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The Bermondsey Horror | Morbid: A True Crime Podcast

January 05, 2023 / 01:06:49

This episode covers the Burmanzi Horror, featuring the story of Marie Daru and her tumultuous relationships with Patrick O'Connor and Frederick Manning. The hosts, Ash and Elena, discuss the events leading to the murder of O'Connor and the subsequent trial of Marie and Frederick.

Marie Daru, born in 1821 in Switzerland, became a domestic servant in London after the death of her parents. She worked for Lady Blunt and became enamored with the luxurious lifestyle. During a trip to France, she met Patrick O'Connor, a customs collector with a shady side hustle, and they fell in love.

After returning to London, Marie also began seeing Frederick Manning, a railway guard suspected of robbery. Frederick proposed, and Marie accepted, but their marriage quickly deteriorated due to his alcoholism and financial troubles. Meanwhile, Patrick re-entered her life, leading to a love affair.

In a shocking turn, Marie and Frederick murdered Patrick in their home, burying him under their kitchen floor. The police investigation quickly led to their capture, and they were tried for murder. The episode details the sensational trial and public execution of the couple.

The episode concludes with reflections on the societal implications of their crimes and the public's fascination with the case, highlighting the historical context of crime and punishment in 19th-century England.

TLDR

Marie Daru and Frederick Manning murder Patrick O'Connor, leading to a sensational trial and execution in 19th-century England.

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right into it today um I have an old-timey murder what I know this one old timey I'm saying it's
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new it's exciting for me but this one is called the burmanzi horror that is what
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it is known by horror horror did it sound like yeah that's not what I said horror sorry I don't know if it's
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like my the way I talk or something that it probably came out that way no it's hard I feel like we've said that before
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on screen like yeah like we're gonna have a horror discussion horror horror you know ours are really hard for people
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from Massachusetts so like just bear with us yeah we don't do well with us what's an ah kid what's an R anyway but
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let's talk about it okay this is from the 1800s we're gonna talk about a woman named Marie deroux isn't that a name
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that's a pretty name Marie daru uh she was born in 1821 in Switzerland actually uh we don't know a ton about her because
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it was 1821 um and you know there was not a lot going on apparently with her so she just
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kind of floated through she was just vibing unfortunately when she was a teenager both her parents passed away oh
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yeah I don't know how because again not a lot of information to do it she ended up though who knows really oh but yeah I
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was joking I was gonna say perhaps but she moved to London after this because she was like you know what I wanna I
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wanna get out of here I gotta start my life so she became what was known as a domestic servant so she became a maid of
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sorts to a woman named lady Polk okay and this was in a house that was referred to as Halden house and it was
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an Exeter oh Exeter Devin it's hard to understand how the counties and like places work in England because it's
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different from over here I'm lost so hopefully you guys know what that is I'm assuming if you're over there you're
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like yes or no no and I'm sorry if you're like no that's not how that works but I'm trying so
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she had a great time there she was really good at her job she liked it because she got to be involved in all
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like the luxurious ways of living even if it was on the fringes of it she got to experience it she became obsessed oh
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yeah living that lifestyle even though she was you know not making a ton of money herself she was able to live in
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the house she got the you know she got the experiences and so she was like I want to live this life I don't ever want
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to live in poverty that's my goal okay I mean that's a that's a fair goal to Great goal I guess so in 1846 she was
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around 23 years old this is she'd been working for a while she had gotten really good at it word had spread that
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she was really you know because they talk oh yeah these ladies of the households they talk high society and
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all that yeah so word got around that she was really good at her job she was also looking to kind of move on so she
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moved on to work at another home for somebody else she now worked for lady blanteer now lady blunt here was
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actually the lady of Stafford house and this was one of the most prestigious and
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extravagant homes in London at the time okay like and these are just like houses
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like Estates that's wild like yeah just nuts and these were I mean they were described as like you know covered in
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marble and Golds and just like yeah the most extravagant and luxurious thing ever I love it now this particular move
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for her was a huge jump up in society this was like a giant move it was not lateral this was a very much a promotion
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um she was still going to be you know a domestic servant in the home but she was
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at the home that was now run by the daughter of a duchess which was a [ __ ] big deal I've been watching Bridgerton I
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know what that means you know what that is so she had the [ __ ] Queen of England coming over for tea at that
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house damn like that's how big a deal this place was I mean she's a duchess she's a duchess she's a daughter of a
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duchess so she she loved it Marie treated she loved it she loved even just being attached to this kind of rich and
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luxurious lifestyle she would meet all these Royals and dignitaries and she started believing I'm part of this
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Society she was obsessed with it and becoming more and more obsessed with it they gave her dresses to wear for
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certain events because like she wanted all of her people all of her staff presentable so she would get these fancy
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dresses she got to go on fancy trips with her it was honestly like a really it was a it was a great job to Marie and
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I feel like it just wasn't enough for Marie it never is I'm getting that feeling you're getting that feeling it
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never is so in 1846 she went that's when she went over to work for lady blend here that same year she actually
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accompanied lady blunt here on a boat trip to France oh this was going to be like a big trip she was asked to be the
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maid on this trip because she was that good at her job and also because she spoke French oh so she was gonna help
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yeah so she's gonna be a big help on this trip she was super excited that she was chosen so they're on the boat on the
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way there obviously it's a Long Boat Trip anywhere back then you were just like you were in for the Long Haul so
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she's on the boat and she strikes up a conversation with a man oh a handsome man another passenger a man named
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Patrick O'Connor Irish Irish how did you how could you tell um he tells Marie that he is hailing
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from County Tipperary in Ireland and girl she was smitten oh hell yeah he's an Irishman also he was smitten they were
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both smitten okay that accent come on I mean come on undeniable now they chatted
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the entire way over and they soon she found out that he was a customs duty collector at the London docks but he was
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also making extra money as a Smuggler or a money lender of sorts which is like a
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little shady business but he was extraordinarily wealthy because of it he was 50 years old which makes him
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quite a bit older than her because she was 23 which was like such a thing back then but like all fine whatever you want
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to do and again he was super wealthy which was very attractive super wealthy super hot has an accent what's wrong
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with what else can you ask for and they just couldn't tear themselves away from each other during this boat trip they
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just were talking talking talking by the end of the boat trip they had made plans
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to meet up again with each other when they both arrived back in London and remember like this was gonna be a while
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because like they're both going to France for different reasons they're both going to be coming back at
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different times boat trips are long yeah there was no cell phones to just text each other and be like hey I'm back in
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London what's up imagine the excitement though like the whole time she was in France like oh when I get back to London
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see Patrick like so cute yeah Patrick just reminds me of shit's creek now right like
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Patrick is like where it's at yeah so and he looks so Irish that's all I'm pictures there you go now they had
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dinner and when they got back to London they were able to meet up and it was a long time like it was a long time before
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they could meet up so like I'm sure it was like the excitement was just everywhere so they had their dinner and
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it was right back it was right back full-blown romance but it was tricky though because remember like I just said
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it had been a while between the France trip they had gotten back at different times and between that like that whole
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interim time she had started seeing someone else she's playing the field I respect it no
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because there was there was like months in between yeah so while she's waiting you know she's not technically you know
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dating anymore and she's not like engaged yet or anything she's just seeing a man named
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Frederick Manning okay foreign [Music] it was a night like any other we ate some dinner we chatted for a bit about
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railway at the time but he was also someone who had some like shady business as well because she loved a shady fella
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she loved a shady fellow I feel back then that there was a lot of shady fellows so it's like really if you could
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like throw a rock and hit like 10. yeah uh but he was a suspected robber oh okay
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so he he had like a legitimate job and then also people were like I'm pretty sure he robs places
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he he also has a side hustle it's just not really respectable not a great side hustle he was suspected of robbing um a
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train that he was was actually on his Railway convenience so sure I get it thanks for that I was
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gonna help you out no so while he's like you know possibly a robber on the railway that he also works on
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um he's telling Marie you know what I have an inheritance that's about to hit no you're saying you know my father
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died in 1845 which was the year before and he said his mother was kind of given everything in his will but his mother
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was going to be transferring ownership of a huge property to him sure and he was like I promise this
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we're just going through the whole motion no you're not you know it's all gonna happen it's all happening Sheena
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Shea let's go you know so she's like wow that's great you're right I mean you're
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robbing places so you're getting money that's fun always good because Marie's just all she's concerned about it so
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much she's that's what she's looking for I don't care where you got it you have it and you know what at this point she's
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dating these two men they both have their Pros they both have their cons at this point and both have money and both
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have jobs to boot so it's like what you know what you're living um both were also kind of shady but you
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know well it's only a few like I think it was only like a couple of weeks and then Frederick proposes
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because I mean it's 18. oh that's true everybody's just like hey you you're cute you want to get married like it's
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literally just like hey cool we've gone out once I was like actually thinking that watching virgin the other day
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because they like dance a couple times and then they're like would you wed My Life Would You wedge my life
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I really wish that too but then it's just like and then you spend eternity together because you're not even allowed
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to get divorced that's why most of them hated each other because they didn't know each other to begin with and then
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they would suddenly be living with each other and be like wow you're insufferable like imagine you go on one
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date with someone you're like well we're betrothed imagine one dance and then it's like well that's that that sucks no
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thank you what a life so Frederick proposes so Marie is like cool um hold on a sec and then she's like hey
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Patrick Scott just proposed over here and Patrick's like wait a [ __ ] second I was gonna propose like that [ __ ]
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proposed before me excuse me so Patrick is like wed me so he proposes Patrick is
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a pick me guy so she's she's gotta choose yeah and she's like we got pros we got pecans here we got this guy who
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is like older and Wealthy but he's obviously wealthy due to Shady dealings he's got a job though but they're both
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Shady we got this younger guy I think this guy I think Frederick was only like a year within a year of her like
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age-wise sure so he's like got this guy that's more my age he's gonna last long he's got a job he's still doing some
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shady things but he's got that [ __ ] inheritance coming right that's what she was looking for she was like inheritance
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she loves it so she chose Frederick she said yes to Frederick which I immediately was like wrong choice yeah I
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hadn't even read this full thing yet this whole case and as soon as I read that she chose Frederick I was like oh
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no yeah I got like a wave of disappointment even though I don't know what's gonna happen yeah I just you
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always pick Patrick when faced with a Patrick you always pick you picked Patrick O'Connor yeah you pick him why
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wouldn't you but she did and here's the thing that's like yeah sure he's got this inheritance coming it's coming like
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you don't know if it's is it gonna arrive is it gonna get lost in the mail does it exist he's steady income he's
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got it locked and loaded exactly and you guys fell in love in like a really cute
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way and it was like Kismet you know yeah it was a meet cute so I don't know better story unfortunately she and
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Frederick were married May 27 1847 they got married at St James Church in Piccadilly London oh do you remember the
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Piccadilly Pub I hated that place oh what the [ __ ] is wrong with you I loved the Piccadilly bum the Piccadilly
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Pub I like I used to request to go there yeah I never liked any of the food there
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or The Vibes I mean I'm trash so like I hated the food and the Vibes there oh I loved the vibe you got a cute little cup
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to drink your meal out of and like to drink your meal out of it no I mean why I didn't like it yeah no no they didn't
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give you your meal in a cup see why I did not like their menus had fun games yeah I don't I was never I was never
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into the Piccadilly Pub I don't know what it was so if you have you have a taste for the Finer Things in life Marie
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apparently just call me no don't call me Maria no trust me it's an insult no they get
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married Yay good for them yeah Frederick then immediately quits his job oh he quit his job as a guard on the
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railway what and he quit his job and it was like not a good like hey I'm putting
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in my two weeks notice kind of thing it was like a bad I think there was like the rumors got around that he was like
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he was the robber and it was like it was a bad split between him and his job does
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he think that Marie is gonna support him on her income well then he did get a new
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job he got a new job as a manager of the white heart Pub in Taunton not Taunton in Massachusetts yeah yeah
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um but Marie you know she was like okay cool now at this time as well Marie found out that the inheritance thing was
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[ __ ] shocking yeah I know he's so surprised I know I know we're all like what what a plot twist oh my goodness no
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one saw that coming yeah it was [ __ ] it was never gonna come it was never coming he just trapped her he totally
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bullshitted her no he also was drinking heavily oh she did not realize loser she
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did not realize that she was marrying a full blown alcoholic who is now running a pub and was running it into the ground
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because he was just drinking all of the profits away oh my and it was also apparently he was also like flirting
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with all the ladies at the pub it was just like a bad situation she chose badly but it was a bad choice this is a
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predicament with a capital P it really is so they're trying to make it work she's trying to be like okay I made this
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decision I gotta go with it so they end up moving away from Taunton area and they move to uh burmansey in London and
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they found a home at three Miniver place but and they were renting this home now
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but the marriage is not getting better no they're moving away from the pub they're trying to do everything but it's
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not getting better Frederick is still a full-blown alcoholic and like not a nice
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Drinker like he's just a he's a dick not a happy no he's still drinking super heavily they
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weren't managing the money the The Inheritance isn't coming so they're struggling now it's just bad and she
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must have been like you lied to me you lied to me like this whole thing began on a lot this is all a sham this whole
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thing began with two very dishonest and very not like the way they went into this
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marriage was not like love and companionship it was like money yeah on both ends right so it was just bad so
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then Patrick comes back into the picture okay and Patrick wrote her because they
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started communicating again and Patrick wrote her a letter and said he always loved her he always would and he wished
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it was him who she had chose I bet she wished that too so a torrid love affair began because of course that's gonna
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draw her in she's very unhappy in her marriage it's happening and you know I feel like in the 1800s it
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was just like toward love affairs everywhere yeah because like you couldn't get unmarried no so you just
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kept having toward love affairs right it was just like the way of the world now Frederick knew these two were friends
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still like they had not broken off contact even when Frederick and her had gotten married like he knew about this
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in fact Patrick would come and have dinner with them often like the three of them would have dinner awkward we still
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don't know if there was like if he knew that there was a sexual aspect to this affair going on or if he was ignoring it
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or if he was completely clueless and just thought that they were still friends no matter what it was a very
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strange and complex situation for sure very much so and there's like rumors that later come down the line that I'll
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talk about that are like wild no spicy yeah yeah very spicy no in July 1849 Marie orders out of nowhere and receives
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delivery of there's like record of this at her home a massive amount of lime oh that's not good this is like a random
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delivery no it's not now remember this is a preparation yeah this is no good and remember this is what 1849 this is
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only a couple years after marriage now August 8th 1949 so the following month Marie orders and receives at her home a
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giant shovel bye Frederick thank you see you later now they so then Marie and apparently Frederick used this
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shovel to dig a giant hole in their kitchen floor wait Marie and Frederick yep what are they doing they better not be
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coming what do they do they better not be coming from Patrick no they dug this hole and people who came to the home
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like saw this at one point and were like what's that about and they're like oh we're just like rearranging the
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flagstone on the on the kitchen floor so we had to dig to like you know kind of uh make it more structurally sound
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because one of them was wobbly six feet down you know so they put the flagstone back on top of this hole and like
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everybody was like all right cool I guess that's what that is now that same day August 8th 1949 Patrick O'Connor
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received an invitation from Marie to have dinner at the Manning home not for both her and Frederick he went just like
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he always would just like he always would he would never have any reason to think anything different but he
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unexpectedly brought a friend with him he brought a friend named Pierce Walsh who he called walshie
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um while she had helped Patrick get payment from a loan recently like a big payout and the two of them were in a
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celebratory mood so they were like let's hang together all right cool so they so
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he brought him along they had a normal meal everything was fine when they left Marine Frederick were pissed because
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they wanted Patrick to come by themselves I wonder why why did they want Patrick to come alone well they
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have lime and us or well I always saying lime they have lye and they have a six foot hole in their kitchen before and I
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feel like it's because they want Patrick for his money I don't know so Marie decides to use her Wilds
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she got Patrick alone for a moment during this dinner she like brings him aside and she tells him you know I was
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really looking forward to an evening with just you coming and she says you know but you brought your friend that
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really like put me off I'm like very upset about it and he was very apologetic oh and he offered to come the
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next night alone so he was like then we can have an evening together and he's like I'm sorry like I didn't I was just
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celebrating I was excited Patrick don't be sorry yeah so the next evening no he's coming to dinner again but this
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time he's coming by himself don't so he comes everything's normal like they normally do but when it comes time to
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eat dinner Marie tells Patrick you have to go wash your hands you've been at the
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dock all day go wash your hands for dinner and he's like all right so Patrick is of course down to be clean
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for Marie so he goes to the sink he's washing up he's finishing you know that second time singing happy birthday when
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you're supposed to really get those germs off I'm sure um because back then we'll talk about it
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things were so sanitary so I'm sure he was definitely washing his hands for that long yeah he's definitely getting
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the finger pit yeah for sure um that's a heavy dose of sarcasm in case you couldn't tell but as he's doing
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this Marie creeps up behind his ass no and literally shoots him in the back of the head with a revolver oh my God this
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is a man that she once loved yes I don't think she knows what love is no she does
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not execution at Point Blank Range to the back of that it's insane he fell to the floor and just started convulsing he
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did not die oh so Frederick comes in with a crowbar and beats the hell out of him until he was dead
00:26:40
he hit him at least 17 times in the head with a crowbar oh my God yeah they then
00:26:46
threw his body into that hole they dug into the middle of their [ __ ] kitchen floor and covered it with lime they
00:26:53
purchased then they buried Patrick and they put the flagstone just right back over it and sealed it off and they're
00:27:01
just gonna like walk throughout their kitchen day to day oh yeah and after that they sat and had whiskey together
00:27:06
in the kitchen what the [ __ ] yep that's the thing when I was reading this I did
00:27:11
not see it coming that Patrick was the one that was going to go down I thought Patrick and her were going to kill
00:27:16
Frederick that's what I thought what I was gonna say whoa so yeah so the next day Marie went to
00:27:22
where Patrick O'Connor had been living and she convinced his landlady to give her the keys to his place what she had
00:27:29
been there before because of fair of course and this landlady was said to despise her oh but she allowed it
00:27:35
anyways because she was like I guess like Patrick says it's fine and she went through everything in Patrick's home she
00:27:41
found money jewelry Railway shares that Patrick owned and she stole it all oh my
00:27:46
God she was so cold oh and she was so money hungry that she actually went back the next day to make sure she didn't
00:27:52
miss anything to steal this is like not a human being this is a full-blown monster and the plan was going to be for
00:27:59
Frederick to go sell those shares under Patrick's name and collect the wealth before anything questioned anybody
00:28:06
and you don't think that nobody's gonna question you and all of a sudden you go from living like like you do like such a
00:28:12
big class joke yeah like nobody's gonna notice that and people love Patrick he has friends and like clients and he has
00:28:20
like people who know him yeah he's not just some random guy that nobody's gonna give a [ __ ] hell he showed up the day
00:28:26
before with his friend she's gonna wonder where he is and they had just settled a big deal so that's telling
00:28:31
exactly well it was pretty immediately after they killed him that people started searching for Patrick like
00:28:37
nobody was waiting very long to be like what the [ __ ] because why would you and
00:28:42
like I said Pierce Walsh came to the Manning household asking about him and said did he come to dinner at your home
00:28:49
the Thursday after we came to dinner like that next day and Marie was like no he never came to dinner that night liar
00:28:56
and while she was like hmm that's weird because he said I've been talking to people because I'm worried about Patrick
00:29:03
and he said I went to the dock and he said everyone at the Docks where he was working on Thursday said that he told
00:29:10
them he was on his way to your house for dinner that night yeah so like and then
00:29:14
they just lie to me oh yeah and then he was like and also I talked to people on London Bridge who were working there and
00:29:21
they said on the way to your house on London Bridge he told people I'm on my way to the Mannings wow so he was like
00:29:28
people know of course he was coming here so he was like do you wanna like I don't
00:29:32
know change that up a little bit and she was like oh well no he never came and she was like but I did invite him he was
00:29:39
supposed to come but he never showed up and he was like well that's not what you
00:29:42
said initially but okay so you're being shady yeah so immediately everyone is like
00:29:47
um this is suspicious now friends of Patrick's also spoke to his landlady because they they're trying
00:29:54
to find him they gave a [ __ ] about him and landlady reveals well Marie Manning
00:30:00
came to the home and asked for the keys twice back to back after he went missing
00:30:05
and she came in here and was in here for a while that's pretty damning so they were like okay so after speaking with
00:30:13
Marie and seeing that she lied about him coming to dinner and the night when the
00:30:17
wit when they had Witnesses who told them that or who he told where he was on his way to their home for dinner and
00:30:23
talking to the lady I'm like the lady the landlady saying Marie was there twice after he went missing they were
00:30:30
like okay we have enough to call the police and say something Shady about these people like please this wasn't
00:30:38
just like a bunch of random collection of like this is like everything is pointing to like the landlady Marie was
00:30:44
here she was here twice the people at London Bridge yeah he was on the way to the Mannings people at the Docks he was
00:30:49
on the way to the man right what else can you say so he calls the Metropolitan Police
00:30:55
tells them everything the Metropolitan Police were actually like very new at this time I think they were only like 20
00:31:00
years old at this point too it was just interesting now soon Frederick and Marie start turning on
00:31:08
each other I knew that was gonna happen because remember they didn't like each other to begin with no I don't know why
00:31:14
they thought killing her lover was going to like bring them together in any way shape or form they [ __ ] hated each
00:31:20
other they're both shitty people yeah what what did you think was gonna happen here
00:31:24
so they're turning on each other and now again they have his Railway shares because that's basically what they have
00:31:31
killed him for but [ __ ] is not going to go smoothly they think this is just going to be like hey I'm Patrick
00:31:37
O'Connor you're gonna say with your English accent right phone and like try to sell his shares and nobody's gonna
00:31:44
question it so Marie tells Frederick you know what we gotta get out of here we gotta get out of town so she's like you
00:31:51
need to go and you need to sell the furniture in our house so we can get more money so we can take these shares
00:31:56
and run the [ __ ] out of here it's like you don't think anybody is gonna be like
00:31:59
hey they're selling all their Furniture police maybe head down there no she's like let's sell everything we got get
00:32:04
the money and let's get the [ __ ] out of here so he goes and while he's gone she
00:32:09
steals all the railway shares all the valuable [ __ ] and she dips before Frederick gets back wow she just doesn't
00:32:18
give a [ __ ] about anybody she cares about Marie yeah Marie only so she [ __ ] him over and he left on his own
00:32:25
after that as well as soon as he came back and saw that she had taken everything he was like well [ __ ] he was
00:32:30
like well now I have to go so he got out of there so they're now taking off in separate directions on the run on the
00:32:37
run in two's totally separate worlds right which is like bad because now you're spreading your [ __ ] everywhere
00:32:42
instead of staying together bad so shortly afterwards on August 17th this was only like days after
00:32:50
the police come knocking at the Manning's house they went into the home after the
00:32:55
landlady allowed them in and it was clear that the Mannings had left the place in a very big hurry they took most
00:33:00
of their stuff but what was left was in complete disarray it's like they had just ransacked and laughed because they
00:33:06
very much did because they did they soon so they're going through the house they're trying to find anything they
00:33:11
soon make their way into the kitchen they were struck with the condition of the floor it was so clean
00:33:19
no flagstone floor was this clean and tidy girl and it's not like it matched the rest of the home which wasn't like a
00:33:26
[ __ ] pigsty but it wasn't like house beautiful either yeah like it was just a very normal house yeah this is like very
00:33:32
much like this was cleaned in particular so this is pretty big for the police at
00:33:37
this time because again they're very young police force and they notice this they look closer and it appears that one
00:33:43
flagstone in particular the edges were damp and they were like this is weird it looks like it wasn't properly sealed
00:33:50
like the rest of them or that it was recently sealed and the rest of them were sealed a long time ago right so
00:33:56
they're like hmm so they stick something in there they like you know use like some kind of sharp instrument to kind of
00:34:02
cut away that seal and they kind of just hoisted up and they immediately see a human toe sticking out of the dirt oh my
00:34:10
goodness when they uncovered this they see that it was Patrick O'Connor his body was face down in the dirt he
00:34:18
was naked so they had stripped him and his feet were hog-tied to his thighs oh my gosh yep his hands were tied
00:34:26
behind his back and they were able to identify him by his Dentures which they left in like stupid idiots okay now the
00:34:35
best thing about this I was I was telling John this and he was like this is amazing so I was watching this like
00:34:42
documentary about this and there were all these like older British historians that were talking about this case this
00:34:48
particular point they found [ __ ] hilarious and I couldn't stop laughing because they were all it's all these
00:34:56
older historian like British men yeah being like these [ __ ] stupid potatoes didn't take out his [ __ ] teeth like
00:35:03
they were just like what idiots like who does that who just leaves fake teeth in
00:35:07
this dead body for them to find like they were and every time they would go to one another guy who would be like
00:35:14
laughing hysterically about it and I was like wow I was like the British are the
00:35:19
cheekiest [ __ ] I appreciate it so hard because they were like this these [ __ ] dummies
00:35:26
didn't take his teeth out who wouldn't think to do that and I'm like I love that you're so appalled by that I would
00:35:31
not think to take somebody's teeth out I mean I wouldn't think to murder someone
00:35:35
so also I guess I'd never get there this was no this was in the 1840s I don't think that like the first thing on these
00:35:41
like idiot first of all they're dummies anyways but they're they're like burying
00:35:45
him in their actual floor right um but like I don't think in their action their actual kitchen not the figurative flower
00:35:52
like nowhere else they're not taking him into the woods or something just like in
00:35:55
the floor right they didn't want to do it and it's like so you think these dummies
00:36:00
are gonna be like hmm we should probably take his fake teeth out because you never know when dental
00:36:06
technology could advance in the next year or so and they could identify him through those you know they're not
00:36:10
thinking that of course they're not they aren't thinking that they think of that
00:36:13
lime is going to take care of everything that's all they were thinking about they're idiots but I could not stop
00:36:17
laughing at how [ __ ] funny these older British historians found this particular I love that they were just
00:36:25
like ripping on them like they was like it was like a Comedy Central roast it was amazing anytime I could do like a
00:36:31
British case I feel like it's always interesting because the humor the humor is wonderful it really is so now they
00:36:39
look now they're looking at the Mannings obviously who they're like okay we now know that they did this this happened
00:36:46
but they don't know that they're on the Run separately right they think they're on the run together of course they do
00:36:51
because why wouldn't they be so Home Secretary Sir George Gray offered a 100 pound reward for any information leading
00:36:58
to their capture their descriptions were released drawings were released of the them descriptions of the valuables that
00:37:05
they had stolen were published the public was on the case along with the detectives this was like a a huge thing
00:37:12
so now they bring Scotland Yard onto this I knew it was coming you got to bring Scotland yet of course you do so
00:37:20
you're gonna call they find out Scotland Yard is like on it and they find out from a cab driver who saw their
00:37:26
descriptions in the paper because it was really smart of them to release their descriptions the drawings of them
00:37:32
everything like that and their names for that matter they find out from a cab driver that he had driven a Woman
00:37:38
matching Marie's description to catch a train to Scotland believable yep and she
00:37:44
had told him that she was headed for Edinburgh now they follow this and find find out
00:37:49
that a woman matching her description did indeed catch a 6 15 a.m train to Edinburgh that day and was doing so
00:37:57
under the name Mrs Smith now Witnesses who saw her said she was acting very strange she was very nervous
00:38:04
acting very off dropping [ __ ] like just acting like something was wrong then following that lead they find out that
00:38:11
some luggage was seen in Edinburgh at a train station and it was with a woman whose description matched Maurice
00:38:18
perfectly and it also had the tag Mrs Smith on it so these Scotland Yard baddies now use the brand new system of
00:38:28
telegraph to Telegraph up to Edinburgh and the Edinburgh detectives were able to track down Marie under the fake name
00:38:35
she was using there wow this is Iconic also the fake name she decided upon was Mrs Smith yeah really girlfriend yeah
00:38:43
Mastermind not a lot of neurons firing up there none they also caught her while she was in the process of trying to sell
00:38:49
the [ __ ] Railway chairs in Edinburgh stop it she was living in a fancy-ass hotel because she'd sold some of the
00:38:56
stuff right and they arrested her and brought her right back to London when they searched her possession she was
00:39:02
holding all of Patrick's Railway shares and now this was a huge milestone for police work at this time the
00:39:08
Metropolitan Police like I said had only been around for like 20 years right the
00:39:12
electric telegraph was brand new as well and it had been invented around 1837. so
00:39:19
this was all new they also were breaking barriers by by using leads from boat records and Railway records for this
00:39:26
case which was like a step forward for police war of course yeah and the way that all the leads lined up and they
00:39:32
were able to use all that was like a huge groundbreaking case yeah now so she was brought right back to London
00:39:39
Frederick was found pretty quickly as well shocking he had caught a boat to the island of Jersey and was just hiding
00:39:45
out there he had been hanging in Saint helier Jersey and was drinking like a fish again he had run into someone he
00:39:52
knew from London there and that old friend called police because they saw the murder news in the papers and also
00:40:00
someone used the new Telegraph system to let detectives in Scotland Yard know that they saw Frederick on a steamer
00:40:06
making his way to the islands wow these dinguses just like got away for like a minute and a half and he was even
00:40:15
stupider because he acted like a dick to someone who just asked him for directions on the way there and that
00:40:20
person remembered his description in the the paper and they called police as well
00:40:24
and were like this [ __ ] wouldn't even give me directions the ultimate Revenge yeah so he got scared by that old friend
00:40:30
when he ran into that old friend he was like they're gonna remember me yeah and like that's gonna be a problem and so he
00:40:37
had actually run to St Lawrence Jersey at this time he's just like running around inside I'm just he's Forrest
00:40:42
gumping he literally is he spent his time getting even drunker and causing a lot more people to notice him because he
00:40:48
was like causing trouble I love that their motto was be so suspicious be so suspicious the most conspicuous people
00:40:56
you will ever meet meanwhile the entire time that this is happening that he's like running around these islands like
00:41:02
causing Havoc but thinking he's one step ahead of the police yeah the police were
00:41:06
on the island the entire time just following his movements stop it was like good police work and they also were
00:41:12
shocked that he didn't even attempt to leave knowing that they were looking for him that's the other thing I was waiting
00:41:18
for you to say like and then he left no he was just hopping around the island wow now the telegraph from the newspaper
00:41:24
describing his apprehension said this because they immediately apprehended him on the island of course it said quote
00:41:30
the Southwestern Company steamer Courier has just arrived here bringing intelligence of the arrest of Frederick
00:41:36
George Manning last night at Jersey on the charge of murdering O'Connor Manning was apprehended whilst in bed at half
00:41:44
past nine o'clock amazing I love that they waited at a public house in Saint heliers but the chief of police of the
00:41:51
island in conjunction with officers Langley and lockyer officers of the Metropolitan detective police
00:41:58
so when he was found there by police he admitted everything of course he did everything he said he beat Patrick
00:42:04
O'Connor over the head with a crowbar but he said Marie shot him in the back of a head he said quote I never liked
00:42:10
him so I battered his head with a ripping chisel that's not anything and it's like dude
00:42:16
sir okay he apparently also asked if Marie was arrested like immediately and was pleased when they told her him that
00:42:23
she had been arrested he had said quote has the wretch been taken the rush has the wretch been taken and when they said
00:42:31
yeah he said quote I'm glad of it it will save my life what this is the marriage marriage for real I'm like girl
00:42:40
you should have just married I mean like you don't deserve Patrick so I'm glad you didn't but you should just married
00:42:45
Patrick and like avoided all of this idiot you're just it's your fault that you're all idiots the other stupid one
00:42:52
Frederick and her are the biggest idiots they are now he kept saying that she deserved it he was telling the police
00:42:58
like she deserves it because she was the real perpetrator here even though he had
00:43:02
bashed O'Connor's head in 17 times that's fine like she was the bad one you deserve it too and like yeah she's bad
00:43:09
too you're also a [ __ ] bag yeah equal he was also pissed that she left him and
00:43:14
took the money so he was like I'm pissed which is like you're also not helping your case of pretending you had nothing
00:43:19
to do with this because you're pissed at her for abandoning you and taking the money right now in the telegraph it
00:43:25
explains his confession as well it says quote Manning confessed his guilt to the
00:43:30
officers upon his apprehension adding that he was instigated to the deed by his wife and affirming that Mrs Manning
00:43:37
fired the pistol and shot at the unfortunate Mr O'Connor Manning moreover stated that it was his intention to have
00:43:43
surrendered on Wednesday if he had not been apprehended yet totally if you guys didn't get me today I was totally gonna
00:43:50
surrender tomorrow he was like I was just gonna hit the pub one more time yeah and then I was trying to be out of
00:43:56
here and I would have shown up and confess the whole thing should have just given me a second but like good on you
00:44:00
guys for getting me yeah great job guys but I was gonna do it anyways so it's fine okay Frederick Dingus now both of
00:44:06
them were locked and new locked up in new gate prison uh Frederick requested while sitting in jail on murder murder
00:44:12
charges that a guard give him a pipe and some smoking tobacco no and they were like no thanks though thank you for
00:44:20
asking that though you [ __ ] idiot now from appearances guards and those who saw him in jail said it was obvious that
00:44:28
he was very addicted to alcohol because now without it he was very pale and very
00:44:32
sick uh which I'm like he could have died uh like it's actually crazy that he didn't yeah now because it sounds like
00:44:40
he was very addicted of course now immediately this is when the burmanzi uh horror title came like through all the
00:44:48
newspapers this is what this was called and it's still known of that today now everyone went nuts over this story and
00:44:55
of course Marie was the one that they really honed in on because it's usually the woman that they hone in on these
00:45:02
cases she's a terrible piece of [ __ ] but also Frederick was a terrible piece of
00:45:07
[ __ ] as well they're equal pieces of [ __ ] now the trial was at Old Bailey on
00:45:11
October 25th 1830 39 Witnesses were brought up to identify them both now what I found interesting I watched
00:45:20
something called Murder maps on this it's a really like crazy uh show that like goes through like old-timey murders
00:45:27
and it like Maps it out for you it's cool and they were talking about how an Old Bailey these trials would only last
00:45:34
like like minutes quick but this one lasted longer but I just had no idea that these
00:45:40
trials were so quick there yeah it's interesting I had never heard that so Witnesses were brought up to identify
00:45:46
them both and the superintendent of the Edinburgh police was one of the witnesses uh he was Richard John Moxie
00:45:52
he stated on the stand that it was Marie who was in Scotland when he questioned her about the whereabouts of her husband
00:45:59
she had told him her name was Mrs Smith she had run from her cruel abusive husband Frederick because he drank and
00:46:06
she worried that he would murder her that's why she was in Edinburgh she said oh he also said that she just ran her
00:46:12
[ __ ] mouth once everything came out and she was being arrested she started talking about how Patrick O'Connor was
00:46:18
the kindest man she knew and he acted as a father to her uh uh remember they were [ __ ] on the
00:46:27
regular guys like what what why are you saying he acted like a father to you that's weird that's weird
00:46:35
she definitely was saying it to be like she was trying to come off more innocent
00:46:39
like this was a father right if she says that she's having an affair with him they're gonna it gets spicier right it's
00:46:45
the salaciousness of it all exactly yes now this is when she said he was invited
00:46:50
to dinner that day but he never came and she had gone to his home afterwards she
00:46:55
was like yes of course the landlady is right I went to his home and she said but I was just looking for him I went to
00:47:00
some to see where he was and then did she say it's just so crazy that he ended up in my floorboards yeah it's wild I
00:47:06
didn't check there yeah I I would have looked there had I known but I look I went to his house now two clerks
00:47:13
testified that Frederick Manning was the man who had called under the name Patrick O'Connor to cash out some of his
00:47:19
Railway stocks they were like stock broker clerks yeah now side note to this uh at the time cholera was rampant at
00:47:28
this time in London gross one witness to testified on the Friday that Frederick called pretending to be Patrick and then
00:47:35
that witness had died by Saturday from cholera oh my goodness isn't that wild yeah the second clerk got it and died by
00:47:43
Sunday Jesus so they testified on a Friday both were dead by Sunday of Cholera whoa now cholera on case you
00:47:50
don't know it causes like severe dehydration from vomiting and diarrhea it's like from usually from a shitty
00:47:56
drinking water oh okay now just as a little side note because this was interesting to me because I was like um
00:48:02
excuse me two witnesses died within a weekend of testifying that's how bad this was right there was a cholera
00:48:08
outbreak that lasted two years starting the year before this in 1948 and it was said to be the worst outbreak in the
00:48:15
city's history wow so while this was going on it was like the worst outbreak so they're trying to deal with that and
00:48:21
they're trying and trying to like keep people alive right in England and Wales over 14 000 people died oh my gosh
00:48:28
during this outbreak and a guy named Edwin Chadwick was a social reformer at the time and he was like guys there is
00:48:36
clearly a link between sanitation and disease in cholera and in 1842 he had actually wrote about this in his
00:48:43
publication the sanitary conditions of the laboring population He was discussing life expectancy in
00:48:51
relation to disease and living conditions in it and this led to the 1948 Public Health act that appointed
00:48:57
Edwin as the first director of the general Board of Health because of his findings in research get it Edwin now he
00:49:05
later because no he later actually became the sanitary Commissioner of London for sure but in fact at the time
00:49:13
newspapers were saying cholera was actually the best sanitary reformer because it did inspire people to try to
00:49:20
live in the cleanest conditions they could at the time okay because it wasn't always within everybody's control at the
00:49:26
time right considering what was going on but unfortunately only very limited improvements were actually made to
00:49:33
ventilation and drainage in the city after he became commissioner he tried but he didn't wasn't able to do a whole
00:49:39
lot so actually because of the changes more runoff went into the River Thames which was like the main Supply and
00:49:49
further contaminated the drinking water which led to more of an outbreak and again the worst outbreak in the city's
00:49:55
history in those two years starting in 1948. yay so that was just like an interesting side note of what was going
00:50:01
on at the time [ __ ] was bad uh so back to the trial they launched separate defenses they were not even going to do
00:50:09
the defenses together they were just going to go after each other wow I love that they're just like no longer married
00:50:15
[ __ ] right off and that's I'm like you are the Mannings like you are still fully married right now but Frederick
00:50:22
Frederick Frederick uh Frederick decided to just blame the entire thing on Marie
00:50:27
because he figured the Press was leaning that way anyways so he was just gonna play into it saw that coming now he
00:50:32
reminded everyone that it was Marie who invited Patrick for dinner that evening not him he was like it's totally her
00:50:39
the defense made sure she appeared to only be the hungry the money-hungry villain that yeah money hungry that she
00:50:47
really was like they I'm hungry that's the thing you knew where it was of course they did we're just helping each
00:50:53
other out with our made-up words today I appreciate it uh but they were really hammering in on that fact yeah because
00:50:58
it's you know the truth now they brought Francis Stevens to the stand and he was
00:51:03
Patrick's stockbroker in heat so he had a very close relationship with Patrick he identified his own signature on those
00:51:10
shares that were found in Marie's possession and he kept saying she then he was like those are my shares that I
00:51:17
gave Patrick like I can guarantee you so why would she [ __ ] have those on her person when she was arrested have him
00:51:24
under her floorboards I would be like why are we here right now the body was found under her floorboards in her
00:51:31
kitchen it's because the two of them are going after each other saying I didn't do it he did it I didn't do it she did
00:51:37
it right right so now they need to be like what the [ __ ] but she kept saying she only went to Patrick's place after
00:51:43
he was missing because she was looking for him and she kept to that story but this whole thing shattered that
00:51:48
completely because Francis Stevens being on the stand saying yeah those are the start those are the shares that I gave
00:51:55
him I signed those off she only has those in her possession because she went to his home and stole
00:52:01
them those weren't that whole story she's telling about like I went there just to check on him and that shattered
00:52:07
now because while she was there she stole those shares he didn't give them to her and why would you do that so that
00:52:12
was just gone but Marie's defense was that she wasn't there when Patrick was murdered now she's saying I wasn't even
00:52:18
there and she said the whole she was part of the cover-up and you know sure maybe I stole some things afterwards but
00:52:25
like I didn't kill him but then after the whole you know she went to Patrick's place to steal his [ __ ] after he was
00:52:31
murdered thing came out she pivoted and she said okay but this was just Frederick's deal
00:52:37
and I just covered it up like so now she's like okay yeah sure I went there afterwards whatever like I but because
00:52:45
now she's like okay I'm gonna take a step back I'm gonna say I didn't do the murder but I had to cover it up because
00:52:52
he's my husband and he made me and he made me do it and you see in Britain at this time women had to obey their
00:52:59
husband's orders and therefore a law was actually in place that said a wife could
00:53:04
not be charged with being an accessory to murder if her husband committed the murder and ordered her to Aid him in
00:53:11
covering it up dude so they were gonna try to use that law that's a dangerous ass that's all because it was basically
00:53:18
like that's a loophole like I I have to be loyal to my husband first as a wife so I had to do this like by law I am
00:53:27
compelled to help him cover this up but you can't charge me with accessory because by law I have to help him that's
00:53:32
just giving people a little while and loophole a murder loophole the loopiest move pull but they just said okay that
00:53:41
still doesn't explain why you then stole all of Patrick's [ __ ] and also invited
00:53:45
him to dinner yourself right like what was the plan there so she then testified to the fact that
00:53:51
Patrick O'Connor meant more to her than her husband ever did oh she is so she was just throwing for the gonads in
00:53:58
those wounds and she said because of this he was murdered by Frederick who just went nuts from jealousy
00:54:05
and it was all about the fact that Patrick or Frederick could not handle the affair with Patrick that's scary
00:54:10
because I honestly feel like if I were a juror I would believe that it's a d it's
00:54:14
a decent defense it is it really is like I think I I could definitely see that being a thing yeah I mean we know it is
00:54:21
not because we're looking at this from no of course not but imagine like sitting in a juror seat back then you
00:54:27
could be like yeah maybe he did go crazy from Josie that's a reasonable doubt right there but I think the fact that
00:54:34
she has all the railway shares and she like actively ran to Edinburgh and changed her name and all that kind of
00:54:40
goes against her little dance would have been a decent defense had she not done that now this is when the newspapers
00:54:46
went Buck Wilds when it started getting into the Affairs [ __ ] they said let me
00:54:50
get buck in here suddenly rumors went wild that this was not just a torrid Affair between Patrick and Marie no now
00:54:58
people in the papers were suggesting that there was a three-way sexual relationship happening here and that
00:55:04
something went wrong with within that complex Affair I knew from the beginning of my story that you were gonna say that
00:55:10
it was scandalous at the time on a level no one had ever seen and no matter what
00:55:16
it was going to be taken as partially true because it was said right rumors are said they become truth to a lot of
00:55:22
people which is dumb but it's the that it happens that's actually the the theme of my entire upcoming case well there
00:55:29
you go now of course they all denied that Frederick denied that Marie denied that right there was no but of course
00:55:38
it's just something that maintains to this day that it was like a big rumor I don't think that's true I don't think
00:55:43
that was true at all but I think it's like they did it just to make it even more scandalizing you know right sell
00:55:49
the tabloids of the time so it only took the jury 45 minutes of deliberation both
00:55:55
of them were found guilty of murder both of them were sentenced to hang wow yeah
00:56:00
which is wild now later the defense team for Marie said which is just funny I think Frederick's defense team was like
00:56:07
yeah we gave it a shot like sure Marie's defense team came out later and was like
00:56:11
oh we never for one second believed she was innocent like we there was really nothing we could have
00:56:17
done like they were like we I'm surprised we got that far with it they were like yeah we were prepared to take
00:56:22
a hella Big L yeah they were like we figured this was gonna be a loss and that's fine oh man now during the time
00:56:28
between trial and execution Marie did attempt suicide in jail oh uh she tried to strangle herself and Pierce her
00:56:35
windpipe with her own fingernail what but she was stopped oh yeah she then wrote a letter to Queen Victoria
00:56:43
asking for her girl remember me it literally did that like was like you because they did have a previous yeah
00:56:51
some kind of relationship even if it was staff and queen you know they they had known each other so she had written to
00:56:58
her asking for her to use her power to give her reprieve from hanging uh in Queen Victoria wrote her back because
00:57:04
she knew who she was and she was like no you're a filthy murderer and you're gonna hang you [ __ ] it was
00:57:10
literally like I think Justice is served here it's like I just got like a picture
00:57:13
in my head of Ever After like spoiler ahead so like don't listen if you don't want that but when when she becomes
00:57:20
Queen and then they're like will anybody speak for you and then Drew Barrymore goes I'll speak for you it gives me that
00:57:27
that's the vibe yeah there you go anybody that hasn't seen ever after is like what yeah like I'll I'll say
00:57:33
Bridgerton the queen on there no spoilers what no but it's not a spoiler but she's awesome I love her I love the
00:57:41
queen on there and I can picture her just being like no you filthy murderer she would go say it in person 100 so her
00:57:49
next move was to write Frederick and to try to seduce him again she's like sorry
00:57:54
that during the trial I said it was all your fault it was just a little joke she
00:57:59
was like you know what everyone goes through a rough patch in their marriage okay you know the first year is the
00:58:05
hardest it's tough now when he began responding because they started corresponding she then was like
00:58:12
hey baby Honey Sweetie Pie would you maybe want to take like all the responsibility for this like one of
00:58:20
us might as well get out of here do you think that would be something and he immediately wrote her back and
00:58:25
was like [ __ ] off which I was like no I just picture him like with like the paper like this way just like [ __ ] off
00:58:32
yeah like no thank you so that ended right away yeah I bet so November 13th night or 1849 they were taken to the
00:58:40
Gallows together before they went to The Gallows Marie asked to have her black silk kerchief tied around her eyes
00:58:48
because she didn't want to see the actual Gallows or the crowd which was said to have been a crowd of between 30
00:58:56
000 and 50 000 people waiting Jesus Christ that's why everybody was sick what are you doing in a group of 30 000
00:59:01
people ever I'm like that's just a petri dish that's too many people also stop watching public execution that's a hold
00:59:08
up debate they did this for her so they did do this for her they tied the kerchief around her eyes yeah but the
00:59:13
crowd was a [ __ ] crazy ass nightmare in and of itself yeah they actually crushed a woman to death in the crowd oh
00:59:20
um and like a few other like people got really injured um reports said that Marie leaned over
00:59:26
at the last second and kissed Frederick weird and they took this as like a a thing between them like if All Is
00:59:33
Forgiven kind of thing which is strange but both were hanged on the roof of horse Monger Lane jail Frederick died
00:59:41
immediately when he was hanged Marie strangled for a while before dying oh I feel like that's like weirdly like I
00:59:48
know the universe like some kind of symbolic thing weirdly Herman Melville was in the crowd during this you know
00:59:56
Moby Dick oh yeah you know that little little tale I think I've heard of it yeah like once he watched this he paid
01:00:03
money for a spot on a rooftop because people would pay money to like for spots to watch this [ __ ] wow um yeah and he
01:00:09
later wrote in his journal about it what he wrote quote the man and wife were hung side by side still unreconciled to
01:00:16
each other what a change from the time they stood after being married together you're like that's [ __ ] crazy imagine
01:00:24
that it's like here's the dear diary yeah I've got some hot tea some hot tea and Charles Dickens actually watched
01:00:32
this what the [ __ ] what is up with like literary now in the Crowd Charles Dickens was this was actually he was
01:00:38
never really into the public execution thing but this really turned him against it oh um he was watching it and he
01:00:45
actually wrote a letter to the times speaking of how barbaric public executions were and the way the crowd
01:00:51
reveled in it repulsed him yeah because it is gross I have to read the letter he
01:00:55
wrote Because it's like yeah he wrote I was witness of the execution of horse Monger Lane this morning I went there
01:01:01
with the intention of observing the crowd gathered to hold it and I had an excellent I had excellent opportunities
01:01:07
of doing so at interviews intervals all through the night and continuously from Daybreak until the spectacle was over I
01:01:15
believe that a site so inconceivably awful is the wickedness and levity of the immense crowd collected at that
01:01:21
execution this morning Could Be Imagined by no man and could be presented in no Heathen land under the sun the horrors
01:01:28
of the jibbet and of the crime which Brought The Wretched murderers to it faded in my mind before the atrocious
01:01:34
bearing looks and language of the assembled Spectators when I came upon the scene at midnight the shrillness of
01:01:40
the cries and howls that were raised from time to time denoting that they came from a concourse of boys and girls
01:01:46
already assembled in the best places made my blood run cold as the night went on screeching and laughing and yelling
01:01:54
in strong chorus of parodies parodies of Melodies with substitutions of Mrs Manning for other things was like
01:02:02
or excuse me and the like were added to these when the day dawned thieves low thieves low sex workers he said
01:02:11
prostitutes Ruffians and vagabonds of every kind flocked onto the ground with every variety of offensive and foul
01:02:18
Behavior fightings faintings whistlings imitations of punch brutal jokes tumultuous demonstrations of indecent
01:02:26
Delight when swooning women were dragged out of the crowd by police with their dresses disordered gave a new zest to
01:02:32
the general entertainment when the sun rose brightly as it did it gilded thousands upon thousands of upturned
01:02:39
faces so inexpressibly odious in their brutal mirth of or callousness that a man had caused to feel ashamed of the
01:02:46
shape he wore and to shrink from himself as fashioned in the image of a devil when the two miserable creatures who
01:02:53
attracted all this ghastly sight about them were turned quivering into the air there was no more emotion no more pity
01:03:00
no more thought that two Immortal Souls had gone to judgment no more restraint in any of the previous obscenities than
01:03:07
if the name of Christ had never been heard in this world and there were no belief among men that if they perish
01:03:13
that they had perished like beasts I am solemnly convinced that nothing that Ingenuity could devise to be done in
01:03:19
this city in the same Compass of time could work such ruin as one public execution does and I stand astounded in
01:03:27
appalled by the wickedness it exhibits I do not believe that any Community can prosper where such a scene of horror and
01:03:34
demoralization as this enacted this morning outside horse Monger Lane jail is presented at the very doors of good
01:03:40
citizens and is passed by unknown and forgotten beautiful I mean Charles Dickens yeah
01:03:48
but he literally was like this is a [ __ ] Scourge on society I mean and it needs to stop like he was not wrong and
01:03:56
he was not wrong and because of this he became a very UNS outspoken advocate for
01:04:01
ending public executions completely he was also inspired by watching the hangings of the Mannings to write
01:04:08
um the novel Bleak House which is like a very big novel of his um the one of the characters in the book
01:04:14
Hortense is actually inspired by Marie Manning that's crazy like directly Marie actually this is just a last little
01:04:21
thing Marie wore a black satin uh dress when she was hanged and the fabric went like totally out of style for a while
01:04:28
because of it nobody would buy it oh wow um sales like plunged and she was called
01:04:33
the woman who murdered black satin for a while how dare she isn't that wild that's insane so though they were hanged
01:04:42
together side by side a married couple and I think they were only like the second married couple to be hanged
01:04:47
that's not and just the fact that they gave each other a smooch before yeah that's like so at least a lot of Reports
01:04:53
say that of course yeah but a lot of reports do say that that happened so creepy yeah so that is the burmanzi
01:05:01
horror or Patrick O'Connor I know huh I just feel bad for him I do too that's just sad it is and so senseless it is
01:05:10
like we say all murder is senseless but some of them you're just like this especially when it's for money it's like
01:05:16
yeah just go make your own money like just you were enjoying hanging out with the family that you worked for so just
01:05:21
continue working yeah exactly you'll get a fancy dress out of it and you can hang
01:05:25
out with the queen yeah a scoundrel a scoundrel a cad scoundrel or a cad so yeah that was a wild
01:05:33
old-timey one for you it was well God we hope that you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird but not so
01:05:44
worried that you get two husbands and then you decide to kill one of them with the other one and then you leave the
01:05:47
other one because you're like no I don't want to be with you anymore but let me steal all this guy's stuff and then bury
01:05:51
him underneath my floorboards I'm like you just can't be doing that out there like stop you can't bye bye and before
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Episode Highlights

  • New Episode Schedule
    Get ready for three episodes a week starting next week!
    “You deserve the schedule that you can be like cool!”
    @ 01m 22s
    January 05, 2023
  • Marie Deroux's Ambition
    Marie Deroux, a domestic servant, dreams of a luxurious life after her parents' death.
    “I feel like it just wasn't enough for Marie.”
    @ 08m 26s
    January 05, 2023
  • Love Triangle Drama
    Marie finds herself torn between two suitors, Frederick and Patrick.
    “You always pick Patrick when faced with a Patrick.”
    @ 17m 45s
    January 05, 2023
  • A Bad Choice
    Marie marries a full-blown alcoholic, leading to a tumultuous relationship.
    “This is a predicament with a capital P.”
    @ 20m 28s
    January 05, 2023
  • Murder in the Kitchen
    Marie shoots Patrick in a shocking act of betrayal, leading to a gruesome cover-up.
    “She literally shoots him in the back of the head with a revolver.”
    @ 26m 18s
    January 05, 2023
  • The Discovery
    Police uncover Patrick's body buried in the kitchen floor, leading to the investigation.
    “They immediately see a human toe sticking out of the dirt.”
    @ 34m 07s
    January 05, 2023
  • The Arrest of Marie and Frederick
    Marie was arrested while trying to sell railway shares, marking a milestone in police work.
    “This was all new; they were breaking barriers!”
    @ 39m 04s
    January 05, 2023
  • Frederick's Arrest
    Frederick was found hiding in Jersey and arrested shortly after Marie.
    “These dinguses just got away for like a minute and a half!”
    @ 40m 09s
    January 05, 2023
  • Cholera Outbreak
    During the trial, cholera was rampant, leading to the deaths of key witnesses.
    “Two witnesses died within a weekend of testifying!”
    @ 48m 02s
    January 05, 2023
  • Marie Attempts Suicide
    While in jail, Marie attempted suicide but was stopped.
    “She tried to strangle herself with her own fingernail!”
    @ 56m 33s
    January 05, 2023
  • The Last Moments
    Marie Manning requested a black silk kerchief to avoid seeing the gallows and crowd.
    “She didn't want to see the actual gallows or the crowd.”
    @ 58m 46s
    January 05, 2023
  • The Aftermath of Execution
    Marie Manning's hanging led to a decline in black satin dress sales, marking her legacy.
    “She was called the woman who murdered black satin for a while.”
    @ 01h 04m 33s
    January 05, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • I feel like it just wasn't enough for Marie.
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  • You always pick Patrick when faced with a Patrick.
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  • I did not see it coming!
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  • Wow, this is iconic!
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  • Cholera was the best sanitary reformer!
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  • What a change from the time they stood after being married together.
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Key Moments

  • Love Triangle17:45
  • Bad Marriage20:10
  • Murder Plot26:23
  • Trial Begins45:11
  • Witnesses Dying47:45
  • Suicide Attempt56:33
  • Filthy Murderer57:04
  • Fashion Fallout1:04:33

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