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Hello and welcome to My Favorite Murder. That is Georgia Hartstark. And that is Karen Kilgareff.
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And today we are so thrilled to be talking to the two people you might already know.
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She is a film programmer and historian. He's a filmmaker. And they just ended a critically acclaimed four-year run on the podcast, I Saw What You Did.
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And now they're back with a new show that premieres Tuesday, January 28th on the Exactly Right Network.
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It's called Dear Movies, I Love You. Please welcome Millie DeCerico and Casey O'Brien.
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Woo! Hello! Hi! Guys, could you tell we were reading off a teleprompter? Oh, it's felt really good, though.
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Pros. We're just pros at this. How would you guys synopsize what you're doing on your podcast?
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Or like what the, you know, what's your elevator pitch of the podcast? It's the vibe.
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Yeah, well, you know, it's the name of the podcast is Dear Movies, I Love You. So it is kind of, you know, we say it's a, you know, having a crush on movies.
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It's an infatuation with movies. It's a sincere celebration of film and film culture.
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and we just want it to be accessible to people because, you know, Millie and I, we can get in the weeds about like art house bullshit,
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but we like, but we want to talk about it in a way that's like fun. And we also, we like highbrow,
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we like really lowbrow too. And so we want it to be like an inviting, fun, cute podcast.
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Yeah, Millie, anything to add to that? Well, you know, I think I'm gonna get deep,
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perhaps a little deeper than Casey's just revealed. I personally, when I was, I'm kidding.
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You're not the himbo of the podcast, by the way. You're fine. You're not a film himbo, as I've heard in the past.
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I really, I think over the past couple of years, especially during COVID, especially
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during, I don't know, just like living and life and bad news and, you know, things happening
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in the world. I started really thinking about like my relationship to movies because, you know, as a person,
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who like lives alone and, um, you know, a lot of, uh, and has worked in movies for over 20 years.
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I started thinking about like, what, like, do I have an emotional relationship with movies? Like,
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of course they're entertaining. Of course it's my job. Of course it's an intellectual pursuit,
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I guess. But what's like my emotional relationship to it? Like, do they do things for me? Are they my,
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or comfort? Are they my partner for crying out loud? I mean, honestly. And I started thinking about it in that way where I was like, I don't know, like, I think they are like, it's the one thing that has consistently stayed in my life that has been like my refuge from all the bullshit. Right. And there's some kind of I don't know, I have this like, you know, deep feeling of appreciation for like what the art form, I guess, if you want to call it that has done for my life in that emotional kind of way.
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And so that's why I think when we were like, how, what's the vibe? You know, I was like, I don't know.
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We just love movies. We're like in love with movies. We, we like have crushes on movies.
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And Casey like immediately was like, of course, like I get it, you know? And so I don't know.
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I think that that's sort of, I think what the podcast is also about is it's about sort of
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like being in love with this wacky world that we're in and, you know, just sort of, I don't
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know like being very earnest and sincere about it so yeah and i think there's a lot of like
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judgment about like what movies you like or like what movies affect you the most like it's very
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easy to be like oh that's a you know people will throw you know i said this even earlier where i
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was like this is a stupid movie like i can't hardly wait or 10 things i hate about you but
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those make me feel a certain way and that is meaningful to me and so i think our movie one
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Our podcast wants to kind of you know hold up all types of films and make them you know celebrate them equally And they meaningful equally It more about like how these movies make us feel rather than you know the intellectual value
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that something has, if that makes sense. Yeah. And what I love about that too is,
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I mean, it kind of reminds me of our podcast and even though true crime has nothing to do
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with what you guys are doing, but it's finding your people too who can talk about this one movie for hours,
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even if they don't like it with you. And, you know, yeah, like the two of you found each other
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and then your audience and your listeners are going to be like, absolutely. Or no, you're wrong,
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but you're still connecting in a way that's hard to do these days. It feels like everyone's just kind of having these,
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you know, superficial connections. But if you have this like interest that you're so passionate about,
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you can really connect with people. Yeah, I feel like, And, you know, listeners, when you listen to episode one, like there you'll get that kind of that party.
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It's like movie party vibe where like the first time I listened to it, just your guys's chit chat where each topic and each movie and each thing that came up, it was like all in like super interest, super passion.
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And but then also just like these different takes where it's like, you know, waxing poetic about the Magic Mike trilogy where it's like, I never thought about that before.
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That's really true. Like just that kind of thing where I was like, you can be you can be deep and analytical kind of about anything you want as long as you like it enough.
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And it felt like that, you know. Thank you. Yeah. There's also like an episode that we have coming up that I really love because it we're talking about a movie that Casey is extremely passionate about.
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And it's like a movie like basically that his the movie that radicalized him, that made him a film person, quote unquote.
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And it was we and it was a movie that I had a very different opinion on. And we talk all that out in a way that I think is really cool.
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Like, just because there was something that he loves and connects with that didn't really get me in the same way.
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I was so, like, interested in just hearing him talk about it and hearing his relationship with it and sort of, like, what he liked about it.
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And I don't know. I mean, I feel like that is something that our podcast is doing and will do really well is just having that mutual respect for each other's taste.
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I mean, honestly, like, and that's something that I think is a thing that makes film people so annoying or intimidating is that you have, like, like I said, like the wrong taste, you have bad taste, you don't like the right things.
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and I don't really see it that way ever. I don't ever see people having that. Like, I don't, I would rather listen
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and be fascinated by your passion for something than just shitting on you for liking a movie I don't like.
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Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I love that. Yeah. So you guys on your podcast usually start
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by telling each other the movies that you've watched recently. What movies have you watched recently?
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Millie, you go first. Oh God, I gotta pull out my phone. Letterboxd. Uh-oh, she's gonna go.
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She has to be legit. I got to be legit. Did you watch a movie today? I watched a movie last night in the past.
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So it's been the past 24 hours. I watched this movie called Better Man. Have you heard of this movie?
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Is this the Robbie Williams movie? It is the Robbie Williams animatronic monkey.
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Where he's a monkey? Yes. What? Actually, it's not animatronic. It's like weird CGI, right?
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Yeah. that movie to me was so much better than it had any right to be. I don't know why.
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I was like expecting to go in and be like, this is going to be one of the most genuinely bizarre,
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like weird outsider art things of our generation. And I was like, it's actually kind of good.
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Like legit good. Wow. Yeah. Good for Robbie. Yeah. I mean, he was a superstar. Yeah.
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Well, that's that's what I think is so fascinating about it, to be honest, because I'm like, OK, they let this movie happen like now where it's like, here's a star who who was essentially not as famous here in America as he was, you know, in Europe, who hasn't really been around for like 20 years.
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And he is a monkey. And like I'm like, it's his life story. I was like, wow, I can't believe that they let that happen.
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I was actually really impressed that that happened. So anyway. Wow. I feel like the whole narrative with Robbie Williams is like, nobody knows about him in
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America. And then like this movie came out and it was like, this movie is bombing in America.
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And it's like, we don't know who he is. Why don't we go see this movie? Right. You've never seen this monkey.
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We don't, we can't support this monkey. We don't know him. Casey, what did you watch recently?
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Okay. So I watched this movie called, and I was really weeping during this movie.
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Truly Madly Deeply. Have you ever seen this movie? Which one's that? It's like my favorite movie of all time.
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Oh, it is? What? Yes. I had never, I had like seen bits of it, but I watched it the other night and it's so beautiful
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and touching. It came out in like 1990. It's with Alan Rickman and- Yes, you told me about it.
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Yeah, Juliette Stevenson. Juliette Stevenson. And basically the premise is her boyfriend, Alan Rickman, dies, is dead.
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This is not a spoiler. This happened, this is the beginning of the movie. but he comes back as a ghost and it's it's so romantic and sweet and silly and i was like this
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is like one of my new favorite movies of all time i'm not even kidding it was it was literally writing
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it down right now well also because it so heavy like they do they don try to clean anything up it not the american version of if a girl boyfriend died that she lived with and obviously is her life partner It is like there a scene I think it begins with a scene where she at the therapist
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sobbing and trying to explain how isolated she feels because he's gone and she's walking
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around and all these people are living life and whatever. And she's ugly crying to a degree where it is like I was like, who is this woman?
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Yes, she's incredible. She's such a good actress. It's like showing grief the way it really is, which is so hard for anyone to like do if you don't understand.
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And the end, total no spoiler, but also be careful because of me because I don't keep my promises.
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But essentially the reveal, should I not say the reveal? Don't say the reveal. I don't want to know.
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Okay, okay. Because that reveal when I first watched it, and same, Casey, where it was me, my friend Dave Messmer, who we worked at The Gap together, and his friend, and she's the one that was like, we have to watch this movie. And all three of us were sobbing at the end, like together sobbing.
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It was crazy. And it was just one of those weird, like, it's just the perfect 90s, like, real life. I don't know.
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Yeah, I mean, I was immediately when the movie started, and it's like happy tears.
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I feel like I felt good at the end of it. It's not like a downer. It's a happy movie, I think.
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Okay. It's beautiful. It's really beautiful. And I really, I truly, madly, deeply loved it.
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And who's the director? Do you remember our fans? Yes, it's Anthony Manguella, who did The English Patient and The Talented Mr. Ripley.
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It was his first movie. Oh, so good. Yeah. Wow. It's his first movie. Yeah, really good.
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The thing, how did I miss that, is if I haven't missed every single fucking movie that has come out in the past.
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You're not movie people, which I think is like this would be a perfect podcast for you because it's, I think, Casey and Millie kind of pulling people into the movie world like it's going to be okay.
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We're with you. Come in. You know what I am? I'm a, I find a movie I like and I watch it 40 times and there's no other, and I don't watch any other movies.
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It's not like, I love this director. I'm going to watch all their movies. I don't do that.
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I do that too. I do that too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. There's no shame. That's the thing with our podcast.
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There's no shame. Yeah. We are cringe, but we are free. We say that all the time.
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We are cringe, but we're free. Exactly. Can you guys give individually or together as a team, like three movies that you would
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recommend to people who love movies but are intimidated by coming into like a cinemographic
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world? Is that the right word? Sure. coming into the world of film people. That's not so deep and like you have to understand the meaning of,
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but it'll get you to those other movies that then you can appreciate because you, you know what I mean?
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Yeah. Like what do they call them? Like gateway? Gateway. Gateway drugs. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, I guess I have a question. How do you feel about subtitles? Because for some people that's a big hurdle.
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I don't mind it. Okay. I think the gateway part, though, for like the masses, there shouldn't be.
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So maybe one out of three. One out of three. OK. Whatever is needed. Millie, do you have did any come to mind immediately?
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Yeah, I'm thinking on it. Well, this might be actually interesting exercise because Casey and I are I'm a little older than Casey.
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And I feel like this might be like this is going to be showing our generational roots, perhaps.
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You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Because I think about like what kind of got me
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into cinephilia, if you will. Like what was the movie that was the bridge between like, I don't know,
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16 Candles and I don't know, three colors red or something. I'm trying to think of something.
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I mean, I think for me- She's speaking in kind of film gibberish language right now.
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So if you didn't understand that, don't worry, everybody. Well, I mean, to me, I think when I first kind of was like in high school and in college and I was kind of making that jump.
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I mean, honestly, I think it was a lot of the American independent stuff from the 90s.
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So like I'm thinking of things like, you know, Jim Jarmusch, Stranger Than Paradise or Down
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by Law or, you know, Alison Anders, Gas Food Lodging, you know, this kind of stuff that
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was sort of like in the kind of indie cinema stuff in the 90s. That's what I was kind of like, oh, yeah, there was like, you know, SNL comedies and
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then there's this. Right. And so that's kind of how I started kind of getting into like more of a kind of cinema world. Right. But then I also think to stuff like Stanley Kubrick's like The Shining that those types of movies that are kind of like horror, but then kind of what they would call maybe like elevated horror now, which drives me crazy.
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But, you know, in a way, it's like, here's a horror movie, which is kind of traditionally a genre that brings in a lot of like young people.
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It's kind of broad audience stuff. But then like it's a little bit more stylish and is a little bit more open ended in terms of themes.
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So maybe something like that, like The Shining. And then for a third, I mean, I got to say, I mean, again, this is sort of like maybe for a little people who are a little bit younger.
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but like those like early Wes Anderson movies, like Bob or like, I mean, Rushmore was kind of my favorite out of that stuff.
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But you know, even like Royal Tenenbaums, I feel like that kind of stuff would take,
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would basically set you up in terms of, okay, so here like an auteurist director who has who building a sort of cinema language for his work You know what I mean And that kind of I don know maybe if you kind of getting into that kind of stuff
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that would be like a good entry point. That's perfect. Yeah. Actually, my niece, Sophie,
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texted me because she went and saw The Shining at the theater and she was like, hey, I just saw
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The Shining. You've seen that, right? And I was just like, this is so weird. Of course. I was like,
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yes of course she's like it was so good it was crazy and i'm like yeah it was like the cutest
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kind of discovery moment that she wanted she brought to me because she was like i feel like
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you're the kind of person that would appreciate that movie and i'm like yes i do i really do
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yeah i would say i think that's right on i think there are some like gateway directors that are
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like kind of like how, you know, cinephiles sort of like found their way into movies.
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For my age, you know, Millie mentioned I'm very young that. So like I would say Paul Thomas Anderson is a really good director to kind of
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follow his career because he did like Boogie Nights, which is a arthouse film, I would say,
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but also like a major studio film. Um, but then, you know, he did like, there will be blood a few years later, which is a lot, I would say darker and weirder.
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And, um, that was like nominated for like best picture and stuff, but it kind of is a good way to like get into, um, more of the like highbrow, you know, cinephile movies.
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um and then so that's like more on the easier end and i would say like you know we're recording this
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today one of the great film directors died david lynch my favorite director and uh he's like a
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great that he's kind of you have to if you want to get into film you have to see some of his movies
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And I would say the entry point for that, for him, would be Blue Velvet, I would say.
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It's a weird, it feels weird. It feels like this is like no other movie I've ever seen.
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But the plot makes sense. And you can understand why things are happening, where that cannot be said for most of his other movies.
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So that's like a good, if you want to get into David Lynch, I would say start with Blue Velvet.
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You know, I think that's so true. That's why Mulholland Drive is one of my favorite movies of all time is because the first time I watched it, I was like, there's no plot.
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I don't get it. Totally. Like, there's, you know, it's just a movie. There's no plot.
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And then I watched it again and I was like, holy fuck. Like, the way it blew my mind that when I could finally follow the plot blew it so hard that nothing has ever lived up to that again.
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Yeah. I totally agree because we did that movie for like one of the last episodes of I Saw What You Did.
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and I had seen it like maybe twice in the past once when it came out which I was totally with
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you Georgia like was like I don't know what's going on whatever yeah it's a vibe I guess it's
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a vibe yeah but I don't know anything um and then the second time I watched it I was you know like
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maybe sort of getting into it a little bit more but then when we we watched it for the episode
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I had this like revelation and I was like I know everything about this movie and I wanted like a
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I told Danielle, I was like, we're going to have to really watch the clock because I could talk about this movie for like four or five hours.
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I have so much to say. It's like everything clicks together all of a sudden. Yes.
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I love it. When I saw that movie, my friend Danny and I hated it so much that like five days later, we were at a barbecue together.
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And a guy we did not know happened to nearby us say that he liked that movie. and we harangued him until he left the party because we were like what are you talking about
00:22:00
that which is of course our very their very 90s personality which was lauded back then when you
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were just like overtly hostile for no reason to every single person but it was this thing of like
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i don't know what you're talking about but it's like of course that's what david lynch is trying
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to get you to do yeah he's like do you like this or do you absolutely hate it okay here's a little
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more like I just think that part of it is making people who maybe wouldn't even think to do it
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suddenly talk about movies know what they like about movies like know that their opinion counts
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about movies it's cool yeah totally we RIP to a great one yeah yeah it's it spums me out
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not as a huge movie person but just like having a weirdo in the world is like really comforting
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You know, like Paul Rubin's kind of a thing where it's like, it's comforting to know there are people out there doing whatever the fuck they want to do.
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Well, I think David Lynch is special as an artist outside of like the movies he made because his whole thing was like, you do not need to suffer to make great art.
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That was like his big message. And I think that a lot of people feel like when you make art or any sort of like project, you're like, you need to die for this.
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You need to starve yourself, you know? And I feel like David Lynch was very much like, no, you need to be like, it's better to be a happy person making art.
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And you can still make art about dark things. And God knows he did. But it's like, you still need to, like, take care of yourself.
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about truly madly because that's like it's literally like I made that movie nobody knows
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that movie ever and like I'm always telling people you gotta watch it I was shocked I looked
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on letterboxd and like no one I follow has watched it and I was surprised because I was like this
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it's just it's an incredible film you Casey you have like in the past have done this very similar
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thing where you have pulled out like this unknown rom-com and have become like its number one fan
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i think that's lovely about wow oh this is like fucking weird rom-com that no one's seen in like
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30 years casey five stars i'll let her boxed now nobody else i know has seen it and then i'm
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compelled to go watch it so i'm a lover i'm a feeler and i love digging up these these rom-coms
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No one's watching. I love it. Casey, are you so excited to finally get some fucking attention in this podcasting world?
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No longer a producer. Yeah, you've been behind the scenes now. Oh my God, finally.
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Yes, I get to emerge from behind the, I don't know. The sweet spot. Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I'm thrilled.
00:27:02
I mean, it was such an honor that Millie, you know, reached her hand down into the gutter
00:27:07
and pulled me out of it and allowed me to be on this pod. You're like Pennywise down there.
00:27:12
Yeah, Pennywise, yeah. How did you guys like come to that idea that you like this is a movie podcast?
00:27:20
Like what was the thinking behind all of that? Well, like I saw what you did was ending and Millie wanted to do another show.
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And I was kind of like, well, I was like, please let me produce it. So that was sort of the impetus.
00:27:37
Just, you know, Millie making a new movie show. Yeah, we joked about this. we joke about this in the pilot episode actually
00:27:45
I don't know if I should say it but that I was like basically like Bradley Cooper in A Star Is Born
00:27:51
and I like found Casey the Lady Gaga character like doing a little burlesque in a shitty bar and I was like
00:27:59
come in my limo I'm gonna make a star movie no I was like here's the thing about Casey like I have
00:28:05
heard him on other podcasts before and he's so charismatic so funny knows a lot about
00:28:11
movies like has well like you know when you when you hear people or you meet people that have cut
00:28:16
like you know you have like similar opinions about things and it's like yes they get they would get
00:28:21
me oh yeah yeah very crucial for me i just have to say by personality i need to be understood that
00:28:28
is like my lot in life um and so i was like oh here's somebody who i think we line on a lot of
00:28:35
similar stuff and we're not like the types to like the same things that's what i'm saying which i
00:28:40
love I love that we don't like the same things necessarily but our reasons for liking and hating
00:28:46
things are the same if that makes sense you respect that the other person's wrong essentially
00:28:52
or like the reason why you don't like something is the reason why I wouldn't like something right
00:28:57
you know even though those two things would probably were different I guess totally yeah
00:29:02
but I would hear him on these other podcasts and yeah I mean it was just like well I want to do a
00:29:06
show with him does he want to do a show with me is the yeah the eternal question totally yeah yeah
00:29:12
I mean it was just so funny Millie I feel like up until recently you're like just checking in
00:29:17
you want to do this show with me right and um no I mean I I feel like Millie and I always like
00:29:22
I we always connected really well and um I wanted to keep working with her if she wanted to keep
00:29:29
making podcasts so that was sort of the like the beginning of the show we want to get a sense of
00:29:36
through the move, we're just trying to do the movie thing along with you. We want to get a sense of who you are as people.
00:29:42
What do you get when you go to the movie theater? What is your snack combination?
00:29:47
This is a great question. And actually, I feel like a lot of our show is like about the like movie watching ritual
00:29:53
to like what we do when we watch movies I always get popcorn and I always try to get a cherry coke those are kind of my go it hard for me to incorporate candy into it because i if i need the
00:30:08
i need the pop and then i need but the candy in the pop is just too much sweetness so i don't know
00:30:15
that's the popcorn and cherry coke is my go-to that's lovely that's nice the popcorn thing is
00:30:21
absolutely like I movie theater popcorn always gives me a stomach ache but I don't care me too
00:30:27
it's like the problem I was just like I don't care if I'm on the toilet for like three days
00:30:31
after this I have to go I have to eat it like I don't know what it is yeah and then I'm with you
00:30:36
Casey like what I started I was always for a very long time the peanut m&ms on top of the popcorn
00:30:42
yes yes uh 100 which I used to call like trail mix it's like it's like trail mix this is healthy
00:30:49
right but then lately i've been because i yeah i don't want to get the soda if you're getting candy
00:30:56
so i switch and now it's either that i get the popcorn and a coke icy oh you know which is the
00:31:06
only time i ever drink full flavor coke i usually do not drink i usually do like diet or coke zero
00:31:14
or, you know. But in an icy, it's the most delicious thing of all time. I have to.
00:31:19
So good. So it's either that and then I alternate with the peanut M&Ms, but always popcorn.
00:31:25
Can I ask you guys a question? You guys are all movie goers. I don't go to the theater.
00:31:31
And I've always wondered this. Are you supposed to finish your snacks before the movie starts?
00:31:36
That always blew my mind. It's like you have to save it and you're supposed to eat it before, right?
00:31:41
I can't help myself sometimes. You mean like in the 15 minutes of trailers and stuff?
00:31:46
Yeah. And then everyone stops eating when the movie starts. So I feel self-conscious chewing loudly.
00:31:53
Wait, so you feel self-conscious chewing when the movie has started? You think you need to scarf the food?
00:31:59
It seems like everyone else finishes their... I don't know if it was like a rule that I just didn't fucking know.
00:32:05
I don't. I've never finished my snacks before. Okay. I mean not to say it's like it's not like I've haven't put this put a serious dent in but to me
00:32:14
part of the joy of like the big bucket of popcorn and watching a movie is like this zone out and
00:32:20
just insane just like okay just shoveling it into your face in the dark that's the fun of it
00:32:27
okay that's good to know I a lot of times I do I don't know if it's to completion but I
00:32:35
I'm like 75% there. Me too. That's exactly what I was going to say. I'm 75% there.
00:32:43
You know, I'm peaking at the right when the movie starts and then I can pick my spots
00:32:48
when I, it's not out of respect though. It's out of just being gross and I'm like,
00:32:54
I'm starving. Yeah. And then sometimes I do a thing where I will, you know, go to that 75% and then save the 25 and then we'll dip it.
00:33:05
like an hour into the film. So I'll just like pick it back up again. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's like, I remember I had this.
00:33:13
But yeah, I'm housing that shit. Like I'm like. Hell yeah. Okay, it's good to know.
00:33:19
Honestly, I'm like. Don't worry about those other people. I have a follow up to that question,
00:33:24
which is who's the most famous person you've ever seen at the concession stand at the Arclight here in Los Angeles?
00:33:30
Oh, shit. Oh, man. Danielle and I saw somebody that was on Seinfeld, not as a main character, but some recurring,
00:33:44
and now I can't remember who it was. Was it like a Patrick Warburton or something like that?
00:33:50
Oh, yeah. Or the guy with the white hair. Yeah, it was definitely some beloved side character
00:33:57
from Seinfeld we saw at the Arclight. The Arclight was a good place to spot celebrities,
00:34:03
I feel like, or like known people. I don't know why this guy popped into my head,
00:34:09
but I was seeing Nope at the Arclight. I think it was Nope, or it was Us, one of the Jordan Peele movies,
00:34:15
and Tom Morello was getting popcorn. A Rage Against the Machine guitarist was getting popcorn.
00:34:22
That is a good one. I was always so jealous whenever I would hear the stories of Keanu Reeves going to the Arclight.
00:34:28
Oh, yeah. And I was like, when does he go? Oh, and how come I'm not there at the same time?
00:34:34
I saw him at the Beverly Center. You got to go to the mall, too. I know. The Beverly Center.
00:34:39
I mean, the only reason I wrote that question in was because I saw Colin Farrell at the
00:34:45
Concession Stand. So I reverse engineered that entire thing simply to be able to tell that story again.
00:34:51
Oh, man, we're Farrell for Farrell. We are. We're a pro-Farrell podcast. We know this.
00:34:57
How could you be anti? I challenge you, but I swear to God, I felt him coming from like 500 paces.
00:35:06
I was just like, what's this? There's electricity in the air down here in the lower concession area.
00:35:11
And then I looked over. There he was. Glasses, headband, weird workout clothes. He absolutely was like, the aura was like 20 feet in front of him.
00:35:22
He knew it. We all knew it. It was amazing. It's like an angel. Yeah. Movie stars at the movies.
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00:37:14
Besides finishing all the amazing food? What radicalized you in the movie theater?
00:37:19
Millie had kind of a crazy one recently. This isn't a good memory, but this is something bad that happened
00:37:25
where someone was doing a firecracker during Furiosa. Shut up. What happened? It was insane.
00:37:34
Did you do it? Oh, no, I wish. No, it was an hour into Furiosa. Oh, shit. All I know is that it was packed.
00:37:45
It was like the Thursday that it came out. So it was like no empty seat. And then all of a sudden you would see,
00:37:53
you saw this like fireball sail through the air. Jesus. Landed in like the first like five rows of seats.
00:38:01
And then everybody just jumped up. Yeah. And every, like the whole theater, it was like,
00:38:06
we were in this like frozen moment of, we were like waiting for an explosion or something.
00:38:11
It was like really hard. So everybody was like stood up, And like kind of moving towards the emergency exits, but nobody was, we were kind of like frozen waiting to see like what would happen with the fire.
00:38:24
Like either it was going to just fizzle out, explode. Somebody was going to like get burned.
00:38:31
We were just waiting for something to happen. And then by the time anything was supposed to happen, the fire alarm got pulled and they were like clearing people out.
00:38:42
So we had to leave. Anyway. You can't do that. These fucking that's an 80s trick. And this movie theater, I'm going to I'm going to call this movie theater out in Atlanta. Chronically, there's always teenage antics at this place.
00:38:59
and if you every time because this is not the first time i there's been some malarkey here
00:39:05
and like this is the problem with the movies is that it's not just teenagers running uh you know
00:39:12
scams but it's like the teenagers run the place so they're in cahoots uh and so nothing gets done
00:39:18
there's no policy that gets enacted because of this and so uh every time something has happened
00:39:26
in this movie theater, including the fireworks saga, I have asked one of my friends that has kids,
00:39:33
I was like, is it a school holiday? And they were like, yes. And I'm like, so the messaging is that
00:39:40
on a school holiday, the kids go to the movie theater and cause trouble. So now I stay away.
00:39:46
Yeah. Yeah. They're like, that's their way to party. This is what I think every movie's like.
00:39:50
That's why I don't. It's always firecrackers. especially that movie is it's already so tense and so much going on yeah and it was like we had
00:40:02
to get we got a pass to come back to see the last hour of it like an hour into it it was so annoying
00:40:09
but um i don't know casey what about you do you have any memorable film or uh movie theater
00:40:18
experience uh well i mean i kind of talked about this on one of our episodes the where i had to
00:40:24
like yell at those old people because they were in my seat i've had a lot of issues with people
00:40:29
sitting in my seat when it's a reserved seat i don't know how you both feel about uh the reserved
00:40:34
seats in the movie theaters but i like it i like having a reserved seat for myself and my wife and
00:40:39
i were in the theater it was like a sold out theater we were seeing the big short and we got
00:40:45
there right when the movie started and there were these uh i go to the the this is at the arc light
00:40:52
and i go to like the guy working i'm like where are our seats i can't even see it's so dark and
00:40:56
he's like they're up there but i can see that there's a guy sitting in your seat so you're
00:41:00
gonna have to ask him to move and i'm like oh god so basically it was this elderly couple and they're
00:41:06
imagine there are four seats and they own they own two of them but they're sitting in the middle and
00:41:12
And we own two of them, but they're sitting in the middle two. And so they have to.
00:41:17
No, you can't do that. I'm sorry. I'm angry. They have to scoot over one, you know, to make room for us.
00:41:23
And so I go up and I'm like, hi, sir, you are in my seat. And he's like, what? And I was like, and the movie has started.
00:41:31
And I was like, oh, you're in my seat. I paid for these seats. And his wife is like, what's going on?
00:41:40
And I'm like, oh, my God. I was like, please. And the movie has started. And I'm like, please move over one seat.
00:41:46
And then the people behind them are like, why are these people standing in the middle of the movie?
00:41:51
And I was like, this is my ticket. Move over one And finally they did get the message and move over one But that was a pretty harrowing experience Then you have to sit next to them the whole fucking time Hold on a second though Just to devil advocate
00:42:05
Okay. Why were you so late? That's what my mom said to me too. She was like, well, it's your fault.
00:42:10
You were late to the movie. Have some respect. That's true. I can't deny I was wrong for being late to the movie.
00:42:20
The last time we went to the movies, it was a very similar situation, except for I was the late one.
00:42:25
And the movie theater for some, it was in my hometown. It was so dark inside the movie theater
00:42:31
that I couldn't find the rows walking, like the letter row walking up and no idea what the number of seat.
00:42:38
So my cousin is up there somewhere and I walk halfway down and it's pitch black.
00:42:44
Like I can't see anything. And it's one of those ones where, you know, the newfangled movie theater seats
00:42:49
where it's like a lazy boy recline. So I'm walking really slow because I don't want to slam my shins into a recliner thing.
00:42:58
And I just am like guessing as to where my seat would be or where my cousin is. And so I'm bending over and trying to look into people's faces.
00:43:06
Like halfway down, walking really slow. And I just go like, Anna? And then this girl just goes, no.
00:43:14
And then I just so I keep going. And then I just end up very slowly running into the wall.
00:43:20
because it was one of those small theaters that doesn't have stairs on either side.
00:43:25
It was just like, I just got to the end by touching my nose to a carpeted wall. That hurts me.
00:43:31
It was so embarrassing. That is just so scary though. It's so, it can be so dark in there.
00:43:37
And there's like, you know, there's like dozens of people sitting quietly and you're like trying to navigate them.
00:43:42
I mean, it's like a horror movie. And they can see you fine because their eyes are adjusted.
00:43:46
And it was the beginning of a complete unknown where the guys, it's so dark and they're in a hospital
00:43:52
while someone is dying of a degenerative disease. And you're like, and? So when I hit the wall,
00:43:58
my cousin Sophie is the one that's there. And she goes, did you just run into the wall?
00:44:02
And I'm like, thanks for your help. And she goes, I couldn't see you. I didn't know it was you until you started laughing.
00:44:08
That's so funny you said that because I saw that movie in the theater too. And the opening, the first like five minutes
00:44:15
of A Complete Unknown is so dark that I thought, I was about to go to the projection booth and be like,
00:44:21
could you like, I don't know if the, you know, the movie is playing right or whatever.
00:44:25
And I, cause I, there were people just like you who were like fumbling, stumbling because it was so,
00:44:31
I was like, why is this going to be so dark? I don't understand where we're at. It was crazy.
00:44:36
Yeah. Wild. Should we let you guys host a little bit? You know, you guys host like it's your podcast.
00:44:44
You go. Yeah. We have a few questions here. lined up. Millie, what should we start with here? Oh, gosh, I don't know. You know, this is,
00:44:55
we were talking about, you know, kind of what we're going to do for this podcast, like,
00:44:59
how we're going to set it up. And what are these like, questions that we want to ask our guests,
00:45:05
right? And one of the things that came to mind, I mean, again, like this, this podcast that we're
00:45:10
doing is also about like movie culture. So, you know, we're talking about not just like movie
00:45:15
theater going, but like, like video stores and, you know, just stuff that if you're into movies
00:45:22
or there's like these little rituals, these little, you know, little things that we do.
00:45:27
And, um, one of the questions that we like to ask is imagine that you're in a video store.
00:45:35
And so if you're, you know, going through the video store, what's like the first VHS or DVD
00:45:42
cover that comes to mind when you enter into a store. Do you have yours? I do. Oh, good, good.
00:45:50
It's not going to be the same for sure. It'd be amazing if it was, though. Say it at the same time.
00:45:54
One, two, three. Twins. A fish called Wanda. Oh, a fish called Wanda. I can see both of those perfectly in my head.
00:46:03
Oh, my God. So much. Absolutely. Why is that? Twins. For some reason, that's the one with Schwarzenegger.
00:46:11
Danny DeVito, yeah. Yeah. Now, what's your relationship with that movie, Georgia? Do you have a relationship?
00:46:17
Yes. I was the right age and every other weekend at my dad's house, my single dad. And so we had a
00:46:23
we would have to rent a VCR from the video store. We're going to do that. And so we just fucking
00:46:31
love that movie and watch the shit out of it. I'm sure it's so inappropriate for children.
00:46:35
now yeah okay very good um and karen what about a fish called wanda do you have any relationship
00:46:42
with that movie well the first thing i saw was kevin klein with his like balancing on something
00:46:48
which actually could be from a different movie but i'm picturing him like i feel like he had that
00:46:54
spate this run of movies from like 84 to 95 where it was like that he would he it would be kevin
00:47:01
Klein on the spine of a VHS tape, like balancing on a chair or like having a mustache.
00:47:08
Both these movies are posing for the cover. Yeah. Like they're not like take a clip from the movie.
00:47:13
They're like the cast. Yes. They're posing. I totally see it. The visual part. But I think the Kevin Klein, anything he was doing, I wanted to be there for it.
00:47:23
And my family would be too. Like A Fish Called Wanda made my parents laugh so hard.
00:47:29
It was one of those kinds of that and the four seasons like where you're like, what's going on that they like this so much?
00:47:36
And then it made me pay more attention to like the actual comedy because I was interested in like what what what was everyone doing that was eliciting that response?
00:47:45
Yeah, they weren't because they were not easy laughers and they were like crying laughing.
00:47:50
So I think it was that piece of it where it's like kind of what our family liked a little bit.
00:47:55
It is funny because I feel like you mentioned that they like, these are both like posing for
00:48:00
or the poster. And I feel like that's such a lost art. Everything's Photoshopped now,
00:48:04
or it's like a still taken from the movie or something, but like very poorly too.
00:48:08
These weird, like it looks like a Hallmark movie poster, but it's like a big budget movie.
00:48:14
Yeah. I don't know if people, they just can't be, you know, these stars can't, don't want to get back together for a fun little shoot or something,
00:48:21
but right. Get in front of that white psychic. That's right. Sell this thing. Well,
00:48:27
very good. That's a, I love that. Millie, you know what? I don't feel like you have answered that question. What's like the VHS cover that comes to your mind?
00:48:36
Well, I mean, I was such a video store loser as a kid. I mean, I was there constantly. And it was just like, you know, well, first of all, my parents never let us go to the movie theater. They were too cheap to let us go to first run movies.
00:48:51
So we were at the video store constantly. And all of my good memories from video stores come from the horror movie section.
00:49:00
It's just what clicked in my brain. And so I think for me, the first one that comes to mind is the cover for a movie called Happy Birthday to Me.
00:49:11
and it's a basically a shish kebab skewer going through the guy's mouth into the back of his head
00:49:22
happy birthday to me i have never even heard of this movie what oh my god it's a classic yeah
00:49:30
oh yeah yeah that's it was in the like a solid horror section which i wouldn't necessarily be
00:49:37
that interested in but you would kind of love the like i was thinking that would always be next to
00:49:41
like Christine and then like something else. So you'd be like, oh, I would watch a Stephen King.
00:49:46
Oh my God. Happy birthday to me. Or like the one where the, like, she will have her revenge.
00:49:52
There was some really dark late seventies horror that would get mixed in there. So then it would just be like, well, we can't rent that, but what is it?
00:49:59
Like what's happening over there? There was another one that is in that era. I think around that era, the movie was, I think the movie is called Phenomena by Dario
00:50:11
Argento, the, you know, Italian horror director, but it was called Creepers. And it was basically the, the cover was like a illustration of Jennifer Conley, the actress,
00:50:23
Jennifer Conley, with half of her face being ripped off by like insects. There's a lot of bugs in phenomena.
00:50:32
Yeah. A.K.A. Creepers. And this is just on a shelf at my height, which at the time I was probably like, what, three
00:50:39
feet tall or something. I mean, I was like, and I'm going, yeah, this is like totally ruining my life.
00:50:44
Like all of these little boxes, they were so evocative, so freaky and it just you know those are the things that I kind of gravitated towards I think yeah definitely and you were in there like staring at these boxes like you it was quiet like the library
00:50:58
and you were desperate to pick something that would actually entertain you because that was like
00:51:03
your one chance where it's like go find something and then it was like what will i pick that will
00:51:08
actually make me happy and your sibling can't just so you're gonna have to you guys have to agree on
00:51:12
it yeah that's the worst part fabulous I love talking about VHS covers in the video store
00:51:18
because I just think it's like a tie it's like when you sort of start learn like movies become
00:51:23
evocative to you at a very young age where you're like what is that I need to know what that is and
00:51:28
I think that's sort of well you know my sister and I snuck into the x-rated we pushed the curtain
00:51:33
aside and ran into the x-rated video store section yes when no one was looking how was it
00:51:39
I, I, we were, I read about this in our book. I was like, you have, I was so overwhelmed. I'm
00:51:45
like, you have to look at one and you have to pay attention. You have to like focus on it,
00:51:47
or you're not going to see anything, you know, cause I was so overwhelmed. That's really good. That's like a mature, uh, thought process going into this.
00:51:54
It's like circle, circle, circle. And I was like, just look at something. And so I looked at it,
00:51:57
it was called naked with shoes on and it blew my mind. She had like 10, you know,
00:52:03
like LA gear, tennis shoes and like scrunch socks and was like clearly naked everywhere else.
00:52:07
naked with shoes on. I was like, oh my God, that's a thing. Like I didn't realize
00:52:11
adults were like into it, naked with shoes on. That is so, such a weird concept now that I think about it
00:52:19
because like my local video store had that section as well, curtained off. So you're predictably
00:52:26
like in the family video store with like other people in your community. So you're seeing like neighbors.
00:52:33
You're seeing your pastor. You're seeing your. So it's like Then all of a sudden it's like your friend's dad like disappears behind the curtain.
00:52:43
And I'm like, yeah, that would never like that is such a weird concept. I don't know if that would happen these days.
00:52:49
Like nobody wants to be in the X rated video section while people are running twins.
00:52:56
Right. It's like a different vibe. So it's like pervs go in the back. Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:02
They don't want that for themselves. No. But they all had that, though. They did.
00:53:07
It was like, it was always like beaded curtain, kind of like, here's the sexy area.
00:53:13
Did you ever rent anything when you got older? In the beaded sexy area? No. Oh my God.
00:53:20
Yeah, me neither. I just watched The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover a bunch of times.
00:53:25
That's a great art house movie. I love it. I don't know though. It's very sexy and dirty.
00:53:30
Very sexy. And there's a lot of like pate on naked bodies. Yes, I think Helen Mirren is like covered in rotting meat, completely nude at some point in that film.
00:53:40
Sexy Yeah Yeah excellent But does she have shoes on Wow The idea that they just named it what the thing is is the funniest yeah i love it so much yeah that and i tried to look it up and i can find it like
00:53:54
it might not exist in real life it might just exist in my mind i want to ask one last question
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do you guys have a dream guest and david lynch r.i.p that would have been amazing but do either
00:54:03
of you have a dream guest i mean keanu reeves everybody's i say that every podcast i always
00:54:09
comes back. I always say Keanu Reeves. Could happen. Could. Love for that to happen.
00:54:16
He loves movies. He does. Turns out. Always has. I feel like one that I thought would,
00:54:23
I was like, if we had Martin Scorsese on our podcast, I mean, he's like such a movie lover.
00:54:28
That's why I feel like he would fit in well with our show. But, so he would be a dream guest of mine.
00:54:35
Let's put those out into the universe. Listen, I'll appeal to him as a fellow Italian,
00:54:39
American and I will start talking about, you know, cannolis and other Italian things and
00:54:46
hopefully he'll come. So, yeah, I watched a documentary forced with my dad about the automat in New York City
00:54:54
that he was in and talked very passionately about the automat and what the automat was
00:54:58
like. Yeah, it was hilarious. Yeah. No, he would be awesome. Let's do it. Yeah, that's a good one.
00:55:03
We'll get on that here at Exactly Right. We're going to do everything we can. All right.
00:55:07
Do you guys have, is there anything else you want to talk about or plug or anything?
00:55:11
No, we just really, we just really are so thankful for you both, uh, for, you know,
00:55:16
uh, respecting the vision and, and, and helping us get it going. And we're just so happy to be back doing film podcasts with Exactly Right.
00:55:27
I mean, I had such a great experience the first time. And like, when we were talking about ending, you know, I saw what you did.
00:55:34
I was like, no, I want to stay. Don't pull me out of my dream. So I was, you know, like really, really excited that we kind of kept it in the fam, you know, with Casey.
00:55:45
And I don't know. I'm just really, really excited about what we can do. And we hope that everybody enjoys it and takes a listen.
00:55:52
Yeah. I mean, it was an easy hell yes when we heard the pitch. It was just like fucking absolutely.
00:55:58
I can't wait to see what you guys do. Yeah, it's great. It's exciting. It's great.
00:56:03
I will definitely miss I saw what you did because as a film historian and a great writer, Millie, you just would kind of present these the movies that you and Danielle would talk through.
00:56:13
And it would be like Danielle would just be kind of the the person who's like, oh, I just saw this for the first time.
00:56:18
And then you would be you would present the kind of the other side of like, well, here are all the things I know about this.
00:56:24
And it's so deeply interesting to me because you are so good at that and you have been doing it for so long.
00:56:30
But listening to the two of you guys talk and it much more kind of like up conversational recommendations What going on It day and date It almost like a little it like your movie newsletter as opposed to your movie thesis
00:56:44
which both so valid, but you guys as a combination is just like so charming and easy to listen to
00:56:50
as a podcast. So great. Thank you. Oh, one thing I want to pitch is, or a plug, I should say is the softies,
00:56:58
the band, the softies, they do the theme song to our show and they're one of my favorite bands.
00:57:03
and were an inspiration to kind of the vibe of the podcast. So it was like such a thrill to have them do the theme song.
00:57:09
So if I'm plugging anything, they have a new album, The Bed I Made. You can listen to that.
00:57:14
But they did the- I love it. I love them. That's exciting. Yeah, it's the perfect-
00:57:17
Their theme song is so perfect and lovely. Yeah. I know. It's so cute. You guys, congratulations.
00:57:24
We love your show. We can't wait for everyone else to hear it. It's so great. Dear Movies, I Love You launches on January 28th,
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