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We are... It's a little something new for all the murderinos out there. It's a little look back onto our past.
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We're going back to our first episodes, and we're going to add in all new commentary
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to our favorite moments from the episode. Also, our corrections corners, case updates,
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just a lot of shit talking. Yeah, basically, we've been doing this so long that it's fun to look back at how different we were at the very beginning. We were very different.
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We were very ignorant. And we have learned a lot along the way. We were green. Right? And there's people who say this podcast has been going on so long that it's too late for
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them to get into it. We're here to say that's not true. That's right. So now you can invite your doula.
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Or your creepy cousin. your tattooist to listen along with you and to, you know, get a feel for the beginning so that
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they can catch up. I mean, now everybody can be a day one listener. That's right.
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So right now we're going to take you back. We're going to rewind it all the way back
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to January 22nd, 2016. We're in George's apartment. We're podcasting. There's no research.
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There's no documents. There's no sources. No one's written anything on a piece of paper.
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There's giggling during horrible talk, which we don't do anymore. Yeah. So there's a lot of early days behavior.
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Yeah. Hold on to your butts. Here's episode two. Enjoy. Hey, welcome to My Favorite Murder.
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Hey, I'm Karen. I'm Georgia. And we love murder. We love murder. We don't want to get murdered.
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We love true crime. We love true crime. We love to talk about bad things that have happened to good people.
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Hopefully they won't happen to us if we talk about it enough. It's as if we could ward it off with just our positive verbal energies.
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And our anxiety over getting murdered. Because sometimes when you share an anxiety, it alleviates it a little bit.
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Yeah. I think it also lessens the chance of it happening. That's right. We're changing the future with our words.
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Georgia was very harsh with me when I arrived at her apartment. She said, have you been watching that?
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And I said, don't talk about it. Have you been watching? I barely had the word watching out
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and she screamed, don't talk about it, but didn't explain that she wanted to save it
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for the podcast. It was as if this was a forbidden subject. Like I literally was like, never talk about it.
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Like how I am with Sex and the City. Don't talk about it. In front of me. Oh, you don't want to spoil it?
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Is that why? Right. Ever in my life. I want to keep that pure for the rest of my days.
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You've never done one episode. I saw part of once when they went to LA and it was, it really depressed me.
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Fair enough. Okay. Let's talk about it. Okay. I meant, I meant save it for the show.
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Okay. This is the show. Okay. There's, I just started watching it yesterday. Same with me.
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What episode are you on? Two. Okay. This is fun. Cause I'm on like, it just, we just finished three.
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Oh, okay. The show we're talking about is making of a murder. Making a Murderer Making a Murderer on Netflix
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It's like think the jinx But fucking better Do you love it? It's amazing What I think is amazing is
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We are truly now in this era Where everyone life has been recorded in some way Because there is so much footage of that guy So much So much footage And you realize it because that how everything
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works these days. Yeah, but he was also in the news for the past 18 years. Yes. So the story is,
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and it's really funny because there's two separate stories here, one of which, the murder,
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I already knew about. And I didn't realize that that's what was going on until they started
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talking about the murder. So the first episode, which I thought was a standalone thing, I thought they were
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just going to talk about people who got exonerated. The first episode is the story of this guy, Stephen
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Avery, getting... Spoilers. Yeah, but you're going to see the first episode. He gets exonerated for
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rape after 18 years in prison. And kind of finding out that he's been railroaded by his own
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cousin and the people that live in his community. It's one of those, like, it's like the West Memphis tree where it's like,
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how the fuck did this get as far as it did? Yeah. One of those like these guys clearly a huge miscarriage of justice. This is terrifying.
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We could go to prison at any moment for anything. Yeah. Well, yes, because it's that freaky thing
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of like as you pull back and realize this is happening all over the country, all over the
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world where people in power, it's an abuse of power and people just doing whatever they want
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to do. Totally. There's these amazing interviews. Oh my God. All the depositions. There's like
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hundreds of hours of depositions. And it's these people that I swear to God, if it was a sketch
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show, you'd be like, that guy's too broad. Totally. Like the, the mealy mouthed district
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attorney guy with the little glasses and the kind of perfectly balding head that was like.
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They are so depressing. Like this, they are the reasons I point to all of them that I never want
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to work in an office job again. If I can save myself because those are the people you work with
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then you fucking hate them. And more so for me is watching people lie. It's so fascinating because you can smell a lie.
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It doesn't matter how you think you might be good at it or whatever. People know you're lying.
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Who do you think you are? Everyone knows you're lying. And that one sheriff who is kind of big with the mustache that did the drawing.
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Yes, who did a drawing and got them framed like a fucking disgusting, like he's the guy who goes hunting and gets like,
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and like kills an animal with like a shot to the head and then frames it on his wall.
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Crazy. I mean, like just the level of smugness and the way that guy would talk. It made me love that.
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He talks like, you're stupid. I am so much smarter than you. I'm going to act like it.
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And meanwhile, he's talking to a lawyer that's deposing him. Totally. And a lawyer who gets paid to argue.
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So the guy's like, let me finish. The lawyer ends up feeling like a teacher. And this guy's like, I don't remember that.
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Such a smug piece of shit. So many lies. What do you think? Yeah, he's just all of it.
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It's so gross. And then it turns into, and I think we can talk about the crime because this is a murder that we probably would have eventually gotten to because it's stuck with me for so, it's stuck with me because of what this woman went through, the torture that she went through.
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Oh, no. Did you ever hear about it before? I don't know because I'm like right in the part where they're looking for her.
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I mean, I obviously know she's looking for her. Do you remember there was one where she gets kidnapped and tied up and the nephew and this guy raped and tortured her?
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I remembered it from the because of the nephew part okay so when that started happening and I
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started talking about it around the third episode I was like oh shit and then his nephew comes in
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so I'm like well this is then he did it because I remember this murder but they get to it it's
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crazy so wait basically you're remembering a thing that you saw in like a 2020 style thing
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but it was wrong I don't well that's what we're that's what we're examining okay is did he commit
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this murder or did they set him up because this guy, Stephen Avery, is now suing the shit out of
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the county that put him in jail wrongfully. And are they setting him up because this woman
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disappeared? Right. Are they setting him up for the murder? Yeah. That's like the question they're
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going to answer. I'm positive they are. And I'm only halfway through the second episode. It's
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great. And it's wonderful because it's one of those things with serial where episode to episode,
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you're like, he's guilty. He's not guilty. He's guilty. And the reason they found out about it is
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because the nephew confessed and you're like well then he did it and then they show you they have
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footage of the nephew confessing and it is it is troubling oh no like when you say i can tell people
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are lying he's lying this kid is making this shit up and it's a false confession but is it i don't
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know i'm sorry is it i'm sorry to say but it's that weird thing where also it's so much easier
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when you're watching a documentary and going like look at this guy because so it's been laid out for
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me. Like if they were manipulating me to not like people or like people or whatever, I fall for that stuff every single time.
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Totally. Totally. Every time. You know what's really funny too is I mean this will come out later
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but people, I bet a lot of people will have watched it by the time this actually comes out. Well what's fun is
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it's not episodic. You can go binge the fuck out of it right now. Yeah. It's all on there. That's the
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best. But it seems like a bunch of people did that because it was like a wildfire
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of people on Twitter being like, making of a murder. Like all of a sudden in a five hour block everyone was tweeting
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that they were watching it. It was weird. Isn't that smart? Like, I feel like episodic
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makes people more into something. Maybe. Makes you smarter? No, makes people more into something.
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Oh, like, yes, because you just sit in your house and watch it all day. And it, like, becomes your life.
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Totally. Like, now that Fargo's over, what am I going to watch? For real. God bless Fargo, right?
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Gorgeous. If Kirsten Dunst doesn't win all the awards, even, like, the ones that don't make any sense,
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I'm going to be bummed. Did I already brag to you that I know the casting director?
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No. Because she goes to my dog park. No. Yeah, she became dog park friends. Oh, my God.
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And then after chatting. And she's just a total, like, one of us kind of gal. Oh, my God.
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And it turns out that. And so we have each other's phone numbers, like, to text.
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Because everyone's want to be like, oh, text me if you're going to go. Yeah. So we'll be at the dog park at the same time.
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Holy shit. Text me if you're going to go. Bring Kirsten Dunst. The first episode I watched I text her I like this show is amazing Because I loved the first season and I was like there no way the second season is going to be as good And it was like so good
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So good. So good. So yeah, everyone go watch, what is it? Making of a Murder? Making of a Murderer.
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Making of a Murderer. Tell us about it. Oh, I made us a Facebook fan page, not fan.
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I made my favorite murder a Facebook page. Nice. So everyone go on there and talk about that and tell us your town murder, all this stuff.
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Right. Yes. We want to know what's happened. What happened in your town that you've been talking about since you were 10.
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We want to know your Facebook murder, your favorite murder. What? Could be the Facebook murder.
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What if there was a Facebook murderer? Oh, there was a Craigslist murderer. Yeah.
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Not a Facebook. Because it's so low rent. Wow. Yeah. We loved Facebook. Yeah, Facebook. Oh, my God. Like that was as big as I thought it would get is a Facebook page. So I was like, I'm going to do this. Yeah. And it turned out to be, as the kids say, a dumpster fire.
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I mean, it ended up being. Yes. In the early days, we used to have some fun on that Facebook page.
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It was really great. Thank you to Steve and Ray Morris and to the moderators for curating this beautiful little thing. It could only last so long.
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Yeah, that's the way of the internet, basically. But we had mods at the end there when that Facebook page had tens of thousands of people on it. We had mods that were working constantly, that voluntarily, although I will say I was going to say for nothing, but we did invite them to our live shows.
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Oh, yeah. So that was our give back. We're like, please, you know, let us get you a ticket for a live show near you.
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But ultimately, the Facebook page had to end. And it ended kind of, I do want to say, it ended very unceremoniously. We didn't talk to the mods about it. We just shut the page down.
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I mean, I think it was our first kind of panic of this podcast. First of many things that we would panic about that we didn't really know how to handle.
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especially with something like a person being accused of racism yeah which it overtly was
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racism yeah absolutely and uh but it was also the fourth of july so everybody was away from
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their computer that like wasn't quote-unquote in charge i can't even remember that oh i remember
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because then when i went back to work all of a sudden i was getting these messages that were
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the same message over and over, which is very interesting to me. Your Facebook page is a dumpster fire.
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Well, yeah. If we keep doing these rewinds, we're going to get to that day. Yeah.
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And we can talk about it. It was bad, but it's just kind of a funny, like, it is a little bit of a horror movie
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to be like, listen to us talk about Facebook so much. I know. Oh, we were so naive.
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We're like, yeah, we're like the girl in the shower in the beginning of the horror movie
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who's just like so doesn't know what's happening. She's shampooing and conditioning.
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She doesn't care. Oh, my God. Okay. And then you tell your story first. One of my first great failures on this podcast, and it's only episode two.
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Yet somehow you pull it off. I swear. Let's listen to Karen's story. She does Paul Bernardo and Carla Homolka.
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Yes. For this episode? Yeah. Do you want to go first? Do you want me to go first?
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I want you to go first. You want me to go first? Yeah. This is one of the ones where I've done less research on it,
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but I know the story in my heart Totally These are more fun It a murder of my heart but it the Paul Bernardo Carla Homolka um husband and wife murder team where it was in uh I believe it was Toronto
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Yes. Um, and in the early nineties and it was a weird power dynamic abusive relationship.
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and he basically got his wife to help him lure teenage girls into their homes so that he could rape them and ultimately murder them.
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And they started off with her younger sister. I remember. I love this one. It's so crazy.
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They drugged her younger sister who was like 14. They put drugs in her drink and then they roofied her
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and then he raped her and she videotaped it. This is her younger sister. Her younger sister.
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You thought Canada was all maple syrup and politeness. Totally. And there's one exception to that rule
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and it's Paul Bernardo. But the reason I like this, aside from the insanity of that part
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where they would drive around looking for teen girls. It's so scary because you think like,
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you see a woman and you're like, I'm safe. Like if something, it's like, let's say for some reason I was hitchhiking,
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which I would fucking never do because I'm terrified of murder. But it happened that I was
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and a couple stopped. I'd be like, this is okay because the woman's here. Yes. So he's not going to murder me
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with his like wife or whatever. Which is, that's how, you know the story of the woman who...
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Yep, in the box. Oh my God, it's so crazy. Yep. Georgia, the way you just did that,
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I wish you guys could have seen. What did I do? You practically winked at me or like, yep, say no more.
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this is a day where Georgia knows everything I'm going to say to her I do but that girl, the woman got into the car
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because it was a couple in the front seat and then they put her head in a carpeted box
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how terrifying so awful and then they ended up keeping her in a box under the bed for seven years
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yeah and then they tied her up did you see the photo of her tied up from her trial?
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no they don't show her face but she's like splayed naked and you know what the most fucked up thing about that story is
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is that they brought her home to her house to be like, look, she's fine, everyone.
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Yeah. Right? Yeah. And that in and of itself was this big, a huge thing for him because he had her so brainwashed.
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And that idea that like, there's a syndicate that's out to get you. So you can't go anywhere.
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You can't tell anybody. He told her that he made her sign a thing. Yeah. That said the company,
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I think he called it the company. I mean, would you, you want to be like, I would never believe that as soon as I've actually,
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I thought about this. Like I would just start screaming the minute I got in, door of my family's house because he was like, look, we're dating. Everything's normal. So you
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can stop looking for her. But he broke her. He broke her on the deepest psychological level.
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It can't be that hard when you're putting someone in boxes to break them. It actually isn't. I don't think. If you feed people like only sugar, don't let them sleep,
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make them jump around. That's how cults do it. Sugar? Really? That's like a... Yeah. That's how like the Moonies would do it.
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Why? Just because your brain is... If you don't have enough protein and you only eat sugar, then you have these weird energy bursts and you do like a lot of crazy stuff and then you are exhausted.
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But then they wake you up at three in the morning. Yeah. Do a weird. I'm putting myself in a cult then because I have just constantly.
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I mean, cookies. Am I right? It is crazy. I need to eat more protein. Yes. So anyway, but here's my twist-a-roo.
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That's kind of a hometown story. So Paul Bernardo was the husband of this hideous.
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They, of course, eventually caught him. but when they caught him they in taking his dna they linked him to um a long-standing set of
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unsolved rapes they were calling them they're calling him the scarborough rapist and it was
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from a certain neighborhood in it's toronto right i keep thinking it might be montreal it's canada
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it's i'm pretty sure it's toronto but let us know if i'm wrong yeah always on the facebook page um
00:22:08
give me a thumbs up if I'm wrong. But so the Scarborough Rapist was, was, people were terrified.
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It went on for years. Scarborough, New York? No, no, no. In Canada. This part of,
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sorry, this is the one thing I didn't look up. I'm pretty sure it's, it's a neighborhood of Toronto.
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Okay, got it. But so my friend, Paul Greenberg, who you might know him from that one year that Neil Patrick Harris hosted the Emmys
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and he walked out behind him and just stood and stared. Why did he do that? It was a bit.
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Oh, okay. He's a writer and he's a comic. He's really funny. So anyway, he told me this story and this is my favorite.
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Love it. So the years before Paul Bernadero and his wife started killing young girls for his pleasure,
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there was a Scarborough rapist. And so Paul's mother was at the time, I guess, in her 70s probably.
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And she lived in an apartment building that had a swimming pool at the top. And she's a really good artist.
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And so she would go up and swim laps every day. And she's retired. And I think she lived by herself.
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Anyway, one day she's up there swimming laps. And a young man comes out onto the roof.
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And she doesn't really think much of it. She's swimming laps. And then she notices that he's walking along the pool as she's swimming laps.
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Oh my God. Like lapping. Like lapping with her, walking back and forth. And so she like looks up and sees it and there's no one else up there.
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That's threatening. So she just keeps swimming laps and he's like tracking her and staring at her.
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And she's like, you know, an elderly woman swimming. Jesus. And he's just like, she said it was the scariest thing ever.
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And then she didn't know what to do. do at one point she was just treading water and like staring and didn't know what to do
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and then the door burst open and like three families came out and um you know came to use
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the pool and all the kids jumped in the pool and he left okay so she got out of the pool put on a
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put on a towel that's really important um i was scared she was slipped on some flip-flops and she
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went down to her apartment and drew a picture of his face because she knew she had to do it while
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she remembered it wow so then she put the picture she called the cops they said you know it's like
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a complaint or whatever and then however many years it was later let's say three or five when
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they showed paul bernardo on the news for this uh husband and wife killing thing the mom walks over
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and pulls the picture out of the drawer and it's him. It was Paul Bernardo that was doing that.
00:24:56
And then later on with DNA, they linked him. Did she call and was like, listen, dudes.
00:25:01
Well, at that point, I think they'd already figured out that he was also the Scarborough rapist.
00:25:06
Holy shit. I mean, certainly not how Keith Morrison would have done it. That's all I'm saying.
00:25:15
No, but you basically told a friend's anecdote about the story. So it was still riveting and new information, but there wasn't a lot of other
00:25:26
information. And you ended up redoing it later, right? I did. Yeah. When we were in Toronto.
00:25:31
Right. Right. Because it was so, I mean, and this was that, this is very much the,
00:25:36
the, we didn't really understand the concept of our podcast. Yeah. And we didn't, we thought we
00:25:45
were the only ones paying attention to it. Totally. So it is that thing of like, oh, I know that.
00:25:48
Yeah, that's a crazy story. I know it. And then it's like, no, no, you don't. You're just having a cocktail party conversation.
00:25:56
Right. It's a different thing. That's exactly what it was. A cocktail. Yeah, totally.
00:26:00
That's we kind of started thinking that's how we were going to do it. And slowly but surely we're like, we cannot do this. This is not this is awful.
00:26:08
Yeah, we have to give information. Oh, so here's a couple updates. Oh, yeah. Paul Bernardo is still alive. He's still in prison.
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he gets a new parole hearing every two years that's canadian law but it's of course very
00:26:25
unlikely he'll ever be released because of it he's infamous in canada obviously uh there was
00:26:32
outcry from victims families when he was transferred to a medium security prison
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but they upheld it that's crazy that guy is so dangerous he is a serial rapist yes berserker he's
00:26:46
The predator. Yeah. Like the word medium security should not be anywhere near his name.
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It really shouldn't. It doesn't make a ton of sense. No new updates from Carla Homolka.
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it's not as interesting, but it's my favorite because I feel like it changed the course of
00:29:31
history so drastically that everything would be different today lincoln's assassination
00:29:36
no but not far from that okay all right i think our world would be it's such a better place if
00:29:43
this person hadn't been killed robert f kennedy oh because he was a good person and a darling
00:29:53
jfk was just a fucking flashy playboy but rfk hot take georgia yeah i just it makes me so sad that he was killed and and i don think there was a conspiracy even though there they trying to make a million conspiracies of it there
00:30:08
the girl in the polka dot dress do you remember that that thing where they say there's a girl in
00:30:12
a polka dot dress who was mind controlling him what's the mind control thing that they call mk
00:30:16
ultra mk ultra and she she mind controlled sirhan sirhan to shoot robert f kennedy yes and ran out
00:30:23
someone said she ran out of the ambassador hotel where he was killed screaming we shot him no one ever found her
00:30:29
yeah if you were some kind of a super deep agent in the MKUltra program would you be
00:30:41
would you yell that? you think you have a little more control over it I think you'd be better at your job
00:30:47
that's a really good point you can do all of these things but yet you start screaming you snap
00:30:53
I mean that's an interesting I mean I don't put it past anything that the kind of
00:30:59
things that have gone on governmentally I believe in all of those I believe in the idea that they were
00:31:07
trying to train people to be like sleeper murderers that just like would wake up and shoot somebody
00:31:13
do you believe that? like Manchurian Candidate style because they do you fucking hear my
00:31:19
is that your cat? That's my fucking cat screaming in the other room, and this is why I can't sleep at night.
00:31:26
Maybe your cat's in pain. She's not. I've taken her to the doctor multiple times.
00:31:30
She's fine. Okay. She's fucking fine. She's an idiot. Is she screaming, we shot him?
00:31:35
She's in a Pokemon outfit. She's a calico. Is she the sleeper agent that we've been fearing all along?
00:31:41
Probably. She's already ruining my life. You know what? If they could control cats, that would be it.
00:31:48
I mean, it would be over. She would love the cutest army. The other thing is she probably, if you're going to think about it, she wouldn't have
00:31:54
worn a polka dot. Like, why would you wear something so like easily explainable?
00:31:58
Right. You'd wear a black dress. You'd wear pants and a tie. Like you would look normal.
00:32:03
There's so many ways to blend in. Polka dots. Polka dots always says, hey, look at Minnie Mouse over here.
00:32:10
I'm fun. Polka dots, white gloves. I'm here to have fun. It's me, the town slut.
00:32:17
I'm here for the shooting. so you really think who do they pick and why just like maybe criminals that no one will believe anyways
00:32:25
could be that could be like you know Jason Bourne style you were already in the army
00:32:30
and then you got pulled into some kind of special program and they just be on so much LSD
00:32:34
for so long that your brain is as mush yeah fuck that would suck I know it would be crazy
00:32:40
but also it's weird that like I don't know all of that stuff is so crazy because it's like
00:32:46
who is it the government or is it the mafia or is it you know the the kennedys have not had a good
00:32:53
time of it in terms of being murdered yeah but i think i don't know are they are they all just like
00:32:59
i think everyone in a in a public place in government is just a fucking puppet sure so it's the bit the rich big business people behind the scenes right you know the
00:33:12
Dow Chemical Family, the guy from Fox Catcher. Oh my God, totally him. The movie bored the shit out of me,
00:33:19
but then I watched the 30 for 30. Do you ever watch those? About it. And you're like, oh, this was so perfect
00:33:29
and correct and right, and it's fucked up. It's better than the movie. Oh, I have to see that.
00:33:33
I loved that movie. I was bored. It may be because I went by myself, and when I go see movies
00:33:39
by myself, it makes me feel like i'm french or something i get real stuck up about myself and like i'm doing well you're not you're
00:33:46
going to see a film that's right not a movie it's not a movie it's a film well i had no idea what to
00:33:52
expect vince was like there's something about wrestling and i was like okay and like i went
00:33:56
and i was like this is the most boring i gotta know i think the half the audience in the theater
00:34:00
when i went thought we're watching a movie corell comedy and so they only laughed when it was like
00:34:06
when he brings the trophy and he's like i have a trophy now mother or whatever he did some weird
00:34:12
speech and everyone's like kind of laughed but they were just confused the whole time oh my god
00:34:16
they were watching a movie you were watching a film i was there for the film in my red polka
00:34:20
it's good you should watch the 30 for 30 of it okay um yeah am i allowed to do boring murders
00:34:26
like that no yes because it's it's more of the concept of it like what was he up to that they
00:34:32
needed to take him out. Well, here's the thing is the reason Sirhan, but see, the problem
00:34:36
with me is, that I have, is that the reason Sirhan Sirhan who was arrested and is in prison for life
00:34:42
for it, killed him, makes complete sense. Whereas like, what's his little squirrely name
00:34:48
who killed? Lee Harvey Oswald. Lee Harvey Oswald. It doesn't really sound like...
00:34:52
So Sirhan, RFK was a supporter of Israel. Sirhan Sirhan was a Palestinian Jordanian immigrant
00:35:00
and the day that RFK was killed was on the anniversary of the start of the Six Days War.
00:35:08
So he killed RFK for his support of Israel. Well, but there's got to be... The weird thing is, didn't that guy work at the hotel?
00:35:17
No. Oh, he didn't? Was he the busboy? I thought he was at least dressed up like a busboy.
00:35:23
Oh, maybe. There are people who have dedicated their lives to studying this shit.
00:35:28
And they hate us. so much. Wasn't it? Didn't it happen at a hotel? Listen, we, here at My Favorite Murder,
00:35:37
we're fucking talking mad shit, and if you want something more than that, then you need to go watch the documentary.
00:35:43
Then read your books. Yeah, like, we're not pretending to be good talkers. No. So, yeah,
00:35:51
and then there's also a theory that if you listen to the recording there are more than eight shots fired which Sirhan Sirhan only had a gun a caliber with eight rounds in it Wow But you can hear like up to 13 maybe
00:36:07
So maybe there's a second shooter. Well, it sounds like there would have to be unless it was echoing.
00:36:12
But I just feel like if you watch documentaries about RFK, his stance on racism and what he was doing for the poor and for minorities was so extreme from any way we've ever treated people before.
00:36:29
I think our world would have been a fucking much better place. I think that honestly like I think that
00:36:35
there was a break in the space time continuum and everyone else when he didn't die got to live in a great
00:36:41
fucking world and were stuck in this bullshit where he got killed. Wow. I really do think there was like a what do they call
00:36:47
them? Alternate reality? Alternate reality. A sliding doors starring Gwyneth Paltrow?
00:36:52
Yes. And Gwyneth Paltrow we got stuck with her in this one. And in the other one there's no Gwyneth Paltrow.
00:36:59
And the other one it's Sandy Bullock the whole time. yeah all sandy bullock all the time good times life is better and here we are well that's dark
00:37:06
but uh i kind of thank you i like i like the concept of it like imagine a world where somebody
00:37:13
a leader who actually really did have the people's best intentions at heart got through because that
00:37:18
almost seems impossible these days i think he had i think he had that and i think we didn't deserve
00:37:24
it and he couldn't he couldn't live because we didn't fucking deserve it i'm such a good person
00:37:30
not you and I'm clearly you and I are like the best right I'm super nice to everybody
00:37:36
all the time I'm really understanding I'm so patient I'm so patient and kind I don't care when people drive like shit
00:37:45
I won't scream at them I don't scream terrible things out the window of my car at people or
00:37:50
we don't sit at a diner and talk shit on every single person oh my god is it time
00:37:56
here's our second podcast diner time where we talk public mad shit. Where we don't know we're
00:38:03
mic'd and we just talk shit on every single person. That would be, I feel like, I can't believe that hasn't happened yet.
00:38:09
Just truth? Just like a, well, I mean, I think there are some people that do podcasts mistakenly, but
00:38:15
the idea of that, a gossip podcast where people just talk shit. Wouldn't you listen to it every, if they put out five
00:38:23
a week, you'd listen to every one? Yeah. But can we be anonymous and no one knows who we
00:38:27
really are? Well, we can. it's too late for us well maybe two other random girls having a podcast on feral audio isn't that
00:38:33
weird and they it's just these two anonymous girls and they talk mad shit they sound a lot
00:38:37
like karen and those girls from ohio yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah those girls they're bitches
00:38:43
mad shit um okay yes so those that's those are two good ones those are those are pretty good
00:38:54
ones here's the first thing i thought of when you said robert kennedy um you know how he had a hand
00:39:01
in shutting down that i shouldn't get into this one because it's a whole other topic say it quick
00:39:06
um it's a i think it was called westbrook or brookhaven or sunny brook or whatever but it's
00:39:13
that um mental hospital that's on long island or staten island i mean that got shut down in the
00:39:20
60s because they were basically just taking just developmentally disabled children and throwing
00:39:26
them into big dark rooms oh my god and hosing them off every day and like it was i think it was one of
00:39:33
geraldo's first expose yes he went in there i remember that and they like on the single light
00:39:38
on the camera it looks like a horror movie from today where it's just kids huddled up and when
00:39:43
robert kennedy saw that he went and shut that place down himself that's the first thing i thought
00:39:48
but that's where they think there's a serial killer that that lives on the grounds of that
00:39:53
hospital that there's an there's a what's it called something see yes there's a clancy clancy
00:39:59
or something like that's it called i know watch the movie there's a netflix it's so good it's
00:40:04
really good um it's called stocksy no cropsy that's it it's really good and creepy remember
00:40:12
Remember a word with Karen and Georgia. Sound it out and work it out. It's the Banksy.
00:40:18
Oh my God, we just solved who Banksy is. Banksy's Cropsey. Banksy's Cropsey. Banksy's killing developmentally disabled children on Staten Island.
00:40:26
Yeah, that's some fucked up shit. And unfortunately, they also then like Reagan and Nixon just opened the fucking asylums and let everyone go.
00:40:36
And which is why we have this homeless problem and mental illness issue. My mom was a psychiatric nurse and she, in the, in the late seventies and early eighties, when that proposition came up.
00:40:46
It was Reagan. It was Reagan. Sorry. Sorry, Nixon. Nixon was long on, but she used to rant about it every single night.
00:40:53
And she called exactly what's happening today. She's like, these people will have nowhere to go.
00:40:58
They will be wandering on the streets. They'll be assaulting people. They'll be like, these people need to be taken care of.
00:41:04
And this is the coldest, like the idea that a leader would be like, that you don't take care of the people that need help the most. And you just shut off all funding
00:41:13
for that and say, it's not our problem. It creates such huge problems. Listen, I'm going to say it right now. I would rather pay more taxes to get people mental
00:41:21
fucking help and not have as much money myself than live in a world where we don't fucking
00:41:26
take care of people. And there are just rampant mental illness and homeless and starving people.
00:41:33
Yeah. And that idea of it's too bad for you. Like I got mine. when how did you even get yours?
00:41:38
People helped you. Right, totally. Horrible. Everything is horrible. And if RFK hadn't died,
00:41:44
that would have never fucking happened. That could have changed. What if he went and fist fought Reagan?
00:41:50
And that was like, it was an actual battle. I did not hear fist fought. I heard something totally else and I just can give it to myself That what I just heard when you said it I was like why she say that But it what you thought what I said You said fist fought Past tense of fist fight is what I said
00:42:05
Okay, that's not what I heard. Oh, yeah. They should have fought. They should have fist fought.
00:42:13
They should have fist fought. Where am I? Yeah. In Alternative Universeville, there is just the most beautiful asylums.
00:42:24
and we go there sometimes when we just need a break. Yeah. You know? They're all garden.
00:42:28
Yeah. And rest. And everyone knows how to properly prescribe medication. And the medication is free.
00:42:34
Flowing, overflowing, just bowls of medication everywhere. Like fountains. Fountains of Prozac.
00:42:43
I'll take it. Open my mouth, just like stick my head under the... I'd get some. Sure.
00:42:47
Just relax. Yeah. There's the Adderall fountain. It's never abused. Isn't that great?
00:42:54
Everyone graduates from college. Those are papers. Oh, drugs. Okay, so when I listened to this again for the Rewind episode, I just kept saying to myself,
00:43:08
so I say this stuff about this person changed the world, would have made the world a better place.
00:43:16
Historically, like if they hadn't died, everything would have been better. And I kept saying to myself, now say Martin Luther King Jr.
00:43:22
Say Martin Luther King Jr. Yeah. But I said Robert F. Kennedy, you know. So let's just, you know, look at it through 2024 eyes.
00:43:30
I mean, but that is what you were talking about. Yeah. It was the case you were talking about.
00:43:35
Right. Right. But, you know. And that is, well, there's a little bit of that is the conversation these days where it's like people who aren't doing it from the outside are going, why didn't you do it this way?
00:43:46
Right. And it's like, right. I mean, like, that's the way we did it. It is. There's a white lady.
00:43:53
part of it. There's a like ignorance part of it. There's also just that this is what we're
00:43:58
like focusing on in this moment. Yeah. So you were just talking about the Kennedys and.
00:44:03
Yeah. Oh, and the other thing I wanted to point out is this is how long the podcast has gone on.
00:44:08
Like this is the cycle. I said something about there being fountains of Prozac at a institution.
00:44:15
And that shows you that I was taking Prozac then and I stopped taking it and it's cycled around.
00:44:21
I'm taking it again. Really? So it's this beautiful like circle of medication and just shows you that
00:44:28
you're so it's such a long journey to find the medication that works for you. And sometimes
00:44:33
this time of your life it works and this time it doesn't, but it's kind of a full circle Prozac
00:44:37
moment for me. Yeah. Always got to get that mental health message in there as well. Whether it's
00:44:43
through your life or, you know, just trends being trendy. Yeah. Find what works people.
00:44:48
Well, and so we started this on the first episode of Rewind with Karen and Georgia, where we used to have these pun numbers as our titles.
00:44:58
But these days, in the current episodes, we just find phrases from the show. Should we just read these back to each other?
00:45:06
Okay, yeah. Okay, you want to go first? The first one is positive verbal energies, which is us describing each other, like describing ourselves.
00:45:17
That sounds right. This one's put on a towel. I remember that because that's like part of the story and you're like, yeah, put on the towel.
00:45:26
The cutest army, which was us talking about if we could control cats and make them an army.
00:45:31
We read your books, meaning we're not giving facts. So, yeah, you know, important. I'm so patient.
00:45:38
Diner talk. They should have fist fought. Reagan versus RFK. Bowls of medication.
00:45:45
And fountains of Prozac. I have one more that I wrote down that you said, a Jamba Juice of facts.
00:45:54
Yeah, if your Jamba Juice doesn't have orange juice, bananas, protein powder, or strawberries.
00:45:59
Right, right. It's like the fewest facts at any Jamba Juice. It's a menagerie of artificial flavors.
00:46:10
Should we wrap it up? Wrap it up? Yeah. Go to Facebook page. Facebook page go to any Facebook page
00:46:20
anyone and visit people and just live your life digitally yeah don't leave your house
00:46:27
you're going to get murdered if you leave your house and definitely talk about us
00:46:30
on Facebook page yeah talk about us on Facebook page and tell everyone on Reddit to listen
00:46:35
I feel like Reddit people would like this podcast a lot but I'm not on Reddit I thought
00:46:39
it might be frustrating to some Reddit types who like facts facts and like a fluidly chronologically told story.
00:46:48
Please. Again, go watch the documentary. This is not what we're here for. We're like a puree.
00:46:57
We're like a jamba juice of facts. Yeah. Yeah, that. We're like one of those two guys in Vegas
00:47:07
who play with tigers. Yep. We're those guys in tigers. We're not going to find out the history of tigers
00:47:12
and what they're about. you're going to see the best part of the tiger and our tans and our tans yeah yeah our teeth
00:47:20
our tans and the best part of the time and hopefully don't get mauled by our tiger which
00:47:25
is the murders that that can i just say this and then we'll stop please the day that there was the
00:47:31
story in the paper of how the um it was either siegfried or rory i can't remember which one got
00:47:36
attacked but the day that was in the paper about him being mauled by the tiger was the same day
00:47:42
that they caught the Green River Killer. And I remember going from, I was reading the LA Times
00:47:47
and it went from like one small story, turn the page, the other small story where I was like,
00:47:52
both of these stories are the hugest thing to happen in the last 20 years. And they're both like four column times.
00:48:00
Tiny, tiny stories. People don't know what's important anymore. No, they really don't.
00:48:03
You know? It's like our media man is like telling us how to live. Yeah. Well, that's a good, I like that.
00:48:10
That's a little tie, a little bow tie on there. I tied it up. Good job. Hey, listen to us on other stuff.
00:48:16
And go to us on other places. We have other things. We live other lives sometimes.
00:48:21
But we're slowly building so that this takes over everything. Yeah. Make sure this takes over everything for your life too.
00:48:27
Yeah. Get obsessed with this. Yeah. There you go. We're Karen and Georgia. Thanks for listening.
00:48:32
Thanks. So, all right. Well, that's another episode of Rewind in the can. Should we keep doing them?
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