Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 96: Live at the Hard Rock in Orlando | My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

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Hello! Hello and welcome to Rewind with Karen and Georgia. This is the show where we recap our early episodes with case updates and hot take revisions and all the unlocked memories we can muster.

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Today we're rewinding to episode 96, which we named Live at the Hard Rock in Orlando because we are at our live show in Orlando, Florida.

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At the Hard Rock. That was great. Yeah, amazing. Absolutely memory hold this one.

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This episode came out on November 23rd, 2017. So let's listen to the intro of episode 96.

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What's up, Orlando? Oh my god, Vince is so fired, he left his sunglasses up here.

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Oh, I thought, I honestly thought you, like, secretly brought them on stage, like, here's my hilarious joke.

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This is for Orlando. No, Vince straight up left his sunglasses. You're fired? We have to have a smaller meeting after this show.

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Fired, divorced, everything. I have to just tell you guys right now, the second wave of screaming.

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Yeah. That hit a new high. I've never, I don't think we've heard that before. Yeah! Fucking rock and roll at the Hard Rock Cafe, everybody.

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Yeah! They're screaming outside, because there's a roller coaster, but it's really weird if you, like, don't think about that.

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There's just screaming outside. I'm gonna admit something to you. Go ahead. We got out of the car to go into the back, you know, artist entrance.

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I heard some distant screaming and I was like, guys, guys, guys, we'll see you in a second.

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And then there's like a roller coaster goes like that. I was just like, oh no, I've lost my mind.

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Already getting too big. I'm such an A. Already. You guys got us screaming, which is cool because Tampa got us an active serial killer.

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Yes, that was nice. You made up for it. What a gift. I mean. What an amazing on-brand gift for us.

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We were honored. Karen made a good point. Vince was like, if you guys, if you solve this and find the guy, you're going to be huge.

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Yes, imagine. And then Karen was like, well, we haven't seen Steven and the active serial killer in the same room at the same time.

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Let's just set him up for it and get the glory. I believe he's an active serial killer.

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Fucking mustashing around. He's not here so we can say anything we want about him.

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Yes, say anything you want. He's just with my cat, so don't be too harsh. They wanted him to be under here so bad.

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Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Guys, welcome. This is my favorite murder. We're a podcast.

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Thank you. That's Karen Kilgarib. That's Georgia Hardstar. Hi. Thank you. Thank you.

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We're, um, we... Remember what we did this afternoon? Oh, dude. So we had a drive here from Tampa,

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and we had like a couple hours between when your hotel room kicks you out and then lets you into the next one So we like what the fuck did we do A Waffle House Waffle House all the way to the place

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It was, it was my first time. Yeah. Yeah. It was unbelievably regular. Yeah, which is good because most of them are like, don't go there.

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Don't go there. You're going to regret it. I don't regret it. Here's the thing. Those biscuits, I had a biscuit without gravy on it.

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And it was, I was like, is this fried? Because it was really thin and it was filled with butters or Crisco or some butter flavored Crisco.

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But it was really good. Yeah. So then we ate. And then we went to, there's this town called Plant?

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Plant City. Plant City. Yeah. You love Plant City. So do we. We do too. It was nuts.

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So we went to all these, like my dream, just a town full of antique malls. You know?

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Yeah. So much vintage Tupperware. Georgia kept picking up bowls and going, should I get this?

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It's like, yes, it's perfect for flying. A nice big bowl from 1964. But it has the classic pattern.

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I'll never find it in Los Angeles. And then Karen had the great idea while we were wandering around.

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And she was like, let's get a weird, creepy present for whoever does the hometown murder tonight.

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So then, it didn't happen. So then. Yeah, let it go. Let it go. Don't get connected to material things in this life that you have.

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But Georgia is immediately like, let's get a haunted picture. You know what I mean?

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Like something haunted. Let's get something awful. And be like, there you go. Now you have to keep it.

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Sorry. So we were like searching for a thing. And what about this? And just kept holding up weird shit.

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I found salt and pepper shakers of two little children. On the back, because I couldn't figure out what it was.

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It was like they had big blue eyes, but then green heads. And they were holding their knees like this.

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And on the back, it just said melon children. So we found, Karen found, this gorgeous jewelry box.

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Okay, so if you are from the 70s, like myself. they had those jewelry boxes that like you open them up and then the ballerina

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flicks up on a spring and then it's like talk about fucking haunted it's like the scariest

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thing as a child where you're like this is absolutely a murder soundtrack it's like a

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ghost is absolutely making this happen yeah for sure put on your rings little girl and forever

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and then it wasn't like a movie where like if you're bad you get trapped forever as the

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as the fucking ballerina there is now and then she gets close in the thing every night

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keep going someone take dictation that's amazing but it was just like gorgeous version of it perfect

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condition ballerina everything was like gorgeous about it it was it was like it was way bigger than

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a normal one and you opened it and then things went out like that and then there was a bottom

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drawer everything was happening it was like from the 50s probably cream on the outside salmon

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pink on the inside. Cinnamon on the inside. Like velvet, untouched. It looked like some old lady bought it

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for someone and was like, fuck them and put it up in the closet and never gave it to anybody

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and then died. Right? Yeah, so it's just filled with hate. Which attracted me immediately.

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And I picked, and also it was way back, it was on the bottom shelf way back. This is my fucking favorite experience.

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One of those kind of stores where I'm like, but what's this. So I open it to Georgia

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and then she's like, we have to get it. We're looking at it and on the back, in Boston

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gold, it said Lady Buxton. It's from a company called Lady Buxton. Lady Buxton. Which we're naming our company.

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We're stealing that. We're changing the name of our company. There's no way that company's still in business.

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Or are they? Someone started crying in the front row just now. Sorry. No, I saw what happened.

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There was like, probably left over from like who played here last night? Let's guess.

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uh just jay giles band yeah jay giles band a piece of glitter one piece that fell from the sky

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oh then katie perry right her lap how big is it holy shit can i have that thank you i feel like if we had that oh that's not glitter baby that's a razor blade

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if we had that jewelry box she would get it 100 oh oh one for me ma'am please don't come toward the stage unless you're called up

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can you believe that shit you did it exactly right she's rushing the stage like a lunatic

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i can't believe you karen oh yes did you lick it no i thought about it but i can't imagine what

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It's made up. Yes. There. Now we just get beamed the fuck up into space to be with Heaven's Gate.

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We don't have to record this episode. It's going to go straight into Stephen's brain.

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Yes. This looks good. This is not to be a TV insider, but when I worked on Ellen, this, you do one giveaway

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where like, it's like, we're going to send this soldier and his wife on a cruise.

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and then they have confetti cannons that explode in the audience and out onto the stage and this

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for the next like 17 shows every once in a while this happens and i swear to god one time they got

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oprah to come on that show which was a very big get because they both shows still existed on

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regular tv and at the very end oprah was just like taking this huge christ-like bow of like

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You're welcome for my presence, everyone. And this piece of confetti just went like this and landed on her head Ellen was like no Or she was like yes

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So awesome. Anyways. Anyhow. Lady Buxton. Lady Buxton. Refocus. Standing in line.

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It was really cheap. We're standing there like, we got our thing for the person.

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We have the best ideas. And then this woman comes up behind us, this real sweet, like, you know, really normal person.

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Like, so not from L.A. like a really nice normal woman yep she's like oh is that a lady box like what did she say she said

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oh i see i have that one back there that's it's very similar it's from my daughter and i have

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two other daughters i'm trying to get where did you find it and i was like it was on the bottom

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shelf i was doing a full body block of like bottom shelf don't worry about where i fucking found a

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lady she was like i still have mine from when i was in second grade i'm not fucking kidding she

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Yeah. Still has her. And I'm trying to get a couple for mine. I found one over there.

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Did you see any others? Yeah. She was very. So Georgia looks at me and goes, let's give it to her.

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And I was like, what the fuck? She ignored me. She just ignored. Vince was like, yeah.

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Yeah. And I was like this. Karen wouldn't look at me. Anyway, could you guys finish up so we can get the lady boxed in?

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Georgia turns around and goes, you should have it. And the woman goes, oh, no, no, no.

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Like she's giving her the fucking holy grail. oh no and you just put it into her hands because you gave me a nod i did i did i did i don't want

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to seem like i'm fucking amazing but i mean it was my idea i broke i did break at the end

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and she goes oh no we just immediately started walking away she started crying wipes her eyes and we were all like we're the best people in the fucking world

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it was the best so no one gets surprised tonight except for that lady that lady gets surprised

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because we are good people. And then we were running scenarios of how she's a con woman

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and that thing is worth like $700 on eBay and she does that to everybody where she's like,

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they got the fucking Buxton. Let's see, I have daughters. That's it. I have daughters.

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And the woman who works there is like, Judy, we told you, you can't bother the other customers anymore.

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Judy's a pirate. Judy. Judy, you nut. Judy. I just want to mention, someone was good enough.

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Edward, you made us cookies tonight. Thank you, Edward. They were delicious. We got some cookies sent backstage.

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Yeah, you could have done it too. But this is my favorite thing. He wrote a really nice card

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and then he wrote, P.S. I almost got fired for writing Stay Sexy, Don't Get Murdered

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on our positivity board at work. Maybe they need to be more specific about what being positive means

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because it's not the same thing for everyone. No, we're all different special snowflakes in this world

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and everyone has a positivity angle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's positive. Do not get murdered?

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I'm positive. I did not want to get murdered. Yes. For sure. And then, like, now I'm obsessed with...

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Edward, where do you work? He works at the police station. Let him sit. Oh, what?

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Where is it? Diagon Alley at Universal. Oh, my God. That's awesome. You're a wizard, Harry.

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You are so lucky they didn't fucking put a bag over your head and pull you out and, like, dump you out over the county line.

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Oh, my God. They're gonna now. You're like... He tried to SSDGM Harry Potter. He can't do that.

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That's not for them. Everyone knows. Oh, I wrote down the word head wound right here.

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Oh, Jesus. Talk about a head wound. Talking about a... Talking about walking into our hotel lobby to fucking check in after our little drive.

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And the fucking kid has a straight up head wound in the lobby. He's fine. He's fine.

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Yeah, he was talking and walking and everything's okay. But bleeding. Fully bleeding down his face.

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We were just like walking past him and his mom screaming at the father. Yeah. I've never heard...

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I didn't know this was a real thing that people actually said to each other. she yelled to the dad who was just hanging out at the fucking front desk watching the mom freak out

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um don't just stand there do something she actually said those words out loud and the dad was like they're getting ice it was just like the most unhappy family

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perfect for vacation here in uh orlando at the they're fine we were following them to get into

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the elevator and karen goes um let's not get on the elevator with the rage family

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and I was so bummed because I really wanted to get on the elevator with the Rach family

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just hear what they have to say to each other I am such a uh like denial based Irish Catholic

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where I'm like you and your family could be strangling each other in front of me and I'd be

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like anyway so what are your Thanksgiving plans none of my business the wall you're interviewing

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the wall I'm asking the wall yeah when they were getting on the elevator we heard them say well

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this has been a disaster. That was the mother. Totally. It's been a disaster. Now let's go to Diagon Alley for Christ's sake.

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Well, they're all positive there. But everyone's positive. We'll get some positivity over there.

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Fucking lives. Finally. Oh, shit, guys. Also, when we got up, when I got upstairs,

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I immediately went back downstairs to buy a Diet Coke. And right as I pressed the button for the elevator,

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this lady comes out of the stairwell and she was kind of rad. She had a huge eagle tattoo on her bicep where I was like, who are you?

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And she looks at me waiting for the elevator and she goes, I wouldn't get in there. We just got stuck.

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I swear to God I like we have been here 15 fucking minutes and everything has happened Yeah Trouble follows us

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Yes. It does. All the way to Orlando. Yeah. Hey. Get it, girl. Thank you. Oh, that's nice.

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Thank you. So much. That's what we do. Oh, should I make my excuse about my outfit?

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I really did want to, I have a new black dress that I wanted to wear. I guess subconsciously I didn't want to wear it because I forgot my tights in my car at the airport.

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I don't know how I did it. I didn't want to wear that dress. I guess I didn't. That's not true. You love it.

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I offered you my tights last night. I was like, I didn't shave my legs, but you can have them.

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I'll take them off for you. You've done it for me. Taking it for the team. I was just like, nah, I'll just wear my pajamas.

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And I remembered I had diamond hoop earrings and I was like, they'll do all the work.

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They draw the eye away. Nails. All right. Listen, we work hard for you guys. Listen, look, it's so hard doing a live podcast.

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It's really traveling. That's not true. It's not true. We're lying to your face.

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This is so easy and lucky. Listen, I can't believe. I just want to know what he's thinking right now.

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This is my husband. He's the guy. He's our tour manager. He sets everything up. He gets shit done and taken care of, and we know it.

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And he does stuff so perfectly, we would be a fucking mess without him. And I just love that he left his sunglasses on.

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He made us this rug. He made us this rug. He works really hard. Yeah, he really does.

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He does. I think he got us at his dispensary, too, by the way. Anyway. Do you have those here?

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You don't get to stuff hot. You do? There's yeses and noes Someone knows something that you guys don't know

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They're not telling you They have one They have just the one dispensary Well you guys gotta get there

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And get some sunglasses Come out to California Those sunglasses are made of pot Don't tell the TSA

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I couldn't remember that for a second Also speaking of pot You guys have a horse here

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That got a DUI or something am I getting that wrong? I actually looked the story up

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so I could see the lady it's the best mug shot if you look it up it was in Lakeland

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and she rode her horse you know it we're going to tell you your news seven days later

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it's fun she's writing down people call the cops because she's obviously drunk on a horse

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well she's not steering the horse the horse isn't going to be like no, I'm not going to fucking walk off the road. The horse is just like, lady, it's your call.

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I'm going where you tell me to go. She's like, she was double over the limit. So it was a 0.161.

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What's that? That's nothing. I could do that in fucking two hours. If you care, if you care,

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you can do it. That's the wrong message. But you've got to see her headshot. She, I mean,

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mugshot. We've been in LA for too long. She is my favorite actress. It was Blythe Danner. Isn't that

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crazy? No. What does she look like? It's one of those things, and you guys are familiar with this,

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where the hair is young and the face is old. Oh, that is the saddest description. Hair is young,

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faces. That's the saddest four words I've ever heard together. Well, because she had kind of

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like I think an accidental ombre you know what I mean so like this part of her hair was one color

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and then down here was a different one like right here her life got hard like she was doing great

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six months ago when this part was here and then some shit went down yeah and and dying her hair

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was no longer a priority I've been there I hope to god that woman isn't sitting in this audience

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with a single tear rolling down her cheek right now. Well, if she is, I hope her hair looks great.

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She deserves it. She went to the, after that, she was like, look, I'm going to get it together.

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I put my horse at risk. I'm going to the salon. We're going to get these roots strip bleached

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and have everything look the same. The secret to not looking like that is just to always have brown hair

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because then no one knows how bad your fucking month is going. Yeah. You know, it's true.

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What were you going to say? Well, that seemed judgmental. Sorry, everybody. Bye.

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This is a true crime podcast. Yes, that's right. It's a... Tell you that ahead of time.

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True crime with a touch of comedy. Yeah, but they're not, you know what I mean? They're like, we take them apart.

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You can put them back together. We're not doing that. Some people don't like it.

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Yeah. So say you're one of those people tonight. Yeah. Keep it to yourself. We know. Don't worry. We know. Everyone's let us know online. They tell us.

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We meet lots of people who are like, she brought me. Yeah. I never heard you guys before. You're pretty funny.

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That's what happens. No, everyone's the best. Should we sit down? Yeah. Okay. Yes. The best part.

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Truly the best part. These are nice seats. Hard Rock Cafe. Yeah cushy, cushy. My sweat towels here.

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My um... I'm gonna do this like my mom at Thanksgiving. Yeah. My mom at Thanksgiving would get dressed in like a really nice outfit and then go downstairs to cook.

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So then she always had this on her shoulder. And she'd be like, could you girls make one appetizer please?

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Could you girls? The most disgusting rag. No. Then there's this. Wolf Van Halen used this rag very recently.

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That's the sun. It's a deep cut. Alright, let's put everything in order. The glitter goes here.

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That goes there. I left mine there. Okay, great. Here we go. That's yours. That's yours.

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That's from Edward. This is my Kleenex. That is actually a napkin. Alright, who?

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It's me. It's you. It's me. Okay, Karen goes first. That's right. Thank you. Okay.

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We're back. Georgia, what do you remember about the Hard Rock Cafe in Orlando, Florida?

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I don't think it was a cafe. It was like a fucking big old amphitheater, wasn't it?

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Arena. Arena. But what do you remember about that experience? I remember, yeah, I remember it.

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I remember the lights being low and like moody in the in the green room. They gave us a lot of food and stuff.

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And I just kept thinking they're going to kick us out when they find out who we are.

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Like they are going to realize they made a mistake and we're not supposed to be like

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there are a couple of venues like that. Like we did Las Vegas at a casino and I was like, they're going to kick us out.

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Yes. But it was incredible and it was a really lovely venue. And I just yeah, it was a trip.

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It's weird because some of the things that we talk about in this episode, I connected to a different venue and a different storyline.

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Right. So I'm just like, that's weird. I thought that happened at the place where the blank happened.

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And it's just weird. It makes me go, this is why people keep scrapbooks. As corny as it is, you want to be able to look back and just be like, oh, I get it.

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Totally. This is the whole thing we were doing. And I guess you could probably, if you searched back on Instagram far enough, right?

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Yeah. I guess that is a scrapbook really, right? Yeah. Kind of. The digital scrapbook.

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I do wish, yeah, I was like that or, you know, someone who loved me was like that, but nope.

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Or someone loved me. Yeah. Or my mom would fucking get her scrapbooking shit together.

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But no, I totally forgot about the fucking jewelry box. Like, oh, that is hilarious.

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And I think this is when I bought something for the hometown person that night and ended up keeping it for myself.

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I could tell you exactly what I still have it. It's a it was a beautiful like perfume bottle shaped like a ostrich.

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And it was like my color, the green. And it was an Avon perfume bottle from like probably the 60s or 70s.

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But it's like one of my favorite things that I own. So it's worth it. It's okay. Totally worth it. It really was for you because you thought to

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yourself, what's the best thing to give as a gift? And then picked the thing you like the best and

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then like, well, I'll give it to myself. That's completely understandable. That's shopping,

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I think, deep down. That's every year when I Christmas shop for sure. Where I'm like,

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look at me with this sweater. Oh, I probably need a new belt. I bet my sister would love this,

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so I'm going to keep it. Nora loves Sephora. That's what I'm always trying to act like.

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Right. That's it. I connected us being at that because I can remember the antique store.

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Yeah. But I connected it with when you came out of the bathroom and we thought we lost you.

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I thought that was the same. Right. No, that was the night before. I did look up the jewelry box

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and they are they're not like super expensive. You can find ones for like fifty dollars. But

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they also I saw ones that go up to hundreds of dollars. Yeah. So, you know, you could have made

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out real good. I could have been in that jewelry box business that I've always dreamed of being a

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part of. The funny thing is that I had one of those. I think, did I have it or was like my

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cousin had that where that was a very 70s set piece, that set piece of like the ballerina going

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around as you go through your cousin's jewelry box. Totally. I have the grandma one that like

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opens up to a bunch of different things. Yes. That's my favorite. Is that what we had or did

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we have a ballerina one girl i do not remember at all we talk about the ballerina one so it must be

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that but i think they i don't think that the jewelry company makes that kind i think i was

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just trying to put uh any kind of a silence of the lambs reference in any time i could that was

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is my hacky crutch that i love to rely on it you must you must oh horse dui the horse dui lady

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one of our original local crime bits that just destroyed yeah that's when we learned that we

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got to show the city that we're in what they're like and what they have done. Who they're represented

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by. Yeah, this mugshot, you didn't lie. This mugshot is really something. It is. It's a

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horse-related crime type of mugshot. Totally. Like, it fits the crime, right? Yes, it does.

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It's a look and it's an aesthetic. Oh, and I'm about to do one of my favorite stories ever.

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00:32:52

Alright, so my murder tonight and my story I'm about to tell you is about a little lady named Judy Buenoano, the Black Widow killer.

00:33:04

Love a good Black Widow. Buenoano, probably. Still. Still. Still, I said it the way I said it.

00:33:14

You can pick those up and throw them away. Let's make it look nice. I got most of my information.

00:33:20

You know when you go on YouTube to look up a serial killer you need to know information about?

00:33:25

And there's somebody that has posted a TV show as if it's their TV show. So I think it was a guy.

00:33:32

It was some kind of a play on words where it looked like his name was like, it was like Kicker in the Ass or something.

00:33:40

but it was broken up so it looked like a guy's name. It was great. Anyway, but he didn't make the show.

00:33:46

I'm pretty sure it's a show called Women on Death Row. And the little thing up in the corner said CI,

00:33:52

but I've never heard of that channel before. So I don't know what was happening,

00:33:55

but if you go on YouTube, that was where I got most of this information. Plus, there's a website called crimemuseum.org

00:34:01

that's really good, that had a bunch of information about her too. Okay, so Judy Buenyo Anyo

00:34:09

was born Judeus and Lewalti on April 4th, 1943 in Kwanah, Texas. That's the shortest sentence with

00:34:18

all the names I can't pronounce in it. So get those out of the way. Yeah. We started off strong.

00:34:23

Okay. So her mother died when she was two. She and her brother, Robert, get sent to live with

00:34:28

the grandma. A year later, the father remarries, brings them back. They now live in New Mexico.

00:34:33

and she then has a whole childhood of abuse by the new stepmother and I guess there were five stepbrothers that were all dicks.

00:34:44

So she has it bad. And then when she's 14, she snaps, throws hot grease on the stepbrothers

00:34:51

and attacks the father and stepmother. What the fuck? She fucking lost it. Remember the fact that you just cheered for Judy

00:35:01

because you're going to regret that later. Do you think she had a thing like this and she was just like, you dicks, and just threw a thing in it?

00:35:09

She was like, they were like, this bacon isn't crispy enough. And she's like, oh yeah? Let me put my towel down really quick.

00:35:18

Okay. So she is sentenced to 60 days in a detention center. And then she decides, well, I'm not going back home.

00:35:25

So she goes to a girls reform school. She graduates from there. and then she studies to become a nursing assistant.

00:35:34

In 1961, when she's 18, she gives birth to her son Michael out of wedlock. She never says who the father is.

00:35:44

And then the following year, she marries a guy named James Goodyear. He's an Air Force officer.

00:35:48

They have two more kids and then they all move to Orlando. Hey. Yeah. She in 1968 opened a place called the Conway Acres Child Care Center Uh You guys went there Was it fun

00:36:05

Did you ever... Did everything taste like almonds? Because there's a poisoning aspect to this story.

00:36:13

So her husband, James Goodyear, is sent to Vietnam. In 1979, he comes back from Vietnam,

00:36:20

and in September of the same year, he starts to get really sick. He's vomiting. He's really weak. He can't get out of bed. He ends up being hospitalized.

00:36:29

She goes and visits him in the hospital, sits by his bed every day. He ends up dying.

00:36:34

Yeah. So she gets his life insurance money as a widow will. Then later on that year, her house catches on fire and burns all the way down.

00:36:49

She gets a little insurance money for that too. Then she begins dating a man named Bobby Joe Morris and in 1977 he moves to Colorado

00:36:57

So she packs up all her kids and she moves to Colorado and moves in with him Within a year Bobby Joe is in the hospital dying of a mysterious illness

00:37:07

It includes vomiting and being very weak You know that mystery It's just a weird mystery

00:37:14

This was back when they didn't know what caused anything so when she would go visit him in the hospital she would bring him Hawaiian punch from home

00:37:25

in a container in like a Tupperware container he just loves Hawaiian punch Tupperware he loves

00:37:31

I bet it was corn maize yellow um yeah she's like to the nurses like he just has to have his

00:37:42

Hawaiian punch from out of this specific container poured by me only. Don't drink any. Yeah. Uh,

00:37:50

so in January of 1978, he dies of this illness and none of the doctors have no idea what it is.

00:37:57

When they do the autopsy, nothing shows up five days after he dies. She cashes three life insurance

00:38:04

checks from all the policies she'd taken out on him a couple of months before he died.

00:38:09

but everyone's like wow what a lucky coincidence congratulations judy so she ends up buying a house

00:38:20

in whisper bay no uh it's it's near pensacola and are you from pensacola because you didn't know what whisper bay was so i think you might be

00:38:34

fucking lying. Everyone from Whisper Bay is really quiet because Pensacola just won't stop screaming all the time.

00:38:43

So they're like, we're a little, we specifically moved you because we don't like loud things.

00:38:51

Of course you don't know who's from Whisper Bay. They're snapping in their seats.

00:38:58

Yes, Whisper Bay. We love it here. Okay. Now, Judy changes her name legally to Judy Bueno Año, which is Spanish for Goodyear, which you might remember was her dead first husband's last name.

00:39:18

Creepy. Pretty creepy. Okay. So in June of 1979, her son, Michael, drops out of high school.

00:39:26

He's like 17. He joins the army. and before he leaves to go to Fort Bennington, he stops by her house.

00:39:34

Oh, sorry, Fort Benning, Georgia. He stops by her house to visit her to say goodbye

00:39:38

and she gives him some sort of, some item that he eats or drinks, perhaps a delicious cup of Hawaiian punch.

00:39:46

I'm not sure. When he gets to Fort Benning, he becomes gravely ill, vomiting, weakness, whatnot.

00:39:54

he is found to have high levels of arsenic in his system. So his limbs begin to atrophy.

00:40:02

This is one of the side effects. And he becomes paralyzed in his legs. And then he can't use his hands.

00:40:11

So he has to wear braces on his legs. And he basically can't use his hands. So he's discharged from the army.

00:40:17

And he moves back in with his mother. You know, so his mother can take care of him in his illness.

00:40:23

I got a bad feeling about her. do you yeah who judy judy um so in may of 1980 the day he comes back from being discharged from the

00:40:35

army with his paralysis and his illness she plans a fishing trip okay same day think it through no

00:40:44

i'm not if she's not gonna i'm not gonna could you imagine you're like even if it was just like

00:40:50

you were college and you came home because you got the flu and you you like walk in the front

00:40:54

front door and your mom's like here we go car trip let's go you'd be like what the fuck yeah

00:40:58

she gets a canoe they get a a folding chair and strap him into the chair in the canoe no and

00:41:09

michael the younger brother james and judy all go on a canoe fishing trip in the east river that

00:41:17

sounds like a bummer even if you're at fucking top of your health game you're feeling great

00:41:22

Fuck no. You took tons of vitamins and you're like, I don't want to get in that fucking canoe.

00:41:26

Yeah. We went on, I just remembered, we went on a canoe trip in the Russian river when I was like

00:41:31

10 years old and it was our family and our next door neighbor, the hospitals who are like our

00:41:35

family. And my dad, who is six foot four, probably 280 pounds. And my cousin, Cheryl's husband at

00:41:43

the time, Mike, who was even bigger than my dad, they were like best friends and like, we're going

00:41:48

get in our own canoe and bring beer, you know, like our time. They flipped over in that canoe,

00:41:54

I not kidding like probably 30 times As we were going it was supposed to be like this lazy canoe trip down the river just every five minutes it was like and all their would go everywhere and they laugh and they stand up and drink a beer or whatever sounds kind of awesome it was

00:42:08

hilarious well we get finally get to the end of the trip to turn the canoes back in and they

00:42:13

turn the canoe to the side and it says like max weight 300 pounds those idiots just a little

00:42:22

family fun sidebar before we go back into the horror show that is this family okay

00:42:27

so at one point the canoe tips over and some fishermen find james and judy treading water

00:42:37

and like trying to hold on to the canoe and judy tells them my son michael has braces on his legs

00:42:43

and he went down and we can't find him right so they find michael's body a quarter of a mile down

00:42:50

the river because he it was he had braced on his arms and legs so he basically sunk right to the

00:42:56

bottom um so judy tells the cops she tells them one story was the fishing line got caught in trees

00:43:04

one story was they hit a log a log bumped them and knocked the canoe over a floating log

00:43:09

and then one story was there was a snake in the canoe it's like could have been all three at the same time i mean could you imagine a snake filled log

00:43:19

hits your fishing line yes all right the younger son james says he has no memory of the incident

00:43:31

because he was knocked out when the thing happened and unconscious so uh it turns out michael having

00:43:40

been in the army has a 20 000 life insurance policy purely from just being in the army there

00:43:46

wasn't just the army life insurance policy there were several other on her son so she collects

00:43:52

all of that money and she goes and opens a beauty salon called fingers and faces

00:43:57

are you fucking kidding me yeah i'm pretty make me pretty make my fingers and faces pretty please i have 10 fingers and

00:44:13

four faces can someone help me fingers and faces that's the kind of place if i saw it i would take

00:44:23

a picture of it and try to think of a good tweet about it yeah fingers and faces okay

00:44:29

like concentrate on one of those things yeah anyways yeah they're not a nail salon and a

00:44:36

facial place never the twain shall meet like can you imagine you're there trying to get a facial

00:44:41

with like cucumbers on your eyes and then not like nail polish smell what's center it's like relax

00:44:47

relax we're peeling off the top three layers of your facial skin okay in the meantime there's some

00:44:55

people out there that are like i like fingers and faces um oh do you have photos by the way we can

00:45:01

show photos no okay good i mean not yet oh okay great okay sorry she starts dating a local

00:45:08

businessman named john gentry um so in october of 1982 i mean they said she had a really magnetic

00:45:14

personality of course clearly she can get any man and poison any man she wants um was his he

00:45:20

was a local businessman was it called toes and toes and decolletage yeah toes and elbow toes and neck he his business was shaving men's neck beards off in the 70s and

00:45:35

And pedicure and promising your feet. And just being like, if you're going to wear those Bergenstocks, you've got to get rid of that heel shit.

00:45:43

Gross. So they were a match made in heaven. None of this is true. He probably did taxes.

00:45:49

Okay. So in October of 1982, Judy, as you do when you start dating someone, convinces John that they should take out life insurance policies on each other.

00:45:59

You know, that next step. That romantic next step. Yeah. You date, you fuck, you take out life insurance policies on each other.

00:46:07

Boom. I mean, come on. Yeah. That's how it is. Let's get real. Then she tries to start, she gives him special vitamins that she said are going to be very good for him.

00:46:18

They're citrus based, as most things are here in Florida. And, you know, there's nothing wrong with him, but she's like, it looks like you need some vitamins.

00:46:29

So, of course, he starts taking them, starts vomiting. feeling weak the whole thing so he stops taking them and this infuriates her good these are all

00:46:39

good signs that you're getting poisoned yeah you're just like so you're mad about the vitamins

00:46:45

or is it something else no it's the vitamins so on june 25th 1983 um she tells john that she's

00:46:55

pregnant and she insists that they get married which i think has something to do with the life

00:46:59

insurance policy. It's fun to insist that you get married to someone. Yeah. Insist. It's so romantic.

00:47:04

I know. That insistence. I demand that you love me forever. Um, okay. So the same night she's

00:47:13

hosting a party for an employee at Fingers and Faces. I think it was someone that specialized

00:47:18

in faces. Um, it was the face side of the business. And all the fingers people sat on one side of the

00:47:25

room in the face people saw them the other they fight they're really catty um but she tells john

00:47:32

that he should drive his own car to the party and park in a very specific parking spot okay

00:47:39

and he's like sounds good i don't question you in any way and thanks for those vitamins judy

00:47:46

oh god um so at the end of the night she says on the way home will you stop by the liquor store and

00:47:53

and get some champagne and bring it home for us. And he's like, sure, no problem.

00:47:56

And on his drive to the liquor store, his car explodes. But he survives. Uh-huh, uh-huh.

00:48:06

I don't have a picture of this car. I should. Bring it, explain it to us. Let us picture it.

00:48:15

I'll paint you a picture. That's what I meant. These early, one of those early 80s cars

00:48:21

that looks like it's a rectangle with two things cut out, right? Like how a child would draw a car.

00:48:26

Yeah, exactly. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. There's no curve in any way. This is before the Ford Taurus when everything was still real boxy.

00:48:35

And I think it's like kind of a creamy yellow color. Absolutely. What are they? Bucket seats?

00:48:41

Sunflower. It's sunflower color. Bucket seats. A sunflower. Bench seats. Thank you.

00:48:46

That's the confetti lady. She knows everything. Okay. So, and the entire back. So, it turned out there were five sticks of dynamite in the trunk.

00:48:56

Holy shit. That were connected with copper wire to the rear lights. So the first time he fucking put on those brakes,

00:49:02

the back of the car exploded five pieces of dynamite worth. Where do you even buy dynamite?

00:49:10

Acme, I think, right? Oh, everyone knows. Oh, I'm the idiot. She also got a couple anvils,

00:49:21

but that was for later when he actually got home. And then of course just a big black spot she was gonna put down on the ground and fall into

00:49:29

I could keep making Roadrunner references forever everybody Do it, do it Abandoned child, I was raised by TV

00:49:38

Okay Okay, so Of course the cops, since he survives, are like Hey, do you know anyone who wants to kill you?

00:49:49

And he's like, no, this is nuts Although we did have a vitamin incident at our house a couple months ago so they start looking into it

00:49:59

and they get the vitamins that he she had been giving him and it turns out there's

00:50:04

paraformaldehyde in the vitamins which is the chemical that you use at nail salons to clean

00:50:11

the instruments oh that blue shit fingers faces the blue like barber saw stuff i mean i don't know

00:50:20

whatever whatever pair of formaldehyde is i don't know i should have looked it up i'm sorry

00:50:24

you shouldn't have i said yeah come on listen look thank you so much um okay then they find out that when judy and john had their romantic life

00:50:39

insurance policy takeout session she had secretly behind his back raised his limit to 500 000

00:50:46

dollars what yeah so then he was like huh maybe things aren't as they seem so the cops then have

00:50:55

like probable cause i guess to get a warrant and search the house and they find there is copper

00:51:00

wire in the teenage son's room james that match the copper wiring that hook the tnt up to the

00:51:07

rearview line i'm sorry but that is just the i mean not car bombs are bad but that is fucking

00:51:13

hilarious we were just like gassing it gassing it oh oh maybe i'll break no i don't have to it's

00:51:18

like oh i just wish i could have seen it um in the cartoon way not in a real person way

00:51:25

okay so they also find out that judy had made plans to go on a world cruise and uh john was not

00:51:35

invited no ticket for john oh man yeah so they're like this doesn't seem great so in july of 1983 judy is arrested for attempted murder as is her teenage son but he is later

00:51:49

acquitted at trial um and because this is so fucking nuts it raises suspicions about the

00:51:57

1 000 other dead people in her life so they start exhuming bodies and it turns out her son michael

00:52:05

had also had arsenic in his system and James Goodyear had arsenic in his system and Bobby

00:52:12

Joe Morris had arsenic in his system. Heavy doses, it was described as. So then she's charged with their murders also.

00:52:21

So the first trial was for her son, Michael. And in court, the prosecutors actually show how based on the things that got dumped out

00:52:32

of the canoe where basically all the stuff in the canoe was dumped out where James and Judy were

00:52:39

treading water and holding onto the canoe but where Michael's body was there was nothing so

00:52:44

it couldn't have tipped where he was found so basically they dumped him out of the canoe and

00:52:49

then rode away and then staged the accident wow you can tell all that yeah that's by floating bags

00:52:56

filled with like fucking Cheetos and stuff because they kept all the stuff around yeah yeah where

00:53:02

Yes. So she's convicted of the murder of her son Michael on March 31st, 1984. And then in October,

00:53:11

she goes to trial for the attempted murder of her boyfriend, John Gentry. She's convicted of

00:53:16

that murder. Her third trial begins a year later. And for this, she's facing the death penalty for

00:53:21

the 1971 murder of her first husband, James Goodyear, by arsenic poisoning. On November 26th,

00:53:27

1985 she's found guilty of that murder and she's sentenced to die in the electric chair

00:53:32

yeah so of course she denies ever having anything to do with any of these deaths it's just a series

00:53:41

of terrible coincidences fingers faces fingers faces crossed yes cross your fingers across your

00:53:50

face that everything turns out good so she never says anything when she on death row But 12 years into her sentence she decides to grant an interview to a local newswoman named Sue Straw

00:54:05

You know, Sue, she's good. Because Sue was a customer at Judy's Nail Salon. Oh my God.

00:54:13

Fingers and faces. Sue! And Sue says in this show that I'm watching, she was like, even then,

00:54:20

I could not see her as a murderer. Wow. Because she said she was just so soft. And then I was like, God damn it, Sue.

00:54:28

She's a sociopath. That's the whole game. They're going to act like the thing that you wouldn't suspect.

00:54:34

You know who kill people? Soft people. Yeah. They kill people too. That's right.

00:54:38

Yeah. It's better to act soft than everyone's like, her, she's such a lady with her beautiful

00:54:44

fingers and her gorgeous face. But then they have this clip of that interview. and when sue brings up the charge that judy had dumped her own paralyzed son out of a fucking canoe

00:54:57

and drowned him she goes from talking like this of this has been very hard for me and she's kind

00:55:03

of like one of these ladies and then sue's like yeah but how about that canoe thing and she's like

00:55:08

and who said that what witness said that no witness said that the prosecution said and she

00:55:13

like turns into the fucking wicked witch of the east so quickly it's scary it's like one of those

00:55:19

teachers were like they're nice to the class and then you do some weird thing and they're like

00:55:23

and you're just like holy shit oh it's you can watch it it's real good and and then the reaction shot of sue straw she's like this

00:55:36

but my face and my fingers uh okay so then on march 30th 1988 judy buenoano is put to death in the electric chair she's a

00:55:49

second woman in Florida state history to have been put to death in the electric chain.

00:55:56

Her last meal, oh dear, this is going to make, for me, not to be, not to minimize the insane

00:56:04

human loss in this story, but for me, this is one of the most upsetting parts of the story.

00:56:09

Her last meal was a salad of broccoli, tomato, and asparagus. Go fuck yourself. Fuck you, Judy.

00:56:18

That's not a fucking salad to begin with. Yeah. That's an array of fucking gross things that nobody wants to eat.

00:56:25

Asparagus? Like, what? You're just going to chew on a bunch of asparagus for an hour?

00:56:31

Oh, and she had hot tea. Fuck off. God. Just my natural enemy, this woman. Yeah.

00:56:41

and she also told a reporter she was looking forward to seeing the face of jesus

00:56:47

uh-oh judy bad news it don't work like that baby she was actually seeing the fingers of the devil

00:56:55

in reality not the face of jesus jesus was like i'm not gonna be there for you she told um and i don't know if it was suistraw or

00:57:08

another reporter but she did tell a reporter before it happened obviously before that happened

00:57:14

but um but like a while before when she was asked she said her final words are going to be via con

00:57:20

dios um but on the actual day when she got walked to the chair uh and they asked her if she had any

00:57:28

final words she said no sir now here's a poem written by julie bueno on you ready everyone

00:57:37

Everyone close your eyes. Everyone close your eyes. I just want to soak this in.

00:57:42

Masks by Judy Buonio Año. Are you closing your eyes? Close your eyes. Don't be fooled by me.

00:57:50

Don't be fooled by the face I wear. For I wear a thousand masks. Masks I'm afraid to take off and none of them are me.

00:57:58

Pretending is an art that's second nature to me. But don't be fooled. For God's sake, don't be fooled.

00:58:05

Wow. Yeah. That's Judy Bueno Año, everybody. Oh, shit. Shit. That's okay. Do it. Shit. Do it.

00:58:17

Not there. There. Is that her? Oh my god, she's like, bitch, please. Look at her.

00:58:25

Look at her. She's like, seriously, go fuck yourself if you think I'm guilty. She's like hot tea and vegetables, motherfucker.

00:58:35

I love tomatoes so much. Wait, I think there might be one more. There's also really good footage of her glaring at it.

00:58:44

When witnesses would come up and testify against her, she would be glaring at them.

00:58:49

She's got, she has very small eyebrows and in kind of beady eyes. Oh. That's what she looked like when Sue Straw interviewed her.

00:59:00

interviewed her much later on. I see her snapping. Bye, Judy. Bye, Judy. Good one.

00:59:11

I love this. I know. Thank you. These are fun. We're firing Steven and hiring these little clickers.

00:59:22

We're not really going to do that. That was great. Thank you. Thank you for that.

00:59:28

Thank you for that. it's all judy judy judy judy judy uh all right and we're back karen what is it about this story that makes it one of your favorites do you think

00:59:44

it's interesting because it's so extreme but like when women do stuff like this oftentimes either

00:59:52

it it an organic issue in the brain or they have been wronged horribly yeah which is a little bit like your story that coming up Right So it is that kind of thing where sometimes there that vigilante of like

01:00:06

I've had enough and I'm not taking it. I'm going to act like a man. Yeah. And so that part is very compelling to me.

01:00:13

But then also it's just she killed seemingly every man in her life at like any time she could, which is just outrageous.

01:00:21

And she kept getting away with it. Yeah. And she's just fascinating. So she has a grandson named Alex Hawkins, and he right now is working on a documentary about his grandmother's case. And he's asking people to keep an open mind about her life and her crimes, which I think is really interesting.

01:00:39

He's basically saying, yes, she did these horrible things, but then there was this other side of her and she was philanthropic and she was a nice woman.

01:00:47

And like, there's like, that's part of the story as well, that she was like, maybe like a Jekyll and Hyde, which I think is really interesting.

01:00:54

And then to me to lay under, and she was a woman of the early 80s where like, you couldn't be thin enough.

01:01:01

You couldn't be pretty enough. You couldn't be blonde enough. You couldn't get a credit card in your own fucking name.

01:01:05

You had to have your husband or father sign up for you. She owned her own beauty salon, but I'm sure that the bank didn't care when she wanted to get a loan or wanted to develop her business.

01:01:16

It's all those things where she was probably partially ahead of her time, definitely abused as a child.

01:01:22

There's all those terrible, perfect storm things. I don't know. She's fascinating.

01:01:27

Well, it's so funny that you picked that story and then I picked this one, this next one, which I get a lot of comments on still.

01:01:33

It comes up a lot. Really? Yeah. I mean, it's a fucking heavy hitter. So maybe that's why.

01:01:39

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01:05:04

This is ladies night. Oh. Florida. Y'all ready for your girl, Eileen Wuornos? Oh, shit!

01:05:21

I feel like it's very important to say right now for the employees of the Hard Rock Cafe

01:05:31

and any partners or loved ones that are here that have never listened, we are not cheering for a serial killer.

01:05:38

That's not what's happening. This screaming, except for Whisper County, This is not for murder.

01:05:48

No, it's about knowing about her. Yeah. It about staying up at night and scaring the living shit out of yourself reading about what you did and finally you not alone while you going to be hearing about it Yeah this is one of those oh this was from January 2nd 1992 when I stayed up

01:06:08

all fucking night after watching Dateline because of this murder. I saw her picture and I stopped

01:06:14

plucking my eyebrows. There's just a lot of emotional connection. Yeah okay all right this

01:06:22

is a rough run because on one hand you have as a female you have so much empathy for her until she

01:06:29

starts really murdering people and um and then it's gone so it's a tricky it's a tricky situation

01:06:37

as life is it is so between november 1989 and november 1990 eileen warnos killed seven men

01:06:44

along the highways of central florida let's but let's let's start in rochester michigan though

01:06:52

Okay. So she's born, Eileen Wuornos is born in Rochester, Michigan, February 1956.

01:06:57

Her mom, Diane, was 14 years old when she gets married to the dad. They have a son named Keith when she's 15, Eileen when she's 16.

01:07:06

Can you fucking imagine? Think of yourself when you are 14 years old having a fucking baby.

01:07:14

I could barely handle Doritos. I couldn't manage them alone. I had to have them taken out of my hand.

01:07:22

I still have to say, take these away from me to Vince when I'm eating something.

01:07:26

And at 14, ugh. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So that's where we're starting. It's hard.

01:07:33

Okay. We're starting there. Let's fucking do it. Oh, do you want to see a photo of her when she's a little girl?

01:07:40

I know. Isn't she pretty? It's so fucking dark. Yeah. um thank you lighting person i know someone's on it like paying attention well we are at the

01:07:56

hard rock fucking cafe i mean they're like yeah we do this every night yeah this isn't the last

01:08:02

resort bar we'll get to that later oh shit no offense because i want to go party at the last

01:08:09

resort bar so bad okay okay eileen's father let's hear about him uh two months before eileen is born

01:08:16

he's incarcerated. He's diagnosed as schizophrenic, later convicted of raping and kidnapping a seven

01:08:22

year old girl. Don't worry, he hangs himself in prison when she's 12 years old. She's never,

01:08:28

she never meets him. Oh my God. I know. It's weird. Again, they're not clapping about,

01:08:33

you know. January 1960, when Eileen's almost four years old, the mom, Diane, abandons them, the kids, leaves them with their grandparents. They legally adopt her. And I think

01:08:46

it's one of those situations where she didn't know that until she was older. Eileen, so a lot of this

01:08:52

stuff is everyone in her past is dead. All the men that she killed can't say exactly what happened,

01:08:59

so it's all based on her own story. So we don't know completely what's true, but there is a lot of

01:09:05

cooperation based on the kids she grew up with. So she says that her alcoholic grandfather sexually

01:09:11

assaulted her, beat her when she was a child. Um, and by age 11, she starts engaging in sexual

01:09:18

activities in exchange for cigarettes and drugs and food. She also engages in sexual activities

01:09:25

with her brother. Um, yeah. Uh, and then, so they would hang out, all the burnouts would hang out.

01:09:33

And I'm sure you had a place like this in Sacramento. Cause I fucking had a place like

01:09:36

this in Irvine, California. So, uh, the pits, and it was like in the forest, the fucking, like, just the

01:09:44

gross area where the, like the burnouts would hang out. You know what I mean? Yes. Did you have one of

01:09:48

those? Can I tell you? Well, it's, uh, Petaluma. Uh, and we, we called it the rock and it was this,

01:09:54

there was a hill behind like a convalescent hospital. Great. You'd pull into the parking lot

01:09:59

and then you'd walk up this hill for like a half a mile. And then there was just a rock that we'd

01:10:03

I'll go sit on and drink like fucking Keystone Light or whatever. Well, it turned out, and I never put it together,

01:10:10

The Rock was in, I could see my house from The Rock. I could see, like, my parents watching TV from there,

01:10:16

but it was like, I would say, half a mile away. Finally, one time, my sister goes,

01:10:24

yeah, we can hear you guys, every word you guys say out there, because there's nothing between The Rock and my parents' house.

01:10:30

Oh, my God. Should we be out there just like, hugging voices, Carrie? And they're just like, they heard, they knew exactly what we were doing,

01:10:38

and they knew exactly what we were talking about the entire time. That's so smart.

01:10:42

It's kind of genius. Well, I mean, not on our part. No. It's so stupid. You get home and your mom's like, I know you were eating Doritos.

01:10:51

Yeah. And you had to have them taken away from you, Karen? That's actually when I got caught smoking cloves.

01:10:57

she yeah because because i was so goth because you smelled like a fucking spice cabinet yeah

01:11:04

she's like hey hey christmas ham what's up she but she came in she did the classic you know psychiatric nurse move on me

01:11:15

she held up the clothes that she found in my pocket when she was doing the laundry

01:11:19

and she goes you can smoke these if you want but they put glass in them and they cut your lungs

01:11:25

which is a fucking straight up lie but i never smoked a clove again after that it's not fun when

01:11:31

your mom's like go ahead i'm doing shit what you fucking do yeah like oh well i was lying she cared

01:11:36

she cared she wanted you to quit um okay so she'd hang out with them um she said that she you know

01:11:44

there was a lot of um sexual activity going on and she was raped um and later people from the

01:11:50

in this documentary I was watching said that she was treated very badly. Yeah. Oh, here's a photo of her at like 14 years old, which is like,

01:12:00

Oh, she kind of looks like me when I was that age, like the skinny kind of awkward nerd.

01:12:04

Oh. I know. Okay. Did she have her own boat? What? Life really sucked, but she did have her own boat.

01:12:17

Lucky. 1970, at age 14, she gets pregnant, possibly by a friend of the family, an older man.

01:12:25

She gives birth to a boy in a home for unwed mothers And the child's place for adoption

01:12:31

A few months later she drops out of school Her grandmother dies Her grandfather kicks her out of the house

01:12:37

So she's supporting herself as a sex worker Lives in the woods for a while Then hits the fucking road at 16

01:12:44

Hitchhikes around the country for five years Where's that baby? Adopted Oh good And I don't, yeah

01:12:50

She ends up eventually in 1976 in Daytona Beach, Florida Here she is Okay, she meets a 69-year-old yacht club president

01:13:03

Uh-oh Named Louis Grants Fell She marries him I think she's 22 at this time She's 22, he's 69

01:13:12

That's fine No, they're just grossed out by this what is it something december romance oh may december yeah yeah they don't like love it turns

01:13:24

out apparently not um so but she's still getting in confrontation she's kind of a brawler she's

01:13:33

she's had it totally shit all her life and all she knows is hitchhiking and fucking staying alive

01:13:40

yeah uh so they get they're fighting all the time she kind of loses it all the time she

01:13:45

has these like bursts of anger and she eventually hits him with his own cane oh and he gets a restraining order against her their marriage is annulled after only nine weeks

01:13:57

i'm just picturing ann and nicole smith's wedding picture but slightly different yes that's exactly

01:14:03

what it's like right picture ann and nicole smith a little methier okay um he's a little bit younger

01:14:08

kind of like snazzy you know he's got he's got his yachting cap on he's kind of rich okay so it's

01:14:15

Thurston Howell III. Yes. Yes. And Ann. And Ann Meth Anna Nicole Smith. Horrifying.

01:14:21

It's not nice. It's not funny at all. Okay, so then her brother, Keith, dies of throat cancer.

01:14:31

Devastating to her. They're actually really close. He was kind of, yeah, it's weird.

01:14:35

It's a weird relationship, obviously. Oh. Probably. Same brother? Yeah. Yeah. Then her grandfather dies from apparent suicide.

01:14:43

So she's on her fucking own. Yeah after her divorce she has tons of run-ins with the law

01:14:49

She's arrested for drunk driving, Florida prison for armed robbery. She robs a liquor store in a bikini

01:15:01

The inspiration for the film spring breakers. There you go She she does it in a bikini. She gets the fuck out drives away her car breaks down down the road. She gets caught she

01:15:12

I know that she ends up being a very bad person, but she also has the worst fucking luck of all time.

01:15:19

It sounds like she's not mentally stable. Right. Clearly. Bikini paroled in 1983 returns to sex work around 1986.

01:15:33

She meets what would become really the love of her life. 24 year old Tyra Moore.

01:15:39

They meet at a Daytona Beach gay bar. in, um, she's a hotel maid. She, in the movie monster, she's played by Christina Ricci. She

01:15:47

does not look like Christina Ricci. That was a stretch. Even when they cut all of Christina

01:15:53

Ricci's hair off, she does not look like Christina Ricci. But she's like a cute young thing. You

01:15:59

know what I mean? Youth gives everyone good looks. Um, they meet and Tyra's a lesbian and weirdly,

01:16:06

uh, Eileen's not really a lesbian. She just finally has someone who loves her for who she is.

01:16:11

Yes, she wants to be loved, for Christ's sake. Yeah, she has someone who wants to stick by her.

01:16:15

She has someone she can take care of. It almost seems like that's what she always needed.

01:16:18

Because she had had relationships with men in the past that were all disastrous, etc., etc.

01:16:23

They go home that night together and they move in together. And Eileen is really controlling over her, so she makes her quit her job.

01:16:31

And she said she's going to earn money with sex work to take care of her. And Tyra didn't approve of it, but you know what I mean.

01:16:38

Okay. Okay. So there's a book called Dear Dawn, Wuornos in her own words. So this chick Dawn Botkins was her best friend from when she was a teenager. And when Eileen ends up in prison, she just sends her like four letters a day of like, it's crazy stuff, but they published a book about it.

01:16:59

But so she says to Dawn that when she was in a gay relationship, she starts getting triggered by all these awful things that are happening to them.

01:17:08

Because it's Florida in the mid-80s, lesbians, you know. Not allowed. Not allowed.

01:17:15

So they say, like, one of the neighbors kills their pets because they're lesbians living together.

01:17:23

And she said it fueled the fire within. They couldn't find a place to live. No one would let them live there together.

01:17:28

and if they did, they'd raise their rent really high because they were lesbians.

01:17:33

So Eileen feels like she has to hustle. She carries a gun with her, and she's just really unstable.

01:17:42

She starts hitchhiking, and she starts stealing from people. Okay, so this is when our first murder takes place.

01:17:49

November 30th, 1989, in Clearwater. Richard Mallory he a 51 electronics repairman He picks Eileen up outside of Tampa She just hitchhiking Then she propositions him He agrees They pull off the road and they drink and talk until dawn

01:18:08

which is so weird. And again, this is all based on her telling what happened. Obviously, we don't know.

01:18:15

Eventually, she shoots him four times in the chest and the back. She takes his money, hides him in the woods under a carpet,

01:18:22

and takes his car back to Tyra. She tells Tyra that she killed this dude and took his car.

01:18:27

Tyra's like, I didn't believe her. So she says. I mean, no. Tells her she doesn't believe her.

01:18:35

Then two weeks later, Richard's body is found in a wooded area in, and I wrote this phonetically, Valusha County.

01:18:46

Thanks. Now, isn't Valusha in the Middle East somewhere? After a six-month break after killing Richard Mallory, on June 1st, 1990, the body of David Spears, a 43-year-old construction worker in Winter Garden, is found...

01:19:08

There's a lot of cities here. Get ready to cheer for your city. Or any city you've ever heard of.

01:19:18

He's found nude along Florida State Road 19 in Citrus County. He's been shot six times.

01:19:26

Then June 6, 1990, Charles Carscadden. He's 40. Part-time rodeo workers' bodies found in Pascal County.

01:19:36

He's been shot nine times with a .22. 1990, Peter Symes leaves Jupiter, Florida for Arkansas.

01:19:46

He is 65. Retired merchant seaman who devoted much of his time to Christian outreach ministry.

01:19:53

on July 4th, 1990, his car is found in Orange Springs, Florida. And then so Tyra and Eileen are seen abandoning his car.

01:20:04

And after they accidentally get in a car accident. Oh, again? She has so much car trouble.

01:20:12

Making a car accident. Like, people are like, hey, can we help you? And they're like, nope, and just run into the fucking wilderness

01:20:18

because they're like, this car below. She pries the license plate off with her bare fucking hands.

01:20:24

And they book it from this car. And the family's just standing there. Ma'am, ma'am, are you okay?

01:20:32

Yeah. Fuck. Yeah. And so they're like, well, here's what she looked like. And at this point, they're like, what?

01:20:39

We don't know why all these men are turning up dead with the same gun. They kind of know there's a serial killer at this point going on.

01:20:44

So they find out the car has come from this guy who went missing. So they have their photos and the drawings in the paper at this point.

01:20:55

And they get Eileen's fingerprints off the car, which were on file because she'd gotten in so much trouble before.

01:21:02

Remember the bikini thing incident? So they're looking for her at this point. So then she kills Troy Burris.

01:21:09

He's a 50-year-old sausage salesman from Ocala. Ocala. What'd they say? Ocala. You were able to get Ocala out of that?

01:21:23

Because I knew it was one of two things. Okay. And I knew that I was probably going to get it wrong.

01:21:29

They should put accents over these vowels that are so important. I mean. It would be nice.

01:21:35

And then on July, so he, on July 31st, 1990, he's reported missing. And then on August 4th, 1990, his body is found in a wooded area along State Road 19 in Marion County.

01:21:46

He's been shot twice. Charles Dick Humphrey, 56, September 11th, 1990, retired U.S. Air Force major,

01:21:55

former state child abuse investigator, and former chief of police. On September 12th, 1990, his body is found in Marion County.

01:22:05

He's fully clothed, had been shot six times in the head and torso, and his car is later found in Suwannee County.

01:22:15

No. Seems like you did it right. Or not enough people care about that. They're like, just say what you want.

01:22:23

We don't like that place that much. Walter Antonio, age 62. He's a trucker, security guard, police reservist.

01:22:30

November 19th, 1990. His nearly nude body is found near a remote logging road in Dixie County.

01:22:37

He'd been shot four times. Five days later, his car is found as well. So then, finally, they're like looking for her.

01:22:44

They track her down to a biker bar in Port Orange called The Last Resort. Yelped it.

01:22:53

Still there. For real? Oh, hell yeah. And there's a picture on the wall that said like,

01:22:58

Eileen Warnel's had her last beer here. Like, they're into it. After party. You guys in?

01:23:09

That's kind of nice there's a bar somewhere that's like us. A whole bar full of drunks that's just like, they were like, check this shit out.

01:23:18

Are you freaking out? I'm freaking out. Let's all freak out. It's so good. Yeah.

01:23:24

Okay. So they grab her. They find Tyra, who at this point was like, I'm getting the fuck out of here, and went

01:23:30

back home. She, they find her and they're like, listen, we don't think you did anything, so you need

01:23:38

get a confession and we won't prosecute you so she's like all right calls are they like have all

01:23:43

these calls from the fucking motel finally eileen's like i'll confess so you don't get in trouble for

01:23:49

it so she did do help right it was like eating and abetting she i think that she she says she only knew about the one that the first one and she didn believe Eileen She didn believe the other 18 She says Eileen did them on her own never told her about them

01:24:06

Oh, okay. She was just getting cars and money, that's all she knew about. She thought she was stealing them.

01:24:10

But wasn't she there when they ran into the woods after they got into the car accident?

01:24:13

Yeah, but she said this car is stolen. We gotta get the fuck out of here. Oh, okay, okay.

01:24:16

You know what I mean? Okay. I just, I don't buy it. Okay. Yeah, okay. uh so Eileen ends up confessing to all the murders in detail but she along with the help of

01:24:27

her defense claims they were all in self-defense that all the men had attacked her and tried to

01:24:32

rape her and kill her um except she shot them six to nine times yeah and a lot of them were clothed

01:24:40

there was no I don't know yeah okay yeah all right so then this the fucking trial blows up

01:24:48

Do you remember it? Yes. It got huge, right? And people are trying to make money left and right off for books and movies.

01:24:55

Even some of the cops are trying to get movie deals out of it. And then this woman named Arlene Prail, she's like, I just saw her on TV and I knew she was innocent.

01:25:08

I don't know if she's Southern. And I needed to be friends with her. Yeah, it's the best voice.

01:25:11

Yeah. I just knew in my heart that Jesus, you know, whatever. And she's like, and I needed to know her.

01:25:17

And I think they had money, so she was going to help her with, but she's like, and I wanted to talk to her,

01:25:21

but the only way they could get into prison to talk to her was if you were related to her.

01:25:26

So she and her husband adopt her. What the fuck? Can I tell you how excited I was when I heard that today in the hotel?

01:25:39

Yes. I was just like, they're going to love that part. Adopts her. And this woman, not surprisingly, turns out to be a fucking crazy person

01:25:47

and ends up making like $50,000 off of like, wants to do like an art show to like put up all of Eileen's drawings and stuff

01:25:54

is selling all this shit to the media. And Eileen later is like, fuck that bitch.

01:25:58

Kicks her out of her fucking life. It's almost like a bad version of the blind side.

01:26:03

Oh, yeah. It's like if the blind side was a fucked up, super dark, like, it sucks.

01:26:12

Bless her heart. Bless her heart though. Okay, so Eileen is, and you see these videos of her, and there's just these, she's clearly a million different people.

01:26:26

She's so crazy sometimes, and so sympathetic and sad sometimes. She takes the psychopathy checklist test thing, which means, which if you get 30 points, you're legally a psychopath, or whatever.

01:26:40

And she gets 32. Yes. She passed. She fucking nailed that shit. She passed the test.

01:26:45

Eileen, it's the first time that you've succeeded in your life. They didn't like that.

01:26:52

They really didn't. Whose fucking side are you on? They turned on you, man. I know.

01:27:00

You're right, you're right. She is diagnosed with borderline and antisocial personality disorder.

01:27:08

And her love of her life, Tyra, ends up testifying against her. Yeah, which she just like, I don't think she realized that she was turning on her like that.

01:27:19

So, yeah. And then she gets sentenced to death. Convicted in 92, first degree murder.

01:27:28

Sentenced to death. Says to the jury as they're walking out, I hope you all get raped.

01:27:34

Oh my God. Yeah. You can't say that. No. That's fucking horrible. Yeah. And she says that when they convict her and then the next day they have to go back in for sentencing.

01:27:48

And she's like, shit. Probably like, have you noticed the borderline thing? That's what happened yesterday.

01:27:56

Today I'm fine. Don't be mad about that rape thing, okay, guys? Because I was just upset.

01:28:03

I take it back. I'm really, I can be that way sometimes. That's like when you stand up at a table and tell people off and walk out.

01:28:10

and then you're like, I'm sorry, I didn't get my purse. I left my purse on the chair.

01:28:16

Have you done that? Oh, Eileen. I know. Come on. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. That's cheap comedy, and I don't want you to support me in it.

01:28:30

Please. Horrifying. So after almost 20 years in solitary lockdown, on July 1st, 2001, at the age...

01:28:42

Okay, when she was convicted, she was 36 years old. Hi, that's a year younger than me.

01:28:46

If you see these photos of her, you're like, damn, that could be my adopted mother.

01:28:52

Fuck. Okay. Did she do meth and stuff? No, really? Oh, yeah. She was an extreme alcoholic.

01:29:00

Okay. She says a lot of these things were done in blackouts. Alcoholic, yeah, meth-y meth.

01:29:07

I gotta say though, as a blackout alcoholic, I didn't get anything done. It's nice to hear because I always thought like maybe I'm just a bad blackout drunk.

01:29:16

No. Because I don't black out often, but if I do, it's because I fell the fuck asleep.

01:29:20

Yeah. Is that blacking out? With like a weird taco on your chest or something, or you're just like, oh, I wanted to have that at the time.

01:29:26

What's a weird taco? Just a taco from Jack in the Box, I guess is what I'm thinking.

01:29:30

Oh, weird taco. Not a good taco. Like not a, you didn't go to the taco truck and get a good taco.

01:29:36

Oh, you were just like... Or the one that they have now with the egg as the taco.

01:29:42

That's a weird taco. What is it? It's like a fucking... I just... I keep spitting.

01:29:46

I spit so much this whole time. Okay. It's like an... You don't want to know. What?

01:29:50

It's like an egg, like a... Let's say a hard... Or a fried egg. And then they used the fried egg as a taco show What for For breakfast taco I don understand I only seen photos

01:30:07

It's Taco Bell, I think. Is this like a... It's Taco Bell? Yeah, it's like their breakfast...

01:30:10

Taco Bell cannot make eggs. That should not be legal. That shouldn't... They can't handle that.

01:30:17

Whenever you see like an egg in like... It's not scrambled, you're like, Oh, it's a real egg.

01:30:21

I know where this came from. Like, what did they do to that egg to make it look like it's in a real thing?

01:30:26

It's fucking sawdust that's dyed white or something. How many people are going to die because of eggs at Taco Bell?

01:30:35

Like, thousands and thousands. They're like, oh, we forgot to put those ones in the refrigerator.

01:30:40

For nine months. Now they're babies. We thought they kept. We thought they kept.

01:30:48

Okay. Shit. But we should, I feel like from now on at the top of the show, we should go over any new fast food that I haven't heard of.

01:30:58

Because my mind is fucking blown right now. Yesterday, when we were in Tampa, and I was telling Karen, you've been there.

01:31:07

You have an active serial killer. I was telling Karen and everyone else here in the audience about a murder that happened in Lando Lakes.

01:31:18

And Karen lost her fucking mind. I didn't know that was a real place where the butter came from.

01:31:24

I didn't either. I became legitimately starstruck by a city that produces butter.

01:31:34

I'm not putting you down because I didn't know until I was doing my research and I was like, what?

01:31:39

That's crazy. It's just, oh, God bless it. There are good things that happen in this world also.

01:31:47

It's just nice to remember that there's a lake filled with butter somewhere in Florida.

01:31:53

I love that. I love that. Put that on the positivity board. Put it on the positivity board next time.

01:32:00

That won't get you fired. Probably. Don't forget Land O'Lakes, everybody. Edward, get in here now.

01:32:07

Stop using the positivity board. It was Edward. Yeah. Good. um so after almost 20 years solitary fucking lockdown writing awful yeah writing down crazy

01:32:23

fucking letters for four days four times a day and these are bananas letters sometimes they're

01:32:28

coherent sometimes they're not it's really fucking sad like for a moment i hadn't really

01:32:32

read about a lot of this and for a moment i felt really bad for her and then i was like oh wait a

01:32:37

minute she fucking killed a bunch of people in cold blood for no fucking reason yeah okay got it

01:32:41

um and okay at the age of 45 she goes up to the state and is like can we stop it with it

01:32:49

mandated appeals and can you just kill me no yeah she's like i'm sick of um all the fucking taxpayer

01:32:56

money going to this it's bullshit and they were like hey remember when you said you wanted us to

01:33:01

be raped the answer's no well she was like people every time that i get uh that the appeals get

01:33:09

overturned some fucking big wig politician gets like his bump because he fucking um you know

01:33:15

keeps her yeah keeps her in and that's the guy who's hard on crime and like she's she's kind of

01:33:20

over it and crazy yeah clearly um so she said she says look bros the murders weren't in a

01:33:27

warrant self-defense i fucking killed them because i were i robbed them and i didn't want

01:33:32

any witnesses. So they're like, okay, uh, let's do it. And so at the, I'm paraphrasing at the,

01:33:41

okay, she were like, what happened to our legal system? Well, and cause that in and of itself

01:33:46

could be a lie. I mean, like there's so it's such a great area. And she took it back later, but

01:33:51

I don't know how to feel about her. I know the age of 46 years old, October 9th, 2002,

01:33:57

she is put to death. She said on the stand when she's doing this thing, I kill again.

01:34:05

I have hate crawling through my system. Oh. And that's it. 2002. That's Aileen, your girl.

01:34:12

Aileen Wuornos. Wow. Fuck. She had it real bad, but there's lots of people that have it real bad.

01:34:24

Yeah. That's the thing. That is the thing. Yeah. Who wants a jewelry box? We don't have one.

01:34:32

We have time for a quick hometown. We do too. Okay, we're back. Are there any updates for this case?

01:34:41

Nothing really new to report. In October of 2025, Netflix did just release the documentary,

01:34:48

Eileen, Queen of the Serial Killers, which explores Eileen's case. It's got a lot of great information, so check that out if you're interested.

01:34:55

And then also the owner of the last resort bar, which I have a T-shirt from from that show.

01:35:00

Someone brought me. Oh, that's right. Remember? That's yes. So the owner of that bar, Al Bulling, owns some of Eileen's belongings and believes that she haunts his bar.

01:35:11

And I feel like it almost seems like she's wanted there, which is like a nice little button on that where she was just so, you know, such an outcast.

01:35:21

Yes, like that's somewhere she belonged As opposed to haunting this strip of highway

01:35:26

Where she killed people It's definitely a nicer idea Totally Okay, now we're going to go back into this live show

01:35:33

And listen to a hometown from the audience Tell them the rules There's rules They're really quick

01:35:43

Let's just do some rules really quick It would be nice if you're If the hometown that you have is from Florida

01:35:50

It's just more fun, right? Because then other people can yell at whatever city you name.

01:35:55

It's good if you're not so drunk that you lose your own place in your own story but that's up to you um and you can't read off paper those are the rules so

01:36:07

with that in mind it's george's night to pick i hate this don't torture them okay you right there

01:36:17

oh my god uh-oh okay but go over there vince vince is right over there here bring him his sunglasses

01:36:26

How are you going to get out? Yeah, just come over this. Oh, can she climb over the two of you?

01:36:32

Yeah, let her come over. Oh my God. Yeah, save some time. Yes, I love this. Yes.

01:36:40

Right down there. Thank you. Thank you for that. I saw her face when you went, you can't be that.

01:36:45

She was raising her hand, then you go, you can't be that drunk. And she goes, that's me.

01:36:48

Like, she got so excited that she wasn't that drunk. I'm right on the verge. Where'd she go?

01:36:57

Uh-oh. Vince is like, go get my sunglasses. So much pressure. Where'd she go? There she comes.

01:37:05

I see shadows. She's partying backstage. Uh-oh. Come on, honey. Get out of here.

01:37:10

Yay. Hi. Hi. Hi, guys. What's her name? I'm Kristen. Kristen? Kristen, this is Kristen.

01:37:19

Come over here. Stand on the magic rug. Okay, yeah. Here we go. Where are you from?

01:37:24

Here. Orlando. Orlando. Nice, calm down. Yeah. Okay, so this one is about my mom's best friend when she was like 20, 21.

01:37:35

She went over to her best friend Catherine's house because they were planning her wedding because she was engaged, Catherine.

01:37:41

She was engaged to this guy named Keith. And when they went over there, Catherine was missing because she had, I guess, gone get hair dye or something.

01:37:52

But she never came back. She's, cops come and they have found her body in the trunk of the car.

01:38:02

She's been beaten and stabbed. And it turns out, I'm gonna make it pretty short.

01:38:08

It turns out that her fiance Catherine fiance Keith best friend Danny actually really hated Catherine and was in love with Keith

01:38:21

Oh, shit. Oh, fuck. And, yes. This is a new one. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah, and it gets even better.

01:38:31

Well, not better. Worse, worse, worse. You guys get it. Definitely worse. Definitely worse.

01:38:36

Yeah, definitely worse. Well, it turns out that he used to like make our Danny used to make fun of Catherine all the time because apparently we find out what happens

01:38:46

Yeah, but he also used to call her the lazy pig like she would call her a lazy pig all the time. That's not a fun

01:38:51

They found her car Behind a restaurant called the lazy pig Is that here in Orlando or not any longer but yes, it was

01:39:02

What kind of restaurant was it? I'm gonna go with barbecue I don't know. Wow. Makes sense.

01:39:10

That's good. Deduction. Something. Yeah. But yeah, it was my mom. He did that on purpose?

01:39:14

Like to send him. No, it was a total message sent. They actually did not find out it was him until a really long time after.

01:39:25

With Jeff Ashton. He was part of the Casey Anthony. Oh, yeah, yeah. He started a whole cold case thing in Orlando.

01:39:33

And she was actually the very first cold case that they solved. so it wasn't until a long time after but like what we got our guy yeah how many years was it

01:39:43

um i want to say probably a good 15 oh wow yeah i was like because this happened in the early 70s

01:39:50

and they didn't find out until like more towards late 80s so wow can you imagine this whole time

01:39:56

your friends like keith's like fucking crying and his friends helping him and then it turned

01:40:00

out to be my with oh my god oh yeah because he was like you said he was consoling and everything and

01:40:05

what a creep yeah that's crazy like definitely like a passion murder like and what was her name

01:40:13

katherine katherine her name was katherine which is what really matters yeah exactly wow that's

01:40:18

that was horrifying yeah the lazy pig part is what freaks me out lazy pig is the fucking worst yeah

01:40:24

oh man you would have loved that jewelry box i feel bad now oh shit because i was like what if we give it to someone and they like i don want this shit And I was like she would love it This is pretty cool I good with this Okay yay Kristen everybody

01:40:38

That was great. Thank you. So good. Should we give her Vince's sunglasses as a gift?

01:40:47

That was awesome. Yeah, wow. Well done. Lazy pig. Keep your eyes peeled for the friend of the boyfriend that's a dick to you.

01:40:56

So just, there's always something. Boys, don't let your friends be dicks to your girlfriends.

01:41:02

And mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys. I would say that's more important.

01:41:08

That's a better. Don't you think? We're back. So this episode was originally titled

01:41:17

Live at the Hard Rock in Orlando. But if we were naming it today, we would call it based on the episode.

01:41:22

Lady Buxton, for sure. It's gotta be. What a name. What a perfect name. And then also, That's Not Glitter Baby, the piece of fucking confetti that just flew down into this woman's lap.

01:41:34

Like she was fucking blessed. It was amazing. It's so weird. It's like memento. I'm getting flashes of this show because it had those big boxes.

01:41:43

They had boxes that kind of went up into the sky, right? Like it looked futuristic in that theater.

01:41:47

Yeah. It looked like an actual amphitheater. But yeah, that was... And also described the interior of that jewelry box that it's salmon on the inside, which aren't we all?

01:41:57

Salmon on the inside. And then also, and we called it The Rock, which is your burnout hangout, which I want to go to.

01:42:05

Take me there, please. Wine cooler rock. I think it's all grown over now. All right.

01:42:10

Well, thanks, you guys, for listening to Rewind. Let's go say goodbye from the Orlando live show.

01:42:19

Fuck, Orlando. I mean that. Thank you. I feel like that went so fast. It did. That went really fast.

01:42:28

What a fucking incredible show. Thank you so much for getting tickets, standing in line, doing all this.

01:42:36

Yeah. Thank you for having us. Florida was not the state that I didn't want to go to.

01:42:41

I wanted to come here because you guys just have so many murders Yeah I mean So excited It crazy The choices It was an embarrassment of riches Yeah Oh now you guys have to let Kristen sit down

01:42:53

But as she passes, tell her what a great job she did. Great job. We really appreciate you guys all being here,

01:43:01

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My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgi

Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 96: Live at the Hard Rock in Orlando

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