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Hey weirdos, I'm Ash. And I'm Alina. >> And this is Morbid in the morning. Mini mini mini mini mini morbid mini
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morbid mini morbid mini morbid Times two. >> [laughter] >> A kind of double mini morbid in the
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morning. >> [laughter] >> Oh yeah, [ __ ] We are bringing back You guys love this song so much. I
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created a masterpiece [laughter] back in 2018 2017 whenever I did it. Which is hilarious cuz it started with the joke.
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>> have gone like triple platinum. Yeah, I Where's my Where's my Grammy? Um but yeah, so we're bringing back the
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morbid mini morbid theme song. We're going to start We kind of do this for spooky episodes already like we each
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tell a spooky tale. >> Yeah. Today we're going to talk about some cryptids. But we were also thinking
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in the future Sometimes there are like shorter cases that we don't end up covering because
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>> interesting topics that are not super long but very fascinating. >> That's the thing and like not always
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enough for a full episode but we figure if we combine forces like we do for spooky episodes we could do it for other
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topics too. >> Yeah. >> And we can bring back the mini morbid theme song because you guys love it so
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much. And [ __ ] old morbid is back in the house. >> Oh yeah. So Here's your mini morbid.
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Except [laughter] it's kind of a full morbid so it's awesome. >> Yeah. It's a full It's a full morbid
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made out of two mini morbids which is all the more morbid. I said to Mikey we should add a little clip and I don't
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know if it should be like times two at the end or like times two. >> [laughter] >> I like that times two.
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>> Times two. Cuz it's like it really hits after that. I think we should add that in. So I get
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I mean we did to this episode so A. You'll find out right now. Yeah. Or you already found out which one we chose.
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>> You [ __ ] [laughter] around and you found You pressed play and you found out.
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>> All right, do you want to go first or do you want me to? >> Oh yay, cool. I like when you go first.
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>> I'll go first. I'm talking about the Beast of Bray Road. Ooh, that sounds spooky. Yeah, he's scary everybody. He's
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real scary. >> Okay. Um hold on cuz I Oh, it's Wisconsin. Okay. >> [laughter and gasps]
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>> I forgot where this was. >> Hold on cuz it's Wisconsin. Okay. [laughter] Is that Wait. I'm sorry. Is that the
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Midwest? >> Yeah, Wiscon- Wisconsin is Midwest. >> Is Illinois also the Midwest? Yeah.
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Yeah. Right? Woah. I think somebody said yes. Um mine is from Illinois so this is
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creatures of the Midwest. >> god, look at that. >> that theme. >> Let me double check if Wisconsin
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>> What if everyone is screaming at us right now, [ __ ] that's not the Midwest.
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I [laughter] was like Wisconsin Wisconsin. >> of geography in first thing in the
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morning. Yes, Wisconsin is. I knew that. >> like Illinois definitely is. >> is. [snorts]
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No, it definitely is. Cuz Drew's dad is from Chicago and that's Midwest. See, I got to stop second-guessing my own
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[ __ ] knowledge. >> I knew about Illinois. I second-guess myself too. >> Yeah. >> All right, spooky [ __ ] brought to you
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from the Midwest. >> yeah. Midwestern spooky [ __ ] [ __ ] All right, so >> [laughter]
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>> Uh so one afternoon in early 1992 which It's the '90s. >> '90s. I wasn't even alive yet.
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In 1992 I was seven. Wait, that's crazy. You're such a [ __ ] for experiencing more of the '90s than
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me. >> Oh, the '90s. >> No, I know. The '90s. >> I'm nostalgic for it. There's got to be a different word for
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that when you're nostalgic for a time that you didn't experience. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. I think it's just
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jealous. >> a word. >> Is there? For that because I think >> Let's just pause this episode eight
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times to look things up. [laughter] People are nostalgic for times that they never lived in like
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Like Like I feel like I'm nostalgic for certain times that periods that I never existed in.
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>> Like the Jack the Ripper time period. >> Yeah, or like the roaring '20s. Oh yeah. Wouldn't have
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Wouldn't have been great for us either of those times. >> for like the aesthetic and the vibe of
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it. What is it called when you're nostalgic for a time you didn't experience? Anemoia.
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Everyone's like, can you just get to the [ __ ] case? Anemoia. Anemoia. I like that.
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>> Anemoia. It's pretty. So you experience anemoia I do. Yeah. For like the I mean
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I was I like experienced some of them but I mean I wasn't cognizant. >> I was going to say that it's cuz it's
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like me with the '80s. >> Yeah. Nine Even like '99 I don't think I really remember.
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>> remember like flashes. >> remember flashes of '80s things when I was like five, you know, like like four
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or five I can remember like certain music videos >> Yeah. >> which like I feel like I can like
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remember like little blips from like mom and papa's house. I also have a very distinct memory I can literally see it
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in my head and I like remember the moment. We were shopping with you and I don't know who else but I fell out of my
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stroller like face first. >> Woah. Yeah. Do you remember that? >> I don't even remember that. I don't
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know, you were there though. Damn. >> You were there. And you were there. Holy [ __ ] I fell out of my stroller. I fell
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[laughter] out of my stroller. >> Explains a lot. I don't even remember that. >> Face first.
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Oh damn. >> Mhm. Yeah, I think it's I think you can remember births cuz I'm like I can
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remember little pieces of >> Your oldest remembers so much of her early childhood and obviously she's
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still little so it's not as far away but it's interesting. She remember I think it's also significant events. Yeah.
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>> Cuz when she was four she was in the hospital. Mhm. But she even remembers things before that too.
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>> Yeah. But she really remembers that time. >> I mean that makes a lot of sense. I mean
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that's traumatic. >> we love Boston Children's Hospital because they were amazing. They saved
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her. >> All her memories are pretty good for that. >> Yeah. Uh but yeah. All right, I don't
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know how to transition back to scary monsters but spooky scary skeletons and monsters from the Midwest.
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>> Uh so one afternoon in early 1992 a time where we feel anemoia. Anemoia. I think
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I just looked it up. Um it was in Elkhorn, Wisconsin. A bus driver named Pat Lester was just chatting with one of
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her passengers Doris Gipson. >> Doris. Doris. >> Remember when I used to call myself
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Auntie Doris? >> Yeah. I love that name. You know, they were talking about strange things that
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she'd seen while she was out driving cuz she's a bus driver. She's probably in Wisconsin. She's probably seen a lot of
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[ __ ] Um including an incident her daughter Lori had had a few years earlier on Bray
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Road. According to Lester her daughter had been out on the isolated road at night
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when she passed what looked like a large dog or a wolf that appeared to have cute
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quote human characteristics. >> No, thank you. Which sends me into orbit already.
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>> I'm Like what do you mean a large dog or wolf? With human characteristics. >> the human characteristics?
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>> Cuz I'm picturing a full human face on like a furry dog and that's freaking me
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out and or like human hands >> No, I was just going to say >> human feet >> I >> [laughter]
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>> I just pictured like a wolf with human arms doing my taxes cuz that's a very human characteristic.
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I just pictured this galumphing wolf with human feet like big oversized human feet.
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>> Like giant feet. >> Yeah. Uh rural Wisco- Wisconsin does have its share of wildlife. They have wolves,
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they have coyotes so >> Lori didn't think too much of it and kept driving. She was like, maybe I just
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like it's dark, you know, like maybe I just saw something weird. >> I just want to say it's [ __ ] that we
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don't have wolves around here. I think wolves are so cool. They are. They're so majestic.
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>> they are. They're so [ __ ] And they're so pretty. And every once in a while I'll tell them that our dogs are related
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to wolves and they're like they are. Like they're like these >> They're a lot more domesticated
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[laughter] but as Blanche >> this big. >> As Blanche runs up the stairs farting on
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every step I'm like she descended from wolves. >> [laughter] >> Dolores Dolores has started farting and
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it is ungodly. [laughter] It is. Dog >> And it makes crazy noises. I'm like, [ __ ]
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>> Yeah. She just Blanche every time she runs up the stairs she just farts her way all the way up.
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>> How embarrassing. >> [laughter] >> She's not She feels not a drop of shame. Good for her.
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But every time I'm like she descended by from wolves. >> I want to come back as Blanche
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[laughter] in my next life. The dog. >> are like, I don't think she did. Somebody else did. So to Pat Lester the
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story seemed like one of those, you know, local urban legends or maybe just a misidentification of a pretty normal
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animal. >> She's like, I don't know, you were tired. >> Yeah, so she was like, I don't know, she
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didn't think anything shocking of it. But when she caught a glimpse of Doris Gipson's face
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she was suddenly like, you know what? I think something happened here because Doris was genuinely terrified while she
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was talking about it. >> Now according to Doris she had encountered a similarly strange
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animal to Lori. Yeah. To the dog. >> So Yeah, so she and she encountered it on Bray Road the I think the year
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before. It was Halloween night. Halloween night. 1991. Oh god, the aesthetic must have been
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going crazy. >> one thing I do remember very well in the '90s is '90s Halloween parties at
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school. Remember that a lot. I remember pictures of '90s Halloween parties. Oh, so good.
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So this was Halloween night 1991 and Doris who was a senior in high school at the time was driving home on Bray Road
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when she felt like she hit something on the street. >> She said it was kind of smoggy out and
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my front tire got lifted off the ground. So she was afraid that she hit an animal. She was like, [ __ ] So she drove
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about 50 yards and then pulled over and she came to a spot that was kind of like
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out of the way. So she checks the front of her car. She sees if anything happened, you know, to
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be stuck under the car. She didn't see anything, but she walked around to the back of the car, again saw nothing. And
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she was about to get back into the car cuz she didn't see anything around, either.
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But then she looks down the road a little ways and she saw the thing. Later she talked about it and she said,
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"Here comes this thing. Here comes this thing." >> Uh-uh. And it's just running up at me.
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>> Oh, [ __ ] You get in your car and you drive out of there, girl. So, she couldn't She was kind of a distance
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away, so she couldn't tell what kind of animal it was. She said it was large and
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hairy like a German Shepherd. >> Oh, [ __ ] >> But much larger and it didn't move like
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a dog. She said it moved more like a man crouched down on all fours. >> Ew. Not a man. [laughter]
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And that's why I can't stop picturing human feet glumping down the street. >> Yeah. But I also just see him in a
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flannel. Yeah. Right. Oh, wow. Okay. He's got a tattered flannel in my mind. >> So, he's like the straight-up werewolf
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character. >> yeah. Um But big. >> But she said, "I could hear its feet on the asphalt."
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>> Ew. >> As it's running at her. Now, she's terrified, obviously, and she turns and runs back to her car. She gets
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inside, closes the door just as this thing reaches her and dragged what sounded like claws
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along the outside of her vehicle. No. Yeah. She told local journalist Linda Godfrey, "I just put my foot on the gas
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pedal and started going." She said she didn't get a good look at the thing because she was so terrified and it was
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dark, but she believed it had been chasing after her on two legs. Ew. No. No. No.
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>> No. >> Because she said as she like when she looked back, she could see its huge
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chest heaving as it ran. >> What the [ __ ] Yeah. I would It's like terrifying. >> No, that's so scary. I would never
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recover from this. >> No. I'd be This would be the hot topic in therapy >> every time I went for the rest of my
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life. I'd like to talk about the monster I saw. >> Again, I would love to talk about that
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humanoid monster that chased me down the street. >> you ever go to sleep again? >> I That's the thing.
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>> Knowing that that's like lurking in your in your whereabouts. >> You know it's lurking around and you
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know it's seen you. I'd be like, "I don't know how intelligent this thing is. Maybe it knows where I live and it's
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going to break into my house and a real monster is going to [ __ ] wake me up in the middle of the night."
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>> And if there's more than one of them, it perhaps has a family. Yeah. It It has a
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whole crew. Not a squad. It has a whole It has a crew like Jacob in Twilight and
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when they see you, they're going to say, "Where the hell you've been, Loca?" Bella, where the hell you've been, Loca?
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I just watched that again. I'm going to say for the record that he's really hot in that movie.
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>> Oh, you All of a sudden you're taking >> [laughter] >> I was like, "Team Edward as a gal." And
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now as a woman, I'm team Jacob. As a woman? Is that natural? >> [laughter] >> Is that natural? Although, you know
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what? I'm actually team zero None of them because Jacob comes on way too strong. He kisses Bella with no I know
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he does. no consent. Yeah. So, not team Jacob. >> Not team Jacob. >> But he is really hot.
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>> I was team Edward. I guess. >> team Edward. >> a pale man. >> I do. I love a pale man. I love a
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vampire. >> But he just also like We can't get into this. >> Yeah. Let's have a Can we do the bonus
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episode about Twilight in November? Would you guys kill us? >> Guys, would you let us do that?
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>> Please let us do I want [laughter] so badly to unpack the movie Twilight from an adult perspective.
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>> love to unpack the movie Twilight from an adult perspective because I feel Please.
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>> so many feelings about it. >> Please. Comment on this post and tell us if you are down for us to do that as the
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bonus episode for November because that would be really fun. And just know >> bonus episode, not a regular episode, a
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bonus episode. >> And just know that if you say that you don't want that, you're breaking our
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hearts. >> our hearts. Okay. All right. So, that's your task. God, I so hope you guys say yes. All right. So,
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when Doris gets home a little bit later, she's She's been through it. And like we
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were saying, now she's got to go home. She looked at the side of the car and there were huge claw marks on the back
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side of the car near the trunk. >> Oh, so not only did she have a [ __ ] terrifying experience, now she has to go
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get work done on her car, which is also a terrifying experience. >> sucks. Now, according to Linda Godfrey,
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the journalist, she saw the claw the marks first hand. And she said it appeared as though something with huge
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claws had dragged both sets along the rear of the car. >> This [ __ ] keyed her car.
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>> Yeah. With its claws. Linda Godfrey had been referred to Doris by a friend who occasionally did some
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freelance writing for the local Elkhorn newspaper. Linda had been looking for an
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interesting local story to publish in the paper, and when she heard Doris's story about the encounter on Bray Road,
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she was like, "Whoa, this is exactly what I want." >> Yeah. Um And her instincts were right.
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Doris was just one of several locals who'd seen something strange out on Bray Road, and their stories would eventually
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put the little town of Elkhorn on the map when it came to supernatural encounters.
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Now, after interviewing Doris, Godfrey figured the young woman, you know, couldn't have been the only person in
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town who had seen this [ __ ] crazy, strange humanoid wolf thing. So, she went over to town hall and tracked down
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the animal welfare officer, John Frederickson. It turned out that Frederickson, who had
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been working in the town since the mid-1980s, so he's >> He's been around. >> I picture this in my head when I was
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reading this story cuz I feel this like this like hard-hitting journalist, Linda
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Godfrey, >> Of course. >> hears this crazy story from Doris and and then is just like, "I'm going to go
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down to the local animal rescue officer." This is in the '90s, so I'm just picturing it all '90s coded with
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like a '90s lens. And then she finds John Frederickson who's like, "Well, I've been this town's
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animal rescue officer since the 1980s." And you're just like, "Yeah, you have." >> Yeah.
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>> You have stories. >> He is authority. You have stories. You have tales. Tell me them.
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>> What does he look like in your mind? Oh, I see him. He's older. Yeah. Mustache.
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>> young. I see Yeah. He's got a mustache. He's chewing on a on a toothpick. Okay.
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He's just always chewing on a toothpick. >> All right. Um He's got a hat. Yeah, definitely. I'm trying to picture what
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kind of hat, though. I feel like it could be similar to like a newsboy cap or like a skully cap.
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>> All right. >> Yep. I love a skully cap. Yeah. I think he's He's one of those like He's got a
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vibe. >> He's You kind of just described Dave, by the way. Did I did? >> You did. So, that's who I pictured.
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>> Dave also has a skully cap and a toothpick up most times. >> It's true. I did [laughter] just picture
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Dave. Does Dave just doesn't have a mustache, right? >> Yeah, I just pictured an older Dave.
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>> All right. I mean, I see it. >> Older Dave is that grizzled animal rescue officer who's going to tell you
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his story. >> Let's go. [laughter] Except Dave would be like, "You're That's not real."
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That's so unreal. Get the [ __ ] out [laughter] of here. >> Leave me alone." We love you, Dave.
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>> [laughter] >> I love that I pictured Dave. So, the good thing is, and this would be
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a Dave thing to do, he had been keeping a file on what he informally referred to
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as the Elkhorn werewolf. Oh. >> Dave would keep the file and he would have all the receipts. Among other
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things, the file contained copies of reports of a large unidentified animal that people were spotting in the area of
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Bray Road over the years. Local paranormal investigator Jay Bachochin summarized the all these reports
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basically as containing a description of a quote biped, a walking humanoid dog with the muzzle, the ears, about 7 to 8
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feet tall, hands hairy. I don't want to say like a human, but humanoid hands with claws, deep-set fangs, enormous
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eyes, just ferocious-looking. No, thank you. Like, what the [ __ ] I don't like I don't like that it can walk
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on two feet. Humanoid hands with claws? No. >> So, he does have like human-y hands,
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just with long nails. Ew. Which is so much worse. Well, I don't like how his eyes are so big, either. And he's got
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big I I don't like that at all. I hate it all. I don't like it. And he walks at He's like bi- He's a biped.
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That's fun to say. Biped. Bipedal, I think it is Yeah, I think you're right. Well, the reports
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themselves were pretty [ __ ] interesting. For Linda's purposes, more interesting were that some people had
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actually signed their names to the reports. >> Oh, [ __ ] >> just anonymous. That's kind of crazy.
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>> a report from Laura Andrizzi, a local bar manager in Elkhorn. According to Lori, she was driving home on Bray Road
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one night in December 1991 after closing the bar, and she spotted something strange in the ditch beside the road.
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>> That's always when you see the craziest [ __ ] On your way home from a [ __ ]
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restaurant or a bar that you work at. >> When you see something strange in the ditch next to Bray Road.
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>> Keep driving. >> Keep driving. It's not for you. Now, Lori slowed down as she neared whatever it was by the
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side of the road. It's back was to her, but she could tell that it was kneeling in the ditch, and she could see that it
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had pointy ears like a large dog. >> So, you keep driving, girl. You get out of there. This would not
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have been unusual in and of itself, I guess. Like just seeing like a dog in a ditch, you know, like hanging out like a
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on Oh, so you know what road? That I would stop for a dog in a ditch. But Lori said she was immediately put off by
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the fact that it was literally kneeling. Like she was like Immediately I'm like,
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"Oh, dog." And then I saw it kneeling. >> Kneeling, yeah. Like So, Godfrey later
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recalled, she said it was kneeling in a way she didn't think a canine could kneel. Like a human. Yeah.
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>> So, you see a dog in a ditch and your immediate thought is like, "Oh, a dog. I
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should stop and make sure it's okay." And then you look and it's kneeling like a human.
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>> So, you hit the gas. >> [ __ ] that. So, when she pulled ahead of it, Lori looked into the rearview mirror
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and was stunned by what she saw. The animal, she was at least sure that it was an animal at this point, was
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crouched down and appeared to be eating something. >> No. She said, "Its elbows were up and
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its claws were facing out, so I knew it had claws. I remember the long claws." >> What? From what she could see, it looked
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as though it was eating some sort of roadkill. Ew. And when it finally noticed the car slowly pulling up beside
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it, it turned its head towards Lori. And the lights from the car reflected in its eyes, but it didn't run away like
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most animals would. It just stared at her. And she said, "It struck her as very unusual that like an animal would run
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away." >> Yeah, it'd be stunned. And like or be stunned. It literally looked at her and
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then continued eating. Dislike. Later in her interview with Linda Godfrey, Lori described the beast as {quote} dark
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brownish gray in color, somewhere around 5 ft 7 in in height, and around 150 lb.
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>> What a menace. And most unnerving at all, she said it looked almost human in shape except for the head which looked
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very much like that of a large dog or a wolf. She said, "To this day I believe it was
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satanic. It was just my feeling. I don't really believe in werewolves per se, but
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I believe something could be well, conjured up." That was not of God. My favorite thing about that
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>> that satanic? >> is I don't believe in werewolves, but I do believe that's satanic.
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>> Yeah, like it's just like, "Girl, you believe that's satanic?" >> but you do believe in a demon in the
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ground. Let's not write off men that can turn into wolves on a full moon and and say that this is satanic.
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>> That's the thing. How do you make that distinction? >> satanic, we got we got to open up the
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door to werewolves as well. >> bunch of other [ __ ] >> Possibly being real. Like let's not
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write them off so fast, okay? >> I was really rooting for you, girl. I was, [laughter] too.
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>> [gasps] >> A few days later, Lori went to the library and started combing some books
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on Wisconsin wildlife cuz this was bothering her. I mean, yeah. It would bother me, too. She was hoping to find
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something that resembled what she'd seen on the side of the road so she could just like put it aside.
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She came up empty. And she So she visited John Fredrickson's office and reported the sighting. Hoping she'd be
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able to explain something that he could just look at her and be like, "Oh, that's this."
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>> Right. And Fredrickson said later, "Not too long into the conversation, some books that were on the shelf just came
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flying down." There wasn't really any cause for the books to go flying down, so that was the
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end of that conversation. What? What? I'm like, "So, is the is the essence of the werewolf in the room
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[laughter] with us just [ __ ] with you now? Like The essence of the werewolf >> Is he everywhere?
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>> He's everywhere. He's everything. >> [laughter] >> He He's a He's infinite. everywhere to me. He is. Honestly, he's
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everywhere to me. >> [laughter] >> So the deeper that Linda Godfrey dug into Fredrickson's werewolf file, she
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continued to discover reports of this unusual and really scary creature out on Bray Road. All giving more or less the
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same description. Not long after she published her first article about it, Linda received a call from a woman in
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Palmyra, a tiny village of about 1,500 residents, 15 kind of 15 or so miles from Elkhorn.
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The woman was calling to report something her son, 17-year-old Tom Brickta, had experienced in the summer
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of 1992, not long after Lori's encounter on Bray Road. >> to go to there. According to Tom, he and
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a friend, Chris Maxwell, were on their way home from a wedding reception one night in August and they passed through
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Elkhorn. There was an incredibly like super dense layer of fog that night. So Tom was
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driving slowly when they felt a thud like they'd hit something that they didn't see in the road.
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>> It's giving I know what you did last Saturday. >> It is. So Brickta's mother said, "He
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thought he hit a mailbox, so he backed up." That's when he realized it was no mailbox.
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So Tom opened the driver's side window and immediately noticed {quote} a real skunky smelling odor.
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Oh. >> stuck his head out the window expecting to see a a dead or injured skunk on the
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road, but instead he saw something he still can't really explain. His mother told Linda Godfrey, he
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described it to me as big and hairy and that it was walking and {quote} reaching
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out in his direction. What? Now I'm just picturing him like with arms outstretched.
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>> to me. >> With arms wide open. >> [laughter] >> That's what I picture now. And now I'm
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like, "Maybe maybe he's not satanic. Maybe he's Creed." >> [laughter] >> Spot the difference.
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>> I mean Spot the difference. >> [laughter] >> entirely possible. That he's Creed.
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The entire band. Right here. That's why he's so big. >> That's why he's so big. He's so many
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people. >> He's a whole band. He has arms wide open. >> [laughter] >> That's what he was doing.
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>> I'm screaming. So according to Tom's mother I just screamed that he's Creed. >> [laughter]
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>> So according to Tom's mother the family had a cabin in the woods. According to
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Tom's mother, he was not Creed. He was [laughter] not Creed. >> [music] >> Uh the family had a cabin in the woods
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and spent a lot of time hunting and camping. So Tom definitely would have recognized any of the usual wildlife
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like bears, wolves, coyotes, anything like that. >> Yeah. In his videotaped interview or Creed
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>> [laughter] >> he wouldn't recognize them. So he never know. >> In his videotaped
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interview with a reporter, Tom described it. He said, "I saw a faint shadow of actually how big it was. It was large.
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Its lower chest or belly was at the top of my car." Oh, [ __ ] >> It was whitish gray with black streaks
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in it and it was hairy. I didn't get any facial details, but the lower part of the body I can describe to a T. It had
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large legs. The feet were a little fuzzy. I can't describe them as well as I can the arm that was reaching for my
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car. With arms wide open. The fingers were either pointed or had quite the nails on them. The arm I
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like that. >> quite the nails. >> Quite the nails on them. >> I really need somebody to describe my
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nails as quite the nails. >> have quite the nails on them. Halle, give me quite the nails.
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>> that he wasn't like That's a good way to describe it that he's like It They weren't claws. They just had quite the
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nails on them. The arm was long and kind of odd-shaped. Hmm. Now, this The sight of this thing
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in the road obviously terrified Tom and he stomped on the gas trying to get as far away as possible. Yeah. A few miles
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down the road near Highway 106, the boys spotted a state trooper and pulled over
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to report what they had just seen. So they reported it right away. Uh when he got home that night, Tom got out and
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inspected his car and he noticed that the animal had scratched a small piece of the pinstriping from the exterior.
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>> Rude. >> After going inside and telling his mom what happened, they called the sheriff's
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office to report the incident a second time. Now later, she was working on another
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article, Linda Godfrey confirmed the report with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department who verified that
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Tom did report that sighting that night. She also found other reports of an unusual animal sighting that same night
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>> Oh, [ __ ] >> including one report that came in about a half hour after Tom's report.
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>> Wow. Yeah, which is strange. This This feels legit. >> Yeah, like the sheriff's deputy told
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Linda Godfrey someone called in and said they saw a large object in the ditch at
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106 and north and thought it looked like a bear. Oh. A squad was dispatched and saw nothing. The two incidents were 7 mi
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apart. Wow. Now, like Doris Gipson and Lori and Drizzy, Tom couldn't help but notice how human-like this thing looked.
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That's what really stood out to him. It stood on two legs. It walked towards him
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like a person. Its head and upper shoulder um shoulders were level with the corn stalks growing in the field
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beside the road, which >> description is the scariest thing I've ever heard in my life. Do not ever be
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level with a corn stalk in my presence. >> do it. Keep that away from me. >> Also, just if you're next to a corn
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stalk Get out of the way. >> you're dangerous. >> You're nefarious. Look, I As soon as
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corn stalks come into play Yeah. I'm terrified. It's very he who walks with the He walks behind the rows, you know?
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[snorts] Like that's I don't need it. >> Being level with a corn stalk is that's
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satanic. >> Being in the vicinity of a corn stalk >> [laughter] >> is satanic. is pretty Creed-like, maybe.
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>> Yeah, so. So Which is also synonymous with Chill out over there. >> satanic. >> [laughter]
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>> So Um so Tom said, "It hadn't noticed us." Then it looked at the car and looked at
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me and gave Are you ready? >> Two thumbs up. Are you ready? Just kidding. You Honestly, not far off. It
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gave this little snicker like it was challenging us. Oh, so he's like a frat bro.
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>> And it says, "We were scared. It was huge." What? So he literally was >> He snickered?
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>> just standing next to the corn. Level with the corn and then >> [laughter] >> Like that? He looked over and did Let's
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see Let's hear yours. >> that little like I see I picture him as being a little more dingus-y. Like he's
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like, Oh, [laughter] wow. Wow. I picture him more hehehe. Oh, I don't like that one. That's almost
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scarier. It kind of is cuz you don't want a dingus No. chasing you, you know? A dingus monster. Honey, I've had a
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dingus [laughter] chasing me a couple of times. A dingus monster, in fact. >> Honey, I've had a dingus chasing me.
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Honey, the lambs. Honey, [laughter] the lambs. Honey, the dinguses. Honey, the lambs. I brought a couple
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home. You met them. Oh, yeah, it's true. Dinguses forever. Uh >> [laughter] >> Not forever. But yeah, he said uh he
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said, "Hehehe." And then he he was like challenging them. No. >> But he was scared, he didn't like it. So
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like a duel? Uh maybe. Maybe. To a sing-off. Oh. He said, You guys know Creed? >> Yeah.
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>> [laughter] >> You guys like that band? Cuz I am that band. I'll win this [laughter] circle.
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Now, after publishing the two-page spread about what what she was by then calling the Beast of Bray Road, which is
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a great name, It is. in the fall of 1992, Linda Godfrey had become a kind of like, you know, representative of this
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creature at this point. >> I mean, yeah, she's done the work. She's doing a lot of PR for him.
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>> [laughter] >> She's his agent now. She is. Yeah, she signed him to a talent agency. No, for a
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period of several weeks, she received countless new reports about the beast, some
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relatively recent from like, you know, the previous few years, while others were much older. When she started out in
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her investigation, she assumed the beast sightings were a new phenomenon because
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a lot of times these things will come up and you're like, yeah, it's totally been
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in the last few years people just made this up. >> Right. But as the stories poured in, she
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started to wonder whether Wisconsin had been home to some strange species that had somehow managed to avoid detection
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until now. I mean, I could see why she would think that. >> of it. The article brought more accounts and
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countless sightseers and cryptid hunters to the area in search of this Beast of Bray Road.
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>> Which that's not good. But by far the most interesting among them was the editor of a paper from a nearby town
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who'd grown up in the area. And after reading Linda's article, remembered a story his father had told him when he
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was young. According to Linda, the man's father had worked as a night watchman for St.
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Coletta School for Exceptional Children. Okay. Um this was in nearby Jefferson. Uh on the school grounds, there were
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several, quote, ancient burial grounds What? >> Yeah. They were trying to preserve and
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the watchman had taken to include them in their rounds. So they were trying to keep them like
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at bay. No one >> [laughter] >> They were trying to preserve them. So they were trying to keep them from like
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vandals, anything happening to them, like >> They're keeping the vandals at bay. They
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were keeping the vandals at bay, keeping the ancient burial grounds safe. And at
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bay. >> Apparently. And at bay, apparently. Um so the night watchman are using their
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rounds to like go in there, make sure no one's [ __ ] around. >> Yeah. One night in 1936, the editor's
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father, Mark Shackelman, was doing his rounds when he came to the burial grounds and saw a large animal
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frantically digging into the mound, like it was trying to unearth something. >> No, thank you. Unsure of what he was
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looking at and not wanting to endanger himself, he quickly and quietly backed away. Uh the next night, Mark was again
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on his rounds when he came upon the beast a second time at the same spot. And this time, though, he shined the
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beam of his flashlight at the animal, and to his horror, instead of running away, the creature rose onto its hind
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legs and stood up tall. And he estimated it to be more than 6 ft tall. Level with the cornstalk.
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>> the corn. The corn. >> the corn. Level with the corn. >> honey, the corn. Um [laughter]
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so years later, How am I going to follow this? Uh years later, when he recounted the story to
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his son Mark Mark Shackelman described the animal as being covered with dark or black hair and having a terrible odor
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like long dead meat. >> A stank ass? >> ass. And remember, Tom, when he hit something in the road, he smelled like a
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skunk like odor odor? So like a bad smell, like a an odor, you know. I like the smell of skunks.
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>> That's so weird to me. I won't even get into that because I don't understand it.
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>> It's a thing. >> No. Other people like it. >> I'm sure it is. We're going to have a
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whole No, don't use the comment [laughter] Wait a second. No, the comments are for Twilight.
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>> us if we can do Twilight for November's [laughter] bonus episode. Do not support Ash's. I
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know I'm going to hear a million PEOPLE LIKE >> ASH. ASH, I'm on your side. I know
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everyone's on Ash's side here. It's okay. I [laughter] don't like the smell of skunks.
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But you have to tell us in the comment section about the Twilight bonus episode. Do not.
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>> Guys, that was Elena saying it. Here's me. It's Ash. I'm not reading It's Ash.
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>> [laughter] >> I'm not reading from a script. She didn't write this for me. The comments
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are indeed for Twilight. >> Yeah, we need to hear >> that I have supporters out there who
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also like the smell of skunks, so don't even feel the need to reassure You can PM me. Yeah, there you go. PM
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you? Oh, private message. I think I aged myself there. Thank you [laughter] for pointing it out.
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I I think that's like what old people on Facebook say. I said, you can evening you? I don't understand.
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>> [laughter] >> I I probably aged myself >> evening me. I don't know what that means, but don't talk to me in the
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evening. >> Um but yeah. >> Anyway, Twilight, Twilight, Twilight. >> Stanky. So this thing stinks is what we
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we know now. Um more surprising than its size was what side Nope, size. Um more surprising
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than how big it was was that the what the beast did next. Standing before him, it looked him right in the eyes
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Confident. >> and made a sound the watchman later described as, quote, sounding like a
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proto-human language. What? It was though the creature was speaking to him, but it wasn't speaking
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like English like we know it today. What? >> From where he stood, the only word Mark
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could make out was what sounded like Gadara. What does that mean? That's not a word. So we will So there
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is something to that. Gadara? >> Yes. >> Maybe he really wants some Godiva. Godiva. No, it they think it's something
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else. So as they stood facing each other, Mark began to pray, assuming that this thing was going to attack him.
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Frankly, I might do the same. >> Honestly, he was like, I think I'm going to die right now.
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>> ever a time to pray, it's when a werewolf yells Godiva. And you're [laughter] literally
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Now, for what when Creed in the form of a beast in front of you yells Godiva, pray. By the cornstalks. By the
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cornstalks. He's on an ancient burial ground at this Yeah, he's on an ancient burial
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[laughter] ground more [ __ ] up. So fortunately, after uttering those strange words at him, it just turned and
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walked off into the woods. Oh, I would feel cursed in that moment. >> another thing. So remember how Tom said
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this thing like kind of snickered at him, like made like made a fool of him? Shackelman said, and this was way before
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this that account, he said, it looked like it sneered at me. I never saw that thing again or anything
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like it. >> What's the difference between a sneer and a snicker? So a snicker is like a
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And a sneer is kind of like a like >> ass face. >> Like just gives you like a hmm, like I'm
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like I'm challenging you. Like yeah, like that little like uh. Like he did that like a uh? I To me, a sneer has
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that like uh feel about it. But not necessarily the emotion. >> do that like, come at me, bro. But it's
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like that If someone's sneering at me, I think they they're like They want to fight. You want some.
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Yeah. They're like, come get some. >> Yeah. Don't start none, won't be none. >> [laughter]
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>> Wow. Yeah. What the [ __ ] >> Or like if we're bringing it into today's world, [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] And
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they ain't saying nothing. That's what this guy was saying to him. >> What if he said, [ __ ] ain't [ __ ]
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What if they just did that trend? And And then he just turned around and walked into the woods and never And he
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kept saying, [clears throat] uh-huh, no, no. What the [ __ ] is going to tell me
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nothing? He does >> He does. So whatever the beast had said, if it had said anything at all, it made no sense
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to Mark Shackelman, obviously. He was like, I don't know what he was saying to me, but
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>> be the most horrifying part. >> only years later after he told the story to his son that it was pointed out to
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him that the word that the beast spoke sounded very similar to Gadara, the town in the Bible where Jesus casts out a
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legion of demons from a possessed man. So I do think this is Creed. >> [laughter]
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>> I think it is. >> I think it's Creed, so >> that's The only song I know of them is
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the Arms Wide Open song, but >> Yeah, I mean, Creed, let us know Creed, if you're Creed, are you also a wolf?
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>> [snorts] >> Uh so the stories of the Beast of Bray Road that Linda had collected not only
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established a timeline dating back further than anyone had expected, um but it also created a pretty unique
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legendary cryptid that brought a lot of legend trippers and paranormal enthusiasts from all over the country to
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this area. Um much to the displeasure of some local residents. Yeah. Uh but one thing
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Linda's collection of stories couldn't do was provide any indication as to where the animal had come from in the
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first place. >> Maybe it's just of the land. Honey, the land. >> Honey, the land. So to some, like Linda,
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it had probably always been there. >> That's what I'm saying. >> on the land, uh hiding among, you know,
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the Wisconsin forests. It's dense. >> Um but others predicted it was something evil in nature. Throughout the 1980s,
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there were rumors of satanic cults active in in the area, and many, like Lorien Dreesy, who we talked about
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earlier, couldn't help but think one of those cults may have brought the Beast of Bray Road into being.
00:39:03
>> Like conjured it? >> Like conjured this demon. If you have the ability to do that, you need to you
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need to get to work on some other things as well. >> And also, I'm sorry. If you believe that
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that can happen, you cannot discount werewolves being a thing. I just can't. >> I will stand on business with that.
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>> 10 toes down. John Fredrickson, who, you know, was the town animal rescue officer
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for some time, is willing to entertain such such theories. So he'll entertain any
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theories, really, when it comes to this. >> Okay. He said, I wouldn't discount some
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type of occult activity. Yeah. >> Which I mean, he did he was the one who said like the the books came off the
00:39:38
shelves when they were talking about it. Um but he said, if by chance somebody invoked some kind of occult entities,
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like maybe that's a thing. So, he believes that like maybe the occult is involved here. Maybe.
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>> was brought into being. Or maybe there's just ancient [ __ ] in the world that we
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can't explain. >> think there's just ancient [ __ ] that we that have realized that we all kind of
00:39:58
suck and that it should stay away from us. Probably. >> And they do. Yeah. And then every once
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in a while they don't cuz they're like cuz I think he truly has the the mentality of [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] And
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they ain't saying nothing. Well, and he also like he's not really >> [ __ ] can't tell me nothing. Like
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that's why that's why he's like I'm not worried about you anyway. >> he's not really seeking anybody out.
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They're stumbling across him. >> Exactly. He's like I'm just trying to eat roadkill.
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>> He's just out late night, you know. >> He is. He's just out late night eating
00:40:23
roadkill. It's just like that sometimes, you know. He's just having his version of a faux faux faux. It's also nice that
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he's eating roadkill and he's not Nobody saw him actively killing anything. I I have this one story thing about him like
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this this one set of research about him and nowhere in it do I see him tearing apart animals that are alive. So, he's a
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pacifist. >> Is he trying to maybe kill humans? I Yeah. I think he's just trying to [ __ ] with them, really.
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>> to be like get the [ __ ] back in your car. Maybe he's trying to teach us all
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some survival skills and he's like listen, none of you have a survival instinct. You're all getting out of your
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car looking at me, a strange ass [ __ ] who's who's on par with the corn. >> Who's bamfing through the night.
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>> land. And it's like you're all getting out of your bamfing through the night.
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And it's like I'm trying to chase your ass back in your car so you know never to get out of your car again.
00:41:18
>> what's up. >> That if you are driving late night, do not get out of your car.
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>> And maybe that's why he actually talked to the one guy who was the night watchman.
00:41:26
>> Yeah, cuz he was like I know you don't have a car so Godiva, okay? >> And I think he also was like last night
00:41:31
you did the right thing and you just ignored me while I was I was on the mound. >> you're shining light upon me.
00:41:39
>> on me that doesn't feel very instinctish. So, I'm going to teach you. >> Go on. Get.
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>> I'm going to teach you Godiva. And then he just >> And sneer. >> And then he walked back into the woods
00:41:48
saying [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] >> [laughter] >> And they ain't saying nothing. So, that I think that is the beast of
00:41:54
Bray Road is just out here trying to teach us all some survival instincts. >> I'm kind of obsessed with him. Yeah, I
00:42:00
think he's pretty great. >> I think he's real. I think there's >> I kind of love his attitude.
00:42:04
>> I do, too. I think there's the sneer, the snicker. I also feel like there's not just one of him. I feel like like
00:42:10
he's got a squad. >> I think there's There was a couple different color descriptions.
00:42:15
>> Yeah, there was some darker ones, some lighter ones. So, I think Yeah. >> I think we have a whole crew here and I
00:42:21
think they all have [ __ ] attitudes. Also, maybe it is a Twilight thing and they're just like people in the day and
00:42:27
then they shapeshift like Oz even from >> Oh, yeah. >> from Buffy, you know? And then they have
00:42:33
sick ass tattoos like Jacob and his squad. Hell, yeah. >> Let's hope that they don't imprint on
00:42:37
children. Don't do that. That's why we need to talk about Twilight, okay? Cuz we will talk about the future ones if
00:42:42
you let us if you let us. >> If you let us, this could be a beautiful gift. >> be a beautiful thing, but we we want to
00:42:48
make you guys happy with these bonus episodes. So, I really It's in your hands. Give us the opportunity to
00:42:54
provide you Twilight happiness because I can provide. We can provide, okay? >> We can provide. No, honestly, if you
00:43:01
guys don't let us do Twilight, I might cry. So. Sorry, I took a bite of a donut.
00:43:06
>> [laughter] >> This [ __ ] just has a chip on her cheek full of a Boston cream.
00:43:13
I really do. >> That's so Boston of you. >> I'm back. Sorry. I took a bite right as
00:43:17
we hit record and I was like whoa. Donut break. Donut break. Um, yeah, we got to
00:43:22
do Twilight. >> We got to. Please. >> It's going to be great. >> Please. [screaming]
00:43:26
>> You want more of this more of this commentary? Let's go. >> Let's go. Open it up. All right, honey.
00:43:32
Well, it's my turn and we're still in the Midwest. Have no fear. We haven't traveled out of there. Good. We're going
00:43:37
to be talking about the Enfield monster. >> Ooh. Not to be confused with the Enfield
00:43:41
Poltergeist. >> I was confusing them. So, thank you for telling me. >> I'm glad that I could be of assistance
00:43:48
in the Enfield place. So, on the evening of April 25th, 1973, 50-year-old Henry McDaniel and his wife
00:43:57
Lil, they were just coming home from like a school function, some [ __ ] for the kids.
00:44:01
>> Henry and Lil. They got home a little past 9:00 and they found their two kids
00:44:04
in a state of absolute panic. >> That's not where you want to find your kids. >> No, they were freaking out. And
00:44:10
according to them, they obviously stayed home alone after their parents went out.
00:44:14
Not long before their parents got back, they started hearing loud scratching noises at the
00:44:19
Yeah, I don't want any of this when I come home. And when whatever was out the door wasn't able to get through, they
00:44:25
said it moved on to the windows and that they also heard claws scraping across the metal of the air conditioner outside
00:44:32
or like the condenser. It's time to burn the house down. Get rid of the entire Well, no. Where else are you going to
00:44:38
seek refuge? I mean, I don't know. This doesn't feel like a refuge though. I know, but don't be don't be burning down
00:44:44
your house when the cryptids are outside. >> never really a good solution to anything, burning down your house, but
00:44:48
here we are. You heard it here first. Don't burn down your house. >> [laughter] >> So, neither of the kids managed to
00:44:53
really get a good look at the animal. The best they could say was that it was just like a weird creature. So,
00:44:58
obviously the parents were like okay, we won't leave you home again. >> The amount of times my kids have been
00:45:03
like did you see that weird creature in the woods? And I'm just like it's probably a deer. You know what's
00:45:08
actually wild that literally happened this morning? I believe it. >> One of your kids, first of all, saw like
00:45:13
something crazy in the forest and then told me that there was a pelican on my head this morning.
00:45:17
>> Yeah, she did. Fun fact, no no pelican on my >> head. Yeah, can confirm there was not a
00:45:21
pelican on her head. Um, she looked in the tree though and she was like I saw something big and brown and furry in the
00:45:27
tree. That's why it's moving so much. And I was like that's a squirrel. It's just a squirrel, babe. Yeah. Yeah, it's
00:45:32
brown squirrel. So, I'm sure these parents were like that's just a squirrel, babe. And that's the thing.
00:45:36
And Enfield is like it's a rural place, but it's not so remote that they would have to contend with aggressive or
00:45:41
confrontational wildlife. So, they were like okay, I don't know about that. >> like it's probably fine. But then not
00:45:48
long after the kids like went through the whole story, the entire family started to hear the sounds again. So,
00:45:53
the parents were like [ __ ] should have believed you. God damn. Henry later told
00:45:56
a reporter this thing was trying to get into the house. >> Oh, I hate that. So, now concerned that
00:46:01
whatever it was, you know, might succeed this time cuz obviously it's it's trying
00:46:05
and trying again. Henry ran to his bedroom and he grabbed a flashlight and a .22 caliber pistol that he kept on his
00:46:11
bedside table. By the time he came back, the beast moved from the front of the house, moved
00:46:17
on. So, he slowly opened the door, aimed the flashlight out there. And after a quick sweep of the yard, the
00:46:23
flashlight's beam landed on the thing that had been clawing at the door. And now it was standing between two flower
00:46:30
bushes at the edge of the yard. Later, Henry said it had three legs on it, a short body, two little short arms, and
00:46:38
two pink eyes as big as flashlights. That sounds horrifying and hilarious all at the same time.
00:46:45
>> adorable. >> legs and two little stubby arms like a T-Rex. >> arms. Literally T-Rex arms.
00:46:52
And it's just standing between two flower bushes. >> it sounds like? It sounds like a child's
00:46:56
drawing. Uh, it comes to life. Cuz it also has pink eyes. >> Yeah. It sounds like a kid's drawing.
00:47:03
>> [laughter] >> Mikey just asked me if I farted in its eye and the answer is no because this
00:47:06
was 50 years ago, Mikey. Did you fart in its eye? Oh. [laughter] Fired. Boom. Roasted. Boom. Fired. I'm just
00:47:19
kidding. Don't kill me. You guys all love Mikey. >> [laughter] >> I get it, Elena.
00:47:24
Okay. So, from where Henry was standing, the shape of the body he said, like similar
00:47:30
to yours, almost looked human. He said it was around >> I thought you were saying similar to my
00:47:34
body. Similar to your body ody ody. >> Almost looked human. [laughter] I was like
00:47:38
wow, your shots are just springing out in this podcast studio. >> [laughter] >> I thought you were like similar to
00:47:46
yours, it looked almost human. I was LIKE WHOA. WOW. I REALIZED [laughter] I HAD SOME KIDS, BUT
00:48:02
>> [laughter] >> BUT DAMN. >> [laughter] >> I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT TO YOU. [laughter]
00:48:12
What have I ever said something that diabolical to you? That's why I was like whoa.
00:48:18
>> [laughter] >> Damn. Similar to your cryptid. My dear. Similar to >> [laughter]
00:48:24
>> the beast of Bray Road. Yes, the beast. Let's Not to the beast OF THIS PODCAST.
00:48:30
>> [laughter] [gasps] >> ARGUABLY, I'M THE BEAST OF THE PODCAST. >> [laughter] >> ACTUALLY, ARGUABLY, you are.
00:48:38
I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I'll take it. >> [laughter] >> I'll own it. No, similar to your
00:48:45
cryptid. It looked human. It was a little shorter than yours. [laughter] Your cryptid for you.
00:48:53
Actually, it was around your height. It was about 5 and 1/2 ft tall. this cryptid. [laughter]
00:48:57
Well, it was a grayish color. I mean, I've been there. Well, after you get birth, actually. After you had
00:49:02
[laughter] those kids, you were pretty gray. So, I'm checking off all the boxes.
00:49:06
I don't think I'll ever recover from you thinking that I said [laughter] you were
00:49:10
almost human. I think we did might need to pause so I can breathe. [laughter] Hold on.
00:49:16
It's just the way it was after you were like Mikey, you're 100. Then you were like similar to you,
00:49:23
it looked [laughter] almost human. I was like No. She's just like pop pop >> [laughter]
00:49:29
>> And you know what, DEBBY? HEY, DEB. OH MY GOD. OH, NO. TAKE COVER. >> [laughter]
00:49:40
>> Crawl run. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. >> [laughter]
00:49:45
>> Get it together. So, from where Henry was standing, the shape of the body almost looked human, similar to your
00:49:51
cryptid. Thank [laughter] you for that. It was around 5 and 1/2 ft tall, except it was a grayish color.
00:49:56
>> Okay. From the doorway, he aimed the pistol and he fired in the direction of the beast at least four times. He was
00:50:02
not [ __ ] around. >> like, "Die." He was like, [laughter] "Die." When he said, "When I fired that first shot, I
00:50:08
know I hit it." The creature gave out a hiss, much like a wildcat's. Then, after
00:50:12
it cried out, it just turned around and got the [ __ ] out of there. And he said
00:50:16
it covered 50 ft in just three or four bounds before disappearing into the woods completely. Holy [ __ ] It's
00:50:23
literally like Edward Cullen when he runs really fast. >> Yeah. Hold on tight, spider monkey.
00:50:28
>> at me. Pointing back to Twilight to get it on your mind again. Uh There's so many things I want to
00:50:33
[laughter] say even about that just that one >> will. scene alone and you better let us.
00:50:38
>> Yeah. You got it. >> [music] [music] >> So, he was shocked by whatever the [ __ ]
00:50:54
he just saw in the backyard. So, he ran inside and he said, "911, I'd like to report a cryptid."
00:50:59
>> [laughter] >> And two state troopers arrived a short time later cuz they didn't have a lot to
00:51:03
do, I guess. >> Yeah, they were like, "Let's see what this is about." So, they arrived
00:51:06
obviously way too late to see what this was. But, with Henry's help, they were able to find the tracks that the animal
00:51:11
had left behind or the cryptid. And they were nothing like anybody had really seen before. The tracks in the dirt
00:51:18
looked somewhat similar to what a dog might leave behind or an animal with like a similar foot pad, but it had six
00:51:24
toe pads on each foot instead of five. It's a six-toed, three-legged, stumpy-armed
00:51:31
[ __ ] >> gray thing >> [laughter] >> or [ __ ] >> or [ __ ] if you're nasty. So, the three
00:51:36
men searched the perimeter around the house and a short distance into the woods, too, but they didn't really find
00:51:40
anything aside from the prints. Back at the house, they listened as Henry described what this was. And at first,
00:51:46
they were I was [laughter] like, "What?" They said, "Maybe it's just a large dog that
00:51:50
you never have seen before." A large, six-toed dog. >> Maybe it's a large, six-toed uh dog with
00:51:56
three legs that's 5 and 1/2 ft tall. >> And has tiny arms as well. Makes sense. >> They were like, "I don't know. Maybe."
00:52:02
>> Honestly valid. Why not? Just throw that out there. >> Yeah. Just in case. It might stick to
00:52:05
the wall. >> Yeah. Henry was like, "No. Nope. Not a dog." >> Pretty sure it wasn't. But, after
00:52:10
listening again to the description, Trooper James Masters said that while it seemed highly unlikely one could be
00:52:17
roaming the woods of western Illinois, he said, "It kind of sounds like you're describing a kangaroo."
00:52:23
Uh Has he seen a kangaroo before? Okay. So, obviously >> seen one? Here's the thing. Kangaroos
00:52:28
don't have three legs. >> I was I was going like as we know. What does he think a
00:52:33
kangaroo is? >> [laughter] >> Well, I kind of I sort of see what he's getting at. So, they don't have three
00:52:39
legs, but in the dark, a tail could have given the appearance >> Yeah. of, you know, an animal standing
00:52:44
on three legs, especially cuz they also use their tails for balance, so it might
00:52:48
have looked like he was standing like that. But, it could have accounted for some of
00:52:52
the other features, too, especially cuz it he was like in the dark. Yeah. Cuz they have those little arms. Yeah.
00:53:00
They're grayish. Some of them. >> That's the thing. He was like, "It sounds crazy. I don't think there would
00:53:05
be a kangaroo in Illinois." >> Like I don't I've never seen a rogue kangaroo. I haven't either, much to my
00:53:12
chagrin. >> Yeah. I mean, I would love to, but >> I would really love to see a rogue
00:53:16
kangaroo. >> Do kangaroos have six toes? That I don't know. Let's find out. Do they have toes at [laughter] all?
00:53:22
At first, it said 18 and I said, "What?" Five toes on each front paw and four toes on each hind foot, so
00:53:30
>> Oh. Nay. So, no. They have less. Damn. All right. Well, there goes that. So, there's that. Well, he said in the dark,
00:53:36
it could appear to have a human shape. Gray is a color for kangaroos. And he said it could have easily explained the
00:53:42
growling hiss that it let out after it had been shot and how the animal managed to cover so much distance in a short
00:53:48
time. But, like you just said, they don't have six toes on each foot. >> Yeah. That's your That would have been
00:53:52
my first question. Yeah. Well, Masters suggested it could have been a kangaroo, but Henry flatly rejected that
00:53:58
explanation. He said he once had a pet kangaroo while serving in the army in Australia, so he would recognize one if
00:54:05
he saw it. I'm literally obsessed with the fact that he was able to shut that down with
00:54:11
that. He said, "Bitch, I had a kangaroo once." He said, "Not a kangaroo." >> You You think you know about kangaroos?
00:54:18
>> "I'm going to one-up you here. I had one." This is my kangaroo. >> This is not And it honestly, that would
00:54:23
make me be like Did you release your kangaroo? Like Wait a second. I don't really know what happened to his
00:54:29
kangaroo. >> to a kangaroo? Yeah. Yeah. Well, aside from taking down the information, there
00:54:33
really wasn't a lot but they could do, the troopers at that point. So, they conducted their brief search and then
00:54:38
they left the house assuming that that was probably the last they'd hear about it. They were like, "This guy's kind of
00:54:42
crazy." He's kind of crazy. He's kind of crazy. In a town like Enfield, the population's
00:54:47
less than a thousand residents, so there's not a lot that goes on there, especially back then, without somebody
00:54:52
else in town knowing about it and then everybody else in town knowing about it. So, not long after the state troopers
00:54:57
had showed up at the McDaniel's house, almost 50 to 75 onlookers had lingered in and around the family's yard while
00:55:04
they conducted this search, just trying to figure out what was going on. Yeah. And as a result, of course, over the
00:55:10
next few days, everybody in town, including a lot of reporters, had heard about the unusual encounter and they
00:55:15
just wanted to hear directly from Henry himself. >> I would want to hear. No. Henry was
00:55:20
like, "Hell yeah. I'll tell you everything." And over the few days after the encounter, he gave a ton of
00:55:25
interviews where he described the animal and he just, you know, kept giving increasingly dramatic retellings of the
00:55:31
story. Which if honestly, if I saw what he saw in his backyard, I'd do the same thing.
00:55:35
And when asked how he was able to recall the events so clearly and describe the beats like all the details, he said, "I
00:55:42
have a photostatic memory." Obviously. >> Yeah. Uh he also told reporters that he was
00:55:48
sure he wasn't mistaken in what he saw because the next day, some school children told him that they had seen a
00:55:53
similar-looking animal while they were playing on the school's baseball field. >> Oh.
00:55:57
>> So, now we got more eyewitnesses. He said he was sure it wasn't, quote, "a prankster." And he said because no man
00:56:03
can run that fast and leap such distances. I don't know. Ask Edward Cullen. I don't know.
00:56:09
>> Just saying. >> Hold on tight, spider monkey. Now, when it came to exactly what the
00:56:13
thing was, he he didn't really know exactly, but he said he did have a theory. He said, "If they do find it,
00:56:19
they will find more than one and they won't be from this planet. I can tell you that."
00:56:24
I like where he went there. He said >> that he went full stop. >> He said, "Martian." He said, "10 toes
00:56:30
down. This is an alien." >> It's an alien. They should study it. >> Okay. I'm into it.
00:56:33
>> So, when the articles were published in the papers about the sighting, Henry's
00:56:37
phone started ringing off the hook. He said he got around 250 phone calls, mostly from people telling him that he
00:56:43
thought they thought he was describing a kangaroo. So, everybody was really 10 toes down on that. Everyone's so willing
00:56:49
to accept the fact that a kangaroo is just rogue in the Midwest right now. >> Yeah. They really are.
00:56:55
>> Like everyone was just like, "Yeah." Because honestly >> Probably a kangaroo. Like if somebody
00:56:59
was like, "I saw something strange last night." Like we're in Massachusetts. "I saw something strange last night in my
00:57:04
backyard and it looked like this." The furthest thing from my mind would be that's probably
00:57:09
>> a kangaroo. And if somebody was like, "I think it was a kangaroo." I'd be like,
00:57:12
"I can tell you 100 reasons why it wasn't." >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> I can tell you 150 reasons why that's a
00:57:17
cryptid and not a kangaroo. >> Pretty sure our our climate is not super similar to Australia. No, definitely
00:57:23
not. >> really think they're hanging out here. >> That's the thing. I don't even know if
00:57:27
they really could survive for a long time here. >> around. I don't see them either. I've
00:57:33
yet to see one. Well, according to Henry, one call that he got was from a government representative who told him
00:57:39
it was the fifth sighting of such a phenomenon and the first uh being was in 1967 near Denver when UFOs were were
00:57:48
reported seen in the west. I like that a government representative was like, "Hello, Henry." Hello, Henry.
00:57:54
>> I just like to call you and tell you that you are one of five people who have
00:57:57
seen it. Like Okay. All right, Henry. He's like, "Here. You know what? I'm going to validate you because
00:58:01
everybody's calling you and saying this is not a kangaroo >> what they have to say?
00:58:05
>> What does a government representative loves to do more than to validate civilians?
00:58:09
>> Yeah. It happens all the time. Yeah. It happens every single day. >> it so much.
00:58:13
>> Me, too. In the streets. >> They're always validation. >> on the horn and being like, "I would
00:58:18
love to validate you today." >> Getting on the horn. I love [laughter] it. So, Henry maintained He was like, "Yeah.
00:58:23
That government official is right. I didn't see a kangaroo and other people saw the [ __ ] too." I mean, I trust
00:58:27
Henry here. So, he maintained that what he saw wasn't a kangaroo and he cited plaster molds that had been sent to the
00:58:32
lab for evaluation of the tracks that they got. And they didn't look anything like a kangaroo print. Of course not.
00:58:38
It's not a kangaroo. Yeah. I actually we talked about it like quickly earlier, but they're unique and easily
00:58:43
recognizable because of the shape of the foot and the fact that they have large claws.
00:58:47
>> Yeah. According to Henry, an anthropologist who had seen the prints casually identified them as resembling
00:58:53
those of a bear. So, he's like, "That's like the furthest thing from a kangaroo."
00:58:57
>> No, cuz you look at a kangaroo's claws, they're like They're claws are long. And
00:59:02
like I think when they're running, they go up a little on them, but still those are long-ass claws and they're like very
00:59:09
spindly. Yeah. And remember, they said it looked like a dog print with another an extra toe. So, it's like, "What?"
00:59:16
Um so, who knows about the tracks? But, while the mystery of the species remained unsolved, what was clear to
00:59:21
most law enforcement and local fish and game agents was that Henry wasn't making
00:59:26
this entire thing up. Not only had the state troopers actually seen the tracks outside of the McDaniel house, but they
00:59:32
also followed them down the railroad tracks and into a cornfield a few miles away.
00:59:36
>> Oh, they're always up in the corn. Cryptids love corn. Cryptids plus corn equals love. Honey, it's the land.
00:59:42
>> Honey, it's the corn. >> [laughter] >> They're just always up in there. >> They are. This guy is not as tall as the
00:59:48
corn like your guy was. >> him. But he was But honestly, that probably made it easier cuz he could
00:59:53
traipse through the corn. Yeah. He was he who walks behind the rows. Walks in the rows.
00:59:58
>> Also, I looked at a kangaroo track. No. Have you ever Have you seen them? >> I haven't even seen a kangaroo track.
01:00:04
>> Oh, it looks like There's only two toes in a kangaroo track. Yeah, no, that doesn't look like a kangaroo track at
01:00:09
all. Not a kangaroo. >> to look up their [ __ ] before they start citing that an Australian creature
01:00:14
is in our midst. Probably. Yeah. Probably. But you know, the government agreed that
01:00:19
it's not the government. Government. So the mystery deepened a few days later when investigators pulled quote
01:00:24
something resembling hair off of one of the tree limbs in that field >> Gross. where they were looking around.
01:00:30
According to Henry McDaniel, they all agreed quote the material looked nothing like animal or human hair. Ew. Yeah. I
01:00:38
don't like it. >> Now, when he was asked whether there was any blood or other evidence found that
01:00:41
would indicate that Henry had hit the animal when he fired that night, he told reporters the anthropologist saw
01:00:47
drippings of a clear substance that they collected for samples, but he wasn't sure what it was. Damn. So something
01:00:54
came out of this cryptid or animal, and it was a clear liquid. >> Something. Yeah. He just He just went
01:01:02
oozing away. Yeah, but they didn't they didn't know what it was. Like they got samples.
01:01:06
>> Well, and it's like that's the thing cuz it got shot. Yeah. At least once. And it's like is that its blood? Maybe.
01:01:13
Does it bleed clear liquid? Kind of like a Buffy zombie or like a not zombie, like a demon. Yeah. Yeah. Or it's very
01:01:19
alien-esque. It is. You know? >> That's why Henry thought that. >> I'm on Henry's side. Unfortunately, by
01:01:24
the end of April, the story kind of petered out when most of the press and public moved on, but it was revived in
01:01:30
early May when Henry called reporters to say he had seen the beast a second time
01:01:35
on May 6th. Henry's always seeing this beast. I know it. One time, two times, he's seeing him. He's seeing him. He
01:01:42
said he got he was awoken in the night by his dogs barking around 3:00 a.m., the witching hour. And when he went
01:01:48
outside to see what had gotten them so agitated, he saw the same three-legged monster standing on the railroad tracks
01:01:54
about 75 ft away. He said, "I seen something moving down the railroad track, and there it stood. I didn't
01:02:00
shoot at it or anything. It wasn't in a hurry or nothing." And when asked whether he was unnerved
01:02:05
by seeing something paranormal for a second time, he said, "I wasn't scared. I'd like to have it as a pet and charge
01:02:10
admission. It's something that's there, and we got to accept it." I'm literally obsessed with Henry.
01:02:15
Henry's the best. >> I'm I like his vibe. Yeah. I like his whole thing here. He's like, "This thing is
01:02:21
there. Let's just accept it." >> He's also saying like I think we have a connection because he keeps coming back
01:02:27
to me. >> Yeah, and I'm not scared about it. I think maybe we're kindred spirits. So,
01:02:30
you know, I see him, he sees me, and I could have him. >> He said, "With arms wide open, I accept
01:02:36
this creature." >> Full [ __ ] circle. He And he would have named him Creed. He would have. So,
01:02:40
there you have it. We go. [laughter] Well, the second sighting obviously brought a new round of reporters to
01:02:45
Enfield, including WWKI reporter Rick Rainbow. Rick Rainbow. >> It's also It's always so fun to say like
01:02:52
newspaper names like that or like radio names like WWKI. Cuz [laughter] you have to say it like
01:02:57
that. >> Yeah. Uh so Rick Rainbow was accompanied by Edward Phillips, a pet store owner
01:03:01
and a big game hunter. Rainbow interviewed Henry, and Phillips went out to the area where the animal
01:03:06
had last been seen, and he started making plaster casts out of the tracks in the dirt dirt again. Smat. Later in
01:03:12
his reporting, Rainbow described the tracks as about 4 in in diameter and having five distinct toe pads, possibly
01:03:19
a sixth. >> Not a kangaroo. No, definitely not. According to Rainbow, there were at
01:03:24
least three other people in the area who had quote seen something that shall we say is strange, including McDaniel's
01:03:30
next door neighbor, 10-year-old Greg Garrett, who said he saw the animal about half an hour before Henry had the
01:03:36
first time. He said he was in the backyard when the thing confronted him and quote stepped on his feet and tore
01:03:43
his tennis shoes to shreds. That's the most 10-year-old thing to say in the world.
01:03:47
>> He said, "That's what happened to my tennis shoes." >> Stepped on my goddamn shoes, and that's
01:03:52
the reason they're all [ __ ] up, Ma. Yeah. That's the reason. It's the cryptid.
01:03:56
>> you feel stupid now, huh? >> [laughter] >> Ma, it was a cryptid, not kangaroo.
01:04:01
That's why I need new shoes, Ma. >> That was exactly what [laughter] I thought when I read this, too. A [ __ ]
01:04:05
kangaroo cryptid stepped on my It confronted me. I need new shoes. It stepped to me.
01:04:11
It What was it? It sneered at me. It didn't sneer. It sneered. >> at me, bro." It did all the things.
01:04:16
Yeah. And now I need new shoes, Ma. I believe it. So, that's I know that's the thing. It's
01:04:21
like I believe Henry saw this thing. I really wish another adult had. I also wish that. Not [laughter] and not
01:04:26
10-year-old Greg. But here's the thing. The second sighting of the monster didn't just
01:04:31
bring reporters. It also brought a small group of hunters from as far away as Indiana, all looking to capture whatever
01:04:38
this was and like capitalize on it. >> No, don't capture him. Let him roam. Well, let him roam. The police felt that
01:04:43
way, too. On the afternoon of May 8th, local police arrested five teenagers from Elwood, Indiana on charges of
01:04:50
violating hunt hunting regulations after they were discovered to be hunting without a license and had literally no
01:04:56
proper safety precautions. They were just like Wiley shooting off into the distance and like Yeah. Literally. Just
01:05:02
before they got arrested, they said that they they saw a quote gray hairy creature in some underbrush and that it
01:05:08
ran faster than a man. So let it be, man. It's better than us. >> Yeah, don't shoot it.
01:05:12
>> If it's better than us, it it deserves to be here. That's what I think. >> It ran faster than you. That's it.
01:05:18
Survival of the fittest, baby. It It fit. The whole thing about There's another Twilight thing where it's like
01:05:25
outrun you. What does he say? >> As if you [laughter] COULD OUTRUN ME. I LOVE IT.
01:05:32
OH, MAN. PLEASE. PLEASE, you guys. You got [laughter] to let us of you. You got to let us [snorts] Back to this. So,
01:05:40
they all took aim at the what the beast they called it, and they fired with rifles and shotguns, and two thought
01:05:46
they hit the animal, but it still managed to get away. So this man is like out here or this creature is out here
01:05:51
like Swiss cheese still getting away. He doesn't He's just leaking fluid. Everywhere. [laughter]
01:05:55
Ew. Ew. Ew. Ew, gross. The arrests [laughter] prompted White County, which is a crazy name for a
01:06:02
county, Sheriff [laughter] Jim Clark Like side note. Like side note, maybe come up with a different
01:06:10
name. That's rude. >> [laughter] >> But White County Deputy Sheriff Jim Clark made a public statement warning
01:06:17
everybody else that they were about to be arrested if they kept shooting this thing. He said, "Nothing I know of is in
01:06:21
season now, especially monsters. Anybody we know of out hunting monsters, especially with guns, will be put in
01:06:27
jail. We're We are afraid they will kill somebody." He said, "Y'all, monsters are
01:06:32
not in season right now." Baby, [laughter] that's literally what he said. He was like, "I'll let you know.
01:06:38
We'll come up with a new law here in White County." >> You think you got a monster hunting
01:06:41
license? I don't know why they're They're suddenly southern, but they [laughter] are.
01:06:45
>> Literally Illinois. If you're talking about monster season in Illinois. >> Wait, there's like a Chicago accent, but
01:06:48
it's really hard to do. >> It is. It's hard. I don't even try cuz I'll piss you all
01:06:52
off, and I don't want to do that. I have family from Chicago, okay? >> Yeah, we're not out here trying to piss
01:06:56
off Chicago. We love Chicago. >> Sometimes Drew has a weird Chicago accent. I love that for him.
01:07:01
>> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> But anyway, by mid-May, most people in and around Enfield were pretty tired of
01:07:05
the Enfield monster. >> How could you be? It's ridiculous in my opinion. [laughter] It's ridiculous.
01:07:10
They just wanted things to return to normal, which I've never wanted. I can't [laughter] relate. Can't relate. The
01:07:16
editor of the Carmi Times wrote, "The case of Enfield's alleged monster has, for all intents and purposes, reached a
01:07:21
climax and apparently is going downhill." I mean, let's take alleged out of there. It's a good monster.
01:07:26
>> Even the sheriff thinks so. >> Yeah. At the sheriff's office, deputies were writing out citations left and
01:07:32
right to would-be monster hunters for trespassing, violating local hunting laws, and other city officials were
01:07:38
frantically trying to answer questions from reporters who were like, "Hey, what's up here in White County?"
01:07:43
>> What's up with this monster? Sheriff Roy Paschard told reporters he had already
01:07:47
quote declared an end is going to be put to the monster kick before somebody gets
01:07:50
hurt and he loses his mind answering queries from news media. He was like, "I'm going to go crazy on
01:07:55
your butts." I don't want to talk to y'all anymore. >> He's like, "Go on, get. Go on, get." So,
01:07:59
whether local law enforcement and residents wanted to be done with the monster was kind of irrelevant. As long
01:08:04
as there was still some interest in the beast, it And it turned out there was. Of course. So, after speaking with Rick
01:08:10
Rainbow about his reporting, I think it's Loren Coleman, a graduate student at the University of
01:08:16
Illinois, he decided to come to Enfield and study the animal himself if he could. He had spent years collecting
01:08:21
data on similar sightings of unidentified animals all around, and he thought that the Enfield monster could
01:08:27
actually be a legitimate case of a previously unseen species. Yeah, cuz that's the other thing. It's like
01:08:34
It doesn't have to be a monster, everybody. I'm We don't know everything that's on this planet.
01:08:38
>> That's it. We discover new [ __ ] all the time. So like called science, look it
01:08:41
up. >> a new strange-looking animal. >> That's what Loren said. He had a degree in [ __ ]
01:08:46
>> Yeah. So unfortunately though, after just a few days of, you know, looking out for the beast, he gave up on his
01:08:51
search when he came away or when all he came away with was just a few nice pictures of the White County
01:08:56
countryside. Pretty. Yeah. Name it something else. He insisted he wasn't giving up, but he
01:09:02
told the reporter he wouldn't resume his search until there was more definite information. Hm. Which is like kind of a
01:09:07
bummer. Lame. So, the final word on the monster came in mid-May when a letter from a man in Ohio arrived at the office
01:09:14
of the Carmi Times addressed to the publisher. The letter writer, Alan Yorkshire, had
01:09:19
read all the stories about the Enfield monster, and like many, he believed the description matched that of a kangaroo,
01:09:25
and he was wrong. Guys, it's not a [ __ ] kangaroo. If this is a kangaroo, I'll eat my hat. I it's not. But,
01:09:31
[laughter] this is crazy. The difference between his suggestion and like the suggestion of countless
01:09:36
other people was that he actually owned a kangaroo. Okay, maybe you're an expert, but I don't know. It's not a
01:09:42
kangaroo. I'm going to eat my hat. According to him, his pet kangaroo Macy had gone missing a year earlier
01:09:49
and he believed that she was stolen by somebody who was relatively local. Macy did kind of fit the description of
01:09:55
the monster and was described as her by her owner as a well as well-trained and gentle. And in his letter, Alan
01:10:02
indicated that he would be traveling to Enfield soon and would offer a reward to
01:10:06
anybody who could lead him to Macy, but as far as anybody knows, he just never showed up in town.
01:10:12
Are we sure he had a kangaroo named Macy? I don't know. Is this very solid information? I mean, he wrote to the
01:10:18
people. Or did he just say like, "So, I had this kangaroo named Macy." I mean, I don't know. She turned up
01:10:24
missing. I have no idea, but I think he had a kangaroo named Macy. That's so specific. I know, almost too specific.
01:10:32
You never know. Unfortunately, he didn't come out. Yeah. Well, it turned out that
01:10:36
the letter from Ohio was the last piece of in you know, significant information on the
01:10:40
origins of the Enfield monster. A year later, a reporter from DeKalb traveled down to the town to see if anything had
01:10:47
come of the story, but most people were pretty eager to put it behind them. A waitress at Echo Cafe said, "I think
01:10:52
it's about all over now. I heard the sheriff told him he better not be seeing any more monsters or he'd be off to the
01:10:57
funny farm." She's talking about talking about Henry. Damn. Poor Henry. So, whether or not law enforcement actually
01:11:04
told Henry to keep his mouth shut is unknown. They might have. But, what is clear is that once they put the story
01:11:09
behind them, the sheriff's department fully intended to keep it there. In 1974, Sheriff Paul Shure said, "No,
01:11:15
there ain't no damn thing to it. I let all that stuff go on until he got people with guns out there." I mean, I can
01:11:20
understand that he doesn't want people with guns trying to hunt this thing. Yeah, that's kind of the sheriff's worst
01:11:24
nightmare. Totally get that. That's very dangerous. Yeah, that's the thing. Things got It
01:11:28
could have all been fun. Nobody needed to shoot this thing. You could have just been like, "Ooh, we have a fun local
01:11:34
monster." Like just let it be. Things just got too risky once everybody was shooting willy-nilly. We have plenty of
01:11:40
local monsters floating around the Bridgewater Triangle. Yeah. None of us are out here trying to kill them. No.
01:11:45
So, let them be. Let them live. They were probably here before any of us. They definitely were. So, I don't give a
01:11:50
[ __ ] Puckwudgies, all right. You out there? I think they're out there. Whenever I see Delores out at
01:11:55
night, I'm like, "Fuck Puckwudgies." I think about it frequently. Giant giant snakes. It's It is what it
01:12:02
is. Puckwudgies are my biggest worry. Yeah, Puckwudgies will [ __ ] you up. I don't I don't want to [ __ ] with them.
01:12:06
But, that's the thing. I don't want to [ __ ] with them and I'm They don't [ __ ]
01:12:10
with me. I'm not trying to kill you, don't try to kill me. It's It's what I always say.
01:12:14
Puckwudgies, live and let live. Exactly, Puckwudgies. I live, I let you live. Yep. Well, a few years later in 1978, a
01:12:20
team of sociologists weighed in on the Enfield monster and they called the story
01:12:25
a classic case of social contagion. Whatever, man. >> [clears throat] >> Based on their analysis, the number of
01:12:31
actual sightings were a lot smaller than most people thought they were and one of
01:12:36
the supposed sightings, you know, the one that Greg Garrett had seen, was a practical joke. Unfortunately. I
01:12:44
mean, I'm not shocked. I think he just [ __ ] up his tennis shoes. Yeah, he did. Absolutely. Yeah. In their final
01:12:48
report, the team concluded, "Of the several monster reports discussed in Enfield on the McDaniels' first-hand
01:12:54
reports and the May 6th report of the WWKI party were made by people who were made by people who in all likelihood
01:13:02
thought they saw something." But, Henry McDaniel maintained that he did indeed see an unidentifiable
01:13:09
creature in his yard that night and the state troopers did find evidence of a strange [ __ ] animal having been
01:13:15
there. So, something happened in Enfield that night even if we don't know for sure
01:13:19
what it is. And that is why the Enfield monster has remained a local Illinois legend ever since. Illinois, you have a
01:13:27
monster. You do. And it's not a kangaroo. No. It's not a kangaroo and it's okay. It's fine. It's
01:13:33
all right. Also, if White County is still named that, you really have to change it. It's crazy.
01:13:37
That goes crazy. It goes really crazy. I I believe Henry. I believe Henry. And I'm prepared to defend him. Yeah. I
01:13:47
think our cryptids should team up and just take over the Midwest. I think so. I think they have. I think so. You know?
01:13:53
Yeah. The Beast of Bray Road, I think could really do do some damage. I think he did. Seems like the the Enfield
01:14:00
creature was hopping along. He was just hanging out. I mean, did he want to get in a house? Maybe. But, maybe he was
01:14:06
cold. Exactly. It's the Midwest. It's like, "Are you afraid of the dark?" I'm cold. So, maybe that's what it is. Yeah,
01:14:13
and maybe he was knocking, but it just sounded like he was scratching cuz he's got acrylics. He's got acrylics, so it's
01:14:18
like Scheana Shay, she can't make a fist. How are you going to knock if you can't make a fist? You just got to tap
01:14:22
with your nails. And she taps on that phone. There you go. Scheana Shay. I am watching old Vanderpump Rules
01:14:28
episodes, so that's very relevant. All right. Well, I love these cryptids. That was cryptids. Let us know if we can
01:14:35
cover Twilight cuz we're going to >> [laughter] >> on the bonus episode. Please on the
01:14:39
bonus episode. The bonus episode. And not the actual episodes. Bonus. Bonus. We hope you keep listening. And
01:14:45
we hope you keep it weird, but not so weird that you No, actually do keep it so weird that you spot a
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cryptid in the wild and then please tell us all about it. Yeah. >> [music] >> Let us do Twilight. I mean, we're doing
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it. I've decided. Executive decision. Executive decision stamped. >> [music] [music]
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