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hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and I'm Doug Jones and we have a very special episode of morbid
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[Music] today woo Doug Jones is here guys weirdos we I mean Doug Jones is an absolute icon to be perfectly honest and
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also we can we can also say that he is the nicest monster in Hollywood 100% we have had to re reschedule this pod twice
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because of just various shenanigans that occurred nicest man ever like truly if it was going to happen with everyone
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anyone I'm glad it happened with Doug so thank you for being so patient with us oh and you me I I love guys no we love
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you so Doug has breathed life into roles of like the Fawn and The Pale Man and Pan's Labyrinth those are two of my
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favorites like alltime favorites so good the amphibian man in the academy award-winning film the shape of water
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his resume includes the roles of Billy butcherson iconic from Hocus Pocus Baron alanos on what we do in the shadows as
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well as the titular role in David Lee Fisher's upcoming film no Fatu a symphony of hor and we are just so
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excited to have him on the Pod today so again thank you so much for joining us oh thank you and I can't live up to that
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introduction I think we're done here you already have You' already every day thank you so your like like we just
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said your resume is mighty like one of the mightiest we have to ask how are you able to do all that to be all that to
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personify all that and still keep your feet on the ground and truly be the nicest monster in Hollywood oh well
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thank you for thinking of me in that manner I I don't deserve it I love you for that you do um I uh you know it's
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funny my resume is is long not because I'm really that good it's just because I'm that old I've been around a while
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you know um so I I've been I my career has happened because of the graciousness and kindness of the creature effects
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makeup people honestly uh if it wasn't for their referrals early on uh that propelled me to the next project and the
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next one and the next one I never would have met the you know the wonderful Rolodex of directors I have now worked
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with including the ever great GMA do Toro it's because of of those early days being you know when you come to
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Hollywood land and you're a tall skinny goofy uh actor boy 63 135 pounds and you
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have a background as a mime and you can also put your legs behind your head so your resume says Contour iist on it
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there you go so that was like my my first commercial agent's dream it's like okay we can do so much with this so yeah
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so they they submitted me for all kinds of things that were physical Tom Foolery
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and clowning and miming of course uh and a lot of those roles that came with that
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kind of breakdown also came with a look that needed to be glued on to me so uh those early commercials that I did the
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very first commercial I ever did was for Southwest Airlines as a dancing mummy I
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love it right an airline I'll never remember but uh but um I I think the fairs had dropped low enough that I
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could finally come out of my sarcophagus and go on vacation I think that's how it
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worked um and then shortly after that I booked a commercial for a a world of Wonder toys for a doll commercial and I
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was an alien landing in a kid's backyard and I I thought I was making first Contact because the doll was left out
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and it was a talking doll that you know you push it on the belly it's like that tickles whatever so so it was like a
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funny little oh we first Contact but it was a yeah uh that creature effects makeup designer that made those alien
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outfits for that commercial then also was doing the the moon head for the Mac Tonight campaign for McDonald's I
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remember this so vividly right well it set to the theme song uh taken from uh uh Mac the knife but re but re re
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rebranded for McDonald's as Mac tonight I love it it's Mac Tonight hey yeah so I
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ended up booking that job as the Crescent moonhead guy under this huge heavy mask also created by Steve Neil So I was
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already getting a taste of ah the creature effects world is tight and um almost incestuous and you know and they
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they like they're very loyal so if they like working with you so the reputation got around town that I'm tall skinny
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move well and don't complain when there's a lot of stuff on me you're lovely to work with so I guess that's
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the reputation that got around the creature effect you so so the referrals happened and snowballed from there and
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here we are 38 years later uh and um and with a resume that I never foresaw and I
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never I never sought like I want to be monsters I I really wanted to be a sitcom star when I started I wanted to
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be like a goofy nextdoor neighbor that comes you know like on the Dick Van Dyk show I love that or being Kramer on on
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on the Seinfeld you know the guy who comes in and does something funny and leaves you know that's I had very low
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aspirations for myself you surpassed all of them very much thank you so getting swept up by
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the creature effects world was a surprise to me uh but a happy one that turned that has turned into a career
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that that has been very very good to me and um and know and you know when you mention G like the likes of G mod deloro
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when you are standing on the stage at the Academy Awards uh because a movie you were in
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called the shape of water just W best picture and you're there with the entire team accepting the award for best
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picture uh and and it's a it's a Academy best picture with a monster on the cover
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this doesn't happen yeah it really does and you happen to be the guy who played that monster it's surreal moment you can
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imagine I was gonna say how does your brain wrap around that like just being on the Academy Award stage must be like
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what well you're looking you're looking out a sea of the most famous faces you've ever seen in your life and
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they're all looking back at you with adoration in their eyes it's like this this moment doesn't happen to just any
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you that's a pinch me moment for sure totally totally I like the aliens should abduct Me now this is
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insane right that's a good time to die happy right truly you're like I'm I'm good and it's funny that you brought up
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the Mac Tonight character because one I vividly remember those those commercials
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so that's so funny but also our re Searcher for morbid yeah our friend Dave his father Jim White actually directed A
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lot of those commercials so we had like this weird one degree of separation what
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are the chances isn't that weird yeah it's like awesome yes and I remember us talking about this like a long time ago
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when when he brought up like oh my dad directed those things we're like oh my God I used I used to love those
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commercials and then we found out you were ma tonight we were like what well if you can get a message back to him
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that I love him dearly to this day oh of course we definitely will I love that thank you a and we spoke about gyo Del
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Toro and I have to ask because I'm a huge gyo Del Toro fan I think he is so brilliant and he seems like just one of
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he's one of those people that he seems like one of the sweetest kindest just like genuine person what is it is he
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that person what is it like to work with him yes he will they say don't meet your
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Heroes but he is one you would absolutely love to meet because he will live up to all of your all of your
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dreams and expectations of who he is love that I can you can imagine how often I get asked what's it like to work
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with camer Little Tor you got to cuz you're you're not alone in in that love for him I I hear I hear such love for
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him everywhere I go and when you work with him you are you're doing two things you are under the tutelage of one of the
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most Visionary brilliant artists in the world ever you're also hanging out with like a funny friend who is the
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self-effacing hilarious and uh sassy as can be so he's right I love that he's sassy oh no he's he's
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got the best sense of humor uh and in fact he's a director that understands his actors better than any any director
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normally does he uh he directs all of us on the same project in different ways depending on our personality and what
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we'll respond to because he's already sused all that out wow that's he's he's brilliant with with the human Spirit and
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the and psychology and all of it so with with the set of buttons on us that he now knows what to push to get a what
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reaction out of us on the day day he'll direct like so from the hellway movies Ron Pearlman Selma Blair and Doug Jones
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very different personalities so we all got different types of direction from him oh that's like brilliant now with me
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it's very simple he knows if he can make me laugh I'll do whatever whatever he says so one of my favorite examples was
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from Hellboy 2 the Golden Army there was one long tracking shot that he wasn't going to cut away to anything he had no
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coverage to cut away to so I had to I had to do a lot of physical business uh while this one camera circled me and
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I had to be done with the business by the time the camera stopped well I wasn't uh this the first take of this
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it's like I was going slow and methodical and like milking these moments visually and by the time the
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camera stopped and just stayed there for a while and I wasn't done yet finally Goro he finally he yells cut doggy
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you're boring me to tears right and that's all he had to say and I was like got it got it
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I'll go I'll go in a different direction I heard you take take two worked and yeah yeah I I just I love him
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dearly we do have a short hand like that oh I love that that makes me so happy because it truly is one of those things
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that if you hear that all the time don't beet Your Heroes and I'm like not GMO you can meeto there you go meet GMO
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GMO GMO I love it but so one of the big things that's happening right now is that we are in the final season of what
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we do in the sh Shadows yeahwe right it starts on the 21st and you obviously play Baron alanos amazing
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character so good you are like what is it has it been emotional to say goodbye to that character in the
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show yes by the way the baron loves you very much too my darling don't worry about it amazing playing Baron FS has
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been the joy of My Life um you know after this 38-year career of mine or you know that I behind that I have behind me
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with more more coming ahead of course but looking back it's like uh I I have I've looked forward to going to work a
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very handful of times over all of the jobs that I've done because I know that a lot of them are very physically taxing
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and I know it's ahead of me and I'm going to have to go through the process I'm the thing I'm the thing right or I
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have a ton of like science fiction dialogue that I have to blurred out in a monologue with Technic talking it and uh
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I love them but dread them at the same time if you that makes any sense yeah def what we do in the shadows oh my gosh
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I look forward to it with like I can't wait to get there you know I love that because when you're doing something
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that's all for the funny and you are taking vampire tropes and sending them up and like you know and just like
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mocking all of it the best uh you know in this age of Comedy that we're in now everyone's being so careful to not
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offend well our show does nothing but offend everybody you know makes it great and it's got an old school vibe to it
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because love an equal opportunity to offender absolutely let's let's just make fun of
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everybody and we're all care nobody's left out and everybody can be offended together exactly right and
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what the what the baron has also afforded me was uh you know when I um I've always had a love of vampires
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they've always intrigued me and I've wanted to play uh you know a classic vampire uh so years ago if you would
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asked me what's my dream role it would have been what we're going to talk about next would be no Fatu right of course um
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you know the dark mystery of him and the the the the horrific look of him yes well when I was offered the role as
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Baron apanas and what we do in the shadows he kind of was a parody of NOS Fatu in a way he's he's he's the the
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vampire that comes from the old world and he he's he sent all of his minions out to North America to conquer the new
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world and they never made it out of Stanton Island so he kind of stays there with them now like whatever right so
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we'll just do that no I just uh I I love the the uh that now that I've done the no Fatu a symphony of horror movie and
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what we do in the shadows I've had both the light and the dark of this of this type of vampire character I that's my
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favorite part is that you've touched both sides of the spectrum on the vampire scale and so perfectly so good
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so and speaking of like just I was just thinking about like how you were saying like some days you would be like oh God
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I have to go in and like you know I'd have to like spew out all this dialogue that's crazy or I have to go in the
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makeup chair how do you do anything specific cuz I know you probably had to sit in that makeup chair for a lot of
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these roles for a long time do you have to do anything specific to like get yourself in a vibe to be able to do that
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well here's the weird thing about me is that I don't need to do anything specific um unlike most people I don't
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get antsy I don't get stir crazy I can sit still and stare at a wall for hours and be completely entertained wow what
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is that like I I know amazing because that's the number one question I get from people is like I would go crazy if
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I had just sit still for that long and it's like nope that's the easy part of my day the makeup artists are doing all
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the work during that time and I get to just kind of sit there and go over my dialogue if I need to or we listen to
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music or we tell jokes or whatever right it's a great time of day uh it's but it's when now now that it's on and you
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you have extra heat weight stickiness to your person and you have to perform in it all day and keep your energy up while
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wearing extra layers of stuff and um and trying to not not stick to your chair when you when you're taking a break or
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whatever it is right um that's that's the long part of the day for me honestly I can imagine yeah yeah because I that
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would destroy me I'm so heat sensitive that I feel like as soon as I started sweating I'd be like get it off I know
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no I delineate between uh suits and makeups a monster suit would be something that you slip into zip up the
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back right and it might involve a head that's that go slips over your head snaps down to the neck and then you
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there's mechanics that are puppeteered in the face right that's a suit makeup would be either glued or painted onto my
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real person so when you're in a suit there's nothing quite like that feeling of now it goes on much faster
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you're maybe 30 minutes into the whole thing and and you're ready to perform but once it's on it is they're usually
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very heavy and very hot and you feel that trickle of sweat going down the back of your neck and you can't get to
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it or you feel that trickle of sweat coming down the side of your face is it going
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to hit my eye I don't know is it going to go ah it's on the cheekbone now I guess now yeah cuz salty sweat in the
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eye you don't want to do that while you're on camera not great not ideal I give you credit truly I think the
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heaviest thing I've ever worn is my wedding dress and even not at the end of the night I was like get this off of me
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serious well you know people who just wear wigs on camera are it's it's it's an itchy mess and they love I totally
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get it yeah oh yeah wearing a wig for Halloween I'm like why did I choose to do this like awful you end up ripping it
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off like at the end of the night like right right right yeah well going back to our love of vampires your love
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and our love we are so excited like completely stoked for the premiere of David Lea Fisher NS veratu a symphony of
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horror that is premiering on October 18th on Apple TV plus so everybody go check it out but this is a very
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different approach to remaking a classic film it's shot in black and white it's so hauntingly beautiful wege we got to
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get a little sneak peek thank you for the screener it is delicious looking it's beautiful so can you tell us a
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little bit do you know anything about like how they really created the film yeah yeah um thank you for setting that
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up so beautifully by the way uh because uh it's a very confusing time for the title NOS Fatu because there is another
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one right on our tale coming out Christmas directed by the the wonderful Robert Edgars and starring the brilliant
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bill scars guard in the same role I'm playing now he might be younger hotter and more famous than me but I think we
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can have both can't we absolutely we all walk we do right and I'm gonna watch theirs with with every bit of Glee as
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I'm watching on my own um ours though what makes ours a little bit different is it seen for seen the same movie as
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the silent film that made it a classic in the first place so uh I got to get into not only Max Shrek's role but I
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also was in his environment digitally reproduced from the original film that's so D le Fisher our director is a a
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technical wizard who made this all magic happen so it might be something as much
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as me when I was out let's say when no was outside walking around with his coffin under one arm that would be a
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complete 100% green screen set with marks on the floor to match exactly where I needed to turn stop walk up
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steps whatever right that we would match then and with the laate in uh uh frame from the old movie then the least amount
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of green screen used might be uh Ellen's bedroom when I finally get into her and
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I'm finally you know reaching the the the the Pinnacle the the object of my desire she's the she's the the dessert
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of all the meals I've had over over my vampire years her her bedroom scene was walls built furniture in the room and
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the window though was green behind it so that they could put in the original movie uh window behind that that's
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amazing there was a green screen element to every scene of the movie yeah and so
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that does bring old and new together with a very ethereal kind of dream like yes feel to it right um but also ours
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and that's why we filmed ours in black and white so that we could match the old movie more
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seamlessly and um and also with dialogue and sound that fleshes out that silent film story it is seen for seen the same
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story but now with dialogue you get to hear more of it yes right right yeah and it really does have that ethereal
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quality to it it's like it's almost like I don't even know if this is the right one it feels like Gauzy when you watch
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it like it it's just like pretty ve word that is you know like I don't know why it just feels Gauzy I love she's a
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novelist it makes sense yeah it makes perfect sense yeah well you mentioned before that you this is a role you hoped
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you would Play Someday so how was it playing this role was it completely surreal yes yes yes uh he had been my
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bucket list character for many years uh and I think I always had a a love and fascination with vampires anyway and of
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course I loved b legosi as Dracula and of course uh all the other Draculas over the years that have been played by
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various act wonderful actors but there there there's a certain sexiness about Dracula that I thought I don't know that
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Doug Jones can pull that off I think you you totally well bless you bless you for
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but then there's also the the teenager sparkly ones from that other franchise that I'm like H I'm never going to fit
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that demographic so that's okay that's that's really fun right so but the bucktooth pointy eared scraggly one yes
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him I get ding ding yeah yeah so know but what I also love about his hideous look is that he's probably not aware
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that he looks that bad now uh he was a he a count right so he was he's of nobility in his younger day when he was
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a human he probably was quite fetching you know abolutely and he right and he probably was respected by the community
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and all kind and who knows what story got him what decisions he made what what position he put himself in to become a
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vampire and now decades you know you know centuries later who knows how old he is uh he's living with his choice
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right yeah and is he is he ever satisfied did is this a satisfying lifestyle for him so that's why what I
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loved about him was his was his yearning for Ellen uh the the character that uh that I'm after in the movie by the way
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Ellen was played by Sarah Carter Sarah Carter and I starred together a series regulars on Falling Skies about 10 years
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ago it's because of that relationship that I said hey Sarah would you be a deer she's like oh my gosh I love this
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so that's how we got her into the movie she's like Ellen okay is she not a movie
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star seriously God ridiculous yeah ridic right from every angle I know I know I know I know I told truly and uh so her
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husband in the movie young Thomas was played by Emar Cooper He's a series regular on Coronation Street now it's a
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a very British he's from Great Britain so that his accent was legit oh love that so he's sent on this journey by his
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real estate boss who goes crazy by the way his real estate bosses was the character knock played by an actor named
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Edgar Allen Poe do you believe that I know should I know that name I don't know what from yeah but so
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knock sends young Thomas on this journey to fetch me in Transylvania because I'm
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I'm interested in buying a piece of property in their Hometown right across the street from them because something
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about I I you know Ellen has been calling to me from afar and I haven't really you know known who she is yet or
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what she is but I know that I I need her uh he comes to me to sign paperwork for
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this real estate deal and while he's with me he's getting creeped out by all that I am what I look like and and I
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love those scenes when you know we're at the dinner table and he's eating food and I'm not and and I'm just kind of
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staring at him or you know I love that so much so fun right there was so much dialogue happening in those quiet silent
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moments uh where he's very uncomfortable and I'm very comfortable too comtable exactly and one of my favorite moments
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too was I'm about to sign the paperwork and I pause for a minute and say uh uh do you have the time and he hands me his
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pocket watch in which was a photograph of Ellen his wife and that was like that was the moment that count
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orlock realizes that's the object of my desire that's who I've been dreaming of that's who I've been all this time so he
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rushes and signs the paperwork and now it's a done deal so what I love too about this this story is that once he
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gets to the town and takes residency across the street from Ellen and Thomas he doesn't go right for her right away
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he peers at her through the window like a creep of course and uh and he other people in town are dying all around them
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they think there's an epidemic that's you know wiping there's some kind of a virus wiping out the city so he saves
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her for dessert right and by the he gets to her uh this is this is the ultimate this is what uh right the moment his his
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whole life as a vampire has been leading to this moment it's say magnumopus yeah
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right and I love that David Lee Fischer left the camera on me for a long time while I am on her neck and it's very
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sensual and very disgusting all at the same time beautifully horrific beautifully horrific great way great way
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to say it so when then when he comes to and realizes that the Sun is is up and he's it's coming through the window he's
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like he kind of overdid it he over overindulged in his addiction I think that's when he had his come to to light
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moment of I I wanted to add some Humanity into him because watching the silent film of course it's very dramatic
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and and you know and Max Shrek struck that pose when he got in front of the window with a hand on the heart and a
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hand the window like no not the S right so I wanted to strike that that iconic pose as I tried to strike a lot of his
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iconic poses throughout the film but give some some backstory meaning and some heart and soul of why he got into
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that pose oh I love that so this moment in the bedroom I'm thinking wow I had my dessert I've
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reached the Pinnacle of of of my desires where do I go from here is there anything left and did it really truly
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satisfy me or am I just a pathetic being and do I have any reason to live beyond
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this so when the sun is coming in the window he knows he's going to burn if do I take my chances and try get out of the
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room and pass the window sure and if I die you know what maybe I deserve it by now I think that's kind of what the
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backstory I gave him that maybe I'm not sure did or not so it translates definitely it really does no thank you
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thank you so much that's very very sweet uh beautiful and wonderful and intimidating to play this role too
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because there's no way to not compare me to Max Shrek and also to all the other no fatos including William def's
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brilliant shadow of the vampire version and of course bill Scar Guard coming I'm
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sure he's going to be delicious in whatever he does with it too definitely but yeah I could see why that would be
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an intimidating Ro to take on for sure I love that you put like your own like spin on it though and that you put your
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own like feelings into those poses and everything because it really does translate yeah you left your mark on NOS
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forat too oh thank you so so much yeah I I I was so I was so happy that our director too was on board with like
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making sure we hit all those all those those iconic notes like when uh when he's in the bowels of the ship in
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transit and and the captain comes down and sees him like standing up from his coffin stiff as a board right so good
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right that that took some engineering by the way we did and uh and then also the
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the that famous Shadow going up the stairs on his way to Ellen's bedroom so spooky right yeah yeah yeah and then of
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course like I said that the grabbing of the heart and the hand out to the sun when it's time classic I love classic
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classic moment yeah it's awesome going back to the look you mentioned like does he even know that he looks like this
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what was the costuming like like was it very heavy on Prosthetics how how was that for you yeah a good question um
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this was as far as Prosthetics go again I've played creatures that are rubberized from head to toe this was not
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that this was head and hands thank heaven uh so with a with a very specific wardrobe to match the original wardrobe
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and there was a bit of a bit of a hump built into the back because he was hunched over in the original film they
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we didn't I I think I probably stand a little straighter than Max Shrek did but they still did have some some extra
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built built into that hump area of the back oh okay with with his long double breasted coat and um that was gorgeous
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and the Prosthetics though were I I wore more Prosthetics than than the other no
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ratus have that played in including Max Shrek was very smooth it was basically his face with a bald cap and you know
00:27:22
some ears and some funny hair swaps of hair plac just so uh I was more wrinkled and elderly looking um which was a
00:27:31
design uh Choice uh and here's the fun the fun back story of that look Mikael oal a a
00:27:39
very talented artist who owns the Creature Shop spectral motion that did the Hellboy movies with me and the
00:27:44
Silver Surfer movie with me and he as a as a garage project at home started sculpting a no Fatu decades ago uh on a
00:27:54
life cast of me my bust oh wow wow clay to me and started sculpting what he thought no Fatu might look like in his
00:28:02
dreams and he came up with that once once it was done uh they had prosthetic pieces made of it and just as a test fun
00:28:09
makeup test one day he called up and said would you ever want to put this on just for a Saturday afternoon fun photo
00:28:15
shoot I said yes casual it's like manifesting yeah right so we went and did that and this is again a good 10
00:28:21
years before this movie came up oh this is yeah so so when David Lee fiser uh who I'd worked with before for on a
00:28:28
movie much like this we did a we did a reimagining a re a remix of the cabinet of Dr
00:28:34
Caligari that 1919 silent film that we made into the same thing old movie new movie put together with dialogue sound
00:28:41
musical score uh so David Lee Fischer calls me up one day and says hey if you don't want to do this I won't do it but
00:28:47
but I have this idea would you want to ever do no Fatu like we did Caligari and I was like you have been reading my
00:28:54
dreams yes right so so and I said that same phone call oh my gosh I know exactly what makeup I want to wear doing
00:29:01
this too wow so we went back to Mike elaz Aldi and uh his design is what Mo mhart and Ben Plowman then put on Me on
00:29:09
the day it took about four hours a day and those four hours also included appliances on the back of my hands to
00:29:14
make them more bony and veiny right and also to add those those long delicious talents fingernails yes the
00:29:22
acrylics right right talk about Lee press on nails that was a yeah that so cool it was like you were
00:29:29
manifesting this 10 years in advance that's amazing yeah for real is isn't that wackadoodle I know I love it just
00:29:34
love it see it was meant to be yeah that's crazy it really was so speaking of all these vampire things because
00:29:42
vampires are so much fun and it's spooky season and NOS Fatu a symphony of horror
00:29:47
is coming like why not talk about a funny stinky vampire Legend really quick we thought oh okay I want to hear this
00:29:55
yes all right I've got a stinky vampire for you okay this case of vampirism brings us
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all the way back to pench celisa a section of Poland it was the yeeld days of 1582 oh and Johan that is Yi it's
00:30:11
yield johannas conscious was out with one of his horses they were all trying to uh repair the horse's shoe it was him
00:30:18
and a couple assistants now something went wrong where the horse got upset and actually ended up kicking conscious
00:30:24
knocking him unconscious also I swear that's his name and not swearing right now yeah conscious went unconscious
00:30:33
exactly so luckily like I said he wasn't working out there alone so they picked him up they brought him inside laid him
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down in bed now he slipped in and out of Consciousness in the following days but
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in the moments where he was with it awake some dark dark secrets started to come out uhoh consious was very very
00:30:50
worried about dying because the life he led wasn't really the purest he was a well-respected
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in his small community but he admitted while laying on his deathbed that his life had been full of various
00:31:05
sins some even claimed that he admitted to making a deal with the devil that's a
00:31:10
big one that's a huge one that's a big one yeah that'll send you straight to Hades life altering so The Story Goes
00:31:18
that the deal was made around the same time that conscious' young s uh young son excuse me disappeared and many
00:31:25
believe that he actually sold his son to the the devil for money which right after his son disappeared he fell into a
00:31:33
great sum of that's that's the biggest sin you could do I feel selling your son to the
00:31:39
devil that's that's a that's damning evidence too isn't it that's very damning evidence the timing is suspect
00:31:45
the literal receipts are there and that's that's the sin of all sins money has exchanged hands exactly right right
00:31:53
hands claws whatever have you whatever Happ so while he laid down dying in his bed he would call out woe is me how do I
00:32:00
burn and I'm all on fire and he would repeat over and over again that his sins were quote bigger than all of the world
00:32:09
besides and we all agree yeah and everyone said they said you sold your son to the
00:32:15
devil conscious what did you expect yeah that tracks yeah yeah so that uh the night that conscious actually did die he
00:32:22
did eventually come you know to his death the great unconscious is what he became
00:32:29
that was great thank you for that no problem so the night that he did die his son his
00:32:35
oldest son that didn't get sold to the devil was sitting in the room with him and later said that a black cat slinked
00:32:43
into the room jumped upon conscious' chest and started scratching at his face feverishly almost like the cat was
00:32:51
trying to erase him from this world the sun said and this was right before he died poetic he wasn't completely dead
00:32:57
yet it is yet his son said that as the cat suddenly disappeared from the room cious
00:33:03
breathed out his last breath oo so he he did erase him from the world he did the
00:33:08
cat said my job here is done yeah okay he licked his paws and left the room right yeah he said you're welcome
00:33:16
he said peace out you guys so the moment that cious did die a great storm was said to have started and
00:33:24
it raged on all throughout his funeral Henry Moore quot no sooner conscious was dead but a great Tempest arose which
00:33:31
raged most at his very funeral there being such impetus storms of wind and snow that it made men's bodies Quake
00:33:38
their teeth chatter in their heads but soon as he was interred all of a sudden it was calm damn isn't that beautiful
00:33:45
that is beautiful okay hen yeah so there were actually a lot of moving pieces surrounding conscious' burial his
00:33:53
friends and family all felt you know they had heard of his sins but they said maybe he was just you know unconscious
00:33:59
and talking crazy they said I really think he's a great man and he deserves to be laid to rest in a hallowed place
00:34:05
so they all got together and pulled their money to make sure that he was buried to the right of the church's
00:34:10
altar which I guess in Ye Old Days was the best place to be Primo spot Primo spot like Rockstar
00:34:20
parking no apparently very shortly after he was put to rest there little Splats of blood started started showing up on
00:34:28
the church's cloth which was right above where his grave was that's so metal and
00:34:33
listen to this people around town started claiming that they were seeing consious roam the streets uhoh that
00:34:40
would be you know well and fine like cool be a ghost be a spectre but consious wasn't just a spectre he was a
00:34:47
menace to the town and a straightup criminal according to ultor docomo started roaming the streets again he was
00:34:54
going wild his Spectre quote strangled old men galloped around the house like a horse wrestled with people this is my
00:35:03
personal favorite vomited fire like we said that is menacing that's menacing there's more though like
00:35:11
we said spotted Church's alter cloth with blood this is horrible bashed the heads of dogs against the ground oh
00:35:20
straight to jail straight to jail turned milk into blood e drank up supplies of milk sucked cows dry
00:35:28
threw goats about devoured chickens and pulled up fence posts uh oh just a few of the activities that he was up to
00:35:38
threw goats about and also pulled up fence post like he was like your fence whilst vomiting fire yeah yeah wow right
00:35:46
that was his own personal workout apparently exactly calisthetics right right so he was getting all of that you
00:35:55
know some of that was like not so great most of it were just like okay cous you're getting crazy this is where it
00:36:00
gets dark he was also getting very frisky and inappropriate with the women in town it's so like conscious it's so
00:36:07
consy surely surely after his death he was said to have returned to his own home which neighbors had uh seen
00:36:15
physically shaking in the days leading up to this incident and he supposedly just walked right into his wife's
00:36:22
bedroom and demanded that she move over so he could get into bed with her whoa now obviously that would be horrifying
00:36:29
enough but to add insult to injury this Spectre conscious had the most foul breath that this woman had ever smelled
00:36:37
in her life oh this poor woman poor dear poor dear loses her husband and he comes
00:36:43
back all stanky wanting to get into bed with hosis that's exactly worst lost her
00:36:49
husband who sold their son to the devil to the devil yeah she had some issues to
00:36:54
work out in therapy didn't she and then he'd like move over I'd be like no she she rode a horse to her therapist first
00:37:00
thing in the morning and said honey sit down so now she wasn't the only woman whose bed that consious was trying to
00:37:08
get into consious yeah many women in town were reporting seeing his Spectre appearing to them touching them without
00:37:16
permission and stanking up the surrounding areas he would stin he was very smelly now this went on for months
00:37:24
and months people were seeing and unfortunately smelling everywhere he appeared to Old Friends old enemies his
00:37:33
Spectre was returning to his house and scaring the [ __ ] out of the servants people were also seeing flashes of
00:37:39
Lights at all hours of the night coming from the house and people saw him on Horseback a few times you know he goes
00:37:47
for a ride every now and then an evening stroll yeah so obviously something had to be done about this am I right yeah ah
00:37:53
you're so right get them out of here but what were the town's people to do how do
00:37:57
you stop a dead man I no well they started by going to his grave and when they got there they saw all these little
00:38:05
holes in the ground so they said oh that must be it you know he's like oozing out
00:38:09
of the earth obviously so they said we'll fill these up and maybe that will put an end to things it did not and the
00:38:14
little holes just kept reappearing so after going back to the drawing board they decided something more had to be
00:38:21
done here they had to exume his body and check it out so they set out to do just
00:38:27
that and when his coffin was opened up somehow after 6 months of being dead as a doornail K's body was perfectly
00:38:36
preserved uh oh but I bet it stunk it did stink definitely but it had to stink confirm had to stink definitely it's
00:38:44
even said that they handed him a staff and he was able to reach out and grab it so they were like th this rocked their
00:38:51
worlds even more they said what are we to do here so they went they actually went to a judge and and had asked him
00:38:58
what they should do and he said the best thing that they could possibly do was burn C's body so they said okay all
00:39:06
right let's do it he's a vampir he's a vampir that's they said you're working with a vampir here you got to burn yeah
00:39:12
so right they tried to they tried to light him a blaze but his body wouldn't stay lit oh K just said no it's like
00:39:23
awful birthday candles yeah trick candles they got the idea from conscious you didn't know you know yeah if you
00:39:31
look on the back it actually has this Legend on the little pack does it's just more condensed that's all so they said
00:39:38
well we got to do something about this so they ended up cutting him into smaller pieces and when they made the
00:39:46
first cut they said blood spilled from him like it was still flowing freely throughout his body my goodness after
00:39:52
six months of death after six months of death but luckily they ended up being able to fully burn the body once it was
00:39:58
cut into smaller pieces and nobody ever saw or smelled conscious again damn well what a crazy tale right
00:40:09
that was quite a tale and then I so I have to ask so was so was this are these true accounts are these is this
00:40:17
fictitious what where does the story come from polish folklore at least right yes it's polish folklore and it's based
00:40:23
off of Henry Moore's uh version of events of this Tale that he wrote and it was basically uh something he was
00:40:30
writing against atheism whoa oh okay okay oh interesting he was like conscious it happened he said let me
00:40:39
there's actually you can read and I'll link it in the show notes you can read this Tale in much greater detail cuz
00:40:45
Henry Moore told us a lot about consious o oh really okay so that you gave us the
00:40:50
Abridged version this is The Abridged version I didn't want to keep you here I know you have other roles to get to
00:40:55
ducky I know it's sure I want to play conscious now I'm Sor I going to say your next roll is right
00:41:01
here I'll send you the link to the the detailed version and you find somebody to make that movie okay it's a deal was
00:41:08
I'm surprised it hasn't been made yet hly this comes from 1500 something yeah yeah just start practicing throwing
00:41:14
goats about and vomiting fire and taking fences up by the pegs yes just taking fences up just skip the other crappy
00:41:21
stuff like you know the dog beating and and the woman no I don't want to intimidating right you know milking cows
00:41:28
and turning them into blood or yeah maybe skip that part but you know throwing goats about is fine as long as
00:41:34
you're not hurting them right they can land on their hoves okay just holding their hoves and running around with them
00:41:39
yeah there you go yeah that's the tale of conscious man I like that W I thank you for that that
00:41:45
was that was a story I'd never heard before I'm so glad to tell Doug Jones a story he's never
00:41:51
heard great honor about a vampire about a vampire well we would end on which would seem appropriate but we do
00:41:59
have one little thing that we would love to end on we love to do a little short game with guests a lot because this the
00:42:07
these tend to be fun to hear answers so so we would like to know who out of these three characters that I'm going to
00:42:15
list would be most likely to do these certain things I'm going to ask okay so who out of Billy butcherson Baron alanos
00:42:24
and no Fatu would have compete which one would have won The Hunger Games okay okay oh not Billy I don't
00:42:35
think he has any powers to last very long no and the mouth so shut would be not great between Baron affinis and no
00:42:43
far I'm gonna say it's probably gonna be the baron the baron will have lasted longer for The Hunger Games because he
00:42:49
tends to show like a supernatural Powers more often right he flies he he he zaps
00:42:55
things with his hands and he he could could take he could take them he could take them all I think so I think so too
00:42:59
and he's Charming he could do the the alliance thing really well gaslighting yeah I
00:43:07
agree that's the perfect answer yeah so the next one is out of those three characters who would take over the world
00:43:15
successfully if given the chance oh poor Billy I'm gonna have to leave him out of this thing again poor
00:43:21
Billy bless his he might win the next one yeah yeah he probably will win the next one okay okay so uh why don't we
00:43:30
I'm gonna say probably let's go with NOS Fatu on this one because I think that count orlock um his subtleties and his
00:43:39
sneaking around the back door kind of personality might be what gets him to take over things with no one knowing
00:43:46
about it whereas the baron is very out there and very presentational and yeah right yeah he he does it with a flourish
00:43:52
and so you see it coming and he would be stopped before but the count would be more Shifty about it
00:43:57
good point good point I agree with that I love the thought put into this that was a good one and the last one I'm
00:44:03
thinking about it and it might not be bil but possibly okay who would have the biggest tick tock following
00:44:11
of well no honestly it is indeed Billy felt like he was gonna win but I was I didn't know if the baron could
00:44:18
Edge him out well the baron would love to be uh the most famous of all of them because he's very such a narcissist but
00:44:25
I think Billy would win because a scene that you did not that you never saw or a
00:44:29
moment you never saw from Hocus Pocus one that we did film but was cut from the film uh was do do you remember the
00:44:37
the costume dance party yes where B Miller gets the witches get up on stage and sing I Put a Spell on You iconic yes
00:44:44
iconic moment right well Bill my character Billy butcherson was in that scene and I I broke into the and I fit
00:44:50
into the costume party nobody really noticed me because everybody was done up as something and so oh look the fun
00:44:55
zombie right right so I'm I'm I'm uh I'm roaming about the crowd looking for the
00:45:01
kids and trying to you know do my deed and uh once B Miller sings you know I Put a Spell on You and then the whole
00:45:09
crowd gets in a trance and starts dance dance dancing until the spell is broken um uh I I'm not under the spell
00:45:17
but I thought was It was kind of fun for me so there was a scene where you come the action continues outside the dance
00:45:23
party uh but they they come back to the dance party to show everybody still dancing a couple of times oh I love that
00:45:28
one of those one of those coming back to the parties was going to be Billy hopping up on the stage and dancing with
00:45:34
once he had an audience I can be like hey I'm here here and I tell you something I threw my legs about in such
00:45:42
Tom Foolery i i i bounced up and down on the floor I did to see this oh my God it
00:45:49
was it was I that was a raging Tik Tok video before Tik Tok existed okay you are correct I think Billy would have the
00:45:56
dance vide that could end all all Dance videos if if he had a Tik Tok wow I think that footage needs to be released
00:46:02
and somebody needs to make Billy butcher a Tik Tok yes yeah come on oh I love knowing that thank you for that don't
00:46:11
talk about that very often so you you got you might have gotten an exclusive I love that oh dougy Jones forever yeah we
00:46:17
always have so much fun with you we do me too you so thank you so much for coming on today we love sitting with you
00:46:24
you are always welcome you are one of our most favorite most treasured guest and plug plug plug whatever you have uh
00:46:31
now upcoming feel free to shout it from the rooftops here well let's let's let's
00:46:36
go down the list we talked about of course we have we have NOS Fatu a symphony of horror coming to Apple TV
00:46:42
Friday the 18th of October and on Amazon Prime as well I'm also told it's on Fandango and Roku and so look for it on
00:46:50
whatever your device is um also uh uh October 21st starts the new season the final season of what we do in the
00:46:59
shadows Baron afanas does return for a few episodes you'll see me on the first night I think that they think they told
00:47:04
me they're gonna show three episodes on the first night so you're gonna have a lot of Shadows to to start the season up
00:47:10
nice um also Billy butcherson as we've talked about is in Hocus Pocus one and two all month long on the free form
00:47:17
Channel playing as a double feature on various nights and days and other than that uh I have I have more movies coming
00:47:25
I've been doing a lot of and shorts over the last year and a half playing a lot of humans exciting I'm loving this phase
00:47:32
uh and one of them is is a funny movie called operation Taco Garry's zany comedy right uh two
00:47:41
brothers are on a road trip across the country and when they get to their destination uh this cons they find
00:47:46
themselves in the middle of a conspiracy with an earth takeover by aliens and I might happen to be the alien trying to
00:47:53
pass as a human who's the leader of all this yes amazing I'm in that yeah so operation Taco gares is going to be
00:47:59
playing at the Austin Film Festival October 25th awesome you have an exciting October DG I know it's quite
00:48:06
it's quite a month quite a month yeah and and then next week I'm actually going to uh to North Carolina to film an
00:48:12
episode of Blue Ridge which is a this is a a turning of the page for me I'm G to
00:48:17
play a guy who lives in the mountains and uh and what happens with me uh is yet to be yet to be discovered but um uh
00:48:25
that's a show that's that's led by John Sheek if you remember him from he was the head lead singer of the wonders in
00:48:31
that thing you do okay and he was also he was also the young hottie in a movie with one owner writer called American
00:48:36
Quilt back that was kind of his breakout back in the day remember that movie yep
00:48:40
he he also played Houdini in a TV movie of Houdini which and he was brilliant as
00:48:44
as that character uh and he also played Jonah Hex in um in the DC's oh gosh which which DC show was
00:48:51
that I'm so bad at these yeah I know I know right right so anyway so all my scenes are with him and I can't wait to
00:48:59
to play that out that's this coming week I'm going to be filming that so that'll
00:49:02
come out on the inspiration Channel and The Cowboy Way I think when it's when when their season two finally airs oh
00:49:08
that sounds awesome man you are busy yes that's we're doing it we're doing it this this month all good stuff getting
00:49:13
after it I love it yeah seriously well thank you again yeah thank you so much and again you are welcome anytime oh
00:49:22
bless you all thank you so much for having me I adore you too don't ever change okay adore you you either
00:49:27
okay okay loving you so much oh we love you so much thank you so much bye Doug well guys we hope you keep listening and
00:49:37
we hope you keep it weird unfortunately you'll never be able to keep it as cool as Doug Jones but
00:49:45
never I meant to say keep it as weird you'll never be as cool as and you'll never keep it as weird as Doug Jones
00:49:50
love you [Music] [Music] [Music] so please tell the children that Billy B werson loves them very much would you do
00:50:50
that for me amazing I was just going to ask you to do that all right thank you so much I appreciate it