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have to do and meet requirements we have to meet. What a bummer. You can actually see the video of
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last week's mini-sode on our website at My Favorite Murder. Select moments, not the entire thing.
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Absolutely. All right, should we go? Do you want to go first this week? Change it up? Sure. Yeah,
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let's do it. This is called I'm Self-Isolating in a Murder House. Hey, pals. Hope you're staying
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inside and healthy anyway. Let's get to it. So after spending nearly a decade living in the city
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Philadelphia, I left to go to grad school and live on the beach in New Jersey. Aside from being
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in New Jersey, I thought I was living my best life. My two roommates and I live in a huge house
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a mile from the shore that the owners are renting for next to nothing because it's the off season.
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One day a few months back, I found out another reason they were renting the house so cheap.
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I was outside cleaning my car when the little old lady that lives two houses down saw me outside
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and ran over to me. Before saying anything else, she asked me in the most New Jersey accent you've
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ever heard. I'm surprised you girls decided to stay here for the winter. Do you know what happened?
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You do know what happened in this house, right? A woman murdered her ex-husband right here.
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Oh, shit. I obviously had not heard the story before and she did not skip a beat before telling
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me everything. In 2010, a woman named Kathleen Dorsett lived in my house with her one-year-old
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daughter and her parents lived across the street. Dorsett was in a custody battle for her kid with
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her ex-husband Stephen Moore. Stephen! One day in August 2010, Moore came by to drop off their baby
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and Kathleen asked him to go to the backyard and grab some tools he had left at the house
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when he had lived there. When he went out back, it turns out Kathleen's dad was waiting back there for him.
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Oh, whoa! The father then beat Moore with a crowbar and strangled him to death with a rope.
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Dad and daughter Dorsett then dragged Moore's body to his own car and put him in the trunk, drove it a town over and set it on fire.
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It didn't take long for the cops to figure out who had committed the murder. There was literal video footage of them throwing away evidence in a store's dumpster.
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They admitted to everything in court and the whole family was sentenced to prison for the
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crime with no chance of parole until they've served a minimum of 50 years. The whole family, like they called the aunt and the grandma.
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You know what? You're all trouble. your cousin Maureen is going down for this when my neighbor finished telling me the story
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she then took me by the arm and led me to my own backyard and pointed out where there used to be a blood stain in the driveway
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thanks for the nightmares lady we get mail for Kathleen about once a week even though it's been a decade since she lived there
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I guess it's kind of hard to change her mailing address from prison well that's it I haven't noticed anything spooky in the house
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but now that I'm quarantined inside my murder home Here's to hoping the ghost of poor Stephen Moore doesn't pick now to come haunt it.
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Thanks for keeping me sane during this literal nightmare we are living in, Lindsay.
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I mean, great story, Lindsay. I feel like I've never heard of that in all the cases that we've told each other.
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I don't know if I've ever heard like a dad killing a husband for a daughter. I mean, is it Casey Anthony?
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She did all that, though. They just lied for her. Okay. that was her doing and they didn't do it on purpose yeah a dad doing that that's true
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doing the actual crime like killing yeah i don't know like how does that conversation start with
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your dad i mean it starts like it starts like this you you know what you were right
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doesn't it that was a mistake yeah she is horrifying yeah uh wow then and then living
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there i tell you if an old lady is running toward you hold your ground and find out what she wants
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it always good it always gonna be good it always gonna be good oh i wouldn give for an old lady to stay six feet away from me but run Except for the old lady that came at me when I was walking my dog in my old neighborhood
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because I'd just thrown a bag of poop into a garbage can that was waiting on the street
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to be emptied on garbage day. That's right. And she came over shaking a finger and I was like, lady, I'm about to light you on fire.
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It's garbage. It's garbage. And also she was talking to me like I was this interloper and she was living in like
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Bel Air. And I was like, no, I live four houses down. I'll end you. So I have my own personal.
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There's a caveat that I get to add to the rule I just made up. That's how life works.
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That's how we do it. Okay. Let's see. Okay. So my first one, the subject line is code silver.
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Okay. Hi. When I was in medical school in Buffalo, New York, I did my trauma surgery rotation in July at the county hospital.
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For those not in health care, county hospitals tend to be more rough around the edges, underfunded, and treat many patients without insurance as opposed to private hospitals.
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I know that because that's where I went when I had my seizures in 97, and it was horrifying.
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There were six of us in one hospital room. Crazy. Buffalo has its share of gunshots slash gang violence, so it was a pretty crazy month.
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I'll never forget the time they cracked a gunshot victim's ribcage open in the emergency room with a tool similar to garden shears to try to access his heart directly and quickly.
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But he didn't make it. There was one trauma surgeon in particular who sparked respect, interest, and intrigue.
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We'll call him Dr. J. He had grown up in a rough neighborhood in Buffalo and had, quote, gotten out, gone into the Army Special Forces, then came back to go to medical school and practice trauma surgery.
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He was very tall and muscular, soft-spoken, always calm and kind, unlike some of the surgeons who wouldn't hesitate to let a trainee know how stupid they thought they were.
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He was also a very skilled surgeon and constantly had a gaggle of residents and students following him, trying to learn from him and soak up some of his awesomeness.
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one day at the hospital there was a code silver which is the overhead code for an active shooter
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everyone was instructed to seek refuge in locked rooms one of the surgical residents ran into dr j
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and advised him to get into a room and hide dr j thanked the resident but kept walking later that
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day we found out that dr j was the active shooter oh my god yeah right i thought maybe he was going
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to be like the hero who saved the day. Same, same. He had shot and killed a woman who worked
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in administration at the hospital with whom he had had a romantic relationship. He went on later
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that day to kill himself. The story is tragic for all involved, but particularly so because in
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retrospect, Dr. J was clearly showing signs of mental illness leading up to this incident. He
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had recently lost a great deal of weight. He had been short tempered and had let his normally tidy
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house and yard go into disarray. He'd also been performing routine operations throughout the night.
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Think a gallbladder removal at 2 a.m. Police. Yeah, you'd think that would somebody would be
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like, yeah, you don't need to do that. You don't need to work all through the night.
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So 9 a.m. is fine for this gallbladder surgery. Yeah. Hey, surgeon. What what happened to golfing?
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What? Why aren't you? I'm sleeping. Yeah, really. Police later found food and supplies stored in the ceiling above his office. In the profession of medicine and surgery in particular, we are rewarded for being, quote, tough, not making a fuss and not being emotional. He continued to do his job well, despite these signs that something was wrong. So no one spoke up. I'm sure his colleagues regret this deeply. This story is a reminder to speak up, to be a busybody and to get into other people's business.
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Yeah. But seriously, if you think something is up with a colleague or neighbor, just check in.
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Just say something. It's better to be annoying than to ignore your gut and regret it forever.
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Thanks for all that you do. I love listening to your podcast on the way to work as a little distraction from all the
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intensity of the world right now. Shout out to all the health care professionals, teachers, grocery store employees, sanitation
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workers, and others keeping this crazy world running in a pandemic. Hell yeah. Not signed.
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Amazing. Amazing. Wow, what a banana story. I just think about the person who ran in to warn him.
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Yes. And I, when I was reading this, I did the exact same thing you did, where I was like,
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Dr. J is going to go take care of business in some fascinating special forces way.
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Yeah, yeah. And the fact that that person warned him, and that he didn't do anything.
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Totally. I mean, God, just unnerving. Yes, exactly. Amazing. Yeah. That's crazy.
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Yeah. Okay. Let me read. I'm not going to read the title of this one. Okay. Hi, all.
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I'm going to skip the pleasantries, though I love you both and get straight to it.
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Thank you. Thank you. This story is about my Aunt Debbie, who I credit with my murderino instincts.
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She showed me gory slasher movies when I was way too young. She would dress up as various serial killers during her annual Halloween parties, her favorite
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holiday. And she told me scary stories almost every night when I lived with her as a young child.
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Basically, she's been a badass murderino from day one, and she has many, many insane stories,
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but I think this one is her best. Nice. Fucking aunts. Love her. We're the best.
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Aunt who? Sorry? Aunt Debbie. Auntie Debbie. Auntie Debbie. Okay. Yeah. This story takes place in 1980 when Debbie was about 14 years old.
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She and her family were up at their parents' cabin on Vancouver Island. Because this was 1980, she was allowed to roam free around the small town all day long
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without checking in with anyone. Duh, it says. Of course, my crazy aunt felt like rebelling.
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So she decided to steal a cigarette from her mom purse and smoke it outside I love 14 year olds that are like I need a cigarette That was me Yeah for real It like I better go smoke this Benson and Hedges Lights 100
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the most unpleasant mom cigarette you could possibly steal. Disgusting. So gross.
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I love it. She then goes for a walk through the forest near her cabin in order to smoke without anyone noticing.
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On this walk, Debbie realizes that she doesn't have a lighter. Just then a man in a large coat comes out of the forest and onto her path.
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No. Now, obviously, 14-year-old Debbie's murderino instincts hadn't kicked in yet because she
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isn't creeped out at all. And she asks him if he has a lighter. Hey, I'm 14. Do you have a lighter?
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Oh, excuse me. I'm glad I ran into you. Are you a bear? No. Okay, great. Then do you have a lighter?
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Mister with a coat on? Is there a bunch of tiny baby bears under that coat? Standing on each other's shoulders?
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No. A raincoat? In the forest? Okay, anyway. Is there a lighter in there? The man walks closer to her and says that he doesn't.
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He then asks if she is out in the forest alone. Luckily, these questions scare Debbie and she lies through her teeth saying,
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my parents will be here any minute. I should probably go meet them now. The man just smiles and says, they're not coming, are they?
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He then grabs her arm, takes off his coat and flashes her. My aunt then screams, ew, no one wants to see that.
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jerks away picks up some pebbles from the forest floor and starts chucking them at him yes that's
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right that's right now i don't know if it was her loud screams or the pebbles pelting his scrotum
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but he ran away now it being 1980 and all after he leaves debbie walks home and nonchalantly jokes
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about being flashed with her family no police reporter psych eval involved cut to summer of
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1981 with debbie watching the news at the end of august with her family suddenly the man's photo
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comes up on the screen on the screen. That's him, she says. That's the guy who flashed me.
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It turns out she had asked Clifford Olson, the beast of British Columbia, for a lighter.
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She had thrown pebbles at Clifford Olson's dick. If you don't know Clifford Olson, he
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raped and killed 11 children and teens from 1980 to 1981. Oh, right. When she ran into him. Oh,
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my God. He was an absolute asshat in prison using his rights to file tons of bizarre legal
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claims example claiming that being denied a solid pleasure life-size revolutionary sex doll
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was cruel and unusual punishment on a positive note his case resulted in the rise of the victims
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of violence movement and a lot of amendments to our criminal justice system thank you for all you
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do especially right now when the world feels like a dumpster fire stay sexy and don't steal your
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mother's cigarettes without her lighter sarah from victoria british columbia oh sarah that was
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That was, as Miley Cyrus would say, a banger. That was everything because it was running into a creep in the forest, a flash, fear and danger, and then the payoff of, oh, no, it was a child killer.
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And getting away from him any way she could. And then it turning out that, like, her life was totally in danger at that moment.
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I mean, obviously, but, like, legit. It's crazy. And throwing rocks at him. I bet that felt good.
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I bet. once you get away you know no one wants to see that oh my god it was a different time it was it
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was the kind of thing where yeah in the 80s like i was 10 in 1980 if you were walking around by
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yourself you kind of knew to keep a like an more than arm's length distance from people because it
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was a possibility yeah oh man all right swiss the swiss cheese pervert doesn't live on an island
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you know no that's not that that was not a one-off so this subject line of this one is my
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great great aunt and the missing suitcase of money hello i've been debating sending the story for a
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while but since we're all bound to home i thought you might enjoy this family fairy tale okay this
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is a story about my great great aunt she was a beautiful tall blue-eyed black-haired bad bitch
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and is the reason i tighten up when anyone mentions nature versus nurture she grew up poor
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on a ranch in the West. And at the time, it doesn't get much tougher than that. I picture her coolly leaned back in a saddle,
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moving through the untouched landscape or bellied up to a bar, laughing with whiskey dripping down her chin.
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Hold on, is this my life story? I know. Blue eyes and black hair? Yeah. It's you.
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Not that tall. Okay. It is rumored anyone who came in contact with her fell in love with her.
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It's you. Sounds right. When she was a teenager, she met with a wealthy man. She met a wealthy man who owned a ranch nearby, and they were married a few weeks later.
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Whoa. Yeah, right? And she's a teenager. Oh, God. Sounds like it was a long time ago.
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Family lore tells it went well for a year or two, but the way my grandma puts it, quote,
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she wasn't one to be tamed, and it didn't take long for her to begin showing up to the
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family home with bruises one week and a busted lip the next. It is easy to get hurt on a ranch, so at first, they believed her stories of different accidents.
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One night, her horse showed up on the ranch, but she wasn't with it. The family scoured the property, and after two days, they found her completely beaten, nearly dead, only a mile from the family home.
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She had tried to ride there, but after a while, it seemed she had passed out from the pain and had fallen off her horse.
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She was healing from her, quote, riding accident when she began spending more and more time riding out with the ranch hands to gather cattle and fix the fences.
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She spent a lot of time with one man in particular. it seems the two of them fell in love and once in love they hatched a plan to kill her husband and
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steal his money and that's just what they did her husband's body was discovered a few days later
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he had been stabbed to death and a safe and his safe had been emptied the two of them were seen riding out of town on horseback with a suitcase and nothing else we could only guess it was full of the money that had been in the safe They went on the run for a while and then my family heard that the ranch hand body was found
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He had been stabbed to death, and his safe had been emptied. No! She was never heard from again.
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Bonus attic content. A few years ago, we were cleaning out the family barn and came across an old suitcase in the attic.
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My sister and I freaked out thinking we had found her suitcase full of millions, but were disappointed to find it was actually our grandma's spoon collection.
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That's so cute. Treasure. It says DGMC. Spoon collection. It was just grandma's spoon collection.
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Is there anything more like sweet hearted than a spoon collection? Oh, one of them is from BAMF.
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Yeah. One of them's from Disneyland. The one time they went to London, maybe. Maybe.
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Or someone they know went to London and brought it back because they're like, oh, she loves spoons.
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Bring Kathy a spoon, she says. Bring Kathy a spoon. She will love it. Oh, she'll love it.
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She loves spoons. Meanwhile, Kathy's like, I never wanted to collect spoons. I got one spoon and I think I like spoons.
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And now it's an avalanche of spoons. Isn't that an amazing story? I wonder what happened to her.
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I wonder what else she did. She became your mother, I think. That's when my mom stopped killing because when she met my dad, she was just true love.
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Okay, this one I got, I found some, it wasn't sent to me, I just found it and feel like I had, it made me laugh so hard.
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And I'm going to read it as I feel like it's supposed to be read and you'll get it.
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This is called Small Town Shooting Thingy. It just starts. So a couple months ago to a year, there was a couple gunshots shot off.
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I was just chilling in bed, listening to your podcast. It was about 11 p.m., I believe.
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I'm not sure. I lose track of time at night. And I heard some gunshots go off. There was one period in that entire first part.
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However, I did not suspect it was a gunshot because I live in a small town called Colonial Beach and it was really loud.
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So I figured it was close. I would later figure out it was two houses down. Also, I'm just 13 year old girl and I had never heard gunshots before.
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So I didn't know what it was, but I suspected it was gunshots. You know. Yeah. Since I was not confident it was gunshots, I was not unsettled with it and kept listening to your podcast chilling.
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I mean, imagine a 13 year old girl listening to our podcast. Hi. Hi. A week later, my mom asked me a question.
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The question she asked me was if I heard anything on that night, which I was so I was scared.
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So I lied and said no, but I lied because I didn't know if she was trying to be sly and see if I was awake because she had done that in the past.
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Okay, back to the story. and not with my life. But she said that there was a shooting at the house
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and there was a car with bullet holes in it. And no, it is not rust that looks like bullet holes.
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Also, there was a bullet hole in the wall, which is still there to this day. But now there is a different homeowner
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and I never saw it go up for sale. A little fishy, I think. But me and my friend, mainly me,
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to see who the new homeowners were. So we went there, went to their house when they when we were
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trick or treating this past year. And they seemed a little weird and a little too nice. But that
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could be me with my murderina instincts. That's right. And you're 13. Oh, and a couple years past,
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we thought that the house behind our house was a drug house. And I know of other drug houses,
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and the elementary school burned down four or five years ago. And still no one knows why.
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sincerely quinn that's my favorite one there are four periods i love you quinn quinn great job
00:24:36
in very entertaining uh email very well put together she's a sleuth it had it all you got
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your eye out yeah we love it yes keep your eye out try to find out why that house burned down
00:24:49
Why not walk around with a little notepad and ask questions? It was an elementary school that burned down.
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Oh, sorry. I thought it was a house. Well, then now we know why. Quinn, we're going to need monthly updates about your town and who's doing what and what's going on.
00:25:04
Please, 13-year-olds. We need a 13-year-old update. Also, if you're another different 13-year-old that's listening, sorry.
00:25:12
But also, we want to hear from you, too. Don't think that we don't want to hear from you just because you're in junior high.
00:25:17
I mean, God. that's when we're not like we're not ageists we're not like total jerks okay
00:25:24
that's why i'm glad you're going last because i didn't want that one this starts hi all let's get to it when i was a teenager i worked at blockbuster in houston texas
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i was a token girl there were usually only one per shift and then they use the emoji
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that you use in email that end up looking like gumdrops you know that they're not a full circle
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They're like flat on the bottom. Yeah. So it looks like a gumdrop with a face and this one's rolling its eyes.
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So it's like a really irritated gumdrop in the middle of the email, which I got it.
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Sexism Oh God Anyhow we had a ton of regular customers who had come several times a week some even daily to trade out their movie rentals One particular I mean God how long ago does that seem where you had to go to the video store and pick like three movies 13 year olds don know what we talking about
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Quinn, you don't even understand what renting a movie means and what a pain in the ass it was.
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A blockbuster card, which I think my dad still has in his wallet. Yep, many do. And if you didn't have it, they wouldn't let you rent a movie.
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Yeah, if you didn't have it, that was going to be the worst weekend ever. You were just relegated to whatever was on TV.
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Quinn, back then, there were like four channels. That's right. There was no cable, or at least where I lived, cable was just starting.
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I mean, Quinn, you don't get it. Quinn. Quinn, just you're living in this world of streaming and immediacy.
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You're welcome. We love you. Okay. One particular customer, though, who was the manager of the neighborhood McDonald's would come in multiple times a day.
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He would spend what seemed like forever, all caps, browsing the shelves and checking out movie titles.
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Sometimes I would catch him staring at me over the shelves, and I wondered if he was shoplifting.
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Oh, bless your heart. at Blockbuster. That's right. And spending an hour hours at Blockbuster is impossible because
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there's like, maybe 100 movies. It's not like a cool old school video store where they have just
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like 1000s of weird titles. No, not at all. They would have, it would be like there would be 10
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copies of Groundhog's Day on one shelf of like, look, you can write Groundhog's Day. Yeah. And
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whoever took it. Yeah. Because there would only be that many copies. Right. We're both doing hand gestures.
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We are doing this. Taking it off a shelf. This is what taking something off a shelf looks like.
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Okay. One day I was working at the register when a woman came up and quietly said,
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Miss I don want to scare you but there a man masturbating in the drama section In the drama section Quinn mute this Quinn Quinn
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And then it's just a line break, and then there's a line all by itself that said,
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dude had been masturbating the whole time. Oh, God. The most fucked up part is that my store manager refused to ban him from the store
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because he was, quote, a paying customer. A masturbating paying customer. So now we circle back and start to analyze who this store manager is and where he masturbates publicly.
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Because clearly, that's a thing that you don't think is that big of a deal. Right.
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When actually it's this huge sign. Gumdrop, gumdrop, gumdrop. I roll gumdrop, I roll gumdrop.
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But this was the guy's solution. He would just follow him around every time he came in the store and use proximity to discourage him from jacking off.
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Great. Blockbuster, I hope you don't wonder why you don't exist anymore Anyway, thank you for keeping me company on my commute to my dream job
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My friend Jonathan is a fan and I became addicted to MFM when my car stereo temporarily broke a couple years ago
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And yours was the only podcast that would get loud enough on my phone to cover the road noise in my hybrid
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That's right. Sorry, Mark Maron. You need a vocal fry. How about you get that register up a little higher?
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Thank God, because you guys have helped me so many times. Stay sexy and just get Netflix.
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Haley. Unbelievable. Public masturbators. Public masturbators that people aren't going to take any steps to get rid of or solve.
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Public masturbator apologizers. Yeah. That's even worse. That's hopefully an arrow. Now that the 90s are over, I feel like maybe that time is gone.
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You got to hope. One will hope and dream Great job everyone Quinn Those were great MVP Quinn tell your friends you won because you did That right Mainly you You won this one You won this time
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