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hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and this is morbid [Music] this is just morbid it just is it is
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it's just more really hard to say that I don't know I was trying to think of something else to say and that's all
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that came up I was also trying to think of something to say in the intro like and this is and then I was just like
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morbid just go in with it it's just morbid oh no I don't know we're tired it's a gloomy day here yeah I had a
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yucky tummy yesterday it still feels yucky which what's up with everyone's GI issues suddenly everyone's just dealing
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with living in a Land of GI issues and Gene welcome to my actual life but I was going strong on my IBS Journey for a
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minute there I was like living regular life and it was fine sorry my phone just came and I turned it off I swear you
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would think five years into this I would have figured that up I know but near me
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it's just like oh my gosh where's the ding I don't know no yeah your your journey was going pretty solid there I
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know I think it I think I got like a little tummy bug I don't think it's yeah everybody's got weird I was that um
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tick tocker Beach gem my girl my girl our pediatric emergency Doctor Who everybody should go follow because
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she's awesome fantastic amazing um world renowned I'm just gonna keep giving you Tick Tock recommendations
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you're good at it I find some good ones you absolutely do but um she was saying that it's like GI bugs this year are
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like everywhere and also like weird like there's like a million different ones it's not just straight up neurovirus now
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which like [ __ ] that [ __ ] yeah but these things are like different like they're
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all like the little branches off of norovirus yeah so I think it's just like maybe I think the pandemic like
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everyone's immune system's got a little [ __ ] during that yeah so I think we're
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just gonna see some weird viruses for a little while but hopefully it'll it'll settle down yeah I was just like run
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down and run into the bonyo I was going girl I'm sorry for that I'm sorry for your ass now that you know all
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my my GI business when GI B is nasty if you feel nasty do we have any Biz nasty you do we do oh there's a couple things
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we did a collab with red-handed and it was so much fun they're so awesome and their accents are the best
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like so soothing yeah guys Hannah's name is not Hannah it's Hannah it's Hannah and and I will fight anyone who else are
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Hannah Hannah Hannah and it's so fun to say it is Hannah and saruti oh they're just really sweet and they're hilarious
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who are the kindest girlies I would do collabs with them all day every day up the Wazoo you know but you just got one
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so don't worry we're not gonna bombard you but it was a lot of fun we're glad we did it check it out because we did
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kind of like a handoff so there's one on their feed one on our feed and they're really cool like old timey fun stories
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um but other than that go by uh your pre-order of the paperback version of The Butcher
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and the Wren because you know why there is a sneak peek at the sequel and I read it and I said oh my [ __ ]
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gosh that's what she said I did direct quotes so you can get a little sneaky peeky at
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the sequel so you can know what's going to be what you're in for or if you're like me you're currently reading along
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as she writes but yeah go get your pre-orders you can go pre-order them anywhere they're on
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like you know Barnes Noble Amazon anywhere you wanna yeah check it out I don't think it is tinyural.com butcher
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in the red anymore so it will be I think at one but it'll be with the new book oh
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okay but uh because I'm excited don't worry we'll give you another one of those yeah please please give me that
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but yeah go do that it'll be great and paperbacks are fun and you can just throw them in your bag or you can you
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know bend them around if you need to I love doing that and then the spine gets all crazy and yeah the spine gets all
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like like cracks like your spine does when you go to like a chiropractor yeah that yeah that's what it is so go check
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that out oh I'm excited to see it yay yay books and reading and literature and literacy and literacy you're you're I
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was gonna say you're a little under it but it sounded like you're illiterate yeah and you're like wow you're like the
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most literate thank you yeah some would argue that but you know [ __ ] them we don't listen to those
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they're not true so sorry I really had to readjust my seat there you hear the squeaky squeaky
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so it's like Secret s that's from Sabrina the Teenage the later years I can do it now too in later
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years you guys remember that don't worry we're gonna get into the case but no we're not sometimes we take it old
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school and we just need to like talk at you for a little while yeah just like get into it you know and it's funny
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because there's a we still there still is very divided camps on whether they want to hear us speak about being human
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beings or not um and that's funny to me but that does anyone remember the later years of
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Sabrina the Teenage Witch I bet you you wish you didn't but no I thought they were good like later High School ones
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we're good and like maybe the beginning of college but after that what do you mean I know I'll watch it
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like hi I'm here I'll watch it it's not my favorite those last couple ones it's almost like the last season of Gilmore
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Girls or the last couple of seasons of The Office yeah you lost me there you just I'll watch it because I'm here I'm
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here for this ride but like I'm not enjoying myself I know I love um I love Roxy though in the later years
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yeah she's a great one I think it's when Sabrina starts working at a newspaper that it gets that gets starts well she
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starts dating a guy that I'm very confused by to this Josh uh nope Josh I understood it was this other random I
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don't remember his name I don't remember either that's how much he matters maybe
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I didn't see the last season yeah I think it's the one she's gonna marry until oh no no no no okay yeah which is
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like thank goodness the heart yeah I love that but you know what that was Sabrina for
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today and now we're gonna talk about something not as fun at all nope not not at all but um this is like a pretty
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well-known True Crime case um and I know you guys like to hear like some more current ones so I figured I'd hand this
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on over to you this is the Amato family murders it's a really sad case and at the center of it
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is a man's named Grant Grant Tiernan Amato was born on May 20th 1989 in Chuluota Florida and if you look at that
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you would never think that it said chuliota but guess what I did I went to pronounced names.com and she told me how
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to say it and I said thank you I love that but anyway chuliota he was the youngest son of Chad and Margaret
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um a pharmacist and an operations manager respectively I really love saying respectively after a sentence I
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don't know about you effectively respectively now Margaret brought a son Jason to the marriage from her previous
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marriage and actually Chad wouldn't end up adopting Jason down the road oh okay I thought it was really sweet yeah but
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then the couple went on to have Cody the middle son and then finally Grant the youngest son okay now Margaret and Chad
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raise their family like I said in chulio to Florida it's like a semi small rural
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town in uh the Seminole County of Florida it's about half hour outside of Orlando okay which like I'm gonna be
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there soon and I'm like oh spooky not in chuliota that isn't Orlando Orlando but
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by all accounts the family Dynamic was a good one Chad and Margaret both like were able to maintain stable really
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well-paying jobs they could provide a good life for their children and they could also pursue their own passions and
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their own Hobbies outside of work and for Margaret I just think this is so sweet that hobby for her was her love of
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horses and she particularly loved this one horse named Lady Lady what a cute name for a horse right lady was actually
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a former racehorse that Margaret adopted in like the late 2000s and she'd been boarding lady at the Miracle Lane
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Stables not too far from their house okay now according to people that knew Margaret her relationship was with lady
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who was like a rather stubborn horse was really reflective of how she was so committed to the people that she loved
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especially like her husband and her children yeah she had an unwavering commitment to those people cute now
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while their household was generally loving and supportive Jason would later tell a jury that his father could be
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strict and had very high expectations for his children and this was occasionally a source of tension
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especially as the boy started entering their teenage years Grant and Cody though they were
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inseparable while growing up like they had a bond like no other they were really close in age there was just two
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years between them and they had a ton in common by the time they were in high school they went to um Timber Creek High
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if you're from the area they were doing almost everything together they were both on the school's weightlifting team
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in high school and even Beyond high school they still maintained like a super close relationship after
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graduation they both enrolled in nursing programs at the University of Central Florida and once they finished those
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nursing programs they wanted to continue their education so they each decided to
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study anesthesiology oh wow which like like all right you know and now according to grant their long-term plan
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included buying matching BMWs and living in their parents house together after Chad and Margaret moved to a smaller
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retirement home in Tennessee that they actually purchased a few years before their deaths so part of the plan
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was buying matching BMWs yes okay no comment yep it's giving Step Brothers yeah right like let's get matching BMWs
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and live in Mom and Dad's house when they move to Tennessee nurses Menendez brothers as well see I
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actually don't know a lot about that case yeah that's that's a that's an interesting one we'll cover that one
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eventually yeah I thought that's a u case for sure it's giving Menendez brothers in like one respect not in both
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respects one of these people is fantastic the other not so much ah yes yes now while their commitment for each
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other went both ways Cody definitely was the more responsible of the two and usually got Grant out of a lot of [ __ ]
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and would like clean up his messes solve his problems yeah you know because from
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the outside Grant seemed like he was you know successful and responsible and all
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that but things really took a turn in the mid 2000s I never know how to say that 2010s the 22 000 yeah there you go
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I don't know it's weird the 2010s because that was when Grant was kicked out of his graduate nursing
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program and instead found a nursing job with uh Advent Health a large hospital system in Central Florida okay it's sort
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of unclear why he was kicked out of the anesthesiology program at the University
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of Central Florida but that definitely is the event that marked the beginning of of a very downward spiral that would
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eventually lead to murder awesome so on June 21st 2018 staff at Advent Health actually realized that eight bottles of
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propofol which is a powerful sedative that they usually give people before surgery sedative oh my God idiot why
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can't they just talk no you shouldn't have let that go because it just sounded so cute sedated I'm reading maybe that
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is one way to say it who knows um I hope not I like sedative about it yeah sedative that they give people before
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surgery they realize eight bottles had gone missing from the locked cabinet where they usually kept it now the empty
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bottles were found a short time later in two rooms that were being overseen by Grant
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as far as anybody could tell the medication hadn't been ordered and security records showed that it was
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Grant who checked the medication yeah so when he was confronted about this whole thing he swore up and down no I
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wasn't stealing it to sell it because they probably thought that that's what was happening there
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but instead he told them quote he administered the drug to patients who were not being adequately relaxed oh
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okay so all right slightly understandable but like you can't just like like you can't for no reason to
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tell anyone so the hospital had no proof of any wrongdoing but they also believed that
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this was not the first time propofol in particular had gone missing under Grant's watch so he was fired
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immediately yeah I can kind of see that now what made the entire ordeal worse was that during the confrontation over
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the missing medication Grant made a ton of comments about relating to self-harm and suicidal ideation so they had to
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call the police and he was he had to be taken into custody as like a protective measure yeah now at the time Advent
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Health administrators seemed to be intent on planning or uh seemed seemed to be intent on pressing charges for the
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theft of the medication so now Grant was unemployed and he was waiting to hear whether he was going to
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face charges for uh grand larceny so he started spending a lot of time online uh-oh I guess that's what you do
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it's not it's not great and he was never leads to good things no he wasn't on like ziprecruiter.com looking for a job
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sponsor us um because that was just a little drop there there you go but he was frequently
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visiting porn sites and he really loved to use twitch for watching lives and gaming so he's just gaming okay doing
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stuff in his room yeah you know you know he actually told his parents though not
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long after he was fired that he really wanted to build a career for himself as a live streamer on Twitch okay which you
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know I'm like I'm sure you could probably make good money doing that but I think back then that was a relatively
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new platform so that might have been a little worrisome to us I could see that I'm sure like the YouTube thing in the
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beginning too when somebody's like when it first came out and people were like I'm gonna be a YouTube star people were
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probably like yeah yeah like that's never gonna happen but now look it really came now look so at the same time
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though because they were they were starting to get worried about about Grand because at the same time Chad and
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Margaret had been noticing large amounts of money missing from their bank accounts and multiple credit card
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charges from websites that they'd never heard of so when they confronted Grant about this missing money he actually
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spilled the beans he admitted everything and said he had taken the money and he had used it to promote himself on Twitch
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okay which wasn't necessarily that's not great no either way that's not great well don't steal money that's something
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like you can't use people's money to do those things no you got to use your own money yeah now or you could ask for a
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loan because that's also an option there you go if you do want to use other people's money you just ask first
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precisely now what Chad and Margaret didn't know about they were about to find out was that Grant hadn't taken the
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money to help build his career he really was spending it on private shows and conversations with a cam girl named
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Sylvia Sylvie vencislavova hopefully okay now Grant had been spending a lot of time on
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Sylvie's site in particular and her site operated by like users would buy tokens
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that they could use to pay for performances and her performances cost 90 tokens per minute oh which like damn
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some coins damn girl now tokens could also be used for tipping and like any kind of other transaction on the site I
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don't really know how it works but Grant event was probably Sylvie's most generous customer and he would purchase
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5 000 tokens a night for six hundred dollars and he was spending about four hours every single night on this website
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oh he was developing I was just in the fashion that's becoming a problem yeah and as his addiction to the website got
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worse and worse he started sending Sylvie quote clothes and sex toys which she would model for viewers but he's not
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spending like he's spending his parents money on these things to send to the school that's the thing it's like this
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is not okay no it's one thing if you're sending it like with your own money like
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have at it yeah like you whatever you're I don't care into but like you're taking
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your parents yeah you can't take other people's money and do these things and also like you don't feel yakayaka about
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using your parents money for this yeah like I would I would feel yucky yeah that's just me I don't know there's I
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don't need that's just me yeah we don't have to go into it I was like I'm about to go into it and then I was like you
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know what now so so over time Grant's relationship with Sylvie came to include chat sessions they were texting and like
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other Communications like the performances and stuff like that it did give the illusion of a personal
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relationship because that's the point but in reality Sylvie was just promoting herself and obviously encouraging Grant
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to spend more money yeah because that's her job of course Girls Gotta Eat yeah on grandson of things though the
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constant contact and the emotional high was enough to convince him that he was deeply in love with Sylvie oh no and for
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that reason he kept stealing money in order to keep in close contact with her oh this is really stressful it's really
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sad it's so sad that's the thing it's like very stressful and sad yeah so the more money he had to spend the closer he
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felt to her now the illusion of a romantic connection between Grant and Sylvie was mostly fueled by the
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performances the texts the chats like I was just saying but it was also kind of fostered by this online community on the
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cam girl site because Grant wasn't only chatting with Sylvie but he actually made friends on this site and he was
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catfishing all of these people leading them to believe that he was this super successful gamer guy who drove a BMW and
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owned this beautiful house when in reality none of that was true he didn't live in a beautiful house but it was his
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parents yeah exactly in a letter he wrote to five or six friends about a month before his whole family was
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murdered he vented about his family calling them controlling and complaining that they quote did not understand how I
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could care for someone as much as I cared for Sylvie oh this really is sad it is now by the
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fall of 2018 so remember this started like in like the 2010s now it's 2018. this has been going a while Grant had
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retreated even further into this fantasy world he was stealing more money from his parents now he was stealing from his
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brother Cody to continue this relationship and when he wasn't able to get hands on their cash he would steal
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their belongings Cody had some guns that Grant ended up stealing and selling for
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cash oh this is like very real addiction oh it's like very deep and very real addiction super real yeah and around the
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same time he also managed to take out a 65 000 loan using his parents house as collateral
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holy [ __ ] isn't that Bonkers what like there is this is so intense it's so deep rooted oh my goodness so
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the family finally reached their breaking point in late November at that point Grant had stolen around a hundred
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and fifty thousand dollars from his parents and sixty thousand dollars from Cody his brother [ __ ] so they sat down
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and confronted him they were like we need to figure this out like this isn't okay and this is so unhinged that it's
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like that must have been really scary to set him down and be like this can't happen because you're like
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what is he gonna do it's gotten to a point where clearly he'll do anything something is yeah like he's got No
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Boundaries here so I'd be scared yeah so when they confronted him he admitted that no he wasn't just promoting himself
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on Twitch he really was stealing money to send to Sylvie the Bulgarian model that he was in love with he said so the
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family tried to be supportive because they realized what this was he was struggling with addiction and with their
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support he actually started to get serious about getting his life together and you know like getting healthier yeah
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so things really started to improve in early December Advent Health actually dropped the charges against grant for
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the stolen medication wow so now he wasn't facing those charges anymore that's lucky for him really lucky and he
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and Cody had been planning this trip for a long time to go to Japan they had planned it like before he lost his job
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and Cody was like let's still go like let's still go on the trip we'll figure it out wow so they went on the trip
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together wow so he had like a very supportive unit around like one way more supportive than a lot of families would
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be abso [ __ ] weekly like he he had these people hands back and especially his brother and that's very rare
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but unfortunately by the time they got back home Grant seemed to be slipping into old habits just days after they got
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back from their trip to Japan Grant and his dad got into another argument about the stolen money and the fact that Grant
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was saying he was going to get a new job but not making any moves to do so because I think his dad was like dude
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like you just got home from this trip that you probably shouldn't have even gone on in the first place and now
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you're just like lounging around my house all day like yeah it's time to get a job it's time to start paying back the
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money because he's like 30. yeah come on like like get it together get it together yeah in in the regard of like
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look for a job yeah like be an adult exactly like so Grant would later say of his father quote with him it was every
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single day hours a day he'd come home from work and then he just talked to me about the same exact thing over and over
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and over and over again like yeah probably because they wanted you to better your life and as your
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father he's concerned and when you're making no move to better your life they're gonna keep saying the same thing
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hoping that sometime it clicks right because you're just doing the same thing over and over and over and over they
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feel like they're banging their heads against the wall we're they're all in the same boat yeah now a few days later
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on December 19th the attention caused yet another fight between Chad and Grant and this time Grant stormed out of the
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house and didn't say where he was going now in the weeks leading up to this latest fight the family had actually
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started going to family therapy together oh wow and Grant was said to express during these meetings quote strong
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feelings of worthlessness and at one point he quote broke down emotionally and admitted to being
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severely depressed okay and he hadn't said anything about wanting to harm himself but because he was clearly in
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this like heightened emotional state when he left the house after the fight with his Dad Cody and Margaret were
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really worried I see that especially when he still didn't come home the next day they were like I don't know like
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yeah I would have been feeling about this yeah they were like he's in a low place he left in the middle of a fight
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like we don't we're very worried and he's been very unpredictable he's very much not himself very erratic exactly a
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lot of like very you know he's being very um impulsive yeah like for a while now so it's like I would be worried and
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we and we love him you know like that's the brother and there's a supportive family it sounds like they are so they
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decided the best course of action would be to file a missing persons report just
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to find out where he was according to the missing person report Cody and Margaret told officers that
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Grant had been in contact via text since they reported him missing and that he told them he was quote really tired of
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dealing with everything and he is just gonna handle it his own way which worried them even more yeah
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because given the stress that he'd been under and the fact that he had easy access to fire home Firearms excuse me
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in the family home Cody and Margaret were at this point quote a hundred percent convinced that Grant would try
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to harm himself no so the day after the missing persons report was filed the Seminole County
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Sheriff's Office got a call from an officer in Apopka I believe is how you say it Florida uh saying that Grant
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actually had been located luckily and when officers responded to the call about a suspicious car they found that
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it was registered to Grant a motto that's how they found him when they spoke to them he said he came
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to Apopka to visit family and then told them that he needed a break from his mom
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and he had no intentions of hurting himself he was like you have nothing to worry about I just needed to get out of
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here for a while yeah so the interviewing officer asked the standard questions about safety and self-harm and
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was able to determine that Grant didn't need any kind of psycho Val like he was all right
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and it turned out though that after the fight with his father Grant had gone to his aunt Donna's home and she would
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later tell police he showed up quote skinny and lost looking and that he slept all day since he arrived and she
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was worried about him now while she originally thought that he probably had come to her in a time of
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need he was really just scamming her yeah I could have seen that a few days after Grant show had shown up at the
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door Donna noticed strange and unfamiliar charges to her credit card in large large sums of money and this poor
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lady is just trying to just meditate just trying to be in a good family member and she's not by marriage too oh
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so she didn't even like she had no like you know her obligations were pretty small here right she really took damn
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this guy sucks like this is so mean it is it's due to people who care about you to [ __ ] over
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your family like this yeah like it's just like this lady is taking you into her home like that's really shitty
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exactly now knowing that the situation was getting touchier and touchier by the day Donna decided that it would be
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better to speak with Cody Grant's brother than confront Grant head on smart so she called Cody and told them
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everything that had happened and he was so apologetic so embarrassed and also begged his aunt not to press charges and
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actually told her he would pay back his aunt whatever Grant had charged me like he was like if you don't press charges I
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will pay this back to you like please like we're trying to get him straight like we're trying to make this work so
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precarious time a very precarious time Chad also begged his sister-in-law not to press charges and he actually broke
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down crying over the entire situation and it was quote the first time Donna said she had heard him cry in the 27
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years she knew him oh my God that breaks my heart just like so stressed yeah and
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he explained to her the full extent of Grant's problems and he confided and Donna that he and Margaret actually had
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to re-mortgage their home oh my God in order to cover the 150 000 that had been stolen from them
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I can't imagine what this poor family was going through it must have just been hell and it was years of this yeah like
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just years and ups and downs like oh yeah exactly and it was like just when they thought he was getting better he
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goes and [ __ ] over like it's one and I'm sure it's one thing for him to [ __ ]
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them over like you're angry about that but then you're like oh my God you're you're my child and you're capable of
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doing this too you're taking an extended family exactly and like the embarrassment and the shame and the
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shock like that's awful I can't imagine now according to Donna Chad told her yeah I'm gonna have to work a few more
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years than I thought I'd have to but it's okay I'll do it for Grant I don't want him to go to jail oh my God yeah
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I don't even know what to say mm-hmm it was clear that the stress was taking a considerable toll on everybody but
00:28:01
especially Chad at that point he had to take on a second job just to cover Grant's debts so that his son wouldn't
00:28:08
go to jail that breaks my heart I'm looking at pictures of this family and I'm just
00:28:13
like oh right and that's like love like the love that he had for his son like that's the thing it's like that's
00:28:19
straight up just loving your kid unconditionally just wanting to [ __ ] and I know they're like probably shielding a
00:28:26
lot and it's like but you just want to you want to feel any harm even if they're the ones doing harm you want to
00:28:32
Shield them I mean we've even seen it in our own family of course people and I've
00:28:36
seen it in other people's families like it's family so sad you know and he was the youngest too so I feel like that
00:28:43
plays such a role like it's your it's actually oh yeah maybe that's definitely part of it and that's the thing as far
00:28:48
as everybody could tell the Yamato family was going to incredible lengths in some people's opinions maybe even too
00:28:54
far of course to Shield Grant from the consequences of his actions but at the same time they were also trying to
00:29:01
create and enforce boundaries but as we know it's impossible in a situation yeah
00:29:07
there's no way of knowing how to deal with this kind of situation no because there's no right or wrong way there's no
00:29:14
handbook on it there's everybody reacts different in these kind of situations he's so incredibly addicted to this that
00:29:21
it's like it could be any reaction Under the Sun that could happen and there's no
00:29:26
way to predict it exactly you know like you might come at him nicely and that might piss him off right you might come
00:29:32
at him aggressively and that's the thing that calms them down you have no idea it's just like raising kids like how you
00:29:37
have to like treat each how you react to each one exactly but so that they were going to these incredible
00:29:46
links to create all these foundries but stealing from the extended family from Donna and Troy Yamato was the last straw
00:29:53
for Margaret and Chad yeah and on December or excuse me no don't excuse me I was saying the right thing but excuse
00:29:59
her anyways and just excuse just excuse me another one that's funny but on December
00:30:05
22nd the entire family surprised Grant with an intervention in Donna's driveway among other things they insisted that he
00:30:12
take responsibility for the mistakes that he'd made and they demanded him they were like it's come to the point
00:30:17
where you need to check yourself into rehab yeah like we've got to figure this out absolutely so he ultimately agreed
00:30:24
to checking himself into a clinic in South Florida and he was going to be uh addressing his addiction to sex and
00:30:30
pornography okay so Grant returned home from Rehab on January 5th 2019 after less than two weeks of treatment
00:30:39
and in addition to the more than two hundred thousand dollars at this point that he'd stolen from his parents and
00:30:45
brother he racked up several more debts that he had no means of paying on top of the ten thousand dollars he
00:30:53
paid so that the two could take the trip to Japan Cody agreed to cover eight thousand dollars in accrued attorney's
00:31:00
fees and the fifteen thousand dollar bill for the stay at the South Florida rehab
00:31:06
his brother sat there and took all of that on for him and when you uh I keep looking at the pictures and I'm like he
00:31:13
does have like Cody has such a kind face I mean he was in like a nurse like he was missing like he's just like a good
00:31:19
person absolutely a good person like rips my heart out everything that he was willing to do to keep his brother
00:31:27
who didn't give a [ __ ] yeah exactly like oh so similarly Chad the father had allowed the fraudulent 65 000 on the
00:31:36
house to go through uncontested oh come on quote so it wouldn't be reported because they figured this would give
00:31:44
Grant a clean slate to start over but there was going to be changes and expectations if that was going to be the
00:31:51
case but at the same time it's like maybe if you would let some of this go through and he had gotten in real
00:31:57
trouble mm-hmm like maybe that's sometimes that's what people need I'm not saying it would have stopped
00:32:01
anything I'm just saying sometimes you gotta let some tough love Yeah slip through there especially to a 30 year
00:32:07
old it's like absolutely I think he needed that but I can but it's easy to say that from over here if that's your
00:32:14
own kid no [ __ ] way totally you know what I mean but like looking at it from the outside you're like just let him get
00:32:19
in trouble and you know but like I've seen it in families where the person doing this or the person you know
00:32:24
struggling with addiction is like 50 60. parents will still do anything oh yeah that's no matter what so many families
00:32:32
have this happening in various forms and various degrees like I feel like more families do have this going on than yeah
00:32:41
and that's so sad yeah it's really sad oh and you never think that as a parent that you're going to be you know 70 or
00:32:49
like moving into retirement age right and this is what you're going to be dealing with because that's the thing to
00:32:55
prepare like I said like they they were preparing to retire in Tennessee they bought a home that they wanted to retire
00:33:00
in like and it's like usually and then they had to take off because you've done your the hardest part of your job right
00:33:07
raise them exactly but but this is where God even hurts my heart so Grant comes home from rehab early like did not get
00:33:16
the treatment that he should have and the family decides that they're going to have dinner at a California
00:33:21
Pizza Kitchen which like great [ __ ] decision I love California Pizza I do too actually I haven't had that in a
00:33:26
long time me either me and Drew used to go on dates there all the time when I worked in Boston because there was one
00:33:32
like right there [ __ ] good wow but this one probably wasn't that great so the evening after he returned home they
00:33:39
head over to California Pizza Kitchen probably thinking like a public place will be a better place to have this
00:33:43
discussion and Chad laid out a series of rules and expectations that he had written up for his son it was like a two
00:33:50
P two pages on a yellow legal pad okay among other things Grant was expected to uh get a job during the day
00:33:58
how terrible I was just gonna say already [ __ ] it right discontinue his use of the internet past midnight which
00:34:05
like okay you're in my [ __ ] house well in it you have proven that you can't be trusted with it right so we do
00:34:10
have to give you a boundary and it's it's for your own good that's the thing he needed to um begin paying for his own
00:34:18
cell phone bill this is such basic [ __ ] he needed to develop a plan to pay back the money
00:34:24
he's stolen from his family members very rational go to regular therapy apologize
00:34:30
and make right with the people he'd stolen from all great and most importantly he needed to sever his
00:34:36
relationship quote unquote with Sylvie immediately it's like all of that you can see that's negotiating right that
00:34:44
last one I'm sure was the the non-negotiable one totally yeah so the document it also highlighted the reasons
00:34:51
for the new set of rules it stated that quote Grant through his past transaction
00:34:56
excuse me transgressions has relied on knowledge the family would not report him and cover him yeah and it accused
00:35:03
him of quote family relationship abuse beyond beyond tolerance that's 100 how to describe it too family relationship
00:35:10
abuse because it is knowing that they will not do anything and using that to your own Advantage absolutely and it
00:35:18
hinted at the hurt that he'd caused the family around him Chad's document pointed out quote you chose a stranger
00:35:24
physically non-existent over your entire family that's the part that's like in the way
00:35:31
that that that said is really hit you hard because it's true yeah I mean it's like there's really no other way to
00:35:39
describe that but it's it it's so [ __ ] because like to us we're sitting here like it's a girl on a website but to him
00:35:45
but his mind was in such an altered state because of the addiction that he oh yeah he formed you know yeah that's
00:35:53
why it must be so wild like for them to be sitting there it's probably so frustrating for them because it's very
00:36:00
clear and logical that statement right but to hand it to him Sylvie was his girlfriend yeah as far as he's concerned
00:36:08
you're severing a the most important relationship in his life exactly which it's like that's why that's why
00:36:14
therapists and psychiatrists and mental health facilities exist because they know how to deal with that kind of
00:36:21
thinking right like normal people are not supposed to like everyday people I mean like your family right are not
00:36:26
supposed to know how to deal with like I don't know making the effort to try to understand
00:36:37
exactly and that's what like therapy is for it's like you really but he needed some I believe therapy I feel like this
00:36:44
family is like the like the poster children of like what you should do I know because it seems like they were
00:36:50
doing everything they could like they were trying to keep him out of trouble so that they could handle it as a family
00:36:56
they were going to therapy they sent him to rehab they paid for the rehab they laid out what he needed to do and then
00:37:02
laid out why he needed to do it when they had no need to do that no it was pretty clear why he needed to do all
00:37:08
those things but they took the extra step to be like this is why we are asking this of you that's huge and I
00:37:13
feel like and that even shows like all the work that they did with behavioral specialists because I was gonna say that
00:37:19
does seem like very much a tool that you would get through like you know therapy
00:37:23
or treatment exactly it's like you need to explain why you are requiring these things of this person it's like small
00:37:29
child like a form of respect I'm asking you to do this you should know why right
00:37:33
you know and it's like kids it's like yeah when you're teaching them like you can't do this because this will happen
00:37:38
because this is the reason I'm not just asking you to do this you know but it would be it was made clear to Grant
00:37:44
during the meeting that if he broke any of the rules or any of those expectations he would be kicked out of
00:37:49
the house immediately like this was this was the final yeah we've reached the end
00:37:53
game here exactly so he agreed to the terms during the meeting but it's pretty unlikely that he ever had any intention
00:38:00
of following through yeah with that promise to change his behavior in a letter sent to his friends from the cam
00:38:06
girl website he referred to his father as controlling and abusive and claimed that his mother was quote simply around
00:38:13
for security oh God which I'm like you don't know what you're talking about it's ridiculous and the letter also
00:38:19
hinted at just uh desperation and discouragement that he felt over the ultimatum he told his friends I hate
00:38:26
myself for what I did and I hate the thought of Never Getting to be with her again meaning Sylvie
00:38:31
after everything that I gave and everything that I tried to do with her I just can't comprehend being without her
00:38:36
seeing her be able to be so happy without me in her life is something I guys something I hope you guys never
00:38:42
have to live through wow this is so so deep it really is so it's unknown whether the letter raised
00:38:51
any red flags in Grant's online porn Community but if it did nobody took the alarming tone or the obvious desperation
00:38:59
seriously enough yeah to contact which happens a lot of course yeah that's why online is just not safe no it's really
00:39:06
not but at the same time nobody ever could have expected that his frustration of course not would manifest into what
00:39:12
it did a very short time later just after nine o'clock on the morning of January 25th the Seminole County
00:39:19
Sheriff's Office got a call from Craig Cisco an administrator actually at Advent health
00:39:25
he was one of the multiple employees who were really concerned after Cody had failed to show up for work that morning
00:39:31
because remember they worked together before Grant got fired Cody also wasn't responding to any of
00:39:37
the calls placed to him by co-workers it was entirely unlike him I don't know and according to Cisco Cody quote had
00:39:44
never missed a day of work oh no no because it was so out of character his co-workers were requesting
00:39:51
a well-being check so the deputies arrived at the Yamato house on Sultan Circle just shortly
00:39:57
after taking the call and they found Cody's car parked in the driveway as well as Chad and Margaret's cars parked
00:40:03
in the garage they continuously knocked on the door but nobody was coming to answer
00:40:08
so when their knocks on the door failed to get anybody's attention officers called the cell phones of the three
00:40:14
people inside believed to be home and actually even blasted air horns in an attempt to get their attention yeah but
00:40:21
nothing so as far as they could tell the windows and the doors were locked so one
00:40:26
Deputy ended up having to use a knife to disengage the deadbolt on the back door
00:40:31
and the officers went into the home to conduct the wellness check now when you can't get in like that you
00:40:37
must I wonder what those like investigators were thinking because when you can't get in like that you have to
00:40:42
be like we are not we're coming into something good exactly you know and they were not as soon as they walked in the
00:40:49
house deputies immediately discovered the body of chadamato this is really brutal just so you guys
00:40:55
know the discovery of these bodies is rough okay he was lying on his back in the kitchen it was clear that there was
00:41:00
no signs of life he'd been shot twice in the head and it was lying in a large pool of his own
00:41:06
blood there was actually a holster around his waist when he was discovered with a handgun tucked inside but it
00:41:13
didn't look like he'd tried to retrieve it before he was shot oh man so they moved throughout the house and they
00:41:19
found Cody's body next this is horrible he was curled into a fetal position in the storage room off
00:41:27
of the garage and he had been shot in the face and was covered in blood he was still wearing his nursing scrubs
00:41:35
indicating that he just got back from work oh my God and like his father a handgun was discovered on the floor just
00:41:43
a few feet from his body oh then the officers found Margaret last she was lying face down at her computer in the
00:41:50
family's office she had been shot in the back of the head and there was blood covering her entire face
00:41:57
so to the responding officers the house seemed neat and orderly other than what they had just found in there were a lot
00:42:03
of valuable items easily visible throughout the house but nothing seemed to be missing so they were pretty much
00:42:09
able to rule robbery out right off the bat and investigators obviously suspected that the motivation was
00:42:15
execution because the evidence at the scene pretty much showed that yeah so crime scene technicians noted that
00:42:23
Cody had barely made it into the garage when he'd been shot meaning that the killer did not hesitate to pull the
00:42:30
trigger as soon as he got the opportunity to and evident chilling it's so chilling
00:42:35
evidence collected from the kitchen seemed to indicate that Chad had been shot while standing but the second shot
00:42:41
was delivered quote execution style while he was on the kitchen floor near the center Island
00:42:48
and Margaret had been taken out similarly because she was also shot in the back of the head execution Style
00:42:54
so the picture to investigators was becoming clear whoever killed this family had come to the house with that
00:43:01
exact purpose and no other purpose yeah whatsoever so the deputies had been dispatched to
00:43:07
the home actually less than a month earlier so they knew that there was another occupant of this house but when
00:43:13
they arrived he that person wasn't home Grant and neither was his car so Ebola alert be on the lookout was
00:43:22
immediately issued for Grant even though at the time it was unclear whether he was a suspect a victim or neither
00:43:28
and investigators also started pulling toll records for his toll transponder okay which showed him driving Eastbound
00:43:35
in the morning then westbound in the afternoon but other than that they were unable to locate him
00:43:42
so you know what's going on mm-hmm so his absence in the house became even more suspicious when the investigators
00:43:49
spoke to Cody's girlfriend Sloane she told them all about the issues that had been going on between Grant and the rest
00:43:56
of the family and according to Sloan Cody had become concerned about Grant's unstable behavior in the weeks leading
00:44:03
up to the murders okay she said he quote was afraid that Grant would kill everyone
00:44:08
like he was literally worried about it that that was even a thought I think because he was getting more and more
00:44:15
unhinged as like the days and weeks went on Wow can you imagine having that at be
00:44:21
an actual fear of yours absolutely about your own flesh and blood like being like
00:44:26
I am legitimately scared that they are going to kill everyone in this family I can't even imagine like I can't even I
00:44:33
must have gotten to such a point and she also told the officers that she had been
00:44:37
at work with Cody on January 24th the day before the family was discovered he got a call from his father a little
00:44:44
after nine and his Chad said to Cody like you need to come home like something's wrong yeah and when Sloane
00:44:50
asked Cody what was going on all he said was stupid [ __ ] [ __ ] and then he left work because he's probably so sick
00:44:56
of it so absolutely you know like it was probably just like daily oh it had you know so he's probably like Jesus and
00:45:03
when you're not the one creating all the issues and you're like yanked into it every time exactly something I can't
00:45:09
imagine he must have just been so frustrated but a half hour after that she texted Cody to check in and she was
00:45:16
like Hey like is everything okay and he said oh okay you didn't need to worry which like so sad oh and that was the
00:45:24
last time they spoke so when he didn't show up for work the next morning that was when she and Chris Cisco got
00:45:30
concerned and requested the well-being truck oh man so while a team of officers interviewed friends and Associates of
00:45:37
the Yamato's detective James Galena Galena and uh lilium a grinsoni I believe okay spoke with Jason Amato and
00:45:48
let him know and that's the oldest brother yeah let him know that quote three unidentified bodies had been
00:45:53
discovered in his home okay or in the amount of home he didn't together so Jason explained to the investigators
00:45:59
that while he was Cody's emergency contact on most forms he really didn't speak much with their family or engage
00:46:05
with them very much he said The only person that he talked to regularly was his mother and they spoke every week
00:46:11
okay he confirmed what Sloane had told police about Grant's thefts and destructive Behavior he knew all about
00:46:18
that and when they asked whether he could think of anybody who might want to harm the family Jason told them about
00:46:23
Grant's relationship with Sylvie and he mentioned you know Grant gets mail from her sometimes so she has our address
00:46:30
like or she has their address yeah so that became like oh kind of like another layer to this story like oh is it her
00:46:37
like are they together like yeah they have to think of all these things so the next morning Grant's Car was located by
00:46:43
the Orange County sheriff's deputies in the parking lot of a DoubleTree hotel in
00:46:46
Orlando according to Hotel staff he had checked in the day before which was January 25th
00:46:52
he checked in just after 2 30 in the afternoon and he only registered himself for one day he was scheduled to check
00:46:59
out the next afternoon so quick quick yeah now as officers were speaking with the front desk staff he actually came
00:47:08
out of his room and was confronted by the deputies wow crazy wow so he eventually agreed to
00:47:17
return to the Sheriff's Office for a formal interview wow Bonkers I mean they would have got
00:47:22
him anyway but the fact that he just came out of his room crazy yeah during their interview he confirmed that he had
00:47:27
met Sylvie six months earlier and since then he'd been talking to her regularly and sending her tons and tons of money
00:47:35
he told detectives that he initially agreed to the ultimatum that he got from his dad when he had gotten back from
00:47:40
rehab but then he felt that the rules were very unfair quote because he believed Sylvie was his girlfriend and
00:47:47
they had a relationship it's like very unfair yeah you know what I think is unfair the fact that your
00:47:54
parents had to remortgage their home yeah because you stole that much money from them I'd say that's pretty unfair I
00:48:00
would say so now according to Grant his dad found out that he was still speaking with Sylvie
00:48:05
and on the evening of the 24th they got into an explosive fight over the relationship Grant said his dad grabbed
00:48:12
him by the shirt and demanded that he'd get out of the house so he was able to scoop up some of his
00:48:17
belongings and then he said he got out of there he said he was driving down the street and he met Cody and Cody told him
00:48:23
like oh I'll go straighten things out with Mom and Dad and like come back later like I'll figure it out for you
00:48:29
but he said that was the last time he saw or spoke to any of his family members so the just the detectives were like
00:48:36
okay yeah like cool cool like one problem with your story though Cody was working that night so you didn't run
00:48:43
into each other oof yeah didn't think of that did you like you didn't run into each other by chance on the side of the
00:48:48
road like yeah claimed no so Grant was like oh sorry I was lying oh yeah oops but I'm
00:48:55
gonna thank you for reminding me that I was lying I'm gonna tell you the truth yeah like I'm of course you are not that
00:49:00
I actually didn't leave home right away I waited for Cody to get back home you know like my dad just let that happen
00:49:06
yeah we got this explosive fight oh yeah and then he got home and I told him everything and that's when he said he
00:49:12
would talk to our parents and I left and no of course I haven't been back yet no
00:49:16
and he said he's like I got that wrong my bad sorry it was like he was at home it was the side of the road yeah I took
00:49:22
the same it's crazy yeah he told them it was around midnight that he left and that he spent the night in his car in
00:49:28
the parking lot of a Publix grocery store so he then told them that he had every
00:49:34
intention to return home the next morning and he actually started heading that way and he got to his neighborhood
00:49:40
but at the last second he changed his mind and he decided you know what I'm not ready to go back down yet but he did
00:49:45
get to the neighborhood so the detectives were like oh like did you see anything unordinate or like out of the
00:49:51
ordinary like the morning because that that could have been when it happened like did you see anything crazy yeah and
00:49:57
he was like no nothing sucks at all hmm but of course the detectives knew that a wild had he actually returned to
00:50:04
the neighborhood that morning he would have seen several police cruisers and news Vans parked outside of the house
00:50:09
which um would certainly qualify as out of the ordinary or at the very least memorable to me I was just gonna say I
00:50:16
think that would be something that I would mention like hey there was this crazy thing yeah that I saw so they
00:50:21
pushed back with that they were like that's weird that you didn't see all the news Vans and like the police like the
00:50:26
presents that's wild crazy and he was like oh I'm so sorry I just keep lying like I'm gonna tell you the truth again
00:50:33
though sorry about that I did see those cop cars and the News fans and that's why I left oh okay he's like thank you
00:50:40
for reminding me of that as well I totally forgot that I saw this but I did yeah and then I was like I did so the
00:50:45
detectives were like you saw all that like most innocent people stumbling upon a scene like that on their front lawn
00:50:51
would want to make sure everyone in their house was safe and unhurt like you didn't yeah and Grant was just like I
00:50:57
don't know I don't know what to say he's like you know what I don't have an answer for
00:51:01
that he just told them once he left the area he went to a local fast food restaurant to use their Wi-Fi and when
00:51:06
he did he checked a local news site and that's how he learned there was a shooting in his neighborhood wow a
00:51:12
shooting okay and when asked again why he didn't feel compelled to check on the family he told the officers
00:51:18
I just didn't want to know wow like you're you're something you are the worst liar
00:51:27
I have ever heard in my entire life truly yeah so he was interviewed like this for hours and hours and hours by
00:51:33
the Seminole County Sheriff's detectives and throughout most of their interview all wow I just got really I was just
00:51:39
gonna say damn you've got real bosses that was wild yeah all Grant did was make himself look more suspicious and
00:51:45
after more than three hours of the conversation Grant still hadn't asked detectives what had happened to his
00:51:51
family you want to know what happened no and he still didn't seem too alarmed by the
00:52:06
situation at all wow okay so detective uh maltari was getting more and more convinced that this is their guy clearly
00:52:13
yeah and he was really hoping to get a confession though because of course that's what you need yeah so she placed
00:52:19
or sorry I had said he earlier she uh placed multiple crime scene photos of Cody's body in front of Grant and
00:52:26
directly asked quote did you leave the house with your brother Cody looking like that [ __ ]
00:52:31
and Grant covered his face but gave no response so multari then produced crime scenes of Chad and Margaret and said or
00:52:38
did you leave the house with your father looking like that or your mother is that
00:52:42
how you left your family damn and Grant glanced at the photos before covering his face again saying no I didn't do any
00:52:49
of this wow like looked back at them and was like initially he suggested it could have
00:52:56
been a murder-suicide and he tried to blame Cody are you kidding me the person that was there for him through
00:53:07
everything oh that pisses me off through wrestling through some type of way through work through their trip to Japan
00:53:14
through the [ __ ] craziness with Aunt Donna there through rehab through all of it the best brother you could literally
00:53:21
ever ask for or even dream up to be quite honest it must have been Cody and then he must have just turned the gun on
00:53:27
himself oh my God what an actual piece of human [ __ ] [ __ ] like that's where I'm like [ __ ] yeah like this like
00:53:36
obviously you're a [ __ ] murderer like go [ __ ] yourself and you had to twist it
00:53:41
at the end there you really had to do that and it's like dude Cody was found in the fetal position barely in the
00:53:47
house and evidence that doesn't even make sense evidence showed you didn't even hesitate before you shot your
00:53:53
brother brother in the face what a piece of [ __ ] your own flesh and blood what a
00:53:58
piece of [ __ ] shot him in the face like wow you're disgusting truly because it's
00:54:03
one thing to steal money from people when you're going through addiction like that's not okay but I understand you're
00:54:08
suffering it's a very different thing to shoot people in the face oh yeah I would
00:54:12
say so that's holy [ __ ] on another level yeah piece of [ __ ] so the detectives
00:54:17
were like yeah no like straight up monster no that doesn't work like that so then he admitted you know I know I
00:54:24
have all the motives I have all the means to carry out this murder but I didn't do it like I know it looks that
00:54:30
way but I didn't do it so the detectives were like if it's not you then who would
00:54:35
have done this and he said that it's not you too right he said I don't know I've
00:54:40
been getting blamed blamed for the last half a year for everything and I've been
00:54:44
trying to move forward in a positive direction and then every day I'm reminded of all the trouble I caused and
00:54:49
then I keep being told the same thing over and over again that there's nothing I can do to change it
00:54:55
is how old is he again like 30 like in his 30s okay so he's not six no okay no just checking he's not because like
00:55:03
really really like every day everybody in the same stuff because I steal money from
00:55:09
them it's like what the [ __ ] it's like yeah okay yeah people are pissed now you're talking about your dead family by
00:55:15
the way yeah like if you're reading it on your brother who did everything for you that is so the fact that he was so
00:55:23
willing to turn around and be like probably Cody it's like so crazy to me [ __ ] dude you are like bottom of the
00:55:29
barrel piece of [ __ ] legit like you couldn't even say some stranger came in there you blamed Cody right what the
00:55:36
[ __ ] like that is what a coward on another level but at the same time detectives felt like they
00:55:42
were super close to getting a confession because they're poking oh yeah and they're like we're gonna get there so
00:55:48
what they did was they ended up contacting his older brother Jason and they were like why don't we get the two
00:55:53
of you in a room together and you confront him I know so Jason goes in the room and
00:55:59
immediately asks Grant whether he had anything to do with it and Grant said no I have nothing to do with it and Grant
00:56:05
told him I want or excuse me Jason told him I want to believe you grant but you're the last person I can put in that
00:56:10
house and I know what happened over the last six months I can understand that that trouble that you've been going
00:56:16
through but it's hard for me to think you would break to this point yeah so they had a 15-minute conversation as
00:56:22
detectives watched and they could tell it was clear that Jason didn't believe Grant's denial either no and it became
00:56:29
particularly evident when he wondered out loud what would have happened had he been in the house at the time of the
00:56:35
murders oh he said I may not have been able to stop you you probably may have hurt me too but at least I would have
00:56:41
known what happened oh and he kept going just trying to get Grant to confess he said they didn't
00:56:48
deserve it no matter what feelings were felt by anybody they were good people yeah and just when they thought Grant
00:56:55
was gonna budge he said I know and they showed it by protecting me what it's like so now you were home
00:57:03
wow and they protected you and you're the sole survivor like what the [ __ ] what and it's like are you talking is he
00:57:10
talking about that or is he talking about protected him throughout the solar deal I don't even know either way it's
00:57:16
like wow you're a [ __ ] monster that you're acknowledging that right like wow exactly holy [ __ ] so while all of that
00:57:24
was going on down at the Sheriff's Office crime scene technicians began a thorough search of the house Grant's Car
00:57:30
and the hotel room that he'd been staying at uh in in Orlando at the DoubleTree now in the search of his car
00:57:37
crime scene analyst Eric Brothers found a handwritten letter that detailed all the issues that had been going on in the
00:57:44
family for the last six months and it included a quote saying I said I'd take care of all your problems at the house
00:57:50
and I have no one will bother you again regarding this just please come home what the hell was that so back in the
00:57:58
interview room like detectives heard about this and they asked Grant about the letter and he said he was the one
00:58:04
that had written it he was like yeah like that's mine and the quote was something Cody said to him the night
00:58:10
that he was kicked out of the house and they were like why would you write a letter in first person yeah as Cody and
00:58:18
he said he was just trying to document their conversation um but like if I was just trying to
00:58:24
document that conversation I'd be like yeah and then Elena said no like that doesn't make any sense that
00:58:30
doesn't make sense so meanwhile analysts combing through the evidence at the DoubleTree found several credit cards
00:58:37
after he murdered his family he stole their credit cards they found multiple people belonging to Cody chat and Chad
00:58:44
that checks a lot and a later search of the Yamato house would turn up even more
00:58:49
credit cards and also images showing the credit card information that Grant had stolen from his aunt and uncle
00:58:55
based on the quote totality of the investigation an arrest warrant was issued and Grant was officially taken
00:59:02
into custody he was charged with three counts of first degree premeditated murder for the deaths of Cody Chad and
00:59:09
Margaret wow so on March 27 2019 there was a bond hearing to determine whether he should be eligible for bond which is
00:59:18
wild yeah his lawyer uh Jeff Dowdy argued that there was no physical evidence tying Grant to the murders
00:59:25
because he lives in the house I was gonna say of course yeah and he should be a loud bond in order to prepare for
00:59:32
the trial but during the hearing the prosecutor played the 16-minute conversation between Jason and Grant
00:59:38
during his initial interview and that was followed up by testimony from Jason who was able to detail all the issues
00:59:45
that had been going on in the home and in his closing arguments the prosecutor Stuart Stone said everything points to
00:59:51
the defendant in this case and no one else no one else had any issues or problems with the victims
00:59:57
and even though there was a lack of forensic evidence linking Grant to the crime scene but that's because he lived
01:00:03
there like it's hard to it's like there's a lack of forensic evidence linking anyone to the crime scene
01:00:08
exactly that's the problem here exactly yeah but because or excuse me even though there was that the judge actually
01:00:15
denied the request for Bond oh okay and Grant was returned back to his cell my [ __ ] bye but the issue of bond was
01:00:23
Revisited again in late April and the defense attorney pointed again to the lack of forensic evidence blah blah and
01:00:29
the judge actually ended up siding with him because still at this point there was a lack of proof coming from the
01:00:35
prosecution side so he granted a 750 000 bail damn which Grant would need to pay
01:00:41
10 off yeah he's not gonna no and it came of course with additional requirements right if he was to be on
01:00:48
bond would have to wear a GPS ankle monitor avoid contact with any Witnesses in the case and avoid the internet
01:00:53
altogether which we all know would not have happened no so even though he was in jail and strictly forbidden from
01:01:00
using the internet meaning he had no way of keeping in contact with Sylvie he was
01:01:04
committed to his belief that she was in fact his girlfriend in a handwritten letter to the
01:01:10
girlfriend of his cellmate Grant explained that he and his cellmate had bonded over their shared interests and
01:01:16
work histories he said to the woman I know the pain of being separated from the woman you love my God you've always
01:01:22
been separated from the woman you love literally always and then he went on to tell her that he and Sylvie had plans to
01:01:28
take a cruise quote once all this jail stuff is behind us once all this jail stuff lives behind us
01:01:38
BB you murdered your entire family and even if you're still claiming in a sense that you didn't your entire family was
01:01:46
murdered thank you that's that was going to be my next thing it's like even if you're gonna keep claiming that you had
01:01:51
nothing to do with this that's not something you're gonna put it on to you that your whole family was brutally
01:01:56
slain in their house in the house that you plan to live in with your brother that was curled up in the fetal position
01:02:02
in the garage in the storage room none of this is bothering you at all I know he's just gonna go on a cruise with
01:02:07
someone cool I'm also like did Sylvie know that yeah did Sylvie knows that you guys were going on a cruise because I
01:02:13
don't think so that's uh what does Sylvie know she knew that he became obsessed with her and she was just like
01:02:19
it wasn't that for me it was work yeah like there was no relationship no he was just wondering
01:02:25
I think she must have been terrified yeah so it's honestly unclear uh why Grant was writing long detailed buddy
01:02:33
letters to his soulmate's girlfriend yeah I was gonna ask that next yeah I don't really know but most of his other
01:02:38
correspondence made sense under the circumstances he was clearly unable to come up with the 75 000 Bond so he tried
01:02:46
to access the payout from his parents life insurance policies [ __ ] that are you kidding me but you know he was
01:02:52
informed that um his indictment for their murder happened to make him ineligible for that money like there's
01:02:58
this little thing they're standing in your way tiny rule of like if you're the one on trial for the murder you actually
01:03:04
don't get that you actually don't get this crazy I know it's wild sorry very unfair sorry you know but speaking of
01:03:09
unfair yeah yeah you know all about that grant for sure but anyway the conditions of his bail
01:03:15
made it so that he couldn't use any funds from his parents estate anyway to make bond so instead he began reaching
01:03:21
out to news outlets offering quote tradix to trade exclusive interviews to reporters in exchange for getting money
01:03:29
to bond out of jail wow so he's like yeah yeah I'll talk to you about me yeah so I can get out of here in an email to
01:03:35
a reporter in New York he complained about his inability to come up with the money saying it seems to be my half
01:03:41
brother's mission to make my life that much harder by not believing me communicating me or even helping me even
01:03:47
after I was blessed with a very high Bond wow like you think it's [ __ ] Jason's
01:03:55
responsibility to bond you out of here you murdered his mother his adoptive father and his half-brother he's so
01:04:00
delusional he is his other message to journalists were very similar in tone and they usually
01:04:06
contained a list of repetitive complaints about everything from his experiences in jail he would write about
01:04:12
his interest in Japanese culture and then he would start complaining again about the lack of support outside of
01:04:17
jail and his quote unquote elitist neighbors back home he called them elitist what I'm like I
01:04:25
don't think they're judging you because like you don't have money yeah I don't think they're judging you because um you
01:04:30
murdered your whole family and you murdered their neighbor so I think that's that's part of the Judgment I
01:04:36
don't think it's elitist no I wouldn't say it was now despite his quote-unquote efforts Grant was never able to come up
01:04:42
with the money and he remained in jail awaiting trial but as he was trying his hardest the Seminole County
01:04:48
investigators continued collecting and analyzing a seemingly endless amount of evidence actually coming from the car
01:04:54
and from the house the more prominent evidence included hundreds and hundreds of images and screenshots of Sylvie
01:05:03
there were text conversations between the two and there were screenshots of the bank transactions showing proof of
01:05:09
his countless purchases of those tokens that he could use on the cam girl website
01:05:14
so his trial for the murder murder of his parents and his brother finally began on July 15th in the Seminole
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County Circuit Court Stuart Stone was arguing for the prosecution and again Jeff Doughty was
01:05:27
leading the grant leading grants defense team so in his opening statement Stone laid
01:05:32
out the prosecution's theory that Grant had been faced with the ultimatum of giving up his fantasy relationship with
01:05:38
Sylvie or losing the support of his family so he chose to continue that relationship with Sylvie and also chose
01:05:45
to murder his parents and brother awesome thinking that with them out of the way he would be free to continue on
01:05:51
in his relationship and live off of their money yep now the prosecution pointed to the fact
01:05:57
that just a few hours after killing his family Grant logged on to the wi-fi at Publix and tried to connect with Sylvie
01:06:05
my God a few hours this is so beyond Obsession yeah I can't imagine wow so the prosecution told the jury quote his
01:06:15
parents and brothers bodies aren't even cold and he's already re-establishing or
01:06:19
trying to re-establish contact with Sylvie he was just waiting for her to say I love you too come to Bulgaria come
01:06:26
see me but that didn't happen my God because this is her job it's not she's not in love with you she's not in
01:06:33
love with things no like this is literally her job right that's it so throughout the trial it went on for two
01:06:39
weeks the jury was presented with the by then well-known story of Grant's full-blown obsession with Sylvie his
01:06:46
theft of more than at that point two hundred thousand dollars from his family and the incredibly tense relationship
01:06:52
that had developed between him and specifically his father as a result but the more damning evidence actually
01:06:58
came from the uh murder weapon it was in I hope I got this right iwi Jericho 941 pistol that belonged to
01:07:09
his best friend Blake Turpin so Turpin was called to testify and he told the jury that he realized his gun was
01:07:18
missing from his home about a month or two earlier and remembered leaving Grant in his bedroom where the gun was kept
01:07:25
quote for about 10 minutes two weeks prior to the killings oh damn so he not only stole a [ __ ] ton of money from his
01:07:34
family stole their belongings but he stole from his best friend to kill his family I was gonna say and then use that
01:07:41
thing to murder his entire family so that it would be traced back to his best friend while and was willing to say that
01:07:47
it was Cody who did everything yep like he will throw anybody under the bus anybody
01:07:53
so on July 31st 2019 after more than eight hours of deliberation which I truly can't even believe it took that
01:07:59
long the jury unanimously delivered a guilty verdict guilty guilty guilty bye and all three charges of first-degree
01:08:07
premeditated murder yep and the penalty phase of the trial took place on August 12th and it was particularly important
01:08:15
because actually Grant was potentially facing the death penalty for these murders oh damn but during that part of
01:08:20
the trial Jason Amato testified and told the judge it's so hard to go through the
01:08:25
grieving process when there are multiple losses and uncertainty in the future through all this though I'm a proud
01:08:31
Amado and I will rise up smarter and stronger than before and ultimately the judge sentence sentenced Grant a motto
01:08:39
to life in prison without the possibility of parole bye Grand the end bye grants [ __ ] holy wild wow I am
01:08:53
like without words but that's it why I didn't know that story I can't believe I've
01:08:59
never heard that story I actually I have to tell you and I have to um give credit
01:09:03
where credit is due I actually learned of this case from Bailey sarian oh [ __ ]
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it was one of the first videos I ever watched of hers oh I love that yeah like years ago oh that's crazy oh I love
01:09:14
Bailey I love Bailey so human like truly so if you want any more information on this case I would
01:09:19
definitely suggest going to uh Bailey's Channel and watching that oh man that you know what it is it's the name
01:09:26
sounded familiar yeah but I did not know this yeah I did not know that and crazy
01:09:31
that it really wasn't that long ago it's so sad it's such a sad case like that at
01:09:35
the end you're like bye Grant see you later but then you're like fall but like everyone and it's like I feel so bad for
01:09:41
Jason like having like what he said going through the grieving process with this as part of it you can't even you're
01:09:47
grieving your entire family and grieving the loss of your brother to your remaining brother who did all of this of
01:09:55
course it's so upsetting and I can't imagine I would just never trust anybody ever again no honestly you shouldn't no
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I mean anyways but wow what a story sad well told thank you um shout out to Dave for helping me with
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the research David the the most beautiful beautiful being the majestic unicorn him
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um so yeah guys we thank you for listening and we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it
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heard it's a great grocery store definitely do that all right love you bye [Music]
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