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New Moon: Bonus Episode

January 31, 2026 / 02:38:43

This episode covers the film "New Moon," discussing its soundtrack, character developments, and themes of love and heartbreak. Hosts Ash and Elena analyze the dynamics between Bella, Edward, and Jacob, as well as the introduction of the Volturi and Quileute tribe lore.

Ash and Elena highlight the film's soundtrack, noting contributions from artists like Death Cab for Cutie and Muse. They express differing opinions on the soundtracks of the first and second movies, with Ash favoring the second.

The hosts discuss character appearances, particularly Bella's hair and the portrayal of the Volturi. They also touch on the Quileute tribe's representation and the implications of their lore in the story.

Key moments include Bella's emotional turmoil after Edward leaves her, her reckless behavior to see him again, and the introduction of Jacob's werewolf transformation. The episode culminates in discussions about the climax involving the Volturi and Bella's decision to become a vampire.

Throughout the episode, Ash and Elena provide commentary on the film's themes, character motivations, and the impact of toxic relationships, making connections to their own experiences and societal expectations.

TLDR

Hosts Ash and Elena discuss "New Moon," exploring its soundtrack, character dynamics, and themes of love and heartbreak.

Episode

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Hey weirdos, I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And it's time for a [ __ ] new moon bonus. [music]
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>> Time [ __ ] >> We've been so excited for this. I'm [ __ ] lit right now. >> It's about to get cuckoo nuts bananas up
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in this [ __ ] >> It's about You're about to sit in a chair for four months. [laughter]
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>> Is what you're about to do. >> There's a possibility. >> There is a possibility that you will Can
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I listen? We're just going to jump right in. >> Yeah. At one point she's looking out
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that window. I think it's in October and there's just rand like that's her sideyard.
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>> Yeah. There's a whole family walking through her yard. >> Why? And they we are to we are to
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believe that they that there are woods right there. So I'm like >> they just emerge from where they come
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from. Like why are they just walking outside of your I always think that when I see
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>> Halloween goes nuts I guess. >> Yeah. We're uh we're we're talking about new moon. Everybody
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>> I hope you watched. I hope you read. I hope you got the illustrated guide. I hope you've been on Stephy's website.
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>> I hope you have. >> I hope you've done it all. But the good news is if you've done none of those
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things, we've done it for you. >> Here we are. [laughter] >> Here we are, [ __ ]
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>> Uh, it came out in 2009. >> 2009. >> 2009. This one's directed by Chris Whites this time, not Catherine
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Hardwick. Apparently, it was the short production time that got her cuz she didn't want to have to like she didn't
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think she could get the story with script right in like because it was like a year or something.
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>> It was very quick. It was a real quick turnaround. Yeah. Um, so that's interesting. This one
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we also got I mean this one has a banger soundtrack as well. >> This I think of all the movies this one
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has my favorite soundtrack. >> Really? Yeah. I think maybe >> I think so. Yeah. >> I really like the first soundtrack.
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>> I like the second one better. But I do like the first one. >> I mean this one has death cab for cutie.
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>> How can you go wrong? >> Tom York. It's got Muse. Oh, I belong to you. The new moon remix. Remix.
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remix. >> That's honestly where it's at. And then you have the It's a possibility.
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[singing] >> Was that Licky Lee? >> Yeah. Yep. And it's called Possibility. >> Possibility. Look it up. [laughter]
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>> There's also that one. Okay. Go, I think. Shooting the moon. >> Oh, yeah. You're right.
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>> Loved that song. >> That's a good one, too. >> Oh, >> damn. All right. We really We're killing
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it with this. And Meet Me on the Equinox by Death Cap for Cutie. Banger. >> So, of a time. Yeah, it will transport
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you right back there. >> It's a very hipster time. >> Oh, yeah. >> Of skinny time.
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>> And scarves like the cloth scarves and that one jacket that everybody had. >> Yeah, that one jacket. I know exactly
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what you're talking about. Yeah. >> Or like gray sometimes. >> Yep. It could be gray. It could be
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green. >> Mhm. >> But damn, everything just killing it. >> We loved it. And you know, they they
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seem to have gotten um Bella's hair is really right in this one. >> And do you know how much awfuler it's
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going to get, though? >> Yeah. >> Her hair's so good in this movie. >> Yeah. >> The next movie, her hair, we
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>> everywhere. >> Her hair is something infidelities. >> Her hair is absolutely screaming
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[laughter] infidelities. And >> yeah, >> I don't know. I don't know. Um, what's interesting to me is I think Al doesn't
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Alice's hair look longer in this one. >> In this one, yeah, it does a little bit.
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>> Um, according to the illustrated guide, hair doesn't grow if you're a vampire.
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So, I'm not really sure how that happened. >> Maybe she's just styling it differently.
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>> Maybe. >> Maybe. >> Who can be sure? I'm trying to think of Oh, Rosaly in this one. Goddess.
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Goddess. >> She looks amazing. She >> honestly she looks amazing in everything. >> Her hair looks really good in this one.
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It's a wig. >> Yeah, it looks great. But it's a good wig. Great wig. Like this one's real
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good. >> Um, and Rosalie is not in it a lot in this one, but when she's in it, she
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makes a [ __ ] impact. Her statement at the end, I was like, "Ooh, yeah." >> And we'll talk about it, don't worry.
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Um, Jasper's hair looks absolutely [ __ ] insane. Jasper is absolutely [ __ ] insane.
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>> The Confederate soldier's hair looks just outrageous. >> Yeah, it has also grown somehow. I don't
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know. >> No, no, I didn't. >> I'm not really sure. >> Couldn't >> Couldn't Couldn't have done it.
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>> Couldn't have done it. >> Won't uh he looks like a wild animal. >> Yeah, >> very much so.
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>> Um and and he becomes one and he does shortly, which makes absolutely no sense, but we'll talk about that when we
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get there. >> We're going to talk about that as well. Um I'm just trying to think of anybody
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else. Charlie looks Charlie looks like a [ __ ] certified snack. >> Charlie somehow looks even better. He
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does. >> Like I'm like, "Wow." >> Agreed. Uh yeah, when he first walks in, like we'll get to it with the birthday
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presents. I was like, "Hi, Charlie. >> Hey, >> hi dad." [laughter] >> Like, what's going on?
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>> Hi, Zatty. >> So, everybody looks great. We don't have to really deal with Bella's mom, which
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is great cuz we hate Rene. >> Can't stand Renee. >> Rene is the worst. >> Cannot stand her.
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>> Of course. Of course, Bella's having a [ __ ] meltdown crisis. >> I think at one point in the book, it
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it's described as a walking coma. >> Yeah. She's suffering and Rene's nowhere to be found.
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>> Nowhere. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's It's fine. She's got her, you know, she's got her minor league
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baseball player boyfriend. Yeah. >> So, it's pretty serious. Phil. >> Yeah. There you go, Phil. Uh, we do meet
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some new >> folks in this one, which maybe we're going to we're going to meet the Vuri.
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>> I love the Vuri. >> I too very much love the Vuri. >> I love one person in particular and you
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love one person in particular and they're a different person. And I absolutely know that everyone knows that
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I love Arrow so much. >> Yeah. >> His insane laugh. >> Is that in this movie or is that in a
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later one? >> He does one in this. He's He's known to do many. >> But there's one
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>> there's one in a later >> I think it's Breaking Dawn. >> It is Breaking Dawn. I think
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>> I can't When we get there does a [ __ ] sick impression of it. [laughter] >> It's true.
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>> Sick in every sense of the word. >> Yeah. He's played by Michael Sheen and I think he just eats that role up. He was
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made for that. >> He really was. >> Marcus Marcus, >> tortured Marcus who looks like he's
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literally [ __ ] himself and is like [laughter] suffering the worst gastrointestinal pain of all time.
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>> He's in such distress. In the movie, I was like, "What the [ __ ] is wrong with
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that guy?" >> And here's the thing. When we get to it, I'll explain who all these people are.
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I'll explain their backstories from the illustrated guide once again. So all these are directly from Stephanie
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Meyers's own brainium. Um some of them even have conflicting information about themselves within the same paragraph. So
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that's fun >> fun and new. Um and we'll get to like some of these little uh some of the
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little things like you know >> we mention imprinting in this one. >> You're shuttered. Uh, we are going to
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learn about finally the werewolves in this one. We we didn't really have it going on in Twilight. Um, we get to see
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why the Quillute tribe, which is a real tribe. Yeah. >> Why they have mixed feelings about this
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whole thing. >> Yeah. >> And by mixed feelings, we mean like aren't really happy about it.
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>> Yeah. There's there one of the things is they didn't get compensated for the story essentially. I mean, they're a
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massive their lore one isn't exactly this lore. It's it's been twisted a little bit.
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>> Uh and so there's that which is not great. >> Yeah. >> And then also the lore is used for a
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very large part of this story and they just kind of saw nothing except for people trapesing around trying to like
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get a glimpse. >> Yeah. Like kind of becoming tourist attractions and that's >> that's so American.
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>> Not great. Yeah. >> Um, not great at all. Uh, they did establish um PE people of the tribe establish the
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Truth versus Twilight initiative >> and it's via the Burke Museum and apparently it's to like combat the the
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uh false part of the narrative. >> That's so shitty that they kind of Yeah. Like they just wanted to they just
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wanted to like counter what was right and truth and what was made up for Twilight, right? Um, so we'll get back
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we'll get into that as well. But I the never being compensated thing I was like that's a bummer. That's really shitty
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>> cuz I also just I'm like if you're going to make up like this story and this lore
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and have it involve >> real people real like it's like why you should have just made up a whole if
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completely fictionalize like meaning fictionalize >> who these people are >> if you're you know what I mean cuz it's
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I feel like it's worse to take from real and use the real Quill tribe name >> and I mean I am not part of the quill
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tribe obviously. So, I'm speaking from a totally outsider point of view, just what
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>> it looks like to me. Um, but I don't know. I feel like I would be a little annoyed by that.
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>> Yeah, probably. >> But you can only do what you can do. >> Yeah. >> And either way, the werewolf shape
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shifter thing does become like a central part of this whole thing, which is what
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we've been waiting for. We finally are going to get the true Bella, Jacob, and Edward triangle. It's the beginning
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right here. This is where it begins. Especially the end of this movie like really heats it up for Eclipse and it's
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just >> Yeah. wild. >> Cuz I feel like you couldn't come out of Twilight, the first movie or the first
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book, and truly be like, "Are you team Jacob or are you team Edward?" Cuz there was no team like you were
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>> Well, and you barely saw Jacob. Yeah. Like And >> and Jacob kind of felt like this like
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younger brotheresque thing almost like you know like you he wasn't even on your radar. And then even in even in New
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Moon, it's hard to choose because Edward has just basically been >> dominated the whole thing.
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>> Not only dominated the whole thing, but is an [ __ ] in in New Moon. >> Yeah. Like true.
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>> It's hard to be team Edward in New Moon. >> Yeah. And you you do feel like I felt so
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bad for Jacob at times in this one. >> Mhm. >> Because I felt like, damn, he just got
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like full-blown used. [laughter] >> No, he really did. And she basically says as much at one point.
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>> Yeah. >> Like she's pretty [laughter] pretty. >> She's like, "Yeah, I'm just going to
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hang out with you because like I don't really want to >> because I'm kind of losing my mind
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without, oh, you want you want to vroom vroom on these bikes, Jacob? [laughter] >> You want to you want to go for a ride?"
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>> But then when he and we'll get to it obviously, but then when he's basically like, I'm not going to give up. And I
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was like, you do have to at some point though when somebody has told you they're not interested.
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>> Yeah. >> You can't just keep going. Well, is it like a weird thing because he like with the imprinting stuff like
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obviously later and we'll get into that like when the time comes, but he imprints on Reneesme who's like uh
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Edward and Bella's baby, >> an infant. >> An infant. [laughter] Like I said, we'll
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get there. But it's like did something like in him inherently know that that was going to like not like consciously,
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but that's why he couldn't be rid of Bella or is he just [ __ ] obsessed with it? No, I think he's just obsessed
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with I think he's honestly I think he's like in love with her. He's like very or
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like whatever it is infatuated. >> Infatuated and and the problem is like I said before like when someone says
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they're not interested. You got to move on. She doesn't >> really say it. >> She kind of like is like she doesn't say
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it till the end. Yeah. You know, like the end she makes it it's always going to be him. I'm going to pick him every
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time. That's clear as day. So that's when it's like, but before that, you're like, you need to be a little clearer to
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him. >> Well, that's the thing. You're like nuzzling up on him. You're like almost
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kissing him a lot. You're telling him these beautiful days together >> and then you're just kind of being like,
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and it's like just be a little more upfront. Like just say no, it's okay. Just say like not interested, not going
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to be interested. >> From what I remember of the third one, like I feel really bad for Jacob in this
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one because of all that. But then in the third one you're like, "Okay, Jacob, [ __ ] you."
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>> Well, that's exactly because it's like in this one they really set you up to be
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like, >> "Oh, that poor kid. That poor kid." Until it gets to the end and then you're
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kind of like, >> "All right, >> [ __ ] going on here." And then in the third in Eclipse, you're like,
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>> "Okay." Like it's like >> I'm getting a restraining order. >> Yeah. And then there's also like Edward
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can be a dick. It's like this is just toxic [ __ ] Edward Bella's relationship is the most literally this is from
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>> this is from the website in the description of New Moon Stephanie wrote for Bella Swan there is one thing more
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important than life itself Edward Cullen >> I would like to go on record that like
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when I'm a mother if any [ __ ] lore like this ever emerges in my household [laughter]
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like if if I ever find a book that says this [ __ ] on the back of anything if [laughter] anything like near it. I'll
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sit my girlies down and be like, "Girls or or boys or whoever, what the [ __ ] is
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this? This is so not okay." >> Yeah. >> Like I think about my mom letting me watch this. I'm like, "Did you read
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this?" That's the thing. Like >> this is so toxic. I feel like this is like, you know what it is? It's like this is
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like when you read these things as an adult like these dark romances where like it's a morally gray love interest
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and all that that becomes like >> appropriate in a way that you can distinguish that from
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>> Yes. >> your real life. You know what I mean? Cuz like >> cuz like right now like I'm read by the
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way I'm reading Fantasma >> um by Kaylee Smith. I really hope I got I think you're right. Let me just make
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sure I get on your counter, but I don't know. >> Is it right next to me? >> Oh, yeah. [laughter]
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>> I was like, wait, I I keep bringing it around with me. I wanted to make sure I
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got her name right. It's Fantasma by Kaylee Smith. Such a good book. It's like a horroresque
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dark romance. >> Really good. And also like fantasy in there cuz it's like >> so like dark romanty.
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>> Yeah. And like the the love interest is this like phantom obsessed >> named Blackwell who's like very morally
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gray. And I'm but I'm literally like spend the rest of your days with him. Like I'm like that's
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>> but in real life John is very much not Blackwell the Phantom who's morally gray.
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>> I I can >> you know like he's a good guy. Like it's like when you're an adult you can sit
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there and be like oh get it girl and then like you can be like but I love this man who's a good man.
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>> But I feel like what you were saying like there was such young girls reading this. I thought this was top tier
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romance. >> And this is for this to be where you get your like, oh, this is love. This is
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pure. >> This man leaving you in the woods in a coma is real love. >> Coming from like now an adult point of
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view and a parent point of view. I'm like, [ __ ] Like, [laughter] >> abandon me in the woods and run away
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from me with your whole family. So, I know it's real. >> So, I [laughter] know >> like what?
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How does he get the whole family involved? >> Everybody has to leave. >> The last family like Qua and where does
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everybody? So unclear where everybody goes. >> Very unclear. >> Where does everybody go?
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>> I also here's the thing and again we're going to get to it. But >> ob during this whole thing, Edward
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appears to Bella in a vision, right? whenever she's doing some reckless [ __ ] >> Mhm.
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>> And it like so when I f I don't remember reading this like I I remember that I
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read this book. I didn't remember like all the details >> and then I remember seeing the movie.
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Not once did I ever know until about 20 minutes ago when Ash informed me that she was not actually seeing. And I
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thought he was somehow projecting himself cuz in the books she only hears him. Yeah,
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>> she doesn't see him. And in the movie, obviously, they wanted that visual element, so they have him appear. I
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thought he was really projecting himself. And I thought that's why he said, "Don't be reckless." Cuz he was
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like, "I don't want to have to project myself." >> No, she just knows that he would say
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that. >> But that's why I'm like, >> but I get what you're saying cuz it's not super obvious.
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>> Cuz I'm like, you set this up so to not be clear. >> Yeah. Well, in her mind, it is very
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clear. >> It's not. So, this is this is from uh Stephanie Meyer's like actual website,
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like the archives. Um, this is frequently asked questions from New Moon. Was Edward somehow physically
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connected to Bella with the whole hearing voices thing? Or if you're watching the movie, like the seeing him.
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>> Yeah. She says, "No." So powerfully was Bella's subconscious knowledge trying to
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break through her weheaded notions that it produced some very convincing delusions. I'm not surprised that people
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thought in the beginning that Edward was somehow there. Wishful thinking on all of our parts. However, I am surprised
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that people continued to think this after a certain event that made it impossible to believe that Edward was
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aware of Bella's circumstances. Can you guess what it was? Laurent in the meadow. If Edward had any inkling of the
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fact that Victoria had returned for Bella, no matter how far away on the planet he was, he would have been back
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to Forks within 24 hours. [snorts] Here's the thing, that's not that clear. >> She was in imminent danger a couple of
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times. She got on the back of that motorcycle. He go he's watching her go like do these stupid things,
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>> you know, or like in if you think that he is watching. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that this is him projecting.
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If that's what you thought, which is what I thought, >> then it would be like but no, I've seen
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if I think he's really appearing, then I've seen him let her do this stupid [ __ ] over and over again,
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>> right? >> And it's like who's to say that Lorent isn't bullshitting, >> you know? Like to me that didn't seem
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very serious when he said it. I thought he was bullshitting at first. >> What? >> Like like if I would like Laurent like I
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could Victoria was back. >> Yeah. Like I could see cuz he does do kind of like a flipperoo where like in
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the first movie in the first book he like he kind of works with the Cullens and like helps warn them and then he
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does this like flipperoo where he's just like I don't know. I guess I'll just eat
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you now. And it's like what the [ __ ] like it does seem a little like you know >> like what's going on here which like I
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guess he's hungry vampire clearly and his eyes are like bright red so he's clearly hungry like or has you know he's
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going >> he just doesn't give a [ __ ] he's wild now you know but [snorts] >> I don't know I just that would that
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didn't I think it didn't hit hard enough for me >> well I mean obviously it didn't hit hard
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enough for a lot of people because it's a frequently asked question >> yeah like you you wonder I'm like yeah
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to me it just felt like it made more sense to me that there was some kind of like telepathic connection between them
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where he could project himself into her thoughts or into her space there, especially when it was just a voice.
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>> Yeah, >> that made more sense to me. Thinking now that like she was just literally losing
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it, >> like literally having delusions >> auditorially and visually hallucinating
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him is so much more upsetting. >> Well, she is like >> like that's really >> This is sick.
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>> Yeah. When now that I know that I'm like this is even worse than I thought. >> But I mean she tells us on the back of
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the book there is one thing more important than life itself. >> Edward Cullen. Like that is fizzy fizzy
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[ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Like obviously like people like like you love your children more than life itself
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or you love like >> that's really the only thing I can think of is that like you love your children
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more than life itself. >> They've been together at this point for months. They're teenage. Well, she's a
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teenager. >> They're teenage. And I'm also like you've presumably never loved a boy
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before. Like which of course >> when you love someone for the first time? >> It's so
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>> it is all consumed. And it's not to say that like I'm not sitting here being like what the [ __ ] Get over it. Like I
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was a [ __ ] wreck over >> much bigger losers than Edward Cullen. >> Let me tell you.
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>> Let's be real. >> Distraught. >> Yeah. >> Not this distraught. Oh my god. >> Not not walking coma distraught and like
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sitting alone at a lunch table >> getting on the back of losers motorcycles >> jumping off a cliff.
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>> Jumping off a like this is I'm sorry. >> Screaming in the middle of the night.
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That's exactly [laughter] >> that. >> I would call the doctor. >> I'd call someone.
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>> I would absolutely on the be on the phone with the doctor. >> Mom, pick me up. I'm scared. Doctor,
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call in something because this is >> we got to do something about this. >> I mean, poor Charlie.
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>> Poor Charlie. But also, I'm like, Charlie, call someone. Like, who does he call
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>> a professional? >> I don't Who's the professional? >> Psychologist, a psychiatrist. Bring her
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to the fact that nobody brings her to the hospital >> is cuckoo nuts. >> It is cuckoo nuts. like this is
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obviously this is fiction but if this was really happening you would be like we have to get you evaluated
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change here >> and in instead Charlie's like I'm going to send you back to Arizona because this
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is not okay and I'm like I don't think uprooting her and sending her to live to Arizona he does say that the mom is also
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in on that which makes most sense >> that actually makes sense come on back >> yeah I'm like you don't even have a
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permanent address Renee >> I know cuz they're in like Jacksonville I think at that point Yeah.
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>> Um >> or they were >> who knows? But >> when we start this whole thing too, this
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whole thing really relies on age. >> Yes. I mean, it starts off. >> She harps and harps. This is an
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18-year-old girl. Let me tell you, from from my aged position over here, >> Yeah.
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>> pissing me off listening to her complain. When she gets up and is like, "Do I have a gray hair?" I'm like, "Go
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[ __ ] yourself. Unless you ring me on the horn when you have to buy a box of dye every couple weeks just to
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make sure you don't look like, you know, mother time over here. >> Can I tell you something? Drew didn't
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know that you dyed your hair. >> That is the greatest compliment I've ever heard in my life.
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>> Drew did not know >> that just that you dyed your hair. >> That just And then here I'm outing him
00:22:54
fully. He's going to be so >> I go, she gets gray sometimes. Like, have you not seen that? And he goes, "I
00:23:01
just thought that was like her roots." And [laughter] and I said, "Well, yeah, >> that are gray
00:23:07
>> that like if that kept growing, her hair would be gray. [laughter] >> So when it goes away, it's cuz she dyes
00:23:14
it." And he was like, >> "Oh, [laughter] okay." >> We had like an hourong conversation
00:23:21
about it. And then I was like, >> like we we talked about family hair. I was like, "Are you all right?"
00:23:26
>> [laughter] >> Oh, are you And then we talked about like how red heads occur in families. It
00:23:31
was crazy. >> I'm obsessed with that. >> Yeah. I had to I had to bring back the the lore of Punet squares.
00:23:36
>> He the >> No, I literally was like, "Do you remember punit squares and like recessive traits?" And he was like kind
00:23:42
of No, actually I That's probably his exact reaction. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:46
>> I love that he didn't know. That honestly just made me feel so good cuz I'm like, "Well, damn."
00:23:50
>> He had no idea. >> We're keeping it looking real here, so that's good. >> Later in the argument, he was like,
00:23:54
"Well, no." Like I knew she dyed her hair and I was like, "No, when this started you had no idea." I said, "No."
00:24:00
>> I love that a lot. >> Yeah, it was wild. >> I love it. Um, so that's amazing. But
00:24:05
yeah, the that the whole age thing is is a real thing. >> They come after 40year-olds in
00:24:11
particular later. >> They sure do. >> I thought was going to eat her computer across
00:24:15
>> a [ __ ] across the room. >> Uh, but it begins with Bella being like an elder.
00:24:23
>> Yes. And it's like her and she's having a dream about her and Edward and she's
00:24:28
an older woman. She's an elder and they're in the meadow and he says, "Happy birthday, Bella."
00:24:33
>> Um, she's beautiful. >> She's a beautiful woman. Debbie thought she was Jane Goodall.
00:24:38
>> Yeah. I was like, damn. RIP. >> RIP. Um, but I understand her pissiness here cuz like if my boyfriend is hot and
00:24:50
immortal and is never going to age and outright refuses to allow me the experience of staying
00:24:58
hot and never aging. >> Mhm. >> I'd break up with him. >> Yeah. You're not going to make me age.
00:25:06
Like that's not something that's [laughter] going to happen. >> You won't do it. as somebody who has a
00:25:09
whole [ __ ] arsenal of skin care right now trying to make it so that I don't look like a prune in the next few years.
00:25:18
>> If my boyfriend had if John had venom in his veins that he could just give to me
00:25:25
to make it so I stop this and I never have to put like I love Metacube but I would never have to do my full metacube
00:25:34
process ever again. Yeah. >> And he was like, "No, I won't do that for you. >> Leave.
00:25:40
>> Deal breaker. >> Find you. There's obviously more vampires out there. >> Yeah. What the [ __ ]
00:25:45
>> Find somebody who will." >> I I asked him recently. I was like, "Would you?" Cuz I was I was like going
00:25:51
through this and thinking about it. I was like, "Would you do that for me?" >> He was like, "Of course I would. Why
00:25:56
not?" >> I don't That's the That's the big like plot hole here is like, "Why not?"
00:26:01
>> And I think it's And it's the whole soul. [ __ ] that. Yeah. [ __ ] that. when
00:26:05
like eventually well and then by the end of this like spoiler alert he's gonna have to because now the [ __ ] now he
00:26:11
has to but he's even trying to get out of it then I know >> that [ __ ] I'm like godamn I
00:26:16
would I'd start I'd be sus I'd be like who is it that you have that would be my crazy thought process especially at 18
00:26:24
years old >> he's not he's not changing me into a mortal baddy >> who is your immortal baddy that you will
00:26:32
not you're just waiting for me to age You got a side piece. What the [ __ ] is going on?
00:26:37
>> I'd be pissed. I didn't like it. Uh, this is It's her birthday. She's turning
00:26:41
18. >> Yeah. >> We see Charlie. He brings in adorable little And she she loves purple and he
00:26:46
wrapped them in purple. A >> It was very sweet. And he looks so good. He does. The first shot of Charlie, I
00:26:52
was like setting us off, right? >> Yeah. >> Um, she get she gets a digital camera
00:26:57
and it's like a pink digital camera and it brought me back. >> Oh, yeah. I had a blue one. Oh, I loved
00:27:03
it. I remember one, I think. But >> remember taking mirror pics with your camera.
00:27:07
>> Yeah, they had to be in the picture. >> Yep. >> And there's another part when she goes
00:27:12
to school and she sees everybody and she goes to take a picture of all of them and she You used like two hands to take
00:27:19
a photo. >> Yeah, cuz nobody steady. >> Yeah. She does that like mouth thing where she goes
00:27:28
>> her bottom lip in >> and she like blinks a lot and holds it up with one hand and just is like
00:27:35
>> and when she does it she makes this face like oh this is really hard >> and she snaps that photo with one finger
00:27:41
and I said that's blurry. >> Yeah, >> that's blurry. Nobody can tell me that's not blurry.
00:27:45
>> She also when they're like oh like Bella it's the big day like yay like I'm excited to see you. She takes that
00:27:51
camera and is like, "My mom wants me to like make a scrapbook of memories, so I guess I'll take a couple of pictures of
00:27:57
you [ __ ] idiots that I hang out with from time to time. [laughter] I don't even [ __ ] like you."
00:28:02
>> No, she It's giving the energy of like, "You guys are [ __ ] scoundrels and I
00:28:05
hate you, but post this [ __ ] picture." >> Yeah. She's like, >> "I would never commit your images to
00:28:12
film." >> No, she wouldn't. >> But my mom said I had to. I was like, "Are you 18?"
00:28:16
>> Rene wants me to make a [ __ ] scrapbook smile. stay being friends with her. I think
00:28:23
it's one of those ride or dies right here. >> They are. In fact, I think it's one of
00:28:27
those things, especially for Mike, is like you want the girl that doesn't want you,
00:28:32
>> I guess, cuz she doesn't want anybody like she's >> and that's why everybody including
00:28:36
friends, she doesn't want any of that. >> Yeah, it's wild. >> Honestly, Jessica is the realest [ __ ]
00:28:41
in this entire thing. And we'll get to her. >> And I remember thinking when I was
00:28:45
younger that she was such a [ __ ] >> They set her up to be. They set her up to be like they like the the they know
00:28:53
who they're playing to. >> Yeah. >> And because you watch it as a younger person, you're like, "Oh my god,
00:28:57
Jessica, like why don't you understand what Bella's going through?" You watch as an adult, you're like, "Oh my god,
00:29:02
Bella, you're the worst [ __ ] friend ever, and can you just listen to her problems, too?"
00:29:06
>> No, of course you won't. No, >> of course you won't. And behind her, Edward pulls into the parking lot and
00:29:11
takes up three spaces. >> Thank you. >> I parks at least three spaces. Let me tell you because I have personal
00:29:18
experience with this horizontally. >> I went on a date with a guy that did that and when he got out of the car and
00:29:23
I sat in the car, he had to like run in and do something. I said, "This will be our first and last date. I will never go
00:29:29
out with this man again." >> Are you you out there? >> If you're listening right now, do you or
00:29:37
someone you love do that? Do you park across three [ __ ] spaces horizontally like a [ __ ]
00:29:46
>> snicker doodle [ __ ] I had never >> What is that? >> Like a snicker doodle? [laughter]
00:29:52
>> I don't know. >> It's the closest thing. I don't know. >> Do you do that? Like a snicker
00:29:57
[laughter] doodle [ __ ] You said that with such gusto. I said, "Is that a thing?" [laughter]
00:30:02
>> It's a thing that snicker doodle. >> I made it up. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. [laughter] I just needed I
00:30:08
needed something. if it hits for me. Okay. I thought you were going to say like like a [ __ ] No, like a
00:30:14
snicker doodle [ __ ] No, I just remember like having that experience and being like
00:30:20
>> Yeah, that's looking at it on film. I don't know how I didn't notice it before
00:30:26
because now I just noticed it too >> and I was like like immediately was like oh god I'd be like get the [ __ ] back in
00:30:33
that car and you park like you want to pretend you're a human. Get back in the car and park like a [ __ ] human.
00:30:38
Gibb's like, "I'm more important than these two other people." >> What the? I'm like, "Fuck you."
00:30:43
>> In your Volvo. Like at my school, they would tow you. >> Yeah. They'd [ __ ] take your car away
00:30:49
forever. >> In my school, they just throw a bunch of baloney on your car. Go ahead. At the
00:30:53
end of the day, take that off. Takes the paint right off. >> First, she hits us with snicker doodle
00:30:58
[ __ ] And then she tells us that at her school, which I went to, by the way, that they [laughter] would throw baloney
00:31:05
at your car. What is the dark lore there? [laughter] What did somebody who hurt you?
00:31:13
>> Nobody did. What? I've I've I've heard about it. Okay. >> What? It's happened. It's happened.
00:31:22
Baloney will take the paint right off [laughter] their baked school officials do that.
00:31:29
>> The principal out here like, "Make it a great [laughter] day or not, I'm going
00:31:32
to throw baloney at your car." I'm just saying. I would throw bologoney at his [laughter] car. That's crazy. Also, the
00:31:40
fact that baloney takes the paint off of car and and cars and people still eat it
00:31:44
is that should tell you something. >> It is [laughter] rauny. >> Also, they kiss in this um scene and
00:31:52
it's porn. [laughter] >> Cuz Bell is like like they barely keep it together. like they are
00:32:02
so glad for them [laughter] that they're having that experience every single time
00:32:06
they kiss. Maybe have it at at home. >> That those are private moments like [laughter] not in the middle of the
00:32:12
school parking lot cuz both of them look like I was like >> do you need a minute? Like what?
00:32:18
>> Those are the noises [laughter] that they literally nuts. >> It's frightening.
00:32:22
>> It is. And then so they have their porn kiss and then Jacob shows up and is like
00:32:29
Bella. And he's like, "I got a birthday present for you." She looks over and says, "Jacob." And then she does this
00:32:35
hair tuck thing where she's like [laughter] >> like this very like like giddy like
00:32:40
coetish like and she literally >> goes to tuck her hair behind her ear in that like way.
00:32:47
>> Yeah. >> And then she's like, "Hello biceps. Your tongue was just in your boyfriend's
00:32:54
throat. >> Actually, it wasn't because she would have passed out had that been the case.
00:32:58
>> That's very true. But >> basically, >> the the idea was there. >> It was implied.
00:33:04
>> And then you turn around, get super giddy about this. >> Got to fix your hair immediately
00:33:10
>> and then say, "Hello, biceps." >> I can tell you right now, I don't know that John would be super
00:33:18
understanding of this. No, Drew definitely. >> Here's the thing. I do know that John
00:33:22
would not be super understanding about that's just I'm like I know that I wouldn't be super understanding about
00:33:28
this. >> No. >> Had this been flipped around. >> I'm barely understandable about like
00:33:32
celebrities that this would not go over well. Also, Bella, today's your 18th birthday.
00:33:40
Jacob's 16. Yeah. Leave his biceps alone. >> Leave his biceps. Those baby biceps.
00:33:45
>> It is. Now they run into Alice and Alice is wearing like a paint smok. >> Yeah.
00:33:51
>> As an outfit. Yeah. >> Um she looks adorable though. >> Yeah. She's cute >> even in the paint smok. Her hair did
00:33:56
grow. >> It did. >> The whole time they're talking because Alice wants to plan a party for Bella's
00:34:01
birthday. >> You know, she just wants to have the Cullins. It's very strange. >> Yeah. Weird.
00:34:05
>> Uh Jasper, our Confederate soldier guy back there, he is just like losing his
00:34:12
He's He's like in the back. He's losing his religion. like he's [laughter] just he can't he can bar he can barely hold
00:34:20
it together and no one is bleeding right now. >> Here's the other thing like accidents
00:34:24
happen a lot at school. Like people get paper cuts pretty frequently. Kids get into fights sometimes and blood is drawn
00:34:30
like >> bloody noses. >> Bloody noses. >> Periods. >> Periods are happening. >> Period.
00:34:36
>> Period. >> Yeah. >> How does he keep it together? >> It's a it's a great question. And also
00:34:43
he does this like mind thing on Bella or like the body calming effect cuz she says like no fair Jasper
00:34:49
>> that's not it doesn't hold up later. >> He can control like the temperature of
00:34:54
everybody's mood >> but she's supposed to be like a >> have like a force field around her
00:34:59
basically. >> Yeah. >> Remember cuz later on >> she's got like some kind of block when
00:35:04
Jane tries to do the thing to her later. It just doesn't work >> and it doesn't work when Arrow does.
00:35:08
>> So wide as Jasper. The white is Jasper. >> Unless >> And why can Alice see her choices and
00:35:16
visions? >> Yeah, >> it's all a little muddy. >> Yeah, there is a little muddiness.
00:35:21
>> There is a little bit. Little bit. >> A little bit. Uh in in class they're watching Romeo and Juliet cuz that's a
00:35:26
heavy theme in this whole thing as well. >> Um clearly >> isn't the is the prologue Romeo and
00:35:32
Juliet? >> Is it? I have to me everybody. I think it was supposed to be and if it's not I
00:35:40
think it got >> Oh, there's like a the first page is these violent delights have violent ends
00:35:45
and in their triumph die like fire and powder which as they kiss consume. Gorgeous.
00:35:52
Um >> when Edward recites Romeo and Juliet, I get it. I understand. >> Here's the thing.
00:36:00
>> Does nothing for you. I didn't really I don't really I think it's be I think it's the deadeyed way in which he does
00:36:07
it. [laughter] >> Well, he is dead like but here and and for that um usually I love [laughter]
00:36:13
somebody who looks like they've passed on but she's got that Nicole Richie type but [laughter]
00:36:20
usually I'm for that. >> If you've seen that Tik Tok, you know >> it's when you're reciting
00:36:26
um Shakespeare. >> Yeah. >> Give me a little something. Did you give me a little something behind that when
00:36:32
you're deadeyed staring and just like mono salobically saying it? Not doing it. [ __ ] five point.
00:36:39
>> Not doing it for me. >> I think that I was conditioned to love Edward Cullen and I don't want to be
00:36:44
unconditioned. >> Just know like I recognize that it's toxic but I'm here for it.
00:36:48
>> I also love Edward Cullen. I mean I love I love and I know everybody knows this
00:36:54
if you watched the rewatcher with us and listened along. I love a morally gray to
00:36:59
just outright vile fictional dude. [laughter] So I'm I'm not here to tell anybody.
00:37:08
>> I'm not here to tell you that like you shouldn't like Edward Cullen cuz I love
00:37:11
Edward Cullen as a character. It's just that that read >> didn't do the different strokes for
00:37:19
different folks. >> Give me a little something. It's Shakespeare. Put a little Put a little
00:37:22
something into it. >> I felt I felt what he put in there. It it was that deadeyed stare I couldn't
00:37:27
get past. But while they're they're watching Romeo and Juliet in school in class before he recites it and he just
00:37:33
like casually tells Bell he's like, "You know that time when you got bit by James
00:37:37
and like almost died? Um I was just going to kill myself." And she was like, "Whoa." And he was like,
00:37:43
>> "I mean time to say it." >> Well, and he's literally like, "I planned it." And she's like, "You what?
00:37:48
Like excuse me." And she's and he's like, "Yeah, I know. It's like it's a little harder for me to do it." So, I
00:37:53
was going to go to Italy and I was going to, you know, I was going to like provoke the Vuri into killing me and
00:38:00
planned >> on their conversation. >> That's You're just sitting in the back of English class.
00:38:06
>> Yeah. And also like the Vuri is not supposed to be known to anybody. No. >> So, him even telling her that is no
00:38:11
bueno. >> Him saying that in English class is probably >> pretty wild. >> Probably an issue.
00:38:16
>> If Arrow heard that, he would laugh so hard and then and he would kill you. >> Really? He should have no problem. It's
00:38:22
like you're [ __ ] this up. >> Yeah. >> Well, no, he shouldn't. He doesn't know that because he has to touch the person
00:38:28
before he hears all their thoughts, >> but later he touches Edward. >> Yeah. But I'm sure that one didn't,
00:38:34
>> you know, permeate. >> There's millions of thoughts that he's reading to. I'm sure that one didn't
00:38:39
permeate. You would think hearing Voluri, >> you would think >> might ding. >> You know, speaking of the Vuri, he
00:38:45
explains the one law that the Vurter really enforces is that they have to keep the existence of vampires a secret.
00:38:53
Um, and with that, I want to just quickly tell you about the Vuri. >> Let's [ __ ] go mentioning them.
00:39:00
Illustrated guide. >> Illustrated guide alert. So, according to the illustrated guide,
00:39:10
>> they're basically royalty to vampires, which Edward says as much. Um, there's
00:39:14
five core members. Um, at this moment, it's Arrow, Kais, Marcus, SPIA, which is Arrow's wife. Oh, yeah. Does she ever
00:39:23
come back around? >> I don't know. And then there's Athena, which is Kais's wife.
00:39:30
>> Um, cool of her to not make the lives important. Yeah. Cool. I don't know if she come they come later or what. I
00:39:34
don't remember ever seeing their wives. >> I don't remember Arrow ever having a wife.
00:39:39
>> No, I don't either. Yeah, >> maybe. I haven't seen I haven't watched. >> I can't remember.
00:39:44
>> One I haven't read like the >> I haven't seen I haven't watched I haven't >> I haven't been there.
00:39:48
>> I haven't I haven'tumed at all. >> It's been a while. >> Yeah, we'll get there cuz we are going
00:39:52
to do all of them. We promise you this. >> I watched Eclipse recently but I stopped
00:39:56
before Breaking Down. >> I haven't watched Eclipse in forever. When I went like back in October, I did
00:40:01
Bing Bang Ward and then I fell right off. See, I only hit one and I started >> New Moon.
00:40:08
>> I can never just watch one. >> You can't just watch one. >> Um, but they have their own city in
00:40:13
Italy called Belterra. >> That's pretty hot. >> Uh, and they've secretly controlled it
00:40:17
for 3,000 years. So, that's pretty sweet. They pulled a fast one over on the Romanians at some point, the
00:40:23
Romanian coven. Um because they were super powerful vampires at the time and they tried to get them like they were
00:40:29
just beefing for territory >> as people do, >> you know, we beef for territory. And
00:40:34
they tried to get them to conform to the Vuri law and of course the Romanians were like, "No, bitch." And so they used
00:40:41
that as a reason to kind of like beef harder with them and take over their territory, which they ended up doing. So
00:40:47
it's really topical. It is. Uh, Arrow also likes to create vampires very specifically. He likes to create them
00:40:55
when they have special abilities. He like an army of very specialized vampires, which
00:41:00
>> why? I think that's just smart. >> It's called curating. >> Yeah, it's up. Hey, have a Pinterest
00:41:06
board. >> Let's go. >> The world is Arrow's Pinterest board. Okay. [laughter] So, he's just looking around.
00:41:12
>> His pen is bite is Oh, [snorts] that's No, that's Rewatcher. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I forgot. They don't they don't
00:41:18
snarf out their fangs cuz they don't have fangs. >> Oh [ __ ] I forgot that they don't have
00:41:22
>> which to be honest doesn't make sense. >> It's kind of [ __ ] >> They don't have bang fangs. They don't
00:41:27
have tattoos. They're only white. Boo. >> Yeah. Like true. And in this one when you see Laurent they cast like this
00:41:34
weird pale uh filter a little bit over him. I don't know if you noticed it too. >> Like they white
00:41:40
>> when they first show him he's like paler than he looks. And I was like don't do
00:41:45
that. His skin is gold. Yeah, >> cuz in the first um movie >> I mean there's no filter.
00:41:50
>> I mean in both movies I think Laurent is >> he's fine. >> Stunning. >> Yeah. >> And so but in the first movie I don't
00:41:57
know. It didn't look like it had that pale sheen filter over him. I'm not I'm not really sure if it was just like
00:42:02
lighting or whatever. >> But yeah, so they take over the Romanian territory and Arrow loves to create
00:42:07
special vampires. Uh he just wants to make sure the Vuri is like extra badass. So he's like I want all these
00:42:12
specialized things. Um, the biggest law is to keep vampires a secret. Of course,
00:42:17
don't want people knowing. They use humans as like servants essentially. And sometimes they'll turn them, sometimes
00:42:23
they'll eat them, as we hear at the end of the the movie when Jane, like one of them is like, "Oh, does she want to be
00:42:29
turned?" That's what Bella says. And she's like, "So she'll be turned." And then Jane says, "Or dessert." And I was
00:42:34
like, "That's awesome." >> I love Jane. >> Jane is scary. >> We get more of her, I think, in Eclipse
00:42:40
and Breaking Dawn. I love that. Fanning ate that [ __ ] up. >> She eats up every [ __ ] roll.
00:42:45
>> She really ate >> I love her. >> There's also there's another law that's like really important to the Vuri that
00:42:51
doesn't get touched upon here yet, but we'll get to it. Um is the making of immortal children.
00:42:57
>> Oh yeah, they don't want that. That's why Reneesme becomes such a problem. >> Big issue.
00:43:02
>> Yeah, which we'll get there. Um so the present day Volter um they have like nine permanent members of the guard
00:43:10
apparently. Like there's five of like the the big wigs and then there's nine members of the guard.
00:43:14
>> Okay. >> And then there's like a bunch of other members outside of that. >> Uh but there's Jane and Alex who or
00:43:20
Alec, excuse me. They're twins. Um where they were turned >> because they had special abilities as
00:43:28
humans. Okay. >> And Arrow heard about this. This is according to the illustrated gun.
00:43:37
Arrow heard about these special abilities when they were like toddlers, >> like when they were young.
00:43:43
>> So good. He didn't. >> So he started like following them around and he >> kind of just rolling through these
00:43:49
streets behind toddlers. >> Just like [laughter] waiting for them to to like something to happen.
00:43:54
>> Catch arrow at your local toys. >> He also he can't make an he can't make immortal children. That's part of the
00:43:59
law. So he couldn't turn them. He >> does. >> No. So this is interesting. And I don't
00:44:04
know if it gets touched upon in the movies. I can't remember. So Jane and Alec, they're twins. They're
00:44:10
I think they're like around 800 AD is when they existed. And when they were like tw as they grew up, they had these
00:44:18
abilities, psychic abilities. Jane has the ability to cause inflict insane mass destruction mind.
00:44:25
>> And Alec, his thing is he can cut off anyone's senses, hearing, seeing, smelling,
00:44:32
>> feeling, anything like that. He can cut them off like totally. I thought you could say he can cut anyone off and I
00:44:38
said that's also my special ability that's also become [laughter] mine. But yeah, he can do that. So their those
00:44:46
abilities were not like fully formed, but they were kind of and like a lot of people in their village thought they
00:44:50
were weird. They started freaking people out in their village. They're twins with
00:44:54
these weird darks and like they're both kind of like like Jane's super like monotone and like scary. Yeah.
00:45:00
>> Yeah. So like people in the village started thinking they were witches. >> Iconic. This is 800 AD. They burned them
00:45:06
at the stake when they were 12 or 13 years old. >> Oh, they literally burned them.
00:45:10
>> They got burned at the stake at 12 or 13 years old. Arrow found out about this
00:45:14
and as they were on the brink of death, he said, "Well, I can save them." >> All right.
00:45:19
>> So, he saved them, turned them into vampires. >> That's honorable. >> And now he gets to use their special
00:45:24
abilities. And those special abilities, everybody got amplified when they became
00:45:30
vampires vampire because Alec, while he was being burned, apparently was using his own powers on himself to not feel
00:45:38
being burned. >> Okay. >> And so now he uses those powers to like incapacitate people that they're in
00:45:45
battle with so that it's like an easier kill. >> Ah, >> and then Jane's just pissed. [laughter]
00:45:50
Good for her. She got pissed. So she's just like, I was burned at the steak. I'm going to [ __ ] people up.
00:45:54
>> Yeah, let's go. >> So, I thought that was pretty cool. >> That is pretty cool.
00:45:58
>> Uh, in the Vuri, cloaks determine rank. Like the >> the uh whatever your cloak color is.
00:46:04
>> It's like Slytherin, Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, >> but it's like a but it's like a rank.
00:46:08
So, like the darker cloaks are higher rank. >> Okay. >> And in the illustrated guide, there's a
00:46:14
quote from Stephanie Meyer that says, >> which I found like interesting. She said, "There aren't many bad guys in my
00:46:20
novels." Disagree. I hard disagree. Even the bad guys usually have a pretty good
00:46:26
reason for the way they are and some of them come around in the end. I don't see
00:46:30
the world as full of negatives. >> James question mark >> James question mark arrow question mark
00:46:36
[laughter] >> question mark which we'll get to. >> Jane question mark I mean yeah like
00:46:41
there's some bad guys I feel like. >> Yeah. Well, >> you know, >> well, >> like like what reason should we
00:46:48
prescribing as as valid >> for hunting someone, >> you know, to each their own. >> I guess like that's whatever you think
00:46:56
is a valid reason for doing >> morals. >> Yeah. >> Are different for everybody. >> We do watch at the end an entire tour
00:47:03
group of men, women, and very young children enter the Vuri lair and get slaughtered. Yeah.
00:47:10
>> Um, so I don't I don't know what reason we would prescribe that that would feel
00:47:16
right, but >> they were dumb. >> But again, [laughter] there are you know what they were too
00:47:21
inquisitive of history. That's >> too in search of knowledge. >> Yeah. Great. >> Um, so that was interesting to me. I
00:47:29
guess we can get Should we get to Arrow like talking about them now or should I wait until we meet them? Probably wait
00:47:34
until we meet them. >> No, why don't you get into it now cuz you're already in the volcan Yeah.
00:47:38
>> So let's talk about Arrow. Yeah, >> because we've already talked about him. >> Um, he's got black hair. He's got red
00:47:43
black eyes. >> His skin is described as like translucent like a lot of them are >> also described that way.
00:47:51
>> She lo she loves to describe the their skin as being like that of the skin of
00:47:56
an onion >> which gives me that >> the mostickic. >> Ew. So it's like filmy. >> That's the thing. It makes me think like
00:48:03
kind of slimy >> in a way and like membraney. That's a thing. Like it gives I was like, "Oh, a
00:48:10
lot of them are described like that." >> Also, like I love peeling onions. >> Yeah, that's what they're saying.
00:48:15
>> I'd want to It's like a sunburn. >> He's also described as 5 foot 10. >> Okay.
00:48:20
>> Which I was like, he has big dick. He has big guy energy. >> Yeah, he really does. He's pretty tall.
00:48:25
>> He has much taller energy. >> You're 5'1. So that's really tall to you. >> That's tall to me.
00:48:30
>> Yeah, it would be. I don't know if I'm 5'5 or 5'6. I've really never been able
00:48:33
to determine. Yeah, with brown eyes. >> Pretty tall. 5'5 with brown eyes. >> That's me. Um,
00:48:38
>> possibly. >> Yeah, he I he has the energy of somebody who's 6' three, I would say.
00:48:45
>> I would say. >> Yeah. At least at least a sixfooter. >> Definitely. >> Uh, but his special ability, because of
00:48:50
course he has one. >> He can touch somebody and he can, like we mentioned earlier, can hear every
00:48:55
thought they've ever thought in their entire life. >> So disturbing. Which feels like a wild
00:48:59
ability to >> I'm like I'm like even the intrusive ones. >> Yeah. Yeah, even when I've like wanted
00:49:04
like not wanted to but been like, "You're off the road right now." >> Oh, yeah. >> Cut your finger off.
00:49:09
>> All my question is how are they cataloged? Do they just come flying at him? >> Does he like have a tab in his head
00:49:15
where he can like click and expand? >> Like how does are they just coming at him or can he like flip through and be
00:49:21
like, I'd like to look at the ones when they were 18 >> in this like >> I'd like to look at the ones from this
00:49:27
afternoon. like how do you maybe they all just like they all flood through but they all hit.
00:49:32
>> It's pretty wild. He uses it later and he's pretty effective at it. But um the
00:49:37
illustrated guide says at one point that he was transformed when he was like 40.
00:49:43
>> Okay. And in the same paragraph it says that he was in his mid20s. >> Different. So
00:49:49
>> different. >> I guess split the difference and say he was 30 maybe. >> Okay. I suppose.
00:49:55
>> All right. Um, he was the last of his coven to form a romantic attra attachment, which I I'm like that makes
00:50:03
sense for Arrow, I feel. >> Yeah. Like took him a minute. >> Yeah. >> You know, he's not one to settle. I
00:50:10
mean, if you can hear everybody's ever every single thought they've ever had, it would take me a minute to settle down
00:50:15
as well. >> That's true. >> You know. >> Yeah, I get that. >> Yeah. >> He also uh he did kill his own sister.
00:50:23
>> Oh. Um. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh. [laughter] >> Oh. So I think one of the reasons So his
00:50:32
own sister I I don't know how to say her name. I'm probably spelled kind of wild.
00:50:38
It's d i d y. >> M e. >> Did uh diddy me. Uh because he killed her cuz uh >> uh he killed her. He turned her and then
00:50:54
she became mates with Marcus >> who looks like he has gastronomy. >> He's the one who looks like he's
00:50:59
constantly looking for a bathroom [laughter] always. He's looking for Emodium at all
00:51:04
times. >> Um and we know why now. We we'll get into it, but he's on the count like the
00:51:10
alter with him. Uh I think they planned to leave together and so he killed her. I think he also he didn't love she had a
00:51:19
special I don't think she had like crazy special abilities so he was like you're
00:51:22
just not really >> um I don't really need your [ __ ] you know >> and uh about him forming a romantic
00:51:28
attachment last the way that Stephanie Meyer said it was Arrow decided in advance that he would rather choose a
00:51:34
human and create a mate than look for his match in another vampire who might have ties to her own creator or other
00:51:41
relationships that would complicate his plans. >> I get that. And I said, "Honestly, same,
00:51:45
King. I'd be the same way." >> Yeah. >> Like, if I was a vampire for that many years,
00:51:50
>> Yeah. >> I'd be like, "Yeah, I think I'm just going to like choose my own adventure
00:51:54
>> 100%." >> Like, I'm not cuz that person might have ties to their creator and I don't want
00:51:58
to I don't want to deal with that. >> Yeah. Sirehood is big. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like, I'm for that. So, I
00:52:03
get it. And again, he's the one who discovered Jane and Alex, so he's the one who did that whole thing.
00:52:08
>> Okay. Okay. Now, speaking of Marcus, who is his Arrow's sister's mate? >> Yes,
00:52:15
>> Marcus has black hair. He has red and black eyes. He was the mate of Arrow's sister, Ditim, and he never got over her
00:52:24
death. >> Oh, >> but he also doesn't know who killed her. >> Oh, yeah. >> [ __ ]
00:52:30
>> He doesn't know that it's Arrow, >> that it's his literal like right-hand guy. and he's been going through like he
00:52:36
wants to discover who killed her >> and so he just a sad boy. >> That's that's why he feels looks that
00:52:45
way. >> He's very bummed. >> Of course he very bummed. So when he is sitting there and we'll talk about it at
00:52:51
the end when we see him and he just looks [ __ ] miserable. He is >> he is >> like he is.
00:52:57
>> Wait, so what's his special power? >> So his special power is he can see the relationships and connections that
00:53:02
people have with each other. which I said so can people with eyes. >> So uh >> okay special I I guess uh apparently in
00:53:15
like a big situation with like a big group of people he can pick out the leader or he can sense like a bond
00:53:20
between certain people. >> So he's just a people person. >> He can also see when bonds are weak and
00:53:25
that's just being around people. >> He's an empath. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's just like a uber empath.
00:53:30
>> He's got a good gut. So he's aside from the gas. >> Aside [laughter] from the the Emodium.
00:53:34
>> Yes. >> Uh so that's Marcus. So he's just really sad. >> See, I feel like Arrow probably would
00:53:40
have killed him, but Arrow probably finds like joy and knowing that he killed his sister who was Marcus's wife,
00:53:46
and now he can [clears throat] just watch and be miserable. >> Yeah. You know, my guy Arrow. That's
00:53:50
what he's all about. >> Otherwise, [laughter] that's not a super useful skill. >> No. [gasps]
00:53:54
But maybe it's kind of useful cuz it's like you can tell when things I think he can tell fast. So, I think he can look
00:54:00
over at somebody and be like, "Oh, that bond's not that strong." Or like if people are pretending to have a strong
00:54:06
bond, he could be like, "No, like that [ __ ] isn't real." >> Or like he can tell like fakery. Or he
00:54:11
can tell these two actually care about each other a lot. They're not saying it, but like you could exploit that.
00:54:17
>> All right. >> You know, so I guess that could be part of it. >> Uh Kais, who is played by Jamie Campbell
00:54:23
Bower, aka >> Vecna. Everybody, >> look at that. Uh he is one of these guys. He's he has white hair. He has the
00:54:32
red black eyes. >> He his special power is just being a hater. >> Love. [laughter]
00:54:40
Love. In fact, Arrow literally says that he was impressed by his quote passionate
00:54:47
capacity to hate. I get it. [laughter] >> That man's a Gemini. Yeah, he [ __ ] he's Beckna essentially. Like he is
00:54:58
Beckna. >> I don't know anything about Beckna, but he's so good at holding a grudge. Like
00:55:01
just professional professional. >> He owns a grudgery. >> He owns a grudgery. >> Um he hates werewolves.
00:55:09
>> Hates them. He wants them eradicated. >> Doesn't see a need for them at all. >> But the ones that he hunted were
00:55:16
different from the Quillute tribe. >> Okay. >> He hunted um werewolves that were
00:55:21
actually called the children of the moon. obsessed. >> And I guess they are real bonafide
00:55:27
werewolves where the Quillute tribe are shape shifters. >> Okay. >> And can choose when to transition into a
00:55:35
werewolf. But the children of the moon, >> full moon hits werewolf. Like they don't
00:55:40
get a choice. >> All right. >> Like they're the they're the werewolves that you think of
00:55:45
>> in you know what I mean? Like the classic werewolves that don't have a choice. Every full moon they're just
00:55:50
going to turn into a werewolf. Buffy. >> Yeah. Got it. So, he was hunting those ones. Let's I guess we'll stay tuned and
00:55:56
see how he feels about the quill you tribe. >> Yeah, probably not good. >> I'm going to say this guy holds a
00:56:00
grudge. I don't think he's going to like them. >> I'm obsessed with that special power.
00:56:03
>> Yeah. Um we already talked about Alec and Jane. Uh there is a point in the book where Jane walks in and Arrow's so
00:56:12
happy to see her and he walks up to her and it's like, "Oh my god, girl." And he
00:56:15
just kisses her right on the mouth. I want to be clear with you that Jane canonically is 12 and Arrow canonically
00:56:23
is either 40 or in mid20s. >> Either way, [laughter] not good. >> Shouldn't be kissing a 12-year-old on
00:56:30
the lips. >> No. No. >> Uh, and she says like she says like, "Hello, master when that happens." So,
00:56:36
there's a lot [laughter] there to to to unpack. >> There's a lot there to shove into a
00:56:42
corner. >> So much to shove into a corner. So, we're going to shove that into a corner
00:56:46
right now because we're not >> we're not quite there. So, that's the vuri of it all. That's we're going to
00:56:52
get to that. >> Um, that's a whole thing. And we'll get to the quillutes a little more when we
00:56:57
get to that part, I think. >> Okay. So, this whole plan where he was going to kill himself and he's just
00:57:02
casually dropping that in English 101. >> Yeah. And she's just like, "Whoa, that's
00:57:06
crazy. Don't do that." And he's like, "All right, I guess not." >> Cool. And they're just like obsessed
00:57:11
with each other and they can't live without each other. >> Obsessed with you. very very much like a
00:57:15
lot a lot of pressure on each other. >> Sort of like a trauma bomb. >> They both are putting a lot of pressure
00:57:20
on each other. >> Yeah. You guys have only been together for like a few months. >> So then we get to the Colin house. The
00:57:27
party is happening. At one point she goes down there. It's real pretty. They did a great job. Lots of flowers.
00:57:32
>> The cake is the ugliest thing I've ever seen in my [ __ ] life. >> Yeah. >> It's green and white and I hate it.
00:57:37
>> But I think Bella would love it. >> Yeah, cuz she has horrible face. >> I think they I think they nailed that
00:57:41
for her. Yeah. Well, Alice's style is also questionable. >> But Alice just gets Bella at the time.
00:57:47
She's like, "She will [snorts] love this. >> It's so gross." >> Um Alice also runs up to her when she
00:57:52
walks downstairs, takes a picture of her with a digital camera and says, "Um, I got this out of your bag. I hope you
00:57:58
don't mind." And I said, I would be like, >> I I so much do. >> I mind. >> Like I' I'd literally be like, we should
00:58:06
walk over here and talk about boundaries. >> Are you a club? Cuz none of you have
00:58:10
any. And that's weird. You can't just go in my bag and get my birthday present out and use it. Like that's just
00:58:16
>> you can't >> just ask me. You know I have a camera obviously. So it's like just say can I
00:58:21
use the camera real quick? >> She knew that she would say no. >> Bel doesn't like being in pictures.
00:58:26
>> Rosalie is the appropriate level of [ __ ] that I want from a hot vampire. >> Yes.
00:58:32
>> Like I was thinking that as this scene happened cuz she's like undoubtedly a wildly hot vampire.
00:58:40
And when you see her in this scene, you're like, "Oh, I would [ __ ] hate it if you were nice."
00:58:44
>> I would hate it if she was kind and welcoming. I'd be like, >> she is the appropriate level of [ __ ]
00:58:51
She's uninterested. She's annoyed that she has to be there. >> When she says she tells [laughter] her
00:58:56
what the birthday gift is. >> Oh my god. Alice just hands her a box and is like, "You first, Rosalie." And
00:59:00
Rosal's like, "It's a necklace. Alice picked it out. I didn't get this for you." I said, she said, "I didn't get
00:59:07
this for you, and I won't give you the joy of surprise. It's a necklace." >> No, don't even [ __ ] open it. Who
00:59:11
gives a [ __ ] >> Like, I just loved it. I said, "Oh, I love her." >> Um, then we have the whole Bella cuts
00:59:19
herself >> just loses it. Okay, I would like to come in here. >> Yeah, >> she gets a paper cut.
00:59:30
>> Mhm. Jasper was there in the first movie when we are to believe that Bella has
00:59:36
like opened up her femoral artery and it is leaking everywhere and like hemorrhaging all over the place.
00:59:42
>> Sure was. >> And Jasper's in the background helping them fight off James. >> Unbothered. How can he not handle a
00:59:49
paper cut when her femoral artery was hemorrhaging? >> Yeah. Hello. >> They mention at all like that like after
00:59:58
she passed out, Jasper had to be like taken out of the room. >> Yeah, I do think they say that. But like
01:00:06
>> but like you didn't but like he stays in the room. >> He was able to be distracted.
01:00:10
>> Yeah. With something. >> Yeah, that's the that's the main problem is like he was distracted with the the
01:00:16
James of it all. And I actually don't even know if they say it in the movie. I think you're right. I think they
01:00:20
mentioned it in the movie. >> Yeah, cuz I feel like I all of a sudden that just popped in my head.
01:00:23
making that up. >> They definitely mentioned it in the book almost positive. >> I think they do that
01:00:29
>> to explain it >> as the smallest way of explaining this cuz I think otherwise it doesn't make
01:00:33
sense. >> But even still, it really doesn't hold up. >> No, his reaction to that little of blood
01:00:39
>> and like the immediate reaction >> and that they can't stop him, >> right? Like he yeets everybody around
01:00:45
and Edward straight [snorts] up launches like like a like a t-shirt gun. [laughter] Launches
01:00:55
>> like >> not a t-shirt gun. >> Like launches >> Bella into a table into a glass table.
01:01:02
>> Yeah. >> Shatters the [ __ ] out of her arm. >> The paper cut was one thing, but then
01:01:06
she just opened up her arm, so she's bleeding everywhere. Now the whole place is just sitting there like snarling at
01:01:11
her. Also, is she taking like three baby aspirin a day? I hope so, cuz that [ __ ]
01:01:15
is bleeding. >> Bleeder. >> Yeah. >> But like whenever like that paper cut, it was like I was like, you're on a
01:01:21
blood thinner. >> Yeah. I was like, damn. >> Like what's going on, baby girl? >> Calm down.
01:01:25
>> Hello. >> Calm down, babe. >> But yeah, it's pretty crazy. Um, and after Jasper tries to kill her and you
01:01:32
know, like Carile fixes her up and everything and they have a discussion about Edward's soul, Edward is such a
01:01:39
dick and kind of just disappears after this. Like can't handle the fact that she's a human, that that's what could
01:01:45
have happened, blah blah blah. In the book, he comes over at one point to watch ESPN with Charlie
01:01:52
>> and have like bonding time with him. >> Okay. and like basically ignores Bella
01:01:57
the whole time and like isn't very like she's trying to like still ignore her. >> What?
01:02:03
>> It's very weird. >> I'd be like, "Why did you come to my house to ignore me, you douche?"
01:02:06
>> Yeah. And during this whole thing, she's doing her scrapbooking thing cuz remember my mom wants me to take
01:02:11
pictures and do a scrapbook. I don't care about any of you. And she has a picture from the birthday party of her
01:02:16
and Edward and she folds herself out of the picture and then tapes just him in there. And I was like, this is so
01:02:23
damaging to young girls to watch. >> You don't matter. You don't matter. >> You're disgusting. He's perfect. So,
01:02:31
just crop yourself out. >> You shouldn't actually even exist in physical photo form.
01:02:35
>> Like, what the [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Bella should be seeing a psychiatrist. >> Yeah. Like and then when the Cullens
01:02:43
stop going to school because remember when Edward is is sad they all have to [laughter]
01:02:48
>> everyone shuts down their life >> and which honestly I'd be like yeah get sad all the time cuz why the [ __ ] am I
01:02:54
going to school 6,000 gajillion years old >> is that why am I going to high school
01:02:58
for the 85th time in a I think we have enough graduation caps as a joke. >> Even though that that art piece is
01:03:04
pretty rad, >> but they when they stop coming to school, like they show Bella just
01:03:08
sitting there like staring at their table at the lunch table >> and her friends around her are all like
01:03:14
goofing around making each other laugh, throwing [ __ ] at each other. >> You're just watching this and you're
01:03:18
like as a young girl watching this, >> it's you it's like this is what you should be doing. You should be goofing
01:03:26
around with your friends, having fun, talking about silly [ __ ] and you are so deeply entrenched
01:03:33
>> in this one person. It's like exactly what it's exactly what I don't want for
01:03:40
my daughters is somebody to be this for them to be this entrenched in a person this young
01:03:46
>> and miss out on everything they should be doing. >> We will show them the outtakes as a
01:03:50
cautionary tale. I will show them this as a caution and be like you can't be like this
01:03:55
>> like don't end it with the screams in the night. >> Yeah. >> Not the proposal.
01:04:00
>> That's how you will end. >> Yeah. >> Now this is when she goes home and Edward is
01:04:07
just creeping. First he steals the picture. He's in her room and he steals the picture.
01:04:11
>> So [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. And then he's just cre he doesn't even leave a picture of himself for
01:04:15
>> and then he's creeping in her [ __ ] driveway >> and he says >> you want to take a walk with me real
01:04:23
quick and the way he says it my true crime brain said nope >> no >> you're not going in the woods with that
01:04:29
man >> also >> the way he said you want to just take a quick walk with me for a minute in the
01:04:34
woods with how you've been acting and how you just said that no sir >> why does he take her into the woods to
01:04:40
do what he's allowed to still asking that question to this day. >> Take her to her house.
01:04:46
>> Make sure Charlie's home. >> Do it. >> Sit on the front steps and do it so she
01:04:51
can go inside. >> Why do you have to be in the woods? >> If you didn't want to be in the house
01:04:54
cuz you know you're going to be a [ __ ] and you won't sit on the front steps. >> Sit in her car.
01:04:59
>> Tell her. And then wait for her to go inside so you know she's got somebody >> like sit in the back of her truck.
01:05:04
>> This [ __ ] left her in the middle of Forks Washington Woods. The fact that he makes her do a hike before breaking
01:05:13
up with her. Volatile >> and the way he they hike far in vast wood. >> And the most cutting thing he says to
01:05:22
her is I'm just sorry I let this go for so long. >> Oh, >> for some reason that one just cuz he's
01:05:30
pretending that he doesn't give a [ __ ] that he doesn't actually like her. >> Yep. It's a little too easy for him to
01:05:35
pretend >> it is. He and it when he said I'm just sorry that I let this go on for so for
01:05:41
some reason that would have gutted me but you said it's worse in the book cuz it sounds that's makes you sound
01:05:47
pathetic like it's l like I'm sorry that I just like let you think I liked you for that long like it's like and then
01:05:52
she also in the movie she's like I'll go with you and he goes I don't want you >> I'm like damn
01:06:00
>> ouch it's so diabolical >> in the book it's even >> in the you read it to me earlier and I I
01:06:06
almost cried. >> It's a rough one. >> It hit me. So, in the book, he says, "Don't worry, you're human. Your memor
01:06:13
is no more than a civ. Time heals all wounds for your kind." And she says, "And your memories?" And he says, "Well,
01:06:20
I won't forget, but my kind were very easily distracted." And then he smiles. He says,
01:06:27
>> I said, "You, [ __ ] you. >> I'm I'm sorry. What? I'll think of you from time to time and then I'll distract
01:06:32
myself, >> but I'll just be distracted >> easily." >> Easily. like >> and and during all this in the book
01:06:40
because I noticed in the movie when he says like um promise me something she doesn't say like yes I will. She's just
01:06:47
like in shock >> in the book when he says promise me something she says anything.
01:06:52
>> Oh no. [gasps] >> So as a man anything in the woods >> well and when he's telling you I don't
01:06:57
give a [ __ ] about you like I actually don't like you. I don't want to be with you but promise me something. If you
01:07:01
respond anything what? Yeah, girly. >> Like, what the [ __ ] >> Girly mama. >> It's rough in the book. It's rough.
01:07:09
>> Yeah, that's >> And it's And it's rough in the movie, but it's rough in the book.
01:07:13
>> So, that whole thing, she gets left in the middle of the [ __ ] woods after she tries to run after him. She's like,
01:07:18
"Edward." And then she runs after him. >> She actually says it exact. [laughter]
01:07:21
Edward, wait. And then she just falls down and just lays on which is like, >> "Can I just say something?"
01:07:27
>> Heartbreaking. >> Oh, it is. She just lays on the ground and cries. It's so sad. It's so
01:07:33
pathetic. It is. But you're just like you have no basis of any relationship and you have [clears throat] very like
01:07:41
her mom >> is a wreck. >> Is and absent. >> Yeah. >> Like she's obviously it's not like
01:07:47
someone especially in the book Charlie absent like just not she has no she does no concept of like what real love is.
01:07:56
>> And this is just like earthshattering to her that like the thing she thought was
01:08:01
love isn't that. Yeah, >> it's so sad. It is pathetic, but it's like you look at it and you're just
01:08:06
like, damn. >> It's it's horrible >> cuz you also you forget cuz to me she comes off so young in this.
01:08:13
>> Yeah. >> Like it's like 15 16 and then you're like just turned 18. Like damn, get up.
01:08:19
>> That's go about your life. >> Get up. >> You got to shift at Newton's. >> And Sam finds her in the woods and his
01:08:26
wolf form. Sam is one of the Quillute tribes. You skipped over the fact though that they literally had to send a
01:08:32
[ __ ] search. >> They think she's dead. >> Like Edward left her so far in the woods
01:08:37
and she passes out. >> The both of them are so just [ __ ] reckless that they have to get a search
01:08:44
party involved. >> Like Charlie literally has to become like chief of homicide in that moment
01:08:49
and like find her. >> Yep. And it's like the Quillute tribe are obviously helping because they're
01:08:55
friends with Charlie and they're >> and they can like sniff out the woods. >> And so there uh Sam who ends up being
01:09:01
the alpha of the tribe. We will learn. He finds her and picks her up and brings her back.
01:09:06
>> Just emerges out of the woods with her >> shirtless and jorts out of the woods.
01:09:09
>> Can you imagine being Charlie in that moment? Not Jorts carrying my daughter out of the woods. [laughter]
01:09:15
>> Not abort. He was probably like, "My life was [laughter] so simple. >> Go back. Go back to Arizona."
01:09:23
>> Simple before you came. >> He says, "Give me a call." >> Now I'm [laughter] like sitting here
01:09:28
having to watch a man in jorts with no shirt on carry you out of the woods. A >> couple months ago, you fell down a
01:09:34
flight of stairs, fell through a [ __ ] late glass window, came back with a [ __ ] bite mark on your arm.
01:09:40
>> On your arm that moves, by the way, that shifts. >> It's crazy. >> Local legend. is that your boyfriend's a
01:09:48
[ __ ] vampire. >> This is when we get our >> it's a possibility. [singing] >> And we just circle around her
01:09:57
>> months. And in the book, she does the thing where she has blank pages with just the month on it, which I think is a
01:10:04
really clever. It's a good way of doing it. >> I remember watching this and just like
01:10:10
as a child sobbing ugly Titanic ugly tears. I said he loved you. >> And there's random trick-or-treaters in
01:10:20
[laughter] your yard. People are trespassing on your property, Bella. Call the police. Oh, wait. Your dad's a
01:10:26
police chief. [laughter] It's so [ __ ] She's in the same pair of sweatpants. >> Same. And she's just staring deadeyed
01:10:34
outside. >> It's awesome. >> And it just The camera just like spins around her. >> I'm sorry, but are we to believe that
01:10:40
she just sits there for months? Mh. >> Like, does she get up? You see little bits of her getting up, but like sitting
01:10:49
and just staring off into the distance. Charlie trying to >> I'm like, does she miss four months?
01:10:53
Like, what the [ __ ] And like then we get the screaming nightmares where she wakes up in the middle of the night just
01:10:59
screaming bloody murder. >> The screaming nightmares are where as a parent, I would draw the [ __ ] line.
01:11:05
That's when you've >> you got to get professionals involved. >> Yeah, you got to get some help. I mean,
01:11:09
this is cuz there's [laughter] a part there's a part where where Charlie poor >> Charlie
01:11:16
>> poor Charlie [laughter] is just trying to he's trying to do the dad thing or the parent thing really and at night one
01:11:22
of the greatest things you'll ever have as a parent is when you just fall asleep
01:11:25
on that couch downstairs [laughter] cuz it's been a long day and then you wake up at some unknown time and you're
01:11:30
like I got to get upstairs but he's fallen asleep in front of the TV and she just starts screaming in her sleep and
01:11:36
you he like jumps up and is like and like goes to walk upstairs and I was like, "She's 18."
01:11:42
>> Yeah. >> He probably was like, "What? I thought this ended in elementary school." Like
01:11:47
when like nightmares. >> It doesn't. >> Nope. Not with Bella. >> No, not with She's going to bring you
01:11:52
right back. She said, "You thought you thought you could sit in front of the TV."
01:11:56
>> It's crazy. >> And then she's just sitting at alone at the Cullen's lunch table, which I think
01:12:02
is >> diabolical. so far beyond the realm of like I would literally this is when I
01:12:09
said Bella needs a [ __ ] Capricorn friend at that table sit there for maybe a day and watch that
01:12:16
[ __ ] sit at that empty table >> the next day I would get up I would walk over there and I'd say listen
01:12:24
>> get your >> listen sniffles >> either >> not sniffles >> get over it and come sit at their
01:12:30
[ __ ] table don't this is stupid or get the [ __ ] out of my ey line while you're doing it because this is dumb
01:12:37
because also >> I'm not watching you sit there and mope at their table. That's insane.
01:12:41
>> I can't imagine watching my friend do this after dating this guy for a few months.
01:12:46
>> That's the other thing. >> Like that's the biggest thing. This isn't years. It's crazy.
01:12:52
>> And this it's the table. The table just gets me cuz I'm also like that's attention seeking.
01:12:57
>> Next thing you know, she walks in wearing a peacacoat. That's a tent. Literally, [laughter]
01:13:02
>> she she buys a Volvo. >> She just play >> starts starts triple parking. >> She walks in with a bag of eggs and
01:13:09
plays a carrot like the kazoo at the table [laughter] like that's where she she alternates
01:13:15
between a paint small and a peac coat. [laughter] [gasps] She starts like, you know,
01:13:21
bringing someone in that's supposed to be her brother but isn't. >> Oh man. Um, but yeah, it's attention
01:13:26
seeking at this point cuz it's in public and you're literally doing that for the
01:13:29
whole cafeteria to wonder what's wrong with you. But then somebody will walk out up to you, no doubt, and say, "Hey,
01:13:35
you okay?" And you'll say, "Please don't ask me about this. It's private." Even though you're sitting in public. She's
01:13:41
that girl who goes on Facebook >> and says, "I'm going really bad time right now.
01:13:47
>> Please don't pry. Please, >> please don't pry. Allow my privacy during this tragedy.
01:13:52
>> Allow my privacy. It's ridiculous. So, at one point, Charlie says, "It's just
01:13:57
not normal this behavior. Quite frankly, it's scaring the hell out of me." And I
01:14:02
said, "Preachie, preach, [laughter] it's scaring us as viewers." >> I said, "Yes."
01:14:07
>> I said, "I'm scared about this fictional character being." >> So, she's like, "Don't worry, Dad." Cuz
01:14:13
he's like, "I think you should just get the [ __ ] out of here and go back with your [laughter]
01:14:16
>> That's the thing." He's like, "I called your mom. You got to get the [ __ ] out."
01:14:20
and he's like, "I just want to fall asleep in front of the TV again. >> I miss ESPN.
01:14:24
>> I just miss [laughter] it." And she's like, [snorts] "No, it's cool. I'm fine.
01:14:28
This is my home now. I love Forks. I'm not leaving." And he's like, "Awesome." >> Can we also point out that like in the
01:14:32
middle of like his daughter like screaming in the middle of the night and just being a general walking coma
01:14:37
person. He's also dealing with all these weird attacks. Yeah. >> And like whatever else is on his police
01:14:44
docket. >> Yeah. Like people are getting eaten. Hikers are getting eaten >> too much.
01:14:47
>> So he's like weird prince in the woods. Yeah. And so she's like, "Don't worry
01:14:51
about it." She's like, "I'm going I'm going to go shopping with Jessica. I'm going to have a girl tonight." And he's
01:14:57
like, "Okay." Like, "Bye." >> He literally is like, "Buy lots of shit." >> Yeah. Bye.
01:15:02
>> And so she calls Jessica and I love it cuz she's like, "Hey, Jessica, it's Bella."
01:15:08
>> Yeah. Bella Swan. >> And when I was first watching, I was like, "What?" And then I'm like, "Oh, I
01:15:13
hope Jessica was being a complete and was like, "Bella? Bella who? I don't know Bella." And Bella's like being such
01:15:19
a dick that she's like Bella Bella Swan, you don't remember me. Like she's that in her own like
01:15:25
>> it's me, Bella [laughter] here. >> Come on. >> But this is a classic. Bella is not like
01:15:33
the other girls. Like she always combat shopping. She doesn't like that. She's like, "Oh, okay. We get it."
01:15:39
>> Jessica, however, is hilarious. >> I love her. >> Um and I think she's a girls girl
01:15:43
personally. Last, remember last movie when Mike asked her to the dance? She asked Bella
01:15:50
if it was okay. When she's known Mike since she was in preschool and Bella just showed up four minutes ago and
01:15:56
she's asking Bella for permission even though Bella has no interest in him, but she's like, "Is it weird? I don't know."
01:16:01
>> Yeah. You know what? >> That's girl behavior. Girls girl. And to even honestly like
01:16:05
>> to even go out with Bella when she's been displaying such a dick. >> Like we only get to see her in the
01:16:11
cafeteria. Imagine that [ __ ] in class. >> Exactly. She's like when she has to look
01:16:15
at slides, it must be next level. >> I'm saying she goes through a whole thing about cuz they saw a zombie movie
01:16:21
and she's like and Jessica's take on it. She's like leprosy is not a joke. >> Yeah. She's like, I have a cousin who
01:16:27
has leprosy. It's not funny. >> It's not funny. And then she's like, is it supposed to be consumerism because
01:16:31
like whatever. Like and she goes through this whole thing like are you so >> Some girls love shopping.
01:16:35
>> Like you're so pleased with your own self-reerential [ __ ] And I was like Jessica's got it. Jessica's on it. She
01:16:42
got She would be fun to hang out with. Let's talk about zombie movies. Let's go.
01:16:46
>> Um, but as she's talking about this, she's like, and you know, like your depression thing, like I get it, but
01:16:52
like you got to get she goes, I have stuff going on, too. And she starts saying, Mike said he just wants to be
01:16:58
friends, >> which is hard. >> This she's also going through a breakup. >> This is the point of the conversation
01:17:04
when you hear her start to say, "Mike said he just wants to be friends." That Bella checks up. literally checks out.
01:17:12
You only hear Jessica say that fading out, >> but you can see that she's still talking.
01:17:16
>> Oh, yeah. She's saying it. She's like, and she's still talking about it as Bella is looking at these bikers over
01:17:22
there. >> As soon as this conversation went away from something Bella about Bella or what
01:17:30
she's interested in, she went whoop. She didn't give a [ __ ] about Jessica's problem. She didn't want to hear Jessica
01:17:35
being like, "Hey, Mike said he just wants to be friends and I'm bummed about it and like, can I talk?" Nope. Only
01:17:40
Bella can be going through a breakup right now. >> Bella's going through Bella's problem is
01:17:44
bigger. Bella has narcissistic tendencies up the walls. >> I told you she's baby girl. She's baby
01:17:49
girl. So baby girl here. And I that was so egregious. I was like, are you kidding me? Couldn't care less about
01:17:56
anyone else's problems. It happens again, too. >> But the way I would assume in this
01:18:01
moment that Bella has just [ __ ] lost it cuz she has. The way she walks towards these bikers and Jessica's
01:18:07
literally like, "Are you good? Like what's going on? >> She just abandons Jessica
01:18:13
>> in a seedy part of town. >> In a seedy part of town, leaves her by herself, gets on this, she walks up to
01:18:18
this biker who like >> wait, she actually first she starts walking up and then she stops and she's
01:18:23
like, "Oh, I thought I knew turns around, walks back, stops, walks around again."
01:18:28
>> I'm like, "What are you doing?" >> I feel like those bikers would be like, "No, thank you." Like I'd be I'd be
01:18:32
like, "Something's going on here. >> You're more cuckoo than us. >> Yeah, you're having a moment."
01:18:36
>> Uhuh. But she walks up to this one and he's like, "Hey girl." I'm surprised he
01:18:39
wasn't like, "Are you the fence?" >> He literally bites the way he bites it. He literally is like, "What's up?" Like
01:18:46
he just [laughter] >> It's not for me. It's not for me. >> I was screaming. I was like I was like,
01:18:51
"Good for you for giving it a shot. >> It's not for me." >> The lip bite kills me. He's literally
01:18:56
like, "Ew, stop. Stop. Stop. She keeps doing the bike." >> No, I don't. And I was like,
01:19:03
>> and they're not wearing helmets. This is also not in the book. >> No. So in the book she doesn't go with
01:19:09
she sees them but she doesn't go with them because Edward tells her to stop. She leaves with Jessica like right away
01:19:16
like doesn't go on the bike ride. So that was boring. >> Um so she goes on that bike ride. She's
01:19:20
like well what a rush. And Jessica when she sees you're going to be more of a [ __ ] pain in the ass. And that's when
01:19:26
she saw Edward cuz Edward was like hey stop turn around. And she's like no. >> Yeah. Now, she now is excited about this
01:19:34
cuz she's like, "Ooh, I can see Edward when I do dumb [ __ ] >> I can put myself in life-threatening
01:19:40
situations and then I will hallucinate my boyfriend who left me in the middle of the woods."
01:19:46
>> Also, again, with his entire [laughter] family, >> such a wild thing for young kid, like
01:19:51
young girls especially, to be reading or witnessing. >> Yeah. It's her doing the dumbest [ __ ]
01:19:57
because again, it's not quite clear whether she's really seeing or hearing Edward or not.
01:20:02
>> They should have spiced this up a little more and made it YA because this being
01:20:06
YA is dangerous as [ __ ] It is. >> I'm going to be reading like when I have children, I will be reading every book
01:20:12
that they read. >> Yeah. Just to make sure cuz the themes are just like >> Yeah. The themes are not good. Like
01:20:18
>> it explains so much about who I used to be. Oh yeah. I mean, it's definitely the
01:20:22
And again, we're looking at it from like an adult perspective. Kids, young people
01:20:26
would eat this up like we did. >> Like we did. >> So, she finds these two like scrap bikes
01:20:31
and she brings them to Jacob to fix for free so she can see her boyfriend again.
01:20:35
>> Mhm. >> Like re really take that one in. >> She also Jacob who is like very clearly
01:20:41
infatuated with her from the moment he lays eyes on her again. >> She brings him junk and says, "Can you
01:20:47
fix these bikes for me for free?" And she's doing this so that she can see her boyfriend who abandoned her in the woods
01:20:54
again. >> Yeah. Yep. She also, I don't know if this is in the straight up movie or if
01:20:59
it's the extended cut, but like some guy stops by with those bikes beforehand like before throwing them out. And
01:21:04
Charlie's like, "What are you doing?" >> Oh, yeah. >> And Charlie's like, she knows how
01:21:08
Charlie feels about this, too. Like he doesn't want people on motorcycles. >> And she's like
01:21:12
>> And she's like, "I'm going to get on a motorcycle and I'm going to I'm going to
01:21:16
make Jake fix it for me. I'm going to make Charlie worry about me. I don't give a [ __ ] about Jessica and I'm
01:21:22
abandoning all my other friends except for Jake. >> It's all >> And the only reason I'm friends with
01:21:27
Jake is because he can offer me this service. >> Exactly. >> And like make me feel good every now and
01:21:32
then. >> And me being in his presence makes him feel like there's a chance. So if I can
01:21:36
do that, I can get what I want out of it. And I get a little I'm like, damn. >> Yeah. You [ __ ] [ __ ] This is the
01:21:43
moment though where we say Bella, where the hell have you been loc which is a [ __ ] wild masterpiece is what you
01:21:51
meant. >> A wild line. It's not in the book. >> This was specifically for the movie.
01:21:56
>> I need to know who wrote that in. And I need to high five. >> Might have been Katherine Hardwick. I
01:22:01
don't know. >> Or no, wasn't it a Wasn't it a different >> Oh, no. This Yeah, this was another one.
01:22:04
So, you're >> Well, I would like to high five this man. >> Yeah. Whoever did this, they start
01:22:08
talking about like age again. It comes up again. age is like a like heavy ass theme.
01:22:12
>> And he says something like when he says, "What are you like 40 now?" Which I was
01:22:16
like, "Okay." That didn't even bother me. I was like, "Whatever." But then she goes, "I feel like it." And I was like,
01:22:20
"What does it feel like, Bella?" Cuz I feel [ __ ] great. I feel better than you've ever felt. You watching this
01:22:26
movie, I'm like, "You're 18 years old. You're in far dire streets than I am, bitch." Okay. I feel foot loose and
01:22:32
fancy free compared to you. >> You said I'm doing my Metacube masks. And what do you know about it?
01:22:37
>> I feel better than you, Bella. I listen to soft jazz in the morning. What do you
01:22:41
do >> on an old timey radio? You [ __ ] [ __ ] >> What do you do? What do you need?
01:22:47
>> What do you mean you feel 40? Doesn't sound like it. You sound like a whiny little 18-year-old is what you sound
01:22:53
like. >> Right in the kisser. >> And then she's sitting there with him while he's fixing the bike and she turns
01:22:57
off the radio and she's like, I don't really like music anymore. >> Pick me. Pick me.
01:23:02
>> Shut the [ __ ] up. Pick me. Pick me. Pick me. >> Shut the [ __ ] up. That's like that kind
01:23:07
of [ __ ] I'm like, "Stop it." >> Yeah. >> It's also a good song. I think that's
01:23:10
like when it's like >> you don't like music anymore. Too bad. You're in his garage and he's fixing
01:23:16
your [ __ ] for you. So, if he wants to listen to music, >> sorry, baby. >> Yeah.
01:23:19
>> Like, it's not your place. That's your bike on your own. >> You don't have to listen. You can live
01:23:24
in a blobby world with no music at your on your own terms. >> A grip. You were sitting in that chair
01:23:29
listening to Licky Lee for months. >> Exactly. For months. >> Months. Bella. And then later, I love it
01:23:35
because she comes home and Charlie's like, "Hey, like he's not coming back, Edward." So, he's literally like, "I
01:23:42
don't know, maybe settle for Jacob." Like, that's essentially what he says. >> And he was Does he say he says, "You got
01:23:47
to love what's good for you sometimes." >> So, he's literally like, >> I don't know, try to like him.
01:23:55
>> I'm like, whoa, >> we are setting up really, really bad [ __ ] here. When they're driving at one point, Jake
01:24:02
and Bella, they see Sam and like a few of the other tribe members >> and they were like Jake's friends,
01:24:09
>> but now they're not hanging out. >> But now they're all of a sudden super buff, shirtless hanging out with Sam.
01:24:14
>> Only and he calls Sam like a cult leader. Y >> and he's like, "Yeah." And you can tell
01:24:18
like it annoys Jake. He's like, "I don't know." Cuz he doesn't know what it's about yet.
01:24:22
>> Um but Sam is actually the al alpha. So that's what's happening here. >> And bloomer. He is a late bloomer. And
01:24:31
why don't I talk about like kind of the lore with this now? [clears throat] So they are shape shifters. They can
01:24:38
phase by choice. >> Um but they in order to be a Quillu tribe member in this movie that phases
01:24:45
like transforms. You have to be able to trace a direct bloodline to the original
01:24:50
shape shifter. Okay. Not all of them can shape shift. >> Makes sense. >> A lot of them are men. There's only one
01:24:55
woman who has shapeshifted. That's Leah Clearwater. We'll get to her. You'll get
01:24:59
a lot more of her in the third book, I believe. >> Third movie. >> Yeah. If not, the next one.
01:25:04
>> Yeah. Um >> I actually don't know if she's an Eclipse or if she doesn't come until
01:25:08
break. >> I thought she was. >> I don't remember. I can't remember. >> Yeah. >> Um but apparently, and I thought this
01:25:14
was interesting, there's a there's a window of time where the transformation can happen. Okay. If you're going to
01:25:20
transform >> and like it's this small window of time when like puberty essentially happens.
01:25:25
Um, and you will only transform if you are in proximity to a vampire. >> Yeah. Like your first transformation
01:25:33
will not happen at all if you never come in contact with a vampire. >> That is actually very interesting to
01:25:38
you. Like I think that's cool. [snorts] It is. It's interesting. So if you don't
01:25:42
sniff around a vampire at any point in that transformation window, you will never phase. You won't know that you had
01:25:49
that. So I wonder if that's like part of the reason why Jacob hates Edward. because he knows it's like partially his
01:25:57
fault. >> Yeah. You know what I mean? Because the reason that like all of a sudden there
01:26:01
was this huge like outburst of people transferring is because the Cullins came which became a proximity thing and now
01:26:10
all these kids are suddenly popping up and phasing because they're in proximity and now all their window of
01:26:17
transformation has happened all at once. So it's like they're all popping up. >> It's kind of funny.
01:26:21
>> So which is interesting. So werewolves are like super fast, like crazy fast. Can outrun a car, all that [ __ ]
01:26:27
>> Not a vampire. >> Not a vampire, though. >> Cuz they're fast. Cuz they're fast.
01:26:34
>> Fast. >> What up there? >> Uh, their eyesight is 10 times sharper than a human's eyesight.
01:26:40
>> To them, vampires look like a walking crystal essentially. >> That's kind of cool.
01:26:46
>> They look like angly and weird. >> Yeah. always or just after they become a werewolf? [laughter]
01:26:53
>> I'm not really sure. >> Like when Jacob first met Edward, he was like he was like a
01:26:58
>> this angular [ __ ] >> He looked like a Picasso like an early Picasso but just sparkly.
01:27:04
>> That's what I pictured. >> Long head. >> It's like a walking Picasso painting
01:27:07
with like all the features in different ways and like super angled and >> Yeah, I'm picturing like um Gumpy but
01:27:14
like sharp like Gumpy. This guy who was always a pen. He was always a pen. >> Gumby, right? That's
01:27:22
>> what's going on. >> Yeah, Gumby. [laughter] >> What's happened? >> Gumby. Oh, Gumby. Gumby. When you said
01:27:28
he was always a pen. >> Yeah, there was pens at him. >> Oh, okay. >> You know what I'm saying?
01:27:33
>> I I was thinking Gumby when you brought him up, but then you said the pen thing
01:27:37
and it threw me off. >> You never saw a Gumby pen? >> No, I don't think I [laughter]
01:27:41
>> You were like he was always a pen. I was like he was not a pen. Like >> maybe he wasn't.
01:27:46
>> I [laughter] don't think he was. Maybe I just feel I'm sure somebody has a Gumby
01:27:50
pen. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Um maybe not though because I'm [laughter] looking at Google images
01:27:54
right now and there's not a lot >> you and you literally said he was always a pen. That's why I was [laughter] like,
01:27:58
"Oh, that's not Gumby." Like [gasps] what? >> Gumby. >> So, so the pack, the Quillute like
01:28:05
werewolves pack. >> Yes. Yes. >> They share group mind so they can hear each other's thoughts.
01:28:10
>> Okay. >> Uh which becomes a real problem for Leah being the only woman in the pack later.
01:28:14
>> Oh, we will get there. Don't worry. When we get to her situation, you will feel
01:28:20
all for Leah. Yeah. >> They also like you had they have to obey the alpha. They don't have a choice.
01:28:26
>> Um they heal really quickly once they transform like once their first phase happens. Their aging will speed up until
01:28:34
they reach the age of 25 and then they stop aging. >> Obsessed. >> Yeah. So they'll get like they'll
01:28:40
quickly get older but stay at 25. So that would be a problem even if she was with Jake
01:28:46
>> and there's nothing he could even do about it. >> Yeah, because he'll stop aging.
01:28:50
>> Wow. >> Yeah, >> that's interesting. I don't I didn't even remember that. >> Yeah, we'll get they do mention
01:28:57
imprinting in New Moon obviously becomes a problem. >> Yeah. >> Later. >> Yeah. >> Um what it is is apparently being
01:29:04
unconditionally tied to a member of the opposite sex. Always the opposite sex. >> Homophobic. So you cannot
01:29:12
>> That's literally homophobia. >> It really is like cuz it specifically says homophobia opposite sex.
01:29:18
>> Um >> and apparently once you see the object of the imprinting that you don't know
01:29:23
that's going to happen, but once you come upon the person you're going to imprint on, you will do anything to
01:29:30
please and protect that person. >> Upsetting. >> All other commitments in his life, like
01:29:36
the werewolf's life, are secondary. even commitment to the pack. Everything becomes secondary to that person.
01:29:44
>> Interesting. >> The werewolf will completely transform everything about themselves to become
01:29:50
what that person needs or wants. So they will abandon any individuality or any preferences or any choice to become
01:29:58
whatever that person wants. >> That's wicked healthy. [laughter] >> I'm like that's wicked healthy. I'm
01:30:03
like, [ __ ] you have created the most [ __ ] up relationship sick. Like toxic as all hell.
01:30:10
>> They will give up everything >> just to be with that person also be forced into being like around
01:30:20
everything that that person loves. So if they they have to by no choice of their
01:30:25
own like the people that that person likes, like what the everything about it, >> that could get so crazy.
01:30:30
>> Yeah. And it said, according to the illustrated guide, if the human is young that they're imprinting on, the werewolf
01:30:39
becomes the perfect platonic, playmate, and protector. >> Putting platonic and playmate in the
01:30:45
same sentence is diabolical. >> As the human ages and changes, the werewolf instinctively switches roles to
01:30:53
fulfill the human's needs. So grooming. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So the whole Reneesme thing when
01:31:00
everybody's like, "Oh my god, it's not that big a deal." It's a big deal. She's He's waiting. This [ __ ] is
01:31:06
waiting and wait, >> it's literally grooming >> until she becomes age appropriate.
01:31:10
>> It's involuntary grooming. >> Meets her as an infant. >> Can't wait for her to become age
01:31:15
appropriate. That is so beyond [ __ ] up. >> But can and will wait. >> Yeah. [sighs]
01:31:25
Like I I just read a story to the girls the other night called It Came From the Sky. That's a great book. You need to
01:31:32
read it. It's so fun. Okay. >> And it says in it, "Nobody is more patient than a spider."
01:31:37
>> And I beg to differ. [laughter] >> I didn't know when you said, "I read a book to the girls the other night," what
01:31:44
journey you were going to take. >> Nobody's more patient than a werewolf who was imprinted.
01:31:49
>> Yeah, just saying. Uh, my brain right now is like, [cheering] you know, when you shake up one of those
01:31:57
bottles and you make a tornado. That's my brain right now. >> Yeah. I just wrote what at the end of
01:32:02
[laughter] the >> What? Why would you volunteer or anything, but like [laughter] Steph,
01:32:12
I'm not trying to come at you, bro, but like why would you voluntarily tell us this and like make this [laughter] make
01:32:17
this lore? >> That's just This was voluntary. You didn't have to. really don't want that.
01:32:22
>> It's like voluntarily telling us that Jasper is a Confederate [laughter] soldier. Like
01:32:28
weird. >> I don't need it. Um but yeah, so that's that. >> The the Quillutes and the Vampires or
01:32:36
the Cullens, excuse me, specifically have a treaty that happened a long time ago. Okay. That was like I think it was
01:32:44
like Jacob's like great great grandfather who started this whole like it's one of his family
01:32:48
>> descendants as or ascendants. They did this. Yeah. They did this treaty with Carile because Carile's a billion years
01:32:54
old. And so their their whole treaty was that they were going to leave each other
01:32:59
alone. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I remember what we saw in the first movie, the little flashback.
01:33:03
>> The Cullens had to promise not to hurt humans and hunt them. And they had to promise to stay off of Quilly Land.
01:33:11
>> How weird is that? That Edward met Jacob's great greatgrandfather. >> I know. Isn't that crazy?
01:33:16
>> Yes. That's why he's like, >> "Boy, little [ __ ] boy. >> Little [ __ ] Get out of here."
01:33:21
>> Hey, son. >> Like, Jacob is of the generation that Bella is. >> Yeah. >> So, technically, Yeah. It goes too far.
01:33:31
>> You can't think on it too much. It'll break your brain. >> Yeah. You can't marinate in that too
01:33:35
much [laughter] or it's going to get rotten. >> How many generations older is Edward
01:33:39
than Bella? Wow. Who can be sure? Uh, >> probably somebody on an online form, >> I'm sure. But that at some point Bella
01:33:47
jumps on one of those bikes that she made Jacob fix for her. >> Oh, doesn't she get like thrown into a
01:33:53
rock? She does. And when she begins the to start the bike, Edward appears and puts his hand on her hand in vision form
01:34:00
and he just goes stop [sighs and gasps] >> and the ways [laughter] he's like stop.
01:34:06
I feel like that's silly. Uh but she crashes and he Jacob comes to her rescue also. She crashes and she gets internal
01:34:14
bleeding and I will not be told [laughter] otherwise. She flies against that rock.
01:34:19
>> Yeah. >> Like >> really really hard. >> And she sits up and says, "I want to go
01:34:25
again." But her mouth says something different. >> Yes. >> I can't tell what it was.
01:34:29
>> And then she looks up at Jacob and says, "You're sort of beautiful." >> And I I need to stand in in honesty
01:34:36
right now. That's a killer line. >> Yeah. >> A killer line to say to somebody. I I
01:34:41
was unaware of Bella's like potential to have game cuz that was like a real you're sort of beautiful is cuz like he
01:34:48
is it's a killer line and also somewhat of a read because it's she could just look up at him and be like you're
01:34:53
beautiful but I think she was literally just being like holy [ __ ] like I'm looking at you right now this close for
01:34:59
the first time and like she's I think that was supposed that's part of the game is you're being a little co like a
01:35:04
little koi and being like you're sort of beautiful. >> The sort of would take me out. I'd be
01:35:08
like, "Oh, back in the day." Wow. A memory just infiltrated my brain. Back in the day, it used to be this thing on
01:35:15
Facebook where it would be like like and I'll rate you and like say a fact about
01:35:18
you and people would like each other's statuses. And then on your Facebook page, they would rate you from 1 to 10.
01:35:25
So, it's kind of like being called an eight when somebody calls you sort of beautiful.
01:35:29
>> That's how Facebook began is Mark Zuckerberg thinking he had any [ __ ] ground to stand on to rate another human
01:35:36
being how they looked. looking from his [ __ ] goblin ass point of view. >> He did that voluntarily.
01:35:41
>> Yeah. Um, >> you're sort of beautiful. >> I think this it's the way she's not
01:35:46
saying it like you're sort of beautiful. Like that's not how that's coming out. Somebody looking deep into your eye and
01:35:52
being like you're sort of beautiful. It would be like at that age you'd be like wow.
01:35:56
>> Well, he loves Jacob is like excuse me. >> Also Jake is he is sort of beautiful.
01:36:02
Like that's just that's like >> I was like damn that really hit girl. Yeah. >> So, you're like, "Dang, Bella, where the
01:36:09
hell you been?" >> I did. I said, "Where the hell you been, Loca? Where did that come from?" Uh, but
01:36:14
the whole thing is like people have been seeing bears in the area. We were talking about it earlier. You know,
01:36:19
Charlie's been trying to figure out who it is. Are they getting what they think are bears? Hikers have died, like a few
01:36:24
of them. Uh, they're actually werewolves um that they're seeing, but it's something else that's killing people and
01:36:30
hurting people, but people are seeing the werewolves and thinking they have something to do with it. Um, yeah.
01:36:37
Rachel Lefbre, I think it is. [sighs and gasps] >> Unreal. >> She was iconic in this role. I'm sorry.
01:36:43
Bryce Dallas Howard is great. >> She's a great actress, >> but and she's beautiful.
01:36:48
>> Rachel ate this role up. >> She's scary. >> Genuinely scary in this one. >> She's got this like look in her eye.
01:36:55
>> Oh, she's so good. >> That Bryce Dallas Howard just doesn't like deliver the same.
01:36:59
>> And we're going to get to the my favorite scene in the entire movie in a minute. Um, but Bella, like so I think
01:37:06
like her friends at lunch are talking about this and Angela thinks she saw one of the bears.
01:37:12
>> Bella finally joins them at lunch again. Just walks over out of nowhere and sits
01:37:16
with them and they're all like, "What the fuck?" >> They're also just like such good people
01:37:20
because they're just like, "Okay, like sit down, crazy [ __ ] >> That's a okay, crazy [ __ ] [laughter]
01:37:25
Just sit down." They're just like, "All right, here you are again." And Mike takes this as an
01:37:30
opportunity to ask her out, >> which isn't Jessica like right there? >> Yeah, that's why I'm like, "Mike, shut
01:37:38
up." >> Yeah, it's very nice. >> The way he says this, I took I actually took a recording of it. No,
01:37:44
>> you didn't. >> Because this would make me fly into orbit. >> Oh gosh. >> So, this is what he says when she
01:37:52
>> walks back to the thing. >> Okay, that's Well, welcome. Um, so listen, you know, now now that you know,
01:38:01
you're talking and uh eating again, which you know, got to get protein in there.
01:38:09
>> When he says got to get that protein in there like pokes her, I would I would
01:38:17
say respectfully, >> he essentially asleep. >> He essentially just spoonfed choo choo.
01:38:24
>> He essentially just >> that protein in there. >> Choo choo. I said, "Oh, you're at the
01:38:29
task." After that, >> I would crawl under the lunch table and never emerge. [laughter]
01:38:34
>> I was watching it. I said, "Oh, Mike, no." >> It's [laughter] You said that so carefully. Oh, Mike,
01:38:46
no. [laughter] Like, Eric should have literally said that. Oh, Mike, no. It's [laughter] the way his voice like
01:38:56
yuck. That's how you talk to a little kid. [laughter] They're like, "Get that protein."
01:39:02
>> And she's just like, "Okay, >> okay." And she agrees to call >> and he's like, "You want to go to a
01:39:07
movie?" And like there's like a romantic comedy that we could see. And I love it
01:39:11
cuz she literally goes She goes, "Um, do you know like Face Punch? It's called Face Punch." [laughter]
01:39:18
And she's like, "I would love to see Face Punch." And she's like, "Everyone, do you want to see Face Punch with us?
01:39:22
Face Punch. Wanu." And they're all like, "Punch face. Let's go." And I was like,
01:39:26
"Poor Mike. He's just there." But I was like, "You cooked your own [ __ ] chicken there with
01:39:30
>> You cooked [laughter] your own your own protein there with your protein in there.
01:39:35
>> Oh god, kill me." >> Um, and luckily lucky for him almost is that everybody gets sick and can't go.
01:39:42
Jessica just bails, which also I was like, "Yeah, no shit." Of course, >> because before [laughter] we go to this
01:39:46
scene, Jessica goes, "Movie night with Bella. >> [laughter] >> She's like, "I could think of 70 things
01:39:55
I'd rather do." >> I said, "Correct [laughter] reaction, Jessica." Cuz you know, she's like, "Are
01:40:00
you [ __ ] kidding me? >> Yeah. >> You've abandoned me in the streets." >> Yeah.
01:40:04
>> And they were dating again for a couple months. Like that's shitty. >> And she likes Mike. She just watched
01:40:09
Mike ask Bella out. >> Yeah. >> And she's like, "Yeah, no. I don't want to go on your date with you. Thank you
01:40:14
so much. Movie night with Bella. >> I love her. >> But everybody's sick. Nobody can come."
01:40:18
And so it's just Jacob and Mike. [clears throat] >> Jacob is trying. >> Of course it's just Jacob and Mike.
01:40:25
Because all of the boys Something about Bella's milkshake brings them to the yard.
01:40:30
>> Brings them all. >> And they're like, "It's better than yours." >> Yeah. And Jessica's like, "No, it's
01:40:34
not." >> She's like, "No, it's actually putrid and rancid." >> Yeah. And Jacob's trying to be nice in
01:40:40
this scene at first, to be honest. Doesn't end up that way, but he he certainly tries
01:40:44
>> when they're both sitting there with their hands open. I would with the hands. Oh my god. I went on a date with
01:40:49
a guy that did that once and I literally wanted to like stab my eyes out. >> You know, John tells a funny story. I
01:40:55
don't remember this, but maybe it wasn't traumatizing for me. It was traumatizing
01:41:00
for him. So maybe that's why it's burning. We went one of our first dates. >> We went to a movie theater where you
01:41:06
could bring the armrest up. >> He lifted the armrest up. I slammed it back down. [laughter]
01:41:16
>> What? Why [laughter] did you do that? I don't remember. I think it was just like I said,
01:41:23
absolutely. >> Don't touch [laughter] me. I'm sterile. >> What the [ __ ] >> And he will tell you to this day that he
01:41:29
remembers it vividly. >> Of course he does. He wakes up and thinks about [laughter] it. Holy [ __ ]
01:41:35
>> It turned out all right. Four of my things. >> Yeah. Three kids in a marriage later. I
01:41:39
feel like we're okay. >> Damn, [ __ ] >> Like I'm like, damn. Like 20 years later,
01:41:44
>> that's reckless. >> He still will be like, I remember that. And I felt that sting.
01:41:48
>> That's reckless. >> I don't know. It must have been instinctually I was just like, "No,
01:41:52
man." >> Something crazy runs in our family because before me and Drew's first kiss,
01:41:55
I literally said, "Fuck you." >> Wow. >> Yeah. So, >> damn. See, I was I was very scarred from
01:42:00
my last relationship. So, I think I was like, "Don't touch me. Get away." [laughter]
01:42:05
>> That's so stupid. >> Just slammed it right back down. >> I can literally picture John in that
01:42:09
moment just being like, >> he was just like, "Oh, >> like just laser eye focus [laughter]
01:42:13
down at the floor." He took it very well apparently cuz I didn't even know it happened.
01:42:17
>> Well, you know what? It, like you said, it worked out. >> It worked out. U, >> that's so reckless.
01:42:22
>> But also, Mike uh really reads uh Jacob for filth when he says, "Are you even
01:42:27
old enough to see this movie?" Especially cuz Jacob's response is not, "Yes, I am." It's, "Bella bought my
01:42:33
ticket." >> Ew. >> And I said, "This got weird." >> Yeah. >> This got weird fast.
01:42:39
>> Yeah. >> And I'd like to be let out. >> I'll be out on this corner. [laughter]
01:42:43
I want to be out. >> Yeah, the the hands up thing. So weird, >> upsetting. >> This is when like, you know, Mike gets
01:42:51
sick, he gets the flu that everybody has, which I don't think anybody was appropriately stressed out about that to
01:42:57
be honest. When you're that age, >> as soon as somebody is like, I think I have the neurovirus. I'm like, well, I
01:43:01
guess this is curtains for me. >> Actually, please don't even say that in front of me. No, they and they have a
01:43:07
whole discussion, Jacob and Bella, while Mike's puking in the bathroom that and he says, "I'm not going to give up." And
01:43:13
her response is, "I don't want you to, but it's because I don't want you to go anywhere." And that's selfish. And I was
01:43:20
like, "There are things that are called inside thoughts, [laughter] >> and those are things that you shouldn't
01:43:25
say out loud cuz they're going to make you feel better to get them out. They're going to hurt the person you say them
01:43:30
to, which is very selfish." when it's like I don't even know that Jacob is like astute enough in this moment to be
01:43:36
hurt by that. I think he stopped listening at I don't want you to. >> Yeah. You know, like that. And that's
01:43:41
like you're leading him on. >> Yeah. >> It's [ __ ] up. And it's just [ __ ] up to say to someone like I don't want you
01:43:47
to stop obsessing over me, but it's only because I don't want you to go anywhere.
01:43:50
>> What the [ __ ] You don't have to be that honest, babe. No, you don't. >> That's not helping anybody. And we end
01:43:55
up like she tries to talk to Jake some more like after this first. Oh, first of all, Mike comes out of the bathroom
01:44:03
looking gray as hell and he >> sweating >> and he's sweat. He looks so sick and he's like,
01:44:10
>> "I have to go." >> So, I have to go home. That's all he says. And Jacob looks at him like he's
01:44:15
going to [ __ ] kill him. >> Jacob says, "You blank ass [ __ ] ass [ __ ] asshole."
01:44:20
>> Literally, he's like, "Do you have a problem?" And Jake's like, "Yeah, you're
01:44:25
my problem." And then he says like something about like maybe you need a hospital and maybe I need to put you
01:44:31
there. [laughter] And he's like what the [ __ ] And so Belle is like calm down. You're [ __ ] hot. And not like hot
01:44:36
like woo you're spicy. It's like no you're literally hot like you have a fever. >> Yeah.
01:44:40
>> And I love it cuz he walks away and Mike goes he's weird. [laughter] >> And I'd be like get away from me
01:44:46
influenza. But get away from me influence. [snorts and laughter] >> You got to go.
01:44:53
>> You were just talking about inside thoughts. I think that was one of those. But honestly, [laughter]
01:44:58
I don't have those. >> Get away from I'm preaching it, but I but I don't actually practice [laughter]
01:45:03
it. >> Do as I say, not as I do. >> Yeah. >> Um and this would seem I think they
01:45:08
should have done it where cuz it's seeming I know it's supposed to be that he's in the middle of transitioning. So
01:45:13
the the change the change is happening. [laughter] He's getting his manies right now. Um
01:45:19
his his werewolfies right now. Um and so it's supposed to be he's like uncontrollably getting angry and he's
01:45:26
hot and all that stuff. >> But I think they should have at least given Mike like some bit of antagonizing
01:45:31
there. Like said something that would not normally set someone off but sets him off like that cuz it comes out of
01:45:38
nowhere to such a degree that while you're watching it you're like why did he do that?
01:45:42
>> Yeah. Why so? Because when you're watching this for the first time or reading it, you don't know the
01:45:48
background yet, right? >> So, you don't know what that's all about. So, you're just sitting there
01:45:51
being like, is he why >> so mad? >> So, I think it just could have had a little bit of more even the smallest bit
01:45:58
of ant something that could even be taken for like um innocuous but is like has the tinge of antagonizing.
01:46:07
>> Um but that's just me being a dick. >> No, I get that. So, we see that like Bella tries to get a hold of Jacob a
01:46:13
bunch, can't get a hold of him. They're claiming he has mono, all that [ __ ] He's staying away. It's a long time. And
01:46:19
then she shows up in the [ __ ] pouring rain and he is just jorts. Just cut off jorts.
01:46:25
>> A tattoo. He's He's cut his hair. Thank god. >> Um Yeah. He cut his hair. He took the
01:46:31
wig off. Got a tattoo. He's got a tattoo >> that moves, by the way. >> Yeah. They go Yep. They go through a
01:46:37
whole thing with, you know, and he's saying he can't tell her what's going on and blah blah blah. And then he goes, "I
01:46:42
used to be >> tell you >> a good kid." >> And I said, "Stop." >> He said, "Okay."
01:46:50
>> And he's like, "Yeah, I can't tell you what's going on." And he just runs off
01:46:53
in the rain with his other shirtless Jorts crew. >> Jort squad. >> The Jort squad. [laughter]
01:46:59
>> I'm trying to think of another J. And just a a jumble of Jorts. >> Yes. just off the jumble. Yeah, the the
01:47:06
jumble of jorts off on the on the little periphery >> to have a Jort jamberee. >> So, we see her go up to the meadow again
01:47:13
where they used to like lay together. And can you please explain what happens there?
01:47:18
>> I need you guys >> cuz she has a vision like she remembers them laying in the meadow.
01:47:22
>> I need you guys to watch this scene. Even if you don't watch the whole movie again, watch this scene because as
01:47:26
they're like panning over Edward and Bella laying down, Bella doesn't have a foot. It's gone. And everybody like I
01:47:32
saw a couple people on Reddit being like, "No, it's just like like um her boot cut jeans." Nope.
01:47:37
>> Nope. Cuz you can see her other foot. >> Yeah. >> Her foot is missing. [laughter]
01:47:41
>> Her foot is >> her foot is gone. >> It is. It's gone. >> It's Maybe that's supposed to tell you
01:47:47
it's a memory. >> To believe that her boot cut jeans consumed her foot. >> But [laughter] you're wrong.
01:47:54
>> They didn't. >> You're wrong. >> They just digitally took her foot out by accident.
01:47:58
>> Yep. And didn't put it back in. Uh, it's pretty funny. Um, but when she goes up
01:48:03
to this meadow, it's no longer that lush meadow. It's all like burned and dead. Um, and Laurent shows up
01:48:10
>> and he's hungry. >> He look and he looks great. >> He does. >> Laurent's gorgeous as far as I'm
01:48:15
concerned. >> Abs for days. >> It is. And just he's beautiful. >> He's getting his protein in there.
01:48:19
>> He is protein. [laughter] You're getting protein in there. >> Protein in there.
01:48:24
>> Uh, a lot of iron. And he he tells her that basically Victoria is eye for and
01:48:29
eyeing her. Edward killed her mate so she needs to kill Edward's mate and that's you buddy. And then he's like
01:48:34
good luck. >> He's like are I went to the Collins house, didn't see him there. Do they
01:48:38
visit often or like weird that they left you here? And Edward shows up to tell her like lie. At one point he says
01:48:45
threaten him. And I was like that's I would have been like timeout. What do I say?
01:48:50
>> What threat? You have to be specific to me. you need to cuz I said earlier I was
01:48:53
like my immediate thought for a threat would be like I'll spit in your eye and kick you in the shin
01:48:57
>> and that's not going to help anybody. So like you need to tell me what threat you
01:49:00
want me to use but she apparently knows. >> I don't even know what you would say.
01:49:04
>> I think she says like Edward will never let that happen. He'll come back for me.
01:49:08
>> But that's not cuz he's like you wouldn't have left you in the first place. >> Yeah. He's like pretty shitty that he
01:49:13
left you here. And I'm like yeah it is pretty shitty huh. I'd be like you know what? Why don't we sit down and actually
01:49:18
we can talk about it because there's a lot of lore to this. She's like, "I would actually love to talk about this."
01:49:22
>> There was a search party, Lauron. >> Um, I don't know if you know this, but I
01:49:25
sat in a chair for four months. Yeah. With >> Do you know Licky Lee? Whatever possibility. All right.
01:49:31
>> Do you know that there's a possibility? >> I missed four months of school. >> It's a possibility.
01:49:36
>> Trick-or-treaters were in my sideyard. >> Well, and then he's like, "You know
01:49:39
what? I'm really hungry, though. Victoria's probably going to be annoyed at me for eating you, but I think I'm
01:49:43
going to >> and it'll be better >> and it's going to be fine. >> Like, I'll make it painless."
01:49:47
>> And she literally stands there and is going to allow him to. And she's like, "I love you. I love you, Edward." And I
01:49:51
was like, "Oh, [ __ ] a." >> She wants that to be her last words. I said, "Really?"
01:49:55
>> Yeah. >> He left you. >> He left you in the woods alone. >> Come on. >> Grow up.
01:50:00
>> But there's a wolf there. I think it's Sam at first. >> Yeah. He like leads the pack. I think
01:50:07
there I think. Yeah, they're all there, I think. >> But, uh, they all attack Laurent. And,
01:50:11
uh, that's a that's a series wrap all around. >> Yeah. So, she goes and tells Charlie and
01:50:17
Harry and they go out hunting. But, this is a big deal because when she tells uh
01:50:22
Charlie and Harry, for some reason, I was going to like morph their names together.
01:50:27
>> There's no phone on the wall in the cupboards where there is a phone later. >> Oops. So, like I maybe they got a
01:50:34
landline within this time frame really quickly. >> But just so you know that. >> Yeah. You just never know. But she she
01:50:40
does she goes back down and like they're at the at Jake's house at one point. And
01:50:45
that's when she discovers that he's a werewolf. Like they show her because I think she like aggravates is it Embry or
01:50:52
one of the >> Yeah, she one of them actually she goes there in the f Oh, I think she tries to
01:50:58
call him or something. Yeah. Yeah. >> Something happens where she ends up being like she pisses one of them off
01:51:04
and they phase. >> Yeah. >> And she runs away from him and when she's running Jake runs out of the house
01:51:09
and she's like run Jake run Jake run Jake run. It's the way she says it is so funny.
01:51:15
>> She says it like his name is Jake Run >> and they, you know, they fight all that
01:51:18
and then they're walking on the beach and he's explaining things to her cuz now she's seen it.
01:51:22
>> We missed a part. So Jacob does come to her room at one point after this whole
01:51:27
like Laurent situation. He like shows up cuz remember he parkour up to her room.
01:51:31
>> Oh my god, we missed. I think it would have been so funny if he just went. If you've seen the office episode where
01:51:38
they all parkour and they just keep yelling parkour while like hitting things, that's what I think of. And in
01:51:44
this exchange between the two of them, he's saying, "I can't tell you, >> but like think
01:51:50
about when we were walking on the beach when you came to La Push." And she was like, and he was like, "Do you remember
01:51:55
what I told you?" And she goes, "About the cold ones." And he goes, "I guess I understand why that's the only part you
01:52:00
remember." And I said, "You narcissistic [ __ ] He told you about wolves. You only heard the part that had
01:52:08
anything to do with you or something you were interested in. When he told you the
01:52:12
lore of his people whose land you are currently standing on at La Push, >> you checked out.
01:52:19
>> What the [ __ ] She really is so narcissistic. >> She's got narcissistic tendencies.
01:52:23
>> It's like wild. She just does not hear. If it has to do with anyone else's [ __ ]
01:52:28
>> she doesn't care. >> She does not give a [ __ ] >> She doesn't care. Also, um this is when
01:52:32
he like looks at her scar and it has moved. >> It has >> because in the first movie it's like on
01:52:38
the side of her arm. So, it's like on the top and the bottom, but here it's just on like the inside of her arm.
01:52:43
>> Yeah. >> And also, I'm like you don't get questions about that more often. >> That's what I'm wondering.
01:52:49
>> Like that's the only person who flips your arm around. >> Bite scar. >> It's It looks like my whole night guard
01:52:54
imprinted on my arm. >> It's massive. [laughter] >> It is huge. [snorts] So, it's after this discussion in
01:53:03
Bella's bedroom where she's like, "Oh, yeah. I remember stuff that that appealed to me, but I completely ignored
01:53:11
the lore of your people." >> Yeah. >> I love when Jacob's like, "All right, I'm going to go."
01:53:18
>> He's like, "You know what? [ __ ] it. >> I'm going to parkour the [ __ ] out of
01:53:20
here." >> Yeah. He goes parkour and he leaves. So then that's when we get the scene of
01:53:25
her, you know, showing up and that's when she like sees that they are werewolves because in
01:53:32
>> in the room he's like, "I wish I could tell you. I literally can't. I wish you
01:53:36
knew how tightly I'm bound to this." And that's when he says like, "I did say it
01:53:40
a little bit on the bush." On the beach. And she's like, "Yeah, I didn't hear that." On the bush.
01:53:44
>> On the bush. >> On the bush. >> I was I was thinking la push and beach at the same time.
01:53:48
>> I get that. But uh this is when she sees it because she slaps one of them. >> Yeah. Which is rude, which is like very
01:53:55
violent and >> Yeah. You can't just go around people. >> Um but she she slapped him and he got
01:54:00
real mad cuz he's a wolf now. And so he was like and then he turns into a wolf. >> Yeah.
01:54:06
>> And that's when she does the whole run Jake run Jake run Jake run. >> It's the way she said. I'm telling you.
01:54:13
Listen to it again. It'll it'll hit you different. >> No, it's funny. Um, >> what are the [ __ ] odds that your
01:54:19
first boyfriend in high school, like to our knowledge, is a vampire? >> Yeah. >> And then the next boy that you hang out
01:54:25
with is a werewolf. What are the [ __ ] odds? >> What are the o how does someone hit the
01:54:29
jackpot like that is what I want to know. I just got a dumb human. >> Do I Wow, I know. Yeah, I just got a
01:54:37
human. You just called them out. I mean, like dumb as in like humans are dumb. He
01:54:41
was pretty dumb. He was not great either. Yeah, [laughter] I was I was like, I know your first high school
01:54:45
boyfriend. He was pretty dumb. Um, mine, too. Mine, too. >> I think most of us were.
01:54:50
>> Yeah. I don't even know where I was going with that. I just like, what are the odds?
01:54:53
>> Yeah, that's the thing. I My daughters all like they can't watch Twilight yet.
01:54:59
>> They never talked about it, but we will for a cautionary tale at some point. And
01:55:02
I feel like it is like a it's it's like we we joke about it, but it's like it's a right of passage. I feel like you got
01:55:08
to but you just got to preface it with like this is wild. >> This is toxic. Um, but for the fun like
01:55:14
romance and vampire and werewolf and of it all. But I was discussing it with John last night. I was mentioning
01:55:21
something about New Moon and he and the girls were like, "What is that?" And I was like, "Oh, remember I like me."
01:55:27
Because I've told them like, "Oh, there's this movie Twilight. It's a book. Someday you'll read it. It's in
01:55:31
the zeitgeist. >> It's there." And so they were like, "Oh, like when can we watch that?" And I was
01:55:35
like, "Not for a while." >> But I was like, "Oh, there's this really cool scene with Victoria and the
01:55:40
werewolf." And I was talking about the the one that's coming up and it's like when He hearing Damage by Tom York is
01:55:46
playing. >> It's such a good scene >> and they wanted they were like can we watch the scene and I was like so I
01:55:50
watched the scene I was like give me a second. >> It's not scary really. >> No it's not scary at all but I was like
01:55:54
this is a cool scene. So I showed it to them and all three of them were like when can we watch them? And I was like I
01:55:59
know I just gave you like and I was like the whole movie isn't like that but it does have these vibes.
01:56:04
>> Honestly I think you said it when we were watching it. That's the best scene in the entire and it's coming up because
01:56:10
>> it's coming up. >> It's coming up because it right before that happens like she finds out that
01:56:16
Jake's a werewolf. He changes in front of her. She's like, "Holy shit." He's like this beautiful like amber colored
01:56:22
werewolf. >> Where is the color of his werewolf coat? >> Exactly. And she sings that.
01:56:26
>> Yeah, she does. You miss that part. It's only in the director's cut >> and it's so quick you'll miss it. Uh you
01:56:31
have to like you have to pause between the the different film slides to get it. It's actually not even in the director's
01:56:36
cut. It's only in special exclusive cuts that only few few people know. >> Yeah, it's only in the cut that I have.
01:56:42
>> Well, I have it too, actually. >> No, only I do. >> Well, I I knew about it first. So,
01:56:47
[laughter and gasps] >> but they go for a walk to discuss his his new found werewolfness.
01:56:53
>> And Bella says to him, "Can't you find a way to just stop?" And then she says, "It's
01:57:01
wrong." Yeah, >> I'm sorry. >> This should be the moment where Jake goes, you know what?
01:57:09
>> Not worth it. >> Not worth it. That's like because what the [ __ ] is Let me get this straight.
01:57:15
And he literally says he's like, "Oh, I'm not the right kind of monster for you. You jackass." [laughter]
01:57:20
>> That is That is such a great jackass moment. >> Jackass. Like, okay. No, not for
01:57:27
nothing, baby. baby. >> But Edward was a [ __ ] human who got bit by a vampire and turned into a
01:57:33
vampire. He's not genetically predispositioned to be a vampire. He had he apparently didn't have a choice
01:57:39
because Carle was saving him and like kind of took that choice away from him, right?
01:57:43
>> But like it's not in his genetic code to be a vampire. It's not through generations that he became one.
01:57:50
>> The Quillute tribe in this instance, the whole thing is you're directly tied to
01:57:55
that bloodline. happen. >> You don't have a choice. It's happening. >> You come across a vampire, boom,
01:58:01
>> and it's like to say to someone where this is literally in their blood, >> that's wrong
01:58:07
>> and not a choice. I'm like, that's [ __ ] that sounds homophobic as [ __ ] >> It's racist.
01:58:12
>> Like to sit there and be like, >> it's actually it's speciesist. >> She's saying it's a choice.
01:58:16
>> Yeah. No, she is. >> And then it's wrong. >> She would she would love right now.
01:58:20
>> She would love right now. would she would like I was like that is the most f it's weird that they kept that in there
01:58:26
because I was like she became diabolically unlikable in that moment like cuz poor Jake is sitting there
01:58:34
can't do anything >> and also this is brand new for him too like he's heard these legends and he
01:58:40
didn't know that it was going to happen to him exactly he's still getting used to it
01:58:44
>> wrong and like one of the first people that ever gets to see this insane like
01:58:50
just wild thing about you. That's their reaction. >> You [ __ ] >> It's wrong. [snorts]
01:58:55
>> You [ __ ] >> Can't you just find a way to Is it Is it a phase? >> No. >> That's essentially what she's saying to
01:59:01
him. And I was like, you [ __ ] >> Yeah, >> it pissed me off so much. I was like,
01:59:06
what? That's the crazy thing, too. >> You're in love with a vampire. >> It's wrong. She's lit. And also like she
01:59:11
barely asked Edward any questions. >> No, he said he was a vampire and she was like, "Let's run through those trees,
01:59:15
bitch." >> Not only that, he literally said, "This is the skin of the Bella and she said he
01:59:21
has told her I want to kill you. >> Yeah, >> but I won't. But I want to kill you at
01:59:27
all times. >> Told her I have I am a killer. >> And she's like, "It's okay, baby." And
01:59:33
then Jacob's like, "Hey, I'm a fluffy dog and I'm protecting people right now." And she's like, "That's really
01:59:38
wrong. Can't you stop?" >> Gross. >> And then she's like, "They don't hurt anyone."
01:59:42
>> And I'm like, >> he's like, "Neither do we." >> And also >> And also they do hurt people.
01:59:45
>> They made a choice to not hurt anyone. >> Yeah. But they didn't go through their
01:59:49
entire lives doing that. >> Facts. >> Also, I'm sorry, babe. They haven't hurt anyone. Why don't you pull Jasper aside?
01:59:56
Once you pull Jasper aside, >> have him look you in the eye. Oh, wait. He can't. He'll eat you first. If you
02:00:02
can get him aside, >> ask him. >> At least you can get >> Ask him if he's hurt anyone.
02:00:06
>> At least you could get a paper cut in front of Jake >> and he would probably help you out.
02:00:10
>> What a [ __ ] up. >> I was like, Jacob to still be into this after this conversation. [laughter]
02:00:16
I know. It's >> like wild. >> It's like the the thing we tell the kids that we should not tell him is like,
02:00:21
"Oh, she's mean to you. She likes >> because she likes you." Like, I feel like he thinks that. That's not the
02:00:25
case. >> No. >> So, that's [ __ ] up. And even he's like, "Wow, you're [ __ ] up for saying
02:00:30
that." And we do get a scene where it's Bella deciding what she has to do. She knows what she has to do, which in her
02:00:38
mind is jump off that cliff that all those >> Yeah. all the other werewolves were
02:00:42
jumping off because it's going to be a rush and she's gonna get to see Edward again. And she said that's the only way,
02:00:47
which I was like, I feel like you've seen him enough up to this point that you could do about a thousand other
02:00:52
things to see him. >> Yeah. >> That wouldn't include jumping off a 4,000 ft tall cliff
02:00:57
>> in all Here's my biggest Here's my biggest issue. It's not even the 4,000t tall cliff. Why does she jump in all of
02:01:04
her clothing? >> Mhm. >> Why does she li She jumps in with her Converse on. >> Yeah. Why?
02:01:12
Why do that? >> Why not? >> Why jump in with your little jacket that you always Why?
02:01:18
>> Oh, no. She took the jacket off. >> Did she take her jacket off? Did she take her Converse off or did she jump
02:01:21
in? >> I don't think she did. I think she took her She jumped in Converse. >> I can't I can't
02:01:27
>> I don't I just don't get why. Like you watched werewolves, which are supernatural beings
02:01:36
with supernatural healing abilities >> who run hot >> who run hot jump off of that and
02:01:41
survive. And you said I probably can too. >> Yeah, >> it'll probably be the same for me.
02:01:46
>> Well, and also like >> did she think that? Cuz you've been hallucinating. There's been a lot of
02:01:52
stuff happening right now that I just don't think you're in your your complete clear mind right now to be making smart
02:02:00
decisions for yourself when you think you're seeing Edward. >> Yeah. >> Whenever you do something dumb.
02:02:05
>> Yep. >> And that the it so she's sitting there like basically writing an email to
02:02:12
Alice, which Have we mentioned the emails? >> I don't remember. >> I don't know if we've mentioned the
02:02:17
emails. If we haven't, I'm sorry if we have. just when there was a possibility during that 4mon period, she and during
02:02:25
this entire time that Edward's been away, she is sending an email a day, sometimes two emails a day at the most
02:02:31
crazy times of night, like 3:00 in the morning, 2:00 in the morning. I paused. >> Yeah,
02:02:36
>> I counted 13 when I counted and that was just in like a month or two. >> And they're all being returned.
02:02:43
>> Yeah. So, they're not even making it to >> You know, you know the mail or demon?
02:02:46
>> The mail or demon? Yeah. >> Yeah. That guy. Demon or demon? >> I always call it the demon.
02:02:50
>> It might be the demon. >> I don't know. Whatever it is, >> I'm like when that you don't continue to
02:02:53
send. >> No, >> you don't make the demon demon work overtime. >> Yeah. >> But so she writes her an email.
02:02:59
>> It's insane. So she's she's in the middle of writing her an email uh Alice saying that this is what she has to do.
02:03:06
She knows this is what she has to do. >> Yep. >> And we hear that voice over and her
02:03:11
getting ready to go to the cliff. And we also get this really cool like mashup of
02:03:18
Victoria as Charlie and Harry Clearwater and all the guys are looking for this bear
02:03:23
>> quote unquote which has now been told they've been told it's a wolf >> by Bella
02:03:29
>> because when she when she sees it after like it attacks Luron she lets them know
02:03:34
>> they're wolves. >> Um they're huge. >> It is not a bear. Uh and there so they're in the woods like searching for
02:03:40
him. They have guns. They're doing the whole search party and we see Victoria stalking them in the tree. She's so
02:03:45
[ __ ] cool in this. Also, she somehow found hair dye to make that hair really red in this one.
02:03:50
>> Super vibrant. >> Um, very vibrant. Love it. It's wonderful. >> But it's just funny that it changed
02:03:54
between when she's been like living in the woods. [laughter] But like, okay. I mean, she it's berries.
02:03:58
>> She finds time to like get tone, you know? >> Um, just a what is it? A gloss and
02:04:03
>> little quick gloss, you know? >> Bleach and tone. >> There you go. And we see Harry
02:04:08
Clearwater like covering up wolf tracks as they go because like that's his people.
02:04:13
>> And so Victoria at one point grabs Harry Clearwater before he can like shoot her
02:04:22
and lifts him up in the air and he's like petrified. And then before she can do anything, a wolf comes and just like
02:04:32
t-bones her >> and so Harry falls to the ground. He's all stressed out. He ends up having a
02:04:36
heart attack. >> It's the saddest death because Harry Clearwater is the most adorable man and
02:04:41
I love him. I would lay down my life for Harry. >> Sad. And what happens in the book is you
02:04:47
we've mentioned Leah Clearwater >> and her plight which we will get to. I think she has many
02:04:52
>> I think the next one maybe the one after that. It's either Eclipse or the first
02:04:56
Breaking Dawn. Um but we get to her plight. One other thing that Stephanie Meyer added onto her plate is that in
02:05:03
the book, Harry Clearwater dies from a heart attack because Aaliyah transforms into a wolf in front of him for the
02:05:08
first time and he has a heart attack from it. So, she kills her [laughter] essentially.
02:05:13
>> It's like, damn, you really did her >> kills her dad and then she has to listen
02:05:16
to her loved one imprint on her cousin. >> Yeah. Not great. >> Rock on. >> Not great. Uh, but so so Harry has a
02:05:23
heart attack and this is when Tom York's hearing damage plays over it. Perfect song for this. Perfectly shot. There's a
02:05:32
scene of like Victoria and I think it's Jacob, >> I'm pretty sure, as a wolf. >> Oh, I think you're right.
02:05:37
>> They are like on opposite sides of a clearing and they do this like faceoff thing and then they just like lunge at
02:05:43
each other and she does these cool like slow motion flips in the air and [ __ ] >> And Tom, what is it? Tom York.
02:05:49
>> Yeah. >> He has such a cool voice. >> He does. And the the song is just perfect. It gives you chills.
02:05:54
>> It's such a vibe. and she's running away from the whole pack of wolves and it's
02:05:57
like slow motion and I can see it in my head right now. It's a really and they do these overhead shots and everything's
02:06:03
really lush and green. And it's like this this scene. I thought I said if the whole movie was like this,
02:06:10
>> it would be even better cuz it's like >> I know the romance is part of it, >> but I if we could tone down some of the
02:06:16
melodramatics and get a little more of like vampires versus wolves, which we get later, I think
02:06:22
>> like that becomes more of a thing. We see like these battles and everything. It's really fun.
02:06:26
>> It really is. >> So, I really love this. So, but uh she gets away by jumping off the cliff,
02:06:33
>> right? And it's like she like swan dives out and it's gorgeous. >> And is it that they can't go in the
02:06:38
water because it's like where the tree I think it's they chase her to like where
02:06:41
the treaty is. >> The treaty is maybe. Yeah. Cuz she jumps right into the water. She like swan
02:06:46
dives and Jacob is like right after her and he's has a wolf and he stops on the cliff and is like
02:06:52
>> um so she jumps in there and then we see Bella get to the top of the cliff. She
02:06:57
jumps in. >> As she jumps in, >> worst timing. We see we see um Edward tell her not to. She's like, "This is
02:07:05
the only way that I can see you." And he's like, "Please don't." >> She jumps in anyways.
02:07:10
>> She like gets like beat up by some waves cuz it's like >> clear like clean crystal water like
02:07:18
>> cuz when she jumps in it's good, but then she literally gets [ __ ] smacked in the face with Yeah. barrel roll.
02:07:24
>> Like literally like slams into a rock. Like slams her head into a rock course.
02:07:28
She's just floating underwater, which I guess they weighted her down to get that
02:07:31
shot. Oh, like I think they put weights in her pockets so that she could float slow like that.
02:07:37
>> And uh you see you see the vision of Edward like opposite her so their heads are next to each other
02:07:43
>> when he dissipates >> cuz she gets pulled out of the water and she like you can arm kind of flails
02:07:51
>> when she gets barrel rolled. Once she like kind of gets her bearings, she sees
02:07:55
Victoria swimming to towards her underwater. The most beautiful fish there ever was.
02:07:59
>> Literally scariest and most beautiful fish. That's when she backs up and hits
02:08:03
her head into the rock. Here's my thing with this. This is an issue. She can run
02:08:08
so fast. She can't swim just as fast. I mean, maybe it has something to do with the water.
02:08:13
>> They didn't tell me. >> Is it in the illustrated guide? And also she might have just been swimming up on
02:08:19
her slow for for >> for the fear factor and she didn't know that somebody was gonna pull her out
02:08:24
>> maybe >> because she was backing into the rock. She was going to be out cold so she had
02:08:27
all the time in the world >> to get to her >> still. >> But when she when she gets pulled out
02:08:32
her hand kind of like floats to the side and then Edward just like dissipates. >> Edward Vincent Van goes right out of
02:08:38
there. >> It does. It's like Salvador Dolly painting. It just like melts. Uh but yeah, so she gets it's Jacob who
02:08:45
pulls her out and gives her CPR. She goes full crosseyed again. >> She also swallows the water instead of
02:08:52
spitting it out, which I was like in that case like I know dry drowning is weird but like she might dry drown
02:08:57
later. >> Well, and also I was just like just spit it out. I think they put that water in
02:09:00
your mouth so you could spit it out for effect, not swallow it. >> Bellisan would swallow the water she was
02:09:05
drowning [laughter] on though. But she goes crosseyed again. And now I'm like, every time she is near death, she goes
02:09:11
crossey. >> She does such an interesting crossey, too, because it's not both eyes, it's
02:09:15
one of her eyes that crosses. It's like a >> I got to think about it. Hold on. This
02:09:19
is not a visual podcast, so it doesn't matter. But I really wanted to give it a shot.
02:09:22
>> Oh, and when Bella jumps off that cliff, by the way, she barely jumps out. >> Oh, that is another piss. She just steps
02:09:30
off. >> You're going to die in all the rocks underneath there. >> I was like, what the [ __ ] [snorts] No.
02:09:35
Jacob gets her home and when they pull up they see Carlo's car and she's like, "Holy shit." And he says like, "I can
02:09:44
smell them in there." And she's like, she's like, "I got to go in there." And Jacob's begging her not to. And saying
02:09:50
like, "I can't protect you." And all this. And I think it's at this point that she literally she just tells him
02:09:58
like, >> "I don't care. I'll be with Edward doing this." like she's being so clear to him
02:10:07
and he just unfortunately it's horrible but she has been from the start like when they were sitting on the was it
02:10:14
when they were sitting in the movie theater and she was like >> yeah like I don't want you to go away.
02:10:18
>> Yeah it's >> that's the thing it's like there's there's a lot of mixed vibes happening
02:10:22
here I feel and Jacob's young so [snorts] I feel like it's like >> uh but she goes in there and it's Alice
02:10:29
who's there and Alice is all upset. She says she saw a vision of of um Bella jumping off the cliff that she was
02:10:36
trying to kill herself. Like she was like, "What the fuck?" And they hug and you know, it's a whole reunion
02:10:41
>> and she's like, "Why the [ __ ] does it smell like what dog in your house?" >> Yeah. And she's like And Jacob shows up
02:10:46
and is like, "I had to make sure you were okay." And Alice and Jacob have this like really tense standoff. And she
02:10:54
at one point they get like into it for a second and it it's like as soon as Jacob
02:11:01
gets upset he gets very it's he he's not scary. >> No. >> Which which is like not his fault. He's
02:11:10
just like >> but also he just like I feel like Taylor Lner who plays Jacob >> is has such a kind face. You know what I
02:11:20
mean? like and he has a kind way about him that just like could not make me scared of him.
02:11:26
>> Yeah. >> And so when he say he says, "Don't get me upset. Things are going to get very
02:11:31
ugly." And I was like, "No, they won't. [laughter] >> They could never. They can't."
02:11:36
>> I think if I was Alice, I'd be like, "Boop." Like [laughter] she basically does. She's like, "Yeah, [ __ ] off."
02:11:42
>> She kind of does. Like I was like, >> doesn't she say like, "We can we can figure this out when you put the dog
02:11:47
out." >> Yeah. She cuz she's like, "Where are you going, Alice?" And she's like, "I'm
02:11:49
going to let you take the dog out." And I was like, "Oh, girl, burn. >> That's a lead."
02:11:54
>> Uh, but when he said things are going to get very ugly, I said, "Babe, never.
02:11:58
They could never with you. They could never get ugly with you." >> They're not. >> It's [laughter]
02:12:04
It's just wild. It's next level. >> Um, so they end up, you know, Jacob and Bella
02:12:10
are talking. So, I think the phone rings. She goes in the kitchen. The phone rings. They Jacob and Bella have a
02:12:16
moment where they almost kiss. >> Yeah. Very close. >> Yeah. And then the phone rings
02:12:20
>> and he answers it. >> He's not pleased. He says Swan Res. >> You don't need to answer my telephone.
02:12:24
>> She wasn't going to answer that. >> But my telephone that is brand new. >> And you can tell he's a little pissed
02:12:28
when he answers it and he says she's not he's not here. >> He's planning a funeral
02:12:32
>> and he says he's planning a funeral and hangs up the phone. Now what he meant
02:12:35
there obviously this person asked for Charlie. >> Mhm. >> Charlie is planning a funeral for Harry
02:12:42
Clearwater. So that is a thing. >> Jacob, apparently this is like widely argued.
02:12:47
>> Yeah. Whether he intended to do this or not, >> he definitely did. In my opinion,
02:12:52
Stephanie Meyer says no. Here's the thing. I mean, I would trust her cuz she wrote it.
02:12:56
>> I know. I know. But >> but but here's here's my reason why I do believe this.
02:13:02
He does not know that the Cullens had any idea of Bella [snorts and clears throat] jumping off
02:13:11
that cliff to try to like kill herself. He doesn't know that. >> That's true. He He wasn't like Alice
02:13:17
didn't say I'm here because she tried to kill herself. Like he doesn't know that.
02:13:21
>> That's true. >> So him saying that wouldn't make sense. Especially because >> Oh, actually when you put it that way,
02:13:26
that's a good point. >> It's Edward on the phone and he's asking for Charlie as well. So I think he's
02:13:30
more looking at it like he's trying to get to her through Charlie. [ __ ] you. Charlie's planning a funeral. Like you
02:13:36
piece of [ __ ] Like your little love story doesn't matter. Somebody died. Cuz that's also Jacob's family member.
02:13:41
>> Yeah. >> So like Harry Clear. That's a good I never even thought of that point. I
02:13:45
think he doesn't know. >> It makes sense that he would want to take it that way and that if he did have
02:13:50
all the information, >> sure, maybe he would have done that and I could absolutely see that. But he
02:13:56
didn't have all that information. So, it doesn't really make sense that he would
02:13:59
have said it that way. I think he was more annoyed that he felt Edward was trying to get to Bella through Charlie.
02:14:05
Yep. Yep. >> Like trying to So, he's like, "Fuck you." He's planning a funeral. >> Yeah.
02:14:08
>> Yeah. So, that does happen. We see on the other end, >> it's just the worst possible thing he
02:14:13
could have said. >> It is cuz Bella probably saw it as like even though she knows he doesn't have
02:14:18
all the information, she's still pissed. Why didn't you hand me the phone? That was Edward,
02:14:21
>> right? >> And we see Edward, he literally crushes his phone in his hand and he's in a
02:14:26
dingy apartment. He looks a hot mess. Yeah, he's he's not doing well, >> which also I'm like, what's going on?
02:14:33
Where was everybody? That's the thing. I don't think that I don't remember in the
02:14:38
book because I just watched the movie. I read the book forever ago, but I'm like,
02:14:42
do they all go to their separate places? But then I don't I don't know because somehow I think he's with Rosalie.
02:14:50
>> Yeah, because Rosalie or at least is in contact with them. >> I mean, which he's not via cell phone
02:14:56
according to Google. >> Google, you see him. He's in this apartment. He's looking out his window.
02:15:03
It's at night. You can see the Christ the Redeemer statue in the background. Okay. So when I saw that I said that's
02:15:09
Brazil, that's Rio di Janeiro. Okay. Like I or what I believed it was. >> Apparently that's where he was. He
02:15:16
traveled alone and he ended up there. >> Wait, I think the rest of them went from
02:15:20
New York. >> To New York. >> Yeah. So apparently this >> he went to Brazil and they went to New
02:15:26
York. >> Yeah. They did not go together. >> Interesting. I think I actually now I'm
02:15:31
remembering from the book something about Brazil. >> Yeah. And it makes sense because you see
02:15:36
that stat that's a famous statue out the window. So I remember seeing it and being like, "Wait a minute."
02:15:40
>> Oh, so he has to fly to Italy. >> Yeah. >> Huh. It's actually so funny because this
02:15:47
I remember being like there it makes no sense that they got to him before >> he like before like in in perfect time.
02:15:56
It does make sense because if he's in Brazil and he's flying to Italy, a direct flight is 11 to 13 hours. And
02:16:02
then from Washington to Italy is 8 and a half, nine and a half hours. See, that makes sense.
02:16:07
>> So, it makes sense now. >> That makes a lot more sense because I was there was so many cuz I knew he
02:16:12
wasn't in Italy because I was like that statue, but I was like >> for some reason and it it has nothing to
02:16:18
do with the background. For some reason, I had it in my head. He was in Tokyo. >> Who know? Yeah. I don't know. But I
02:16:25
guess the rest of them according to Google, >> they're in New York. >> They're in New York. and Carlile like
02:16:30
got like started like I guess he like went like taught classes at Cornell for a little while.
02:16:35
>> Okay. >> Um but how does Rosalie get in touch with Edward then? >> Must have called him before he talked to
02:16:42
Cuz what did she say Rosalie said? >> So I think it's that Rosalie said that cuz I'm assuming
02:16:50
>> Rosalie told him about the vision and that's why he calls. Okay. That's why he
02:16:54
calls to like really check. And when he heard he's planning a funeral, he was like, "Holy [ __ ] it really happened."
02:16:59
>> There we go. Wow. >> And he was like, "I got to go." >> I don't know why my brain just like
02:17:02
>> No, it is. It's a little confusing because telephone >> and in the book in the movie I don't
02:17:08
think they're clear about where the rest of the >> in the movie they're not >> the family went because in the movie I
02:17:13
think he mentions Charlie says something about like I think it's Charlie who says
02:17:18
it that like um Carile got a job >> in LA or something it's either in the movie or the book I can't remember now.
02:17:25
>> Okay. I think it might be in the book. >> I think that's the book. >> In the book I think they say like he got
02:17:29
a job in LA and he just had to take it. So they just up and left. and left. >> So, yeah. So, it's very interesting.
02:17:37
There's a lot of moving pieces which can be a little little clunky to understand,
02:17:42
but we we figured it out. >> Um, so he >> he crushes his phone. Um, and we see like them traveling, you know, now and
02:17:53
Jacob tries to like begs Bella not to go >> because Alice says he's going to show
02:17:58
himself to the volter now that he thinks you're dead. >> Yeah. He's going to show up to because
02:18:02
that was his plan. Remember before when he thought Bella was dead, he told her his plan.
02:18:06
>> And now that he has no cell phone, there's no way to tell him, which is why we don't overreact and crush our cell
02:18:10
phones into a million pieces. >> Exactly. You need to keep your cell phone on you. So, or at least have an
02:18:15
Apple Watch, something. Um, but yeah, so they're on their way. Jacob tries to stop her and she's like, I'm leaving.
02:18:22
And he's really sad and >> it's sad. >> It's upsetting. >> Uh, but they go they go to Italy. Um,
02:18:27
Alice's driving outfit. Queen [ __ ] She looks the driving gloves stunning. She looks wonderful. St. Is it
02:18:37
Ashley Green? >> Yeah, >> she is stupid pretty like that. That this this one shot of her. She has like the head
02:18:45
wrap on the sunglasses >> and she's got the driving gloves. >> I die. >> Hi. >> I die. I will. I want to drive like
02:18:53
that. >> Also, I don't know. I think we mentioned it in the first one, but in I can't
02:18:58
remember if we did or not. Um, apparently Stephanie Meyer's brothers are like big car heads, so they helped
02:19:03
her decide like what cars were going to be in the in the movie and in the books.
02:19:07
>> Yeah. Which is I think that's cute. >> That makes sense. And um, so she's got
02:19:12
to go, they get to Voltera, there's a festival going on, everybody's in red cloaks and all that [ __ ] Um, and he's
02:19:19
play he he went to the Viri to say like, I want to die. But Arrow is like, "Nah,
02:19:24
dude. Your gift is like a little too special. I can't kill you. Sorry about it. >> I could kill my own sister, but not
02:19:29
you." >> Arrow's the best. Cuz he's just like, >> "Oops, sorry. [laughter] Sorry to You
02:19:35
could join us, though. We would love that. Like, let's, you know, we can't kill you, but be one of us."
02:19:41
>> And he's like, "No, thank you." And so, he just decides that he's going to walk
02:19:44
out into the festival and show himself to everyone, and then the Vuri will have no choice. And this festival is like all
02:19:50
about the day that like they killed the last vampire or something like that. So it's like this is the big thing.
02:19:54
>> This is not good. >> Um so she gets to him with like seconds to spare. He's about to walk out of
02:19:59
where the Vuri is. >> He starts to sparkle shirtless. >> That's the thing. I love that his plan
02:20:04
is just to sparkle for the people. >> Yeah. >> Which anybody I feel like anybody would
02:20:09
look at that and be like, "Oh my god, look at that guy with that body glitter. Where'd you get that?"
02:20:14
>> It's so sparkly. >> That would be some crazy eye. [snorts and laughter] >> I'd be like, "Who's the holographic?"
02:20:18
holographic over there. >> I feel like that's pretty sick. I would not be like, "Whoa, vampire
02:20:22
>> a creature of the night over there." >> But I mean, maybe these people know because they're they're wellvered in.
02:20:27
>> They're in Valera after all. >> She runs right through the fountain. She didn't have to do that. [snorts]
02:20:32
>> Go around it. >> I don't think >> water slows you down. >> Um or you could have just ran along the
02:20:36
edge cuz like Yeah, water slows you down. I just It bothered me. >> That's silly.
02:20:39
>> Um but she gets to him right in the last second. She jumps on him. He says, "Heaven," which I was like, "That's
02:20:46
really sweet." I know >> it is sweet. Like they they like he thinks he's in heaven.
02:20:50
>> I know. >> And I was like that's real sweet. >> It is >> that moment I was like oh okay
02:20:56
>> back to your love. Let's go. They they pull you in every He loves her so much.
02:21:01
>> He does. Even though he left her in the middle of the fort. >> Forget about that.
02:21:05
>> But that happened. A little girl did see him while he was sparkling now. And she
02:21:09
was like trying to She was like tugging on her parents being like, "Look at this
02:21:11
[ __ ] sparkly [laughter] [ __ ] over there." Yep. Um, but they get in there. Felix and I think Dimmitri, which
02:21:18
are like two of the guards, come over and are like, "Hey, Arrow wants to see you." And he's like, "No, I don't need
02:21:23
them anymore. Like, I'm not looking to kill myself anymore." >> He's like, "Yeah, that's not what he
02:21:27
wants." >> Yeah, he still wants to see you. And then Jane appears and she's like, he
02:21:31
wants to know why it's taking so long. And I was like, [ __ ] it's been it literally took a second, but okay.
02:21:37
>> She has this stare. Dakota Fanning does such a good job of this like deadeyed
02:21:42
like I'll [ __ ] kill you stare. >> Yeah. >> I was like damn. [snorts] >> But they go in they they see like that
02:21:48
there's a secretary there that's a human. And this is when they go in and Belle is like
02:21:53
>> oh does she want to become and one of I think it's like Dimmitri or Felix is like so she will become and then that's
02:22:00
when Jane says or she'll be dessert. And they go in there. We see, you know, we see Marcus just [ __ ] himself to the
02:22:08
side there. He's >> so tortured. >> We see Arrow just my my king Arrow. We see Ka, that hating [ __ ] just
02:22:17
grudging over there, >> just hating everybody. >> Uh we see Vecna, the baby VCNA.
02:22:23
>> Yep. >> And they come in and Arrow through this whole thing, Arrow discovers that Bella
02:22:30
has a block. She has a block that she is not affected by their special gifts. >> Like Arrow can hear everybody's thoughts
02:22:37
forever since they were he like conceived of. He doesn't with her. >> So then he he tests out.
02:22:43
>> He tests out Jane. He has Jane try he first he has Jane hurt Edward >> real bad.
02:22:48
>> And he's on the ground like screaming and Bella's like, "Stop it. Stop it." Like do it to me. Do it thing. She says,
02:22:53
"Do it to me." And >> she's like And he's like, "All right, give it a try." And he's like, "Let's
02:22:56
see." And it does nothing. And Dakota Fanning is so good in this cuz it's tight on her face while she's doing and
02:23:02
she does this little smile like closed lip smile while she's doing it that like she clearly enjoys doing this
02:23:09
>> and then when she realizes it's not working the smile just slowly fades from her mouth like she the the emotion work
02:23:17
she did so tight on that shot is amazing. >> I mean she's been working since Uptown
02:23:22
Girls. >> She has and she's a she's phenomenal. She really is. And Arrow when he sees
02:23:28
and she's pissed like she stop like once she like cuts the connection she's like
02:23:32
[ __ ] a and she just like looks at Arrow and Arrow does his laugh here. >> It's a beautiful laugh.
02:23:38
>> It's so >> it's a laugh for the ages. >> It's a laugh for all of us. >> It is. In fact, if I was there I think I
02:23:44
would laugh with him just because I'd be [laughter] like yeah >> so fun. Sounds like a giggly time.
02:23:52
>> It really sounds like a giggly time. So [ __ ] goes down at this point because I
02:23:58
think it's I think Felix is like the big >> macho man >> hulking guard that just like is the
02:24:04
muscle here. >> Yeah. He can throw you through marble like it's nobody's business.
02:24:07
>> A fight breaks out. >> Felix slams Edward into the porcelain floor. >> Yeah. And his skin cracks like porcel. I
02:24:16
thought that was such a cool effect. Like like cuz >> the whole lore of vampires is they are
02:24:22
like porcelain. And that whole lore of like when they [ __ ] it probably sounds like porcelain dishes.
02:24:28
>> Yeah. >> Slaming against each other. So when he got slammed down there and he cracked
02:24:32
like porcelain, I was like, you really kept that. >> But then they heal super fast and it
02:24:36
just heals like immediately. It was interesting. >> I was so worried about this porcelain
02:24:40
though. I said, "This is probably >> thousands of years old. How are you going to replace this?"
02:24:44
>> I know. I was like, "You're ruining your your office." >> Gorgeous castle. >> Yeah, that would piss me off. I'd be
02:24:49
like, "Fix it now." Yeah, >> they probably find somebody who will absolutely fix it for them or they could
02:24:53
just kill them. >> Yeah. And when Arrow gets close to Bella >> and he and he's saying how like she
02:25:01
smells so good like I don't know how I don't know how you hold and Edward's literally like it's tough. He's
02:25:06
[laughter] like like they have like a real mo like they have a real bro moment and like it's hard my guy.
02:25:11
>> And he does the thing where he says Isabella like right in her face and I was like I love Arrow so much.
02:25:18
Everything he says is topnotch. >> So weird. >> The way Michael Sheen plays him is so
02:25:24
scary because it's so unsettling but like so unsettling >> in such a small like >> unnerving way.
02:25:32
>> He's very he's very the mayor coded. Y >> like he's very like he's got that like
02:25:38
that weird charming thing that happens. I don't know. >> He's very fun though. Uh Marcus is
02:25:43
wearing mules >> I'm pretty sure. like he he's really wearing like a house slipper.
02:25:47
>> Comfy. >> I noticed and I said, "Yeah, >> I bet they're Gucci." >> I bet. >> I bet.
02:25:53
>> Um and the basically the thing is she need because she has this special ability that now Arrow has discovered.
02:26:01
He's like, "Well, now she needs to be one of us because I collect special vampires." And so he was like, "She's
02:26:07
got to be turned." And >> and she knows about them, too. >> Yeah. Like he knows she knows about us.
02:26:11
She knows too much. And she has the special ability. like we're turning her, [ __ ] And he's like, "I'll turn her."
02:26:17
And Alice is like, "Wait a minute." And she's like, "I've seen that she's going to be turned. I will do it myself." And
02:26:23
so Arrow checks this because he can check her thoughts. And he's like, "All right." And he sees this [ __ ] crazy
02:26:30
ass vision. [laughter] >> It's the vest of Edward and Bella running out of a Renaissance fair,
02:26:36
>> running slow motion [snorts] through the forest barefoot >> in Renaissance gar.
02:26:40
>> And she's wearing a dress. Yeah. It's full Renaissance vibes. Sunlight is glistening on their sparkling skin and
02:26:47
she's a vampire. >> It's insane. >> Yeah. And so he saw this and he's like, "Awesome." Like cool. And he's like, "So
02:26:55
like >> he literally like cl and is like, "Okay, >> all right. >> I'm going to let you guys get to it and
02:27:02
let me know what it's done." Like so fun. And Marcus literally stands up and goes, "Thank you
02:27:10
for your visit." [laughter] It took everything in him >> to sit up and thank them.
02:27:20
>> It took his whole ass to. [laughter] And he's like, "Get the [ __ ] out of here
02:27:24
cuz I'm going to go [ __ ] my pants. >> Get the [ __ ] out of here because I have
02:27:29
been sitting with this gas pain for a long time and it's about to come to fruition. So get out.
02:27:34
>> I just [gasps] I was like I would I I feel like I would have to be like thank you Marcus for
02:27:40
[laughter] sitting through this. >> I know you would. >> Thank you for your visit.
02:27:46
>> I was like >> you never visited anybody that said that to you? >> I love it. Not like that. But I'm going
02:27:50
to say that >> to everyone who leaves my home next next Christmas Eve. Yeah. >> Any guest we have in the pod lab before
02:27:58
they leave, I'm going to say thank you >> for your visit. [singing] >> So just know that. So [laughter]
02:28:04
>> hopefully all future guests listen to this one episode that is about Twilight
02:28:07
for some reason [laughter] >> so they know. >> We'll point you to it. So they leave and
02:28:15
as they leave a big giant tour group full of men, women, and children are coming into that room and Bella's like,
02:28:23
"What the fuck?" And Edward's like, "You should probably look this way." And as the doors close, you hear them all
02:28:28
[screaming] screaming >> because they didn't get to kill they didn't get to kill Edward. They didn't
02:28:32
get to kill Bella. So that's like [ __ ] >> Yeah. So they they went nuts on those
02:28:37
men, women, and children. >> It's pretty gnarly. Uh we see back home at Bella's house, she's, you know, in
02:28:44
bed talking to Edward. It's a whole >> She should never be allowed in her house again after leaving her in the middle of
02:28:49
the woods and requiring a search party. >> He's not. He says he's not. >> Okay, that's good.
02:28:53
>> He But Charlie does not know he's there. >> Okay, wonderful. Yeah, cuz they have a
02:28:57
whole discussion about how he's sorry and he failed her and he'll never do it again and blah blah blah blah. the whole
02:29:02
thing. >> How are you going to explain that back together? >> And then Charlie comes in and I said,
02:29:06
"I'm here." >> And Charlie's like, "Hey, don't [ __ ] do that to me ever again."
02:29:12
And she's like, "I won't." And he's like, "No, seriously, don't." And then before he leaves, he goes,
02:29:17
>> "And you're grounded >> for the rest of your life." And I was like, "Honestly, so valid. Proper
02:29:23
parenting." >> Proper parenting. Absolutely. >> And next to him on the wall next to the
02:29:28
door is a painting of wolves. >> Oh. And it's very much in the shot >> in Bella's room.
02:29:34
>> Yeah. >> Oh, >> there's a painting of Wolf. I noticed that this time. >> And this is when Edward says like it's
02:29:40
going to take a long time for him to forgive me. And he's like, "Yeah." And he's like, "Well, I'm not breaking all
02:29:47
like I'm not breaking his rules because he said I can't step foot through the front door." And he's like, and I came
02:29:53
in through the window. >> That's a loophole. >> Which I was like, you're a [ __ ]
02:29:56
nightmare. You're every parent's nightmare. >> Yes. You didn't say I couldn't come in
02:30:00
the window. That was [ __ ] implied. You dumb [ __ ] >> You [laughter] better put it in writing
02:30:04
when you ban somebody from [clears throat] this house in writing. You're not coming through the front
02:30:07
door, back door, side door, window, skylight. >> You're not burrowing underground. You're
02:30:12
not No way. >> You can't be in this house by any means. >> Any means. >> And you can't be on the property inside.
02:30:17
>> I was like, you're a [ __ ] nightmare. >> You can't even be on my street. What the
02:30:19
[ __ ] I don't even care if you live here. You're evicted >> from my street. And he literally says at
02:30:26
some point to her because they're talking again about, oh, they're in the car and she's like, "We should wait
02:30:31
until after graduation because I will be chiller for Charlie if he turn me after
02:30:36
we graduate and blah blah blah." >> And he's like, at one point he says, >> "We can figure out something to tell the
02:30:43
Vuri like like I'm not." And I was like, "You're annoying." Like you're annoying
02:30:49
now. And and honestly, I was with her on this because she's like, "You're dumb."
02:30:54
And so they go to Edward's house and she's like, "I no like I want to take a vote. I want all your family to take a
02:30:59
vote if they think I should be turned." >> And at one point he says something and
02:31:03
she literally turns around to him and she goes, "Shut up." And I was like, "Oh, you're ready to be a couple." I was
02:31:11
like, "You're ready for lifelong partnership." >> You absolutely are because there will be
02:31:15
moments for the rest of your life where [laughter] you turn around and say, [snorts]
02:31:20
And so she's like, "Take a vote." So, you know, Alice is like, "I already consider you a sister." My votes yes.
02:31:27
Jasper says, "It would be super sick to not want to kill you all the time." Valid. Rosalie, she votes no. And she
02:31:36
gives a very like I think her hers hits so hard >> and especially cuz we'll find out more
02:31:44
about her backstory next in the next movie. And she says, "This is not the life I would have chosen for myself."
02:31:51
Which I was like, EMTT because he's right next to her. And she says, "And I wish someone had been there to vote no
02:31:58
for me." >> Yeah. >> Which is I'm like, "She cares about you." >> That's the thing actually proves in that
02:32:05
moment that she does care about >> she would have just said, "Yeah, sure." Like, who gives a [ __ ] I thought it was
02:32:10
so poignant. Like I think that's such a good you you literally sit there and you're like, "Fuck yeah, Ros,
02:32:15
>> you're a girl. That's a girl. Like that's a girl's girl right there. I need you to remember that in the book Edward
02:32:20
Breaks a TV about this. Oh my god, I didn't remember that at all. He breaks a TV after the vote. Um, in the frequently
02:32:26
asked questions from New Moon on Stephanie Meyer's site, it says, "What did Edward break in the living room
02:32:31
after the vote?" Edward ripped in h into halves a 60in plasma TV that the Cullins
02:32:36
had shipped in from Korea because it's not available in the States yet. EMTT was a bit annoyed. What a little bit.
02:32:42
Can you imagine? I'd be like, "So, who's your wife?" >> Yeah. >> Who's your lifelong partner?
02:32:48
>> Yeah. >> What? >> Like, what's going on? >> Well, you're you're ripping a Korean TV
02:32:52
and >> you're ripping a Korean TV. >> Yeah. Like, >> because I You have to change me.
02:32:58
>> That's dumb as hell. >> And also, like, what are we voting for? The Vuri already. He's lit. Him and
02:33:03
Rosalie are the only standouts, too, cuz Emtt's after Rosalie says that very poignant, very like,
02:33:08
>> you know, that should give you a moment. He's like, he's like, "Fuck yeah." And
02:33:12
he's just like, "Hell yeah." >> And see that those are the moments when you turn around and you go, "Shut up.
02:33:17
>> Shut up." And Esme says, "I've always considered you part of the family anyways." And Carl says, "This is really
02:33:25
the only way." Like he's like the goal, but he's like, "The Vuri is going to make this a problem. Like we just have
02:33:31
to do it." >> So >> cuz like the Vuri will kill your whole family. >> Yeah. It's like just [ __ ] do it. It's
02:33:36
not It's just not that deep. Like it's really not. She wants to be a vampire. Let her be a vampire. That's the thing.
02:33:40
Like it's the consent is there. >> Yeah. She wants it. >> I'd be like, "Why don't you want to hang
02:33:44
out with me for eternity?" >> Exactly. My problem. >> Um but they get back in the car. He's
02:33:50
not pleased. Um Jacob ends up standing in front of the car shirtless and directing them into the woods. So they
02:33:56
go in there. >> Um >> they love to be directed into the woods. >> They love being directed into the woods.
02:34:01
Jacob is literally like, "I'm not letting you do this." And she's like, "Yeah, you don't have a choice. It's
02:34:06
it's my choice." But little does she know. And he's like he's like, "Okay, [ __ ]
02:34:12
>> I call treaty." >> And he was like, "Um, the treaty says that you can't bite a human." So,
02:34:17
>> or else like all bets are off. >> And he's Yeah. And he's like >> like there will be no peace between
02:34:22
vampires. And >> like treaty will be off. Like that's it. Well, and then and he's like and all he
02:34:27
says to her like, "If this happens, I'm not like I'm not responsible for what happens after cuz like
02:34:33
>> cuz you'll be a vampire. >> It's just the way it is. felt like I will have to be your enemy essentially.
02:34:39
>> Yeah. >> And it's like a really rough scene. You feel really bad. And at one point like
02:34:44
him and Edward go toe-to-toe and like he changes into a wolf. It's like a whole thing. And it kind of ends there with
02:34:56
you know I I think is this where Edward he asks her to marry him? That is this where Edward though at first he says
02:35:03
like we're going to find a way around this. >> Oh he asks her he's like how about 5
02:35:08
years give me 5 years and she's like no like this would annoy at this point I'd be like you got to shut the [ __ ] up and
02:35:13
>> I know he's really annoying about it. >> Put up or shut up. Let Alice do it. >> Yeah.
02:35:17
>> Let anybody else do it. >> Let Carile do it. >> Yeah. He'd be so careful. >> He seems fine about it. He's pretty good
02:35:22
at it. [laughter] He's done it a few times. Yeah. >> And uh she has to negotiate and he's
02:35:26
like you're really stubborn. And then he's like, "Okay, I'll do it, but on one condition.
02:35:30
>> Marry me." >> And then he says, "Marry me, Bella." >> He proposes in a Volvo while they're
02:35:34
driving. >> Not the proposal of my dreams. >> I don't even think Were they even in the
02:35:40
car yet? I think they were still in the woods. Oh my god. Are they still on the side of the road?
02:35:43
>> They're still in the side of the road. In the woods. >> And he doesn't even get down on one
02:35:46
knee, does he? >> It was right after Jacob left like in tears. >> Oh. And he's like, "This seems like a
02:35:51
good time." >> No, he doesn't get down on one knee, I don't think. >> No ring. It's It's a real amidst chaos.
02:36:00
It's a real uh a real move. But you know, that sent Bella into orbit. >> Yeah, she she's excited.
02:36:12
>> Well, so are we. >> So are we because Eclipse is a whole other I really like Eclipse.
02:36:19
>> Eclipse is like so much [ __ ] happening. >> Eclipse, honestly, the next three
02:36:23
movies. Is it three? Three movies. Yeah, cuz Breaking Down is broken into two. >> The next three movies I remember being
02:36:28
so much fun. >> Yeah, cuz I think New Moon for me like bummer was kind of like it dipped for me
02:36:35
and I was like >> Eclipse comes back because >> Eclipse brings it back. >> There's like uh there's like a a war
02:36:42
basically being >> Yeah. You start like seeing other pieces, the puzzle and >> and remember the love triangle gets way
02:36:49
more intense. >> And remember, Victoria is still in these streets. >> She is still in these streets.
02:36:53
>> We didn't get rid of her. No, we did not. >> So, so get ready for that. >> We hope you keep listening
02:37:00
>> and we hope you >> keep it vampy. >> Oh, no. >> I [music] went crazy. You went nuts.
02:37:07
>> You could keep it vampy. Werewolfy. Sparkly. >> Yeah. >> Sparkly. >> Sparkly and weird.
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Badges

This episode stands out for the following:

  • 80
    Most heartbreaking
  • 70
    Most emotional
  • 70
    Most intense
  • 70
    Best visuals

Episode Highlights

  • Bella's Hair Evolution
    Bella's hair is really right in this one, but it gets awfuler in the next movie.
    @ 03m 24s
    January 31, 2026
  • Toxic Relationships
    The description of Bella's love for Edward raises concerns about toxic romance.
    “For Bella Swan there is one thing more important than life itself: Edward Cullen.”
    @ 13m 18s
    January 31, 2026
  • The Birthday Kiss
    Bella and Edward share a passionate kiss in the school parking lot, drawing attention.
    “Those are private moments.”
    @ 32m 09s
    January 31, 2026
  • Arrow's Dark Past
    Revealing Arrow's tragic backstory and his relationship with his sister.
    “He killed his own sister.”
    @ 50m 23s
    January 31, 2026
  • A Troubling Kiss
    Arrow kisses Jane, who is canonically 12, raising eyebrows about their age difference. "Shouldn't be kissing a 12-year-old on the lips."
    “Shouldn't be kissing a 12-year-old on the lips.”
    @ 56m 12s
    January 31, 2026
  • Bella's Attention-Seeking
    Bella's behavior at school raises eyebrows and concerns among her friends.
    “It's scaring the hell out of me.”
    @ 01h 14m 00s
    January 31, 2026
  • The Transformation Window
    Discussion on the lore of werewolves and their transformation triggers.
    “If you're going to transform, it happens during puberty in proximity to a vampire.”
    @ 01h 25m 20s
    January 31, 2026
  • Bella's Compliment to Jacob
    In a moment of vulnerability, Bella tells Jacob, "You're sort of beautiful," showcasing her feelings.
    “A killer line to say to somebody.”
    @ 01h 34m 36s
    January 31, 2026
  • Bella's Heartfelt Moment
    In a tense scene, Bella declares her love for Edward as danger approaches.
    “I love you. I love you, Edward.”
    @ 01h 49m 51s
    January 31, 2026
  • Harry Clearwater's Heart Attack
    The adorable Harry Clearwater suffers a heart attack during a tense encounter with Victoria.
    “It's the saddest death because Harry Clearwater is the most adorable man.”
    @ 02h 04m 37s
    January 31, 2026
  • Festival of Red
    A vibrant festival unfolds, with everyone dressed in red, setting the scene for drama.
    @ 02h 19m 14s
    January 31, 2026
  • Rosalie's Poignant Vote
    Rosalie's vote against Bella's transformation reveals her deep care and past regrets.
    “I wish someone had been there to vote no for me.”
    @ 02h 31m 56s
    January 31, 2026

Episode Quotes

  • This is so toxic.
    New Moon: Bonus Episode
  • I was just going to kill myself.
    New Moon: Bonus Episode
  • It's rough in the book. It's rough.
    New Moon: Bonus Episode
  • Nobody's more patient than a werewolf who was imprinted.
    New Moon: Bonus Episode
  • You jackass.
    New Moon: Bonus Episode
  • Thank you for your visit.
    New Moon: Bonus Episode

Key Moments

  • Age Gap56:15
  • Heartbreak1:07:24
  • Search Party1:08:32
  • Imprinting Explained1:29:04
  • Bella's Compliment1:34:32
  • Jort squad1:46:56
  • Bella's Choice2:10:03
  • Sparkle Plan2:20:01

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