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I'm Anna Navarro, and on my new podcast, Bleep with Anna Navarro, I'm talking to the people
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closest to the biggest issues happening in your community and around the world. Because I know
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deep down inside right now, we are all cursing and asking what the bleep is going on. Every week,
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I'm breaking down the biggest issues happening in our communities and around the world. I'm
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talking to people like Julie K. Brown, who broke the explosive story on Jeffrey Epstein in 2018.
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The Justice Department, through we counted four presidential administrations, failed these victims.
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10-10 shots fired in City Hall building. How could this have happened in City Hall? Somebody tell me that.
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A shocking public murder. This was one of the most dramatic events that really ever happened in New York City politics.
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I screamed, get down, get down. Those are shots. A tragedy that's now forgotten and a mystery that may or may not have been political.
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It may have been about sex. Listen to Rorschach, Murder at City Hall on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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My favorite murder Hello! And welcome to My Favorite Murder. It's the Minisoad. Hey, hi, Minisoad.
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We're about to read you your emails. Are you ready? Are you ready? You want to go first?
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Sure. This first one, the subject line is Family Titanic Story. Hello, all. My great-grandmother, Rose Hickman, was born as a first-generation Canadian to British parents in 1912.
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The same year, her cousin Louis was engaged to marry a farmer's daughter in Manitoba.
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So he decided to make the trip back to England to bring his two brothers back to live with him and work on the farm.
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On the way back across the Atlantic, they were able to afford three second-class tickets on the unsinkable Titanic.
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None of the three brothers survived. However, Lewis's body was among the victims that were recovered.
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Up until this summer, when I bothered my grandma about it again, this was all I knew.
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However, the story gets juicy. As Lewis was engaged to a rich farmer's daughter,
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they had the means to cart the body back to the prairies to give him a proper burial.
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When the body finally arrived, the family opened the casket to discover that this was not Lewis.
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It was one of his brothers. His brother must have grabbed Louis's jacket and run up to the deck when the ship began to sink.
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The farmer and his daughter decided to just nail it up, have the funeral, and move on.
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My grandma simply said that back in those days, you just had to make do with what you had.
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Wow. Stay sexy and be grateful for whatever corpse you get. Stephanie from Vancouver.
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Wow. I like that as a, you know, a senior management decision that they made. It's like, how awful will it be to make it about that?
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Yeah. Where it's like, oh, you don't even get to mourn the person that you think it is.
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It's like, no, continue on with the plan. No, we're not even going to comment on it moving forward.
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Oh, wow. Wow. Titanic relatives. That's a good one. Yeah. So amazing. Okay, this one's called Awkward Ex Run-In, or is it?
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Hello, murder ladies. Let's just do this thing because just like running into an ex,
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I want to make it short and leave you with that lingering, what just happened feeling.
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Some years ago, I was working as a receptionist at a Kung Fu studio that was in a shopping plaza.
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You probably know it. It's the CVS and Smart and Final one on Hollywood Way in Burbank next to
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Western Bagel. What up, LA murderinos? Hey. Most of the small storefronts in the plaza have
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floor-to-ceiling windows facing the lot. I was closing up that Thursday night around 7 p.m.,
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but it was springtime in LA, so it was still early twilight and there was plenty of light out.
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I've got my back to the huge parking lot as I lock the double doors, thanking the universe
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that I don't have to be back here for a couple extra days as I was about to have a long weekend
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and ladies vacation with my BFFs up in Oakland. As I start mentally making my packing list
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and checking that the doors are securely locked, I see the reflection in the large window next to me
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of a curly haired guy in a leather jacket. I froze. I instantly knew who it was.
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It was my high school sweetheart, now ex. Like many teenage relationships, it was intense and dramatic and ended in a similar fashion.
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It was the last interaction I wanted to have that moment, but I could see him strolling through the lot, walking directly to me.
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I took a deep breath and turned around, expecting to see him directly in front of me and ready for the awkwardness.
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Instead, to my surprise, I find nothing. Nothing but cars and a half-empty lot devoid of any other people.
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I'm stunned. Did he change his mind about greeting me and run to hide behind one of the cars?
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Is he crazy? Am I crazy? I try to shake it off, go home, pack, and leave on my trip early the next morning.
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I have an amazing time with my girls, but the whole time I can't get that weird non-encounter
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out of my head. When I get home late Sunday, I'm feeling good and excited to share about my adventures.
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My husband greets me, listens politely, and chuckles when I try to entertain him with
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some of the weekend's shenanigans. Then he calmly says, I need to tell you something.
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I could tell something was off the whole time, so I fearfully say, what is it? He responds, Daniel died.
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Oh. Daniel, my three-year high school sweetheart, the ex I'd just seen being a weirdo
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in a parking lot a few days before, had died. That previous Thursday morning, he had died in an accident in Mexico City.
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He had moved there the year prior to start a restaurant. I was in absolute shock I still don know what to think I think of Daniel every once in a while when I hear Pink Floyd when I see a Chrysler LeBaron and whenever someone brings up how gross Abba Abba are
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I agree, but he loved them. Yuck. Anyway, he meant a lot to me and his death was a strange thing to mourn
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at 26 years old. Even stranger when five years later, I had to tell my husband that his high school sweetheart
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had also unexpectedly passed away. Oh no. Death, am I right? I'll always be grateful for the time
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I had with Daniel. discovering love and grateful that he stopped by to say goodbye on his way out.
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Hope you enjoyed this story. Stay sexy and don't haunt your exes, V. I mean, he came to say goodbye to her.
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Yeah. Yeah. Damn. Same thing happened to me. High school sweetheart. He died. I shot up in the middle of the night.
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It turned out that was when he had gotten in a car accident with a migraine that was killing me.
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and that exact moment he was in his car dying. Jesus. My high school sweetheart.
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Yeah, very weird. Wow. Yeah. Horrifying. Your husband is not who you think he is.
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Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history.
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I'm Dani Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets.
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And just then, we felt the plane turn in the air. So much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle.
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Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy. How it shapes our identities and relationships.
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And how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything.
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and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move.
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And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him.
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Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that.
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Trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the iHeartRadio app,
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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How much you weigh, Wanda? Right now, I'm about 130. I'm at 183. We should race. No,
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I want to leave here with my original hips. On the podcast to match up with Lalia,
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I pair prominent female athletes with unexpected guests. On a recent episode, I sat down with undisputed boxing champ,
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Okay, I'm not going to read you the subject line of this one. this is not romantic or it's not about human connection.
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Is it tragic? Quite the opposite. No, it's kind of funny. Good. We need it. It's a bit of a left turn.
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Okay. Great. So it just starts, Hi, friends. I just finished episode 339 where Karen covers the 1964 Alaska earthquake
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and y'all requested earthquake stories. So what baby wants, baby gets. And then in parentheses, it says,
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Karen, I'm so sorry, LOL. Yes, you're right to know that I'm furious right now. There's a little dive bar in my hometown, Sitka, Alaska, called the Pioneer Bar.
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Locals call it P-Bar or the P. There's a giant bell hanging above the bar. And if you ring the bell, it means that you're buying a drink for every single person in the bar.
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Now, this is a binding deal. There are no accidents and there's no going back once you've rung that bell.
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Oh, yeah. Anyway, about eight or nine years ago, I was there with a group of friends drinking and having a good time.
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When all of a sudden, the bar starts shaking like crazy. We eventually realized it's an earthquake.
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And whatever fear we may have felt was quickly overshadowed with the overwhelming excitement
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when the earthquake shook the bar enough for the bell to ring. The earthquake eventually stopped and we all started cheering and high-fiving each other
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because the earth just bought us around. And then they put in parentheses, LOL idiots.
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So we're sitting in a bar about 50 feet from the harbor after the earthquake. and it took us an embarrassing amount of time
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to remember that typically earthquakes are followed up by tsunamis. Really hit as the tsunami siren started going off
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and we all realized we need to figure out a plan to get to higher ground. Not one of us was in any condition to drive a car.
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As we're attempting to make a plan, a police officer enters the bar and announces that a tsunami warning is in effect
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and we all need to get to higher ground by any means necessary. He told us they won't be issuing any DUIs that evening,
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We just need to get ourselves to safety. And then they wrote in all caps, excuse me, sir.
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I'm no expert, but I feel like flooding the roads with drunk drivers while everyone in town is panic driving to higher ground
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is a more than questionable choice. Yeah. Although what option do they have? Totally.
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I just hope the city of Sitka has come up with a better tsunami evacuation plan for bar goers since then.
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And if they haven't, I'm full on calling them out now. And then they did the laughing so hard.
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their crying emoji. Anyway, we picked the most sober one in the group to drive us all
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to a friend's house who lived on the top of a hill and continued to imbibe in doomsday merriment
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as the impending tsunami inched closer and closer to shore. Thankfully, in the end,
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the wave that hit Sitka registered about six inches above sea level and all was well.
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Stay sexy and make sure your city has a plan for drunk people during a natural disaster.
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And there's no name. That's a really good point. I mean... That's hilarious. Drunk people, you're in charge of yourselves no matter what's going on in nature.
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Yes. And also just try not to get a DUI in general, no matter what a cop just told you.
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No. But I do think that's kind of smart where it's like, how do you get all those people to higher ground?
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. They don't have time to rent a bus. A party bus. A party bus.
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Party bus. Okay. This is called My Grandma Sass the FBI. It just starts. Hey, how about a classic hometown
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with a badass grandma and a bit of treasure? Yeah. My pops grew up on a farm in Northern Michigan Every year a family with kids around his age would spend the summer on the property across the road As you can imagine people and by extension friends
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were few and far between in the woods and swamps, so they were all besties pretty much immediately.
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They stayed good friends up until their adulthoods and stood in each other's weddings
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and celebrated big milestones together. Then the wife of one of the boys from across the road went missing.
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She may have struggled with mental health or substance abuse. That part is hazy.
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I was so young when it all went down that I only really remember shadowy images of the courtroom
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because when she couldn't be found, her husband was tried for her murder. My parents were called to testify
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and I was too little to be left alone. So that's probably how I ended up a murderino,
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sitting on a wooden bench in a room full of adults talking about the different ways a body can be disappeared.
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One side argued she was crazy and ran away. The other side argued the husband is always guilty.
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There was no forensic evidence and the two kids defended their father and he was eventually acquitted,
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but not before the FBI went to the property up north with dogs and metal detectors
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and a bunch of excavating equipment. When they didn't find the missing wife across the road,
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they took their circus to my grandparents' farm and demanded to dig up the garden
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and the fields in search of a body. My grumpy old Mennonite grandmother gave them all some serious shit
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because nobody could have buried anything on her farm without her knowing about it.
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And those fruits and vegetables were literally her meal ticket. They did it anyway.
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And all of those men and all of those dogs and all of that equipment managed to find
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a super secret and very criminal cache of garbage that my grandfather had buried
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because they didn't have a county dump. The missing wife still has a profile on the dough network.
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Stay sexy and maybe recycle, Jesse and Jamie. God. I know. That is a true like childhood hometown.
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Yeah. I can't believe they brought her to court. That's so... Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're just like,
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they got to be there. Yeah. There's no childcare. No. Guess what you're about to do.
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All right. We know we're going to have to pay for therapy one day. So let's just start it early.
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Yeah. I wonder when they do stuff like that, if the police have to like try to put that back,
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if they dug up their whole field or farm or something. That's a great question. If anyone knows the answer officially, I want to hear it.
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Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was.
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Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Dani Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets.
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And just then, we felt the plane turn in the air. So much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle.
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Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy. How it shapes our identities and relationships.
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And how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything.
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and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move.
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And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him.
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Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Every story has a point where it's balanced on a knife's edge. That's where we begin.
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For some, it's a confrontation no parent ever expects. They finally admit, we're here to take your children.
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The department has taken custody and we're here to take your kids. It was just shock and horror and desperation.
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For others, it's surviving the unthinkable. As they're having this gun battle, thousands of feet up in the air,
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many of the bullets start to puncture the aircraft. I thought we were going to die then.
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The Knife is a podcast about real people whose lives were upended in an instant.
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We talk to the people who lived it, unpacking what happened, how they got through it, and what came next.
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And on our off-record episodes, we go even deeper into the reporting and answer the questions you can't stop thinking about.
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New episodes drop every Thursday on the Exactly Right Network and the iHeart Podcast Network.
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Listen to The Knife on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Hi, I'm Chris Fairbanks. And I'm Karen Kilgariff. We host Do You Need a Ride, the mobile comedy podcast that answers the question,
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what does it sound like when we drive our comedian friends around the wild streets of Los Angeles?
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Yes, every week we pick up a hilarious guest, maybe run some errands, share some laughs, and our dreams.
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Like when Martha Kelly shared her career pivot. I want to become an influencer of divorced moms whose kids have gone off to college
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who have decided they're going to start living life for themselves. Or the time Baron Vaughn got distracted by the majestic scenery.
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Then there's a freaking deer right there on the side of the road. Oh, that's great.
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Holy shit. Eating freaking road grass. Road grass. I wish you said glass. New episodes drop every Monday on the Exactly Right Network.
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Thank you. You're welcome. Okay, the subject line of this one is the plot of every horror movie.
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I'm currently at the gym listening to multiple episodes of the pod, and I thought I'd share one of the scariest moments of my childhood.
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Let's set the scene. Halloween 2010. I was about eight at the time, and I decided to go to my friend's house.
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She lived in a super old house with a forest at the back, which had a World War II bunker in it.
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Oh, my God. So it was a really great house for Halloween. You think so? The woods, like a house set at the edge of the woods.
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I want to watch any scary movie that starts there. A hundred percent. Because the woods, anything can happen.
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It's terrifying. In the woods, as we've discussed many a time. Yes. Okay. We decided to go into the woods and play by the bunker.
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Let's go play by the bunker. Can you imagine saying those words? No way. Come on, it'll be fun.
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It was the middle of the day. The sun was shining, so it didn't seem too creepy.
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As we were playing in the woods, a random person dressed in a full scream costume appeared.
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Mask, hatchet, black coat, the full shebang. We obviously screamed and started to run back to the house
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and this fucker starts running after us. We make it back to the house and Mr. Scream stops at the edge of the woods,
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starts laughing maniacally, and then just turns around and walks back into the woods I hate you I mean we told parents teachers friends and not one believed us Why not
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Yeah. Like, it's 2010. Yeah, people are assholes. Remember that weird trend where clowns with, like, axes
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started showing up on the side of the road at night? Yep. What's so hard to believe that there's creeps in your town?
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Seriously. Yes. I sometimes think it was just a dream, but we both experienced it,
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and we remember it exactly the same. It wasn't a fucking dream. No, it happened.
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It was a creepy, probably like stoner kid. Yes. Loner that's like- Yes. Has sociopathic tendencies.
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Exactly. To this day, we don't know who it was and why they were in my friend's back garden.
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Stay sexy and don't scare eight-year-olds in the woods. Grace. Or do. I mean- Yeah, we believe you.
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Because the hatchet part is what makes- If it was just a scream mask- Yeah. And then just a kid wearing jeans.
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Yeah, that's true. Who cares? But you don't need the whole outfit, sir. Okay, my last one's called Earthquakes and Disaster in Montana.
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It just starts, hello. On a mini-sode, you said you wanted to hear from your not-your-average listener.
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I'm a 30-year-old male and make my living as a hunting and fishing guide in Montana.
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Yes. Hi. Yes. You're the one we're looking for. You're it. Thank you for writing in.
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Sir, welcome. Lots of people find it odd that I dearly love a podcast that never ceases to remind people to stay out of the woods,
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but I am proudly one murderino that hasn't died yet outdoors. Yeah, represent. Come and tell us what it's like.
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I could tell you many wild stories accrued from a life lived outside, but I think you'll find the story of Quake Lake more interesting.
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Quake Lake is located right outside Yellowstone National Park and about 30 minutes south of my hometown of Ennis, Montana.
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It was formed in 1959 when a violent 7.5 magnitude earthquake broke loose an entire side of a mountain.
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The huge landslide dammed the Madison River and sadly killed 28 people camping in the area.
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It is an incredible place to come visit if you're in the area. The amount of rocks and dirt moved is unbelievable.
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My interesting story of the lake, however, isn't mine, but a fishing client I floated with one day.
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I guess they call it floating instead of fishing. Interesting. I asked what brought him to town
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and he said to revisit the quake area. He'd been staying in a cabin along the banks of the Madison,
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right near where the landslide hit. In the middle of the night, his mom woke up the entire family
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saying she had a bad feeling and they needed to go now. Begrudgingly, they started getting ready to leave
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right as they were about to get in the car, the quake hit. They somehow made it to a high spot
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just above where the now Quake Lake campground is located and were rescued hours later.
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The cabin they were staying in was demolished and moved about 50 feet. You can still see remnants of some of the cabins today.
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I've never heard of this. Doesn't that sound crazy? Never heard of it. Yes, it's amazing.
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My client said he had revisited before and found comic books, clothes, and his mother's makeup bag that were left in the confusion of the night.
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He was forever thankful for his mom's premonition that gave them enough of a head start to survive, which so many others didn't have.
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The lake is still quite spooky as it is filled with standing dead trees that are filled with black cormorant birds.
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There are 18 people still buried somewhere below the rubble and the Quake Lake Visitor Center stands as a tribute to them
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and the incredible power of nature. The moral of the story is don't ignore your mom
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if she's acting a bit crazy. Sometimes they do know best. Thank you for all the work you put into your podcast.
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And if you're ever in Montana, please take time to come float and fish with us, Austin.
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Austin, first of all, was your mom acting crazy or did she save her entire family?
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Right. I mean, Jesus Christ. Yeah, yeah. That's like, it's kind of the plot of Dante's Peak.
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Like you're on the mountain. Yeah. As like a landslide and an earthquake is happening.
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Terrifying, terrifying. Oh, amazing. Is that it? Oh yeah, I went first, that's right.
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Goodbye. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was.
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Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Dani Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring
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on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move.
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And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him.
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Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families.
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Late one night, Bobby Gumpwright became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything.
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I was a monster. Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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