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June 19, 2025 /

This episode discusses the life of Lucy Nichols, a Civil War nurse born into slavery, her struggles for freedom, and her fight for recognition and a pension.

Lucy Nichols was born in 1838 in Halifax County, North Carolina, and was enslaved by the Higgs family. After being moved multiple times, she escaped with her baby daughter, Mona, during the Civil War, seeking refuge with Union soldiers.

As a nurse, Lucy cared for wounded soldiers and became known for her bravery and skill. She witnessed significant battles, including Vicksburg, where she tragically lost her daughter.

After the war, Lucy fought for recognition as a nurse and for her pension, which was denied for years. Her persistence led to a special act of Congress granting her a pension in 1898.

Lucy Nichols' story highlights the struggles of Black women during and after the Civil War and her legacy is honored with a statue and exhibitions today.

TLDR

Lucy Nichols, a Civil War nurse born into slavery, fought for freedom and recognition, ultimately securing her pension after years of struggle.

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And so I saw a TikTok on an incredible woman. So today's story is about a remarkable woman born into slavery in 1830s North Carolina.
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and because of this and the erasure of black accomplishment by a racist establishment,
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there are gaps in what we know about her life. But luckily in recent years, historians have worked very hard to change that,
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searching archives and poring over old documents to find information and basically piece her life story together.
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So because of that reporting, I am able to tell you today the amazing story of heroic Civil War nurse Lucy Nichols.
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So the sources for the story that Marin used are the research of Pamela Peters, Curtis Peters, and Victor McGinty, and the reporting of Dr. Eileen Yanoviak, who published a book about Lucy called The Tenacious Nurse Nichols.
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And the rest of the sources are in our show notes. Lucy's life begins in April of 1838 when she's born into slavery in Halifax County, North Carolina.
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She's owned by Jacob and Sally Higgs. and because that's the way it worked back then,
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she is forced to take their last name as her own. So technically her legal name is Lucy Higgs.
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We don't know the names of Lucy's parents or the details of what her day-to-day life was like.
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Much of what historians have cobbled together comes from the Higgs's legal documents
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and those legal documents purely speak of the people that they owned as inventory.
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So it is how many of them, the cost, the names, and they track her movements to the different households within the family, or they name her in legal disputes over which family member owns her.
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That's so crazy and awful. It's so horrible. But here is what we do know. In 1839, when Lucy is an infant, Jacob and Sally Higgs' 29-year-old son, Ruben, claims legal ownership of her.
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Lucy's seven-year-old brother, Aaron, and her four-year-old sister, Angeline. So before she's a year old, Ruben takes Lucy and her two siblings and a small group of other
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enslaved workers from the Higgs, North Carolina property to his new home in Tennessee.
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It's unclear if Lucy's parents go with this group, but under slavery, families are constantly and very commonly torn apart. So when Lucy's eight years old,
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she and her sister Angeline are forcibly moved again after Ruben's wife, Eliza, divorces him
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and moves to Mississippi. And Maren makes the note, she says, sort of an aside, but divorce
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would have been extremely atypical in the South in this era, which is the first thing I thought of
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where I was like, oh my God, this woman was like, goodbye. I mean, it wasn't done. But we don't know
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why the marriage ended, we do know that Ruben ended up marrying his first cousin not long after.
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So then when Eliza dies, Lucy and Angeline are moved again to another Higgs property back in
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Tennessee in a town called Bolivar, not far from the Tennessee-Mississippi border. And here,
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Lucy, Angeline, and their brother Aaron are reunited. By 1860, Lucy is in her early 20s
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and now married to a man who is also enslaved by the Higgs family. They have a baby girl that they name Mona.
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And we know Mona's age because the Higgs 1860 property inventory list. She appears there listed as infant.
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That same document reduces Lucy and Mona's lives to a dollar amount. Together, they are valued at $1,400.
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Wow. So it's presumed Lucy's husband is Mona's father, But of course, very dark side of slavery is that there's always the disturbing possibility that Lucy was sexually assaulted by her white owner and became pregnant because of that.
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What we do know is that Mona's birth marks a very pivotal moment in Lucy's life.
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This is what historian Eileen Yanoviak writes. She says, quote, So it kind of cool It like that driving force behind what
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the rest of the story becomes. So in 1861, the Civil War begins. And a year later in July in
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Kentucky, which is directly north of Tennessee, they're mostly under union control. And the Higgs
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family as enslavers probably are starting to feel the walls closing in. So they start talking about
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trafficking their enslaved laborers further south, where they can be sold for tens of thousands of
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dollars each. Lucy knows what this means. She will wind up deeper in Confederate territory and farther
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away from the possibility of freedom if she would ever want to try to flee to a Union state. And
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because of that, it's almost guaranteed she'll be separated from her loved ones,
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including her baby daughter. So Lucy and a few of the other people enslaved by the Higgs family
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plan their escape and bravely set out at night in the summer of 1862. So we can assume the group
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is very small. Lucy's thought to be the only adult woman in it, which means her sister Angeline did
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not go with them. But historians believe Lucy's husband is a part of the group. And we know for
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sure Lucy is carrying Mona with her on this. So how frightening to be an escaping slave with a
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baby. Totally. I mean, and Eileen Yanoviak writes this. She says, quote, Mona was only two or three
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years of age then, a bright eyed and married child whose sweet chatter or loud wails of fear
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could jeopardize their escape. But in the sweltering heat of a Tennessee summer, Lucy swaddled Mona in
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her gown and snuck away in the cover of night. So like many escaping slaves, the group almost
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certainly uses the stars to navigate north. It's unclear if they have a more specific destination
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in mind other than just going north, but they would be making their way through briars and bushes
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a lot of the time barefoot, which is the thing I didn't really think of until now. We're just like
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getting out with what you have. It's not like they had a bunch of stuff that they could take with
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them or totally it's worst case scenario of course in every way they're trying to keep hidden in
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wooded areas a lot of it would be unfamiliar definitely hostile territory and it'd be easier
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for them to get turned around or lost which could of course lead to them being recaptured and then
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brutally punished of course so this group makes it three miles when they arrive outside a union
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Army Camp. This camp houses hundreds of soldiers making up Indiana's 23rd Volunteer Regiment.
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The soldiers come from a town called New Albany, Indiana, more than 300 miles from their current
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post in Tennessee. Major will later describe Lucy and her group as, quote, dusty and foot sore from
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the long and hurried journey. Some sources say the group traveled 30 miles, but experts on her life
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say it was more likely three miles. Either way, in the middle of the night, just trying to get away.
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No shoes. My God. I mean, all the things. It's like all 100 miles. Yeah. So, of course, the Higgs's know immediately when the slaves escape.
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So they're already in pursuit of this group. So now Lucy and the group are in the horrible position
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of having to beg these white Union soldiers to help protect them from their enslavers.
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because even a union camp is a threat to freedom seekers like Lucy. Escaped slaves risk assault and sexual violence
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or being taken captive under the Fugitive Slave Act. And this is a federal law requiring that escaped enslaved people
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be returned to their quote owners and often resulted in a monetary reward. Yeah, it's the reality of it, right?
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Yeah, if you're being seen as less than human anyway, then no matter what side you're on, it's, you know,
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Right. It's that. But also the Union soldiers could just turn them away and basically say, we can't help you.
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I think people think that just because it's like the Union, they're not racist. And it's like, they're still racist. It's just not this. It's a different flavor.
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That's right. Fortunately, though, these Union soldiers do the right thing. When someone from the Higgs home does show up to the 23rd Regiment's camp, the men of the 23rd refuse to turn Lucy and her group over. There are theories that that's because of baby Mona. Even these hardened soldiers wouldn't want to throw a small child to the wolves that way.
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And there are laws known as Confiscation Acts where union forces are technically allowed to seize any property being used to support the Confederacy.
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And because enslaved people are seen as and treated like property, these freedom seekers can arguably be considered contraband of war.
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So the Higgs family are furious and there's a standoff, but the soldiers don't back down.
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And so the Higgs have no choice but to leave. I mean, it's a camp of soldiers all armed, you know.
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So Lucy then decides to stay at the camp, presumably because she doesn't have other options.
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They didn't have a final destination. And at least here she can feed and care for Mona, who immediately becomes a rare source of joy for the regiment soldiers.
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Eileen Yanoviak writes, quote, the soldiers would lovingly croon to the little girl to earn her giggles and glee.
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I know. But of course, nothing's free, so Lucy and her husband have to work very hard for basic necessities if they're going to stay at this camp.
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Lucy's immediately put to work as a laundress and a cook, while her husband would have likely been assigned manual labor jobs, or even could be enlisted in Black volunteer regiments.
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Aileen Yanowiak says, quote, a different type of bondage that required work in exchange for protection, provisions,
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and the promise of freedom, end quote. Within weeks, the Indiana 23rd is instructed to pack up
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and move on to the next battle. They set up camp in southern towns where the fighting requires them,
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so Lucy's responsibilities begin to evolve. Within a year of her arrival at the regiment,
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she becomes known for how good she is at soothing the sick and treating minor injuries,
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which are things she's learned as an enslaved domestic worker. So big part of her job and skills that she's basically already earned and learned.
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Lucy's caregiving skills eventually catch the attention of the regiment's surgeon,
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Dr. Magnus Brucker, and he chooses her to serve as his right hand. This is a critical and high stakes job that most doctors at the time
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would only consider another white man to be able to do. Yeah. Wow. This story keeps making me think of The Nick. Do you remember that series, The Nick?
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Looking at history, we just have no idea unless we study it. Right. The details of that kind of stuff of like, it's the accomplishment alone.
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She must have been incredible to have this white surgeon be like, no, it's got to be you.
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You're the one that's going to come and help me. But because war demands it out of sheer need, more and more women take on nursing roles, often with no real training.
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and Lucy already has experience and has done it. So these women include Harriet Tubman
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and the founder of the Red Cross, Clara Barton, who were forced to learn everything in real time in wartime.
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Dr. Brucker then offers Lucy the unofficial title of nurse and promises she will eventually be compensated for her service.
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So that promise really matters to Lucy because even though, of course, her immediate world is consumed by the war,
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she's trying to make plans and prepare for her and Mona's future as free women. While the world watches the stars at the FIFA World Cup this summer,
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00:27:14
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00:27:23
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She immediately begins tending to gruesome injuries. The soldiers are torn apart by grape shot, which are clusters of small cannonballs,
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as well as musket fire that can easily shred muscle and obliterate bone. Lucy's right in the middle of the action.
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Later a fellow soldier will describe her as quote quote fearlessly going to the front to seek out wounded soldiers and officers all equal in her mind to administer water to thirsty mouths pull away wounded soldiers and gently care for them
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She witnessed men gasping their last breaths, whispering comforts to them as their angel of
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mercy. Wow. End quote. How horrifying. Yeah. She's just immediately a full-time war medic. Yeah. At
00:29:35
the front yeah yeah lucy also cares for the regiment through relentless waves of illness
00:29:40
and she shepherds many sick men to their death 217 members of the 23rd regiment die during this war
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145 of them dying of diseases like dysentery malaria and typhoid fever holy shit that's
00:29:54
yeah big percentage yeah so lucy's constantly surrounded by death and chaos as well as dwindling
00:30:01
food rations, filthy living conditions, and she still has Mona to take care of and worry about.
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But she keeps marching forward with the 23rd Regiment, and she's there around 30 battles.
00:30:13
Oh my God. She did 30 times. Can you imagine having the food poisoning you have right now, but in a war, on the front with no...
00:30:22
Yep. But people are just like, can you push this bone back into my arm so I can go keep fighting?
00:30:27
It's like, really, can you give me two seconds? I just have to retch. Okay, so the Louisville Career Journal later reports, quote,
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She was sometimes at the rear, sometimes at the front, and often in the thickest of the battle, as much a soldier as her male companions, except that she did not carry arms.
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She never received a scratch. Isn't that wild? Yeah. So Lucy's a nurse during the Battle of Atlanta, where Union forces capture one of the South's most critical cities, as well as Sherman's March to the Sea, which is the brutal push to the Georgia coast that helps turn the tide of the war in the Union's favor.
00:31:08
So she's there for all the big ones. Yeah. Damn. That's amazing. She's also present at the Battle of Vicksburg in 1863, where following a relentless 47-day siege, the Union finally wins.
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It's seen as a turning point in the Civil War, but it comes with an enormous loss for Lucy,
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because this is when Mona, who is now around three or four years old, dies. We don't know why.
00:31:33
You didn't warn us. I know. I'm sorry. But this is a story of slavery and war. So it's as bad as it's bad.
00:31:41
The warning comes with the territory. But it's also like putting perspective on this life this woman led under the greatest oppression.
00:31:51
And in the worst circumstances, like going from slavery to the Civil War front lines.
00:31:58
My God. Yeah. So we don't know how or why Mona dies. It is another detail of Lucy's life that is lost to time and to indifference.
00:32:08
given how rampant and lethal disease is during the war is very possible. Mona just gets one of
00:32:15
these diseases, doesn't recover. It's also possible she was killed. Like nearly every other aspect of
00:32:22
her life, we don't have Lucy's perspective on her daughter's death, but a member of the 23rd
00:32:28
Regiment will report that, quote, in the siege of Vicksburg after the city had been captured,
00:32:33
Our regiment was one of the first to go in and receive surrender. Aunt Lucy followed in our wake.
00:32:39
A short time after, her child died. It almost broke the mother's heart. The men, too, had grown to be so fond of Mona.
00:32:47
And it was a severe pain that went through the entire 23rd. Oh my God, that's so touching.
00:32:54
It's so sad. Yeah. The soldiers collect flowers from Mona's grave, and she's buried in Vicksburg alongside members of the regiment
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who were killed in that battle. It's believed that this is when Lucy's husband enlists in the war.
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Yanoviak writes, quote, Perhaps he was compelled to fight in honor of his fallen daughter, unable to bear the burden of her death as a passive bystander of the war effort.
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But after his enlistment, Lucy will never see her husband again. Yanoviak adds, quote,
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While the war brought Lucy opportunity and the prospect of freedom, it also delivered intense personal tragedy.
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She left behind her siblings, lost her husband, and watched her beloved child die.
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In contrast to the perceptions that enslaved people were passive recipients of freedom bestowed upon them by Yankees,
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Lucy's story, like so many others, illustrates the intense self-sacrifice made by Black men and women to attain freedom.
00:33:50
They too went deep into the war zones, working to survive bloody battles in a brutal civil war that tore the nation apart to reconcile its brutal past.
00:34:02
That just makes me think of the movie Glory. If you haven't seen the movie Glory, you absolutely have to see that movie. It's so good.
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So about a year later in 1864, the 23rd Regiment is granted a 60-day furlough and heads home to New Albany, Indiana for the first time in years.
00:34:19
And Lucy goes with them. In Indiana she on free soil and she could leave the war behind But when that furlough ends she decides to return to the front perhaps because the regiment gives her something to focus on in her grief
00:34:35
or maybe out of loyalty to the soldiers who've become like family to her. So she has a chance. She makes it to freedom, and she goes back.
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Either way, the 23rd Regiment is active through the final days of the Civil War,
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which ends with Union victory in 1865. When the troops march through Washington, D.C. in the Union's Victory Parade, which is known as the Grand Review, it's clear how much the men of the 23rd Regiment respect Lucy because she marches right beside them as one of them.
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Oh, my God. Stop. I know. After the war, the men urge Lucy, who is still only in her 20s, to settle in New Albany.
00:35:13
and she does it. Here she becomes one of the few female members of the Grand Army of the Republic,
00:35:19
which is an organization for union veterans, and she stays very close with her fellow soldiers.
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While getting back on her feet, she earns a living as a domestic worker and a nurse in some of their
00:35:30
houses. Then when Lucy is around 32 years old, she marries a man named John Nichols. Like Lucy,
00:35:37
he is a Black veteran of the Civil War. Their wedding is held at the Second Baptist Church in
00:35:42
New Albany, which is a known stop on the Underground Railroad, and then they buy a house together.
00:35:48
Lucy finally seems to have some long overdue happiness and stability, but one thing is missing.
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She has not been paid for all of the work that she did during the war, and her pension claim
00:36:00
is denied. At this point, the U.S. pension system is massive, actively paying out over
00:36:06
950,000 veterans and their families, some going all the way back to the Revolutionary War.
00:36:13
The payments eat up around 40% of our federal budget. And it's a commendable progressive system
00:36:19
in many ways, but it's also very flawed. More than 18,000 women who serve the union as hospital
00:36:25
nurses, laundresses, and cooks are left out entirely, mostly because they don't have the
00:36:31
official records that are required to actually get the government to sign off on their pension.
00:36:35
Right. But remember, Lucy was hired by Dr. Brucker. So she is one of those thousands of women without formal paperwork outlining her service. But her bravery and determination isn't going anywhere. So in the 1890s, after her pension claim is denied, she starts a battle with the U.S. government.
00:36:57
Damn. She starts by filing a petition, which is one of the few documents we have actually written by Lucy herself and in her voice.
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So it says, quote, I served as a nurse for about three years. I cooked for the soldiers, dressed their wounds, gave them medicine and washed for them and did anything I was called to do.
00:37:17
I never received a nickel for my services as a nurse. Dr. Brucker told me I would get paid and I worked on the hope of getting paid.
00:37:26
So Lucy's initial appeals are all rejected. And for most women, this would be the end of the road and they just wouldn't get a pension.
00:37:34
But Lucy keeps on fighting. She even strategically enlists her fellow soldiers to back her up.
00:37:40
Dozens of men from the 23rd Regiment step up, including Dr. Brucker himself, testifying that he could not have done his job without Lucy.
00:37:49
Wow, that's so incredible. It takes seven years. 55 testimonials and an avalanche of paperwork.
00:37:57
Yes. She's just got to get everybody basically who was left from the regiment. Right.
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Rough that she could get a hold of. And all that paperwork. So much paperwork. So much paperwork.
00:38:07
So much paperwork. But she does it and she wins. In December of 1898, when Lucy is in her mid-50s, she is finally granted a pension through a special act of Congress.
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Now, it isn't much. She's going to be paid $12 a month, which is roughly around $480 in today's money.
00:38:25
Yeah, that's not nothing. It's not nothing. And it's a hard-won victory that helps pave the way for others.
00:38:31
A few years later, in 1901, Congress formally recognizes the role of nurse as an official military post, making all Civil War nurses eligible for pensions.
00:38:43
Oh, interesting. And that's because of Lucy fighting that hard and never giving up.
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Wow. So Lucy is a trailblazer in more ways than one. The work she and other women did during the war transforms nursing from a male-dominated job into one predominantly female. And by the year 1900, 91% of American nurses are women.
00:39:05
That's so cool. Mm-hmm. Wow. Lucy stays close friends with the men of the 23rd Regiment for the rest of her life.
00:39:12
Okay. She's at every reunion with them. She marches in every Memorial Day parade alongside them.
00:39:19
And she's even on the invite list as their children grow up and get married. I know.
00:39:25
In turn, the men are also there for her. Like when she gets the measles and years later, when she has a stroke.
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Lucy never fully recovers from the latter, and she passes away in January of 1915 at the age of 69.
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She buried next to her husband John at the Second Baptist Church where they been married decades earlier Lucy buried with full military honors Oh my God
00:39:50
In an elaborate ceremony with her obituary noting that, quote, Lucy was known to almost everyone in the city and everyone honored her for her loyalty, end quote.
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A century later, in 2019, a statue is put up at this church depicting Lucy holding her baby Mona.
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Oh my God, stop. Finally returning Lucy with the child she loves so much. And Lucy Nichols is now the subject of a permanent exhibition at the Carnegie Center for Art and History in New Albany, where Eileen Yanoviak serves as executive director.
00:40:28
And quoting a historian named A. Glenn Crothers, Eileen says, quote, Lucy's story is indeed an important example of determination, grit, service, and loyalty.
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But more importantly, her battle to build a life beyond enslavement, to serve, to work, to secure a pension and receive legitimization is a testament to the lingering effects of inequality well after the war was won and to Lucy's triumphant spirit.
00:40:58
And that is the story of boundary breaking Civil War nurse, Lucy Nichols. Wow. I mean, I mean, the timing couldn't be.
00:41:08
It's so relevant. It's so relevant. Imagine that. Imagine just wanting the chance to live and work and be independent.
00:41:20
And having to fight so hard for that. Fight literally on the front lines of one of the worst wars this country has ever seen.
00:41:28
And then they're like, no, I don't think we're going to pay you. Yeah. Just like, yes, you will.
00:41:33
Yes, you will. That's so inspiring. Isn't it great? Yeah, I'm so glad you did that.
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That's, yeah. It's a nice one. I'm glad I found it because that, of course, her story is kind of just lost to time.
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And, you know, it's the kind of story people really, really need to hear, I think.
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You won't believe it. The return we're about to make. Yeah. But thank you guys so much for listening,
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for being here. And for staying strong through all of this, all of the things going on these days.
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Episode Highlights

  • Dr. Death the Cowboy
    A charming neurosurgeon becomes a figure of trust, but leaves a trail of broken bodies.
    “He promised to heal them. Instead, he left a trail of broken bodies.”
    @ 00m 48s
    June 19, 2025
  • Harper Lee's Remarkable Note
    A listener shares a touching note from Harper Lee to their parents after their birth.
    “Dear Harper, you are beginning a life in a world quite different from the world I knew.”
    @ 08m 00s
    June 19, 2025
  • Lucy Nichols' Escape
    Lucy, an enslaved woman, bravely escapes with her baby during the Civil War.
    “Lucy swaddled Mona in her gown and snuck away in the cover of night.”
    @ 19m 23s
    June 19, 2025
  • Lucy Nichols: A Trailblazer
    Lucy Nichols transforms nursing during the Civil War, fighting for recognition and a pension.
    “Her battle to build a life beyond enslavement is a testament to the lingering effects of inequality.”
    @ 40m 58s
    June 19, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • This is a story of greed, betrayal, and a fight for justice.
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  • Life isn't like that, unfortunately.
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  • I will fucking just go into a deep depression if I hear that song.
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  • It's so crazy and awful.
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  • It's a camp of soldiers all armed, you know.
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  • Lucy’s story is indeed an important example of determination, grit, service, and loyalty.
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Key Moments

  • Summer vibes01:08
  • Food poisoning02:04
  • Harper Lee treasure06:05
  • Standoff22:59
  • Lucy Stays23:13
  • Grief and Loss31:26
  • Pension Fight36:57
  • Legacy Honored40:09

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