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hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and I'm Rachel and this is a special episode of
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[Music] morbid [Music] wo W woooo guys we have Rachel stavis on the show today Rachel is a this is a
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long list a world-renowned Exorcist she has written multiple books created the backstory for Laura Croft Tomb Raider
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and really you're kind of just like an all-around badass so welcome oh well thank you that's like the best you could
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get okay good I'm glad I really worked on it yeah and you know it's funny because
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we were just talking about this before we started recording but this is really exciting because I just came across
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Rachel on Tik Tok like one of your videos just popped up on my fre you page I immediately was drawn to it watched
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the whole thing and was like oh immediate follow and then I just started like every time you would come up I was
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like oo like yes like awesome and then we just like I think somehow we came together and was like oh she should come
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on the show and I was like hell yeah like it was such an organic yeah coming together it felt so cool yeah and like I
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I think I'm so terrible at Tik Tok so that was very validating for me what you just you're great at TI we love your
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videos I'm like I try I don't know what I'm doing I'm just like following like Sinister Pond babe and that's it that's
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what same we have been shouting the Praises of sinister P babe for months F the funniest person alive I am obsessed
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with Sinister pom so good we do Impressions all the time and we are not so good at them constantly saying that's
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Sinister bab it's given dark sided it's given dark sided every time there's a new one I'm
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like I have to watch it as soon as I see it every time y every time if we're in the room together elen's like oh new
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one I swear that's me that's totally me I'm like oh my God I love it so if you guys want we can kind of
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Dive Right into everything we have a ton of questions for you Rachel so hopefully
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that is okay yes I'm ready awesome all right amazing our first question for you is can you basically just give us like
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kind of an overview about what being an exorcist means to you sure yeah so oh my
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gosh uh let's see I've been doing this work well kind of in secret for a while for over 10 years now wow in Los Angeles
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uh I work on everyone from I don't know like Oscar winners and heads of studio and rock icons like you if you can think
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of them they've probably been here let's just put it that way but I don't out that's so cool I never say who um but
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yeah and and basically what I do you know is exorcism work it's it really is what it is it's taking entities out of
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people and places that's what I've been doing here forever I love it how did you discover
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that this like was your unique talent that you had yeah so um ever since I was a kid I could see entities with my eyes
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and I you know would complain about like monsters under the bed or monsters in the closet like one does but they real
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you know and then parents would come in and be like there's nothing there go to bed like you're keeping me up so for me
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they just never went away like I always could see them and I didn't know that that was weird when I was a kid because
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like how would you know right so talked about it I talked about it at school I talked about it home
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like you IDE by the way like worst idea ever so I found out very quickly that that's crazy and lunatic and you don't
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do that so you know I believed that wholeheartedly because there's I don't know when you're a kid everything's so
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weird and awkward and so I didn't want more weird and awkward things about myself so I just listened and I didn't
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talk about it ever again like it went to the Vault and uh I had I always say like
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you know how people talk about they had like some life-changing event and then now they're like can see spirits or
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whatever right that was totally not me I I was able to kind of drown out the sight a bit uh until I hit like 30 and
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then I had a fender bender not like the life changing thing that you but it was like one stresser too
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many and a week full of stressors and so suddenly my site was blown open and I couldn't suppress it at all anymore and
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like you know the unhoused person on the street like screaming I was seeing who they were screaming at or what they were
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screaming at entity was just everywhere and I you I I thought basically like I'm
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either gonna have to check myself in or figure out why I have this like what is this what is this thing so I always joke
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like I sat down with a bottle of scotch and was like okay Spirit people like tell me let's dive into this I love that
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here's my offering right and you know many scotches later here we are but I I just kind of learned to open myself up
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more instead of closing everything down and in doing so I communicated with spirit with the good things right that
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we want and just started working on people and friends at first and who would just let me and you know there
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were a lot of uh issues that you don't think about when you see movies about exorcisms like you know if you put five
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candles on the ground you're gonna kick them over and start a fire at some point
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you know so I started a lot of fires and did a lot of things wrong and hoped that
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people would bear with me and so then they would have a good experience and share it with somebody else and and it
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just was so Word of Mouth for so long that's the best way to go about things though like Word of Mouth travels so
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quickly and then make make sure you have just people beating down your door at this
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point yeah well I never thought it would get so public I just thought well I could do
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this nobody's gonna care yeah right that's not the case because what because that's what it is it's like when people
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are saying their personal experiences with something like this it's like that's the most valuable thing you can
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have is people telling other people being like I did this is real this worked I did it yeah that's true that is
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true and these were people that people respected I think too and so that goes a long way oh absolutely did you feel
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lighter once you kind of started leaning into it after suppressing for so long honestly yes yeah yeah I could imagine
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you know it really sucks to not Embrace parts of yourself all parts yourself like you don't have to be an exorcist to
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feel that you know absolutely and we do that so often to like not be ridiculed or not be judged
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or whatever and I even had like a manager at the time I'm not my manager anymore who was like you can never tell
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people you do this because I'm a writer as well that's like my job so you cannot
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tell you can't go public with this you can't tell people you do this don't tell people in meetings like and I was like
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oh okay but then eventually you know that catches up with you and you're just like this is who I am if you don't want
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to work with me don't work with me absolutely yeah I'm not going to hide this part of myself just to appease
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people right you make yourself small for people like so many people do that we just like make ourselves so small to
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make other people feel safe and that's not cool I'm not doing that anymore I'm old for that [ __ ] now yeah leaning in
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and it's funny that you said it happened when you were like 30 cuz I always say to as I always tell her I'm like
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something about 30 I just hit it and I was like why am I doing like why am I making myself for other people like like
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I need to I need to be comfortable with everything I am it was like I hit 30 and
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I was like whatever can't wait for that true it's so true you do like you just don't care anymore and honestly the
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older you get I feel the less you give a [ __ ] about others people's opinions at
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all you hope for the best but you know but the worst at the end of the day it's like it's none of my business what they
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think of me like that is fine exactly exactly it's so funny that it like coincided with that it's so true and the
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I I also say that you know when you are high frequency you know how there are online like gurus that always tell you
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like you got to love everybody and you got to forgive everybody and you know everything's the same
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and not true that is not true like the the more high frequency you actually get the less tolerance you have for [ __ ]
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like you just don't want it around at all that makes sense I feel like I'm nearing that The Closer I Get to 30 I'm
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27 now and I can see like every year the less and less an that I have for I love
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that for you true cuz it really does like once you get to that place of just being like Oh no like I don't give a
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[ __ ] you don't like me you don't like me like that's fine we don't have to interact that's cool as long as I like
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me that's what's good yeah as long as I like me and the people I love and respect like me then like that's it yeah
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like my whole thought process is like as long as my little bubble likes me and I
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like me then like we're good we're in the clear yeah we're good exactly totally agree with that yeah now it
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obviously it's spooky season we're we're all excited about that you know sa we we
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did a whole history on that I think it was like a couple years ago yeah um and during the Autumn months that's when the
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veil is the thinnest and I've actually learned specifically from you on Tik Tok that right now it is currently the
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thinnest like this is wild and I think you said it's from here until like sometime in November so for people who
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don't even know what the veil is can you kind of tell us a little more about that
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what the veil is why it might be the thinnest right now I'm so excited for this question and this answer yeah so
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the veil is you know between our world and you know the spirit world that's kind of a big world you
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know that's high beings you know that's deceased people it's a whole lot of stuff on the other side um and right now
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it's the it's been in years and there's a lot of reasons for that it's so part of being able to read negative energy I
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guess like my side effect is that I can read when energy shifts in the world so I always try to warn people about it and
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good stuff too like oh this is a really good time for you to be able to manifest
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things this is a bad time for that you know don't do that whatever like just stay home and like you know sleep for
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five days um right so right now the it's the thinnest because there's a lot of uh
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negative activity on the planet just a ton a ton of negative activity on the planet really kind of I mean we don't
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even need to get into it everybody knows yeah um and then uh the flip side of that is there are a lot of people more
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interested in connecting that makes sense both of those things work together to kind of thin energy out so it's like
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a there's a reach going on if that makes sense like reach across to each other absolutely and so the negative part of
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that it well depends on how you feel I guess but the negative part of that most people feel is that there's a lot of you
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know not so nice energy trying to come through so you'll get like visitations from entities you'll get um you know
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more stuff kind of like I've been getting a lot more of my name called huh it's like out I'll hear it and a lot
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of people have been experiencing like oh I just heard my name and there's nobody
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here and different voices of that that's so interesting and a lot of like stuff moving around so like doors
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closing you know just you thought your keys were here somehow they were here that kind of stuff that's so that's
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really fascinating actually because we've had like some stuff going on in our family and with my parents they're
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good now but like we had some stuff going on the last few weeks and we were in their house which is the house I grew
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up in and it's very old house there was always stuff going on in there when we grew up like nothing ever seemed
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threatening or bad it was always just like innocuous things but we've been in there kind of cleaning and help organize
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and stuff and I specifically and this has never happened to me I've never heard voices in that house I've never
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heard anything like that and it's funny because I have yeah and I never have but
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I was I was like I believe you you have I just never experienced it myself M and
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I was in one room cleaning and Ash was in room across the way on the upstairs floor and at one point I heard a woman's
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voice go hello and it was like clear as day and I was like what was that so I was like ash did someone just come in
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the door like our sister or something and she was like what are you talking about and I was like I just heard
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somebody just yelled hello like they came in the door and she was like I did not hear anything no one came it was
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just the two of us and I was like that was so clear like what what you were shook by it I was like shook by it and I
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kind of pushed it aside I was like okay that was weird and then the other day we
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went into the house again to talk to my parents totally different area of the house we were in the room me Ash both my
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parents and they all saw me look to the left cuz I was like someone's talking over there like it was like a man's
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voice talking on my left and I couldn't figure out what they were saying but it was like so clear and I was like what is
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going on like why am I suddenly hearing this right like okay that's a perfect because this has technically been thin
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since like September 15ish but the Halloween is the thinnest yeah right so don't people don't do
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stupid things please don't do stupid things on Halloween that's all I'm asking put your Ouija boards away people
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like you know you know those Conjuring games that people love to play that they're just like scared and then I'm
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always like what's the plan if it comes through like what are you GNA do what you do where do we go from here he's
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have a plan yeah yeah but yeah it's so crazy that you're experiencing that because like even
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people and and I don't think this is true of you I think you all are very sensitive but like there are people who
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are like walking around like boards they're not sensitives at all like you unconscious and they're say oh I just
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heard this I just heard this that makes so much sense it is crazy that really that was like so validating when you
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started talking about like voices I was like okay like I'm not losing it that's nice to know
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well I get that all the time in in my house my house was built in 1936 and um it's so loud here sometimes
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like at 2 three in the morning it always like once a month at least someone's having a party in the living
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room going on so we now have a like a code for it in the house uh we call it the anti- Whispers I don't know if
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you're like Over the Garden Wall fans oh I love that yeah there's like a character called anti Whispers so we're
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always like oh it's anti Whispers again just like I love that I love that so much
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that's amazing just going for it damn just like popping off at 2 am good for them yeah you wake up and you're like oh
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okay cool thanks like okay have a good time I guess welcome I guess yeah like so loud rude yeah well you you use the
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term and we've heard it a couple times while talking to you right now um entities rather than like what people
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might think of you know or something right um and in your book sister of darkness which by the way is an amazing
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title I love that immediately I was like oh grab that book uh you talk about entities like you know the Clive a
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wraith tricksters realm Walkers collectors can you kind of give us a little bit of the differences what those
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things are what their differences are and kind of how you approach each one if you approach them differently sure yeah
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so you know let let's just be clear too like deceased people and entities or or what people call demons are not the same
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thing makes deceased people are just deceased they people they're dead right just everything else is like not been
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people they hav an experience that different different lifestyle and it shows so cves are the lowest like if you
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will on the malevolence branch and intelligence um there are things that people pick up quite often I call them
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cves very scientific I call them cves because to me they look like Clive Barker drawings so I've just always
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called them sort of like something between like a brain and a face hugger know if you can picture I can as
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soon as you said that I was like oh I don't want one of those and they're the easiest to pick up
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unfortunately um they're they're like the smallest and the easiest to pick up and people when they think about
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attachment or possession they think about movies right like yeah oh it's like everything is going to hell really
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fast and you know very obvious that's not how entity Works normally so like with Clive's for
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example it's like they attach they're very small they come in they don't want you to know that they exist they're very
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quiet you know it's not it's very Insidious I guess is what I'm saying yeah that makes sense a lot of people
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have lives it's very easy to pick up so I would say I don't even know now like 85% of the population is walking around
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with a cve and they don't even know not to be but like I feel like I definitely have a CLI or too well the the word the
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name Clive is like so innocuous sounding that when you're like you know you're just walking it's not you know he's just
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there just hanging out it what it does is it's it's an amplifier so like if you're sad you're depressed if you're
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depressed is the worst you know if you're angry you have rage and it just works like it's a and it feels really
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big but it's actually very small and very easy even for people to get rid of okay like they'll walk around with it
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and then get rid of it without even realizing oh wow wow so you can just drop they kind of like jump to the next
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person well like the if you work on yourself even a little bit and you you raise your vibration a little bit like
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you've had I don't know like six really good days in a row sure or you're like trying to be positive or you're trying
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to be like really nice to people for whatever your deal is or you meditate six days like it'll pop off I love that
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that is cool yeah yeah so CES are kind of like you just have to kind of recognize that something is a myth yeah
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and just try to rectify it a little bit within yourself okay exactly like they're the leeches of the the community
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let's say you know they they're just trying to feed they're just not it's just they're just there yeah you know
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it's it's not personal yeah just trying to sap your your energy go exactly so you start to starve
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him out they're like on to the next that makes sense all right I get that but then of course it goes up from there
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right like wraith attachments are attachments that people get that are associated with night terrors and sleep
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paralysis oh I've sleep paralysis and night teror since you had night terrs when I was little so that you know you
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know not to get into anything because we're not going to point anything out publicly
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here our business erog right that there's two ways or well three ways to get that so either you're
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in a house around someone who has it and you're an extra sensitive kind of empathic
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person or something sexual happened to you when it shouldn't so people get that from um you
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know unfortunately mestation and all kinds of terrible things um or even abusive part part ners sometimes you'll
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get that from abusive partners and then the last way you can get that which is the most rare but it does happen and
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I've seen it a lot of times here in my practice if you will um lineage rates so it came down through someone in the past
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who had an encounter and it's just hung around that one feels like right because
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we have a long line of people who have also dealt with the same thing and I've always been like oh okay like yeah
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that's interesting and my kids had a few bouts of Night Terrors like pretty early
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on and then they went away right and I was always like oh no did I pass this down something I could do you confronted
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it head on and was like you were like you're not welcome here yeah I just kind of was like this isn't happening for you
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guys so like I'm going to take cuz they they they had like night terrors like the night terrors where you know they're
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awake but not awake and they're just kind of upset and we would just sit there and like kind of hug them until
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they were calmed down my poor husband had no idea what was going on because he had never experienced it when he was
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younger it's usually maternal it is all almost that makes sense wow my mom had the same thing going on so that makes a
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lot of sense because they would then they woke up one night we've told this story on the podcast before so listeners
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have heard it but uh I one night they woke up and they were so upset the two of them I have seven-year-old Twins and
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they were saying that a group of people came in their room and were trying to cut their sheets with scissors and I was
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like that is the scariest [ __ ] I have ever heard in my life but in my head I was like all right there you can't react
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to this like how you want to in your head right now and start screaming and crying just run out of the house right
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now so I was like all right I got to take charge of this whole thing and I was like I don't want them to go through
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these like I did so I was like all right so I was like where are they are they still here and they were like they're
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right there and they pointed into the hallway and I was like how did you okay and I was like my husband literally was
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like no that's on you like he was like I'm not nope he's like this is a you problem he just stood in the corner and
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was like ah I don't see anything it's okay and I'm like it's so I was like all right so I walked into the into the
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hallway where they said they were and I just stood there and I was like are they
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here and they were like Yep they're right there and I was like you guys are freaking out my kids this is mean this
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is our house that is their room those are their sheets you can whatever you're doing is not welcome and like it's rude
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and I don't appre apprciate it and we can all live together if you're not being [ __ ] but you're being [ __ ]
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and I was like cut it out and then I was like okay you feel better never happened
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again they never had another night terror they never saw another thing awesome and like also my guess is that
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you all are high empaths which means that you feel everything and so when you're a high empath another thing that
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comes through is a lot of deceased people a lot of deceased people will come through because deceased people
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love to talk they're very chatty like they they do not shut up to see people and so if they can feel that
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someone's a high empath even if you don't know it or even if you're like nope don't want that or whatever they
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try to come through so it's very possible too that your children are high empaths and like I could see that
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defitely wants to come through and like talk to them or see them and they're not
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necessarily ready for that either so it's scary you know not the way to do it yeah don't
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make about why you doing that like oh my God it was so specific that was the thing I was like wow you
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really just that was too specific for when it comes from your kid when it comes when anything comes out of a
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child's mouth it's always like the scariest thing possible yeah always because you're like I know you're seeing
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it yeah like yeah I guess so yeah and they're like so open about saying it where adults even if they saw it were
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like I'm not telling anybody that see that right I'm not saying it but they're just like at The Breakfast Table being
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like you know what I saw last night it was wild and like this is creepy I want to run screaming into the night but I'm
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not going to do that but I'm like it's fine like our youngest remember skeletone skeletone oh yeah she said she
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saw she saw a skeleton but her little voice would call him skeleton and she said he was a nice guy and he
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just hung out and smiled at her and she she wasn't even that scared of him and then she was like I was like do you see
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him anymore I just asked her once and she was like no he wanted to see his family and I was like oh okay and then
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he just never came back I was like I hope he did go to see his family yeah good for him well you know what's cool
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about kids too is that well lots of things I guess but they're very connected to spirit because they're the
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closest to Spirit you know the older they get the less connected because we kind of well maybe not anymore hopefully
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but when I was a kid like people definitely were like that's not real so you stop know opening yourself up to
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Spirit but one of the things that's really great about kids is that they trust what they feel yeah yeah instead
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of what they see because oftentimes deceased people come in and even for adult people that's
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too scary they don't want to look at it or they'll come in kind of half formed or they'll come in kind of looking weird
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or whatever yeah and the immediate response is that's scary shut it down but kids are like well he looks like a
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skeleton but he feels real good so like he's nice he's nice it's all right yeah he's smiling so I'll go with it yeah it
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makes sense I used to see so much more stuff when I was a kid but then I could tell I was scaring people so I was like
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okay maybe this is bad yeah yeah exactly yeah so it's nice when you kind of keep
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it going for kids and I think more parents are a bit more spiritual now and are like seeing like tell me about it oh
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does it feel about you know yeah like asking more questions instead of just being like no no like just ask a little
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more better to lean in exactly yeah exactly absolutely and what about Trickster sound I don't know about that yeah
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scared about that tricksters are the ones that form symbiotic relationships with their person because they stick
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around so Trier is a little more malevolent because they're like yeah you can see what you want to see so I've had
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clients who you know had imaginary friends you know that felt not good um they had uh Arch angels with them I had
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a few clients who thought they had like Genies with them oh wow that's cool from
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childhood I had one client who was I think in their 30s who was like there's a horse with me what horse because they
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usually latch on in childhood and then keep going okay so wouldn't you think you know differently yeah and I had I
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can't this is so weird to say well I guess all of this is weird to say right but like nothing's weird here weird for
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me like I've had more than one client come in and be like archangel Michael is attached like goes with me everywhere we
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go everywhere together wow and I'm just like okay and so to me when I see a trickster with my eyes they always look
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the same they don't look like whatever they're presenting to this person they just kind of look like I
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don't know like um it's so hard to explain but like like very tall very dark figures
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o so it always looks the same I'm not seeing the hor or Archangel Michael or what you know
00:28:30
the grandpa or whatever whatever it is so I'm like try I try to be respectful about it because you know we're having a
00:28:37
conversation I like to have a conversation with people about what they feel is going on and so that I'm like
00:28:43
okay so but how's your life going and they're like oh it's a [ __ ] show horrible thank you for out of 10 don't
00:28:51
recommend and I'm like well okay so how do I explain so you know if you had AR Angel
00:28:57
Michael with you at all times yeah but yet your life is reflecting [ __ ] show right maybe not Archangel Michael and we
00:29:06
should take that out yeah like maybe he's just trying to make you think he's Archangel Michael right exactly and how
00:29:13
they do that is they can again this is like wild scary sounding [ __ ] but I'm I'm so used to it I'm like oh here's how
00:29:21
oh we love we're like let's go yeah we're into it they they can kind of pull something
00:29:27
out of your mind so they scan your mind basically wow and pull something you want out of it so I've had situations
00:29:37
where I had a situation where I worked on um one particular like Rockstar and I've actually worked on
00:29:47
several and they always think it's the same entity like they they'll see something in their mind and be like this
00:29:53
is what I have with me and I'll be like okay because it's like a famous you know
00:29:59
like demon like from pictures like they'll be like oh I have this demon this demon is the demon I
00:30:05
wanted I bought him at the store yeah exactly and I'm like okay and I'll just be like it's really not that but let's
00:30:13
just take it out you know like I won't even get into it I'll just be like you do okay let's take it out yeah it'll be
00:30:18
a trickster it's a trickster then they'll be like okay cool and I whenever I take something out of people I also
00:30:25
give them homework because we need to keep the energy up right so so doesn't happen again how entity attaches in the
00:30:32
first place is it's all energy so you know we are energy stuff is energy everything's energy and we're walking
00:30:39
around life with what I call a baseline frequency and so that's you know how we interact with ourselves how we interact
00:30:45
with the world how conscious we are like how do we talk to ourselves all that stuff matters so like I don't know if
00:30:53
you're walking around like if if it's a scale of 1 to 10 and one is dead and 10 is Buddha you know most people like four
00:31:03
yeah you you're doing good if you're out of four giving it your best go hanging in out of
00:31:10
four it may not be great but you're like you're there you're here so when we work
00:31:15
on ourselves we can raise that vibration we can raise that frequency but it takes
00:31:19
time so it's not fast it's like okay I'm I'm gonna do this every day and like try
00:31:24
to do better yeah you know great but when we go through a trauma that Baseline frequency takes an immediate
00:31:31
hit and since we don't really believe in this in our society we don't know how to
00:31:37
handle that like spiritually like we barely know how to function through that yeah
00:31:43
accurate so when that happens unfortunately that's kind of a double-edged sword we're in low
00:31:48
frequency space and here's this low frequency thing that wants to attach and so that's kind of how it happens yeah
00:31:59
whenever someone leaves here because we have to take that trauma signature out of the body as well as the entity out of
00:32:04
the body so that we can raise that vibration for you so you're not just going to attract other things right
00:32:09
away and so there's homework right so we want to keep that energy clean and Rising so whenever I've worked on people
00:32:16
in the past and I've done all the work and I've given them homework especially people that affect a lot of other people
00:32:23
so very famous like people who affect a lot of people people I'm like oh please please do the do the
00:32:31
homework do it but with a few people in particular they would come back like a month later
00:32:39
and be like well this demon came back I don't know do the homework definitely didn't do the homework and then I'm
00:32:46
looking at it and it's not the same trickster interesting but because they're they stayed in the place that
00:32:53
they were energetically and it scans the brain it was like oh it's me again hi oh
00:33:01
yeah it just knew exactly what to present as but it's just a different guy that makes sense but it's not because
00:33:08
when I take them out I don't give them the opportunity to keep going you know it's like it's gone it's gone poo
00:33:15
done done then I'm looking at this and I'm like oh my God here we go again like like I'm GNA put your name on the board
00:33:23
you did not do your homework I'm not helping you next time yeah exactly like I'm putting up like you passed a bad
00:33:29
check you're not allowed in here you can't come back in you're on the Red List welcome anymore God not until you
00:33:36
change your ways seriously one and You' think once you get like an entity removed from you and someone like you
00:33:42
like a professional is telling you like you should do this to like make sure another one doesn't come in you think
00:33:48
that you'd be like uh yeah I'm going to do that and I'm going to do more like I I was going to say You' like research
00:33:52
even more on a journey to make sure that doesn't come back yeah like some people are not ready yeah
00:33:59
like they think that gives them something like that's what gives me creativity or that's what makes me write
00:34:04
good sign that's what makes me whatever it's like that's not no true it's like the tortured artist special
00:34:13
yeah yes exactly and they're making you think that they're that you need them right to do that stuff right it's total
00:34:21
BS and like yeah I can explain that forever but it doesn't necessarily matter if you're not ready to let it go
00:34:28
you're not ready and the funny well I don't know if funny is the right word but like you know let's say I have an
00:34:35
actor in here and you know okay we go through all of these processes to take this out and you have all the homework
00:34:40
and he's like got it I'm gonna do all this I'm gonna do all this and you don't hear from them again so you're like okay
00:34:46
cool cool cool they're doing it then you go see their latest movie and you're watching it and you see the entity oh
00:34:54
wow and you're dude oh my God that's crazy so you can even see things attached to people in TV shows and
00:35:02
movies yep and photos wow is that really distracting for you is it hard to enjoy
00:35:09
like media yeah it's so distracting it's the one that's the one thing I I can't get over yeah right like I'm like H I'm
00:35:17
trying to stay in in the moment with the story and all this and then I just keep
00:35:21
seeing this thing and like if it's a horror movie I can kind of play it into the background right
00:35:28
there nobody's acknowledging him that's fine yeah it's fine interesting but if it's like some kind of like Hallmark
00:35:34
movie or something oh my God and to think about seeing that in a Hallmark movie wow the stark contrast there wow
00:35:42
happens totally happens because it's wholesome entertainment not so wholesome a person guess you're watching this girl
00:35:49
fall in love with a guy who ends up being Santa Claus's son of course and there like and you're like
00:35:57
oh my God God that's so wild but then there's more right like there are there's uh what are I love these names
00:36:04
to these last two names are so ominous to me realm Walkers yeah the worst to the worst o that sounds bad realm
00:36:13
Walkers are the worst of the worst they can um attach to people and spaces oh um
00:36:20
they're what people I would con like from my point of view consider the devil oh wow so they're the movie style
00:36:29
entity uh they can carry spaces and I think they're much more dangerous in spaces than they are in people I think
00:36:35
the any entity that carries spaces is much more dangerous because they're more malevolent more intelligent and can do
00:36:42
more because they can hold spaces right with realm Walkers they're they can do anything and
00:36:50
entity below them can do plus um and they can attract people can influence people from miles and miles
00:37:00
and miles away and in masses wow yeah they're pretty spectacular um and they can affect people in the space
00:37:12
dozens of ways so they can they obviously feed off of high high foot traffic it's always high foot traffic
00:37:18
areas so things that a lot of people go through because the ultimate goal is to feed from people yeah so in a space you
00:37:26
know um and I talk about in the book like the Cecil hotel which is downtown here in Los Angeles very notoriously bad
00:37:33
place one of the places that I really want to get in and exercise and like I've had a lot of resistance from
00:37:40
everyone it's changed hands so many times and I've had a lot of resistance from every single one because of that
00:37:44
influence they like to lean into it a bit yes exactly so I mean notorious murders have gone on there murderers
00:37:51
have stayed there the history is very vast and wild you know there's uh there's rumor that the black doia was
00:37:59
attached to that place you know every time someone wants to compare it to like they just want to say well it's you know
00:38:05
it's always been kind of a bad area it's always had a lot of you know whatever clientele I'm like okay but compare that
00:38:13
to all of the hotels legit right around it right yeah yeah they too have had things it's not like there's no crime
00:38:21
there but the crime does not match by far the seil hotel no no way at all especially that you know the Alisa lamb
00:38:32
story of of her being found in the water tower Tower yeah and like to this day they've done I don't even know how many
00:38:39
documentaries on this trying to find a way that that could have actually happened where she closed a water tower
00:38:45
onto herself yeah right and they still are like well we don't know but that's you know we're downplaying that there
00:38:52
Supernatural situations here of course but there are Supernatural situations there 100% there is a Rome Walker in
00:38:59
that space and but that's what it does so like it'll like all the police will come and they'll investigate and they'll
00:39:06
be like suicide yeah because that's it's like it's suicide it's whis exactly you
00:39:14
know so that particular entity there's not like a thousand of them or anything on the planet they're they're pretty
00:39:22
rare but there's more than one so it it it's not something I consider the devil but it's certainly real bad uh and the
00:39:29
last one I think is the collectors which to me sounds like the scariest that sound you say real realm Walker no it's
00:39:36
not it's the one down from the realm Walker so collectors collectors are the most
00:39:42
interesting though I think um and I deal with a lot of collectors in the work that I do um because I do spaces quite
00:39:50
frequently so collectors only hold space they don't bother with people that's not their
00:39:57
thing they're like cuz realm Walkers can also possess people and that's the movie
00:40:00
style right that's like everything looks terrible everyone's dying it's it's horrifying but the difference between
00:40:08
movies and real life on those things is that real Walkers will only do that for future World Changers oh they don't have
00:40:17
time for Just That Girl on that farm they don't care about that at all that's interesting that is really interesting
00:40:23
they only want the big time because think about it Go Bel and the most intelligent why you g to waste your
00:40:31
time it's like no but collectors only do spaces and they do spaces of mass trauma
00:40:37
so a place where Mass trauma has happened a collector can come in and form and what it does is it it keeps
00:40:45
deceased people in the space so deceased people are never stuck that's kind of a
00:40:49
lie it's not really a real thing okay um but they can stick themselves if that makes sense so you
00:40:58
know like if they're like I'm afraid to go on or I did something bad that was part of this Mass trauma so I think I
00:41:04
deserve to be here or they just don't know what you know they just don't have help or don't know they just stick
00:41:10
around yeah so collectors what they do is they like to pick a high traffic space again lots of people moving
00:41:18
through they keep the deceased people and they'll have the use the deceased people essentially to scare the living
00:41:24
people into giving the energy oh wow oh okay right so like Haun B like super haunted places where they've had Mass
00:41:32
trauma you can guarantee there's a collector behind that just kind of pulling out the stops and going like
00:41:38
okay now you now you now you wow he's like they M like they're terrible manager seriously just delegating
00:41:45
seriously you'll get a cut of anything yeah nothing at all yeah so what you have to do when dealing with um a
00:41:54
collector is you have to release the deceased people first because you want to take the battery away first because
00:41:59
it Puffs him up a bit you know right that makes sense all the deceased people out of the equation and that is just
00:42:06
conversations with deceased people because you know they're just like us but dead you know you just want to have
00:42:13
conversations with them and let them know like you don't have to be here anymore this is not for you and whatever
00:42:20
their fears are kind of address them and help yeah yeah little talk therapy with
00:42:26
disase people yeah yeah so like it's I don't know it's important to do that I think it's nice
00:42:34
to do that anyway because who wants to be in your own your own hell right so we get them out and then by the time you
00:42:42
get them all out the collector really doesn't have a lot to stand on at that point so he's kind of easy to remove but
00:42:47
it feels big when there's like a lot of people in the space certainly when people go through those spaces they
00:42:54
that's what the kind of space where you feel kind of underwater when you enter I
00:42:58
don't felt that sensation I don't know if I have but I've heard people say that yeah yeah it's like your senses become
00:43:06
very like it really is just like your underwater wow and it's very heavy feeling yeah okay the Lizzy Bardon house
00:43:15
was like that actually yeah now that I think of it when we went there oh I'm sure yeah there was a couple of rooms
00:43:21
immediately I think it was um the Stepmother's room upstairs yeah we we both were like H I don't want to go in
00:43:28
there like it just had a weird and I'd never felt that before I was like oh no I don't want to go in there and the
00:43:33
whole time we were in there it felt more and more threatening like you need you should get out of here you shouldn't be
00:43:38
in here you know I've never been inside that house but I do have feelings like I
00:43:43
wonder what really happened there I don't yeah okay it's a real heavy there's parts of it that you're like
00:43:52
okay like this I you feel a little wonky in there but like you're like whatever but there's as you go up it's like ooh
00:43:58
yeah the upstairs Harbors a lot more and and so does the basement yeah basement has some some weird energy down there
00:44:06
yeah well and I guess that's a hight traffic area technically right because people go a lot yep absolutely people
00:44:12
like travel from all over just to spend the night so makes sense yeah so she keep it going I sort of buy into the
00:44:18
hole someone was hiding in the Attic yeah the attic is so we were supposed to stay in the attic and I was like I will
00:44:25
not sleep I will not stand up there longer for the tour and then we're going downstairs yeah she would not like our
00:44:31
room was in the attic and we were like No And we just ended up sitting up in the sitting room actually where Andrew
00:44:38
died yep in the exact spot just sitting up but somehow that felt less threatening yeah weirdly enough yeah you
00:44:46
might have been healing a collector that that might be where he was hanging out like his I wonder it's like okay I did I
00:44:54
I did an exorcism on the Reinhardt Mansion which is the American Horror Story Mansion oh wow and this was for a
00:45:04
TV show for celebrity exorcism it's and um oh yeah I was just excited to go do the Mansion so I said yes so um we when
00:45:15
they told me it was a house I was like uh that doesn't usually have like an entity you might have like ghosts but I
00:45:22
don't know yeah because they didn't tell me what the H you know what house it was
00:45:26
so when we went I was like okay I will like actually feel this out and see if there is but I didn't realize it is
00:45:31
still a very high traffic area and so there was an entity in that space But it was in the basement
00:45:38
o and it wasn't like it so normally when an entity holds a space it can go through the whole Space it doesn't have
00:45:45
any kind of parameters but it'll have a place where like it likes to hang out and that's probably like an your adct
00:45:52
yeah like here they were this entity was actually forced down because at one point it was a church and there were
00:45:58
nuns that stayed there and they' figured out that there was something in the space so they had kept it down and when
00:46:03
they died they stayed wow it's like a whole thing we went through a whole thing um so that like the nuns were on
00:46:10
certain levels of the house and then this was forced to one level of the house and by the time we got there to
00:46:16
then I was to take it out it was like much weaker than it would have been had it not been for all these nuns fighting
00:46:23
for that's amazing but one thing that it did which I thought was so interesting and this I guess is a well I don't it's
00:46:30
not there anymore but it back in the day when it was there you know when it became the American Horror Story House
00:46:36
people used to go up to the gate and take pictures with it because it just sense like it's a very open fence and
00:46:42
you can see the whole house so it would take little bits from people who took pictures like it would feed tiny bits
00:46:51
off of people because it was stuck what from people piur so people would take pictures and then later complain
00:46:58
like they had just a small headache or just got tired or just it wasn't a lot it was just that's so creepy oh I want
00:47:07
to know if anybody's done that now and was like wait a second I know somebody listening is like right like oh my God
00:47:13
that was me yeah like I did that I fed him oh my gosh that's crazy oh my God that's wild so Are there specific signs
00:47:22
to look out for that some specific entity is attached to you you know most people don't have like high-end entities
00:47:32
it's not like normal you know what I like they don't have like the crazy [ __ ] right people honestly don't know they
00:47:40
have attachment at all and that's kind of a specialty of mine too like I love when people are just like well I feel
00:47:46
blocked in my life or you know I haven't worked in a while or um I can't find this relationship or my favorite one
00:47:55
actually is um we I've been having a lot of trouble conceiving I've helped so many people
00:48:01
conceive and I feel really proud of that because should absolutely well and it's such a big deal
00:48:09
like some people are are fine not having children all their lives like that's me
00:48:13
I'm fine with it but some people like that's all they want that's the only thing they want and that's me if you
00:48:20
have trouble that's the worst feeling because you're like why why is this happening to me when like it's so easy
00:48:26
for somebody else so I've had a lot of clients come in who had tried everything spent so
00:48:34
much money had so much hardship we're just like I can't and you know like I live here in Los Angeles people have
00:48:42
money and so they'll go to the ends of the Earth spend whatever it takes and when it's not working it's so
00:48:47
frustrating because it's like you're trying hard yeah yeah like I don't know what else to do so Word of Mouth has
00:48:55
sent a lot of um people here for that and so uh it's so interesting because so many times they'll be like
00:49:06
well they're telling me my ovaries are this or like this is happening and so you know every time or or they can't
00:49:12
find anything you know like it's one or the other like it's it's this dire situation where this will never happen
00:49:17
for me or like they can't find any reason why this isn't happening so when they come in here I go through my
00:49:25
emotions you know there so when we do the working here there are moments where I have to put my hands on people I
00:49:31
always warn them like I'm going to put my hands on you because if I see these blocks or these spaces in the body like
00:49:38
I want to pull it out I don't want it in the body anymore so like oftentimes when
00:49:43
people come in and I've even had clients come in who don't want to tell me anything right very skeptical clients
00:49:50
that somebody just had a good experience and so they said you should go and they
00:49:53
come in and they're like I don't want to talk about anything let's just get so I'm like okay fine let's just get this
00:50:00
done one of those clients was a client who could not conceive and but I didn't know this right that they didn't tell me
00:50:07
anything until I just started working so I kept putting my hand in the same place because over like the left
00:50:14
ovary area there was all this darkness and I was like I'm not leaving that in the body like I didn't know what the
00:50:20
plan was here but I just don't like leaving any of that in the body yeah right so I just kept going there every
00:50:27
round that I was doing this like that was where it was so concentrated and at the end of it this client sat up and was
00:50:34
like crying and was like why did you keep touching me here and I was like I said the same thing like I just saw a
00:50:41
lot of darkness and I don't like that in the body and so that's what I took out right and they were like I have been
00:50:49
trying to have a baby for two years I don't know what is going on doctors have told me that it's not possible they've
00:50:55
told me my ovaries are basically dead like that particular one is the worst and like I don't know what what to do
00:51:04
and everything that came in from spirit because finally we were able to talk right was like issues and Trauma with
00:51:13
their mom they had so many issues and Trauma with their mom that the body was stopping that from happening on like a
00:51:21
energetic level because that hadn't been released oh wow so I was like listen there is a 100% a
00:51:29
baby coming in like there is around like there is a baby there they're just waiting for the opportunity so let's
00:51:38
work on that here and we took all this stuff out we did all this whatever and I get a call I don't know a few months
00:51:46
later and it was like close to the holidays and they were like can I come in can I can I come back and I was like
00:51:53
you know I guess so yeah come back back and I was like what what happened like what's going on and they were like
00:52:01
well I'm pregnant oh my God I just got chilled I just got like a and they were like you know I just
00:52:09
want another one just to keep things going make sure it's like safe and healthy yeah and I would say that's
00:52:16
probably happened I don't even know maybe a hundred times over the last few wow decade that's incredible makes
00:52:25
so much sense though listen it's not the only thing right it's of course not is not the only thing that causes or or
00:52:32
Aids in those kind like infertility or mental illness or any of those things but it's part of the equation and we
00:52:40
just don't acknowledge that enough in our culture like we don't true we don't acknowledge that oh my God all this
00:52:46
stuff that we're holding in the body can be harmful to us it's not attachment even if it's just old [ __ ] like yeah
00:52:53
because we're taught to stuff down trauma so much because this Society is like get past it get over it you know
00:53:01
move on there's more to do yep like that happened a year ago yeah and it's what does that mean that doesn't mean
00:53:08
anything because getting over it means you're not getting through it and if you're not getting through it
00:53:14
how are you healing it you're not you're just keeping it it's just stuck somewhere inside of you I tell you that
00:53:19
literally all the time she does well and it causes so much like anxiety and depression and all of too when we do
00:53:26
that because it it takes so much of us away like it causes such unworthiness and like inner child damage and so much
00:53:34
[ __ ] it comes out different ways like I'll have clients who come in and like I
00:53:38
don't like I love my my like ladies my ladies who come in yeah because you know they come in
00:53:47
and they're like you know I do everything for everyone and I feel like really good about it but I just don't
00:53:53
know like I'm so sad and I'm like you're not not sad you're [ __ ] angry yeah you're doing nothing for yourself right
00:54:00
but you've been socialized to not be angry that's not an acceptable emotion for for people who are socialized girls
00:54:09
right so it's like you're not allowed to be angry God forbid a woman be angry and
00:54:15
so they're like well I don't know why I'm crying all the time I'm like because you want to scream because you want like
00:54:21
goddess energy to come in and like tell everybody to [ __ ] off it's true true it's very
00:54:30
relatable do you people to be angryan it feel it if you feel it it's true I mean that's what it's F because
00:54:40
that's what I tell my kids like I have three girls and I'm always telling them I'm like if you feel angry be angry man
00:54:46
like you are allowed to be angry in this house like you don't have to tell me you're not like so I feel like it's I
00:54:52
feel like there's a new generation of parenting that's hopefully GNA be like I because I know a lot of people all my
00:54:59
friends who have kids are doing the same kind of thing where it's like just let your kid feel how they feel like right
00:55:05
and them identify no right people think that and they're also taught that like from the spirit same spiritual gurus
00:55:13
like oh that's a low frequency emotion yeah no actually it's a high frequency emotion when used correctly we're not
00:55:20
saying like go be abusive to people that's no never but just feel it being allowed to feel it and I always tell
00:55:27
people too like when they think there's entity around like whenever they they think they feel like they're when you
00:55:32
feel sensitive and you're just like oh there's something here I don't like it I don't like it you tell it to [ __ ]
00:55:38
off I love you go no [ __ ] you [ __ ] off and I'm like use the words use those words and the reason why is because that
00:55:45
steps you into your power that raises your vibration that's how you get it gone yeah that makes sense it makes
00:55:52
perfect sense that's how I got them gone from my kids room I was like you're being rud as [ __ ] here
00:55:57
and I don't appreciate it you have to stand your ground yeah we are much more powerful than we think we are it's true
00:56:05
mhm it makes perfect sense do you have any specific tips for people to avoid having an entity attach itself other
00:56:12
than telling it to [ __ ] [Laughter] off so again like in movies and not that this doesn't happen ever but it's it's
00:56:20
more common the other way like in movies it's always like this nice little Rel child who sweet and you know needs to be
00:56:28
corrupted by te it's so excited about corrupting the Sweet Child um that's not usually how it
00:56:36
works so the best way to not get an attachment normally you know in normal cases is just not to be an [ __ ]
00:56:45
that's so easy you know because it sounds so cheesy right but it's like you know
00:56:51
being kind to yourself with your inner dialogue being kind to people out out in the world like helping a stranger if you
00:56:59
see someone needs help and is struggling with something you know buying someone a
00:57:03
coffee if you can like re you know giving up your seat on a bus like very simple things to to protect yourself
00:57:10
because every time you you create kindness It's the opposite of what that entity is looking for yeah so it ra once
00:57:18
again is like little things to not only raise your vibration but starts to raise
00:57:22
the dynamic around you and trickles it out people we're like in a society right now
00:57:28
that is incredibly selfish you know overall it's not everybody thank God but you know we see
00:57:35
the effects of entity every day let me tell you right oh yeah big time so being selfish is the easiest way to get entity
00:57:44
and attachment because you're so insular and unconscious about everybody else's experience the more we open ourselves up
00:57:52
to other people's experience and more we allow that in and we're like oh actually
00:57:57
wow this person's also having a bad day today like I can relate to that I'm not going to something worse to deal with
00:58:03
with my attitude or my whatever you know yeah that helps you not get attachment that's it that makes sense yeah and it's
00:58:11
easy just don't be a dick just don't be a dick I you think it's easy I know well
00:58:16
it's not for some people and if you're having a bad day I guess you know well and you saying like the one of the
00:58:21
important parts of that is being kind to yourself think is one of the hardest things I think it's much easier not to
00:58:28
be a dick to people around you but like I am very guilty of being a complete [ __ ] to myself all the time and like
00:58:36
I like ash is my like self-care Guru She's always telling me like self-care is important and I've been trying to
00:58:42
listen to her but CU you do so much for everybody else and I'm like hello number
00:58:45
one I be really critical of myself like I get impostor syndrome a lot I'm constantly being like yeah no like why
00:58:52
do you don't deserve that like why why you get that and so I'm constantly having to come and I can feel it how
00:58:59
negative it is when I do that to myself so I'm especially lately I feel like you've been like I'm going to give it to
00:59:06
Ash Ash has been helping me to be like no no like be kind to yourself feels better and I feel like I'm a better
00:59:13
person when I'm kinder to myself of course it's weird I told Elena and maybe you can explain this to me I woke up in
00:59:20
the middle this is so strange and I've never really had an experience like this but I woke up in the middle of the night
00:59:27
a week ago maybe and I just said to myself Elena needs to do raiki on her stomach and I should tell her that and
00:59:33
then I it was like I was barely conscious it was just like I Woke up had that thought fell right back to sleep so
00:59:39
I told her the next day and I specifically on her stomach and that was that was the only thing that like came
00:59:45
through I guess but I don't know where that came from I mean again high empaths and you're so linked yeah that's true
00:59:54
having like some wild dream or some wild situation going on and you must have felt it yeah was just so crazy felt that
01:00:02
yeah like you just cuz she told me as soon as we got to work the next morning she was like uh last night I woke up in
01:00:07
the middle of night you need to do this I was like wow yeah and I should do it and it was like specifically your
01:00:12
stomach me yeah like damn like I woke up and this happened and you got to go do it and I'd be like listening to that
01:00:20
right away yeah as soon as she said it I was like I should do that and you said you've been and I didn't even know but
01:00:26
you said like you've had some stomach stuff going on lately yeah cuz it's been we've been so stressed out in the last
01:00:30
few weeks that so I was ATT tribute and I'm sure it was mostly because of that that I've just been like like my I never
01:00:36
have stomach issues like I'm a very like my stomach's like steel like like like I'm like my dad I can like wake up in
01:00:43
the middle of the night and eat buffalo chicken and it's fine oh I wish but the last couple I've just been like uh like
01:00:49
I'm just like feeling off and I think it mostly is because of stress but I was like oh maybe I should do that to help
01:00:54
me out yeah and you're going through you're going through things so sometimes that makes you just more susceptible to
01:01:00
everything so you probably got on that and was like oh nope we got to get that before it gets nope it's true I love
01:01:07
that look at us just being connected and [ __ ] I love it that's so cool so now that we know a little bit more about all
01:01:14
the entities themselves what does a typical day for you I mean because this is your whole last job what does a
01:01:19
typical day for you look like dealing with all of these different things well you know if it's a space uh I get called
01:01:28
to do the space I go and unless I know whatever is there is there um I kind of go take a look see at the space and then
01:01:38
you know diagnose I guess if you will what what needs to be done and what I need to bring and how I need to do it um
01:01:43
I don't like taking other people so I'm always kind of a lone wolf in this situation I don't like being responsible
01:01:49
for other people's safety because in spaces since an entity can hold a space they can take that whole place down if
01:01:56
they want to wow I mean I've been in spaces where they've taken sinks off walls and done all kinds of dam so they
01:02:02
don't usually attack you with themselves I've only had that happen once but they'll pull stuff to attack you you
01:02:09
know yeah so if you got a lot of people around that's harder to control yeah yeah higher probability of getting an
01:02:18
injury that's liability they cause a lot of mass sickness too like Mass mess whatever or injury yeah just everything
01:02:28
so I like to go in by myself which is not the most fun yeah you're bra it's like you don't have a backup yeah so
01:02:38
you're just like okay um occasionally I'll go into if the Space is really bad like with one medium so I don't have to
01:02:44
do that work while like if it's a collector I can let the medium sort of handle those while I work on the just
01:02:51
the entity so in a space depending on how big it is that could last 133 14 hours wow can't stop once you start not
01:03:00
on a person or or a space wow oh okay and why is that well because it starts to agitate The Entity that will start
01:03:09
fighting back and so I have had that happen so like I said you know when it's a space in particular an
01:03:16
entity can control people on mass so I once I clean a lot of sets I'm asked to do Consulting on a lot of horror fil
01:03:25
um TV shows because they're like we're recreating this horrible terrible thing in the space or like in another space
01:03:31
that's wildly just as bad and so we want to make sure that we don't you know have
01:03:36
trouble yeah so I was doing one of those spaces actually this has happened twice
01:03:42
a a space like that and I'll go on to set I'll bring my little tool kit on my you know all my resins and all my BS and
01:03:50
like you know start setting up and inevit well at least in these two times I I'm
01:03:58
keep thinking it's going to happen again though I just keep thinking it's going to happen again I'll have somebody come
01:04:03
up to me and say oh who are you and I'll be like well this is what I'm here for this is what I'm supposed to be doing
01:04:09
and they'll be like oh no no we're not doing that today we can't do that like it's a fire hazard or it's a you know I
01:04:15
wasn't told about this or you're not on the list or you know whatever and I don't argue with that anymore I just go
01:04:21
okay and I pack my little stuff and I leave and then all hell will break loose that
01:04:29
day C back that people will get injured cameras won't work they won't pick up audio or they'll be picking up audio
01:04:35
from someplace they shouldn't or they'll see something they shouldn't be seeing or just something will happen and I will
01:04:42
get a call hours later that's like why aren't you here and I'm like well somebody sent me home and they yeah but
01:04:48
everybody knew you were coming every single person like we had a whole meeting about this like they should have
01:04:54
sent you home so they're like come back so I will go back and that same producer
01:05:00
will come up to me and just like looking at the floor saying I knew you were coming I don't know why I said that I
01:05:07
don't know why I told you to go oh that's [ __ ] creepy that is you can see the shock in the face like they're
01:05:15
practically Tears like I don't know what the [ __ ] yeah I think I may have been
01:05:19
possessed oh that's so scary [ __ ] has happen yeah wow that is like I can't even oh that
01:05:29
did seriously that's intense oo so you've been doing this for a while and you've kind of already touched upon a
01:05:35
couple are there any particularly or can you point to one particularly memorable
01:05:40
or challenging experience that you've had in your whole journey yeah yeah so I keep a journal of
01:05:47
like my scariest exorcisms oh I love that because I want to forget this [ __ ] like case see this again right um and I
01:05:57
okay so one time and this is so bizarre it wasn't even that long ago it was like a
01:06:04
couple years back never happened before never happened since so it was like its own one-off
01:06:12
situation I was contacted to um exercise a space and this was a like a not a hotel but like a very big Inn
01:06:25
um and I have to sign ndas when I sign when I do spaces quite often just because their spaces their places people
01:06:33
go you know yeah they don't want like a bad reputation like they just don't want I'm
01:06:38
very proud to say I don't sign a lot of ndas even with very famous people they trust me but spaces are like a whole
01:06:44
different story yeah makes sense you know I was called into the space they were like there's a lot of shenanigans
01:06:51
going into the space like we've had a lot of workers in the space that like keep Crossing themselves and we'll go
01:06:57
back into falling off ladders and they're seeing [ __ ] and you know it was a sight of a mass fire at one point like
01:07:05
way down it was a really old place and they'd rebuilt it and rebuilt it like kind of in you know different ways than
01:07:12
theyd built it before and now there was somebody coming in who wanted to restore
01:07:15
it to its Old Glory and you know so they were going to open like the next week and they were like we need this out
01:07:23
whatever this is needs to go because all my money's tied up in this and so me being cocky at this point I
01:07:32
was like no problem yeah fine I can do it you know little did I know um so I went into this
01:07:41
space and there were a lot of deceased people in the space like a ton of deceased people in this space and you
01:07:49
all once touched upon I think it was like an Ohio episode episode because Ohio is the craziest most haunted place
01:07:56
and I don't know why Ohio you got a lot going on oh oh does Ohio is crazy it is crazy but you had touched upon how
01:08:05
somebody had said a story about like they could see only part of the ghost because the place had built
01:08:13
and so that you know was that the um Paul Fe episode yes yes it was yep yes good call the coolest person on Earth
01:08:25
human love him so much like I've never met but it is a dream he's a kind kind human truly so uh yeah so in this space
01:08:35
it was kind of like that so you'd see decease people but because they built back differently yeah you know like
01:08:42
you'd see like part of the deceased person because the other part was like on a different floor now or like you
01:08:47
just coming down from the ceiling you know that used to be the floor like oh right exactly so which is always like
01:08:54
weird it's weird even to me now when I see that because I'm like is that an impr because usually it's an imprint so
01:09:01
that just means like they're just reenacting something that they did so that's why they they don't move yeah
01:09:07
they don't see it like that so normally that's very harmless just to put out there like you just see it and it's like
01:09:13
they don't even it's just like an energy trap you know so in this space I got led into a
01:09:21
safe like because you were just like like oh it's not so bad yeah I was like oh it's imprints okay like this is fine
01:09:28
and then wherever this entity is I'll just get this guy out that is not what happened um so I can't get into all the
01:09:35
specifics of it but let's just say that these ghosts in particular were not at all imprints and they were actually
01:09:41
malevolent they've been turned completely malevolent they were not themselves at all like whoever they'd
01:09:45
been in life they were not that anymore wow the entity that held that the space is the only entity that has ever
01:09:53
actually harmed Me by touching me whoa no way I have a scar on my hand like you I don't know you see it but there's like
01:10:02
a line here yeah it it gripped me and it was like a burning sensation down my hand and I it
01:10:13
it was like so jarring that I I don't even quite remember exactly how I reacted to it I know I took a step like
01:10:19
I stepped away and pulled my hand back yeah um but left this like kind of bloody opening oh my god wow terrifying
01:10:30
and I to again to this day I've never dealt with that again it's not normal it's not their normal behavior um so I
01:10:37
continued working I thought about leaving like so many times but I do feel kind of an obligation to do the work too
01:10:45
so I I was like well [ __ ] you know there's going to be like a hundred people here you know next week I can't
01:10:51
just leave it like what am I supposed to could get worse yeah and so it was controlling all of these deceased people
01:10:58
but again not like any collector I'd ever seen like these people were like full possessed it was
01:11:03
crazy like they were like deceased possessed people wow scary so they also were trying to harm you and also trying
01:11:10
to be in the way and like normally when you release them they're like oh thanks you know this time they were like we
01:11:16
don't want that you know like we're not going so I had to leave that portion of it to do its own thing and just work
01:11:25
with the entity and um it was hard it was hard to get this entity out um it was long story short
01:11:33
this entity was attached to something that that was in the space um which is a very specific to this
01:11:41
place thing so I can't say what it was but it is very old and it was used for something it shouldn't have been and so
01:11:48
there you go and so this thing came in and it took me so long and it was so draining to do the work to get it out
01:11:57
and it finally was out and so I left there like [ __ ] up but like oh I did it at least I did it right yeah so
01:12:06
everything's fine fine fine no incidences happened again and I'm like oh okay so that was that I
01:12:15
don't know what it was I'm not quite sure exactly but it's done didn't love that but all right but it turned out
01:12:24
that it was not done um it's technically out of the space but I have seen it around me quite a few times so wow I'm
01:12:33
at this point like okay I did a good job I guess taking that out but like it didn't it didn't destroy it and now I'm
01:12:41
like is it worse that it's out oh that's scary oh that's terrifying wow like at least then it was in the space you know
01:12:52
what I mean right and it's not attached to the object anymore the object's still
01:12:57
in the space yeah wow and now it has like a personal problem with you so that's absolutely terrifying does it
01:13:03
sure does wow made that very clear on numerous occasions when I'm like just driving and there it is or like just you
01:13:10
know wow oh that's so scary so do you have a do you have a process afterwards when you finished this kind of work to I
01:13:18
don't like cleanse yourself some like somehow yeah so I have um protective tattoos that normally work oh cool oh
01:13:26
that's awesome that's really cool yeah and they're they face inward so you don't you're not for other people
01:13:32
they're for me um and that has helped a lot since I've gotten those um but also you know mineral hot springs really
01:13:40
help for me like it sounds weird but like detoxing no it makes sense I've seen that a lot lately it's like trendy
01:13:47
on Tik Tok for ghost I don't know just in general I've seen people doing like mineral baths and they're like shocked
01:13:55
by the [ __ ] that comes out of them regular like yeah yeah no it's really it's really helpful and I have one that
01:14:01
I like that's like three hours away from here it's not too far um so that's really helpful the next day after I work
01:14:08
especially if it's a very difficult space or challenging person I don't really move much like I have to recover
01:14:15
because it takes so much out of you yeah to do this that I'm just like there is no way I'm responsible for anything
01:14:24
today just a little happen cannot um and and depending on like a space like that
01:14:31
that that takes uh a lot a lot of recovery time more time than anything just allowing that negative to to leave
01:14:40
if you will from your own body because there's a certain amount that you take in when you take it out of someone else
01:14:45
that makes sense yeah absolutely wow oh this is fascinating this really is just God
01:14:54
and I have to ask because you mentioned how you can like see these entity attachments on like film or in a in a
01:15:01
photo all that do you see entity attachments over Zoom right now because this room in
01:15:09
particular this is our recording area we've had to move it around a lot and like shift energy a little bit because
01:15:16
there was a point we had this very differently set up and my hair is moving over hair see there's a doll of Ash over
01:15:23
in the corner and it has like string hair and every now and then this the hair will just move around it just
01:15:28
started as you said that we also get like our weird our like our machines will make weird noises like we have a
01:15:34
roadter and it has a soundboard and the laugh or the Applause track will play sometimes at like very specific times
01:15:41
but it will also cut off and there's no way to cut to possibly make that happen so there's been some weird things that
01:15:48
we've been like what's going on in here I don't see entity in there per se and if anything were dangerous I would have
01:15:53
told you like right on the jump what figur that's I was like all right but you do have a lot of deceased people
01:16:00
around you oh I love that so that's interesting because Mikey our assistant has cleansed the space so many times and
01:16:06
he invites our ancestors in here he always invites like well that's why so of course they're just like we're so
01:16:12
proud we're just gonna hang out that's so cool they're just hanging out I think we we've actually asked before cuz we
01:16:19
one day was like a weird day kept happening like things just kept happening used like a little uh what it called
01:16:27
pulum pendulum to ask like are you like a bad thing in here like like are you are are you I think we were like are you
01:16:33
like a family member in here and said yeah so we were like okay yeah for sure we'll go with that especially if it's
01:16:39
putting on Applause like come on yeah just like good job but that's the thing we were like it's got to be it seems to
01:16:45
be leading Us in like good ways defitely does we'll be trying to figure something
01:16:49
out and we'll be like debating it and it will Applause at one of the choices and
01:16:53
we're always like oh we're listening to the roadcast it happened right before we
01:16:56
went on with you actually it did it hasn't happened in like a month yeah we and we were saying it the other day like
01:17:02
oh I don't know if they left or like what happened and then it just happened right before we sat down for this and we
01:17:07
were like oh well [ __ ] there you go that is so funny yeah so like telling you like I'm here here I am okay what's
01:17:14
going on that's really cool I love that that's good to and they do you know they
01:17:18
also like to make themselves known especially when you're having like a bit of a time yeah
01:17:24
that makes sense we're always having a bit of a time I think they're yeah I think they're just like hey they're here
01:17:28
to hang we're here that's probably why I don't see entity either is because you're you're always having a time so
01:17:34
you're just like I'm so used to having a time I'm just I don't have time for yeah
01:17:38
it's just like we try to sail through it yeah we're always cleansing this space or Mikey always is thankfully for Mikey
01:17:45
you cleanse with your space do you know do you do poos Santo yeah poos Santo usually and that's what I use at my
01:17:52
house because I know sage has like specific rules and I never want to [ __ ] it up I just don't think it's as strong
01:17:58
as palosanto really really so I think is a lot stronger and then if you really want to go there you burn uh copal and
01:18:07
then frankincense right after okay I have a ton of Frankin sense so I'll bring some over to the podl yeah we're
01:18:12
always trying to keep it chill like I like to share that a lot that takes entity out of the space if it's
01:18:17
mild and sorry what was the first thing you said opal c o adding it to my cart I pronounce it
01:18:27
whatever whatever local witchy store that we have around us we'll get some I love that place so good on the little
01:18:35
discs or the little discs you know the these guys oh no we don't have those we need
01:18:43
to get so if you have like an ashtray or whatever these are so good and you burn
01:18:49
the loose resins o a resin it's like an amber resin so you just throw it on the disc oh I like that sweet okay we have
01:18:58
to we have to so smoke detectors have to check them first been there done that we'll open some windows I've done that
01:19:05
before and my fiance Drew is like really did you have to do that right now yeah I'm like every once in a while John will
01:19:10
come up here to ask a question he's like what what happening he's like it's real
01:19:13
SMY in here like what is this smell cleansing I'm cleansing we're just cleansing it's okay we're busy right now
01:19:19
okay don't ask questions we're busy cleansing John so going off of that do you have any
01:19:25
advice for anybody who might feel like they have a similar gift to you um yeah you know just try not to block
01:19:36
things out you know people think they're safer when they shut things down and the
01:19:41
reality is that's not true so for example I post on my Instagram frequently about or or and also on Tik
01:19:51
Tok now um my 30-day connection to spirit because people are always like I don't know if I have an entity I don't
01:19:57
know if I need to raise raise my vibration or I want to just talk to my Spirit guides or my deceased loved ones
01:20:02
which is your natural Birthright gift by the way um everyone comes in with it so
01:20:09
I'm like okay here's how you do it where you're going to sit down for 30 days for
01:20:12
five minutes a day and you're GNA ask Spirit to enter your body and it's just a couple of steps right and I'll always
01:20:19
get somebody putting in the comments like this is devil [ __ ] when you ask Spirit to enter your body this is like
01:20:26
bad you don't ask because you'll invite something bad into the body the response
01:20:31
is always that's not true and the reason why it's not true is because you're talking about the difference between
01:20:36
High beings you know Angels ascended masters however you phrase it right high frequency beings versus low frequency
01:20:44
beings low frequency beings do not need your consent that honestly that Mak makes sense yeah they're just going to
01:20:51
come there if they want to if your free will the fact is if if you're the more unconscious you are the better
01:20:59
off they are right but High beings they care about your free will that's why you
01:21:05
have to ask them for help ah that makes so much sense until you ask they want to
01:21:11
but they respect you and they want you to to walk your path however you want to walk your path so you have to ask them
01:21:18
come in please come in and help this yeah so that's the difference so I always say
01:21:25
if you think you know even if you don't think you have a gift you do that's the thing even if you don't you were born
01:21:32
with the ability to speak to your Spirit guides and deceased loved ones it is your Birthright you may not remember how
01:21:38
to do that you may not think you do but if you do this that will open up for you
01:21:44
again that's so I encourage everybody to do it and also like if you're feeling stuck if you feel low vibrational if
01:21:51
you're not sure if you have attach like it's so easy it's free to you yeah there
01:21:58
um and it takes as little as five minutes a day it has it's awesome you know it's something I do it's something
01:22:04
they taught me to do right I want to do that now I know I really love that I'm GNA do that now that's really
01:22:11
cool and you know I'm sure like you were you were just mentioning like people would be like that's devil
01:22:16
[ __ ] I I imagine that you get some push back and some criticism from people who
01:22:22
are not open to it who are Skeptics and what do you do to kind of either ignore it or what do you do to kind of not let
01:22:30
it affect your vibrations like not bum you out or make you angry yeah like I get the both sides so I'll get like very
01:22:39
religious people who tell me that this is also devil's work you know because it's like I I'm not a man I have boobs I
01:22:47
don't know it's like a non denominational kind of situation well yeah right I work I would say even um
01:22:53
multi-denominational is probably more AC than you because everybody's welcome here like love that hell yeah yeah but
01:23:01
like I even get a you know how DMS are you know who slides into the DMs like they just like you look how you look so
01:23:09
therefore this I say whatever I want right or the opposite where you have people who are like this is [ __ ]
01:23:16
whatever don't believe this this person's just like doing whatever I don't know yeah um so for me it's
01:23:24
it's like I I'm not trying to convert you yeah I'm not if you believe it fine if you don't
01:23:32
fine yeah that's okay like it doesn't affect my work yeah like it's doing the work yeah
01:23:40
yeah so you don't have to believe me in fact you know don't um people who who are open to it the
01:23:49
people who are like you know maybe there is something more in the world than I experience or think I experience I think
01:23:56
those people are the people who benefit the most because I don't know it's kind of sad for people who are so closed off
01:24:03
that they're just like there's nothing but this life and that's it and everything that you see and that's all
01:24:09
it's like that's a like that sucks yeah like why wouldn't you want to be open to beings who want to help you
01:24:18
and and guide you through life and want you to know that you're support and not alone right it is a very nice feeling
01:24:25
yeah I love the feeling nice idea yeah yeah because you you know that's the truth though yeah it is the truth like
01:24:33
they're there if you want them to be believe it or not like I get that it's it creates a whole lot of cognitive
01:24:41
dissonance right if you've been taught like the world is one way and then someone's like here's different way of
01:24:47
looking at the world and some people you know looking out here in the world are like I can't possibly question my
01:24:53
beliefs that would be terrible yeah but I think if you do if you are a person who's open to like going well I
01:25:04
don't know maybe yeah that's all it takes down a road of something really beautiful it's true that's all it really
01:25:11
takes is just going maybe Poss like I don't I don't know like I think it's hard to say that you you know everything
01:25:19
like that's the thing like right it's so weird at least a little open to like I don't know everything so there's a very
01:25:28
real possibility that there's something beyond my world scope that I don't know about and I don't know why that's
01:25:35
difficult but I also don't know why apologizing or taking responsibility for nonsense is difficult but some people
01:25:41
very difficult you get it very true you get it you get it the girls that get it it's so
01:25:51
true I think you your question is next oh sorry it is I was just blanking so our
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last question for you actually or second to last yeah second to last is what do you hope that readers are going to take
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away from your book sister of darkness and your experiences as a modern Exorcist oh my gosh
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um I guess I hope the thing that they take back with them the most is that yeah yes okay we all exist in the
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world with all of these things right that's just how it is right yeah but at the same time you are so much more
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powerful than you think that you are I love that and we have the ability to keep ourselves safe we have the ability
01:26:41
to live our dreams we have the ability to manifest things like all of this is in the same realm you know so yeah you
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have all of these low things and that sucks and that can be a trouble yeah right have all of these
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great things you have high beings you have the ability to to create what you want and visualize it for the world and
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you are strong enough to do that one person at a time you know it doesn't we don't have to do it all together at once
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to make a difference in the world one person can make a difference every day I love that that's perfect that's a great
01:27:17
thing to take away from I know it's like very inspiring anyway yeah absolutely yeah and I I know I took a lot away from
01:27:24
it so I know I know anybody who reads it will take just that away from it I would
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say 100% so I appreciate that truly absolutely and honestly because it was such a great book and this has been such
01:27:36
an amazing conversation like you're a fascinating and badass human magical human uh can you do you have any
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upcoming projects coming up you know like anything related to you your work as an exorcist your work as an author
01:27:52
anything yeah so uh well one of the things that we're working on right now is uh taking that journal of mine my my
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scariest most challenging stories and bringing them to uh feature so yeah so I'm really excited about that um and you
01:28:11
know trying to do uh trying to share with the world I guess because I feel like I don't know whenever we see
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exorcism on screen right it's really similar it's like always the same kind of story and the reality is even just
01:28:26
talking today like there are so many other kind a myriad of things yeah so many and I think you know I can't speak
01:28:34
for everyone but like as a horror lover you know and a horror writer like every time I watch them I'm like super psyched
01:28:41
for something different and it's so rarely something different and I'm just like and as an exorcist I'm like damn
01:28:47
this is different you know so now we're we're actually doing that we're literally doing that as we speak right
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now love that yeah I'm super excited about that like we're have our own series of cool [ __ ] to show you that's
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totally so cool excited for that that's awesome thank you yeah and then I've been working um kind of not again not in
01:29:09
secret but it it's not really been announced we've been working on the sister of Darkness scripted TV series
01:29:15
for the last few years um I'm partnered with like the coolest smartest person who ever Wasa Adin oh my God lots of
01:29:27
things but most recently better things um and we've been working on a horror comedy for for FX for the last few years
01:29:34
and we've been writing and writing and writing away like trying to get like the most perfect um
01:29:41
Vibe the toes the line between actually so scary and horrible and we're going to
01:29:46
show you how horrible and scary that is but also really funny and safe feeling oh I love I love when there's a comedy
01:29:52
element that's always really cool yeah yeah but like you know we're really trying to throw it at you like here's
01:29:59
this actually looks and feels right sure um and also dealing with like all the issues because I I grew up in trauma
01:30:07
with my mother my my mother was crazy abusive and um oh that's awful I'm sorry well it's okay she she's long past now
01:30:14
and um she's still comes to me and we've we've worked it out since she's good I'm
01:30:20
glad that's my biggest fear we have we've worked it out since she's died it took her a minute like we've had
01:30:26
such funny conversations though too like at first when she first died she was trying to come in so fast and then I was
01:30:32
like no you're not ready I am not ready for this I had and and we're actually writing about this this is like an
01:30:38
episode of the show we've talked about where I would I was like we're not talking directly I'm getting a medium to
01:30:44
come in and you have to talk to her hell yeah I love that we need a middleman we
01:30:49
doing this my way therap we needed a therapist yeah so that's what we did we and and so until she was like calmed
01:30:57
down enough to have a normal conversation with me oh my God we didn't do it so we went I went to the medum we
01:31:03
had a conversation I was like she's not ready it'll be another six months oh my god wow that's great though that you got
01:31:09
to do it on your terms because when you do go through like an abusive relationship with somebody it's not on
01:31:14
your terms so it's nice that you got to turn that around well and also I found out a lot about things that had happened
01:31:20
to her when she was a child after she died you know that she didn't tell me and not that that makes a huge like
01:31:26
you're if you're an [ __ ] you're an [ __ ] you're being an [ __ ] you know at least then I was like oh okay like I
01:31:32
can get it more you can empathize yeah exactly so I had more empathy for her and eventually she was
01:31:41
like she was that person who took no responsibility in life for absolutely anything so like in death I was like
01:31:48
until you can we're not having conversation we're not having this same relationship happened I'm over here
01:31:53
taking notes I know eventually she did she did she was like oh yeah [ __ ] okay like yeah good you deserve that you
01:32:03
know it's funny working with Pamela because doing better things she was the person who put her own life basically on
01:32:09
you know on display and so now I'm doing that with her and you couldn't do it with a better person because she
01:32:15
definitely knows do it properly for sure but she's so funny because you'll be having a
01:32:20
conversation and you know just going into something like oh this terrible horrible traumatic thing that happened
01:32:27
to me as a child and she'd sits she sits there and then she'll look at you and she'll be like that's funny I can make
01:32:33
that fun I can work with that but she's always right too that's the thing you're
01:32:37
Le you're like what the [ __ ] you're like it was not no no chear me out and you're
01:32:41
like oh my God it is it is funny yeah you're like you know what I feel working through trauma and humor go hand in hand
01:32:49
100% exactly yeah exactly and it's nice working with someone who has navigated that so well right and makes you feel
01:32:58
really safe like she be I don't I don't know what she'd say to it but I think she'd be super honored that I like she
01:33:04
makes me feel safe but she does she makes me feel safe through that because it is hard this is hard stuff to talk
01:33:09
about not just the but the work like I didn't know like what one of the reasons why I didn't tell people and haven't
01:33:16
been that active or you know out there as much as I guess I'm starting to now because this is a hard thing to be out
01:33:23
there with absolutely yeah it's not for everybody I'm not for everybody yeah you
01:33:30
know so I was really hesitant about you know doing stuff out there um but it seems like it's time and it's nice to
01:33:40
have you know people who navigate that with you absolutely yeah of course that make you
01:33:46
feel safe about your decision to do it yeah exactly exactly that's awesome I'm so excited for everything that you have
01:33:54
coming up well thank you so much I appreciate that I'm I'm excited to share something new with the world you know
01:34:01
the world needs it I was gonna say the world is going to be excited to receive it so let's go yeah and thank you so
01:34:08
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01:34:15
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