
00:48:22
And if somebody tweets that they think they have a stalker, there's a reason for that.
00:48:26
but also you know you have to give people the benefit of the doubt if they're professionals
00:48:30
and they look into something hopefully but her father said uh that she made no mention of being
00:48:36
under duress and didn't seem any different in the days before her death but she lived with her
00:48:41
mother at those at that apartment complex so i maybe he maybe he didn't know her day-to-day
00:48:46
right as well so the case is still open the fifth anniversary of her murder the police uh which was
00:48:52
last year, last summer in August, the police once again renewed the search, told everybody, please,
00:49:00
because they were saying enough time has passed now where people who may have been covering for someone at the time
00:49:06
or knew something that they thought they couldn't say, you could have had a falling out with that person.
00:49:11
There's all these things. If you know anything at all, there's reward money, and they want any information that they can.
00:49:18
So they're still looking for it, and they especially want to know if anyone knows anything about the man in the silver four-door car.
00:49:26
Oh, my God, scary. And that is the curse and the scariness of Lake Lanier. Oh, my God.
00:49:34
Yeah. We're never going there. Sorry. I booked a trip for us. We're staying at an Airbnb.
00:49:47
It's underwater. it's quaint as fuck wow that's terrifying i know it's crazy places are haunted and i hate it
00:49:57
okay also wear a life jacket when you go boating i know it's nerdy but jesus christ
00:50:02
yeah i read so many terrible like deaths and children and you know it's like it's like drunk
00:50:09
people and families fucking everybody colliding verging in the worst way yeah no stay home everyone
00:50:17
Again, I have to tell people to stop doing outdoor activities. Indoor. Indoor. It's the best.
00:50:26
It's the safest place you can be. Oh my God, tidal wave. Wouldn't that be fun? Okay.
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00:52:26
Okay. and it takes place in a place where I know there was a murderino meet up today
00:52:35
a big one, Macon, Georgia oh we saw the photos of the cupcakes they looked fucking delicious
00:52:42
your baseball shirts, I hope you brought us one great job everybody there you go
00:52:47
only like five of them came, the rest are just so drunk you go for me and yell really loud
00:52:55
Did you see there was a car full of murderinas on their way here and they got in a hit and run car accident?
00:53:01
What? Are they here? They're fine. They're fine. They're fine. They're just like, they're fine.
00:53:06
They're fine. Yay. So you just hit that car and fucking drove away? It's awful. Everyone was, I was laughing about it, not realizing that people were like, because I know they're fine.
00:53:20
And I was like, oh my God. No, they're fine. I think. There they are. No, they're here.
00:53:25
Yeah, they're here. They were sure if they could make it. Would they all have neck braces on?
00:53:29
Yay! True crime is the best. All right, Macon, Georgia. It's about 85. Okay, well, let me tell you.
00:53:38
This is the story of Anjette Lyles. Murderous. A murderous. Okay, so Macon, Georgia is about 85 miles south of Atlanta.
00:53:46
Great. Oh, other direction. Is it the jewel of the south? It's the heart of Georgia.
00:53:54
Oh Girl You got the jewels I got the heart Yeah And together there a heart in jewels It I don know
00:54:05
What, yeah, I'm never going to be able to. What's her name? The one that makes that shitty necklace every year at Christmas?
00:54:12
Jacqueline, whatever. This is my heart. My heart. Just one of you. Just one. Just one.
00:54:18
Just one person say it. Jane Seymour. Jane Seymour. Somebody is from the theater over here.
00:54:25
James Seymour. So, all right. And Jet Donovan. This table is something else. They got this off a school bus.
00:54:42
We just need it for one night. Steven, pick the fucking table down there. Tighten the shit down, Steven.
00:54:48
Can you please? So in 1925, she's born reasonably well off. in Macon. I think if I were
00:54:57
from Georgia, I would say it better. I think you're supposed to be more like chill Macon.
00:55:02
You know what I mean? I watched an episode of City Confidential about it, and you know,
00:55:05
he just sounds drunk as fuck. That guy is Paul Winfield. He's so drunk. He's so in the town of Macon.
00:55:13
Well, you are the steamy nuts. We'll come a quiet day. You're like, sir, get a cup of coffee
00:55:21
before you record this. Legendary. actor. Oh, Little Richard is from Macon, Georgia. Oh, hell yeah. A lot of incredible musicians are
00:55:32
from there. Anyways, 1925, reasonably well off. She's well-educated, well-liked, but she has a
00:55:38
reputation as getting what she wants through charm and manipulation. We're like, what is the problem?
00:55:43
Why is this a problem? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Get it, girl. Get it. But she's terrible.
00:55:48
Okay. As you'll soon find out. In 1947, she marries a man named Ben Lyles. He had fought in the army during World War II, and his family owns a family restaurant called Lyles, and so she goes to work at the family restaurant, Anjet.
00:56:08
She turns out to have a real talent in the business. The clientele love her because she's super social and fun.
00:56:14
Everyone adores her. They have two daughters. Marsha, born in 1948. Carla, born in 1951.
00:56:21
So it turns out, so professional life going awesome. She fucking loves working at this diner.
00:56:26
Oh, we have a photo of her. Can we see the first photo of Ann Jet? Nope. Is that your lady?
00:56:32
She also died in the lake. We didn't have time. Sorry. Oh, I forget. we get stuck into the border.
00:56:39
Sorry. Let's see the next one. This next one is of Hannah, true love, so it's going to be sad.
00:56:43
Okay, we're going to go back for a minute. That's Hannah. Oh, cutie. Okay, then the next one
00:56:49
is of a murderous woman. There she is. Oh. Hey, good eyebrows. Good eyebrows for the 90s.
00:57:00
Okay, look at that fucking hair. That's a strong lip. That's a strong lip. What if,
00:57:05
okay. Wait, she's bad? Yeah, we don't like her. Okay, okay, okay. All right. But I do, though.
00:57:13
So home life's not going great. Ben had a hard time in the war. He had picked up a throat infection that turned into rheumatic fever, as it did back then.
00:57:22
It was just like, oh, you have a little thing? You're fucked. Dying. Dying. Dying.
00:57:28
So it left him unable to work. He was in a lot of pain. He had a veteran's pension, but he also was really irritable and drank a lot.
00:57:37
and he gambled. So he got so many debts that he decided to sell the family restaurant in 1951
00:57:44
out of fucking the blue. Like, didn't tell anyone, including NJET. Sold it for $2,500.
00:57:52
$2,500? Which was, like, not a lot even then. And she was like, fuck this shit. Still on her side.
00:58:02
so she's fucking pissed off they argue all the time and so in December of 1951 Ben gets super fucking ill
00:58:14
the doctors don't know what's wrong with him they can't figure it out it wasn't the rheumatic fever
00:58:18
and they weren't sure what was wrong with him he had nosebleeds and convulsions he had to be hospitalized
00:58:23
he goes into a coma the doctors think it's encephalitis but it's too late for any treatment
00:58:30
he dies on January 25, 1951. He's out of the picture. That's how... Have you ever said that before?
00:58:44
Never. Never, ever. In my life. Same time. Don't end the word picture. Oh my God, he's out of the picture.
00:59:00
So, with Ben's death, Angette. She's forced to move out of her house that they lived in back in her home with her parents,
00:59:06
with her two daughters. She gets a job working at a new restaurant. She fucking works her ass off for years and saves every penny.
00:59:13
So finally, in April 1955, she has enough money to buy back Le Restaurant. Wow. It's not French.
00:59:20
Yes. Don't know why I said that either. It's Lyle's Diner. Yeah. But she's like, fuck this shit.
00:59:26
I'm changing the name to Angette's. That's right. So far, we like her. right? Sure.
00:59:34
Okay, so you know how you sold it for $2,500? She bought it for $12,000. So she changes the name to Ann Jets,
00:59:41
and it quickly becomes one of the most popular lunch spots in Macon. The food is typical Southern fare,
00:59:46
but people love her friendliness and outgoing personality. And let's see here. Da-da-da-da-da.
00:59:53
Okay so she she would it was said that she was a headstrong woman who would stretch the boundaries of acceptable behavior in the small southern town Yes
01:00:06
And that meant she would pull her skirt up slightly? Right. Well, she drove flashy cars,
01:00:12
dressed in the newest styles, and she was flirtatious. Killer! And was rumored to be hooking up with dudes in the community,
01:00:25
but there's no evidence of that. So soon her restaurant's fucking jumping. She hires her mother-in-law, Ben's mom,
01:00:32
Julia to work in the restaurant with her. And there's an airport nearby, and so the restaurant becomes popular with pilots,
01:00:39
and she meets one of them named Joe Gabbert. Everyone calls him buddy. They hit it off.
01:00:45
They start dating, and in June of 1955, they go off on a holiday, and then they come back,
01:00:50
and they're like, guess what? We got married. So she's got another husband. Good for her. Yes.
01:00:57
She loves marriage up there. Her new marriage seems super happy. Lots of gossip.
01:01:11
Then everyone's also like, she's kind of into some weird magic-y, voodoo-y things maybe.
01:01:18
I love her. when is the other shoe gonna drop oh wait i forgot to get a story that had murder in it no
01:01:28
no you're just reading me the script of practical magic you're just like oh that's weird even what the fuck she looks exactly like sandra bullock
01:01:39
okay so she's uh so so she would make her friends and relatives come with her to fortune tellers
01:01:49
at fairs and would often, her staff said that she would be in the back of the restaurant lighting colored
01:01:55
candles and whispering to them when she thought no one was around. Can you imagine
01:01:59
walking in the candle? Isn't that what a lot of people do in church though? Like what's
01:02:09
the fucking problem? Sorry. Just make those candles white and that's Catholic church for you.
01:02:19
Oh, we have a photo of Ann Jet's restaurant. There's another photo of Ann Jet's restaurant.
01:02:28
We can just hang out. Yeah, we'll see it. We'll see it. They're just accessing the file.
01:02:36
Here we go. Here we are. Look at it. Cute, cute, cute. Isn't it cute? I do love hanging out in diners.
01:02:43
I mean, like, it would be super fun to own a diner. Yeah, I do too. In October 1955, Buddy, her husband, her new husband, goes in the hospital for a minor operation on his wrist.
01:02:54
And when he returns home, he develops a rash and fever. Hmm. Fever gets worse. The rash spreads all over his body.
01:03:02
He's back in the hospital. Doctors again. Don't know what the fuck is wrong with him.
01:03:05
We all know what the fuck is wrong with him, right? It's whisper candles. He's dying of whisper candles.
01:03:12
He fucking dies on December 2nd, leaving Anjette a widow again. Second husband down.
01:03:20
Doctors wanted to do an autopsy, but Anjette refuses to grant permission, saying that Buddy wouldn't have wanted one.
01:03:27
Which, like, fair enough, I wouldn't either. She's like, it's against my whispering religion.
01:03:32
Within a few months, she had legally changed her name back to Lyles and started dating another pilot
01:03:39
and had collected Buddy's pretty hefty life insurance policy that when it paid out she bought a house for herself and her daughters
01:03:48
and a fancy new car. And, of course, everyone in Macon was like, oh, something's up with this crazy chick.
01:03:54
They all, you know, whispered. Tons of whispering in Macon. But apparently she didn't care, which is, like, good for her.
01:04:03
Sociopaths don't care that much. Right. That's right. So then, so Julia Lyles, the mother-in-law, moves into the house as well to take care of the daughters while Ann Jett's at work.
01:04:15
But the two women didn't really like each other that much, you know. Uh-oh. Mm-hmm.
01:04:20
Oh, my God. 1957, Julia becomes ill. Let's see. Okay. But then she began vomiting blood.
01:04:27
Mm-hmm. And had to be hospitalized. Ann Jett, though, is a frequent visitor. everyone like praises her because she just like takes is with her at the hospital all the time
01:04:37
brings her food from the restaurant all this stuff um what just oh just vats of rat poison with
01:04:46
melted cheese on top then uh julia die is on september 29th 1957 fucking that's three people
01:04:56
That's three. Shortly after Julia's death, Anget is like, oh, by the way, here's Julia's will.
01:05:03
Oh. That she had always refused to make, and I convinced her to do one. Yeah. Here it is.
01:05:10
And I keep it in my low garter and pull it all the way out. You know. So it left a third of her estate to her daughter, Julia's daughter, other son.
01:05:23
What? And then a third to Anjette and the reigning third to the granddaughters. So that's like two-thirds to Anjette.
01:05:34
Let's add that math up right now. It fits. And another third. Timmy. Timmy. So friends have started, okay, here's the way it gets a bummer and you'll hate her.
01:05:47
Okay. So friends start noticing that Anjette is being aggressive towards her nine-year-old daughter, Marsha.
01:05:51
Uh-oh. see I was trying I was wondering because I was like are there are there these black widow women who are like weird poisoners who can raise children normally but then kill adults It didn seem to track but that what I was hoping for in my mind
01:06:08
Yeah, don't. Sorry to let you down. I'm going to let go of that idea. She called her daughter, Marsha, a Lyle's looking son of a bitch.
01:06:16
Her own fucking daughter in front of people. Lyle's looking like you look like your father?
01:06:23
Yeah. I know. I know. Fuck. So in March 1958, Marsha becomes sick with a cough and complains of a headache.
01:06:33
And Jet gives her the traditional country remedy for a fussy child, which sounds like...
01:06:38
Poison. A spoonful of sugar with whiskey poured over it, which is like, sign me up.
01:06:48
Everyone here is like, my mom wasn't a bad person. This is the one. I wish my mom had given me that.
01:06:57
Do I? No. But it makes Marsha vomit, and a few days later, she's hospitalized. Anjette brought her fruit drinks and tea, but they only seem to make her worse.
01:07:11
And it was around now that people are getting very suspicious of Anjette Lyles. 4N.
01:07:17
Uh-huh. Okay. After a couple weeks, Anjette, while her daughter is in the hospital,
01:07:22
begins making funeral rations for her. While she's still alive. Somebody should have flagged that one.
01:07:30
She's horrible. And she takes flowers from the room and is like, oh, we'll use these for the funeral.
01:07:37
No, not out loud. Yeah. No. Yeah. Okay. Is there like a gate check at a funeral home
01:07:48
where they're like, so they'll have the body shipped over tomorrow? No, no, no. not dead yet, but still, I like the silver casket.
01:07:58
Like, did they know to call the police on that? Or did they? No. Fuck! And also, she didn't know to not say it?
01:08:06
I don't know. She'd gotten away with it three other times. It's really horrible.
01:08:13
It's crazy. Nine-year-old Marcia dies on the 5th of April. Fuck! I know. She's autopsied, though,
01:08:19
and the coroner couldn't find any obvious signs for her kidneys failing, But a few days later, he receives an anonymous letter, which later turns out to be from someone who worked at the restaurant.
01:08:29
And she had been speaking to Anget's. So she said she had spoke this person who worked the restaurant and spoke to Anget's maid and maid was like, gosh, we keep running out of ant poison.
01:08:40
No, fuck. Fuck. Just over coffee. What are you running out of? saying that it was to deal with the infestation at the restaurant,
01:08:57
but the employee's like, there's no fucking rat infestation. Yeah, you get shut down for that shit.
01:09:01
Well, not then. Probably, right? That was back when it was supported. It's like, every restaurant has a couple of rats.
01:09:09
Come on, it's good for you. It's protein. A lot of that kind of stuff. The coroner sends a bottle of poison
01:09:15
along with samples of Marsh's hair and kidneys to the state lab for investigation
01:09:19
and gives Ann Jet a fucking jingle on the phone. Or is it like this back then? No, no, no, no.
01:09:25
No, I think we're in the 50s, aren't we? We're doing this rotary. Yeah, it's this.
01:09:30
It could be on the wall like this. Yeah, yeah. And it's a big like... And then you have it like that.
01:09:35
And you're mixing something like this. It's rat poison. It's the long cord so you can go all the way into the back bedroom if you need to.
01:09:43
That's true. In my day, okay. Okay, the coroner tells Anjette that he's worried that Marsha might have accidentally drunk poison.
01:09:55
And Anjette comes to see him. I'm sure she runs over with a bottle of ant poison and her younger daughter Carla there.
01:10:01
Carla tells the doctor a story about Marsha and her playing the doctor. And then she says that she had given her sister, fed her rat poisoning.
01:10:14
So she made her fucking daughter tell this story about how she fed it to her. It was her fault.
01:10:18
Yeah. So then, okay, at this point, Julia, Buddy, and Ben all are exhumed because they're like,
01:10:28
and all three are autopsied and show signs of arsenic, as does Marsha's autopsy. A month after
01:10:36
Marsha's death, Anget, who's 32 now, is arrested and arraigned on four counts of murder. So let's
01:10:42
take a look at her. I think we have one at the courthouse. At age 32. She's 32. Whoa.
01:10:51
How do you like those eyebrows? Girl. That's a hard 32, right? Damn. Look. Listen.
01:11:03
Again, with the hair. I have a, and I know this is wrong to say, but I'm feeling a renewed confidence.
01:11:12
I'm not kidding. I might wear that dress tomorrow night. I swear to God. Is that what happens when you handle arsenic too much?
01:11:22
When you have a murderous heart? Girl. In the heart of Georgia? Oh, man. The names of, like, the city confidential and, like, the articles that, like, they, like, you know, murder is served.
01:11:35
It all has to do with a restaurant or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, it's just all ridiculous.
01:11:39
Take out murder. I don't know. it's really ridiculous it's lovely take out murder
01:11:46
can I place an order for murder I don't know yes I'll have a side of murder would you like some murder
01:11:55
yeah sprinkle a little whatever you get it I have my murder on the side. Hold the murder.
01:12:04
We could do this for hours. And it would be equally bad the whole time. Eventually we'd get to a good one, probably.
01:12:12
I think so. After like 15 more. So she's arrested for all... Murder on the grill.
01:12:19
No. No. No. You're only clapping because I yelled it. That's how you get a clap.
01:12:28
Did you notice that I very sadly covered up the bottle and you stuck your entire fucking hand inside?
01:12:34
I'm going to put this so... It's not that I don't love you. I'm just going to make sure I don't ever touch that again.
01:12:40
I'm just kind of a germaphobe. Okay. Okay. But she's only indicted for trial for the murder of Marsha, her daughter.
01:12:51
But the arraignment allowed that prosecution could bring in evidence related to the other three deaths
01:12:56
as evidence of her system and what she did. So even though she wasn't getting tried for those,
01:13:00
hadn't been convicted for those, I feel like that wouldn't fly today, you know? But fuck it, this chick is a fucking cunt.
01:13:08
It turns out she is reading a quote from the judge. It's a different time. Okay, the newspapers go out of their fucking minds
01:13:21
because of the, quote, glamorous, platen-haired widow. What's this? Uh-huh. Yeah.
01:13:33
Especially when, okay, so when police route through her house, they discover, quote, voodoo paraphernalia,
01:13:39
including candles, written spells, potions, powders, and roots. Like, I don't know, you know, roots into the ground.
01:13:46
You mean these? No. Deep gray roots. So she's into some fucking Wiccan shit, and her trial starts in October of 1958.
01:13:57
Her defense is that she tries to blame it on, oh, that she tries initially to blame the murder
01:14:04
of her two husbands on her mother-in-law. It says she did it. Her mother-in-law killed her two husbands?
01:14:13
Yeah, her own son and then her other husband. Yeah. And then the maid was like, this is not fucking,
01:14:23
like the maid was like, uh-uh. Yeah. So basically, her, it was blown to shit. So,
01:14:29
the jury takes an hour to declare her guilty, recommends against mercy, and she's sentenced
01:14:35
to die in the electric chair for the murder of her daughter. Fuck. Wow. Yeah. I think that's fair.
01:14:45
Yeah. But, um, she's eventually granted a stay of execution because they were like,
01:14:51
well, we can't, we can't kill a white woman. It was like, you know what I mean? We can't put a white woman to death.
01:14:58
Yeah. So, yeah. But they did start planning her funeral. And so. But she would have been the first white woman
01:15:05
executed in Georgia's history. Wow. But she wasn't. A sanity, that's not sanitary,
01:15:12
that sanity commission examines her and they decide that she's schizophrenic. So that means she couldn't be executed.
01:15:19
I feel like they were just like, we really don't want to do this. So she's transferred to the Central State Hospital.
01:15:26
So she's there for the next 18 years. She becomes well-known to other inmates for telling fortunes with playing cards.
01:15:34
And she dies of a heart attack in 1977 at 52 years old. Wow. But they fucking bury her in the same plot where her daughter and her first husband Yeah so let go graffiti that grave
01:15:54
Hey, hey, uh-uh. No, this is a comedy fictional podcast where no suggestions are real.
01:16:03
Steven, don't you dare cut that out. Don't you dare. Send the message across the world.
01:16:09
And that is murderous Anjette Donovan-Lavis. Wow, that was great. Thank you. Get her out of here
01:16:16
Thank you She did not give a single fuck Do we have time In the bad way No, she was a terrible person
01:16:26
Do we have time Do we have time for me to hit myself in the face with a microphone
01:16:30
Okay, even before we stand up Yeah, yeah, yeah We have some crucial rules That we need to lay down
01:16:39
They're for your own good You have to remember that if you come up here to tell your hometown,
01:16:46
everyone else in the audience who didn't get picked is going to hate you. This is crucial.
01:16:51
So you better be good. You have to be really good. You have to know the names. Don't be nervous.
01:16:56
You can't be nervous. Can't be drunk. Well, you can be buzzed. You have to be able to follow your own story.
01:17:04
What are the other ones? It should be local. That's important. Georgia, somewhere in and around Georgia.
01:17:09
Yeah, in and around. You know, just have fun with it. Yeah, have fun with it. It's easy.
01:17:13
It's no big deal at all. Natural. Fun. All right. I remember. It's Vince. Hi. Hi, Gina.
01:17:30
Come on in. Are you going to do it? Are you going to do it? I'm going to do it. Yeah, I got this.
01:17:33
You got it? I'm a teacher. I got this. Oh, she's a teacher. It's Tina, everybody.
01:17:37
It's Gina. Hi. This is Gina. You've got this. Okay, I got this. Sorry, really quick.
01:17:46
Sure. We're just going to ask you a couple questions. Okay. Where are you from? I am from South Carolina, but I live in Atlanta now.
01:17:51
Okay. She's a transplant. It happens all the time. What do you teach? Well, I'm a reading specialist, so I'm not really a teacher anymore, but I teach reading.
01:18:02
So if you have dyslexia, you help kids learn how to do it? Yeah. Nice. Specialized.
01:18:08
Yeah, that's how you make that money. Good. That good money. That education money.
01:18:12
That's right. Do you have a second job? Just more teaching. Giving the ACTs on Saturdays.
01:18:20
Okay. Tutoring kids. You're just dedicated. I love it. I'm just going to say, as my sister is a teacher, these are such teacher earrings.
01:18:27
I can't even explain it to you. So I had to match. Oh, yeah. There's a pink cat nose.
01:18:35
So I had to wear bright pink earrings to match the pink cat nose. That's right. And I had pink lipstick on earlier.
01:18:41
What's your last name? Paige, like a page in a book. Mrs. Paige, Mrs. Paige. I'm going to let you tell your story.
01:18:49
Yeah, go ahead. So I went to a small women's college, not the one in Atlanta, one in Virginia, I'm sorry.
01:18:59
But I went to a small women's college in Virginia called Randolph-Macon. Oh my God, are you serious?
01:19:06
Okay. Not now, not now, not now, not now. We'll talk later. We hate college. So I went to this tiny women's college in Virginia called Randolph-Macon.
01:19:15
And in the 70s, there was, so in the 70s, there were still curfews. And when one night at curfew, someone's roommate didn't come back.
01:19:26
And so they were like, okay, what's going on? Like, who is, everybody find out where your roommate's been.
01:19:34
So this one girl finds out where her roommate been Nobody can find her everybody searching and they find her body on the boiler in the in a back building called martin
01:19:44
you know what i can't hear anything i'm sorry there's a science building and they find her body
01:19:48
on a boiler in the boiler room oh so everybody's like that again no it's okay i've told it a million
01:19:54
times it's our legend you open up at dinners so really quick you guys i mean kind of yes yes um
01:20:02
So they shut down the campus, and it turns out that this woman, she was also the Hellman's mayonnaise heiress.
01:20:13
Just as an aside. That's not an aside. When you said find her name, I tried to Google her name real quick,
01:20:20
because I was like, oh, shit, what is her name? Maureen Hellman, obviously. Look at her Patty Mayonnaise.
01:20:25
Okay. so apparently she had been like we our school was surrounded by a red brick wall
01:20:38
um and she had like walked off the red brick wall and she was it was the 70s so she was wearing clogs
01:20:42
and so she's like she's like clomp clomp clomping down to what was a restaurant that now but it was
01:20:50
the post office and so she's like clomp clomp clomp down there and apparently the sound of it
01:20:56
is driving someone crazy and this guy who had just gone out of a mental institution
01:21:00
mental institution killed her and threw her body on the boiler and the way they found it is when
01:21:06
they had to be like whose roommate isn't here and so whoever's roommate wasn't there was the girl
01:21:13
whose roommate was dead and my first year roommate her mom went there at the time and they said that
01:21:19
they heard like a really loud scream, but they were just like, oh, it's just people joshing around, whatever.
01:21:24
No. No, women's college. It was not. It was not. Did they catch the guy? Mm-hmm.
01:21:30
And he's okay. Yeah, so. And it was just a one-off because he was mad at clogs. Yeah, he just really,
01:21:37
that fashion, he would be really mad right now because they're so back. Yeah, they are back.
01:21:41
Yeah, they really are. I'm never wearing socks. But comfortable, so. I wear them all the time.
01:21:45
Me too, dance goes. Right? Yeah. Up top. I'm a teacher. Yeah. That was amazing. Oh my god, amazing job, you guys.
01:21:53
This was great. That's how it's done. That's how it's done. Thank you. Can I say something?
01:21:59
Yes. I want to say hi to my best friend, Kendall. She's not here. Okay. But she's the one who told me about you guys.
01:22:08
Oh, thank you, Kendall. And so that's why I'm here. Good work. Thanks. Great job.
01:22:14
Great job. Yay. And none of us in here are ever going to eat mayonnaise the same way again.
01:22:24
I'm going to start checking into hotels as the Hellman's mayonnaise heiress. Might want to bump me up to the presidential suite.
01:22:33
Well? Oh, we have special guests here tonight. Oh, yeah. Atlanta. Have you seen?
01:22:38
Did you know? You guys are really into true crime podcasting. Yeah. In a way. In a way that makes us look really bad.
01:22:49
because you actually do research they're real you produce it it's fucking good it's important
01:22:55
topics very important so we want to just give a shout out i'm not sure where they're sitting but
01:23:00
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01:23:43
and we're embarrassed for you that you have to be in the same category as us. So thank you.
01:23:49
I bet when they do live shows, it's so quiet. But Atlanta, thank you so much for having us.
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Yeah, this was so amazing, you guys. Wow, wow. I know. It's so crazy. So crazy. Listen.
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We started this podcast two years ago because George and I had one really long, great conversation
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See what happens in her apartment. Believe it was 900 degrees that day. And two years later, we're fucking here with you guys in Atlanta doing this.
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