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Hi, and welcome to My Favorite Murder. The Minisode episode. The Minisode of episodes.
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It's the tiniest of all episodes in Minisode. little cute one little ones where we read you your tiniest emails that you've sent to us yay
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yay do you want to read them hometown or let me know sure this is pretty good the subject line is
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my mom survived cleveland in 1978 greetings and salutations to all humans and animals associated
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with the mfm brand well done my sister introduced me to your podcast six months ago ever since i've
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been nothing but binge listening laughing out loud at work and checking every closet in my apartment
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when I get home at night. I grew up outside Cleveland, as did both my parents, and my mother worked
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at a convenience store in Willowick, Ohio, called Lawson's, when she was in her early 20s.
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It could be Willowick. It could be Willowick. It could be... Offer all of them. Willowick.
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Willowick. One night in 1978, she was closing up the store with her co-worker, Bonnie,
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because it was 1978. Everyone's name was Bonnie. Why aren't there Bonnies anymore?
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There is a Bonnie Conover, who I went to grammar school with, and she still lives in Petaluma,
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and we talked to each other on Twitter. But she's had that name forever. I want a new Bonnie.
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She's the original. Oh, you want a new baby Bonnie? I want a Bonnie that was born in the 2000s.
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If you have a Bonnie born in the 2000s, we'd love to see a picture of her. Yeah.
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Even if it's a dog. A bunny? A bunny named Bonnie? Oh, also, we love pictures of bunnies.
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A bunny named Bonnie. If you have a picture of a bunny named Bonnie that's one of those really big ones,
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that's like the size of a six-stringer. It's like a hare, not a rabbit. So actually, we just want the one picture.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bonnie the bunny, that's huge. Please. That's got to be a hashtag.
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Okay. Okay, so Bonnie and the mom are at the Wallowick Lawsons. Okay. They're closing up when two men come in
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wearing black trash bags from head to toe. My mom says that she initially thought
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it was two neighborhood teens, They would come in from time to time trying to play a prank on them because it was 1978.
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One of the men was holding a revolver and ordered my mom and Bonnie to open the register and safe and then lay down face down on the floor with their hands at their sides.
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They emptied the cash register and then stepped over the women to get to the safe.
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The whole time, my mom was silent while Bonnie was hysterically praying out loud.
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Bonnie, keep it down. Bonnie, be cool. at some point said quietly to my mom that she was quote glad she had already mopped the floor
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just handle it like a bonnie um they handling it like a bonnie is a new one they stayed like that
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until they heard another customer come in asking if anyone was in the store apparently the two men
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had left out the back exit while the ladies were up front laying on the recently mopped floor the
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police were called but as far as my mom can remember no one was ever arrested for the robbery
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she and bonnie got a whopping 25 each from lawson's what because they ssd'd during the incident
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97 today in today's money lauren wow that's give them the full hundred lawson's they really took
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one for you they took one for the team bucks i think nowadays you there's like maybe she's in
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los angeles but i think there's like a victim of a violent crime fund that you like because
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I knew a girl who got held up at gunpoint at like a salon she worked at. Like she was a receptionist and she was closing up and got held up at gunpoint and like got all this money.
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And she was just like, I'm traumatized. So I don't know what to do with this. It feels wrong.
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Oh, you know. Well, yeah. Everything about that would be so hard because you lived and it OK But then it not OK But I think she used it to go to beauty school and then became a a talented hair stylist herself fuck yes yeah so good for her i mean bad things
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are seeds that bear fruit into good things what good fruit you know that good good fruit yeah
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grapefruit the best fruit great great grapefruit the greatest eat it with bonnie
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that is a very 70s fruit with a maraschino cherry in the center come on dieters um well here's another gas station one i survived because i had to pee dear karen georgia steven and
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cache of critters nice i'm not sure if you're all doing i survive stories but who could resist one
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where a pea-sized bladder saves the day back in my mid-20s i had construction job where i ran a
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crew of 15 guys where we traveled all over and were in a different city or state every couple
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of weeks. As the leader of this motley crew, I was responsible to arrive at our hotels ahead of time
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to make sure that the hotel had enough rooms, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I spent many hours
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in my car alone, crisscrossing the states, usually on the same highways. As a precaution to stay
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sexy and not get murdered, I tried to make stops at the same places as often as I could so I know
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my surroundings. On this particular day, I pulled into one of my usual gas stations and made my
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My typical run to the restroom. I had a sense of something not being right. Lots of cars with no people in sight.
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But my urgency was so great, I ignored it. I plowed through the front doors. And as I turned towards the corridor that led to the restrooms, I heard a man yell,
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Stop right there. I didn't even acknowledge him and kept going. Yes, yes. Let me break in just to say, just because someone's yelling doesn't mean you have to respond or be a part of it in any way.
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Yes. Yelling can also mean get the fuck out of there. Yes. Okay. He yelled stop again and replied and I replied with a fuck you as I entered the locked door and entered and locked the door.
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As I dropped my pants with much relief and when I suddenly heard pounding on the restroom door and heard that same voice yelling at me to come out.
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Once again, I responded with a fuck you. I hurried up and when I finished the door, open the door only to find myself face to face with an angry man who pointed a gun straight in my face.
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He grabbed my arm, forcing me in front of him and told me to walk to the front of the store.
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Well, that sense of something not being right was actually me walking smack dab into the middle of an armed robbery at the gas station.
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And all the customers and employees, except the one we were, except one, were being held in the back room with one employee opening the cash registers as I burst into the door.
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Oh, shit. Fear not, as this has a happy ending, obviously, since I'm the one sending this tale to you.
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As the robber was distracted, trying to round me up, the clerk behind the counter had time to hit the silent alarm.
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And as luck would have it, there were police nearby. As the robber forced me to the front of the store, we were met with four policemen pointing guns.
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And dude gave up without a fight. His accomplice decided to rob the gas station with empty guns.
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So, okay. After giving my statement to the police and receiving some free snacks and drinks, I was on my way and on to more adventures.
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Oh, and by the way, while I was at this job, I survived five hotel fires, staying at a haunted hotel reminiscent of The Shining,
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almost sliding off the side of a mountain during an ice storm, almost being dumped and crushed in a garbage truck while dumpster diving,
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and trudging through 12 inches of snow on crutches. Proud to be a murderino, Nicole.
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Fuck, Nicole. That was so enjoyable. I'm so into, we've talked about that before, when people yell across a room at you and
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you're just like, not doing that. I don't need to, I don't need to respond to your urgency.
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Yeah. I used to do that in, when you hang out with comics, as you know, too, when you hang out
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with comics, they like to do across the room bits a lot of the time. It's like, if there's more than eight comics at a bar, people start yelling within 20 minutes.
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And anytime anyone's done that to me, I yell back, I don't do room bits. like don't don't yell across this fucking bar because you want people to know what you're
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saying yes exactly listen and your emergency is not my emergency so if it's your emergency you can
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come over and tell me well and also she had to pee which is priority number one we've all been
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there you have to do it and if you yeah you can't just control people with your voice also what a
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great like just a drop of chaos in the middle of what they thought like this will be our perfectly
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planned robbery this girl just fucking runs in she's like this doesn't feel right anyway
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i've fucking been there man i got it you never ask a gas station if you can pee you just go
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straight for it oh now i've recovered memory of when you disappeared in that door god that scared
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that's what i was thinking about the whole time uh okay go okay the subject line of this email is
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My best friend's dad was Mary Vincent's lawyer. Holy shit. Come on. Hello, MFM boss ladies, pod producing guru, and plethora of pets.
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Over the long weekend, my best friend came home to visit from New York. We met up in Orange County.
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Hey. Sorry. Beige apologies all around. And ended up having dinner with her parents at one of our favorite spots.
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I've always known her dad was a badass lawyer, but I've never really asked about his cases because I didn't want to sound too intrusive.
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While at dinner, he told us that he recently had a meeting to talk about one of his most high profile cases, a case where a young woman had her arms chopped off.
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I swear I must have looked like a crazy person in this tiny restaurant when I squealed.
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Oh, my God, was it Mary Vincent? And indeed, indeed, it was. I have chills right now.
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Right. Her dad went on to tell me that he represented Mary pro bono throughout her case against her attacker and even went with Mary in front of Congress advocating for the no second chances for murderers, rapists or child molesters Act of 1998.
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Amazing I never heard of that I have fucking chills I saying I never heard of that i like did i say it in my story you might have um that amazing okay yeah
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oh when we returned to their home after dinner he showed me photos of him and mary speaking before
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congress and he told me about how mary used to babysit my best friend and how her sons and my
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best friend love to play together as kids oh my god i'm still blown away by the fact that i have
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such a close connection with someone who knows mary it shows how small the world is but it also
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puts things back into perspective that these horrific things happen to real people. And while
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it's so depressing, it's so important to highlight these awful things so that we can try to prevent
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them from happening again in the future. As a 25 year old Angelino, I have to thank you both from
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the bottom of my heart for confirming my love for true crime isn't weird. My neuroses are valid
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and the constant reminder to lock my doors. All the best, Taylor. Taylor. Such a good email, Taylor.
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Oh, that was amazing. Yeah, that's very cool. If you, Taylor, took a picture of the picture of Mary Vinson,
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or I bet Stephen could find one. I'd love to see a picture of Mary Vinson testifying before Congress.
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I would, too. That's, I just, the fact that she did that so bad has to be so incredible.
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And what a great fucking law that should absolutely always be passed. Yes. Fuck you, murderers, rapists, and child molesters.
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Unless you're one of those three things. Oh, no. It's a very special 100th episode.
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I'm here to tell you about my past. Okay, this is called When a Beauty School Student Encounters a Serial Killer.
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Okay. Greetings all. My name is Sarah and I live in San Diego. I actually just got tickets for your January San Diego show
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for Christmas a couple days ago and I'm so excited. I'll be going with my mom who this story is about.
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Guess what happened last week, the other day? It was so much fun. It was really, really good.
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What's up, San Diego? We could feel her presence. We could. Even though I was born and raised in San Diego,
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half of my childhood was spent driving up the California coastline and spending entire summers in Northern California, north of Napa
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Valley, where my mother is from. It sounds like Petaluma to me. I'm sorry. What's up?
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She had quite a few crazy stories about her time in Northern California. And my favorite one is this.
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When my mother was 17 or 18 years old, she went to beauty school in Napa Valley.
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It was a small school that was located on a small one-way street. And if you've ever been to a beauty school, you know that nine times out of 10, they have
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one of those huge glass windows that are floor to ceiling so people walking by could look in,
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see a student doing hair, and possibly come in. As a three-month beauty school dropout,
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I agree with all of this. You get this? I'm here to cooperate this. What did you learn? Did you learn anything that you still remember?
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A little bit. I learned how to do finger waves because it was the 1920s, apparently,
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and they never updated their beauty school shit. Start with the basics. Right. And then just a little bit. I can still cut my bangs pretty well, but that's about it.
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Nice. Okay. My mother was always positioned at the very last chair right next to the window.
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Well, one day in the middle of a sunny afternoon, what seemed like the entire Napa Valley police force and surrounding county's forces descended on this very small, very tight little one-way street from all directions.
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There were cars pulling up onto the sidewalks and sirens blaring. Across the street from the beauty school, less than 40 feet from where my weather was standing next to the window, there was a phone booth.
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20 minutes earlier, the Zodiac killer had called the police from that phone booth.
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Oh, my fucking God. Needless to say, the police went in every shop and questioned all the people inside, but no one remembers seeing anything or anyone of significance.
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I always teased my mom that it was the one lone male beauty school student who snuck out the back door and went around to make the call.
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Maybe. She said that they have a scene similar to this scenario in Karen's favorite movie, Zodiac.
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Zodiac. Though that doesn't mean much since he was always calling and taunting police, so I'm
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sure that was an amalgamation of different phone calls. Looking forward to seeing you next month.
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Already happened. I can't wait to hear what stories you come up with. Already did them.
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Did them. Always Sarah. Ugh. God, I don't know why that's so exciting to me. Because if she had looked up at the phone booth.
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Which she probably did and just didn't. There was nothing. I was normal. It's a dude with a crew cut and those army issued black frame glasses.
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Right. How do you go? Amazing. Yeah. Write this down. Yeah. You wouldn't. Also, I'm thinking of the city of Napa in she said it was the 70s, right?
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I think so. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like a tiny town. Tiny. Like this is pre wine boom.
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So Napa is just another little burg over a hill. Yeah. Like it's not big at all.
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I just can't. I it's like I'm weirdly starstruck. It's not healthy. Okay. That's what this podcast theme is.
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Code FLOW15. Trauma nurse, the subject line, sorry, is trauma nurse attempted murder story.
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Oh dear. Trauma nurse attempted. I'm so tired that I can't read. It's truly the tiredest it's ever been in here.
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It's fun. Hey, y'all. I'm finally caught up with all the episodes, and I'm surprised there aren't more stories from first responders or nurses.
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We had a little run there, but yeah, we haven't gotten a lot. Hey, listen, you finally caught up and then you're here to give your complaints?
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You're here to fucking say, here's what's lacking? Here's what's missing in your podcast.
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I mean, thank you for all the feedback. We've seen some shit. That's very true. And most of us have a dark sense of humor.
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Also true. So you better be fucking laughing at me attacking you. This story was a pivotal moment in my nursing career.
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I work in a trauma ICU. I had heard on the news earlier that day in a nearby small town, a man shot his ex-wife, her boyfriend, and his own daughter, and that he was on the run.
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Thankfully, all three lived. Oh, good. Yes. Later that day, the police were on a high-speed chase with him and finally caught up.
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The shooter got out of the car, took his handgun, and shot himself in the head. Wow.
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He did it right in front of the local hospital. So they were able to keep him alive.
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And here's where I come in. Oh, my God. The man was stabilized at the local hospital and transferred to me in the ICU at a larger hospital.
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He had a through-and-through gunshot wound to the head, so no chance of recovery.
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But there was a chance we could still harvest his organs. So I worked on this man to keep him alive all night.
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He was on the ventilator along with other medications to keep him alive. Those with a weak stomach cover your ears.
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Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'll give you a cover your ears pause. Steven, cover your ears.
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Oh, wait. His ears are already covered with headphones. He just burst into tears.
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I can't cover them anymore than I already have. This is just one sentence, so you mute it for five seconds.
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Or say la, la, la really loud. Okay, go. This dude had brain matter coming out of his nose.
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Ew. And we're back. Okay. I was trying to keep alive a motherfucker that had just tried to kill three people, including
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his own young daughter. It was really a bizarre experience for me. That's nursing, though.
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You take care of the best people and the worst. A lot of the worst. I read that so weird.
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That was amazing. A lot of the worst. This man was not an organ donor on his license, but his next of kin, his older daughter, made the decision to make him an organ donor.
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You said scrape that motherfucker clean. Yes. It was a small bit of justice that we were able to help people on the transplant list with his death.
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please become an organ donor. I agree. Yes, please do. We're still in C-mail. That was not me,
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but I agree. I won't go into too many details, but it is very rare that someone who passes in the hospital is even a
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candidate for organ donation. Love you guys and everything you do. Z. Amazing. It's such a good,
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that's such a good point. And you know, it took me so long. I was in my twenties when I became a donor and like,
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just check that little box. Yeah. Because I think everyone thinks of it as superstitious.
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You know, that thing of like, well, as soon as I do it, then I'm going to die. Something's going to happen to me.
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Or it's like, well, that doesn't exist. This world isn't even fucking real. Like everything is fine.
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Just you're going to be a better person. Just like click donor box. Nothing is real.
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Nothing's real. And also it just, there is a way you can be generous past. Right.
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Instead of standing around fearing your own death, you can look at it in a different way,
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maybe just briefly and be like, this could actually be, there are people who need spleens,
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eyeballs, livers and kidneys and livers. Probably. I don't know everything. And you know what else?
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It'll actually help your family after because they'll think of you like not as an asshole as
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you were in your life. I don't know where I'm going. It will make your family stop hating your
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gut. Those stories, your literal guts, because they'll be in someone else's fucking love.
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finally be able to love your guts. Those stories of people who's like kid dies and but they get
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the organs and they go, gotta go meet the person who has their son's heart. Unbelievable. And it's
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like, that's real. That one video where the dad meets the boy with his daughter's heart is like,
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it really is her still her heart. I know. It's the most beautiful thing of all time.
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She lived with it. Okay. Well, here's a good story. Actually for this. My almost murder in
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the stairwell. Hi, Karen, Georgia, Stephen, and furry friends. I work at an office building. You
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would normally need a key card for access. However, our floor was undergoing construction,
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so the security was lax, and there was a number of extra people coming and going for a few weeks.
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I should mention my mother has been embedding safety tips into my head since I was a teen.
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Don't take drinks from strangers. Be aware of your surroundings and parking lots. Don't wear
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a lanyard around your neck. Oh, so someone could grab it. I guess, yeah. And keep your keys in
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between your knuckles, etc. Pay special attention to that last one. Anyway, I I was leaving work one day and took the stairwell, one, because it was much faster than waiting on the elevator,
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and two, I sit at a desk all day and thought I should get a minute of exercise. And then she writes, ha.
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I walked the floor flights down, noticed a middle-aged man at the bottom. I said, hi, excuse me, and motioned for the door because he was blocking it.
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He looked up from his phone, gave me the most creepy look slash stare, and lunged forward towards me, putting his arms around me in a big bear hug.
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Uh-uh. My instincts kicked in immediately. I need him in the balls as hard as humanly possible and proceeded to stab him in the cheek with my fucking car key.
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He yelled, started crying like a little girl and yelled every obscenity possible at me.
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Fucking asshole. Yeah, you're yelling at her. As I ran back up the four flights of stairs in a panic, I got to the reception desk, told her to call security while I dialed 911.
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This was before I listened to the podcast. So my fuck politeness attitude was non-existence.
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what are you talking about yeah you beat the shit out of this guy right there baby don't you worry
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about your fuck well then she says looking back my dainty excuse me was so stupid i should have
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immediately turned around i went back upstairs when i saw someone i didn't recognize but that's
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not true i mean no you tried your best to be a human it turns out this person wasn yeah and so you fucking defended yourself yeah you were acting like how how normal people act with normal people Right And even if you had gotten attacked and raped and hadn fought him off it not you didn
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do anything wrong. I hate everyone so much. Side note, had I not taken my car to work that day, I would have only had a key fob on
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my key chain. But because I drove my husband's car to work, I had a nice chunky key to stab that motherfucker
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with. Yes. Anyway, stay sexy and don't get murdered. Please come back to Orlando soon.
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love Sarah from Florida. Oh, that's an amazing story. Also the presence of mind just to go
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right for the balls in that moment. Because I think a lot of times you just freeze up. I know
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I would. I'm sure I would. Or they would be prepared for the need. That's what I always fear
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is that they're going to be like, I, you know, I imagine kicking someone in the dick daily. Oh,
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and I always imagine that maybe they'll be prepared for it and block it. Be wearing a cup,
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like from their JV baseball team. That's right. Or be a eunuch. Or, you know, then what are they doing?
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What are they doing? I live in Narnia. Okay. In my mind. My imagination is insane.
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Don't forget. You can gouge eyes. Oh, that's something someone, someone said recently,
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because they said in, they teach you this again we have to do Oh my God we have to do a self defense class But they that you don think of it because it so extreme Right But if you have a free hand go right for the eyes nose put a finger up the nose
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So, yeah, poke someone in the eye, right? Like, bink. You get to the eye tissue.
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You get up the nose. You do whatever you can invasively. Don't be afraid to shove a key in an ear.
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I feel like a forehead to a nose bridge would be a great. Yes. Smack that motherfucker on the bridge of their nose.
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That's the Belfast good morning. What the fuck is that? I don't know. I don't know what's going on.
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I wish people greeted each other like that. Boom. In Narnia. Classic headbutton Narnia.
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Okay. Send us your stories at myfavoritemurder at Gmail. And, you know, yeah. And stay sexy.
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And don't get murdered. Goodbye. Bro, from the show last night to this drive, why is it never chill?
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