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MFM Minisode 196

October 12, 2020 /

This episode of My Favorite Murder features true crime stories from listeners, including a gruesome incident in Patchogue, New York, and a chilling tale from British Columbia.

Listeners share a story about a man who committed suicide after a police chase, leaving behind the bodies of his family. The incident occurred on October 6th, and the details reveal a shocking sequence of events.

Another listener recounts a camping trip where they unknowingly camped near the body of a missing teenager, murdered by serial killer Clifford Olson. The narrative highlights the eerie connection between their camping experience and the crime.

Additionally, a story from South Dakota reveals a neighbor's shocking past as a fugitive who lived under a false identity for decades. The tale unfolds with a dramatic confession during a family argument.

Finally, the episode includes humorous anecdotes about a science fair gone wrong, where multiple children pricked themselves with the same needle, and a creepy neighbor who turned out to be a criminal.

TLDR

Listeners share chilling true crime stories, including a family tragedy and a serial killer's eerie connections.

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Goodbye. Hello. And welcome. To my favorite murder. The mini-sode. That's right.
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That's Karen Kilgara. That's Georgia Hartstark. Hi. what's up how are you doing are you hanging in there
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good you better be because you have no choice that's really all you've got that's all you have left
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it's getting better to me what are you talking about what did he say he won't even pretend
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Try it sometime. It's called the Juliana Hatfield song, Everybody Loves Me But You.
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why dad why but hey this isn't about us this is about you hey I didn't mean to start off heavy we're just trying to do a true crime
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write-in show um yeah you write in your stuff we read it to you do you want to go first sure you know I love I love going first
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that's great because I love going last it's my passion this just is a subject line headline um hometown story okay
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And the greeting is my loves. Here, let me give that less vocal fry accidentally.
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My loves. Oh, there. Cool. I come bearing a gruesome and very recent story from my hometown of Patchhog on Long Island.
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Patchhog, New York on Long Island. Okay. And in parentheses, it does say pronounced Patchhog.
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This past Tuesday, October 6th, my sister and I left the house at about 11 a.m. to grab some coffee.
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As we were driving, we noticed that a block away from our house, police had the entire street blocked off.
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We peeked down the road to see crime scene tape and the medical examiner. We knew something was up, but we only found out the full story later that day.
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The tale goes that on Tuesday morning around 10 a.m., police attempted to pull over a car in a generic traffic stop.
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The vehicle fled and made a turn down a side street. Once the police had caught up to the car, it had crashed into a utility pole.
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When the officer finally walked up to the driver's window, he saw that the driver was bleeding profusely from the neck.
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He had slit his own throat. By the time the EMTs arrived at the scene, the man was pronounced dead.
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And after IDing him, authorities went to his home, one town over, to notify his next kin.
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Instead, when they got to the door, no one answered, so they forced entry. Inside, they found the bodies of a man and a woman who were later identified as the driver's father and sister.
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Their bodies had been in the house for 12 days before being discovered. Holy shit.
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And then that's it. The sign off is stay sexy and just stay away from Long Island.
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Forever yours, Mary. Wow. Yeah, you don't do such a drastic thing because you outran the cops just for the hell of it.
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No. That's like, this is it. That's, yeah, that's a big final act kind of horrifying thing.
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But still, you know, I think it's very human to be a rubbernecker and to be like, whoa, there's a bunch of stuff happening down there.
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But like, even if it was just a car accident, you know, it might have just to find out that it's like layer upon layer upon layer just be so freaky and horrible neighborhood.
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay this is just called hometown story Hello lovely ladies Stephen and pet babies I have a story for you from the Pacific Northwest As we have learned in many episodes Canadians are not at all are not all nice During a recent backyard socially distanced hangout with my mom and dad I plugged the MFM pod and was thrilled when my mom expressed her interest in true crime and even suggested I send this story to you wonderful humans
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My dad grew up in the 80s in a city called New Westminster in the Vancouver, British Columbia area.
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He's always loved being outdoors. So he and his friends, think the outsiders, would get out of town for extended camping trips, fishing and generic tomfoolery in the forests of the great British Columbian wilderness at any opportunity they had.
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Sounds fun. On one weekend, as my dad's small group of friends were camping, they noticed a smell that they assumed was an animal that must have been decomposing somewhere in the vicinity.
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It's never an animal decomposing. It's never a mannequin. But it wasn't close enough to ring any alarm bells.
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flash forward to the next week and the body of my dad's missing 15 year old classmate was found in
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the same area as the campsite that they had been staying at and he had been murdered this boy was
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the victim of a serial killer named clifford olson who operated in the lower mainland from 1980 to
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1981 who claimed the lives of 11 young people in the vancouver area this sicko would post part-time
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job ads targeted towards young people promising too good to be true wages in order to lure kids
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to him and away from their parents under the guise of work. Another weekend, not long after the
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morbid camping trip, my dad and some friends were walking through the empty city streets,
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leaving a house party. So at 3 a.m., when a white windowless van screeches to a halt next to them
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and a man tries to entice the teens into taking a ride home, they were rightfully freaked out and
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decided the best course of action was to swear and yell at the guy until he slammed on the passenger
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he slammed the passenger door and sped away he has no proof that this was really olsen but even if it
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wasn't trying to lure intoxicated teenage boys into a van in the middle of the night is next level
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sketchy this was really long but i hope it's worth it love you guys thank you for taking the time to
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read the story that has been on regular rotation during our family campfires and road trips i hope
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everybody at the MFM crew and all the fellow murderinos are safe, healthy, and happy. Always
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remember to follow your nose and never get into a van with strange men while serial killer is on
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the loose SSDGM. God, that's so insane. Like a kid is missing from their class. Yeah. And then they
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go have this experience while camping and then find out they were basically near his body. The
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knowledge that they smelled that. And then like, it probably was the guy in the van, right? Like,
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no there's probably probably if it's in if it's in the town and it's like that's the town he was
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working in could who else see because that's the thing that's so weird about it is like the
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windowless van community it's what it is literally like house painters yeah it's certain like
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certified delivery people and straight up serial killers yeah there's it's such a small and maybe
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sometimes like a CYO basketball group. But it's like a windowless van. There's no need. No, no windowless. Maybe
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a band on tour once in a while. But they bought it from a fucking serial killer, probably their van.
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Right. You know? Right. Yeah. The subject line of this one is the neighbor and the world record.
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Greetings all. Hope this finds you healthy and masked. I love your show and when you asked for interesting
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neighbor stories, I had to gift you this little gem from my dad. My dad has been telling me the tale of his grandpa, my great grandpa's neighbor, my whole life.
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And now it's time to pass it on to you all. In the 60s, my dad was a teenager and would spend his summers working on my great grandpa's ranch in the black hills of South Dakota.
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Have you ever been to South Dakota? I don't think I've been to either Dakota. You think it's pretty gorgeous, right?
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Just like super like I think it's like prairies and obviously some black hills in the background.
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Right. That sounds nice. My great grandpa's nearest neighbor was a sheep rancher named Claude Willis.
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According to my dad, Mr. Willis was a big man of few words. He always had on boots, a sweaty cowboy hat and a cigarette hanging from the corner of his lip.
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And then in parentheses, I'm picturing Jack Palance and City Slickers. My great grandpa bought sheep from Mr. Willis and my dad would spend his summer days back and forth working between the two ranches.
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As the years passed, Mr. Willis suffered a stroke, left his ranch and moved in with his son and daughter in law in California.
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Hold on, because here comes the WTF moment. On November 15th, 1969, Mr. Willis and his daughter-in-law got into a heated argument.
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It was at this moment that he decided to unburden himself of a secret that he had held for over four decades.
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His name was not, in fact, Claude Willis. His name was actually Leonard T. Frisco in 19...
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How does this come out in a fight? I don't understand. Oh, yeah? Well, I'm not who I said I was all these years.
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You know what? Well, shut up for a second because I'm not who I say I am. Oh, you think you're better than me? Let me tell you something.
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I'm way worse than you even think I am. Okay. Yeah, that makes no sense. Why I'm and my name is Leonard T. Frisco.
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Okay. In 1920, Mr. Frisco attempted to steal a Model T, some guns and ammunition.
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During his apprehension, he murdered two police officers. he was captured and sentenced to life in prison but he escaped in 1923 he had been living as claude
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willis ever since holy shit after his confession yeah after his confession which i bet he regret
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regretted the second that fight ended he was just like daughter-in-law you can't trust your daughter
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in law he was a man of few words until he wasn't yeah after his confession his son and daughter-in-law
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turned him in and he went back to the Nevada State Prison after 46 years on the run at the age of 77.
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Your dad, you find that out about him? Yeah. What a bummer. That yeah Okay Leonard T Frisco lived a full and successful life under the radar and managed to secure himself a longstanding spot in the Guinness Book of World Records as the longest escaped and recaptured prisoner My dad has a lot of tales from his past but this one is my favorite Stay sexy stay safe And if you want to break a world record I sure there are easier ways to do it Emily
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holy shit so claude willis slash leonard t frisco is the longest running escaped and recaptured
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prisoner that there is 46 years wow wow that's a good one i these are all dad themed i think
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yeah and so is my dad time so is my next one uh you know father's day is coming up next year and
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we want you to be ready. That's right. Hello, ladies. Oh, hello. It's a Stephen Merchant?
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I just listened to the last minisode and I couldn't help but send in some more details on the Idlewild Park Daniel Tiger
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little boy fell out of the roller coaster story. Thank God. Thank God. Remember that? A follow up. Yes, I do.
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I, along with my dad and four siblings, have worked at Idlewild for many years. It's a popular summer job for kids in the Pittsburgh area starting at age 14.
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Ride operators have to be 16. They wanted to clarify. I worked there for nine summers and
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my dad was there for more than 12 years. My siblings and I all worked in the food department
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and my dad was the lead carpenter. That's such a dad job. Putting the nails up in the roller
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coasters. That'll fix it. Basically. Yeah. The roller coaster in question was a wooden
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coaster and during the off season, my dad was rebuilding sections of the track. So yes,
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that's exactly what was fucking happening. On the day that this accident occurred,
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I was working at my non-Idlewild job. When I heard the news of what happened, my heart instantly sank to my stomach because I was afraid that it had something to do with
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my dad's work and could implicate him in some way. Luckily, it wasn't the fault of the coaster
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track, but the fact that the two brothers were seated together in a car and switched places
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once the train left the station, leaving the smaller boy on the outside of the car.
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I think he was also standing up, which made it too easy for him to fall out as the coaster
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went around a curve. And then it says in parentheses, this could have obviously been avoided with seatbelts.
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My dad was one of the first employees on the scene, but fortunately, the first aid building
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is located right next to the coaster and EMTs were with the boy immediately. As the last emailer said, he was life flighted to a nearby hospital.
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From what my dad heard in the months following, the little boy recovered well. I believe he has some minor lasting effects from the accident, but on the whole is doing well.
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Phew. Well, I just wanted to share some more. Huh? Miracle. It's a miracle. Yeah.
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To be thrown off a working roller coaster and not only live, but be okay with minor.
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I mean, Jesus Christ. Seriously. I just wanted to share some more insight on that accident as it is also as it also struck super close to home for me.
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Stay safe and wear seatbelts on roller coasters. Amber. Thank you, Amber. That was really good.
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That was good information. I'm never going on a roller coaster again in my life.
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I feel like I can definitively say that and just be fine with it. Yeah. And at this point, I think it's healthy to be letting go of things like roller coasters.
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I think so, too. For at least a little while. Yeah. Although I would like you to, when everything gets normal again, I would like you to re-approach
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the Tower of Terror because I think you could have a really good time on it. Is that a roller coaster?
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Kind of. That's the one where you basically drop in an elevator. It's like a broken elevator.
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Other than that, I like that. But it's all about the lead up where you're, it just builds suspense and tension.
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And then you just get in an elevator and it drops. It's awesome. Okay. I'll do it for you.
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To impress you. I think that it's the only thing that will impress me. Forget about your good spelling.
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Forget about all those other ways you try to impress me. Because aren't you the one that you said you had an edible and then you had to leave?
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Like you couldn't go on it? I went on that. Yeah. But this time I'll be sober. It'll be great.
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writing in until you asked about creepy neighbor stories. So let's just dive in, eh? Back in the day,
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and then in parentheses, I'm 32, my mom would take my brother and I out trick-or-treating.
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Our neighborhood was pretty epic for Halloween. The houses were fairly close together, no street
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lights, just flashlights, and every house participated. There was this house in the
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neighborhood that all the kids would save for last. Why? Because it was awesome. This dude would go
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all out. He would transform his depressing single story to a haunted house any kid would love.
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Each year was themed. I'm not sure if my vivid memory is of just one year or all the years that
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we went there combined into one. For example, I recall a science theme where this dude, I guess
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that's his official name now, was dressed as a mad scientist. And all the kids could do interactive
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experiments like rubbing electric balls to make their hair stand up. This was also the only home
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in the neighborhood that the kids would be invited into. Finally, the coolest part was
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seeing your picture he took of you the previous year on the wall. So, you know, when I was
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Lisa Left Eye Lopez, I could see myself pictured on the wall as a wizard. One year changes a
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lot. So, let's recap. A single man opening his house up to children, playing dress up,
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taking their pictures, and keeping their pictures on his wall. You'd think all these glaring
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red flags would have smacked all the parents in the face but this was the 90s fast forward two
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years later dude was arrested for child pornography who would have thought right i don't know literally
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anyone so don't let creepy dudes take pictures of your kids and if all signs are pointing to weirdo
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don't ignore them with love lisa from philly where you know bad things happen oh god
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oh my like i want it to be real i want him to be a good person and like cool and like kind and it's
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just like fun for him because he never had kids of his own or something why does he have to be a
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pervert and prove everyone right he's just he's just a perv that's taking advantage of our national
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holidays our beautiful wiccan based pagan based holidays and using them to his own for his own
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uses. And then kissing up to the moms. Okay. My last one's called Scandal at the Science Fair.
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Yeah. Hello, Murder Mams and the Mustache Man. All right. I vaguely remember an episode from forever
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ago when you guys talked about a dentist who contaminated his patients with HIV. I don't remember any of the details. Did this actually happen?
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Was it all a dream? Who knows? But it did remind me of a more innocent version of events that happened at my former elementary school. And for reasons unbeknownst
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to all of us, today is the day that I decided to share it with you. Every year, third and fourth
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grade students were allowed to prepare a science fair project on a topic of their choice. You know,
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a bunch of tri-fold poster boards, seven-year-olds milling about the hot gym, the whole deal. Well,
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one girl who herself was diabetic decided to do her project on diabetes. In an effort to thoroughly
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impact other young scientific minds, she wanted to give her classmates a firsthand experience
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of what it was like to have to prick yourself with a needle every day to check your blood sugar.
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Bad idea. And she only brought one needle. Terrible idea. By the time the teacher caught on, about 25 kids had pricked themselves with the same
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lancet. No. Yes. Yes. Oh, no. Kid ideas gone. Seven years old. Kid ideas Kid ideas
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I didn't mean to kill you Kid ideas When I was in elementary school I stayed as far away from shots and needles as possible
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So I don't know what these kids were thinking I'm sure this was an absolute nightmare
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For the school administration But the health department was called And fortunately no diseases were spread
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So no harm done I guess Thank you all so much for the joy you bring into my life
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Listening to you made my long Solitary drives to and from college so much more enjoyable, although I did get extra freaked out when I needed to stop for gas at night.
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Stay safe and maybe check your kid's science fair project the night before. Oh, that's so like they all wanted to like try to understand what she was going through.
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Like 25 kids were like, sure, let's do this. It would have been fine if she had followed the idea.
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If I was her teacher, I'd have been like, look, F, because do you use the same needle every time?
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No, you don't. You put it in your biohazard box over in the laundry room or whatever.
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You have to keep that same standard here at the slime. I feel like as a teacher, you should catch on early that if anything has to do with blood, you know what I mean?
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Like if any of the students are doing a project where blood is involved, maybe not to blame her.
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You know, it's overcrowded classrooms these days. Yeah. Let's not be teacher blamers.
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But I would say that was a teacher who maybe didn't do one pass through and just get the full sense of what we're.
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OK, we get what your actual science fair project is about. But what will you be doing within your time here at the science fair?
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Will there be blood? Important. There will be blood. There will be blood. There will be blood if you're seven years old.
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Episode Highlights

  • Dr. Death the Cowboy
    A charming neurosurgeon becomes a figure of betrayal and greed, leaving broken bodies behind.
    “This is a story of greed, betrayal, and a fight for justice.”
    @ 00m 51s
    October 12, 2020
  • Hometown Horror
    A chilling tale of a crime scene discovered during a coffee run.
    “They found the bodies of a man and a woman who were later identified as the driver's father and sister.”
    @ 04m 49s
    October 12, 2020
  • The Longest Escape
    A man lived under an alias for 46 years before revealing his true identity during a fight.
    “His name was actually Leonard T. Frisco.”
    @ 10m 41s
    October 12, 2020
  • Kid Ideas Gone Wrong
    A humorous reflection on a chaotic science fair project involving blood.
    “I didn't mean to kill you”
    @ 22m 36s
    October 12, 2020
  • The Importance of Safety
    A reminder to check children's science projects for safety before the fair.
    “Stay safe and maybe check your kid's science fair project the night before.”
    @ 23m 08s
    October 12, 2020
  • Blood at the Science Fair
    A shocking admission about a seven-year-old's project that involves blood.
    “There will be blood if you're seven years old.”
    @ 24m 23s
    October 12, 2020

Episode Quotes

  • He promised to heal them. Instead, he left a trail of broken bodies.
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  • Holy shit.
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  • What a bummer.
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  • It's a miracle.
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  • I didn't mean to kill you.
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  • There will be blood if you're seven years old.
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Key Moments

  • Greed and Betrayal00:51
  • Hometown Story03:27
  • Creepy Neighbor20:14
  • Kid Ideas22:33
  • Health Department Called22:50
  • Teacher Blame24:05
  • Science Fair Safety24:19
  • Blood Involved24:20

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