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Hi, I'm Erin Welsh. And I'm Erin Alman-Updike. And we are the guest hosts of My Favorite Murder.
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Normally, the actual hosts of This Podcast Will Kill You on Exactly Right Network.
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But this week, we are super duper 1000% excited to be guest hosting the podcast that kind of inspired our podcast.
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Yeah, 100%. We both have nervous upper lip sweats. But we're really excited because Karen and Georgia were a huge inspiration to us in starting our podcast.
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And we still pinch ourselves every time we realize that we are a part of the Exactly Right Network.
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Yeah, it's been a complete dream come true. Like, I can't believe that this is our life now.
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It's unbelievable. And so, yeah, we're super excited to kind of get the chance to re-listen to some old
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episodes and kind of get back into like, okay, this is what inspired us to start podcasting.
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This is what we would talk about constantly. Did you listen to the latest one? Did you?
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Yeah, it was really fun to go back through old episodes. So we're excited to bring you our favorite Karen and Georgia stories.
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So our first pick is a Karen pick. I got to pick this one. I'm very excited because I've always considered myself a Karen.
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You're totally a Karen. I'm definitely a Georgia. A hundred percent. So I feel like this was appropriate. And also, this is just one of my favorite all time stories from My Favorite Murder. And it's not even about a murder. It is actually The Incredible Survival of Jennifer Morey, episode 33.
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and I picked this one because it's something that I actually couldn't listen to it the first time
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that it aired. I was too nervous. I was too scared because it taps into all of my some of my biggest
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fears. Yeah. Like, you know, single woman living alone, someone that you thought you could trust,
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but, you know, suddenly becoming a threat. But then when I finally listened to it,
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it rapidly became like one of my all time favorites because Jennifer is like, The way that Karen tells the story is so incredible, first of all.
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And second of all, it is such a story of like strength and resilience and like fighting back.
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And I just love that so much about it. But the real clincher for me, I think, is didn't happen until several episodes later.
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I think episode 95, when Karen and Georgia included a story from a live show that they did in Dallas, where Jennifer Morey comes on stage at the end and talks about like how wonderful it was that Karen told the story and how how much she's been like inspirational to all of these people that have, you know, like be prepared and don't be afraid to, you know, put up a fight, stuff like that.
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And so every time I listen to that, it just brings like complete tears. And so I was like walking this morning and listening to the live show part of it and
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just like wiping away tears like, no, I'm fine. I'm fine. So it was a real it was a real strange to say like pleasure, but it was really great
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to kind of get to re-listen to this. And I'm excited to share it with you guys. So this week, I'm going back to my tried and true, which is I'm going to retell you one
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of my favorite episodes. if I survived. Well, I never I've never seen the show. So please do. And this one I love because
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this plays on if you if this if you have some home alone as a young lady fears this is going
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to cause some problems. So spoiler alert, trigger alert, scary, scary alert. No, no,
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It has all these pieces And the first time I saw this on I survived I was like gripping the couch I was so freaked out So essentially it goes a little something like this It April 15th 1995
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And a young, bright, beautiful, successful 25-year-old young lawyer named Jennifer Morey
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goes out and has a drink with her friends after work one night. Big mistake. her fault. Um, she goes, she's at the local ale house. All her friends are there. Um,
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she doesn't want to go at first. They convince her to stay. Then she ends up having a great time
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and, uh, she stays until midnight. Then her friend drives her home and, um, she, uh, lives
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in an apartment complex called Bayou Park in Houston. And the reason that she picked this
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apartment complex to move into was because it was all about security. And it had not just like,
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you know, the apartment security guards, they actually hired Pinkerton security guards
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to work at this place. So they go back in time? That's still a thing. No, they've been around. That's how long they've been around. It's still like a major company.
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um so and that name means a lot to people in security so uh that's why she picked that
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apartment building to live in so she goes home at midnight goes in let's say she washed her face
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which is what you should do before you go to bed ladies um so she goes in gets ready for bed goes
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to bed turns out all the lights wakes up at 4 a.m there's someone on top of her no yeah yeah get
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ready for this no it's going to be this the whole time scared so there's someone straddling her
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and she can feel something on her neck and she realizes is it a puppy someone no it's not she
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realizes someone's broken into her apartment and they're uh attempting to rape her she's she can't
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figure out if she's dreaming at first it's that horrible in between feeling she finally when she
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becomes fully awake and she realizes someone's straddling her um they've got a knife to her
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throat and they're going to rape her she just starts fighting good for her so she does everything
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she can she she fights this guy she grabs the knife it's all the stuff uh all the crazy shit
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and she's fighting him so hard that he cuts her from the cheekbone to the middle of her neck and
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he slices her neck open um so she keeps on fighting but suddenly it gets very slippery
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and there's blood everywhere and um finally she starts losing blood and like the fight goes out
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of her he takes her by the hair oh no and he pulls her across out of the bed across the room
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throws her into the bathroom and says you stay in here and you do not move and he slams the door
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and so she she throws her back up against the door in the bathroom she grabs a washcloth and
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she puts it up against her wound pressure constant pressure when you have a wound like that
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um oh my god oh my god she throws her feet up against the wall and she's like jammed herself
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there so he can't come back in yeah um and then she sits there and waits and listens and she hears
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him zip his pants up and then she wait and then she hears the door close and then she waits a
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little bit longer to make sure and then she goes to open the door and she can't open the door because
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there's so much blood on her hands that she cannot get a grip on the door and she's pulling at it and
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pulling at it. And then she actually says in the story, she actually started laughing because she
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was like, Oh, this is how I'm going to die. She's one of us. I get stuck. I get stuck in the bathroom
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and that's how I can't get help. So finally she gets out. She yanks the door open. She gets out.
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She fumbles to throw on the hallway light. The lights are dead. Oh my God. She crawls. She gets
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So the phone, phone's dead. No, no, no, no. Yeah. So then she finds her cell phone.
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It's live. She brings it back into the bathroom and she calls 911. So that night, a man named Richard Everett was working, was the dispatcher.
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He had just gotten onto his shift. Oh my God, heroes. They're all heroes. His night shift.
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So this is 4 a.m. when this started. so uh so i guess he was starting a very early morning shift then mid maybe middle of night i
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don't know um so she explains to him what's happened and he just starts telling her you're
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going to be fine just try to stay calm don't talk that much we just keep it the cops and the ambulance
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are on their way right now they're going to be there really soon you know we could listen to this
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right now and you're gonna be fine there's no fucking way i would ever listen to it i know
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um and she's saying i'm bleeding so much you please make sure they hurry whatever and he's
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like they're they're coming there as fast as they can just hold that washcloth you're gonna be okay
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oh my god and so after like 10 minutes he's just talking her down and she's actually starting to
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calm down and she's feeling okay there's a knock at the door no no no so she's like there's someone's
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knocking at the door and he's like, who is it? And she goes, well, hold it. So she yells from
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the bathroom. Who is it? And he says, this is Brian Gibson, the security guard that's on, on,
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uh, um, duty tonight. Um, I just got attacked by a guy who jumped off your balcony. Are you okay?
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Is that true Is it true And she doesn know So she like he goes are you okay You should let me in and she goes I okay Um I talking to 911 right now And the dispatcher on 911 goes wait what going on And she goes no it okay
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It's the security guard. He wants me to let him in. And Richard Everett for no reason, except for
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gut goes, do not let him in the door. And she goes, no, it's Pinkerton security. That's the
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whole apartment like that's the whole setup here and he goes he he said here's the thing we haven't
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notified security at your apartment complex yet so unless they have a police scanner
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yeah but if you saw someone jumping off that doesn't matter he what is he gonna do we don't
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know about that story yeah but he goes we just don't know what that is yeah so just don't let
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him in yeah so she's like i'm not gonna let you in right now and the guy's like it's i swear it's
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okay. I'm here's my badge. You know, like he's, he's like, I just need to help you. Are you,
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you, you know, are you bleeding? There's blood out here. Um, you know, I want to make sure that
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you're okay. And she's like, I'm fine. Um, the cops are on their way. And he's like, I know I
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can hear the alarms. You know, I know CPR, I can help you whatever. And, and, and he goes,
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I'm sorry. I just, the dispatcher says to Jennifer, I just don't think you should let him in.
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and she's like okay i'm really scared though i'm starting to lose blood i'm getting lightheaded
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like what if i what if i pass out and i'm in here and the door is locked they kick it down
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um and so he's just he just keeps talking to her and he's like just listen to the sound of my voice
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i'm watching the cops drive up the street they are three minutes away you just have to hang on
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for three more minutes and meanwhile the guy's like jennifer can you talk to me are you okay
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you know can you just let me in and um so he wouldn't if he was supposed to be there he wouldn't
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be so insistent he would you know what i mean like well but it's a woman who's bleeding and
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there's blood it's like clearly there's a scenario now if you were a security guard yeah and you knew
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a woman had just gotten attacked with a knife you would kick the door down and she's in there
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bleeding out and freaking out and not letting anybody help her you might kick the door yeah
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so but richard's like i don't know so just don't do it well then the knocking starts getting harder
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he's like you need to let me in here and she then she's starting to freak out because now
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she doesn't trust anybody she has no idea what to do but then suddenly she hears the um the sirens
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in the background so she knows the plate and he's like do you hear the sirens they are they're coming
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up the driveway road she's like yes and he goes so the ambulance is there like you are going to live
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you're fine so just keep that door shut and you will be fine well the knocking stopped oh my god
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oh my god oh my god it's totally silent outside of the door so now she's more scared because she's
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like what the fuck is it yeah when the cops pull up to this apartment complex this security guard
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brian gibson meets them out there and he is a mess he is bleeding from his right hand there's blood
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on his face there's blood on his uniform sure and he tells the police his story that he walked up
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he saw a guy he jumped down from her second story balcony and attacked him they got into this fight
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and the guy ran off into the woods like into into a field over on the side and he didn't see where
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he went and then he went up to check on the lady who will not let him in who's freaking out all
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right so the cops are like all right stay here sounds good they start to check everything out
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there's no trail into the grass is dewy because it's 6 a.m. Yep. No, nothing. So they're like, get that guy and put him in a room over there.
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Fuck yeah. They go up to Jennifer's apartment. The ambulance has already taken her away.
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Okay. She's going to live. Oh my God, okay. Because the show is called I Survived.
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She told the story herself with a big old scar on her neck. She's gorgeous. This woman is like gorgeous and a lawyer.
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So she's killing it. Yeah. the cops go into her apartment. There's blood everywhere.
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There's also a Pinkerton hat and there's men's underwear on the ground and a knife.
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So they pick up all this shit and they go back down to Brian Gibson, the security,
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the Pinkerton security guard that works there. How is that in there? And they say,
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can you take your shirt off please? And he's like, no, I know it's fine. I was actually the one that was attacked.
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They're like, take your shirt off. There's claw marks all over his body. He's not wearing underwear.
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Nope. he has shaved his pubic hair no pubic hair meaning no hair left behind that's exactly right
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and he doesn't have a hat because he was the person the security guard at the apartment
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building where she lived did he have keys to everywhere was well he didn't have uh oh yeah
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he must have had keys to get into her house because that's why yeah or some key or he could
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of like i mean he had total access yeah oh sorry shit that was the most upsetting thing that i read
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is no no but i just forgot it it's he was calling her by her first name when he was talking to her
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before he when he was first on her um which i think is one of the other the other reasons she
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got so freaked out and fought so hard is because it's like what the fuck is going on guess how much
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i'm sleeping tonight zero but she survived it turns out yeah so um they arrest him they uh
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he gets 20 years for attempted murder man what the fuck and he's on parole now what no i'm gonna
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fucking in Texas. Jump off my second story balcony. He's on parole in Texas. When is attempted murder going to be treated like what it was intended to be Like murder you mean Murder Right That is so troubling to me that it like well you didn get away with it so you not gonna because she lived right simply
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because she fought so you you don't you don't deserve the punishment of what you were intending
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to fucking do well and also the cops are positive that if she had let him in when he came back the
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next time to quote unquote check on her he would have killed her and picked up all his shit he left
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totally there's that is absolutely there the cops are positive that's the reason what's the name of
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the guy the uh the 901 dispatcher did he richard everett all of the ribbons and whatnot they're
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still friends to this day he went to her wedding yeah oh my god yeah they're they're close friends
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i'm gonna cry yeah and she talks about him when in her episode of uh i survived she the way she
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talks about him is like one of the sweetest things you've ever seen can't deal with because
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he in the worst moment of her life like saved her life essentially in that way that like
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beautiful things happen to hideous fucking things and she went on to become the trauma support
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the director of trauma support services of north texas gorgeous and she i read a thing she went
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around spoke i mean it was 2015 i think when the article what the article is from 2013 or 2015
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she was going around speaking at schools and telling people horrible things happen in life,
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but it's all about what you're prepared, how you're prepared for them. And basically she gave
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this talk that was kind of like the stuff that we talk about, which is like running scenarios and
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thinking about these things can actually help you not panic and not completely lose it when
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something really upsetting happens because you've kind of run a scenario, you know where your cell
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phone is you you have things planned you know where flashlights are like you have things planned
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out a little bit so you at least can put a plan together it's a good way to like uh to make sense
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of your anxiety and that like well maybe someday this anxiety or this thing that me thinking about
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these awful things happening is going to make me better in a in a situation where I need to not
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fucking panic because I've already run the scenario through my head or yeah and also it can take away
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from that. Like you don't need to beat yourself up for thinking about it. You don't need to tell
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yourself you're crazy for thinking about it. You're smart for thinking about it and you're
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empowered for thinking about it. And you you're taking action. It's not you know, you don't have
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to live in it and shut the door. You go out in your life knowing that you are armed with information
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and having an awareness and a security that you, you know, you've done as much as you can with your
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anxiety to prepare yourself, but you're not letting it take over your life. Yeah. And get in the way
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like you're never you're not going to never leave the house again because you're aware of all these
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fucking terrible things that happen. Well, and also it's like this isn't a story about how all
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security guards are evil. A lot of them do just as good shit as Richard Everett, the 911 dispatcher
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did. A lot of them have, you know, good and that good intentions of I took this job because I want
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to help people for this exact reason. But you take it on a case by case basis. Yeah. So if you meet
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a person, you get the weird feeling in your gut. Absolutely trust yourself and just get out of
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there. You know what I mean? You don't, that's, that's what all that's about. It's like to the
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individual. Arm yourself with knowledge, but don't let that overwhelm you. Yeah. And also take a
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break every once in a while. And like the other day, some girls, like I had a, she tweeted, I had
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a hard day at work. I'm going to drink wine and watch I survived. And I wrote back, drink wine and
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watch Bob's Burgers. If you already had a bad day, relax. That's a great suggestion. Take a break.
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Watch fucking Rosemary and Thyme where it's a lot of nice flowers, a lot of great accents. It's chill.
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You can't don't live in it like like visit and then and then go somewhere else for a while.
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That's a beautiful take it. Have a glass of wine and watch Bob's Burgers is like Bob's Burgers is
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the oh my god it makes me so happy it is the most a perfect show it's positive it's a family that
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loves each other that's funny that that isn't perfect at all and it's hilarious relatable my
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six-year-old nephew is obsessed with bobsburgers the songs they write for that show my god are the
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best comedy songs there are yeah it is my favorite how they come up with those every episode boggles
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my mind whoever their musical i should look it up right now whoever their musical director is
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fucking straight up 1000 props yeah um that's and that's karen that was you tell those stories
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so well it's almost like i'm not cheating yeah when i am are you i wouldn't know this is a podcast where some of the time i just retell tv shows i've
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one but you say that but you tell them you don't read them that's true because i've seen that one
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jennifer's i've watched probably five times because she tells it it's it's so compelling
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she's she's so real she's upset at certain points she's very angry and like very self-righteous at
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certain points it's a fucking awesome thing to behold she's a great survivor you tell it to me
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like we're at a party together whereas like if i did mine it would be like so many missing
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elements of it because I can't remember half the shit that like I have to kind of like go off my
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own notes which I don't copy and paste but you know I lead with them right yeah but I mean I'm
00:23:47
just copying her her story I mean that's that's stories though you just yeah that's how I learned
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to tell stories is just both of my parents that's all they did yeah it's like we're sitting by a fire
00:23:59
yeah Two cavemen. Two cavemen sitting by a fire. Tales as old as time. The only thing we have to eat are cookies.
00:24:09
Oh. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was.
00:24:15
Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Dani Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets.
00:24:26
And just then, we felt the plane turn in the air. So much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle.
00:24:35
Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy. How it shapes our identities and relationships.
00:24:42
And how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything.
00:24:52
and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move.
00:24:58
And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him.
00:25:03
Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:25:11
I'm Anna Navarro, and on my new podcast, Bleep with Anna Navarro, I'm talking to the people closest to the biggest issues
00:25:18
happening in your community and around the world. Because I know deep down inside right now,
00:25:22
We are all cursing and asking what the bleep is going on. Every week I'm breaking down the biggest issues happening in our communities and around the world.
00:25:33
I'm talking to people like Julie K. Brown, who broke the explosive story on Jeffrey Epstein in 2018.
00:25:39
The Justice Department, through we counted four presidential administrations, failed these victims.
00:25:45
Listen to Bleep with Adam Navarro on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:25:52
10-10 shots fired in City Hall building. How could this have happened in City Hall?
00:25:57
Somebody tell me that. A shocking public murder. This is one of the most dramatic events
00:26:02
that really ever happened in New York City politics. I screamed, get down, get down.
00:26:09
Those are shots. A tragedy that's now forgotten and a mystery that may or may not have been political,
00:26:16
that may have been about sex. Listen to Rorschach, Murder at City Hall on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
00:26:22
or wherever you get your podcasts. Wow. See, wasn't that just such an amazing story?
00:26:32
It was. It's still, it's chills every time. Uh-huh. Okay, now it's my turn to pick.
00:26:39
I'm very excited about this one. Georgia tells a lot of my favorite stories, so it was actually really hard to choose my favorite.
00:26:47
But the one I chose for this was The Tragic Death of Mytris Richardson, which is in episode 65. I think it's a classic Georgia telling of a story because it's all of
00:27:00
the things that I love that My Favorite Murder does, I think, really well. One, even though it's
00:27:05
My Favorite Murder, this one, again, is not like a clear-cut murder, but it's the story that centers
00:27:13
the victim themselves. And it's a story about the person that they were and the circumstances that
00:27:17
they were under. It's a story about the system that we exist within and all of the flaws that
00:27:24
we know still exist today. And so I think it's just a really powerful story and a powerful
00:27:30
reminder that even though the story was told many years ago and the story itself happened in 2009,
00:27:36
it's still so relevant. So it's not a fun story and it's not a satisfying ending,
00:27:42
but I hope that everyone enjoys. So this is one I've wanted to do for a while, but it's scary to tackle because it's kind of big it's and it's every time i go back to look into it
00:27:53
it's just like it's a lot okay uh this is this the story of my trees richardson do you know this one
00:28:04
you probably will once i tell you so 7 p.m around 7 p.m on the night of september 17th 2009 24 year
00:28:12
old maitrice richardson pulls her honda civic into the parking lot of joffrey's which is a fancy
00:28:20
pants restaurant on the pacific coast highway do you know what i'm talking about no it's one of those
00:28:25
like joffrey's it's like super fancy pants like on the coast like on the coast in malibu yeah yeah
00:28:32
it's very like it's spelled joffrey not jeffrey you know what i mean um while she's there from
00:28:40
the valet to ordering her food interacting with other patrons her behavior is erratic and bizarre
00:28:47
but she wasn't threatening in any way when the bill came for 89 51 she matrice couldn't pay
00:28:55
so when she was confronted by staff she announced that she had come to avenge michael jackson's
00:29:01
death oh no i know management decides to call the police and they say we have a guest here who was
00:29:08
refusing to pay her bill. And we think she may, she sounds really crazy. She may be on drugs or
00:29:14
something. But Mytreece Richardson wasn't on drugs. She's a 24-year-old smart and beautiful
00:29:21
African-American woman from South LA. She graduated from California State University,
00:29:27
Fullerton, with a Bachelor of Arts in psychology the year before. And at the time, she worked as
00:29:33
an administrative assistant at a freight company, but she wanted to work with children. And at the
00:29:39
time she volunteered as a mentor for at-risk children and worked with kids at a cheerleading
00:29:43
camp. So it's not really known why she was in Malibu though, which was 40 miles from her home.
00:29:51
They think maybe she was visiting the campus of Pepperdine which is right by Joffrey you know to look at the campus But just sorry side note I told my mom when I was a junior in high school that I wanted to go to Pepperdine
00:30:05
because my friend Jen Mason's older sister, Becky, went there. And my mother laughed in my face and said, who's going to pay for that?
00:30:13
Yeah. Because Pepperdine is insanely expensive. Volleyball college on the beach, basically.
00:30:19
It's Tony. It's for the rich. It's for rich people. as is joffrey's which is how you build an 89 dinner for one person i could do that at apple
00:30:33
i mean let's be honest i had a 60 lunch today with vince so let's be let's be realistic here
00:30:40
i swear to god sometimes when i start when i get a pretzel as a as a appetizer i could just eat
00:30:48
nine pretzels do it okay cheese sauce you will i mean that's crucial yeah i'm not gonna eat them
00:30:55
dry what do i look like big and soft and then have like a thing of that cheese sauce am i a monster
00:31:01
mustard i hate when they try to get creative okay i hate when they try to be like this stupid aioli
00:31:08
or whatever oh no no no and then oh like a it's a mustard that's got spicy honey in it
00:31:15
no no just give me cheese sauce like they serve at apple that's all we want we want anyone wants
00:31:22
cheese soup but we can't we know it because a polite society says it's not okay unless you're
00:31:28
in like wisconsin right so give me a bread to dip it in it and be okay fine i'll pretend it's a dip
00:31:33
fine fine fine it's the same thing with onion soup like i just want to eat bread and cheese
00:31:37
yeah with a spoon but fine you can put a little broth underneath it whatever if you need me to be
00:31:42
Okay, sorry. That was a real left turn. Cheerleading camp. So they don't know why she was there, but it seems that she was suffering at the time of a previously undiagnosed manic episode,
00:31:58
which is also evidenced by her Facebook posts recently, which were incoherent and rambling.
00:32:06
She said things like, there are signs everywhere, smile with a smiley face. And then another said, I just want to sleep, lol.
00:32:15
But you know me and my crazy ideas. Let's see where they take me. Smiley face. Yeah.
00:32:20
So that's like. Did she not know she was manic? From what I can tell, no. And her mom, I think they were all very surprised by it.
00:32:29
By the fact that this is, they think that's what happened for sure. But nobody knew what was going to happen.
00:32:35
Yeah. It seems like it was undiagnosed and unknown. I'm sorry to ask this, but when was this?
00:32:40
2009. Oh, wow. Yeah. No, no one listens in the beginning of what year it is. You know what I mean?
00:32:47
It's hard to focus. Yeah. I just get to the story. Yeah. I settle down. I'm still thinking of stuff I said, my story, my thing.
00:32:54
2009. Where were you? You were near 2010. Oh, my God. This is like we picked a theme for this episode.
00:33:01
That's so true. We didn't. That weird chunk of time. We're just like, it's like our periods are synced, but our murders are synced instead.
00:33:09
It's all coming together in the red tent, Stephen. Yeah, Stephen's writing this one down because he's blushing so hard.
00:33:16
He loves a good period joke. Sisters. Sisters. Signs. Three nights after that last post she wrote, she's at Joffrey's going through this shit.
00:33:28
Three LAPD deputies arrive. they call matrice's it's my trees i believe not matrice my trees's great grandmother who offers
00:33:40
to pay the bill but she would have had a fax an image of her credit card which she wasn't able to
00:33:45
do because who the fuck has a fucking fax machine in 2009 don't you hate that yeah so they were like
00:33:51
nope sorry grandma sorry great grandma you can't do this um they search her car and they find a
00:33:58
very small amount of marijuana as well as bottles of vodka and tequila and half a case of beer but
00:34:04
they gave her a field sobriety test and she passed okay so i'm sorry but the officers could have
00:34:12
placed matrice in matrice in an involuntary psychiatric hold based on her odd behavior
00:34:19
but they said that that would require a lot of paperwork and a trip to the hospital so instead
00:34:24
they arrested her on charges of suspicion of not paying for the meal and possession of less than
00:34:29
one ounce of marijuana and they took her to lost hills police department uh-oh i know upon her
00:34:36
arrest her phone purse and money are locked in her car and the car is towed to a tow yard what
00:34:42
why do you gonna need that after well oh lost hills police department again fancy pants police
00:34:52
department and a fancy pants part of malibu like really nice area um it's the same station where
00:34:59
mel gibson was taken after being pulled over for drunk driving and yelling anti-semitic slurs
00:35:04
same station but but they let him keep his purse well well they escorted him from lost hills to his
00:35:12
toad car that because they treat famous and rich people which is what their neighborhood is and
00:35:18
white people remember in the big lebowski stay out of my beach community he throws a mug at
00:35:23
big lebowski's face it's like that yeah yeah and stay out of my beach community it's just like that unfortunately my trees didn't receive the same treatment
00:35:34
as a famous asshole uh my treese's mother called the lost hill station around 10 p.m and all of
00:35:41
these phone calls you can hear on youtube and i fucking listen to them oh no um she's asking if
00:35:46
they're going to book her and release her that night and saying it's dark and she doesn't have
00:35:51
a car and I don want her wandering and she like I come pick her up right now but if you keep her overnight that fine I get her in the morning I just want to know you not going to release her and this woman is you know she clearly upset but she just like i don know what happening i deal with it she a together woman yeah um she the
00:36:10
mother said she's not from that area and i would hate to wake up to a morning report saying girl
00:36:15
lost somewhere and her head chopped off but the deputy assured my theresa's mother not to worry
00:36:21
i can't breathe hold on okay but yet at 12 30 in the morning my trees with only the clothes on her
00:36:31
back and without a purse money or her phone was released into the darkness and cold of the santa
00:36:38
monica mountains why which you and i like let's let's set the stage again from beverly hills to
00:36:44
santa monica mountain in malibu it is fucking remote it's huge houses on a lot of land that
00:36:51
butt up against the santa monica mountains which are not pretty hiking trails they're fucking
00:36:56
wilderness yeah it's scrub brush it's there's no there's nothing commercial around there because
00:37:03
i think that's what they said too is nothing was open at that point all businesses are closed they
00:37:06
close at like six yes and there's it's like even the businesses that are there are really few and
00:37:11
far between it's not like shopping centers and get yeah you have to basically be down in the city of
00:37:17
malibu yeah to be close to anything and the santa monica mountain is where all the mountain lions
00:37:22
live and it's really rocky and hilly i went to jewish camp there and it was totally wilderness
00:37:28
i mean it was not cute yes um it's not the city no it's really not and this is a city girl who
00:37:36
had never been out in the wilderness like this. So all businesses are closed. Public transportation
00:37:42
doesn't really exist out there. You know, they have like bus to the shopping center and back,
00:37:47
but not, you know, real transportation. And she's 11 miles from her car at the Malibu tow yard.
00:37:52
The walk would have taken her up and down hills through a tunnel along the shoulder of a highway
00:37:58
winding through the mountains, which I fucking have driven there and you get carsick just from driving it's a crazy mountain also i'll tell you this from my research 11 miles
00:38:08
just so you know it's 13 miles from beverly hills to downtown los angeles so she would have had to
00:38:15
walk slightly less than that long all the way down sunset that's ridiculous that's a day's walk
00:38:22
um so when her mom calls the next morning she finds out that my trees have been released
00:38:29
and i listened to the fucking message the the call and it's they're blowing the officer is
00:38:37
blowing her off and she's like how long do i have to wait to file a missing persons report
00:38:41
and he's like well wait a couple hours and then call us back like they're they're very being being
00:38:46
very casual and she's like she doesn't know the area she didn't have anything on her what the
00:38:50
hell's going on and they were very flippant about it and we're like let me try to track things down
00:38:56
call me in a couple hours which is like can you imagine waiting for your child for a couple hours
00:39:00
um and then and then she said you know she doesn't know the area and she's in a depressive state
00:39:10
so she probably had some clue you know that something was triggering yeah so at 5 30 that
00:39:16
morning a homeowner in cold canyon which is right next to the actual santa monica mountain canyon
00:39:23
called Lost Hills to say that there was a prowler walking around. He told the dispatcher that the prowler had been sitting kind of sprawled out
00:39:30
on these wooden steps in the back of the house, but had disappeared into the surrounding wilderness.
00:39:35
And other neighbors said that they heard and saw Maitrese either leaving or attempting to enter the man's home,
00:39:42
and that they heard loud screams in a vacant home around the time that she went missing.
00:39:48
But they searched the area and didn't find anything, and later they searched the area.
00:39:53
They called the police. I don't know if they came. That was the last time my trees was seen alive.
00:40:00
She disappeared into the Santa Monica Mountains and for five months, the Lost Hills,
00:40:07
so she disappeared. Super crazy wilderness, gone. With only her clothes that she had on,
00:40:14
t-shirt, jeans, sneakers. So for five months, Lost Hills insisted that there was no surveillance tape of the police station because they wanted to see this you know
00:40:24
like what happened when did she leave what state was she in but they miraculously found the tape
00:40:29
five months later sitting on a desk um according to my teresa's mother the tape shows her daughter
00:40:37
in an obvious psycho an obvious psychological distress inside the intake towel uh self she
00:40:43
clutches quote she clutches at the mesh screening and is rocking side to side like a small child
00:40:48
says a cousin of hers but a spokesperson for the department said about releasing her
00:40:53
she exhibited no signs of mental illness or intoxication she was fine she's an adult
00:40:59
okay but you don't let them go without a fucking wallet or cell phone yeah none of this makes sense like it doesn't add up is she an adult then then what's like
00:41:13
then why are you treating her why would you lock her purse away yeah and not answer questions to her
00:41:19
parents okay don't worry it gets worse okay like it always does so the station log shows that my
00:41:28
trees made four phone calls to her grandmother but at&t phone records don't reflect those calls
00:41:33
for whatever reason um so the surveillance tape also shows a deputy leaving the station right
00:41:40
after my trees was released like leaving towards where she was going um but the deputy maintained
00:41:46
that he wasn't at the station before the tapes were released he said he wasn't there that night
00:41:50
then when he was caught in his lie he stated the night this nonsense happened i was one of the guys that kept away from this minding my own business which is like what that insinuates that something was going on that you kept out of Yes
00:42:06
Well, also, it's your job to be at the police station and take care of the people that are at the police station.
00:42:14
That's not nonsense. Right. That's your job of a person's in distress. This isn't this is a person that is in mental distress.
00:42:23
Well, the nonsense could have been, you know, the actions police took when she got there, whatever happened to her there.
00:42:32
If anything happened to her there, I'm speculating. So that's the nonsense he could have been talking about.
00:42:37
You know what I mean? So it wasn't until three months later, January 2010, that Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department conducted.
00:42:45
So three months later, conducts one of the largest scale searches in the history of the department.
00:42:50
Over 300 volunteers trained in search and rescue participate in the 18 square mile search of the area of Malibu Canyon and the hills of Malibu Creek State Park.
00:43:01
They find racially and sexually offensive graffiti on the walls of a culvert in the canyon.
00:43:06
The graffiti was freshly painted and the paint cans, brushes and other potential evidence was left at the scene.
00:43:12
And Matrice wasn't found. finally almost a year after she disappeared from the station in august 2010 park rangers who were
00:43:22
looking to see if marijuana growers had returned to dark canyon they stumble on my treesa's naked
00:43:27
mummified body she was in a very secluded creek bed in malibu canyon with the clothes she was
00:43:34
wearing the night she disappeared scattered around oh so they were had been taken off yeah
00:43:40
or she took them off now here's the most fucked up thing okay okay deputies by protocol should
00:43:47
have waited for the coroner to arrive so that my teresa's remains could be photographed the site
00:43:52
inspected for clues and the crime scene established instead against orders by the coroner who later
00:43:58
said that he quote was very clear with officials the deputies bagged richardson's remains and
00:44:05
airlifted them by helicopter whoa before the coroner could even get there whoa this is okay the coroner said that he could not think of another case in which police agency
00:44:16
had moved entire skeletal remains without coroner's approval to prove this point months
00:44:22
later my treese's mother to so i can so this is proof my trees how badly it was done my treese's
00:44:29
mother was visiting the site where her body where her daughter's body was found and found a finger
00:44:33
bone that belonged to my trees left behind in the dirt oh my god i think there's an article
00:44:39
that they're with her and they find that that's that's insane finds in the spot oh look and digs
00:44:47
out a fucking finger bone that have been left behind because the proper people didn't did they
00:44:53
eventually prove it really was hers yeah it was her for sure um and there have also been small
00:44:59
toe bones finger and vertebrae found left behind and also the bones from her neck there's bones
00:45:05
from her neck foot and hand missing from you know her body her remains so what yeah the fuck this
00:45:15
was such a crazy case because i i followed it step by step so her leaving i was like what happened
00:45:20
and everyone was like what could have happened to her and then you see the video the surveillance
00:45:24
video and you're like oh that's some shady shit then they find her body and then the bones are
00:45:29
fucked it's just like it just keeps getting worse yeah um so the disturbance made it so that the
00:45:37
coroner was unable to determine how she died right i think that would be the idea right and
00:45:43
the jeans belt and black bra that were discovered a few feet from her body they were found but they were not tested for signs of foul play and were buried along with her
00:45:55
So they weren't tested for any DNA, any, you know, ripping or anything that would have.
00:46:01
Uh huh. This is like that thing. It's it just reminds me of like it where you don't know what things you need to be in place until you realize they're not in place.
00:46:13
So it's like once a coroner tells people don't move that body and the police airlift the body away, shouldn't then those police be frozen in no longer they're no longer active duty in this case because they're clearly hiding something like there should be protocol for the coroner to then go to some other police chief.
00:46:36
Yeah. And this is where, so this article I was going to, I got a lot of info on. It's a Newsweek article by Alexander Nazarian, who this article is really great because he talks a lot about the LAPD corruption and why this could have taken place.
00:46:51
And there were like rampant racism that was going on at the time to a point where, you know, the second in command is going to prison for 15 years because of corruption.
00:47:02
so it's incredibly corrupt there's like you know rampant anti anti rampant racism and so he tells
00:47:13
i don't talk about a lot in this but he tells background of why this is so obvious and you
00:47:19
know could have happened this way when you and i think most people that are into true crime watched
00:47:25
the um the espn 30 by 30 of jay simpson yeah that part uh of the daryl gates era of the lapd was so
00:47:39
shocking and eye-opening to me and it going all the way back to the riots in the 60s um
00:47:46
it it's just so crazy how long this has been a humongous problem in los angeles that has never
00:47:55
that hasn't been solved or even really addressed. No, for sure. And it's not happening anymore.
00:48:03
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in LA and I'm sure a lot of other cities specifically the cards are stacked against
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you if you're not white and you don't have money yes and you're you know the cards are stacked
00:50:34
against you you're not you don't start at zero sum yes at all yeah and I yeah I don't you know
00:50:43
I don't want to forget that as someone who lives here and knows that I'm fucking privileged as shit
00:50:50
to be wearing at well and also just we don't have to think about totally how bad it could be i mean
00:50:56
this is like this is like saying you can't be mentally ill or you will just be almost literally
00:51:03
thrown to the wolves right it's insanity yeah and what did happen to her at that police station yeah
00:51:08
then it opens up that whole door the mental illness thing is incredible because it's like
00:51:13
You should have taken her and admitted her for psychiatric treatment because she was mentally unstable and unsound to make her own decisions.
00:51:23
And not only did you not do that and keep her in prison or keep her in jail until her mother could come or someone could come, you let her out without money, without a jacket, without any.
00:51:35
You knew she wasn't going to get anywhere. It's not like she could have hitchhiked.
00:51:39
Or maybe she did hitchhike. And that's what happened. But they're still culpable.
00:51:42
right well yeah also what's the if you know see that's the thing is this isn't just a random person
00:51:49
that they don't know and like well too bad for you and you're an adult yeah there's someone
00:51:52
contacting you telling you what the situation is telling you there are concerns and you still do
00:51:58
the thing against that person's wishes yeah that's what makes leads me to believe something else was
00:52:03
taking place because why would you hide why would you say we just let her go and she left and it not our problem she an adult that it makes that feels like cover up it so crazy the mom specifically was like she doesn
00:52:15
know the area and i don't want her to get killed yes but what's so frustrating to me listening to
00:52:20
the tape of her mother calling is like this feeling of nobody like i think a lot about when
00:52:28
you call the cops and they don't help you what do you you can't call the cops again right like
00:52:32
Like that's your last. Yes. That's your last. That's supposed to be the last option is you call the cops and they help you.
00:52:40
Yeah. But it's so sad to be like the minute they told her to wait two hours and she hung up the phone.
00:52:46
I picture her in her house and her family having to wait two hours. Yeah. That's insane.
00:52:54
Yeah. And she's not a runaway. You know, you let you guys let her out. And the minute they're like, oh, shit, then they're culpable and they're open for.
00:53:03
When also it doesn't make sense because it's like, oh, if you're going to treat this person like, oh, they're look, she went to a restaurant.
00:53:09
She ate eighty dollars worth of food and she couldn't pay for it. And we arrested her.
00:53:12
OK, got it. Yeah. All of that makes sense to me. Yeah. It is illegal to do that thing.
00:53:18
And there but there then you learn there are extenuating circumstances. and it so clearly it wasn't that big of a crime to you if you just released her the next day
00:53:29
so you didn't there this isn't you're not holding her for a robbery or what would that be you're
00:53:36
not holding her that's not stealing well when i when i was a teen it no like in seventh grade and
00:53:43
got caught stealing you know they give you a ticket like they ticket you like cop would yeah
00:53:49
and you move on you know yeah it's like well why didn't that just happen well it's because they've
00:53:54
searched her car and found you know but then they're not holding her for drugs they're not
00:54:01
no because she took a sobriety test and she passed yeah fuck it doesn't it's just like you can't you
00:54:09
can't justify the police action in this because it nothing is adding up to this is a criminal and
00:54:18
So we treated her like a criminal. It's like, you know, this is a person, this is say a criminal who ate $80 worth of food that she couldn't pay for in a manic episode where people do way crazier shit than that.
00:54:33
Well, yeah, we talked about Elisa Lam and how that could have been how she got in the water tank, which, you know, if you compare these two cases, it's like, yeah, you do crazy shit when you're going through a manic episode.
00:54:44
Yes. But also the lost, I feel like you're talking about, we're talking about a police department or a police, yeah, police department, Lost Hills, that deals mostly with rich white people upset about something.
00:54:59
They don't know how to deal with something like this. And so they, I don't know.
00:55:06
Yeah. Yeah. So that, I think that makes a big difference. It's not like it was, you know, the Hollywood Police Department, which also wouldn't have been as big of a deal because if they let around Hollywood, she'd have fucking places to go.
00:55:17
Well, and also I would think that they would be much more used to dealing with people with mental illness.
00:55:22
The Hollywood Police Department. Like there's that one on Wilcox that's just like never not hopping day and night.
00:55:27
There's somebody pulling in or pulling out of that. Because that's my that's my sneak up to get out of Hollywood and go home.
00:55:34
Don't tell anyone the sneaks. Wilcox. That's my sneak. Wilcox. Man. That's like, that's the north-south fountain.
00:55:40
Yeah. Totally. But I mean, like, you're right. It's like, it's almost like a privileged police department
00:55:47
because they don't have that much happening there. So they don't have experience with these sorts of things.
00:55:51
And when they do, it's like some crazily rich, drunk white woman. Or Mel Gibson.
00:55:56
Who's like, fuck you. Or Mel Gibson who, or I think, didn't also they pull over Reese Witherspoon
00:56:02
and she said, do you know who I am? Is that, I bet you're right. I'm pretty sure that happened in Malibu.
00:56:07
But anyway, whatever. That's that kind of thing of like everyone's kind of living up to this certain...
00:56:13
So it suddenly like oh there a black girl that ate food she couldn pay for And she acting a little bonkers Yeah So now we going to treat her like the criminal she is well okay but then that means you would that that would mean process
00:56:27
her in a criminal way that keeps her safe at least that the thing of the mom going please don't let
00:56:33
her go that's just we have to get plumbers so my beautiful new house is now having plumbing problems
00:56:45
is everybody they don't know but i hope that's not a ghost it's just plumbing problems
00:56:52
it just suddenly starts like like it's about to overflow with like fucking with racial tension
00:56:59
all right uh yes all of that is correct they find her body all these bones are missing they can't determine how she died
00:57:13
and then her shit's not tested for foul play okay then there's no explanation given for
00:57:22
why investigators were never able to find her van's sneakers or her t-shirt that she was wearing
00:57:28
when she disappeared so her jeans belt and black bra were there which is like you could be like well animals came
00:57:36
and got them but it's like why would they pick a pair of shoes and a t-shirt and not all this
00:57:42
other stuff and her body wasn't messed with it's not right also i that makes me think of i did
00:57:50
those stories about the deaths on mount hood i mean was no crater lake the crater lake um stories
00:57:56
that i did in portland and one of them there was a guy that they found his body like years later
00:58:03
and it was a skeleton sitting in jeans like jeans don't just come off it's not that animals can't
00:58:11
take your jeans off right right yes um animals can't take your jeans off is what steven's writing
00:58:19
down right now i can tell don't think about what he's sorry sorry sorry sorry we need like a booth
00:58:24
to put him in where we can't see him but also going back to the elisa lamb thing she took her
00:58:30
clothes off too right that's the thing that that happens to manic people yeah and you know i think
00:58:37
another thing people don't understand is how fucking cold it gets in the i know la is like
00:58:41
warm all the time but in the mountains in la and especially in malibu by the ocean you're next to
00:58:45
the ocean really fucking cold it's cold so maybe she was having hypothermia which is a thing that
00:58:50
they take their clothes off but then why wouldn't they have found the rest of them you know traced
00:58:55
her the trail she took and found the other stuff okay um my treason's parents have maintained that
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their daughter should never have been released on her own by the sheriff's department. They filed
00:59:09
several lawsuits against the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department for releasing her from jail,
00:59:14
even though they claimed she was experiencing severe bipolar disorder at the time. In 2011,
00:59:20
they won a civil lawsuit against the county. However, two reports by the Office of Independent
00:59:26
review found the LAPD not culpable for my Teresa's death deeming it was not it was not a homicide
00:59:35
and there was no foul play then why did they airlift the fucking body against the coroner's
00:59:40
wishes and the coroner couldn't say how she died so how can you definitely definitively say it was
00:59:45
a homicide it was not a homicide yeah because yeah you don't gave that report yeah well you
00:59:50
don't have the neck bones to test to see if she was choked to death because you fucking left them
00:59:53
behind yeah it's months later yeah the body has been out there for months yeah sorry yeah no so
01:00:01
i'm yelling at you you're the one that told me the story um and they also clear they were also
01:00:09
cleared of any wrongdoing in how to how it handled discovery of her remains so they were like and
01:00:15
also it fine okay uh sounds great ronda hampton who the woman that alexander uh nazarian from the newsweek article it like kind of goes around with and interviews her um she was a psychologist at one time in an office where Mitrice had interned so she really devoted to finding answers
01:00:37
She's just this really awesome woman. She filed a dozen complaints about the various deputies involved in Mitrice's case.
01:00:45
Nine of these were registered with the Internal Criminal Investigations Bureau, but they are treating them as, instead of, let's see.
01:00:55
They're treating them as service complaints, not matters of potential criminality, which is like they're just belittling them, you know, or minimizing them.
01:01:05
On December 30th, 2016, which is recently, results of the criminal investigation into the handling of Mitrice's case concluded that there was insufficient evidence to support criminal prosecution of anyone involved in the handling of the case.
01:01:19
And either way, the statute of limitations for concealment or tampering of evidence, like the surveillance tapes, had passed.
01:01:29
Wow. The end. I mean, that sucks. Yeah, that's just straight up shit-tastic. And I mean, fuck, man.
01:01:45
It's such a good story, right? It's so important. Yeah. Yeah. Well, again, I am Erin Welsh.
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