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Hello and welcome to My Favorite Murder. The podcast. You have heard of it. It's these two girls.
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I don't really know what they do. Who are they? Who do they think they are? Who do they think they are?
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Hey, this is a special episode. We're going to do a Q&A. Are you getting like a summertime vibe from us?
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Because it's real. Yeah. Summer? Yeah. Summer? Well, it feels like lazy days of summer.
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Like when we thought, oh, yeah, we haven't done a Q&A like in a very, maybe in a year.
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And then when I realized that was an option, it was as if I was freed out of the last day of school onto summer vacation.
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That's what it felt like. For some reason, a Q&A makes me almost more nervous than a regular episode.
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Because you have to go back to all your improv skills that you got at the Groundlings?
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Level one from the two level one classes I've taken of improv before. True story.
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Yeah. It's not easy. It's not easy. It's not. I don't like not being prepared. And then I read through the questions that Jay sent us from the fan cult,
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and they're really fun, so I'm feeling okay about it. Of course. These are people that have good ideas.
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They think things through. A lot of them are professionals. Improvers. Professional improvers.
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Did I ever tell you about my friend Lynn Shawcroft, the great stand-up comedian Lynn Shawcroft,
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and she had the greatest story where she took a class, I think it was at the Groundlings,
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and she got in trouble, quote-unquote, because the only thing she could think of as an action to do on stage is fold towels.
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So no matter what was happening, she would just be standing there. She would just stand there flipping her hands like that
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and then putting a towel in a shelf. And the teacher's like, Lynn, we're in a restaurant.
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You have to do something else. She was folding napkins. It really does work at any setting.
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But I would love to know what my under the gun panic action would be. Well, I can tell you, actually, because I got tricked into taking an improv class once.
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I went with my friend, and in my mind, I was like, I'll just audit and sit in the back.
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And then the teacher, the great Chris Barnes improv teacher from Second City, he was like, no auditing.
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You have to get in there. And so I was like, it's my nightmare. I mean, a control freak extraordinaire.
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extraordinary. That was my nightmare too. Because it's like all you do all your life is don't act stupid.
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Don't act stupid. Don't act stupid. And they get to an improv class and it's like,
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act stupid. It's hard. The idea that, well, it's, it's act according to what's actually happening as opposed to not acting
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stupid, which is a plan. Well, I'm just talking about the fucking warmup. So that wasn't long.
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Oh my God. It's so uncomfortable. They're the nerdiest. It's like, they're trying to break you emotionally before you go into starting a scene.
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Like, yeah. Zip, zap, zap is a soul crushing experience. OK, so you had to go. You could not.
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So then the first I was really mad and I felt like one of those people that goes with the friend to the cult meeting and then gets in totally indoctrinated into the cult.
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But the first scene I was in, I was like, I think my panic action is flipping hamburgers because I stood there.
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that was what I started with. And then the guy walked into the scene from the like stage left.
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And then as he walked in and started asking me questions, I slowly turned my back to him.
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You're like an hamburger maker that doesn't want to talk to his cover. And Chris Barnes was like, Karen, Karen, what do you do?
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You have to acknowledge that a person's on stage with you. I was just like, oh, I thought that'd be funny if I turn my back.
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But you can do that I guess mine would be stirring a big pot of something Sure But that could look pornographic if you really Or like your Stragonona There so many options
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Yeah. In the improv world. What's going on? What's up? What's up with you? I don't know.
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Just living my life. Oh, I'm reading a really good book I want to talk about. Okay.
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Is it too early to get into books? Hell no. Do you want to restart the book club?
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Yeah. Do you want to... do the one-off book club there this is the book club meeting right now if you're the only people
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that get to come to this book club right now are the ones who by chance already read whatever book
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george is about to talk about that's right we're never going to talk about it again this is the one
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and only you're never going to be required to bring cheese snacks to the fucking or make small
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talk to people you don't actually know they would never ask that of you no you know that so i'm
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listening to this book called The Unquiet Dead by Asma Zahanat Khan. I'm sure I said that wrong.
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It is gorgeous. It's a detective kind of whodunit. That's like the basics of it but it takes place in Canada and
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they're trying to solve the death of this person. Did he kill himself? Did he get killed?
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But the person turns out to maybe be a war criminal from the Bosnian War and so it keeps, which I
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didn't know anything about and so this book is like super, what's it called? Historical fiction. So it
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keeps telling me all these things about Sarajevo, the fall of Sarajevo, and the Bosnian work from the 90s that I had no idea
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about. It's so beautifully, like, heart-wrenchingly written. And it's incredible. I'm, like,
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obsessed with it. And it's like a perfect true crime book, but also you learn something.
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Yes, that sounds really good. I love it. And I guess there's, like, a whole slew of, like, this
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detective. Well, I like that they're tricking you into learning. I know! Wasn't that fun?
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It's the best kind of book. And then to counteract that, I just watched the Go-Go's last night.
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The Go-Go's documentary. I haven't seen it yet. I was supposed to watch it with my friend Luke, Vivian Westwood's number one fan, Luke Womack.
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But, okay, go ahead, because I'll tell you, I got into something else accidentally.
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But you tell me about that. No, it was just really fun and great. And I didn't realize, I don't think I was bold enough to know the enormity of what they did.
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They were the first. and it's fucking fun. It's a really fun documentary. That's right, because when they came out, you would have been one.
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But I was 11. It was right up my I mean, they are the go-go number one. When that
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Beauty and the Beat came out, me and I told the story on Josh Adam Meyers podcast, The 500, because we covered this
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album. I sat in my friend Anisha Benedetti, who she was a year younger than me, and we did Carpool together.
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And sometimes I'd go to their house after school. And she had gotten that album.
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And she put it on. And then we just sat there staring at the album cover. And it was like a girl band, all girls singing girl songs about girls.
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Wrote their own songs, played their own instruments. And then it's like the whole thing about how they got famed so quickly.
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And they had to go contour and how it quickly drained them. And it's really good and fun.
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And I didn't realize how fucking punk they were before that. Yeah, that's how they started.
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It's hardcore LA punk. It's rad. It's really fun. Okay. So I really meant to watch that, but accidentally stumbled upon Love on the Spectrum, which is a series on Netflix.
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Did you watch it? No, but I know I want to. You have to. It is so good. It's Australian.
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So we already love Australians and their whole chill vibe. Yeah. So it's Australian adults who are on the spectrum in some way or have Asperger's or autism.
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And it's them trying to date. And they talk about how the social aspect of things is already hard.
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And so then they have like dating coaches and stuff and people that work specifically with people on the spectrum.
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It's the best. It's hilarious. It's heartwarming. You love these people so much.
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And you're so like the entire time I said I was sitting forward, like full body clench because I was so nervous for people as they were like, it's just a beautiful, beautiful thing to watch.
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It didn't help you at all with like past relationships where you're like, oh, that's what was going on.
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It wasn't like, you know, we're so easy to be like, he doesn't like me. And, you know, he can't stand.
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And then you later come to realize what was really going on. And it wasn't about you.
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You know, definitely had those exes. Absolutely. you know what it actually helped me with is this concept because just dating in general is so it
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feels to me at this point in life so like that's for the kids and I wouldn't really it's just like
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not my personality to you know can be like my five favorite things or this and that I just can't
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it's so difficult to envision and that's basically what they walk through and then you it's all just
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about being willing to be vulnerable and also to keep boundaries where you're just like it's just
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talking you can figure out if you like someone as you go you don't have to like you don't have to
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qualify and they don't have to qualify you're just hanging out the stakes aren't as high as you think
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they are especially when you're young and it's like you know every relationship every date every
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text has so much yes importance to it which it really doesn't it doesn't at all and it's all
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kind of like it's all part of one big story as opposed to looking at it like oh this is this
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thing that's going to deliver me from whatever where it's like no no it can't you can't approach it that way
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but also just these people the people that they chose to be on the series are such compelling individuals
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and you love them and you root for them and it's just like it feels good I watched there's a new
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Marilyn Manson there's a new there a new Charles Manson documentary that is That a sin Georgia as a person who supposed to be some sort of true crime
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That's right. I'm interested. But however, I've never really been into Charles Manson.
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No, we've already talked about him. But this fucking documentary, it's on Hulu. It's called Truth and Lies,
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the Family. And it's, I didn't, it's really, I didn't care about him. I had no interest in that whole story.
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This one is actually really fascinating and good and tells you about his, like shit about him as a child that you didn't know about.
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It's really dark and well done. So if you're interested in that, I mean, even Vince is into it,
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which I'm surprised. It's really good. Okay, cool. Yeah. But they have like old photos of him and people who knew him talking.
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So you're basically saying you're pro Charles Manson now? No, I'm pro Marilyn Manson.
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Oh, got it, got it, got it. I'm anti. Right. We've always been pro Maryland. Okay.
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There's another show that I happened upon on Netflix. I've been spending my time very wisely lately.
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It's called skin decision. And it's all about, it's basically like feel good plastic surgery,
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reality TV. You have to watch it. It's not like botched that amazing show. It's equal opposite botch.
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So it's, So it's a plastic surgeon, female plastic surgeon, a female nurse esthetician who is she often talks about she's like the number one injectables expert in the country.
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And then it's the people come in and they want things. It's not all, you know, quote unquote, superficial.
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It's like the first woman. There's somebody that has really, really bad cystic acne scars.
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There's someone who had a bunch of gunshot wounds from surviving a really terrible traumatic crime.
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Oh, my God. They have all these different people. Then there's a woman who got herself sober and stopped smoking, and she's a beach lady.
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Yeah. They decide if it's going to be plastic surgery or if they can just do it with non-surgical.
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Which they can do so much with non-surgical now. Okay. Amazing. They change the way your face is shaped.
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Yes. Completely. By shooting sugar threads under your skin. Oh, the threading? Yeah.
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It's fascinating. It is so fascinating. I haven't done that yet. And I mean, I probably won't.
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So I've done Botox and I've done filler. And I'm a big fucking fan of it. If it makes you feel better about yourself, then why the fuck not?
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Absolutely. If you can afford it and you are mentally healthy and you're just trying to give yourself a boost.
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Yeah. What the fuck? Who cares? It's nobody's business. Well, and so it's it's a common thing and it's so many people do it.
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And yeah, it is the thing of like, it's almost like I think this happens to women a lot.
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It's almost like you're you think you're being forced to decide whether you're like an on camera person or an off camera person.
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And if you're an off camera person, you're just not supposed to care about what you look like.
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And it's like, right. It should be. You should just always be aiming whatever it is for what feels right and good to you.
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That's definitely there's something like accept yourself where you are, blah, blah, blah.
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And it's like, well, I am. But also this like 15 minute procedure of some needles will make me feel even better about who I am.
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Totally. What's the fucking problem? If you have that kind of scratch, Jesus. I mean, but there was one woman who who came on and she it was like that thing where she was trying to say, I in no way want.
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like plastic quote unquote plastic surgery no one thinks that yeah yeah but then she had the
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like hereditary kind of waddle on her neck that was driving her crazy and making her feel terrible
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and then when she got the procedure like the difference was insane yes it was amazing okay
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such a satisfying show uh it's called skin decision and it's just one of they it's such
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it's smartly produced reality because it's about a superficial thing and then they bring it to
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people who it makes a huge difference in their life in some way and it's really beautiful.
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It's beautiful and then these women are beautiful that do it and they're so talented and smart
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and it's just cool. Okay, I'm into it. I'm there. I'm there and I'll probably be on it next season.
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What are you texting? No, I'm looking at something else. Oh, there's something else I wanted to tell you about that Vince
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just bought. Vince likes to buy weird shit online. Sure. He bought... Okay, there's this
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record label called Terror Vision. And they put out a lot of like... Do you mind if I
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lightly dry my hair as you tell me the story? Please. They released like obscure movie soundtracks on vinyl.
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So like movies you watched as a kid and weird horror movies and shit. So they released
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an album of Unsolved Mysteries music. So it'll be like It'll be like they have a whole song for Bigfoot music.
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They have a whole song for alien invasions. There's a whole song that they always use for fucking Loch Ness monsters.
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And so it's all this creepy old 80s music. They have the beginning sound music and the end of the episode.
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And it's just like this weird background music to have in your house. I'm obsessed with it.
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Is the Loch Ness monster music, does it have a little bit of bagpipes? just like a touch of distant bagpipes?
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It better. Is all I'm saying. Is all I'm saying, but it's like actual music from Unsolved Mysteries
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that they got the rights to. Amazing. Terror Vision? Terror Vision. How cool is that? That's the best.
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Visit that website. Okay so I got this tweet the other day I think it was two days ago from Lily Lynn She at Epicly Yours on Twitter She said Karen you probably gotten this recommendation before but just in case check out Cardinal
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It's a Canadian procedural. Dark and beautiful. So I go on there because it's apparently my job to watch every television show ever made now.
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and uh i think it's i think it ended up being on hulu uh or amazon i can't remember but anyway
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it's called cardinal if you liked the killing did you watch the killing do you remember the
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guy that played the mayor he's kind of like it he had dark hair short and he was super cute face a
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older? No. Okay, so that guy... I'm sure I saw it. Perfect. That guy is... He's the leading cardinal.
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It's so good. What's it about? About, like, cardinals and shit? Yep. He's a bird. He's a big red
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bird, and he's too proud, and he's going to get his comeuppance. He is a detective and his
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French-Canadian new partner who's a young woman. is actually secretly investigating him because they think he might be a corrupt cop.
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And they basically he had been working on a missing young woman case, a missing indigenous young woman case, and they never found her.
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And then it's 12 years later and they find her body in the ice. And that begins a new investigation.
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And it's so sometimes and I'm sorry to tell you this, Canada, But every once in a while, a show will come on and I'll say this was made in Canada.
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It just has a feel. And of course, you know, when they say, I'm so sorry that it was made in Canada.
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Sure. Cardinal is a police procedural that could compete with any that you love that's on TV right now.
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The actors are great. This season one storyline was like unbelievable. And there's three seasons.
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and that guy as a lead is I should why don't I look people's names up beforehand
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because you usually know them I do actually but this guy is because he was like one of the
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main people in the killing you've seen him in tons of stuff no I know him he's my best friend
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you've always loved him you wrote him that letter you know who I'm talking about
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Billy Campbell is his name oh you know him from such movies and TVs as The Rocketeer
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the J-Lo film Enough oh wait here sorry this guy he kind of looks like a model but he also looks worried
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here a worried model the best kind emotion model he didn't have a beard in the killing
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he looks like an old young guy He looks like an old man. Yes. I totally know. He looks like a high school student that got put through a weird machine.
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And you're like, what happened? You seem 18 and 15. He needs to go on skin fix or over his whole.
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No, no, no. He's like beautifully salt and pepper age. Okay. But he just has like a, almost like a, this is not a compliment.
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No, no, no. Even though I find this man, of course, he's like a standard leading man.
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He's of course very attractive, but he also a little bit looks like Jughead. And that's, I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to neg him.
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I'm just trying to describe him for people who are trying to think of who this is.
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Billy Campbell. Someone commented on a tweet that I wrote and just said this, I do not mean this in a negative way, but you, there's a hippo in my animal crossing that looks like you.
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I would never I would shut that laptop and never open it again I kind of got it I kind of was fine with it
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you know like the hippo in a tutu that Nick Terry made it's just like yeah I guess I could see that
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you know big eyes and all this did the hippo have a short black bob I didn't see it
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I'm just taking this person's word for it that's really funny any tweet that starts don't take this the wrong way
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I'm like mute then block Then report. Report to the CIA. Speaking of reporting to the CIA,
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should we do exactly right? Well, you know how our, because basically our podcast network
00:22:34
is a front for the CIA. Right. So it's the perfect cover. Good idea. The perfect cover.
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No one will ever know. No. So let's do a quick rundown of what you can find this week
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on the Exactly Right Network. Beautiful. Kick it off. Sure. Okay. We have Murder Squad
00:22:50
is covering the unsolved 1998 murder of Rita Hester, who was an active member of the transgender community,
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whose death inspired Transgender Remembrance Day. So that's a really important episode.
00:23:02
Cool. That's very cool. This podcast will kill you is doing Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever,
00:23:08
which is good. So cool. Bananas has Francesca Ramsey on. She's from MTV's Decoded and the nightly show.
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She's hilarious and lovely. Cool. Steven, you and Sarah on the podcast have Sterling
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Trap King Davis Oh my god, I just donated money to him in his van Yeah, he goes around the country
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trapping cats and helping cat communities around the US What's his new cat's name
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that the little white one that he just adopted? Alanis Muisset I saw that and I was like, well I'm giving you all my money
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Oh my god, I love it, would you be the best? Oh yeah, we've hung out before in person whenever he comes out for CatCon.
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He's the sweetest guy. Him and Nathan are just like the coolest dudes. Say hi for me. Nathan the Cat Lady?
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Nathan the Cat Lady. I love it. And then the following, this is important. They begin their newest series called Florida's Missing and Murdered.
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And it's going to be about two murdered women, both members of Jacksonville's LGBTQ community.
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It's an important season that they're coming up with. I can't wait to hear that.
00:24:17
Please subscribe, like, subscribe, comment. What is it? Yeah, you were right. All three.
00:24:23
and then this week's I Said No Gifts starring Bridger Weineger has the great Chris Fairbanks
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on it. Chris was like over the moon after he did that. He said he had the best time. I like that. Those
00:24:36
two people are good people. That's a real great combination of people and of hair. Those are two
00:24:42
bits of hair that really should meet and greet each other. Aggressively good hair.
00:24:49
Also, just as an update For the past almost two months, I would say, we've been we had our MFM kind of logo pin that's black and white.
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That's been for sale. And all the proceeds are going to BEAM, which is the Black Emotional and Mental Health Collective.
00:25:06
And you guys, we have raised you guys have raised $17,500 for BEAM. So thank you so much for all of those purchases and all that support.
00:25:18
We're super excited to be able to give them such a nice, big check. It's really exciting.
00:25:24
Thank you guys so much for supporting them and for supporting us, supporting other people.
00:25:29
It's really supportive. We're going to pick a new org to donate to soon. So there's going to be more pins for sale.
00:25:36
Also on the fan call, the video this week is the video of Karen and Steven giving me my birthday presents from last week.
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So you can actually see me cry. Is it crying if the tears don't spill out of your eyes?
00:25:51
No, that's Real Housewives of Orange County. Oh, shit. I'm from Orange County. I know.
00:25:56
That's why I can't cry. That's perfect. Now you just need to tell Vince that you need one of those diamonds that takes up the whole
00:26:01
lower half of your finger. And then you can cry by going like that and getting your diamond into the shot.
00:26:07
So they need to spill over to be a real cry. I mean, there's not a ton of real crying in media these days.
00:26:16
I think a lot of it is glycerin. I think a lot of it is hot pepper to the right to the corner, right before it rolls with some menthol.
00:26:26
Oh, I want to mention, and for some reason we haven't talked about, the new season of Search Party, season three of Search Party that came out like a month ago.
00:26:36
Because I wanted to give a shout out. It's really good. It's another great season.
00:26:40
but this season there's a lawyer on it played by a woman named Shalita Grant and she
00:26:48
this character is so incredible and she is so funny she's like kind of a Kardashian acting type of
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lawyer and it's like fucking Emmy worthy she's just incredible so if you watch season 3
00:27:06
and I mean you should just binge the whole fucking show it's so good Search Party is the best.
00:27:11
And this season is like everyone plays their character so well. It's like every single cast member is fucking bringing everything they have to it.
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I love it so much. That's great. You should definitely watch Search Party. Because I've run out of everything on Netflix.
00:27:29
I think I've honestly watched every... I was watching a show about the universe at four o'clock this morning.
00:27:35
Please. You can't know. I know it's all lies. So there's nothing to know. It's all a simulation.
00:27:42
Here's what's interesting, though, because I do remember in college, I got really drunk at a party one time.
00:27:46
My sister got mad at me because I kept saying, is it our moon or is it everybody's moon?
00:27:51
And no one had the answer. That's a great question. Drunk Heron. I love it. Not one fucking person.
00:27:59
Everyone's like, what? I'm like, you're all so ignorant here at Texas. Is it our moon or is it everyone?
00:28:04
No. And honestly, no. I think people are actually getting mad because they didn't know the answer.
00:28:09
So it's like, I'll stop yelling it when you tell me the answer. So anyway. I feel like that's one of the conversations that if I liked True Crime, if I had heard
00:28:16
you talking about it across the party and hadn't known you, I would have run over and
00:28:19
been like, that's a great question. This is, we have to find out. And also pre-internet, we would have had to find out by going to the library or whatever.
00:28:27
Psychopedias. Here's what I learned last night that was actually genuinely like I sat up and watched
00:28:31
it. Here's how we got the moon. back when the Earth was like still cooling or whatever,
00:28:38
an asteroid hit the Earth. The Earth? Yeah. And actually like in one day, it spun it around.
00:28:48
It was egg-shaped for a little bit. And then some of the debris that came off the Earth,
00:28:54
I don't know if it was cooling or not. Are you sure we're just watching the beginning credits to Third Rock from the Sun?
00:29:01
It did look exactly like it. But essentially, I think that's what they said. It either got knocked off the asteroid.
00:29:09
No, it was a piece of the Earth that got knocked off. I think that's what it was.
00:29:14
Listen, moon doctors, please comment and tell us. What's important is that I was paying close attention and I took the time to convey non-information to you.
00:29:23
I thought I had the answer. It's the reason I was telling this whole story. It was because I'm pretty sure it was part of Earth.
00:29:31
that then just was part of the debris that then everything else was too weak and got knocked out of orbit.
00:29:36
And then it was just the moon and the earth millions of years later. That's what the CIA wanted you to think.
00:29:43
But really, I fell for it. We're in a fucking John Lithgow vehicle. Was it John Lithgow?
00:29:49
It was. It was John Lithgow, Kristen Johnson, and Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Cute little Joseph Gordon That Matt McCarthy joke Yes it is It was a really cute show Stuart French French Stuart Yeah Whoa
00:30:05
Well done. Well done. That's right. Thank you. Can't miss the fourth family member of Aliens.
00:30:10
That's right. I think the thing that bothered me about that show is that I don't like Aliens at all.
00:30:14
And then that idea of like, I don't want to watch people act like Aliens. That's cute.
00:30:19
It kind of felt like an improv class exercise. of like all four of you are from a different they were all on an improv team and they decided to
00:30:28
make a show out of it but they were good jane jane curtains on it which is like she's the best
00:30:32
it was a cast of superstars hands down i'm not arguing the performance has made it happen
00:30:37
well i want to fight about it okay can we talk really quickly about your chair and how loud it is it's getting louder i know i know it's like getting louder and louder
00:30:49
through the quarantine. Oh, okay. I think I just need to burn it in the backyard.
00:30:56
It's a rickety wooden chair. I don't know what I was thinking. We need to get sponsored
00:31:01
by a really nice office furniture company. I wish Office Depot was still open. Steven, do you hear it?
00:31:11
Yeah, it has been getting a little louder. Guys, stop attacking me. First of all,
00:31:17
what's unfair about this whole conversation? is that this exact, I did Never Not Funny, Jimmy Pardo and Matt Belknap's podcast.
00:31:25
And someone goes, does somebody have one of those ball clacking things on there?
00:31:28
And then I was like, oh, wait, sorry, that's me. So when I get like, I get an idea and I just start getting, start scooting around in my seat.
00:31:35
Okay, let's get you. I feel like we could use the exactly right money bank card.
00:31:41
Do we have a money bank? We could use the exactly right, what are they called? petty cash to buy you a nice chair.
00:31:49
Oh, good idea. I'm going to submit a form to Danielle and see what she says. Do you need a nice chair, Stephen?
00:31:55
I actually do need a new office chair because it's falling on one side. Let's get those ones that are aerodynamic
00:32:00
and they're black net and they're really high back. And then we'll put one of those cab
00:32:06
driver beads things down the back of it. I just need one of those, they call them husband loungers,
00:32:15
like the big pillows that have the armrests. Sure do. My grandma used to read her fucking Diane Steele novels.
00:32:22
Danielle Steele. Thank you. Yes. No, no. Diane Steele, she's a different person.
00:32:27
Oh, she was recipe books mostly. That's right. Me and my sister got those for Christmas one year.
00:32:32
Different colors, but same thing. And we carried them around. They were so comfortable and fun.
00:32:38
Yes. Okay, I'm getting one. You could lean anywhere and watch TV or like, you know, make any place.
00:32:43
your dad and then remember those like they would have the like clipboards but like
00:32:47
there'd be like a bead pillow padding underneath them yes like right on the clipboard but like put
00:32:53
it right because so it would shape to your right shape to your lap right so you could really
00:33:00
clipboard anywhere why is it always chaos when we link up because nobody plans anything bro
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should we do some q a let's do q a that's so fun so in our fan call we had a bunch of people we
00:35:43
just said ask us questions do you want to go first do you want me to go first um let me look
00:35:48
but this is a good kickoff because we always love talking about food and it's easy to talk about
00:35:52
easy fun This is a good icebreaker Yeah Some of mine are fun and easy Some of mine are interesting and thoughtful Right I think yeah we have a really good mix I think everyone did a great job Hello dear friends I never met Smiley Face with punctuation
00:36:06
Do you like the chips on sandwich combo? And if so, what combo do you like? I have two, which I love.
00:36:13
They're asking a question and giving their own answer. Great. Good job. Great. Baloney with Doritos.
00:36:20
Ooh. Never even considered it. I haven't thought about baloney. Which kind, like Cool Ranch or Nacho?
00:36:26
I'd say that's got to be Nacho. Okay. Because you need a strong... Bologna is so medium to...
00:36:32
Cool Ranch is bland. Cool Ranch would just be like a little bit of salad dressing on there.
00:36:37
Yeah. Right? That's a strong opinion. I basically said, no, that's wrong about an entirely conceptual idea.
00:36:45
Hi. Hi. If you wondered what it's like to be friends with me. Or turkey with ruffled chip.
00:36:52
Absolutely. That's it. Those are great. Those are both great. Mine is. Oh, wait, sorry. Can I finish it?
00:36:57
Yes. Some people call this hillbilly lettuce. And then they wrote, thank you for everything. Rachel
00:37:05
from Cincinnati. Rachel from Cincinnati. Rachel. Well done. Strong at the top. Solid.
00:37:10
Fucking good question. Icebreaker. Conversational. It's genuinely interesting. Plus, my heart is watering.
00:37:17
Georgia. You can ask this on a date. This is your date question. And I'm going to have it written on a piece of paper next to me.
00:37:26
And I'll say it real fast right when we sit down at the table. So it's as awkward as possible.
00:37:31
Do you like polony and Doritos? And then just start crying. There was a moment where the Mike, who is one of the great, great human beings on this planet, who's one of the people you follow in the story.
00:37:44
He goes on a date with this girl and he's asking her questions like he had practiced and he's doing great.
00:37:50
He's really doing great. Are they both on the spectrum? like the people who are dating they meet at a um like a speed dating mixer people yeah um so she
00:38:00
suddenly just kind of shuts down and starts staring around and he's like um or and he like
00:38:06
asks another question that she has excuse me and then just gets up and then it's like as she's
00:38:12
walking away she tells like you can hear her teleproducer i can't i'm having anxiety i can't
00:38:16
and I I was just like oh my god that's so me it's like mid conversation you're like
00:38:23
uh sorry this just peaked for me and I have to go I have to go I can't this just remind this one
00:38:30
word you use reminded me of this specific fucking thing in my childhood that just made me real sad
00:38:35
and now I can't fucking do this anymore goodbye and as I as it's happening to me I am highly
00:38:41
conscious of how I'm leaving this moment with you and I know you think I'm hurt. With cameras on me.
00:38:47
But I just need to get out of here. Please let me get out of here and I know it's not allowed and I know I'm in trouble
00:38:53
and I know I'm bad, I'm bad, I'm bad, I'm bad, I'm bad. I'll never leave the house again. Goodbye.
00:38:57
Okay. Okay. What's your? Tuna sandwiches with salt and vinegar chips. Ooh. That is my
00:39:02
fucking... Ooh, I love it so much. That's number one. That sounds perfect. What kind of bread are you putting
00:39:09
that on? Well, I'm talking about like a Jersey Mike's or like a deli sandwich. A hero?
00:39:15
A hoagie? A hoagie like deli sandwich style with fucking salt and vinegar chips. Yes. Right?
00:39:23
Yeah. Yeah. That sounds so good. Salt and vinegar chips are my favorite fucking chips. But if you eat like 50
00:39:29
you're ruined. Your mouth is ruined. You're punished. What's yours? What's yours? You're self-punished.
00:39:38
God, Well, first of all, this makes me think of my friend Dawn Frazier, who used to put her French fries on her Big Mac, which I never thought of doing.
00:39:50
And I watched her do it. And I think she said something along the lines of like, learn.
00:39:54
Let me teach you how to live type of thing. And she bit into it. I don't know if I like that, though, because I like having a side of things.
00:40:01
And they're both so good on their own. You don't need them together. but chips had like a nice crunch
00:40:07
that you wouldn't get just for cooking channel again. Sorry, what do those salt and vinegar
00:40:12
chips do? They add a nice layer of crunch. Have you ever had an ice cream sundae with fucking salty
00:40:19
crunched up potato chips on top? No. That is good. I've had that on cooking channel. Have you really?
00:40:26
In Unique Sweets, there was this like, in Brooklyn there was this like old school
00:40:31
diner, like cutesy sundae shop and they would crush potato chips on top of a sundae.
00:40:36
It was fucking incredible. Hot fudge? Hot fudge sundae. Salty fucking plain potato chips
00:40:42
on top. That's epic right there. My mouth is watering so hard. And I think partially it's even just talking
00:40:50
about salt and vinegar chips makes my mouth water almost defensively. I think I would have to say though
00:40:57
for a chip combo situation, I'm so plain. I just love a turkey sandwich. I pick her suggestion, which
00:41:08
is turkey with a ruffle deli sandwich. Ruffles are extra salty, so the chip salt is happening,
00:41:18
but then they're going to bring some salt to the rest of the sandwich. They're that salty.
00:41:22
How about a nice club sandwich with barbecue potato chips? I feel like club sandwiches are already too
00:41:30
spiky and crunchy in and of themselves. There's too much going on already. You need the softness of a nice
00:41:36
shredded up deli turkey, some Swiss in there, and then boom, a big fat ruffle. And you know what?
00:41:42
I'm here for it. The rest of that, and of course a nice dill pickle on there, but you could also
00:41:48
get a ruffle. Have you ever had cheddar and sour cream ruffles? Yeah, that's so good.
00:41:55
They like I always look at them and go like no that just crazy It not what you want Stick those on there Man I miss going to parties where they would have fucking sour cream and onion dip
00:42:06
I miss it so much. Or like at the end of the night, that bowl of ruffles where there's 17 left and they're all soggy and the beer on them.
00:42:15
And eight people's fingerprints all over them. Back when fingerprints wouldn't kill you.
00:42:20
but you're starving because your friends don't know how to throw a party because they don't order anything.
00:42:25
They order six pizzas and there's like 50 people there. Yeah. Let me see. You have to be there for the first two hours to get pizza.
00:42:31
Right. Exactly. All right. So. Great job, Rachel. Should we go to another food one or should I go to like a.
00:42:37
I changed it. Because I can't. My mouth will be too full of spit. That's true. Okay.
00:42:43
Hi, murder pals. Hope you're all doing well. I was wondering, would you feel comfortable touring again?
00:42:49
When? If. things open back up. Love you all. Thank you for all you do. SSTGM, Chelsea R.
00:42:56
Chelsea R. My answer is yes. It's just that it's so mysterious as to when that could be and what
00:43:02
it would look like when it does happen. But who knows? I think we're not going to be the first
00:43:08
wave or the second wave of people doing things again. I feel like we'll be ninth wave.
00:43:13
You know? Yeah. We're going to be like, it's the double Dutch of touring where we're like,
00:43:17
uh-huh yeah keep going we refuse to be the people like on the evening news and fucking st louis
00:43:23
where they're like these two podcasters got everyone in the fucking theater sick because
00:43:29
they decided it would be a great idea to have a live show it it's um i would love to be so selfish
00:43:36
to be like it'll be fine well i'll be fine but then if it's not that's the worst so so so yeah
00:43:42
So the answer then is yes, in 2028. See you then. See you in 2028. I think the soonest we would
00:43:50
tour again is probably depending on how things go. Fall is out for sure this fall.
00:43:57
Winter is going to be out because then some people get sick again. So if things, if you guys
00:44:00
always, if everyone wears their masks and your parents don't act like it's a fucking
00:44:04
fake thing and everyone behaves, then maybe by next summer, if things are going well,
00:44:10
start to slowly tour again. That's the dream. That's the dream. Right? That's the dream.
00:44:15
That's what we want. No, that's a good... That's the plan. Just put my hand into a thing of hand lotion
00:44:22
as if we're not doing something right now. You're going to put hand lotion on right now?
00:44:27
Yeah. Dude. Put it on your creaky old chair. Give that thing some lube. Come on.
00:44:38
It's a very dry room. Both the chair and I are creaky. What if, for instance, Elvis meowing at the end of the podcast,
00:44:45
it's chair creaky. Say goodnight, chair! I like this one. Normally, I don't want to talk about stuff like this
00:44:55
because it's conceptual and boring. It's like talking about your dreams, but this is something I think about obsessively,
00:45:01
and it's this. And this is from Lemon Sublime, and they ask, if you could have exactly one
00:45:07
five-minute conversation with your pets what would you talk about oh my god who would i pick okay you go do you have one yes a hundred
00:45:18
percent because i actually do ask them this all the time i want to know where they were born
00:45:24
how quickly their parents bailed on them the thing i love to ask george is did you have brothers and
00:45:31
sisters and i just try to picture these dogs because i don't like i think both frank and
00:45:37
George wore strays. So they like George was found almost starving with mange running around the
00:45:44
streets of Hemet, California. So I'm always like, what happened? Cause she looks like she's, she looks like she has fancy dog in her.
00:45:52
So it's like, did your, like, did your pedigree mother, uh, you know, have an affair?
00:46:02
Or some stray, was it a lady in the tramp situation? Yeah. And then how long were you alone?
00:46:08
And like, what happened? Don't you think it's better now that you have your own room?
00:46:15
You have your own fucking king size. What's it called? Mattress. Casper mattress.
00:46:21
You have a podcasting mattress. You jerks. Isn't that better than the streets? Stop eating food off the counter.
00:46:28
I just want to know their life story from a young age. I love that. I would like to know Mimi's as well.
00:46:34
And I'm thinking like, I already talked to Elvis and I'm pretty sure we're communicating on the same level.
00:46:38
So I don't need to talk to him. But Mimi, I just want to be like, I want to communicate to her that she is safe.
00:46:44
And just because I love the other cats doesn't mean she going to die. And I'm, you know, and I tell her how I've never hurt her in her fucking life.
00:46:54
So if I'm walking towards her, she doesn't need to fucking freak out and run away.
00:46:59
I will never hurt her. I would like lay down in front of a car for her. just kind of calm her and figure out why she's so, so mean and angry.
00:47:14
Could it be that her mouth is so small? So tiny. She's mad about it? It could be.
00:47:20
Like, just because I pet Dottie doesn't mean there's less pets for her. That doesn't exist in my life, you know?
00:47:27
And also, she doesn't need to bite me so hard when she's hungry. So that's her. and then whatever she wants to say to me, I'll listen.
00:47:35
You'll listen with an open heart and open ears? Yeah, but I have a feeling she's not going to want to hear it.
00:47:42
She's going to be like, there was that one time you walked toward me kind of fast
00:47:46
and I'd like an apology for that. That one time I stood underneath you and you accidentally
00:47:50
stepped on my tail. Now I don't trust you anymore and it's been 11 years. You did that! You did that!
00:47:57
That's a cute question. Yeah, good job. Um, okay. This one says, do you ever miss recording in the pod loft in Georgia's apartment? Old apartment. I used to pretend I was drinking canned wine sitting on a couch with you when I was listening back in the early days.
00:48:15
And that's Hannah from Michigan. hi hannah hannah good question i actually just was writing a little essay about that and how much
00:48:24
everything has changed since my first apartment we were recording in and then the pod loft and
00:48:30
then the office that doesn't exist basically anymore and how i really loved it felt like
00:48:35
this like cozy cave that we used to record in you know and i enjoyed that yeah it was great
00:48:42
It was great. No, I definitely missed the pod loft. I have to say, though, the one I missed the most is the first apartment. It was just so kind of it was like watching it all become real in front of our eyes. There was a very fascinating experience. Like once we were into month four and we were it was that thing where we were both realizing people were paying attention.
00:49:07
yeah uh you know i honestly just thought we were going to be doing this and like just be entertaining
00:49:15
each other right so then it was kind of like as things would kick up um i just remember staring
00:49:21
at that like the dresser that your tv was on or like you know looking at you but also looking at
00:49:26
the sliding glass door behind your head while we were it was like you know you have this many
00:49:32
listeners or some kind of big news. Every week there was like a new like, did you see this? Did you hear
00:49:38
this person listens? Did you say like it was yeah, it was surreal. And it was yeah, it was doing it from a like
00:49:43
rent controlled little janky apartment in Hollywood. Then had no air conditioning.
00:49:50
No air conditioning. The neighbors were grilling outside of my window essentially. Remember that?
00:49:55
Yeah, and there was the guy that played the video game that you could hear. I forgot about him.
00:49:59
remember the ghost train from the pod lot yes and then sometimes we lived above the tennis court
00:50:06
so there's like a dude playing tennis julian mccullough playing tennis that's right he was our neighbor oh yeah i feel like we have i'm like kind of bummed because i
00:50:17
feel like my house i was really hoping we'd move into this house and there would be like a perfect
00:50:21
spot that i could convince you because i think you love going into the office well it was just
00:50:26
so fun to have an office. It was just like, and also I knew the sound would be great, that there
00:50:30
wouldn't be trains, planes or automobiles to worry about. And I just like the fact that it matched the reality
00:50:38
of where we were. That felt right to me. I think I just like being more casual. I think the more casual, the more
00:50:46
like right now I'm fucking lounging on the couch in two short shorts. Lazy like makes it feel
00:50:54
more like less important and less like, you know, dire that we get something good done.
00:51:01
It's just like two friends. When have you ever felt that pressure? My entire fucking life!
00:51:09
Breakthrough. It's a breakthrough episode. Okay. Well, I feel like when we come out of COVID,
00:51:16
the lease is up on our office. We're going to find a new space and this time we can actually like
00:51:23
plan a room around just us podcasting where we both get what we want out of it and
00:51:29
Steven can maybe have a nice chair if he wants. I don't know. No promises. Okay. This is simple and easy
00:51:39
from Lori KB. Candy corn or Valentine Conversation Hearts? Aww. Candy corn. Candy corn easy. Dude, it's so good.
00:51:49
That other shit tastes like medicine. Candy pumpkins. Candy corn pumpkins. any of it.
00:51:55
I love the people that don't like that. I feel like they're just saying that to make me feel bad
00:52:01
because I love harvest mix is a good bomb. And also it really is just little piles of sugar.
00:52:10
You get high off that shit if you have a handful of harvest mix. Crushed animal bones, which is
00:52:15
sad when you think about it. But good for your nails. That's right. That was a good one.
00:52:21
Look, if the Harvest Mix people could put a little message at the bottom of each pumpkin, it wouldn't hurt.
00:52:26
I love the Conversation Heart concept. Yes, me too. I love Conversation Heart. I don't want to eat.
00:52:32
It's like a fortune cookie. I fucking love fortune cookies. Nobody fucking eats them.
00:52:36
That's a wasted calorie cookie. That's right. That's right. Also, you just stuffed yourself full of Chinese food.
00:52:43
Good luck. So good. Okay. Let's see. Easy or harder? I have a cookie. Another cookie.
00:52:50
Okay. Would you rather live in a sailboat or RV? That's from Lori KB. That's a great question.
00:52:56
Oh, Lori KB got two in a row. Oh, seriously? Yeah, she did Conversation Arts. Oh, she's good.
00:53:02
She's good. She knows. I can say right away, it is not safe to live on a sailboat.
00:53:08
The ocean is not your friend. There's all kinds of things happening. There's no, you know, tidal waves in RVs, as far as I know.
00:53:16
And I have really fun, good memories from childhood. my friend Janet Nielsen's grandparents came one time and they had one of those RVs that
00:53:24
we were probably seven years old. Yeah. But it was like a three-story house kind of RV when we
00:53:30
were just like, no, we got to drive. Her grandpa drove around while we just like played cards.
00:53:35
Did you guys go camping and shit? No, I think so. You're not, you're not willing to do that anymore.
00:53:40
You're not? You have to be strapped in when it's moving now. That was the 70s and 80s.
00:53:45
That's a good idea. I honestly think right now, and Vince and I have talked about this,
00:53:50
If we didn have cats or if we had more chill cats we would be just in an RV traveling the country Really Yeah And actually I have really bad memories of it from childhood when my dad would get them for the summer and it was just a nightmare of driving for fucking hours and hours
00:54:06
Where would you go to camp? He took us to Big Sur. We went to Grand Canyon. He's going to fuck it. I know he's going to call me
00:54:14
and be like, well, by the way, that really meant a lot to me and I just wanted to teach you guys to write.
00:54:18
I know he's going to be mad at me for saying how bad. And I know when I wrote about it in the book
00:54:23
and he's like, I thought it was important warming experience. It was, but I don't like camping now.
00:54:29
You know, you can go on Airbnb or whatever and rent. People are renting out their RVs for like
00:54:34
a night or two at the beach now. That's smart. I would do sailboats if I could bring the cats, but then I would just
00:54:40
get fucking seasick. I know it. I just think, I love the concept. I think the people that do
00:54:46
it are amazing and brave and cool, but I can think immediately of four different
00:54:51
hideous stories of people that were like going around the world on a sailboat. Oh, my God. In my mind, it's all dolphins meeting my dog that's on the fucking deck.
00:54:58
But it's not really like that. It's not. Okay, you go. What about this? Oh, this is good and interesting and kind of what we talked about before.
00:55:10
But of all the live shows you've performed, what's been your favorite venue and why?
00:55:15
Venue. Where we've gone to. god they're all amazing they've all been like 90 of them have been fucking incredible and when
00:55:25
they're not incredible it's funny because it's like what is this place yes i love those ones
00:55:31
yeah i mean there's so many there's like the tech one in texas it was like the toyota
00:55:37
amphitheater yep that was like the nicest place we've ever played yes but then there's like the
00:55:42
orfiam in la which means so much because it's your hometown so it's like important and that
00:55:47
that we could see it was like house lights were up that whole show. I remember seeing,
00:55:52
there was someone in the audience that I thought was my friend. And then I found out later they didn't go.
00:55:58
And the whole time I thought, it was like, but that's how house lights up. It was.
00:56:04
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then what's the one, the beacon in New York. Oh, I mean that,
00:56:12
that one's epic. So it feels really important. The ones I feel like, Oh, I've heard of this place.
00:56:17
And I know that this is a big fucking deal. I mean, Jesus, the fucking Grand Ole Opry.
00:56:21
That's gotta be the one, right? I mean, that was like, but I felt so, I felt like truly starstruck by the building in this way that I felt like
00:56:31
some, you know, I don't want Carrie Underwood to be mad at us. You know what I mean?
00:56:36
I had that feeling of like that we skipped the line. Yeah. So I felt so intimidated,
00:56:43
but I mean, obviously proud that we could even fill it. And that audience was so great that night.
00:56:48
I mean, that audience was incredible. That night we met backstage Glenn Campbell's daughter, Ashley Campbell, who's also an incredible musician now, too, like following her father's footsteps.
00:57:00
And she could not have been kinder. another person I met that night remember was my
00:57:06
therapist Kim who I was with for two and a half years and then took her own life
00:57:14
out of nowhere her like her niece-in-law contacted me and was like I was listening to the podcast
00:57:24
and I heard you talk about Kim and I had to pull over and I couldn't believe it I'm going to bring Kim's mom
00:57:30
to the show and so she came backstage and we got a hug and talk and yeah it was really really
00:57:37
really um it felt powerful and deep and incredible so yeah i guess that's the show
00:57:46
there was also that uh when we were in anaheim right no no no it was the first time we played
00:57:53
Las Vegas and it was the Red Rocks resort, which was, we had those unbelievable rooms.
00:58:00
Our rooms had like, we had mini swimming pools on the decks. It was crazy. It was three sizes
00:58:06
bigger than my apartment. It was like, it was three bathrooms. Yeah. It was like something
00:58:12
from cribs. It was crazy. And the view was to the mountains. It was gorgeous and amazing. And
00:58:18
then we went down into that room and it was a little bit like you're saying, it wasn't a standard
00:58:22
like venue room. It was like a it was conference. It was almost like a banquet. It felt like two wedding
00:58:32
banquet halls merged together. And then they took the accordion wall. And there was like carpeting
00:58:40
on the ground and then people were in just kind of like banquet seats. And that audience was on fire.
00:58:46
There was something about the kind of like, we're just going to we're going to make a show.
00:58:51
My dad's got a stage. You bring your chairs. Like that feel. But that I remember walking on stage and it was like better than concert
00:58:59
venue. Like the audience was doing something. Maybe it was just the biggest thing.
00:59:04
Do you know what I think it might be too, is when we go to places that are like vacation destinations instead of like
00:59:09
people's hometowns, then everyone who's there is on vacation. Yes. So everyone feels soaked and excited and loose and free and having a good
00:59:18
time for days. It's so true. So maybe that's what Vegas does. Yeah. Like when we do Vegas.
00:59:24
Because also I feel like that's the vibe in San Diego. Like people maybe come from out of town to go.
00:59:29
Yeah. Because then we can. Santa Barbara. When we did Santa Barbara, that was like that too.
00:59:33
There was. But then there was also in. I loved Pittsburgh. I loved. Oh, yeah. What's the one with where Paps is from?
00:59:43
Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Yeah. Milwaukee. We've been to twice and that has always been.
00:59:47
And there's the people at the show are so generous. They gave us Harley Davidson leather jackets at the venue.
00:59:54
Yes, that's right. That the Riverside Theater right They so incredible That staff is the best They treated us like straight up rock stars It was crazy And yeah I mean
01:00:05
They did a whole spread of food that was murder-themed. It was incredible. And we're always just...
01:00:12
We could just sit here and do this. I know. When have we been treated badly? When has the audience not been the greatest?
01:00:17
But we're also just always surprised that people know who we are. And are nice to us.
01:00:23
In the early days, when we were kind of by ourselves before Vince was our tour manager, before we were totally, totally had it tightened up or whatever.
01:00:33
There was a couple of times where we were like, you know, something. But never, once we hit the stage, it was always just like the same thrilling feeling.
01:00:44
And then the gifts we get backstage make us feel like we're at home, like we belong there.
01:00:49
there'll be like local treats and like this is our best fucking this is our donut shop that
01:00:54
everyone loves or this is like the bakery and this is the beer and this is the kombucha and this is
01:00:59
you know it's it's really cool i mean since this is a total like for for the listeners type of show
01:01:05
anyway when you do q a because it's like we're being lazy but we do where it is the thing of
01:01:11
like we truly and literally won the super lottery when it comes to listenerships and the people who
01:01:20
interact with the show and who are a part of this community we lucked out in a way it's crazy like
01:01:27
every person is cooler than the last every person is funnier every person's more talented and crafty
01:01:33
it's what wait wait i think i can answer this okay just uh so those are all the you know those
01:01:43
are like the top top top we can do this i could honestly do this for hours yeah um but
01:01:50
that fucking theater i can't remember now toronto the toronto theater um steven you were there it
01:01:59
was the one that it's very kind of um almost like 60s modern so it's like it looks like it got
01:02:06
designed and built when it was like check it out a big amphitheater or whatever so there are a
01:02:11
couple nights right yep and we've done there a couple times too and so you walk out and it was
01:02:16
like so it's really big so it was one of the bigger audiences we ever had the first time we played it
01:02:21
and um and then the audience was like as if they were it was like you couldn't write better
01:02:28
responses for an audience and the way they were participating and enjoying the show it was crazy
01:02:34
that's so true that's the one sony center in toronto in toronto yeah sony center in toronto
01:02:39
it's up there and also that's when we got um backstage the meet and greet um i believe that's
01:02:46
the one where the woman brought she made a sign that said i shaved my face for this remember we
01:02:50
met her at the meet and greet she goes i thought for some reason i thought everyone was gonna have
01:02:54
signs and she was all like self-conscious that she had brought that sign which made me laugh
01:03:00
so uh I love it we could do that I could honestly and I would love to do this for two more hours
01:03:06
and also the Sydney Opera House too yeah oh yeah we have to get guided in because
01:03:12
it's so uh involved of how to actually get to the stage I miss it I really miss it
01:03:18
here's one uh hi friends when was a time in your life you felt aimless what helped
01:03:24
you get through the day today during that time? Do you have any routines that help you feel ready
01:03:29
to face the world? Thanks for being the good voices in my head during this time are. Yeah,
01:03:35
aimless. I did aimless from age 18 to age 27. For sure. That's all I ever felt. It was a constant, awful, where are you going to get money? When are you going to have a career?
01:03:54
What are you doing with your life? Are you seriously going to drink every minute of the day?
01:04:02
I mean, it went on and on. And as good things would happen in my life, they would absolutely
01:04:08
be kind of like, I didn't have a good enough practice to be like, focusing on that and doing
01:04:15
other good things that like felt good. It would be like, oh, I got, you know, I get to do a set on a
01:04:22
TV show. I'm not going to plan that set. I'm going to drink the night before. Just like insane bad.
01:04:27
So like prove your point that you can't do anything. Right. Like almost like I got convinced that aimless was the way I had to be and I couldn't graduate out of it.
01:04:38
Which was aimless comfortable in a way that was like, well, if you're aimless. Well, it's all good. It's all I knew. It wasn't like I knew a lot of people who were like, well, then I went to business school and then I did this and I got this blazer or whatever.
01:04:50
And I was always like, oh, I don't want to do any of that. But I also have a terrible feeling about my future all the time.
01:04:57
Yeah, I get that. I think for me, I think from like 27 on for me, like 27 to 30 something felt like especially the late 20s felt really aimless.
01:05:08
Like I didn't know what I was saying exact thing. But I think for me, like the thing that got me out of that was thinking about was like this American life.
01:05:16
listening to that made me feel so like hopeful and creative and wanting to like it gave me a
01:05:24
sense of like purpose and wanting to strive for something every fucking story was so beautiful
01:05:30
and and the journalism and the storytelling about like an iron glass so incredible and
01:05:36
these beautiful pieces of like a picture of a life and it felt so inspiring to me oh
01:05:42
everyone's interesting different stories I so I think like Radiolab and This American Life are
01:05:49
really instrumental in like helping me be creative that actually interesting because I I think um the way I did it was thinking about the fact that this is my story So it sounds very similar And I would have to say to myself this can be the story picture
01:06:08
If somebody was watching a movie and you're the movie, this sucks. This is not fun to watch.
01:06:14
It's the same thing over and over again. Do something else. I think I got a sense of myself instead of just being the like right in myself, freaking out and like kind of self-obsessed.
01:06:26
I somehow figured out that stepping out and looking at and then being like, well, I can't I'm not going to worry my way into something better.
01:06:34
I have to like do different things. I love that. I looked for like spare change in old coat pockets for so long.
01:06:45
Like I think the aimless thing, I think a lot of like, if you're like writing that in and you're 25, don't worry about it.
01:06:54
Because that's, you're supposed to have difficulties and you're supposed to kind of like trudge through your early life so that you have experiences.
01:07:03
So you smarten up and you get a sense of the world and how it works and that let people mentor you, let people teach you stuff.
01:07:12
This isn't American Idol. You're not supposed to step out and like dazzle everybody when you're 25.
01:07:18
No one expects you to. You're not that smart. So give yourself a break and smarten up and like become a student of the world.
01:07:27
And don't worry about like the presentation because you need to like, I think it's like, I'm saying this as much to my like 24 year old self as anything else.
01:07:39
but it's like we all we're so results oriented and we're so performance oriented and we're so
01:07:45
like selfie oriented social media style when actually like younger people should just be
01:07:51
actually doing things like get a job somewhere and let someone tell you how to do a thing
01:07:57
and be and learn a skill learn a trade like experience life yeah you have to experience
01:08:03
That and like, I feel like that I love the idea of being like, is this chapter of my life, anything I'll ever want to write about one day? Or, you know, and if it's not, then make sure you're experiencing things, making friends, having relationships, doing meaningful things for yourself.
01:08:24
that so when you look back on it in 10, 20 years, you're proud of the amount of experiences
01:08:31
you were racking up. I think for me, like writing a blog really helps because I always wanted something interesting
01:08:38
to write about. So even if I was terrified about online dating, I could be like, well, I'm going to fucking blog about it.
01:08:42
So it's okay. And it was like a fun experiment instead of just a stagnant life. Yeah.
01:08:52
And it's also, you have to remember, it's the judgment about it. Like, what if you were just the most aimless person? Like,
01:08:57
if you're worried about being aimless, be extraordinarily aimless, like go discover what
01:09:04
that actually means, as opposed to, oh, you're just not a lawyer yet, like your parents told you
01:09:10
you should be, or whatever expectation that you're setting on yourself to judge yourself.
01:09:15
Instead, you know, open the door a little wider, maybe for yourself. And maybe you're not supposed
01:09:21
to figure out what you're what you want to do with your life your partner any of that shit until
01:09:25
you're 40 why do you have to be fucking or 50 why don't you be 28 and know everything no you don't
01:09:30
that's a weird old thing yeah that's a weird old thing because also it's like i thought i knew what
01:09:35
i wanted when i was 24 and then i changed my mind when i was it didn't work like i didn't know you
01:09:41
know it wasn't growing to do so much growing and also like you get to you get to like change
01:09:47
midstream and try something else if if your original plan isn't working you get to do that
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That's code CRY at G-R-U-N-S dot C-O. Okay, this is awesome. I'm going back. I'm going back to the topic we love.
01:12:23
What's the best thing you've eaten in quarantine? that's a hard one because Vince and I have been
01:12:30
glutton city over here let's get honest about quarantine binging I'm ready for some reason I think it's been really comforting
01:12:42
I think to both of us is eating our childhood favorites so like we did hungry man dinner
01:12:48
TV dinners I've been eating Ritz peanut butter crackers every day I'm going to ask you to go back to the Hungry Man dinners.
01:12:57
Here's what I used to just go crazy for about the Hungry Man dinners. Saving that little pie thing till the end.
01:13:04
A little brownie. Oh, my God. It's so good. Is it always a brownie or is it different flavors with different meals?
01:13:09
It's different flavors with different meals. Can you just walk us through different desserts so far that you...
01:13:15
Or just how about the whole thing? What different Hungry Mans have you guys been enjoying?
01:13:18
Well, I only get the fried chicken dinner because I fucking love it. And we actually had a couple of weeks there where we were like,
01:13:25
every Sunday we're getting fried chicken from a different place. Nice. So that was happening for a while.
01:13:30
So then Vince will get like Salisbury steak, which looks disgusting. He kept asking if I want to buy it.
01:13:38
And I was like, absolutely not. And then it was just not. It wasn't what I thought it would be.
01:13:43
And then he also was like, yeah. It's like gravy mushroom. Yeah. And then he did like a turkey dinner thing.
01:13:50
And then we also got like a Swedish meatball situation. that's been fun okay what can you remember what the desserts for those were those were all brownies
01:13:59
i think really maybe they only do brownies now i'm not sure but the brownies are fucking legit
01:14:04
all like crispy and microwaved and have like a piece of corn stuck in it so you're not a
01:14:09
traditional ovening these you are microwaving them no no we haven't oh okay oh yeah you couldn't
01:14:14
because they're aluminum foil are they still aluminum foil no girl no it's plastic now
01:14:19
The last one I had was in 1978. I haven't been an aluminum foil. Have you been around here?
01:14:26
25 years. Let's see. What else are we eating? It's like a lot of experimentation where it's like I told Vince I like cookies and cream ice cream.
01:14:36
And so now he is ordering every single brand of cookies and cream ice cream until we find the one that's the best.
01:14:40
Okay. First of all, again, congratulations on having the best husband of all time.
01:14:45
Secondly, because he really is. He really is. He really is. Second of all, the times I've had to have a talk with myself because of me ordering ice cream from Postmates, where it's just like I actually have begun to plan what the other things I eat during the day.
01:15:04
Like I can't have it unless I only eat crazy good all day long and then order from it.
01:15:10
Because there's so many like fancy bespoke ice cream places in like in the valley.
01:15:17
You can get anything. man have a green shake for breakfast every day and you can and that you're fine so said i the
01:15:24
doctor the nutritionist doctor but i will say that i was gonna tweet the other day this this
01:15:32
sentence the secret star of quarantine question mark that spoonful of peanut butter because i
01:15:39
can't tell you how many times i've just been kind of like wandering around aimlessly and then i'm
01:15:43
I'm like, oh, wait, I can have a teaspoon of peanut butter to pass the time. I will say that with Vince, I haven't had to resort to peanut butter
01:15:52
because when I get in this brain area of stress and anxiety and worry, I look in the fridge or the cupboard and go, fuck it, and just don't eat.
01:16:04
So he's definitely been sure that I'm eating. But that means we eat whatever he wants.
01:16:09
for dinner the other night. We had chili cheese dogs, which I'm stoked on. He's been making a lot of tater tots
01:16:16
and tater crowns, which is a fucking Midwestern I didn't know about. What is that?
01:16:22
It's like they're little... They're like... You know when you get Burger King hash browns
01:16:26
in the morning, but they're flat? Sure. It's like that instead. That's a hash brown brown.
01:16:31
We've been eating a lot of Midwestern-y stuff. It's been like hearty-feeling. thing. It's been comforting. That's great.
01:16:40
Yeah. A lot of mint milanos. Oh, those are classic. I keep making quesadillas. Oh, yeah. Simple.
01:16:50
Easy. But then it also feels like I'm actually making something real. I'm like, sorry, I have to
01:16:56
stand out the oven for a while like an actual adult. And it's just a quesadilla. But then
01:16:59
I'll sometimes order from Sharky's, which is a rad Mexican place in LA. It's a chain
01:17:06
that's so good and everything is really well made and then get their salsa. So then I'm having my homemade quesadilla with some real good fire roasted salsa.
01:17:15
We've talked about it. I'm not saying this to be hacky. Zanku chicken. It's just it's everything.
01:17:23
And, you know, it's good. Kind of good for you, or at least like it's, you know, lean.
01:17:29
It's perfect. This is from Sierra and it says, what advice would you give to someone who struggles with self-confidence?
01:17:35
As someone who is often second guessing herself. It's so comforting to listen to both of you be real.
01:17:42
This may sound like a backwards compliment but even when you make mistakes on the podcast know that you both inspiring murderinos to keep going because we all human Love to you both Sierra
01:17:53
So the question is, after all that, is what advice would you give to someone who struggles with self-confidence?
01:18:00
Don't beat yourself up for struggling with self-confidence. You know, like that's, I think, such a big barrier.
01:18:08
everyone puts we put in our way of like, because we're not perfect, we suck. Yes. I think like,
01:18:17
once you learn to accept yourself as a flawed, as a like, hilariously, charmingly, real,
01:18:27
flawed person, then you can forgive yourself a little more, be yourself a little more,
01:18:32
you know which is a beloved person to a lot of people yeah and i think the it's yeah it's um
01:18:42
you're not gonna ever get self-confidence from someone else so i think a lot of people think
01:18:48
that where it's like oh if i just get if i line certain things up then suddenly that will be the
01:18:54
like the answer i'll be i'll be physically perfect i'll be i'll say the perfect thing
01:19:00
Everyone makes shit up of like, here's how they base it on other people they've seen of like, I wish I could be like him or her. And, and it's all made up. You just have to kind of cop to the fact that all of your attempts, if you're struggling with self confidence, because you think you did it wrong a couple times, or you think you don't have what it takes to do it. And that's all made up. And, and I will say this, it's going to sound mean, but it's the truth.
01:19:27
it's boring to be insecure. And I'm saying that as a person who has been deeply boring about her
01:19:34
insecurities for most of her life. It took me a long time to realize it. But ultimately,
01:19:40
you standing there, picking at yourself and only being like, is my hair okay? Whatever.
01:19:45
It's a fucking bore. Bring more to the table. Get some interesting trivia and focus on other
01:19:54
people. That will help you so much. Yeah. And let it go. Let it go. This idea of this person
01:20:01
you're supposed to be that you're not holding to anyone else. Yeah. You can try really hard to be
01:20:07
perfect and it's not going to work and you're going to be unhappy and you're not going to be
01:20:12
that fun to be around and it's fucking struggle every day or you can let it go and do your best
01:20:19
to be a good person and a good friend. And become someone you like. Become a person that you would want to be friends with, I think is the goal.
01:20:29
It's like if you're going to go to, say, a future party that will happen in five years.
01:20:37
Thinking about what makes you not have self-confidence. So is it like speaking to other people that you don't know at a party,
01:20:44
or is it something to do with work or whatever? kind of figure out what the area is that you've decided you are less than somehow in and then
01:20:54
work you know what i mean like if it's say it's a party then go with like 10 topics that you could
01:21:00
talk about that you could ask people do you care about the Loch Ness monster that right there is
01:21:06
a fascinating thing to ask someone at a party um as opposed to trying to stand and like look perfect
01:21:13
or be something like that, where it's like, or act cool, quote unquote, which by the way,
01:21:18
if you think you're quote unquote, acting cool, you are not. You're kind of a dick.
01:21:23
I promise you you're not cool. And it's like, and then people will come back later and be like, oh yeah, I remember meeting
01:21:29
you. You seemed like you seemed really unhappy or you seem bitch or something. Instead, it's like, if you can figure out how to focus on other people, I think that's
01:21:38
the key. Definitely. I love that. How do you determine which story submissions you share during mini-sodes?
01:21:45
And that's from Erin. We read them. So specific, though. It's so like it has to be this like well-written actual story that has heart, the heart of the reader, the writer, and a fascinating story.
01:22:05
Right? Yeah. And I think sometimes like, yeah, I think if you're if you write the hometown to try to sound like us to make us happy, we probably won't pick it because that just sounds like us.
01:22:17
And instead, if you write it, if we can get to know you through the way you tell your story, that's the most fun of all.
01:22:25
And yes. And then also, if your story is good, then you're just off to the races.
01:22:30
But I think sometimes people try to like please us with the presentation kind of.
01:22:37
Yeah. Instead of like I wouldn't that doesn't happen that often. But I think it's like that would be the thing that doesn't make me pick something is like it doesn't sound genuine.
01:22:46
Trust that you're interesting as you naturally write because it is. Yeah. Be earnest and honest and talk about what you like and you'll seem cool and interesting.
01:22:58
And tell us what your grandparents' names are. Oh, Elvis, hi. What sound or noise do you hate?
01:23:06
Oh, wind chimes. For real? Yeah, they make me sad. I just remember coming home from school, after school.
01:23:16
No one was home in the house because I was a fucking lachy kid. And it would just be like, it'd be getting like dusk.
01:23:24
And then I could hear my neighbors' wind chimes. and it would just be like, you alone You all alone Where was Lee Where was Asher Lee was probably her friend house and Asher was probably at some
01:23:40
practice. Everyone just did their own. We were all roommates and just did our own
01:23:46
fucking thing. Very independent. Yeah. So all the lights in the house would be off and it would be getting dark
01:23:52
and then I'd hear a wind chimes and it'd make me real sad. Yeah. That makes sense. What about you?
01:23:58
hate because I see I grew up my sister had misophonia growing up so it's the thing where
01:24:05
you there's certain sounds that you hate or like a sensitivity to sound so literally I could not
01:24:11
eat cereal anywhere near anywhere near her and anytime I chewed gum she would immediately be mad
01:24:20
so she had that thing where it was like she could hear your like mouth oh yeah yeah what I just did
01:24:26
would infuriate my sister. So I think everything that's coming to mind is her thing.
01:24:32
Because you're so, like, it's just all her, it's all her problem. But I guess, um,
01:24:38
I would say, like, hate, uh, uh, well, I really hate when, like, cars with loud mufflers on purpose
01:24:52
go by. Like, either motorcycles or the cars, those make, it doesn't make sense to me.
01:24:59
It's so rude. It's so rude. It's like setting off car alarms and waking up babies and stuff where it's
01:25:04
just kind of like, just to do it. Is it like, is it a biker thing of like, fuck you,
01:25:09
I'll have no muffler and you'll all pay. Is it? I get when they, I get when they're tuned up a little bit so that the car cars can hear
01:25:17
them. Like that's one reason that they do turn all that stuff up a little bit. So when you go by a car,
01:25:23
they hear you. And so they don't hit you. They know you're coming, but when they do it,
01:25:27
when they're on the highway for the blind, you know what I mean? Like visual people are fucking stupid.
01:25:35
They will, you know, so you can, so you can hear a car coming or the motorcycle coming,
01:25:39
but when they do it just to like rev up and shit, those are the ones that there's, yeah, it's, um,
01:25:46
but I'm trying to think of like the, you know, what is, what is a um nails on the chalkboard nails on a chalkboard type of sound to me
01:25:59
like a similar thing like that i thought of my answer okay it's so obvious i can't i don't want
01:26:08
to listen to 911 calls oh yeah that's the thing i can't do it's like i was like i know there's
01:26:14
something that the second it starts i go don't turn it off turn it off and it's um yeah any
01:26:20
serial killer or any like criminal being recorded and talking and any 911 call. I don't want to hear it.
01:26:26
That's a good one. I don't want to hear it. It was right there all along. Okay. You want to do a last one?
01:26:33
Yeah. Karen. Yes. It says, what is the most important thing you have learned from Georgia?
01:26:40
Georgia. What's the most important thing you've learned from Karen? And that's from Elizabeth T.
01:26:46
First of all, I learned a lot of things from you, But I'm trying to think of what the most important I think it's this.
01:26:52
Honestly, you got to start you immediately. If you if you start a podcast, immediately start making merch immediately.
01:27:02
Merch is it. Merch is where it's at. Get on that. People want shirts. Make shirts.
01:27:09
Get into merch. Take it seriously. It's important. It's fun. It is fun. It's so fun.
01:27:17
that's my favorite thing we're real good new designs coming oh that's right we totally do
01:27:23
yep but you did cry when we saw it I loved it I think I learned from you a very important
01:27:31
thing that I'm going to carry with me my whole life is how it's okay to and how to say no
01:27:39
when you don't agree when you don't want to do something I think I've been such a like
01:27:45
I don't want to disappoint anyone my whole fucking life. So I've been really, I've done things that I don't want to do.
01:27:53
I've said yes to this, especially with work, you know, everything feels like dire and I have to do it to,
01:27:59
to a point where I'm going crazy. But like, it's okay to say no. And I actually become less of a flaky person than a happier person because
01:28:10
instead of saying yes to something and then in a month being like, I don't want to do that.
01:28:14
and flaking yes that it's immediately being like that's i know that's not something i want to do
01:28:19
or i know that's not something that's going to make me feel good and uh and that people won't
01:28:26
hate you if you say no like it's not a negative and if they do then that's their fucking problem
01:28:32
not yours yeah they're probably a dick and also you yeah it's like i yeah i learned thank you i
01:28:40
learned that crucial thing long ago, which is the standard should be no. And you like,
01:28:48
it has to be really good to say yes, because what you do and your energy and your time and
01:28:54
your attention matters and is valuable. And if you have a thing where you're constantly
01:28:59
people pleasing randomly, then anyone can like energy vampire you. Anyone can take anything and
01:29:07
will always be able to manipulate you and like guilt, quote unquote, guilt you. And that shouldn be an option for anyone except for like your favorite aunt and you know your sister or brother you know what I mean like that like it it you have to have your inner circle and then everything else is like you don owe anybody
01:29:28
a favor you don't owe anybody anything it's just a good i think it's good self-preservation don't
01:29:35
do it so much that you close down um or you know like i can be i can be very like i'll fight
01:29:42
immediately but that's just you know that's just how I was raised you guys but it's also but it's
01:29:48
also like it dilutes your yes when you say yes all the time right yeah it dilutes it dilutes it
01:29:57
dilutes you know what I mean yes yeah whereas if you say no to things that are actually choosing
01:30:02
things that matter to you and saying yes to things that are important then when you say yes to those
01:30:07
things, it matters more. Yeah. In this cosmic way. And also it's just the, you know, whether
01:30:15
because this we could be talking about it, like going to a party or doing someone's favor or doing
01:30:19
a project or whatever, whatever it is, it's just you have to take it in and go, what, what do I
01:30:25
really think you have to like, take the pause and really go like, what's the let's look at this,
01:30:31
what would happen six months from now? What's the bigger picture thing and like actually weigh it
01:30:35
all out in a serious way, it's good. Because then you're being strategic about your own life.
01:30:41
Yeah. And there's an amount of yourself spiritually that you can give away that eventually it's going
01:30:48
to hit a wall and you're going to be exhausted from doing things for other people constantly.
01:30:53
It's going to spiritually deplete you. Well, and also it's that support. If you keep on saying yes,
01:30:58
for that reason, it supports the belief the only good you are is of use to other people. And that's
01:31:03
incorrect. That's like your boundaries actually are what make people like you having the self
01:31:08
respect to say, no, thanks. And not right now makes people go, Oh, okay, I can't just like walk
01:31:14
right over that person. It's it's like, it's a misconception. I think that often a lot of women
01:31:20
have that it's like, if I'm not nice and agreeable service service to people. Yeah, that's just kind
01:31:27
of a weird old idea that I feel like now young young women of today are have that in hand but
01:31:33
you know if you were raised by moms that were raised to believe that then like that's just
01:31:39
you got you got that lesson early and often which is smile make sure people like you make sure you're
01:31:46
nice like it's this idea that you're supposed to be the kind of Applebee's hostess to the world
01:31:51
and that's fucking bullshit yeah it's definitely built up my confidence for sure being able to
01:31:57
To know my worth and know that I'm not worthless if I'm not of service. Just do whoever fucking wants it.
01:32:04
Yeah. Which is not to say you can't be a slut. Get out there. Do what you want. The point is do what you want, not what other people want.
01:32:12
Right. Do what and who you want. Do what you like. Well, that's it. That's it. That was the Q&A.
01:32:19
That was the Q&A. That was so fun. Thanks for tuning in, all you deep, dark murderinos.
01:32:26
Yes. Thank you, Fan Cult, for asking great questions and thoughtful questions and plenty of snacks and food questions.
01:32:34
That's right. There's so many more questions we'll ask one day. I absolutely am going to buy a fried chicken hungry man dinner and try it out on your rec.
01:32:45
That sounds really fun. Rad. Yay. Thanks for listening. Thanks, Stephen. Good job.
01:32:52
Good job. Everyone, you guys are the best. Thanks for listening. hope you're doing well in quarantine yes stay strong stay healthy stay sexy and don't get
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