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Welcome foolish mortals. Hey weirdos, I'm Ash. I'm Elena and also Pennywise's side piece. Yeah.
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And this is Morbid. [Music] Happy Halloween, y'all. Hey, welcome back to listener tales.
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>> We got We got Pennywise's side piece and me, Madame Leota. I mean, a moment. A
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moment for me, the table. >> for this. Shoutout to my husband for making this for me mostly. Shoutout to
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Drew. He made like the head thing and the table and then I decorated it. >> It's I hot glued. I burned the [ __ ] out
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of my fingers on some hot glue. Oh, I never I love that you have to do this to look at me.
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>> Yeah. Cuz you look like you're like Yeah. I can see your future. >> I always burn the [ __ ] out of myself
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when I use hot glue. I cannot not burn the [ __ ] out of myself. >> It's hard. Welcome to the club. It's a
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hard knock life. >> a hard knock life. We're trying something new today. Um it was
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absolutely impossible for me to use my laptop in my current state. >> Yeah. In my current state.
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>> current state. So the TV is behind one of the cameras and we're going to read
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off of that. And if it works out, I think it could be better for filming. >> Yeah, cuz we will we'll have our hands
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more and we'll be able to use more props and [ __ ] >> Well, some of us don't have hands, but
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>> some of us don't. Maybe later you'll get some. >> Or maybe in the future they'll grow
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back. >> Yeah. You can see the future, so tell us. I feel like hands. I feel like hands. I feel like hands.
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>> You heard it here first. Madame Ray Leota said that. I should have done some kind of crazy
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spin on this. Like Mick missed opportunity. >> Hey, I have the table and I'm trying to
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use it much much more in the future because this is too good to not use all the time.
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>> We're going to use it again. >> Imagine I'm Madame Ray Leota. Damn. Oh my god.
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>> some Goodfellas [ __ ] in there. >> Absolutely. >> All right. What You know what? We'll put
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in our pocket. >> wound in my head. Put in our pocket and we'll figure it out next time. Yay.
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>> Um so hold on, I'm done with my my coffee, I suppose. So we're going to try this. We're going to
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read on the thing and if it works out, it works out. >> Yeah. And if it doesn't, we'll go back
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to laptop. >> then [ __ ] it. We'll be laptop first. I'm laptop forward again. Yeah.
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>> Okay. So tell us what you think. And also my audio might be like a little bit
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different. I'm in a globe. Yeah. That's it that that will that will be a little different.
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>> Yeah. We'll be different. But it'll be good, I think. >> I think so. Mikey's the producer. He's
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nodding his head. I don't produce this. I'm just it. >> It's fine. >> Yeah, it's fine. So who's starting here
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cuz we have Halloween tales. >> We have Halloween tales. >> Halloween. Thanks to Deb Deb.
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>> I need to curve my spine a little bit more. Oh, yeah. >> That's uh That's the stuff. She's really
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committed, guys. I'm super committed right now. >> Very committed. All right. Do you want
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to start or do you want me to? Yeah, I'll start. >> Okay, start. >> So this one's called He said his name
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was Bart Simpson? Who knows? Me. Hey Ash and Elena, long time listener, long time
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lover of you both. Oh my god, I love you too. >> Thank you. Your voices keep me company
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at work, at home, insert literally any activity here including when I'm trying to sleep. I adore your banter.
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We love when someone adores the banter. Most people do, I think. >> so, too. >> Yeah. Thank you for loving us.
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>> you for that. And the clear love you have for each other makes listening feel
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like a warm haunted hug. >> That's so sweet. I like you. >> I like you a lot. >> Yeah. I'm going to move this so I can
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see you. There you go. We can high five. See, I saw hands. You saw hands, Ray Leota. My name is Manda and you can use
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my name. There are 1 trillion of us, so it's not like it's mysterious. I've even
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dropped the A because I'm still dirty at mom for I'm still dirty at mom for using
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such a popular name. Although she did want to call my younger sister Echo. Wow. Imagine if you were Manda and Echo.
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Manda and Echo. >> I'd be real pissed. I begged her not to and said the teacher will do roll call
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and get her to get to her and say Hate it, he said. >> He said hate it? He said ancient. Oh, I thought he said
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hate it like hate Echo. >> Oh, that would have been funny. Uh the teacher will do roll call and get
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to her and say Echo Echo Echo. Which would kind of be funny to be honest. She thankfully decided on Gemma, so maybe I
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dodged a bullet. >> Ooh, Gemma's pretty. >> That is pretty. Now let me take you back
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to the early 2000s. I was 12. My little sister was eight and we lived in a cozy little Australian suburb. Not quite
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rural, but outside the city. Directly across the road were two other sisters, exactly our ages. Dream come true,
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right? Built-in besties you could walk to barefoot. Everybody wants that. >> that's awesome. At the time our family
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had just converted the garage under our house into bedrooms for my sister and I.
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It felt like the pinnacle of independence, far enough from mom and stepdad to feel like big kids, but still
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within yelling distance if needed. We even had an intercom system, which we definitely abused.
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>> Oh, that's cool. >> As you should. >> I want an intercom system. >> If you have an intercom system, abuse
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it. >> Abuse the [ __ ] out of it. >> That's me telling you. Uh one afternoon, probably inspired by
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one of my late night Charmed or Buffy binge sessions. My kind of girlies. We decided to make
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our own Ouija board. Succeed. >> He said go forth and find success with your Ouija board.
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>> will succeed. That kind of thinking is successful thinking. Did he just say come forward and kneel?
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He gets so [ __ ] reckless. I don't know what YouTube takes off, but like I feel like that's borderline
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YouTube offensive. I don't know what to say about that. Like I'm That was a message for you.
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That's awesome. >> of feelings. >> like that one. He gets so spicy. Like okay, Nicholas.
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Damn. >> Nicholas. That's wild. >> Come forward and kneel? No, thank you. Never have, never will.
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I I need to move on from that. That was a lot. >> Okay. >> We should all move on. Clutch my
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balloon. I see the future and we've moved on. I know we have moved on. That like really sent me. I was like
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>> Yeah, it's not good. Feel assaulted. You should. >> Okay. A piece of A3 paper ripped like
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Nicholas, okay. A piece of A3 paper ripped from one of our art assignment books, some scrolled letters and
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numbers, yes and no in the corners, the alphabet and so on. A shot glass from the bar and four little knucklehead kids
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thinking this would be a fun time. Voila. Hello, nightmare fuel. >> Nightmare nightmare nightmare.
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>> At first it was all giggles. The glass barely moved, but when it did, it was jagged and slow. We put down We put it
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down to our giggles. We must be bumping it. We slowed our breathing and decided we would get super witchy with it.
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Really get in the zone. But when we did, the glass did, too. The slow smooth glide of the glass started moving faster
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with more certainty. Not really spelling anything out, just zipping around the board. We asked for its name and the
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letters spelled out B A R T. Bart if you're nasty. I M P S O N. There you go. We all looked at each other with
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slight smiles, but also a little scared. Bart? Not a name I would have thought of
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and neither family were big Simpsons fans, so it felt off, but also a tiny bit comical and surely not really an
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entity called Bart. We continued to ask questions, probably how old he was and when and how he died. The questions and
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answers are foggy and I can't quite recall the details here, probably as a coping mechanism, but I definitely
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remember the fun little make-believe witch coven vibe shifting fast into something more sinister.
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>> That sinister vibe. Without speaking out loud or deciding as a group, we all just
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individually started asking if if we could stop. All of us with vague understanding that it was something you
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were meant to do. You were not meant to take your fingies off without saying goodbye or being granted permission to
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leave the session. We just kept begging, can we please stop? We want to leave. Can we please stop? I hate that.
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>> Yeah, that's awful. >> I hate that. You were smart, though. Can you not just say like okay, we're
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stopping now? I I think you can. I think you can declare >> like I'm ending this now. But maybe cuz
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they were young, we were like we need to get a permission. >> But I don't know. I'm not positive, so
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don't take me. Damn, I guess I won't be doing a Ouija board with you. I know. I need to get I need to read up on my
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[ __ ] Yeah, you better. >> Uh so the glass started between the center of the paper and back to no over
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and over, aggressively fast, maliciously and with what felt like evil intent. And
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that's when things snapped. My sister started bawling. My friend began dry heaving. Damn.
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My friend's little sister Me though, just barfing everywhere. Just dry >> Fingies still on the planchette yakking.
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Everyone's so upset. They're like stop, THAT'S GROSS. I MEAN, I WOULD GET so overstimulated. I'd like GET OUT.
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I CAN'T take my fingies off the planchette. I'm like YOU JUST HAVE TO DIE THEN LEAVE. I CAN'T LISTEN TO THIS DRY HEAVE.
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In the beginning of this she said she liked me and then she just said I guess you have to die then leave.
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>> heaving during the Ouija board session where we're getting like possessed by some evil entity.
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>> Your rules are they they have no serious boundaries. >> they're real. They're solid.
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>> Yeah, I know. Crazy. I know. >> I say from inside of a people. I am. Did he say sit? Sick. Oh, sick.
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>> said you're sick. Thanks, girl. Um okay. My friend's little sister, white as a ghost, blank stare, obviously
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unable to compute what was happening. I couldn't help it. All spooky logic went out the window and in that moment I
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decided to break every spirit communication rule in the book and pulled the cup from the paper and
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snatched the paper and threw it behind me. And we all just sat there cross-legged scanning the room to try to
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find some understanding to what just happened. I began trying to comfort everyone while comforting myself that
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maybe we somehow, I don't know, subconsciously fell into our role too much, became little actresses, and
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didn't realize the talent we were held to, really lean into our witchy characters. But by the distressed look
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on all of our faces, I knew deep down that wasn't true. We bolted upstairs and through breathy
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pants explained the situation to my mom, who basically rolled her eyes and said,
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"You're all being silly. That didn't happen. It's in your imagination." That's so rude. But her generation was
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not one to entertain these types of things, and how could she help anyway? March down and wag her finger in the
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invisible demon's face and scold it for tormenting us? Yes. Feeling awkward and scared, the girls headed home, and I sat
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with our sister in our new cool rooms pretending to be adults and address the bunker situation again without our
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friends near and desperately tried to calm each other down. Seeing my sister too afraid, I decided to do something,
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make a big move, something that goes against everything I stand for. Lie. I lied. I lied. I told her I'd move the
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glass. I had to ease her fear in that moment. I knew she would forgive me, and even though it hurt to see her little
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heartbreak at the thought that I did just try to frighten everyone was super sucky. But she wasn't afraid anymore.
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She was mad, but I knew that wouldn't be forever. You're a good sister. You really are.
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>> to just box that [ __ ] up and sent it back into my noggin. I couldn't make sense of it and it was terrifying, so I
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saw no other option. Fast forward, I'm now 16 living with my dad with a whole different group of friends in my last
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year of high school. No one in my pack with any knowledge of Bart. It was but a vague memory that sat in the back of my
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mind locked in a box, no key in sight. I wasn't afraid of the thought the box was
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there, but I had not even acknowledged it since that day. I'd completely disconnected. The memory was just a
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weird shitty horror movie I once watched. One weekend, my friends and I were hanging out at my dad's while he was
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away for work. Correct. Correct. >> "That's right, baby." >> "Hell yeah, have a party." Classic teen
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chaos. Snark snacks and snarks, I bet. Laughs pretending to be adults but with no responsibilities. What a bloody time.
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>> Aw, I miss it. What a bloody time. As the afternoon went on with a friend in the corner playing guitar, some friends
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up and down the back steps from playing pool under the house, when someone brought up doing Ouija. I noped out.
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It's not that I felt afraid or that the memory was brought to the forefront of my mind. I was still very disconnected
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from it being a real memory at all, but I knew for sure I was not joining in on the seance. I hung in the kitchen while
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some friends got together together their makeshift Ouija board, while I continued
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chatting with another friend. Then I heard one of them laugh and say it. Bart. And remember, she just said she did not
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tell any of her friends this. I should have seen this coming. I imme- You should have, right, Leota? I imme-
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I immediately looked over, and while most of my friends were laughing at the hilariousness of this Simpsons wannabe
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ghost, one friend sat on the lounge had her eyes pinched shut. It caused me immediate discomfort to see her, and as
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I watched her eyes slowly open, I could see that her pupils were large and started to roll back into her head.
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Sorry, what? >> was rising and falling fast as she sank back into the couch. Shallow breaths,
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then really fast breaths. The visual of her felt too intense to register what was happening, but the sign finally
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caught the attention of everyone else in the room. Disturbingly, I remember her tugging at her denim skirt looking as
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though she was using all her strength to drag it to her knees. What? >> Eyes still shut and her breathing her
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breathing intensifying, panic set in. This was my house. I was responsible. My friend is not breathing. I have to call
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an ambulance. My mind raced and I ran into the hallway and picked up the phone to call emergency services. I started
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going through what I would say in my head. Um, yes, hello, we need an ambulance. My friends are doing Ouija
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and Bart and breathing heavy and she's not okay. >> Not in Bart. >> Honestly, in Bart.
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>> Not in Bart. >> her name being yelled out with sounds of relief. I rushed back into the living
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room, everyone crowding around her. She was pale, misty-eyed, and looked exhausted. When she looked directly at
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me with purpose on her face and said, "Don't worry, Manda. My sister got rid of him for you."
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Oh, I just got full chills. Under this table, it's chilly. Her older sister had passed away from an asthma
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attack when she was young. What the [ __ ] I can't explain the cold that settled in me. No one there knew about
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Bart, not a soul, but somehow Because they just didn't know Nicholas. >> know. He shouldn't tell them, okay?
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Sorry. I'll be clear. Shh. She didn't inform her new friends of her old entity, Bart. I love
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Nicholas. What? I'm sorry. Sometimes he scares me. I just like when he goes, "What?"
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[Laughter] "What?" That was so funny. He He was just like, "Can you please explain?"
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I did say it really fast, so sorry, Nicholas. Um, so yeah, she just hadn't let her new
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friends in on her old friend, Bart, okay? Woo. Anyway. No one knew about Bart, not
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a soul, but somehow he had followed me or had been with me since then or something. I like the dot dot dot or
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something. >> I just kept saying to myself in almost a chant, "It didn't hurt me, so it's okay.
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I was never scared. Nothing happened. I'm fine. It didn't hurt me. I was never scared. Nothing happened. I'm fine. It
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didn't hurt me." Aw. We are doing a lot of fast forwarding here. I apologize. Never apologize.
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>> You're fine. But over a decade later, a memory jogged that moment loose from whatever dusty mental box I'd shoved it
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in, and I needed to know, did that day really happen? Surely it was some weird memory I'd formed after years of
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listening and watching morbid material. Tia. Tia. I decided to message a friend who was
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there, someone I hadn't spoken to since high school. "Hey, do you remember that afternoon at my dad's, the Ouija board?
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Tia." It sat on red for a week. Then finally, I I'd be like, "Fuck you then." Yeah.
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Guess you don't. But honestly, if it was me, it would also sit on red for a week,
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so double-edged sword there. Then finally, I got a reply. Was that English? >> What did he say? He called me annoying.
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Wow, rude. I love that he's not doing it to me this week. Who's he doing it to? I mean, you're
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reading. I did just say it would also sit on red for a week with me, and he said annoying.
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>> Yeah, he said it's annoying. He said that's a yucky tactic. >> I I accept that, Nicholas. I accept it.
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That is annoying. I'm trying to work on it, okay? She's working on it. >> on it.
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>> She's going to get it really hard. Takes more fast. >> my best. >> Yeah. Um, I'm sorry, but I can't go
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there. I worked really hard to get over the trauma of that day, seeing our friend like that, the feeling in the
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room. It was terrifying. I had nightmares for years. I love that you just like completely re-traumatized this
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person, like It's kind of iconic. >> That message, that response broke my heart, but it also confirmed something
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I'd doubted for years. Bart was real. He was there, and I think he was right beside me for all those years doing who
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knows what. Twerking. Anyways, I'm almost 38 now, and I'm still very disconnected from that experience. Still
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super close with my sister, though. Hell yeah. Aw. >> And I've confessed to her only recently
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that I did lie to her that day, that I did not move the glass. >> I lied to you about lying.
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>> shuts that [ __ ] down quick and says she doesn't want to talk about it anymore,
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ever. I just say, "It didn't hurt me, so it's okay. I was never scared. Nothing happened. I'm fine. It didn't hurt me. I
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was never scared. Nothing happened. I'm fine. It didn't hurt me." That's a great ender.
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>> That's a good one. >> I like that one. >> Also, that was like a really spooky way
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to end. It's just chanting that over and over. >> Yeah, honestly. Damn. Spooky. >> I like that one. I like that one, too.
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>> Manda, you killed it. I was looking at the wrong camera. Manda, you killed it.
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>> Good job, Manda. Am I just giving this to you? >> Yes, please. >> this. Put it on my hand.
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>> let me put it under your Goodbye. Bye. How do I go to the next one? You just two fingers and scroll. Oh. They're on
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the same thing. I think this is the move, everybody. This one is called The Void With Eyes,
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my own passenger demon. It's a void with eyes. All right, it says, "Greetings, ladies of Morbid."
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Nicholas, I got to read every now and again. What did he say? >> Nicholas. Should I turn him off?
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>> Did he just say bedroom? He said bedroom. What the [ __ ] is happening? >> First, he's like kneeling in front of
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me, and now he's like, "Bedroom." Nicholas. You got to wine and dine a lady first, okay?
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Anyways, greetings, ladies, which we are of Morbid. In case you didn't know, Nicholas.
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>> Treat us like such. Attached is my submission for listener tales at the request of my wife. Hell yeah. We are
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both fans, and she thinks this tale of possible demon possession {slash} interaction will pique your interests. I
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think it will do. In exchange for your time, I offer you no less than three photos of our
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kitties, Maximus and Giles. Bet you can't guess who he's named after. Rupert Giles.
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>> I love it. I love that. I hope it is. I hope so. I mean >> Not Giles Corey. Yeah. Giles. That's a
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Giles Corey. Giles Corey. Giles Corey. >> Oh, could be Giles Corey, too. Well, let us know.
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Attached is the story in a 14-point double-space PDF that when it was 12-point and single-space was roughly
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six pages and took me about 4 minutes to read aloud. Please feel free to edit as
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much as needed or reach out if you have any questions. Never will edit it. >> but we won't edit.
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This is from Chris. Greetings, Morbid Mistresses, Queens of the Cast, Wonderful Weird Women of the
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Interwebs. >> Oh, I love when people come up with very elite names for us. >> It's fun.
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>> Love that. >> Yeah. Queens of the Cast is fun. >> Queens of the Cast, yeah. Wonderful
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Weird Women of the Internet and Interwebs. I like it. >> I like it all. Yeah. My name is Chris,
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and you can use my name. That's good cuz I happen. Chris? >> Everyone else does. At the request of my
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lovely wife, Britney, please use her name. She will be stoked on life. Chris and Britney? Chris and Britney. Hell
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yeah. Who introduced me to your show. I am now submitting one of my personal favorite tales from my wildly
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irresponsible years. Yes, we love those kind of years. >> come with great stories.
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>> They do. Some quick backstory on what to expect. I dabbled with cursed objects
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and came back haunted, unfortunately without Trent Reznor. I'm sad for you. >> I know, that's a bummer. For the
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obligatory fandom, I've thoroughly enjoyed your take on true crime and overall style of your podcast. I've been
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pleasantly surprised with the content and overall humorous bantering that you both provide.
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>> People are loving the banter. >> People like the banter. Oh my god. Also, I'm late to the party, but
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congratulations Elena on The Butcher and the Wren. Thank you. And congratulations
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Ash on your marriage. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Oh, what did I do? Oh, no.
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Okay, we're good. We're done. I wanted to thank you both for making our hourish each way drive from to and
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from work more bearable, giving us plenty to discuss. You're welcome. >> You're welcome. Also included with this
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tale are pictures of our meow pals, Maximus and Giles. We love that. Yes, Giles is named after Rupert Giles from
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Buffy. Britney and I also enjoy listening to the Rewatcher almost as much as Angel and Giles diving into
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piles of trash for rats in becoming part one. >> Oh my god. Chris. Listen to the
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Rewatcher. Chris. That was iconic. >> That was iconic. To slip that into a listener tales next level.
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>> Truly. And to have a cat named Rupert Giles, come on. All of the above. You're
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really killing it at life. Queen magic. Well, apologies for the length of length
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of this if you Never apologize. Never. If you do deem it long, feel free to edit as needed. No. No. I feel there was
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some important context here, so I hope you enjoy. Moving on to the tale. >> Let us travel back to the ancient times.
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>> Let's go. The '90s. I know, it hurts me, too. Did he say sick? What? What did he say? Did he say throbbed? I
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think he said sick and then drowned. Drowned? Okay. >> He says drowned a lot. >> I think he drowned. Did you drown,
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Nicholas? >> I'm worried for you. I know. You can tell us. It's okay. Even though you're
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being gross, you can still tell us. All right, so Ugh, I do miss the '90s, Chris. Me too. Those four years were
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awesome. Well, here we are, back in the '90s where an angsty child was exposed to
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dark I was going to say jeans. Dark jeans. To dark genres entirely too early and the
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macabre spoke to them. Ugh. That honestly describes both of our upbringings. >> Yeah. One because I had you and you
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because you are just creepy. Yeah, because I'm just naturally weird. So, I grew up on science fiction, horror, and
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fantasy. No regrets. But, this led to a natural and very active interest in the supernatural. Fast forward to the late
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teens/early '20s when I was living my high my high life as an hourly manager of Spencer's Gifts in Utah.
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>> Oh, you really killed it with that. >> You really killed it. >> I ended up working at Spencer's
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immediately out of high school and made friends with the odd ducks working there
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already, namely John, my manager then and now long-time friend. We love John. The best part about my interview was
00:22:51
being told later that he effectively stopped listening to my job experience after I mentioned previously having a
00:22:57
pet bat. He was confident that I met his expectations after that. >> I love you and John.
00:23:02
>> I'd like to know a lot more about your pet bat, please. >> Yeah, I really want to know about that.
00:23:05
John spoke to all my inner '90s kid angst and we shared most of the same interests and history growing up. We're
00:23:11
just listening. We're listening. >> What's going on, doll? What do you have to say? He said, "Please listen."
00:23:20
So, John spoke to all my inner '90s kids angst and we shared most of the interests the same interests and
00:23:26
history growing up. This was a nice change for being characterized by the or chastised by the locals. I was that guy,
00:23:32
always wearing black trench coats, not fearing the sky not fearing sky grandpa, etc. Not fearing
00:23:39
Sky grandpa goes >> Sky grandpa goes crazy. I love it. John was the big brother I never had and we
00:23:44
got along swimmingly. Now, that is all the gushy [ __ ] Oh, now that all the gushy [ __ ] is out of the way, you can
00:23:50
now understand why John took me under his wing and began to teach me about magic, supernatural forces, and that
00:23:55
which I always felt calling out to me, but never knew how to answer. John sounds awesome. He does. You're kind of
00:24:01
my John. I Oh my god. >> Yeah. I'm your John. You're my John. That sounds weird. You're my Chris. Yay.
00:24:07
There you go. All right, so spoilers. Should have sent that That called a voicemail.
00:24:12
Oh. Oh. I'm scared. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. What's going to happen? We started small. John was trying to determine if I
00:24:20
had any ability to detect or otherwise sense these types of things in my vicinity and whether I had any
00:24:25
connection at all to the forces at large. The specific tests aren't important to what follows, but necessary
00:24:31
according to John based on what I told him about my life. I've always been a bit weird and I've had on multiple
00:24:37
occasions been exposed to strange or inexplicable events with others present. I don't know why I'm a magnet for weird
00:24:43
stuff and the weirdness of life had come knocking several times before. I've encountered ghosts on multiple
00:24:48
occasions, future sight Say. Madam Realiota. I cannot get over that. And accurately predicting the future.
00:24:59
And also having been temporarily possessed. Asterisk. Future listener tale if you would like. That's what we
00:25:05
call burying the lead. We would like. Yes. >> The specific item I do need to call out
00:25:09
here as relevant is a vivid, terrible, and specific recurring dream of me versus me that I have experienced off
00:25:16
and on. I essentially dream battle the Cenobite-empowered version of myself for domination of my mind and presumable
00:25:23
soul. That's the coolest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. >> that you don't do that.
00:25:29
Why have I never fought the Cenobite version of myself? Why have I never seen the Cenobite version of myself?
00:25:36
>> Elena's deeply pissed right now. I can feel it. It's like ruminating. I want to see the Cenobite version of
00:25:43
myself. I don't know if I want to see the Cenobite version of myself. >> I smell another costume.
00:25:51
Uh-oh. Here we go. >> coolest thing I've ever heard. Well, the dream has afflicted me ever since the
00:25:56
said possession episode. Good times. Yeah. John decided to really see if I've got any sort of ability and goes to his
00:26:03
room and locked cabinet. Oh. I don't I don't like that he went to a locked cabinet.
00:26:07
>> Yeah. Now, despite being pretty fookin weird, I am a very rational and logistical
00:26:12
person. What did he say? He said, "Down there." He is getting so spicy these days.
00:26:22
I'm not sure about this. Nicholas, is that you or is this like somebody else? I'm I'm feeling a little bit
00:26:30
feeling a little bit Did SK follow us from the SK period? >> Honey, SK didn't follow me, he followed
00:26:35
you. I got to go. Want her, remember? >> I got to go. All right, so now despite being pretty fookin weird whoa what?
00:26:43
Pretty fookin weird. Pretty fookin weird. I'm a very rational and logical person. Yeah. When I see a locked
00:26:48
cabinet, I immediately assume valuables or weapons, which makes perfect sense to
00:26:53
me why those would be locked up. >> Yeah. What did not make sense was the immediate sense of uneasiness that I
00:26:58
felt wandering into this room where the cabinet was and the increasing feeling that followed once the cabinet opened.
00:27:05
I assured myself it was nerves and all in my head. At this point, knowing John, this was the first time I'd been to his
00:27:10
apartment, so this was all new to me anyway. John removed only one item from the
00:27:15
locked cabinet, an object wrapped curiously in ornately marked in in ornately marked silk cloth and its own
00:27:23
individual bindings keeping the cloth in place. Ooh. This was ominous as hell. Yeah, it sure was.
00:27:29
>> Yeah. And once unwrapped, I could see what the hubbub was about, a mirror. Ooh. A round, single piece of glass with
00:27:37
a silver-colored metallic rim. The mirror itself was blackened glass, but otherwise plain. That sounds sick as
00:27:43
[ __ ] >> awesome. I like that. Is it like a scrying A scrying mirror. That's exactly
00:27:48
what I was just thinking. >> Look at that. The one specific phrase that John said as he did this was, "Do
00:27:52
not look directly at yourself in this mirror." >> Oh, no. I'd immediately look directly at myself
00:27:58
in that mirror. >> My vain ass. >> The second someone tells you, right? I'd be like, "How am I looking, though?"
00:28:04
It's just the second someone tells me not to. We were We did an investigation recently where they said, "Don't look at
00:28:09
the symbol." Did you look at the symbol? >> I kept looking at the symbol. Oh my god,
00:28:13
Chris. >> She said this person said, "Don't look at the symbol You looked at it?
00:28:17
>> you in a trance." And I was like, "Well, fuck." And I just started looking at the
00:28:20
cuz I was like, "Oh, no." >> Did you go into a trance? >> Stop. No, I didn't because I kept
00:28:24
stopping myself. But, the second you tell me not to do something cuz I'm going to go into a trance or I'm going
00:28:28
to explode, I'm going to do it. You know what, though? Jeez. Even if they tell you you're going to explode, you know I
00:28:32
don't want to. It's just I'm built that way. You tell me to do something not to do something, I'm like, "Broop." You are
00:28:37
pretty defiant. She told me not to look at the symbol and I said, "Got it." She said, "Don't look at the symbol." And I
00:28:41
said, "Ugh, I'm going to look at it so hard." And then I did. >> the right scenario, I I'll listen. Like
00:28:47
if there's You put me in the room with like a button and it says, "Don't push this." I'm going to struggle.
00:28:53
Struggle, but don't >> to struggle. Try to succeed in the end, you know? I try. Oh my table's moving.
00:28:59
That's so weird. Maybe my leg's tired. Anyway. Maybe the table is tired. Maybe the
00:29:05
table is tired. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe it's yawning. I don't know that table's life.
00:29:10
You know, it's sentient. So, don't look at yourself in the mirror, he explained. And he explained
00:29:15
that it was a type of seer's glass or special device used to see what normal eyes are not attuned to. It's fair to
00:29:22
say at this point I was skeptical skeptical. And next, he showed me how to hold the mirror in such a way that I
00:29:27
could see reflections, but not myself. He said he would he would explain why not to look at myself once I proved that
00:29:34
I could see with the mirror. Okay. I I would want some explanations beforehand. Yeah.
00:29:40
I absolutely would. I may have some certifiable smooth brain moments in my lifetime. We all to I know how to hold a
00:29:46
mirror, I know what they do, or I thought I did. This is the part where I apologize if
00:29:51
you brought the whole seat because you're only going to need the edge for this [ __ ] show. That was funny.
00:29:56
sentence. I like that a lot. Remember the uneasy feeling I mentioned going into the room with the cabinet? I do. I
00:30:02
do. I held the mirror over my left shoulder as John directed, positioned the mirror
00:30:07
so the reflection was facing the doorway to John's cabinet room, and almost immediately dropped it.
00:30:13
An ethereal hazy outline of what appeared to be a person standing in the doorway of the room, mimicking the shape
00:30:19
of a humanoid but was clearly not. Oh. I hate it here. No. The only distinguishable features I could focus
00:30:28
on were a claw hand on the door frame, small protrusions on the head, and shoulders resembling spikes or bones,
00:30:38
and two eyes that I could tell were looking at mine as I did theirs. [Laughter] [Applause]
00:30:54
[Laughter] What did you just say, Africa, Nicholas? He said, "It's getting too heavy."
00:31:12
IT'S GETTING TOO WEIRD in here. I'm going to laugh at you. I got to laugh at you. I got to bring a flash of
00:31:17
geography. Nicholas, so freaking hot. >> to crap on them. I can't cry on them. >> Oh my god, I can't cry either cuz I have
00:31:25
no hands. Oh my god. >> saw them once or twice? No, you didn't. Thank you. Africa, what boy?
00:31:32
>> Africa. Maybe he misses the rains. >> He blessed the rains down in Africa. Damn, Nicholas. All right. Wow.
00:31:43
>> Wow. Appreciate that little palate cleanser. So, the being almost looks like it was trapped in that space by the
00:31:50
tenacity it was exhibiting to move toward me, but it stopped by It was stopped by some sort of barrier. I'm
00:31:56
assuming the look on my face was what caused John to burst out laughing. What a dick wad. Kind of love John. Yeah,
00:32:01
you're the John. He took the mirror from my hand before my shaky hands dropped it. He explained
00:32:06
that this being arrived after he was previously attempted or after he had previously attempted to perform
00:32:11
incantations unsuccessfully. Oh. >> And stressed to me the importance of not meddling with natural order.
00:32:19
I love that he was like, "Just taught you some shit." >> Yeah, he said, "You don't see him." Some
00:32:23
[ __ ] That's wild. >> Damn. That's crazy. And he said, "I shouldn't do that when learning about
00:32:28
the magic when learning about magic and paranormal." Um, what? That's all I get?
00:32:33
Don't do that? [ __ ] you, John, if you're listening. Love you, though. Did I listen? [ __ ] no, of course not. Of
00:32:39
course not. Like I would send you a story that ends with smudgy glass. Just kidding, it wasn't smudgy glass. I did
00:32:43
try to clean it, though. Going back to the mirror, I did the same thing and saw the being in that room
00:32:49
watching, glaring. I could feel the intensity of it as I moved around the living room. Any angle I directed the
00:32:54
mirror at the room's doorway, I could see this being focused very intently on me. John even walked through the doorway
00:33:01
to prove to me that there was nothing in or on the mirror that could simulate what I had seen.
00:33:06
It wasn't long after this that things began to escalate. They always do. It hasn't already? I know, right? Damn.
00:33:13
Fast forward a couple more months to where my mother decided to run away from her abusive husband, and I needed a new
00:33:18
place to live because I didn't want to become the new target of abuse. Oh. Big brother John took me in, of course.
00:33:25
I love that. Okay, I take it back. John is not an [ __ ] >> I always believed in you, John. Right?
00:33:30
After moving in with John and the entire time leading up to, I grew increasingly
00:33:33
curious about the mirror and other occult objects that he had. I don't blame you. But never as curious as I was
00:33:40
about the mirror. His only request was that I only use or study these items in his presence for safety, as he said.
00:33:46
[ __ ] I've been possessed, I thought. I can handle this. I waited for John to leave one day, and
00:33:52
then I opened up the horror cabinet, which I now had access to regularly. Oh, no. I removed the mirror from its
00:33:58
encasing and held it in my hand. Chris, you are [ __ ] up right now. >> Chris? You know those moments where you
00:34:04
tell yourself you shouldn't do something and you do it anyway? Yeah. I looked at the mirror. I raised it
00:34:09
slowly, and with my eyes closed. Once at face level, I opened my eyes, and initially the panic did not set in.
00:34:16
It was seemingly a normal dark mirror and otherwise worked as a mirror should. Insert hecken concerned. Hecken
00:34:22
concerned. >> When I felt the same unusual feeling from the first time that I entered the
00:34:26
room months before, and what I felt the first time I used the mirror, but did not see the same entity I had before.
00:34:33
Instead, I only saw the room reflected in the dark glass and myself. This next part I'll do my best to
00:34:40
explain, but I don't know if I can truly divine the horror of this moment. I felt internally. Oh, I thought that
00:34:47
was a new sentence. LOL. He said, "I don't know if I can truly divine the horror of this moment that I felt
00:34:53
internally." I was getting really ghost with it. >> You were. I very distinctly remember thinking to
00:35:00
myself, "I must have been crazy to think that this was anything more than just a
00:35:03
mirror." And saw the reflection smirk in the in the way that I normally would, except
00:35:09
that I hadn't physically moved. Oh. I was almost paralyzed everywhere except my eyes. My attention focused intently
00:35:17
on my reflection in the mirror. I doubted what I saw at first. What? She told me.
00:35:26
Oh. Dang. I didn't tell him. What did you tell him? I didn't tell him [ __ ] >> Elena definitely told him something. Do
00:35:31
you guys believe her? I don't. >> I didn't tell him anything. >> Oh, wow, hands.
00:35:34
>> I didn't. I promise. Oh my god, I didn't see it. What? Nope. No one did. So, I noticed that my expression in the
00:35:40
reflection changed from my own, turning into a scowl and gradually changing into
00:35:45
wide wicked a wide wicked smile. Oh. As the mirror moved farther away from Why is he getting so loud? What did he
00:35:54
say? >> said he said Was that just okay? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> Cuz he's like, "God." Do you want me to
00:36:00
turn him down? No, it's like No, it's weird. >> like raises his voice sometimes.
00:36:03
>> He yells at me. Yeah, he does. >> like when He yells at you. >> men yell at me. Doesn't end well for
00:36:08
them. So, as the mirror moved farther away from my face and overall my reflection
00:36:12
faded out, the hazy outline of our previously mentioned hellish version of myself from my recurring dreams stared
00:36:19
intently at me. It's the Cenobite version. The Cenobite. I can't tell you how jealous I am that you've seen the
00:36:25
Cenobite version of yourself. We laughed. I want that so bad. know if you do based on this story. I just want to
00:36:31
see it. >> I'm not sure. I want to know what I look like as a Cenobite. Maybe somebody can
00:36:35
just draw it for you, and you don't have to go through all this. Okay. There's three
00:36:40
>> versions of me as a Cenobite, maybe. That's what it is? That's what I'm thinking. Well, we lost eye contact. I
00:36:47
panicked and wrapped up the mirror, placing it back in the cabinet, then closing the door to John's room. Smart.
00:36:52
That was the first time I saw myself outside of a dream. This was the first time I truly started to fear that my
00:36:58
previous experiences I know I don't really know what happened there. >> of let it go. to fear to fear to fear
00:37:05
that my previous experiences were real. A little. Did you say I'm scared? A little.
00:37:11
>> Are you scared? Yeah, I am scared. I am a little, Nicholas. Well, I sat I sat what Hold on.
00:37:17
Fear. I just sat for what felt like an eternity trying to wrap my mind around what I had just experienced, and
00:37:23
infinitely made this worse by going to our bathroom to try to wash off my face and gather myself.
00:37:28
As I walked past the mirror in the bathroom, out of the corner of my eye, I could see that my reflection was not the
00:37:34
same as what I was wearing. Oh. Scars, cuts, and abrasions covered my face and exposed flesh made me appear
00:37:42
almost ghoulish. But when directly looking at the mirror, I appeared as I normally did.
00:37:49
That's not okay. That's so scary, John. >> Imagine seeing yourself all [ __ ] up.
00:37:54
You just look in the mirror and you go, "That's a scary mask, bro." >> mask, bro.
00:37:58
Another fun imagery I began to see was violent outbursts, such as punching the reflection surface and breaking the
00:38:04
glass, even killed. Okay. You were killed. >> Another was smashing my face into the
00:38:15
mirror and then reveling in the blood and gore of my shredded flesh. And this is a vision
00:38:21
that he's getting? >> No, I think this is what he's seeing in like in >> Like he's seeing. out of the corner of
00:38:24
his eye, yeah, in the mirror. Like he looks directly in the mirror and he just sees himself, but if he gets himself out
00:38:29
of the corner of his eye, I think that's what happens. >> smashing his face into a glass. What the
00:38:34
[ __ ] And he said this would only happen for a moment before being whisked back
00:38:37
to my current state, confused and simply standing in front of a reflection. >> Holy [ __ ]
00:38:42
>> Always pain, torment, and violence, but never in reality, and always always the
00:38:47
face that haunts me from the reflection. Oh. Over the following weeks and the remainder of the time that I had
00:38:53
of that Sorry. I'm so freaked out by this. Over the following weeks and the remainder of
00:38:58
time that I and others occupied the premise with me, there were many instances of strange unusual behavior
00:39:04
occurring, even after John ultimately moved out to be with a cursed vahini worse than Buffy. Worse than Buffy. Oh
00:39:11
my god. >> Woah. That's pretty cursed. >> That's cursed. He He left me alone to battle whatever
00:39:16
demons I had inadvertently summoned. We eventually moved out, but this brings us
00:39:20
to the most important part of the story, confirmation. Two distinct moments I feel are why I
00:39:25
now have a passenger entity tied to my being. You better call Rachel Stavis. You better.
00:39:31
John and I went on many adventures together. One that followed the events described
00:39:36
was meeting a friend and mentor of his that was supposedly a mystic. Insert actual title here. I'm not sure what she
00:39:42
had was a mystic other than cryptically horrifying my ass. 10 out of 10 would be
00:39:47
horrified again. So he wanted me to meet her in the context to the types of magic and energy
00:39:53
that we studied, which was fine. No problems there. The problem was when walking into this
00:39:58
person's home, she stopped what she was doing, looked at me, and in an unusually
00:40:03
callous way pointed in my direction and asked, "Are you here to get rid of that?"
00:40:09
[ __ ] And she motioned to what was an empty space beside me. Or what you thought was empty. Are you here to get
00:40:15
rid of that? I'd be like, "I am now." >> Imagine if you're like, "No." No, I'm going to keep it. Thank you. Maybe don't
00:40:21
be rude. God. We're taking our [ __ ] elsewhere. >> Why isn't everyone welcome here? Come
00:40:26
on, Steve. Come on, Steve. So she proceeded to confirm visually what I saw in the mirror from the first
00:40:34
time I used it. Obviously I was perturbed without me telling her any specific details about it before, which
00:40:40
I took as a sign that she knew what she was doing, or she was the real deal. She
00:40:44
and I spoke at length following this, and she was even able to speak to events in my childhood that I never told
00:40:50
anybody about, including my wife and my family. Woah. To this day I cannot explain how a person I had never met
00:40:55
before was able to tell me about events in my life that I'd never spoken about out loud to any other human being, but I
00:41:01
trusted their judgment because of it. I would. I would, too. The second moment was honestly a bit
00:41:07
scarier because it came from someone I knew, and not the same woman that John could have slipped a 50 to to mess with
00:41:13
me beforehand. That's funny. Years later I was living with a bunch of friends, the standard two broke to live
00:41:19
on our own arrangement in a house of five. Been there. By this time I had a friend under my wing as a brother of
00:41:24
sorts, and John had Uh sorry. Let me say that again. I'm wearing fake eyelashes, so it's hard
00:41:30
to read. By this time I had taken a friend under my wing as a brother of sorts as John
00:41:35
had with me. Blue we'll call him, since I don't want to get him in trouble for this. That's a good friend. He was
00:41:39
experiencing with an uh experimenting with a substance like DMT. I mean, to each their own. It was a rough time.
00:41:47
Blue wasn't an addict, but he just hit a rough spot and tried something that he never tried again. Okay. It's not like
00:41:52
he was hooked on it like how Angel was hooked on rats and diving into piles of trash and becoming part one.
00:41:57
This is chef's kiss. I'm obsessed. I love rats. You're just melding our two worlds worlds together.
00:42:02
Anyway, the reason this is important is that Blue was not somebody who had ever known or been told the story about my
00:42:09
passenger entity. So there's no way that he could have known to say what he said.
00:42:13
While he was under the influence of this substance, I was walking by him as he sat on a couch. He stopped me and said,
00:42:19
"What is that?" Ooh. And I could tell from his tone and response that he was not excited about
00:42:25
what he was seeing. "What?" I asked, confused, as it was just he and I at home at that moment, and we didn't have
00:42:31
any pets. "That void with eyes, the white thing?" Ooh. Insert clip of my Oscar-winning performance of playing it
00:42:39
of playing it cool when every fiber of my being was screaming to flip out. What the If somebody said, "What is that?
00:42:46
That void with eyes, the white thing?" >> Yeah. I'd probably just start crying and never
00:42:53
stop. >> You know what the end of that Marcus video when he just takes to the sky? I
00:42:57
think I would just take to the sky. Yeah. You should You should say Nah. Like he does and then takes to the sky.
00:43:05
Nah. Nah. Uh so I asked him again, and he described a translucent white hazy creature resembling the shape of a
00:43:13
human, but specifically with red eyes following closely behind me and looking directly at him. No.
00:43:21
You got to No. You got to shower that [ __ ] off or something. >> to the sky. >> to shower with holy water.
00:43:27
I eventually told him the entire story once he sobered up. What he described he saw before, and I explained the story,
00:43:33
it shook me Wait, sorry. Jesus Christ. Uh I eventually told him the entire story once he sobered up. What he
00:43:40
described before I explained the story shook me to my core, though. He had seen what I had seen and described exactly
00:43:47
how I'd seen it without having any means to know what was pre what was seen previously. He didn't even know John or
00:43:54
the mystic. >> Oh. What's more is that as he described it, I could feel that same energy. When
00:44:00
he called it out as I once had before when I first was exposed to the mirror, as if my dark passenger was trying to
00:44:06
remind me it was there. >> Oh, [ __ ] that. You need one of those spray bottles of holy water.
00:44:12
Like a like a cat you're just like You just like it. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. You need to like blanche Devereaux it and be like
00:44:17
s- Yeah, honestly. Since then I still have an aversion to mirrors and my reflection. I don't like
00:44:22
seeing my reflection, nor do I like being in front of mirrors and reflective objects for extended periods of time,
00:44:28
either. Can't say I blame you. I have had others mention unusual energy in my presence. The mystic I spoke to
00:44:34
explained that if this was truly a malevolently malevolent being that it would have certainly acted on that by
00:44:40
now, and instead offered me an unusual explanation of it needs me, and our semi-symbiotic relationship must be
00:44:48
required for it to exist in our realm, and therefore it has no reason to hurt me. Oh. Well, it hasn't helped me,
00:44:55
either. Yeah, real nice. I didn't get cool powers. I wasn't sh- I wasn't shown such sights it wanted to show me.
00:45:03
>> Oh my god, you and I are meant to be friends. >> Yeah, 100%. >> Like truly. My unusual dreams of self
00:45:08
versus self have also changed over time, becoming less frequent, but now more vivid. When they happen now, it almost
00:45:14
feels more like a conversation between this being and I. Ooh. The void with eyes. Oh.
00:45:22
I love that. Wow, that's terrifying. >> That's so scary. >> Thank you for taking the time to
00:45:27
consider my tale. Thank you. >> Consider it considered. >> You and your wife forever. You and
00:45:31
Britney. And John. >> Chris and Britney and John and >> Chris, Britney, John >> and Blue. Blue.
00:45:36
>> Everybody. Yeah. And the void with eyes. Forever. Maybe not the void with eyes forever. I
00:45:41
hope you figure out a way to get rid of it. I appreciate the wonderful content you
00:45:45
lovely gals bring into the world. Thank you. I plan to keep it weird long into my elder years if my dark passenger
00:45:51
allows. I hope this brings at least a little bit of excitement into your lives, and if anyone ever tells you to
00:45:56
look into a cursed mirror, maybe don't. Take it away, Ash. Keep it weird, but not so weird that you
00:46:01
go into a locked room in a locked cabinet with a locked mirror, and you look into it even though John told you
00:46:05
not to, and then you get a dark passenger for the rest of your life unless maybe he decides to leave at some
00:46:09
point when you spritz yourself like Blanche Devereaux with holy water. Wow, that was a good one.
00:46:13
>> Thank you. I I really tried. >> I literally lifted this to look for the thing.
00:46:16
>> I was wondering what you were doing. >> "Where is it?" To look under my table.
00:46:19
>> To look under my table. You never know what you'll see under there. Such sights to show you under
00:46:23
there. All right. This one is called listener tale. A kinky ghost choked me in a haunted castle. Hot.
00:46:31
Let's go. Nicholas is ready. Yeah, Nicholas is came ready. He been ready. Dear Ash and Elena, please find attached
00:46:38
my double-spaced PDF for your reading pleasure. My praise and adoration for you are at the beginning of the story. I
00:46:43
have also attached some pictures of my gorgeous pup, Derek. Derek. is an iconic name for a dog.
00:46:49
>> dog name. I love it. Also attached is a picture of myself and younger sister.
00:46:52
She's in the story. I really hope to hear this on the podcast one day, and love you, ladies. All the best, Chelsea.
00:46:58
Here you are. On the pod. Welcome. There you go, foolish Chelsea. Welcome, foolish Chelsea.
00:47:06
>> There it is. Uh hi, uh Chelsea. Uh hello, Ash and Elena. Greetings from Scotland.
00:47:13
[ __ ] We want to go to there. My name is Chelsea. If I'm lucky enough to hear you read this on the podcast, I
00:47:20
will [ __ ] myself and pass away. Don't do that. >> Don't Wait, I'm looking into the future.
00:47:24
You didn't. You come back to life. >> There you go. You would also probably hear my name
00:47:28
again as there are some people I would seriously haunt. Feel free Please feel free to use my name and all the names
00:47:33
within the story. Firstly, I want to shower you with praise and adoration. Cool. Oh, stop it.
00:47:38
>> You're absolute goddesses. Um What does this say? Imaho de benevolent amazing
00:47:43
and beautiful souls. Thank you. I loved that. I recently moved to Scotland from uh from the northeast of England, and it
00:47:50
had not been an easy adjustment. I've many lonely days. Who would have believed making new friends at 32 would
00:47:55
be such a chore? >> Oh, yeah. It's hard. However, your podcast keeps me company when I walk my
00:47:59
pug. His name is Derek, and pictures are attached. Derek the pug. >> It makes it even better that he's a pug.
00:48:04
>> I love a pug named Derek. Or commute to my job as a teacher. Hell yeah, teacher.
00:48:09
Uh it is lonely here. However, when I walk my many miles a day, I listen to you and feel like I have two best
00:48:14
friends keeping me company. You do. Aw, here we are. You and your podcast really
00:48:18
make an impact, so thank you from the bottom of my heart. Also, I always dreamed of writing a book. However, the
00:48:23
confidence was never there. Listening to Elena has inspired me to start writing,
00:48:27
so thank you. >> That's awesome. >> than life. Write that book. You can do it. That's awesome. Let me know when you
00:48:33
have a tiny URL link. >> Yes, and we'll we'll scream it from the rooftops. I've rambled enough, so let's
00:48:37
get into the story. I recently listened to your episode about Chillingham Castle. That's a fun one. As I
00:48:43
mentioned, I'm from a small town in the northeast of England called Sunderland. Sunderland is about an hour and 20
00:48:48
minutes away from Chillingham Castle. It is two councils north. Well, that's a councils.
00:48:53
>> I like that, too. Uh growing up in the northeast England, we had a lot of access to castles and
00:48:58
took this for granted when we were 13 lying to our parents about where we were. In reality, we were breaking into
00:49:03
castles and Why is he here? He or she? Why is she here? Are you talking about me?
00:49:14
I work here. I like how he just assumed. Like you're talking about me. >> talking about me, Nicholas? That's what
00:49:19
it is. Um so uh let's see. Let's see. Into cat. So they were In reality, we were
00:49:25
breaking into castles and uh mental health facilities, exploring. Uh the fact that you just got to break into
00:49:32
castles and old institutions in your youth. I mean, you broke into institutions in your youth.
00:49:39
>> do that, but castles? >> Castles goes crazy. Castles? Like you're just like, "Oh, bye mom. Just going to
00:49:44
go ghost hunt in the castle." Unfortunately, the institution that you used to break into burned down by the
00:49:49
time I was cool enough to break into it, so. Yeah, it was pretty awesome. >> Yeah, I'm super jealous. Side note, if
00:49:54
you're interested, you can look into an asylum called Cherry Knoll. Ooh. Okay, I
00:49:58
feel like that's familiar. This was exactly a stone's throw away from my house, and my friends and I
00:50:03
spent many nights in that abandoned building. It was almost as if just up and left one day. Medicine bottles,
00:50:08
beds, etc. all left as they were. Ooh. It has since been demolished, but the history is very fascinating. I digress,
00:50:14
so back to the castle. Maybe we'll feature that on one of our episodes. A few years ago, my two best friends and I
00:50:19
did a legitimate historical tour of Chillingham Castle, trying to be all cultured and [ __ ] rather unlike the
00:50:25
weirdo teens sitting in an abandoned asylum trying to contact the dead. The tour is very much sold as a history tour
00:50:31
and not a ghost tour, but we were hopeful some spooky [ __ ] would happen, and they did tell us that the castle was
00:50:36
haunted, and ghost stories are part of the deal. It was in the middle of November, bollocks freezing, and a rainy
00:50:42
night. The tour started at 9:00 p.m., so it was pitch black, too. When we arrived, our tour guide was very quick
00:50:48
to tell us that there would not be actors running around or jumping out at us during the tour. I assume people show
00:50:53
up expecting some type of pantomime. We learned all about the history of the castle and the ghosts which frequented
00:50:59
the the different areas. Our guide was fantastic, and I can confidently say absolutely nothing happened. Ooh.
00:51:06
>> sightings or feelings. We drove home with our brains full of historical facts, however, slightly disappointed as
00:51:12
we really went for a ghost hunting. Upon returning home, I told my ma- my ma'am all about the visit. She had no
00:51:19
interest in history or ghosts, so I was surprised when she said she would like to visit the castle. She saw it as part
00:51:24
of a local concert culture she wanted to experience. A few weeks later, my ma'am,
00:51:28
my younger sister, who was 14 at the time, and I went for a night tour of the castle. What a cool family. I know,
00:51:33
that's so fun. This one got off to a more eventful start. On the drive up, I was telling my ma'am and my sister about
00:51:40
some of the ghost stories, so the atmosphere was set. When we arrived, I parked the car. It would help to know
00:51:45
the driveway which you park is only lit by lanterns and candlelight. That's gorgeous. Iconic.
00:51:51
>> I was getting ready to park the car when a lady knocked on the passenger side
00:51:55
window. She had platinum blonde hair, which somehow seemed to illuminate and glow in the pitch black.
00:52:00
>> Cuz she was a ghost. >> She was. >> a ghost host. >> My ma'am, who was sitting in the
00:52:04
passenger side seat, let out a scream and almost flew through the roof. The poor woman almost brought the castle
00:52:09
down screaming back. The four of us four of us ended up bent over double laughing, and my ma'am
00:52:15
profusely apologized, relived some of the ghost stories, and said she was I won't leave you, Nicholas.
00:52:21
>> Nicholas. Uh and she was said she was already spooked out. As we tried to calm
00:52:25
down and Brother? Brother? Are you calling us brother as in hell yeah brothers? >> brother.
00:52:31
>> Or is there a brother in the room? Or are you our brother from another mother?
00:52:37
>> Explain the brother. As we tried to calm down and regain our composure ready for the tour, the whole
00:52:43
atmosphere of the castle felt different. I put this down to the eventful start which had not happened previously. The
00:52:49
tour took the same route as previously, though the castle through the castle gardens, cemetery, basements, bedrooms,
00:52:55
living rooms, and finally the grand dining room. We were taught of the brutal history of the castle jailer,
00:53:01
John Sage, or as he was more commonly known, John Dragfoot Sage. This is important later. Sage was part of King
00:53:08
Edward the First's army and despised the Scottish people. I remember covering this. Yeah, what a douchebag this guy.
00:53:15
During a battle, his leg was injured, and he became known as Dragfoot. He was no longer able to battle, and so he
00:53:20
became the head jailer and torturer. Sage was a seriously pissed off at the world angry man, and has been quoted to
00:53:26
be the most evil ghost in history. >> I believe it. We were all instructed to take a seat around the dining room table
00:53:33
exactly as last time. There were around 10 people on our tour and 15 seats around the grand table.
00:53:38
Both my sister and ma'am were to the left of me, and there was no one sitting to the chair on my right. The chair to
00:53:43
my right was smack-bang in the middle of the table, and I was the last in our group to sit down. Everyone else was to
00:53:49
the left of me. The chairs were huge. I looked like I had been photoshopped sitting in them. Our guide told us all
00:53:54
about Sage and his treatment of the Scots and his desire to torture and kill as many people as possible. Our guide
00:54:00
was full history teacher flow when the gigantic chair to my right, which would have easily weighed 50 kilos, flew back
00:54:08
around 5 feet. >> Damn. >> made the most blood-curdling sounds as all four scraped along the wooden
00:54:15
ancient floor, and it seemed to create a loud bang as it came to a stop, although
00:54:19
it did not fall over. I was frozen in absolute horror, but could not take my eyes off the chair.
00:54:25
You could have heard a pin drop in that grand dining room. I was terrified. I questioned my sanity, and I truly
00:54:31
believe my soul left my body for a moment. >> Right. Trying to comprehend what I was
00:54:35
seeing, I turned back to face the group. Everyone was clearly having the same internal crisis I was experiencing.
00:54:42
Frozen faces full of horror, questioning eyes darting around the room, and color
00:54:46
drained from already pale British faces. Our guide eventually broke the silence after what seemed like an eternity. He
00:54:54
stated the chair, which was smack-bang in the middle of the grand table, was the preferred of Sage because he could
00:54:59
see the kitchen. I kind of like Sage's style here. I'm not sure how either. He asked us how
00:55:06
to take He asked us to take a seat on the grand dining chairs, but uh we all did as we were instructed. Suddenly, I
00:55:13
felt all oxygen leave my body as if someone had grabbed me by the throat. I'm sensing they did. The sound which
00:55:20
left my body was the most inhumane thing I have ever heard, still to this day. In
00:55:25
utter panic, I grabbed for ma'am's hand, and I am not ashamed. Uh strangely, my ma'am did not take my
00:55:32
hand. My ma'am is the ultimate mama bear, protective and extremely loving, and it was but it was clear that she
00:55:38
could not fathom what was going on. As quickly as the oxygen left my body, it returned. At the same time, the chair
00:55:45
swung backwards, replicating a rocking motion. However, it had four very stable legs.
00:55:52
Yeah. >> I do like you, Nicholas. I could not stop rubbing my hands over my throat and
00:55:57
wondering what the actual [ __ ] had just happened. I soon heard the voice of our
00:56:01
guide again stating he had seen this type of incident before, especially around the dining room and discussions
00:56:07
around Dragfoot Sage. Turns out Sage got his kicks from strangling people almost
00:56:12
to death and then finding alternative methods of torture. Have I really just been tortured by a
00:56:18
14th century ghost? Well, [ __ ] Rings a whole new meaning of choke me. Dazed, horrified, but also in a trauma
00:56:27
response way, I was feeling special. Is it me? Is it me? I stood up from the I Where am I? I
00:56:35
stood up from the chair without taking my eyes off of what was apparently Sage's chair. It is said that Sage
00:56:40
pulled his chair far out from the table to ensure his injured leg remained comfortable.
00:56:45
Everyone makes their their own mind up about that night. However, I truly feel that second experience at Chillingham
00:56:51
Castle was dark, sinister, and Sage was hanging around. I find it strange irony in fact that I now reside in Scotland
00:56:59
and have not had the best time. Was it some type of warning from Sage? No, Chelsea, stop it.
00:57:06
Safe to say I was silent for the rest of the tour, and the discussion on my way home was all about dissecting our
00:57:11
experience and agreeing a third visit was not necessary. He said we will not be going back there.
00:57:16
>> what we came for. I feel strongly you ladies would love to visit our small part of the world. Haunted castles,
00:57:21
fairy pools of Skye, and the thin areas of North- Northumberland and Scotland are the most
00:57:27
magical but haunted places places on Earth. I want to go so bad. Thank you for reading my story, and I
00:57:33
would love to hear your opinions about my experience. Thank you also for being my company and inspiring me to follow my
00:57:39
passions. I wish you all love and happiness in the world. Wow, and then Nicholas just called us
00:57:45
elderly. >> Wow, Nicholas. >> That's super rude. >> That was rude. >> Chelsea, that was a [ __ ] terrifying
00:57:51
but sick story. You were choked. You were choked by Sage. >> And not in the hot way.
00:57:56
>> Not in the hot way. I don't think Sage has that in him. No, he's not hot. >> Uh I don't think that at all, and I I do
00:58:01
that's horrifying. Imagine then it just the fact that the first time you went to
00:58:05
the castle, nothing happened. >> Yeah, that's interesting. It was like he remembered you, and he was like, "Well,
00:58:10
you came back, so." >> like, "You came back for more, so here I am." >> Here it is. And that he pulled his chair
00:58:15
like far away from the table to make sure his injured leg was comfortable. >> Yeah, that is crazy.
00:58:20
>> That was [ __ ] him. You got choked by a 14th century torturer. Nicholas says you shouldn't go back.
00:58:27
>> Yeah, don't come back. >> leave. >> He said no, you shouldn't do that again. >> might have told us to leave here, but
00:58:31
I'm under a table. >> I'm putting this below your table. Thank you. Here you go. All right. This one is
00:58:38
called that awkward moment when your friend gets possessed at Pennhurst. Uh-oh. That's pretty awkward.
00:58:43
>> So awkward. Ladies. >> Ladies. >> My name is Matt, and you can use my real name. Hi, Matt. Hi. This is the crazy
00:58:49
story of when my skeptical friend, who never believed in anything paranormal, ended up getting possessed at a
00:58:54
historically haunted location. Apologies, I know it's long, but I hope you like it.
00:58:58
>> Enjoy. Already. It was the start of 2012. I was a junior in college and unhealthily obsessed with ghosts,
00:59:04
aliens, and Bigfoot. Never unhealthy. That's not unhealthy at all. Let me just say that when I use the word possession,
00:59:10
I'm not talking about somebody getting thrashed around on a bed and shoving crucifixes up there, you know.
00:59:15
I guess spiritual attachment is a more accurate term to describe what happened to my friend Lawrence.
00:59:20
>> Okay. A once skeptical man whose life was forever changed when he accompanied
00:59:25
me on one of the most haunted places in America, Pennhurst State School and Hospital. I want to go there really bad.
00:59:31
>> we >> think I covered that, didn't I? Yeah, I think you did. >> Yeah. But first, if you don't know
00:59:35
Pennhurst, if you didn't listen to my [ __ ] episode Um hopefully you did cover it. I feel like you did.
00:59:41
It is dangerous. >> no. I don't think I did cover this. >> No, I think we talked about covering it.
00:59:46
So, we'll cover it. >> Yeah, I it's I shouldn't have yelled at you about not listening to my episode
00:59:50
cuz I didn't cover it. And Nicholas was like, "That place is dangerous." >> It does sound dangerous. So, but first,
00:59:55
if you don't know Pennhurst, here's a recap. Its history is so disgusting. >> Yeah. This was a school and a hospital
01:00:00
for quote-unquote sick children. But back then, what did sick mean? Anything. You thought if if you thought maybe your
01:00:07
kid had Down syndrome, you sent them to Pennhurst. If you thought they had OCD, you sent them to Pennhurst. Your kid was
01:00:13
in a wheelchair, you sent them to Pennhurst. There were too many patients and hardly enough staff. Rooms that
01:00:18
could fit only 10 or 20 people would be filled with like 100 or more patients, tied to their beds for days on end,
01:00:25
going to the bathroom on their own sheets without medical care. And if you got in trouble, punishment was tooth
01:00:31
removal. We have not covered that. >> No. Wow. No, we have not. >> That's horrible. My life was changed
01:00:40
forever when my friend John, who used to work at Westchester University radio and
01:00:44
happened to know the right night watchman of the school, called me one afternoon and said he was able to
01:00:49
arrange a private ghost hunt for us and our friends. >> Okay, that's sick. It was the happiest
01:00:55
news of my life. >> Yeah, honestly, I get it. >> Mark had also previously gone to
01:00:58
Pennhurst on his own ghost hunt where endless creepy stuff happened. Oh, I'm sure. The scariest story he told me was
01:01:04
when the watchman was looking up locking up a door on one of the catwalks, he heard a noise, turned around, and saw
01:01:09
someone in a hospital gown marching toward him. >> Oh. And then they jumped off the
01:01:15
catwalk. >> Oh. Off the catwalk. I had to. Damn. When the watchman ran over to look over the bridge, there was
01:01:24
no one there. They were too sexy. They were too sexy. >> They are too sexy for this hospital.
01:01:31
So, Mark picked me up with a couple other friends and we amassed at his house. The plan
01:01:37
was that after the ghost hunt, people would sleep over at my house if they were too afraid to go home. That's so
01:01:42
hostly of you. >> That is very hostly of you. >> Oh, ghost host. We arrived at Pennhurst just after dark
01:01:48
and holy [ __ ] it was huge. Otherworldly, innocent, yet sinister. The quiet was what unsettled me the most
01:01:55
when we pulled up. I couldn't even hear animals or cars and it was as if the wind had stopped the instant we got
01:02:01
there. Before the possession, a lot of weird unexplainable things happened throughout
01:02:06
the night that made my skeptic friends almost crap themselves. Here's a list. In the hospital, I heard a man groan
01:02:12
behind me as we were walking down a hallway. Don't groan behind me. Don't do that.
01:02:16
>> Don't do that. Under one of the tunnels, the K2 meter went berserk and it started
01:02:20
giving us intelligent responses. In addition, we asked the spirits to light up the meter and we would instantly hear
01:02:27
loud bangs just a few yards from us. Oh. We went into one room where all the women, just the women, started feeling
01:02:33
severe pain just above their pubic region. >> god. One of the women, my friend Katie,
01:02:39
suddenly groaned and grabbed above that region. And at the exact moment she did,
01:02:44
one of our walkie-talkies started going crazy and gave off static. >> Holy [ __ ]
01:02:49
>> That's so [ __ ] up. [ __ ] I would leave at that moment. >> Yeah. The night took a huge turn,
01:02:55
however, when we entered Quaker Hall, a claustrophobic room famous for exhibiting the most violent paranormal
01:03:01
activity. When we were warned to never make provocations out or sorry, we were warned to never make provocations out
01:03:08
loud. This part of the location had the most abysmal history. It is said that many
01:03:14
many patients were trigger warning sexually assaulted and punished most severely in Quaker Hall.
01:03:20
We entered the room and stood around in a semicircle. I started asking questions
01:03:24
to the spirit and it had been just a minute when suddenly, "We need to leave." said Lawrence out of nowhere.
01:03:31
"What?" I asked. "We have to go. We have to go now." His face was paler than Edward Cullen.
01:03:42
When I skipped to this, I saw Edward Cullen and I said we will be doing that, so everybody get your voices ready. We
01:03:46
harmonize. Back to the story. >> Good job, everybody. "Buddy, what is it?" >> Serious. Good good job, everybody. All
01:03:53
right, back to the story. "Buddy, what is it?" asked my other friend Nick. "Something's grabbing my
01:03:58
heart and I'm having trouble breathing." >> Oh [ __ ] "Lawrence, it's okay. I think
01:04:02
you're just freaked out." "No, I'm not." he interrupted me and started walking to
01:04:05
the exit. "I can hear something in my head. Someone's talking in my head. Please, let's go."
01:04:10
>> Oh my god. I would [ __ ] my pants. >> hearing something I'm hearing something
01:04:15
in my head, something's talking in my head. Oh god. I would cry. >> me up. >> and cry and cry.
01:04:21
The rest of us looked at one another. What the hell? >> What? >> You would dry heave. I would dry heave.
01:04:26
No, I would be doing a lot more than dry heaving. I would wet heave. That's the new term for throwing up.
01:04:31
>> All the kids would say in it. So, what the hell was going on? Something was grabbing at his heart.
01:04:37
Something was in his head. I stared at Lawrence and his head was beginning to rock back and forth. His hands were out
01:04:43
of his pockets and his eyes were glued to the floor. Something wasn't right and for his safety alone, we needed to
01:04:49
leave. >> Yeah. The night went on and Lawrence wasn't getting better. We left Quaker
01:04:53
Hall the worst of the worst. Why was Lawrence still behaving like this? The night was coming to a very strange close
01:04:58
and soon we arrived back at our cars. We thanked the watchman 100 times for allowing us to investigate for free. It
01:05:04
was midnight or so and as we were talking to him, I noticed Lawrence wasn't with us. I turned around and
01:05:10
there he was in the backseat of my friend Chase's car, hood up and just staring blankly at the ground.
01:05:16
His body was there, but his mind was some place else at some place else. "Dude." I nudged Nick and pointed at the
01:05:22
car. "I don't know what to do." he said and chortled a little trying to break the worry on our faces.
01:05:28
"Okay, let's just get out of here. Let's go home." I said. A group of us in court including
01:05:33
Lawrence drove back to my house to sleep. We got to the living room and started setting up our sleeping bags.
01:05:38
Lawrence still looked so uncomfortable. After rolling out his sleeping bag, he sat right on my couch and just continued
01:05:44
to stare straight forward, mouth agape, eyes wide, not saying a word, completely
01:05:49
lost and scared looking. "So." I stammered trying to break the ice. "What the [ __ ] do I do?
01:05:57
What a night, am I right? How do I wake up Lawrence? Should I slap him? Should I
01:06:00
put a funny YouTube video on that I know he'll laugh at?" Valid. No one answered.
01:06:04
We just stared at our friend. I went upstairs to get more pillows and make Nick come made Nick come with me. We go
01:06:11
to my We got to my room. "Nick." I whispered because my parents were asleep in the next room. "I'm actually freaking
01:06:16
the [ __ ] out. I don't know what to do. And if he brings any ghost into my house, so help me god." Bang.
01:06:22
The back up the back door of my house slammed shut. >> Oh, [ __ ] that. >> Nick and I sprinted down the stairs.
01:06:27
Chase was standing just outside the door. "What the hell happened?" I asked him. "Matt, he just should he just stood
01:06:33
up and yelled, 'I need to get out.' and then slammed the door." My heart was palpitating. The three of
01:06:38
us walked outside. Lawrence was walking around in circles in front of my shed. His right hand raised silently over his
01:06:46
head. Oh. His finger was bent but pointing. What the hell was he doing? "Lawrence?" I
01:06:54
asked suspiciously. "Hey, what are you doing? Come on, you got to talk to us." Hey, buddy. Hey, it's cool.
01:07:01
>> "There's a voice in my head. I can't get this voice out of my head and I'm freaking out. God." Oh.
01:07:06
>> He screamed and walked back to the steps. Oh, I'm so stressed for him. >> I'm so stressed for him. This poor kid.
01:07:12
This reminds me of Talk to Me. >> Yeah, like I'm like, "Stop." Nick, Chase, and I backed up fearful that
01:07:17
Lawrence was going to clock us or something. He put his arm on the tip of the railing and collapsed his head on
01:07:22
top. Something had followed Lawrence from Quaker Hill. That much was clear. "I can't make the voice stop. I can't
01:07:28
make the voice stop." >> so stressful. moaning in frustration. I needed to do something.
01:07:34
"Lawrence, do you want me to speak to the voice?" Pause. >> That's a good friend. I know, you're the
01:07:39
best friend ever. >> friend. "Lawrence, let me talk to the voice." "No." he interjected. "No, that
01:07:44
won't" he kept stammering. "Let me just go in." He hopped up the steps and went back
01:07:49
into the house. Holy [ __ ] Nick, Chase, and I stared at one another in more than
01:07:54
disbelief. I was willing to drop Lawrence off at a Holiday Inn and look for an exorcist in the yellow pages.
01:07:59
There was a historic Presbyterian church near my house. Did they have any exorcist? I mean, these are all very
01:08:05
real questions. >> what? Desperate times call for desperate >> are the questions.
01:08:08
>> desperate measures. Does every church have exorcist? What do I do? My parents
01:08:13
were also upstairs. Could the spirit leave Lawrence and possess one of them? Um my hand's shaking. I think he just
01:08:19
needs to sleep. Let's just let him sleep. He'll be fine tomorrow. Honestly, I'd probably do the same. We're like,
01:08:23
"Yeah, I don't know. Sleep it off. It's like being drunk." Go to bed. We walked back to the living room. Right there,
01:08:28
sitting up in his sleeping bag, was Lawrence, hood down, texting on his phone. "Hey, guys." he said, totally
01:08:34
normally. "Lawrence?" said Chase. "Are you okay?" You good, bro? "Yeah, I'm fine."
01:08:41
"Are you sure?" "Oh, yeah." he said still texting on his phone. "Matt, there was something bad in your
01:08:46
shed, so I came back in." "I'm sorry, what?" I asked, taken aback. "Yeah, there was something bad in your
01:08:51
shed. Good night." He said, put his phone down, and got under his sleeping bag. Lawrence confessed to us later that when
01:08:59
he was in his living room or in when he was in my living room, he was texting himself what the voice was telling him
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in his head. He then immediately deleted it because he wanted to study abroad in
01:09:08
Florence and wanted to forget about this incident. "I'm sorry, what?" He's like, "Sorry, I can't bring this to
01:09:15
Florence." >> Sorry, Florence will not allow this kind of behavior. Florence will say, "Get the
01:09:19
[ __ ] out of here." if I, you know, remember this experience. He was fearful that the spirits would
01:09:25
follow him internationally. Wow. Whatever happened to him was very real and very scarring.
01:09:30
>> to know what was in the shed. Yeah, I'm like what did he put the thing in the
01:09:34
shed? >> just put it in the shed and be like, "Cool, it's gone." Maybe. To this day, if I bring up Penhurst to
01:09:39
Lawrence, he won't say anything. He doesn't crack a joke. Sometimes he just leaves the room or politely asks us to
01:09:45
change the subject. I have not been back to Penhurst since and I doubt any of my
01:09:49
friends want to return, either. It's not your typical answer when somebody asks,
01:09:52
"What happened to you in college?" and you say, "Oh, yeah, my friend just got possessed."
01:09:56
I mean, it's not your typical answer when somebody asks you, "What happened in college?" and you say, "Oh, yeah, my
01:10:01
friend just got possessed." Damn, Matt. Matt, that was crazy. That's a scary one.
01:10:07
>> You should never go in your shed again, I feel. >> I don't think you should you should
01:10:10
light that shed on fire. Yeah, light it a blaze. >> Do it. Commit arson. >> It's fine. Why not? What's-her-face got
01:10:16
away with it. Pen- Penhurst is terrifying. >> Yeah, I don't want to go to there.
01:10:20
>> The energy there must be wild. I do want to go to there, but I would be scared,
01:10:24
too. [ __ ] This [ __ ] really just said, "I do want to go there." >> I do want to go there. I want to like do
01:10:29
a ghost hunt there. I don't know if I want to get something in my head. Yeah, I don't want that,
01:10:33
either. >> There's already a lot going on up there. So, maybe there's no room. And right
01:10:36
now, I'm just a head, so. >> You are just a head. That's all you got. >> a head.
01:10:41
He is touching you. Wow, what a way to end that with Nicholas saying, >> "He is touching you." Damn, Nicholas.
01:10:48
>> Don't touch me. I'm under people, anyway. >> always just lawless. He's just the most
01:10:54
reckless [ __ ] lately. He is. >> What are you doing, bud? >> Nicholas, what's going on? I didn't know
01:11:00
we were taking our relationship to this level. I'm going to tell John. I'm telling John on you. I'm telling
01:11:04
John on you, Nicholas. Guys, those were great tales. >> They were so scary. I'm freaking out
01:11:09
right now. >> scary. Guys, I hope you guys have the best Halloween Be safe. Samhain ever. Be
01:11:15
safe. Don't talk to strangers. Check your kids' candy. And Dress up as whatever you want.
01:11:20
>> Yeah, dress up as a [ __ ] table. Do it. >> Live your life. We almost forgot to
01:11:25
mention we're going to have our very own Morbid Tarot cards that you guys can order. So exciting. I'm so [ __ ]
01:11:33
excited. We partnered with this sick-ass artist. She is so talented. Um Marissa Aragon Ware. She's so cool. Um they're
01:11:42
going to be They're like made-to-order cards. There's only a limited amount of them. They're going to be available for
01:11:47
a limited time. I think they're going to go live at midnight on Halloween and they can you can buy them up until
01:11:54
December 21st. Again, they're limited run. When they're done, they're done. Uh super excited because it ends on the
01:11:59
winter solstice, which is like witchy. From Halloween to the winter solstice. >> And they're only available at
01:12:06
morbidtarot.com. >> Yes, and they're going to have like little Easter eggs, like fun little
01:12:10
morbid Easter eggs in them. >> Little quotes, maybe. >> Gold and silver foil accents. They're
01:12:15
like beautiful. So, yes, go to morbidtarot.com on midnight on Halloween and again,
01:12:23
these are made-to-order and we're actually going to reveal the first five major arcana cards at launch.
01:12:29
>> Yes. So, keep your eyes peeled and then we'll gradually reveal the rest of the
01:12:33
deck, like, you know, throughout the ordering window. >> Yeah, exactly. So, keep checking in cuz
01:12:37
more will be let out, but we're very excited about this. It's going to be really fun.
01:12:41
>> Yeah, we've been having such a blast working with Relatable on this >> They're amazing. Maybe there will be
01:12:45
more cool things in the future. Maybe there will cuz we love them. So, >> Nicholas is mad about it, but Nicholas
01:12:53
said it's mad sick, like a New Yorker. Yeah. So, guys, go order those. Keep listening to the pods and have a happy
01:13:00
Halloween. >> Happy Halloween. We hope you keep listening. >> And we hope you keep weird.
01:13:06
>> But not so weird that you don't order our [ __ ] tarot deck. Do it. Love you.
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