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Hello and welcome to My Favorite Murder. The Celebrity Hometown Edition. That's right.
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We know celebrities. They have hometowns. We want to hear them. That's all we want to do.
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And that's all we're going to do for the next, oh, I don't know, two hours and 25 minutes.
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We'll see how it goes. Let's just see how it goes. Wow, it's a short one today. We're really excited for this guest.
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When she said yes, we were like, is she sure? Because we're obsessed. She's obviously an old friend of Karen's,
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an incredible comedian and actress and person. And she's everyone's hero. That's right.
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You've seen her at clubs and colleges all over the country. Please welcome the legendary Wanda Sykes.
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You can't beat the clubs in colleges. You can't. Right? You can't beat that intro.
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That's the best. It's the perfect catch-all. It's the perfect intro. It really is.
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Especially if you can't list out all the credits or if you're not that great of a host and
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you just kind of need to throw something out there that really fits for everybody.
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Right. It's a great one. Right. And Georgia, I think once a woman gets into a certain age bracket,
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you really shouldn't say an old friend. Oh, shit, okay. You know what I'm saying?
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Long time. She's known this bitch a long time. Oh, shit. Because it hit. I don't know.
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Wow. It was a little sting. It was a little. It's just a little. I was like an old friend.
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I'm so embarrassed. I'm so sorry. Let's start over. It's beautiful. No, not at all.
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How about this? A dry friend. Would that be good? The dry, decrepit friend, Karen.
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Just a kind of dusty old friend. I love that. Dusty. She's like the quilt of friends.
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The mothball wrap friend. Mothball time. How's it going lately, Wanda? What's going on?
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Great. Great. Just been super busy, which is awesome. Right now, we're writing season two
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of The Upshaws, the half hour show. Netflix series. Netflix series, yes, with Mike Epps and Kim Fields. Yes, yes. So we're doing season two,
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and we'll start production in December. So busy on that. And also busy with History of the World Part 2
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that I'm doing with the great Mel Brooks. How about that? Isn't that amazing? Seriously?
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Yeah. Yeah, we're doing a series for Hulu. And it's also Ike Barron Holtz and his partner, David Stassen and Nick Kroll.
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So it's the four of us doing this with Mr. Brooks. That is epic. That's epic. I know.
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Are you writing with him? Yeah. Like truly creating this series with Mel Brooks.
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Yeah. Shit. That's incredible. I know, right? Yeah. Yeah. I love Ike Barinholtz.
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He's so smart. Yeah. So funny. Yeah. And a good guy. Yes. Yeah. He's a good guy.
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Yeah. And of course, Nick Kroll is a legend. Yeah. What a group. Great group. Old friends.
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Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Wow, that's a lot. You are busy. That's a lot to be getting done.
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And I've been back in, trying to get back out on stage doing whenever I can do tour dates
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to get ready to do another special. That's great, I saw that. You've got some upcoming shows.
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How is stand-up for you these days in in and out of quarantine? Man, it's hard to get a rhythm.
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That's pretty much how I feel right now. It's the COVID protocols are one thing.
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It like you have to get past that Being on stage whether you see people with masks or without masks or sometimes I go shit it looks like I need to be wearing a mask
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These people look crazy. That guy doesn't have shoes on. What the hell is going on?
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This is not safe. Yeah, so like I said, to me, it's just getting a rhythm. Yeah. But it's also, you know, you're like, oh, you know, this is the material that I'm going to
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do. And if something happens in the world, you got to throw that out. And I need to talk about
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this, you know, so. Yeah. But it's always challenging. I love it. Still love it.
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Yeah. I bet you can really see progress so much more now because it's like everyone's starting
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back as if it's like your fifth year of standup. And then, you know, right. And then hopefully
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you're moving through and getting it up to date quickly. But it's like, I just can't even imagine,
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I can barely even convey my thoughts to you right now, much less trying to make 3,000 people
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understand what I mean and think it's funny. It's a big job. You're right. You're absolutely right. It is that. It's getting the rhythm because it's just trying to,
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how can I make you all understand this? I don't, yeah. And that is a muscle that's been dormant for a while. So it's taken a minute to get all that firing back up.
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Yeah, that's so interesting. I never thought of it like that. Because let me tell you what doesn't work. This is funny, and y'all don't know what you're
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talking about. The audience, they don't like it. They don't like it when you do that.
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If you do a joke and they don't laugh, and I go, you people are awful. That's my whole standup career right there is blaming the audience and walking off angry.
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Yeah. Yeah. Are you doing more middle of the road stuff or stuff that you feel like,
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like do you feel yourself extending yourself to the audience more than you used to have to?
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Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, it's like you, it's with the kind of like the shotgun blast at first, you know,
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I gotta make this so everybody can get a little something out of here. And it's gonna take a while to bring the more narrowed down and the sniper, I guess, get right to it.
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Yeah, of any comic I've ever seen, your jokes, you do take a lot of risks with your point of view and basically saying, hey, this is what I think.
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So I'm saying it, but it's like to basically come out of a quarantine or be doing stand up like for the first time in a long time and then be like the quote unquote in your face material must be or maybe it isn't.
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But like to me, I would imagine it feels a little scarier. Yeah, it does. It does.
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And it's definitely more challenging because like you said, we've all been in this quarantine.
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So people have become a little more jaded and not as tolerant. And they've had all this time to sit behind their little laptops and say whatever the hell they want to say.
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So now maybe what I want to say, they go, I said that months ago. I'm past that woman.
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It's like they're just so much more angrier where I'm like, let's not run right to that.
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Come on, let's ease. I try to ease into it when they're, sometimes I know like, oh shit, they're already there, they're ahead of me.
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Yeah. They wanna go right there. Yeah, they wanna go right there. And I'm like, yeah, but if I go right there, then now we all just angry.
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It's not as fun. It's not as funny. Yeah. Yeah. It's a comedy show. It's a comedy show.
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Yeah. Should we pivot into hometown territory? Yeah. So basically hometown started as us asking people, what's the story in your town?
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It could be true crime or some scandalous thing that happened that changed everyone
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or that everyone talked about around the table. But it's turned into anything you want it to be.
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So like, do you have a badass grandma? Do you have a haunted dorm room? Or I don't know.
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Anything you want to tell that's just this fascinating, weird tidbit. True story.
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True story. Yeah. Okay. It's, man, when I played in Richmond, Virginia, and we stayed at the hotel, this hotel,
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and I'm pretty sure there was a slave visited me in my room. It was creepy as fuck.
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What? What happened? So I was touring and I played Richmond, Virginia and we stayed at the Jefferson Hotel, very historic hotel.
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And they upgraded me and I was in a pretty nice room for like old timey, like staying at your grandmother's house, old timey.
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So I had a great show. Of course, we went out, had some drinks and stuff after the show.
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Saw some friends from college, came to the show. So we got back to the room kind of late, right?
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So I'm in bed watching some TV and murder, of course, watching the ID channel. Yes, have to.
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Yeah. I mean, you know, now that's how I judge hotels, if they have the ID channel.
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Oh, definitely. Yeah, if they don't have that, I'm like, no. No, you got to watch Forensic Files when you get back to your room.
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Exactly. Sure. Exactly. See, that's my fallback. I go to if it not if they don have the ID channel I got to go watch headline news for Forensic Files So I watching some murder right And I just feel something in the room I looking around It feels like somebody in here So I keep watching television And then
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I look over in the corner and there's a chair. And there's a figure. I can't really make out
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the face and all, but it's a figure and it's- Apparition? Cloudy, yeah, yeah, it's kinda like cloudy, this figure sitting in the corner and
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it's just sitting there and I'm looking, I'm like, okay. And I was like, Wanda, you're drunk.
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Get back to your murder. Get back to your murder. Focus on the murder. Focus on this murder.
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You gotta solve, you've almost, I think we know who did. Let's break this case. Don't pay attention to that cloud sitting in the corner.
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So I keep looking and I look over and it kind of like does this. It's kind of like it moves a little bit, right?
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And it kind of leans forward and it kind of goes back. And I look and I'm like, okay, this looks like rags, kind of like drapery type thing.
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It was something, yeah, cloth or something that was just draped. that it was wearing. And I said, okay, I'm just going to just talk to it. And I was like, so hello.
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And of course, it didn't answer back. It just was still sitting there. And I said,
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I said, you, did you like clean up around here or something? Or are you, you know,
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do you have a problem with me being here? Basically, I wanted to see if it was like,
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my ancestors or if it was one of Lee's ancestors or something. So I was- Whose side are you on?
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Exactly, exactly, exactly, right. So I know somebody in there, the South will rise.
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Right. You're like, you have to move me again. I'm so sorry. I have to get out of here.
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So I just get this sense of it meant no harm. You know, it was just warm. It was something like, you know, warm.
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Like I said, it felt like I was in danger. And I'm like, oh, wow, this is a, I just felt like it was a slave.
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It felt like that's the thing, the presence that I got, you know, the sense that I got.
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Like, oh, this was a slave and probably either, you know, worked here or. Yeah. And it just was like, just looking at me, just kind of like, and I was like, you are probably tripping.
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Like, wow, here's this boozy black woman, chilling out with his king in his king size bed.
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Room service, cable TV. Yes, and I just, I thank the president. I just want to thank you for all that you went through.
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All the strength and the pride and determination, everything that we have that. And thanks to you, we owe all this to you and everything that you've gone through.
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I said, we still have work to do, but just thank you. And then it stayed there for a little bit longer.
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And then I was like, so I'm going to watch my murder. I was like, I'm going to go back and watch my murder.
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so you're welcome to stay, but I'm not going to be able to sleep well if you do hang around.
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So polite of you. Yeah, and I just watched my murder, and like a few seconds later, it left.
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All I can think of is how chill you – that's what I would want to be like around Spirit, and then I'd probably just be losing my mind.
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visiting right now. Absolutely. I'd be knocking shit all over the ball. Come on.
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Yes. Throw a vase off the mantelpiece or whatever. She came by trying to scare you and she was like, oh, she's fine. I'll be next door.
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Yeah, yeah. I'm fascinated though by that because I've also had a ghostly encounter one time when I was in college.
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I was also probably drunk myself, but it is a very internal experience. There is something it's very hard to convey like how you knew that that spirit didn't want to scare you or freak you out.
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That it wasn't the thing where you, you know, some people go like the whole room was freezing cold and this and whatever.
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it sounds like it was the opposite sensation for you. Yeah. I mean, when it first arrived,
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there was something like, ooh, what's going on? I don't think it was, I didn't feel like it was cold or anything.
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Plus I was under the covers and all. So I guess it was just like, hey, something runs up your spine type thing
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or your hair raised. Like, hey, something's here. What's going on? Yeah. Yeah, electric kind of electricity or something.
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Yeah, it hit me more like that. And then it was also the thing of you're imagining this is happening.
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I'm telling myself, this is not happening. Then I'm like, no, bitch, this is real.
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It's going down. This is going down. You look at that wine bottle, you're just like, is this full or was it empty?
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Where are we in the wine bottle experience? Did you believe in spirits and ghosts and that sort of thing before this?
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I mean, more skeptic, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And have you had any encounters since?
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Since then? No. Wow. I have not. Not since then. I think because you took care of it.
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Yeah. It was almost like in the moment you were just like, all right, thank you.
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I mean, it feels to me like most movies that involved, say, post-Poltergeists or any kind of haunting or something, that eventually that's what the characters in the movie get to is like, what do you want?
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They're like yelling up at the thing or whatever. So you took all your, having watched Poltergeist yourself or whatever, you took your lessons and just like, hey, if you're here because you want something.
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And I think that's such a beautiful thing to get to be able to say, like, thank you for your sacrifice.
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I mean, I was emotional. It was pretty emotional when it was going down, yeah. Yeah.
00:22:07
I bet. That's amazing. I love that story. Yeah. That's really good. Also, I love to hear, Wanda, that you like true crime.
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I know. I knew that about you. Oh, my God. I love true crime. I had to stop watching.
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I did. Oh, yeah. Yes. Because I thought everybody was going to murder somebody. And I'd be at a restaurant watching a couple.
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And I'm like, oh, my God, he is so going to murder her. I do that to my husband.
00:22:37
So going to murder. Right? You can go, oh, that's a murder right there. Right. Yep.
00:22:43
And do you ever go like, I need to remember what they're wearing because I'm going to have to testify.
00:22:47
Yes. In the trial. Yes. Yes, absolutely. Witness practice. Absolutely. You gotta do that.
00:22:54
And then it also stopped me from being a good Samaritan. It's still like helping people. I'm
00:23:02
gonna go, this is a setup. I'm gonna go over there and try to help them get their car started. Next
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thing you know, I'm in the trunk. And it's like an 80-year-old person, you know what I'm saying?
00:23:14
But you don't know. You don't know. A young person dressed as an old person. Right, or an old, bad old person.
00:23:24
Weirdly strong. Yeah. The worst kind of murderer, a very old but strong murderer.
00:23:31
Very strong. Yeah, that'd be bad. That'd be bad if an 80-year-old person wrestled me down to the ground.
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I'd be like, oh my God. What, you got a Peloton? What the hell? You can't outrun an old person.
00:23:47
You can't outrun an old person. Like, damn. That would be a great horror movie. It's fast old people that want to kill you.
00:23:56
Yeah. That's scary. Yeah. Just a retirement home full of. With just their gums they forgot to put in their dentures.
00:24:06
Like those two old ladies who were killing homeless guys and taking their checks, their social security checks.
00:24:16
Yeah, Dorothea Puente in Sacramento was a very famous one. And she was old too. No one suspected her.
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No one. She got away with it for a long time. Don't trust old people. You were right.
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to believe your instincts. This is one message that Wanda Sykes wants to put out to the world.
00:24:34
Right. Do not trust old people. Don't trust them. Why would you? No dusty, no rye old people.
00:24:43
No people. Yeah. Don't do it. I was telling Georgia about one of my favorite memories of you
00:24:49
was at the wrap party for talk show, the game show. When you started dancing, the dancing started, say it was at 930.
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And you got out on the dance floor at 945 and you never left it. You were having full conversations with people.
00:25:07
You were making fun of other people dancing. You were doing all kinds of shit and you never stopped moving the entire time.
00:25:17
And it was like a full, oh my God, it was truly one of my favorite things that I've ever seen.
00:25:23
You had the best time, but you also were just like people, like, of course, it's Wanda.
00:25:28
So people try to come up and dance with her and she'll do it for a little bit and then make a face.
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And it's like if they weren't good dancers, you would do a whole thing and dance away.
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It was like one of the most joyous, hilarious parties I'd ever been to. I love cutting up a rug.
00:25:48
That's brilliant. I do. I love a dance party. Yeah. In today world how awkward it is to have to learn how to conversate at a freaking party again to just do dancing instead Just dance Right Yeah that a great idea That probably also it Georgia because instead of having awkward conversation just bust the moves
00:26:09
Yeah, exactly. Just get away. Get out of there. Because I think a couple of times people tried to come up and actually talk to you,
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and you just would dance away from them. Yeah. No way. There was also you started doing some Michael Jackson moves with someone's hat.
00:26:25
Oh, boy. I mean, you just had a bunch of stuff up. your sleeve. Oh, that's a good one. So I brought in, I introduced props.
00:26:31
You were like a dance comic, a prop comic. You were doing it all. It was really enjoyable.
00:26:40
You got to do the Sykes next time you're at a party. We all got to adopt the Sykes.
00:26:46
Wait, you used to work at the NSA, right? I did, yeah. That's right. Yeah. Do you have any stories from there? I bet creepy
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shit happened there. You can't talk about it. I can't really talk about it. You can't.
00:26:58
Yeah. Legally bound to not talk about it. Although I'm sure anything that I know is so outdated now, but I'm still, yeah, I can't talk about it.
00:27:09
Oh, yeah. Woo! Okay. I know. Next time you're dancing at a party, I'm going to come ask you about it.
00:27:15
There you go. Some government secrets. And I won't tell anyone. What's scarier, ghosts or the government?
00:27:22
Do you think? Yeah, I got to go with government on that. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.
00:27:28
Nice. Yeah. So you're going back on the road. Should we talk about some of your dates?
00:27:33
Sure. All right. Well, WandaSykes.com for all your upcoming tour dates, December and January coming up.
00:27:39
Yeah, you're on the road. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you've never seen Wanda Sykes live, treat yourself.
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She's going to be in Oxnard and Denver, December 10th, December 11th, respectively.
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She's going to be in New Jersey, Red Bank, New Jersey on January 8th. She's gonna be in Tarrytown, New York, January 22nd.
00:27:58
I would kill to watch you figure out what your next special is gonna be I know That would be the show to watch because there would be some stuff that solid gold But I would love to watch you kind of mess around on stage
00:28:12
Because I've only ever watched you basically do come out and destroy a room at a festival
00:28:19
or when I went with you to Montreal that time. That was so much fun. Yeah, we had a good time in Montreal.
00:28:26
Yeah, we had a good time in Montreal. That was a beautiful trip. Yeah, you put together a wonderful package there.
00:28:33
Yes. That bit you did. That was great. Yeah. Yeah. It was Wanda with the selfie stick going all around.
00:28:40
Wow. It was really good. Yeah, Karen produced it. It was great. Oh, that's awesome.
00:28:45
I didn't know that. Yeah. But also, I bet you're pretty funny figuring out what you're trying to put together, just
00:28:52
in the same way of when you have all your solid stuff together. That is the fun part, you know, is putting it together.
00:28:59
and going up with the notes and just trying to figure it out. And when the crowd is good and they understand the process
00:29:07
and what you're trying to do, that's when it's, oh man, it's so productive and so much fun.
00:29:12
Yep. You know? And when you actually write, if you can write a new joke on stage,
00:29:17
like real time, that's what it's all about. It is. Wow. Totally. Riffing. Totally.
00:29:23
Love it. Thank you so much for doing this with us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
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Yeah. We're so thrilled to have you. We really appreciate it. Excellent freaking story.
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