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there going huh that's the thing I have nothing I I could say a million things right now
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get to it like let's go so when we last left you we had we had successfully done
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the ransom drop yes we had figured out we' found the car the car from Massachusetts we had found that it
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traced back to George Deacon and we found those wild photos of George Deacon we also found some photos of Barbara
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Mackle yeah which are so chilling yeah and it's the one you can look at and again she's alive don't worry but she
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was drugged in that photo by the way we find out um but that's where we left off
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so on the morning of December 20th investigators learned that George Deacon had moved from Massachusetts to Florida
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where he had found work as a boat driver for a marine science laboratory at the University of Miami ah now agents
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Tracked Down Deacon's boss at that University his name was Dr Robert Hurley he was the head of the Marine Lab and
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Robert Hurley was was who the car was registered to right so there's all kinds of weird [ __ ] going on uhhuh so
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according to Hurley George Deacon was an incredibly bright and capable Man Who provided field assistance to the
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research scientists in the field weird that there was science [ __ ] buried in their front yard exactly in addition to
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driving the boat for them Deacon would apparently also help them build various kinds of ventilated boxes and containers
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that the team would use to transport their specimens like Marine specimens so he's very well
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vered in this oh my God now at the time of him being hired in June 1968 George Deacon said on his resume that he was 23
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years old okay um and he claimed that he had attended nor Eastern University in Boston Massachusetts hey uh under
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previous work experience he listed that he last worked as a channel Charter service driver in Sitka Alaska and that
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his supervisor was Jay Christ now his resume looked very impressive and it reads as someone who is
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interested in a career in science engineering that kind of thing but he was only 23 years old well that's what
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I'm sitting here wondering about so he listed a lot of important jobs for someone who's 23 and it's not like
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totally out of the realm of possibility but like it would be a red flag for anyone they people would check on this
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to make sure cuz he's very young to have all these like esteemed positions Yeah by 23 I I think I had waitress for a
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couple years and dropped out of Community College so so it's like not everybody's got like a thousand very
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important jobs on their resume no so Dr Dr Hurley later told agents because they
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were like yeah what did you guys check up on that yeah like did you think about that at all he said quote obviously our
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people didn't study this thing very carefully o thank you Dr Hurley yeah seems like it seems like it and what had
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happened was apparently he had gotten the job based on a recommendation from a previous coworker at
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MIT so whoever was hiring him the whole like uh committee didn't really bother to look deeper into his resume so he
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just put a bunch of [ __ ] damn he's he is very smart though that is one thing we'll find out he's a brilliant
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human Okay um he doesn't use it for good evidently no he certainly didn't now aside from providing some general
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information about Deacon there was one other thing that Dr Hurley showed the agents he said for the last several
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months Deacon had been dating one of the younger researcher scientists a graduate student named Ruth
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isman Shear okay now what he was asked to describe Ruth what does she look like tiny short she's a small woman knew it
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the description once they heard it the agents it made the agents think huh could Ruth Eisman sheer be the
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accomplice that Jane thought was like a teenage boy uhhuh cuz they were wearing a ski mask you know like they didn't
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hear the voice or anything like that uh it seemed very possible uh just because of the mask and everything so she could
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have easily passed and there there was also a call made from a young woman at the mackle's house during all of this oh
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and I'm not sure exactly what they said but there was a young woman's voice that
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somebody detected okay now based on the information that he provided to the human resources department at the
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University agents learned that George Deacon listed his address at the all real trailer park in Miami and so they
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went to talk to neighbors there and the neighbors described him as quote bitter and bright and an admirer of wealth huh
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now according to that neighbor Deacon apparently quote resented living in a trailer and apparently he lived there
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with his wife and two children for the last 6 months for the previous 6 months but 2 weeks earlier his wife and his
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children had left I was like you said wife but you also said he was dating a graduate student they had left oh
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goodness this is a mess yeah so on the morning of December 20th as the agents were starting to close in on their
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suspect now investigators caught a big break because they received a call from a young man who thought they'd seen
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George Deacon the night before the previous evening this man that was calling said he bought a detachable
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trailer in a local parking lot from someone matching George Deacon's descrip description when he read the paper that
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morning he said he read about the kidnapping and the man he was like he really looks like this guy like I think
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it might be him so he was worried the trailer might have been used in the kidnapping so he called and reported it
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right away good smart now inside the trailer agents found some boxes and most of it was just junk but one contained
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several letters that referenced George Deacon as well as one as another man named Gary Christ okay now when the
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agents ran Gary Christ's name through their various databases they learned that Gary Christ was he had a criminal
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record not good several car thefts he'd been serving a prison sentence at the Dual Correction Institution in Tracy
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California until 1966 oh [ __ ] that was only a couple years before yeah and then
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he escaped from the prison you [ __ ] me quote under a hail of gunfire that killed his Escape companion oh my God
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and then he went on the Run what do they call yam on the on the Lamb on the lamb
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oh my on the sweet potato he went out on the sweet potato never to be seen again I'm
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tired oh God as soon as I said it I said it's not the [ __ ] yam I said why did you say that out loud you big idiot I
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love it so much sweet potato honestly petition to change it petition to change it go out on the SE
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potato out on the sweet potato that should t-shirt I'm on the yam don't bother me I'm on the yam that'd be a
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good than giving t-shirt that would be a good one oh oh holiday uh so yeah so Gary Chris was out on the
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yam you know he's out as one is he's out on the yam and I'm in my afternoon slump it's 3:44
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but throughout his criminal career Gary Chris had actually also gone by several aliases including the name Arthur
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Horwitz George S price and Dr Johnson rck W where did that one come from good for you good for you giving yourself a
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doctor Dr yson Ric like all right and when the agents compared George Deacon's fingerprints taken from the Volvo to
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those on file with the California Department of Corrections they discovered that George Deacon was the
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convict Gary Chris ding ding ding ding ding ding wow this is this is a man who is on the yam after on the being in
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prison and which escaped under a hail of gunfire where somebody died yeah like this is serious yeah I know I should
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take yeah it is serious I me the yam isn't but like that's I mean like he's a serious [ __ ] I shouldn't be
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picturing him riding a sweet potato out of jail right now well now that's all I picture so
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that's I can't stop I'll never stop picturing that and honestly I don't want to I never want to stop picturing that
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someone that please I can't stop with a lasso for some reason so Gary Christ was definitely a criminal
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definitely a sociopath at this point oh no a sociopath I mean he he buried a woman underground oh so I didn't know we
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got that far yet sorry focused on the of it all bad he's pretty bad God cuz he's
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definitely the the kidnapper he's he's George Deacon oh wonder I'm really glad that you did
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that didn't hit cuz I was like I thought that was going to hit harder than it did
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no yeah I'm so sorry [ __ ] all right all right I'm here I'm here I don't know what's going on
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you need some coffee I think I do probably give me a Red Bull okay all right what a f I don't know I was like
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yeah he he's crazy I was like like why are you questioning them yeah cuz you're like oh
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[ __ ] he is I'm like I I feel like that's pretty I feel like that's pretty safe to
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say that I don't know I was listening too I promise he put a whole person in a box under yeah that's [ __ ] okay I'm
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I'm sorry yeah but don't worry about it it's cuz now you know George is scary when I said it you were like oh and I
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was like she didn't get it damn I thought that was was going to hit there was a lot of names said within that that
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period true there was there was I'll give you that and I like I said dropped out of Community College so here we are
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well Gary Chris who is George Deacon the kidnapper so he's the guy that had been
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in jail before yeah prison he's the guy who escaped on the sweet potato okay [ __ ] I'm with you now all right all
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right that's him that's George Deacon that's our guy with the police hat on the with the beefy description and he
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has all these aliases and he has a ton of aliases the problem was I was really focused on him riding out of prison on a
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sweet potato he was dating Ruth Eisman um she okay all right all right here who could be his accomplice in this because
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the agents are sitting there going well she is a small yeah I got all that I got
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all same people oh [ __ ] um so but you know like he's a bad person sociopath even and Barbara again like according to
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Barbara's instincts of saying like why wouldn't they just kill me if they were planning to kill me might have been
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right because according to everybody you know according to the people involved here Gary Christ George Deacon the same
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guy and Ruth Eisman Shear did not intend to kill her that was not their end game
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apparently according they just wanted the money they wanted to get the money and they wanted to get out of there okay
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my thing is though and I'm saying this because it's already happened so it's like I feel like like um they didn't
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have to put her in the ground they could have just held her where they were yeah
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um and then claimed that they' put her in a box underground cuz they didn't provide the mackel with any proof that
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she was in the ground right that picture never got to them and they said that picture was coming eventually they got
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that picture they said something was coming they said it was coming some kind of proof but they didn't get the proof
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and they technically didn't have to give the proof right they could have just got
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proof of her being alive yeah so they didn't have to put her in the ground which to me says a lot more about
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them yeah it's like they didn't have to do it they could have just lied right the the maal would have I'm sure would
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have gathered that money would have done the same drop just to get her back I don't care if she's actually in the
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ground or not I want her back I want her out of your [ __ ] possession like give
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me my child back that is interesting why' they put her in the ground if they didn't intend to kill K her I'm like I
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you didn't care about killing her seven days should they you didn't get that money you were just going to
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leave that poor girl alone in the woods in a box to suffocate to death so it's like we should look at them a little
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more like than just like they didn't mean to do it like like they weren't meaning to kill her it's like I don't
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know it would have happened there was a lot of intent here there was a lot of negligence and a lot of there's a lot of
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like just uh strange pathology yeah I'm trying to think of the word I'm thinking
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of it's very um like but there's definitely a disinterest in what is happening to her it's it's indifference
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indifference that's exactly the word I was thinking of there is an indifference why the [ __ ] could I think of that word
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no I thought that's what you were thinking too thank you but the word was not coming to me either so much better
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yeah there's a total indifference to whether this woman lived died whatever that's the perfect word for it and they
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put her through a [ __ ] nightmare scenario and they laid their heads on a pillow every night she's in a [ __ ]
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box in the middle of the woods panicking like I think I just think it's like it's
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looked at as like they were kidnappers I'm like well it's like little more than that it's like how attempted murder
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doesn't carry the same sentence as actual murder it's like you still going to go through with it that something
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just didn't work out at what you were trying to do like it just it bothers me but after the second money drop like
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after the second Ransom drop Chris waited nearly 15 hours and then called the FBI headquarters in
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Georgia and the secretary answered the call and she attempted to transfer him to one of the agents but he cut her off
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and demanded that she take down the instructions this poor [ __ ] secretary and so Chris gave the secretary
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directions to a wooded area in the small City of Norcross Georgia which was about
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25 miles outside of Atlanta but he gave super vague directions and he gave no indication about what the [ __ ] they were
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supposed to be looking for when they got there so he just gave them a very vague
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very vast area and gave that's the other thing and he gave them nothing to look for and this is where she's supposed to
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be yeah and it's like and she's running out of air running out of everything yeah and I'm supposed to believe that
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you weren't intending to kill her or hurt her I feel like there is this I get the sense that like he's having fun
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making these calls and he's in control yeah and he's watching Everybody run around and it's [ __ ] up exactly so
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moments later the information was passed on to the agents on the case and the team just rushed to the location um and
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when they arrived the vastness of the area made it seem entirely unlikely that after now 4 days in the ground that they
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would find Barbara alive yeah and the Agents fanned out across the area they were scouring the woods they were
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looking for anything they had no idea what they were supposed to look for they were looking for they're like maybe I'm
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looking for like some kind of pipe I don't know like what should I be looking looking for and then
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suddenly one of the agents caught a glimpse of what appeared to be a small piece of flexible pipe sticking out of
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the ground rushed over began digging into the Earth with his hands calling out for everyone to help him dig and she
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can probably hear him when they dug about 13 in into the Earth the agents could hear Light tapping coming from the
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earth underneath them so they're digging faster and faster until about 18 in down
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they discovered the lid of the makeshift coffin and the lid was it was airtight it had been screwed into place so she
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could never have gotten out of it oh my God and they had to they had to remove the screws like they couldn't even rip
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the lid off right away they had to like manually get the screws out and they found Barbara Mackle very weak and very
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dehydrated but still alive after 80 hours in that box 80 hours 80 hours in that box four [ __ ] days yep but
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Barbara was quickly bundled up in blankets and taken to an ambulance where they found that she had superficial
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injuries but she was otherwise pretty unharmed that's good uh once she was cleared by medical personnel she was
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loaded into her father's plane and flown back to Florida where they retreated into their home and were like get the
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[ __ ] away from us so she got to spend Christmas with her family yeah she did what a [ __ ] Christmas that must have
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been see oh talk about being like thankful in a statement to the Press Robert mackle's brother Frank told
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reporters that Barbara was quote in good health and good spirits despite her ordeal wow and she told the family her
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kidnappers quote were very considerate actually and she was very well taken care of by a woman huh and in fact Frank
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Mackle told reporters that Barbara's main worry was that we would be worried oh yeah
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and nobody knows if obviously that was true or if Barbara was just sparing her family emotional horror of dealing what
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she had to deal with but Gary and Ruth technically didn't have a History of Violence uh and both maintained that
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they would they only took Barbara for ransom so I still don't really I mean I believe
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Barbara what she says yeah but I don't believe their intention was purely money we get money and that I think I think
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that was 100% the motivation I don't think they went into this because they were like let's hurt someone today I
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don't think that was the case I think they were like I want the money I don't really care if she lives or dies exactly
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problem the inder I think it's the indifference of it that bothers me I agree but the next morning Jay Ed Edgar
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Hoover gave his own statement to the press and he stated that arrest warrants had been issued for Gary Christ and Ruth
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Eisman Shear for the kidnapping and attempted Ransom of Barbara Mackle and in his statement Hoover noted that Chris
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had escaped from the Dual Correction Institution and the warden described him as quote a young man of very Superior
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intelligence that's scary very Ruth was described as a graduate student in the marine biology department and a native
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of eltio Honduras I hope I said that right um both were described as armed and dangerous with a demonstrated
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willingness to fire upon law enforcement if cornered mhm uh in the days after that FBI agents tracked Gary Chris's
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movements to West Palm Beach Florida where he stored his car at the allright West Palm Beach parking station on
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December 20th this was like as he was telling them where barbar was they were able to to track all these movements
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backwards okay uh he had told the clerk that he would return to get the car in 10 days and from there is when where he
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went to the Dixie market and that's where he used the telephone to place the call to the FBI office to tell them
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where Barbara was that afternoon they were able to track him to the D and Marine Supply where he rented a boat an
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Orlando Clipper and set out along the coast in direction of the Bahamas oh no now again this was them tracking his
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movements after the fact uh-huh so he's already set out uhoh now they were like cool he's definitely trying to flee the
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country obviously so they scrambled to capture him before he was outside of us jurisdiction holy [ __ ] is this a [ __ ]
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movie it's wild but did they make this a movie they did make this um into I I can't remember if it's a movie or a TV
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show it might even be both let me look it up 83 hours till dawn it's based on her autobiography it was a TV movie yeah
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there it is damn damn that's crazy okay keep going now unfortunately by the time the sun had
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gone down and without knowing exactly where he was there was no way to find him in the dark at that time so the
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following morning December 21st a Coast Guard Plane carrying several FBI agents spotted his boat shut the [ __ ] up it was
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abandoned on the coast in Fort Meyers and a local FBI helicopter was dispatched to the area and this was an
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area around Hog Island which is a small alligator infested island of the Southwest coast sorry qua
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who the [ __ ] is this guy yeah where they searched the boat and they found a duffel bag containing all the ransom
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money minus a few thousand dollar that Christ had already spent what yep he just left the money on the an alligator
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infested Island well given that he had Beach the boat on an island he had to be on the island where the [ __ ] else was go
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[ __ ] swimming with that and so they fanned out and searched the island and after a few hours they
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located him he was just standing about around the trees just like in a bunch of trees just vibing with the trees taken
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into custody without incident and after all that had led up to this it was pretty uneventful and like at it was
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like up to this point it's like oh my God he's on a boat he's on his way to the Bahamas holy [ __ ] we can't even see
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him it's the next morning we have a plane oh my God it's his boat it's on an Alig Gator infested Island holy [ __ ]
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he's on the island he's in the trees like it's just like oh there he is but where's Ruth and it's like what the [ __ ]
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how does it end with like there he is he's just hang I just picture him like leaning up against a tree like drinking
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a coconut they so an agent literally said he was just standing there in the mangrove what the [ __ ] they said he
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didn't even put up a fight he had no comment I mean what the [ __ ] else was he going to do I'm on I'm on an alligator
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infested Island really what do I do I guess he wasn't armed then huh he was carrying a small gun and about $188,000
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of the ransom money all righty yeah so 3 months later on March 5th 1969 Ruth Eisman sheer was arrested by Agents from
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Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation it took okah months and Oklahoma after a potential employer ran her fingerprints
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as part of a background check and alerted the Oklahoma SBI shut the [ __ ] up so she was trying to get a job and
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they were like oh baby you're on the FBI's most wanted list like what the [ __ ] we're gonna have to uh apologize
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but the you didn't get this one you didn't get we're going to pass on another candidate seem to have uh what
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you don't which is not being on the FBI's moted list yeah that's kind of like what we go for around we were neck
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and neck at that point but that's really what tipped them over the FBI list is always a tiebreaker it's always the
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thing we look for you know [ __ ] and in fact at the mo at that time she was the
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first and only woman to appear on the FBI's most wanted list wow this woman that's crazy Ruth was charged with
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extortion and a judge set her bond at $500,000 I'm like can we put attempted murder in there as well they buried her
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in a [ __ ] box at the time of her arrest it appeared to agents as though Ruth Ruth was planning to flee the state
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ah and she told various friends and acquaintances different stories about how she was going to be taking some time
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off and she left her roommates three separate notes and later some of of her friends
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def said that she was definitely expecting to be arrested it seemed uh when asked for comment about the arrest
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Barbara Mackle said I think it's a great tribute to the efficiency of the FBI Barbara forever Barbara's such a classy
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lady she's a sweet queen she really is and by the time she sat down with agents on the afternoon of her arrest Ruth had
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prepared a statement regarding her relationship with Gary Christ whom she only knew as George Deacon she did not
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know his real name according to Ruth they met while she was studying Marine Science at the University of Miami and
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she quickly fell in love with him and after about a month or two of having a relationship Chris told Ruth you know I
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have the idea for the Perfect Crime are you in no the answer is always no baby and she was like I'm sorry what and he
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was like well if we pull it off we could take all the money and run away together
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but you'll never pull off a great crime like that and you shouldn't try nope she
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wasn't put off at all by her new boyfriend suggestion at all and they began pouring over Miami social record
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which is how they came across Robert mackle's name and they learned that Robert Mackle had a daughter Barbara oh
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my God so they're pieces of [ __ ] yeah and the two plann the kidnapping meticulously for weeks we like we said
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like these we said that was planned also I was like they had to have done this before yeah they did and they didn't
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with all the like they just planned it for like for weeks even the specifications about the suitc case
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though like how would you even [ __ ] think about that that's his brain that he is
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misusing and Chris designed and built the box that they were going to keep did yeah he did the job and when they were
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finally ready to execute the plan they left Miami for Atlanta stopping at the mle house along the way to bury the
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ransom note and they had planned to kidnap Barbara from her dorm room actually at Emery but when they arrived
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in Atlanta they learned she'd moved to a motel room with her mother I'm not sure
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how they knew that which is like [ __ ] up yeah somebody had to have said something somebody must have not knowing
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said something unless they were they may have been following her like they may have spotted her on the campus
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absolutely so they revised their plan over lunch at a diner and at they while they were at the diner they stole the
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Hat of a local police officer in the restaurant and that's the one they used are you kidding me so in case the whole
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situation with the kidnapping didn't make you think like what the [ __ ] going on with the police there in the
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60s yeah uh one was they were able to steal one of their hats at a [ __ ] Diner just like whip it off his head
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just took the Hat he probably left it on the [ __ ] table while he was going to pee or something like my goodness what
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the [ __ ] so in the few days leading up to the kidnapping Ruth and Chris watched
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Jane and Barbara and that's how they learned about steuart uh Woodward and knew what kind of car he drove so that
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they could use it in that Roose right now Ruth explained that everything was going up to plan until the first night
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of the ransom drop when the uh police intervened yep and the couple became separated and a few hours later cuz
00:28:37
remember they went in different directions when the police came yeah Ruth a few hours later returned to the
00:28:42
car that they had abandoned but didn't and was trying to wait for him to come back but he never showed up so he just
00:28:49
[ __ ] left so she thought he'd taken the money for himself and abandoned her so she thought she was used and she went
00:28:55
back to Atlanta got on a bus she took the bus as far as her money would get her which turned out to be Norman
00:29:02
Oklahoma she found work at a drive-in restaurant and took room at a boarding house it was just going to be like
00:29:08
well so to be clear she helped bury a woman in a box in the middle of the [ __ ] forest and
00:29:17
then just dipped and she was like well looks like my boyfriend dumped me so I guess I'll just go get a job somewhere
00:29:23
and live my life not caring at all about what happened to Barbara I'm going to go
00:29:28
ahead and say it what a [ __ ] [ __ ] like whoa what like damn that is cold that's
00:29:38
so cold and so callous and that makes me sit here and say what the [ __ ] else are
00:29:44
you capable of that's the thing cuz if you're capable of knowing going on with your life knowing that a girl is in a
00:29:50
box yeah and that you don't know if it's going to end or or not like like and the
00:29:55
same for [ __ ] this assho like thank goodness they got Gary yeah cuz Gary was just going to take that money and you
00:30:03
know off he goes and Gary is Gary's just as bad but Ruth it's like you don't even
00:30:08
you weren't even there when Gary called the FBI to tell them where Barbara was as far as you know he's never told her
00:30:14
where they are and they're never going to find her and you didn't place and you were just popping off into the rest of
00:30:18
your life exactly at the very [ __ ] least Gary called and told where they where she was yeah which I'm not giving
00:30:25
him credit for but I'm saying like what a different situation where it's like you were just popping off to live your
00:30:30
life you had no idea like damn this is mindboggling they are such vile human beings now at her arraignment on March
00:30:40
7th Ruth told the judge it's a terrible feeling to see all these people out there and you are all alone and they're
00:30:46
all against you she was talking to the large crowd that had assembled outside the courtroom hey you know what I'll a
00:30:53
terrible feeling is um bu being buried in a box in the woods like couple days before Christmas or [ __ ] ever uh all
00:31:02
alone yeah it's like Ruth you oh you feel alone if I was that you feel alone you wonder like judges do get Snappy
00:31:09
sometimes and we always love that but you wonder how they're not just Snappy all the time cuz I would how do you look
00:31:14
that girl dead in the face and just be like yeah anyway moving on now if that I can't imag if I was the judge I'd
00:31:20
literally be like are you [ __ ] kidding me Ruth be so for real right now be so for real right now Ruth like are
00:31:27
you kidding me with that I feel so alone shut the fu so alone well maybe we should bury you in a box in the middle
00:31:33
of the Wilderness and the animals can keep you company how about that that's alone and as far as you were concerned
00:31:38
Ruth she was going to be alone forever in that box [ __ ] a but you feel alone because there's people outside that are
00:31:43
mad that you buried someone in a box sorry yeah sorry about that so so sad life's tough huh yeah now after
00:31:51
conferring with his client Ruth's attorney told the judge as you can see from her action actions yesterday the
00:31:57
realization finally has come home to her that she is in a tough situation I found
00:32:02
her somewhat despondent as you can well imagine she certainly is not as gay as she has been good a tough situation
00:32:10
really not she's found herself in a tough situation where she signed on to a plot to extort a rich man by abducting
00:32:17
his daughter and burying her in a box in the middle of the woods it's tough situation you know one thing to call
00:32:24
that I guess that's pretty tough and oh no she's not as cheerful as she has been
00:32:29
I good oh good man I guess we should we should change how we're dealing with this I suppose you know who's probably
00:32:36
not as cheerful as they once were Barbara she probably has [ __ ] PTSD up the Wazoo oh would you hear some yeah
00:32:43
we'll get there so a few days later Ruth was transferred back to Georgia where she was charged locally with kidnapping
00:32:50
her invol involvement in this case made her somewhat of a local celebrity with the Press frequently commenting on her
00:32:57
beauty and and fashionable attire whenever she appeared in court I don't give a [ __ ] what you're wearing you
00:33:02
buried a girl in a box and of course this was one of those situations even in the 60s this is in the 70s this is one
00:33:09
of those situations where people said no she's too beautiful she's too pretty for
00:33:13
that pretty people do [ __ ] up things she knows how to put together an outfit there's no way she was kidnapping people
00:33:20
those two things are not mutually exclusive yeah like have you what the [ __ ] what do you mean somebody can't you
00:33:27
have have to be ugly to be able to do ugly things no babies no some of the prettiest people do the ugliest [ __ ] the
00:33:34
ugly [ __ ] is on the inside exactly and it comes out eventually but the ugly [ __ ] is on the inside saying she's too
00:33:39
pretty for that is absolutely Buck Wild yeah and it's what and it's she the worst part is you look at her and you're
00:33:46
just like wow girl like really like cuz she like she's a very normal looking person so I understand like some people
00:33:54
like especially cuz we look at it through like a 2024 lens yeah and we're like of course anybody can do that but I
00:34:01
think even back then it was still shocking to see like especially a woman a woman you know what I mean and
00:34:06
especially a woman that's pretty and fashionable like being like that they're just like what people are like no can
00:34:12
you imagine that was your defense I am way too pretty and I put together way too good of an outfit to be accused of
00:34:17
this and they're like got it but others really liked the fem fatal narrative cuz
00:34:22
they found it more compelling uh one article asked could a woman like Ruth Eisman Shear the the fetching hysteria
00:34:28
prone blonde with a knack for attracting males to love and protect her provide the motivation to drive a man to carry
00:34:34
out a kidnap scheme I don't think she drove him to do it I think was just along for the [ __ ] ride yeah it
00:34:41
sounds like he actually came up with the idea but thank you for all right in fact
00:34:45
the article goes on to say as a Miami Beach clinical psychologist told me Saturday are you ready for a myami beach
00:34:52
clinical psychologist and what they have to say in many instances the woman is the driving force and yet when the crime
00:34:59
is committed she does not bear the responsibility I would put my life savings on the fact that a man said that
00:35:05
it's I would put my life savings on it okay unnamed Miami Beach CL clinical psychologist my God but later that month
00:35:14
Ruth pleaded not guilty to the charges of kidnapping and extortion and a trial yeah and a trial date was set for June
00:35:21
9th but when her trial date came Ruth changed her plea to guilty to one count of kidnapping and immediately began
00:35:28
serving her seven-year sentence at the Georgia State Prison for Women back it up seven years 1 2 3 4 5 6
00:35:37
7 that's it she went along with a plan to extort a father by burying his I just got to say it one more time everybody
00:35:45
burying his daughter in a box and then when it didn't really work out she just moved to Oklahoma yeah the [ __ ] s years
00:35:54
is everybody all right uhhuh and like gen genely why was attempted murder not put on there cuz cuz don't don't you get
00:36:02
it they they never wanted to kill her psych don't you get it everyone oh my God cuz they
00:36:09
said yeah let's believe them in 1973 Ruth successfully petitioned for parole that's [ __ ] crazy and was
00:36:18
released from prison and she was deported back to hondurus and she receded from the public Spotlight good
00:36:24
for her get out of there girl uh after his arrest Gary Chris said very little to authorities and in early March 1969
00:36:32
he pleaded not guilty to charges of kidnapping and kidnapping for ransom huh The Plea was made with a special
00:36:38
attachment that it could be changed at a certain point pending a sanity hearing we do have to go back for just one
00:36:44
second she really is the normalist looking girl I've ever seen is Wow that's scary Bonkers that's scary
00:36:51
so District Attorney Richard Bell told reporters the special plea means that his lawyers think Christ is unable to
00:36:58
understand the charges against him now between his arraignment and his sanity Hearing in April Gary Chris began a
00:37:05
hunger strike in his cell in decar Georgia um and this is because he believed someone was trying to poison
00:37:12
him he said kind of like he poisoned multiple people with chloroform Andor ether yeah I also think it's complete
00:37:18
[ __ ] and so did the authorities they believed that the hunger strip was strike was his attempt to be moved to a
00:37:24
more escapable place yeah probably cuz remember he escaped from prison before uh but after 28 days of hunger strike he
00:37:32
collapsed from malnutrition and required intervenous feeding um and the sheriff told reporters he does little now but
00:37:39
sleep he stopped his almost continual writing but he still will wear nothing but a pair of underwear shorts in his
00:37:46
cell he does love to be NY he does uh his attempts to convince psychiatrists of his mental illness were uh
00:37:53
unsuccessful okay and he went to trial in miday and in fact despite having been evaluated by 10 different doctors the
00:38:00
defense never called any one of them to testify because as one reporter said no psychiatrist would call the defendant
00:38:07
insane yeah uh rather than demonstrate any symptoms of mental illness like a lot of these defense you know defendants
00:38:14
do when they're being evaluated they at least try yeah he didn't he would just spend hours complaining to these
00:38:20
psychiatrists about the justice system system as a whole okay he said he was quoted as saying the law is unjust and
00:38:26
it's cons ception and its application it's mechanically unsound it is bound to disintegrate and fall apart it's very
00:38:33
poorly conceived disagree and when they came to his own case he believed the system was just rigged against him and
00:38:40
in favor of those with wealth and power and I was like wait do you mean the people whose daughter you stolen put
00:38:44
underground like I don't know if that one's rigged against you like like I'm not saying in general I'm saying in this
00:38:51
particular case I don't think that one was R I think you put Someone's Child underground in a box and then extorted
00:38:59
money out of them so I I don't I don't think I'm with you on that that they that rigged against you I no I think you
00:39:07
did a bad bad thing even riable and you happen to do it to a wealthy powerful person which was your problem no one
00:39:15
else's like I'm sorry you chose someone who is like smarter than you when it in like more powerful than you to steal
00:39:24
their child and put them in a box Underground I don't know about all that it's like dude I don't think you're
00:39:29
going to win with that one I don't think that one you're going to get a lot of people being like totally should have
00:39:33
been able to totally rigged absolutely calling that rigged is wild and he said quote I've offended the cartel that runs
00:39:41
this country in case you don't know I'm in jail simply because I was overpowered what so he's calling like
00:39:48
the rich and Powerful like the cartel of this country and he's saying I offended
00:39:53
them and I was like you you definitely offended some people yes I say so but like the other thing is I don't see it
00:40:00
the way you see it you're not he's acting like he's like Robin Hood or something and I'm like that's the thing
00:40:05
like robbed from the rich and gave to the poor you were trying just to become rich you wanted to join that very cartel
00:40:12
quote unquote ex and it's like you did it by taking someone's daughter and putting them in a box
00:40:19
underground that's where you went wrong I understand saying certain systems are rigged and like it's hard to make money
00:40:25
and it's hard to get rich like hund and that's why I'm like you could have just generalized that and made it a little
00:40:32
more of like a stance yeah but you took Someone's Child and put them in a box underground like I can't you have no
00:40:41
high horse to stand from he's like Eat the Rich and I'm like it's you had a suitcase full of almost $4 million
00:40:48
[ __ ] .5 million you had in a suitcase and you were flying you were running off to the Bahamas with it let's
00:40:54
bury you in a box because you took someone's child and put them in a box underground it's like that is where your
00:41:00
problem lies my friend steal money you didn't even extort money in any other way you took a whole human from somebody
00:41:09
and put them in the [ __ ] ground to possibly suffocate to death you didn't know if she was still alive you had no
00:41:16
[ __ ] clue she could have died the first night you did that with like specimen like Marine specimen you never
00:41:21
did that with a human you didn't know how the [ __ ] that was going to go and you certainly never buried them under
00:41:25
the ground I don't I don't see you burying Marine [ __ ] specimens underground for research knowledge and
00:41:31
it's like so you're sitting there trying to take this like passion stance and it's like nope not in your case buddy
00:41:37
like let's be real to sum it all up that ain't it that ain't it that ain't it that ain't it and so despite his
00:41:46
statements about a rigged system and trying to appeal to the greater you know thought of that people do look at the
00:41:53
justice system we've looked at it before as like being being unfair and being broken and all that stuff instead like
00:42:00
you know it does work and the jury did seem to take pity on him a little bit from that that's absolutely insane they
00:42:07
delber not in this case yeah they deliberated for a little over 4 hours and then returned a guilty verdict with
00:42:13
the recommendation of Mercy why meaning they spared him the death penalty okay instead he was given life a life
00:42:22
sentence all right that was the mandatory sentence in the state of Georgia that's crazy that he got a life
00:42:27
sentence and she got seven years years yeah that's wild that's where the the problem with the justice system in lies
00:42:34
yeah that's a problem like um what but he had the potential for parole after don't even don't seven years are
00:42:43
you [ __ ] kidding me yeah how why who what one where not sure but when the verdict was read aloud in court you want
00:42:51
to know what he did do I he yawned grasping his wrist and glancing at the clock yeah like stretch
00:43:03
yawned was kind of thing and was like what an absolute pompous waste before he was led out of the courtroom by armed
00:43:10
guards he that's what he did he just did like the stretch like n oh boy life must
00:43:15
be so tiring for you uh in its statement to the Press prosecutor Richard Bell told reporters naturally were
00:43:21
disappointed we thought the circumstances of the crime demanded the death penalty the trial was the first
00:43:26
time time the public got any insight into Gary Chris psyche and personality and for many they didn't like what they
00:43:32
saw no uh in an editorial in the Miami Heralds one journalist wrote the kidnapper is a brilliant man but we do
00:43:39
not agree with his view that he is a superior human being we will not accept that definition of a man who put the
00:43:45
mael girl girl in a crude grave and left her there in torturing Darkness the superiority of Gary Christ is one of
00:43:52
Cruelty we believe that behind bars is where he belongs and where he should stay you're here we said yes yes Chin
00:43:58
Chin you're here and it turned out the Supreme Court of Georgia agreed with the wider public with respect to his freedom
00:44:05
in 1970 his lawyers filed an appeal with the court arguing like a bunch of stuff
00:44:10
but also that the you know bunch of to sum it up like a bunch of stuff the court argued like a bunch of [ __ ] it's
00:44:16
giving legally blocked I love that they argued a bunch of [ __ ] but the lower court but the one thing I wanted to talk
00:44:23
about was that the lower court they said that the lower court aired in over ruling the defense's motion to dismiss
00:44:29
the charge of kidnapping for ransom on the grounds that the offense was not defined by the statute okay and in their
00:44:36
summary the justices noted the offense for which the defendant was indicted tried and convicted kidnapping for
00:44:42
ransom was designated a crime by necessary implication by the general assembly and requires no definition also
00:44:49
the justices pointed out that the evidence supported the indictment and thus the verdict was just yeah resulting
00:44:55
in the lower Court's ruling being upheld good now in the wake of her rescue Barbara spent a few days in the hospital
00:45:03
before you know going back home to her parents like I said and I had said like they just kind of were like get the [ __ ]
00:45:08
away from us um and they just kind of said like please respect our privacy but once a short amount of time had passed
00:45:15
Barbara did Grant a small amount of interviews where she talked about the experience after being abducted from the
00:45:21
motel she said she was in injected with a tranquilizer by her kidnappers where the [ __ ] did they get a tranquil answer
00:45:28
I don't know but Barbara said she was out in the woods and taken to the area where Christ had dug the pit and she
00:45:34
said I was woozy but I knew what was happening and she said I tried to talk them out of it but they paid her no
00:45:40
attention they didn't care about her please to please don't do this and instead they forced her to take that
00:45:45
photograph of her holding the kidnapped sign so that's why she looks that way cuz she's on tranquil yeah no it makes
00:45:51
sense um throughout her ordeal Barbara said she tried to keep her mind off of the terrifying potential of how this
00:45:57
situation could end by thinking of her friends her family like we said singing to herself singing Christmas carols
00:46:04
trying to make herself laugh she said but the reality of being in the Box was unavoidable she said it was cold it
00:46:10
leaked it kept dripping from above 83 hours 83 hours and she said on the fourth day when she was rescued by FBI
00:46:20
agents she said I could hear footsteps I thought it was the kidnappers coming back for me I'd been there so long I
00:46:25
really didn't care and when she was pulled from the coffin the first thing she asked the agents was how are my
00:46:31
parents oh yeah and they they said that was the first thing she cared about was how are my parents that's amazing um and
00:46:38
she said it was only after she looked around at their faces that she realized like how relieved she could be and she
00:46:43
said they were all crying like all the agents were balling their ass I can't imagine and after giving a few
00:46:49
interviews Barbara was determined to put the entire experience behind her and just move forward I don't blame her but
00:46:54
2 years later she partnered with Miami haral writer Jean Harold on a book about her kidnapping and following its
00:47:01
publication she vowed that I'm not revisiting this story again yeah um and that book is called 83 hours till dawn
00:47:10
uh you can find it still today must be named after there are but yeah in 1971 this is my favorite part of the
00:47:19
story Barbara married her best friend Ste Stuart Woodward yes and I was so happy I love that I was like that's her
00:47:28
man I love that just the fact that he like sat with her mom and who even knows how well he knew her what a good dude oh
00:47:36
my god wow and they moved back to Florida where they started a family shut the [ __ ] up and they made a concerted
00:47:42
effort to stay out of the public eye yeah unfortunately Stuart passed away in 2013 but they did have like a a lovely
00:47:49
life together good I love love that she married him that's my favorite part 1971
00:47:55
they got married [ __ ] yeah was so [ __ ] happy when I read that I was like that's what I need for my Barbara
00:48:00
that's what I need that's what Barb Barbara deserves a Stuart she did Stuart was the guy man hanging out all day
00:48:06
studying with her going to her dorm to get her notes the whole time I was reading this for the first time I was
00:48:11
like what a good guy like I love this guy seemed like a stand up and at the end I'm like they get married wow and
00:48:17
start and they have a family they had they had kid like it's great I'm so happy that she [ __ ] Queen to say I'm
00:48:24
going to write this book cuz like this is a story that's be told and then I'm done I'm going to move on like she's a
00:48:30
strong individual that's crazy good for her good for her wow what a [ __ ] story oh I'm not even done what you
00:48:39
thought I was done I sure did you thought it just ended there I mean yeah kind of so that was in 1971 they got
00:48:47
married like she's off she's happy yeah in the summer of 1973 Gary Chris tried to escape from the Georgia Diagnostic
00:48:55
and classification Center by crawling through the air conditioning ducks and hiding inside a large garbage bin where
00:49:01
he was then loaded onto a truck to be removed from the grounds Gary the attempt earned him he did get caught and
00:49:07
he was he got an additional two years on his mandatory minimum so he had to do nine instead of seven in May 1979 he uh
00:49:16
was paroled that's [ __ ] nuts from Georgia's Reedsville State Prison much to the disappointment of Atlanta
00:49:23
residents ah yeah yeah Superior Court Judge ho Hu ber said I just don't think he'll ever change giving the nature of
00:49:29
the case burying the girl in the ground like he was like what the [ __ ] regardless of how the public felt or the
00:49:35
judge felt the state's parole board felt justified in their decision that's very
00:49:40
interesting they said there is nothing in our files to indicate Gary Steven Christ is violent or
00:49:46
dangerous how about the part where he buried a girl in a box underneath the ground is that you guys are just
00:49:52
forgetting that part you guys are not very demor you're not very mindful no not at all and they said if he does
00:49:57
commit a crime it won't be a crime of violence how do you know and they went on to further justify their decision by
00:50:04
uh minimizing his original crime ready ready for what the parole board said never Mrs Woodward suffers no lasting
00:50:14
Trauma from the ordeal Mrs Woodward meaning our girl Barbara because she's my now she doesn't
00:50:21
give a [ __ ] about you guys but [ __ ] you guys and also how do you know who the
00:50:25
[ __ ] do you think you are did you contact her they're literally like he's not violent and she's fine so wow wow
00:50:33
gross wow gross to everyone's surprise Gary Chris did make an effort in the beginning to show the world that he had
00:50:41
turned around yeah the conditions of his parole required him to initially move back to Alaska by and in 1983 he was
00:50:49
accepted into medical school at the University of Washington after completing his program
00:50:55
and earning a medical degree he struggled to find a state that would Grant him a license cuz like I'm sorry I
00:51:00
just have to ask the the the the charge that he serve time for that's a felony right yep can you Can your doctor be a
00:51:09
[ __ ] felon uh that's what I was a little EXC about that's why he was struggling I think to find somebody that
00:51:16
would give him a license um and then in December 2001 the state of Indiana granted him a
00:51:24
probationary license to practice medicine you said what state Indiana let's not go there yeah and he opened a
00:51:31
private practice in the Tiny Town of Chrisney yeah yeah it's yep so um now in the months leading up to and immediately
00:51:41
following his parole period he found a number of people that were willing to vouch for him and assure his critics
00:51:48
that he had changed for the better um and in fact it was because of these people that the parole board even
00:51:54
considered releasing him like they were really part of it uhhuh but for every one person that was insisting he was a
00:52:00
better person there was twice as many who were like no no no no incorrect sorry I just hit my microphone I'm so
00:52:05
mad she said said no no no no I slapped my microphone of the way that's the end it was twice as many that would say no
00:52:11
no no he's a narcissistic con man and like it's going to turn out bad um with a year of opening his practice he kind
00:52:20
of proved the critics a little right uh in the fall of 2002 after less than a year after receiving his probationary
00:52:27
license to practice medicine the licensing board pulled his license for failure to comply with the supervisory
00:52:33
requirements writing his own supervisory reports and forging his supervisor's name in addition to the lies and fraud
00:52:42
related to his license there were other incidences that also uh led to this in one he reportedly told a 13-year-old
00:52:51
patient with an eating disorder that she quote had a big butt oh my God another occasion records show that he told a
00:52:58
woman who'd recently been diagnosed with HIV that quote her boyfriend must be thrilled oh my God during this perod
00:53:06
that's why doctors probably shouldn't be felons no and during this period he was
00:53:10
also accused of sexual assault by a patient um and he fled the state before facing
00:53:16
prosecution wow so he was stripped of his license he returned to Alaska now and began finding various other means of
00:53:23
making money both legal and illegal I'm sure in March 2006 US Customs agents raided his boat in Point Clear Alaska
00:53:32
and found 37 lbs of cocaine on board that's a lot of cocaine that's a lot of that's all of the cocain all the cocaine
00:53:43
okay Pablo Escobar the [ __ ] he also they also found four South Americans who had
00:53:49
paid Christ $6,000 each to illegally smuggle them into the country who the [ __ ] is this guy I don't
00:53:57
no how do you I just got to know I'm not even done oh God I just got to how do you like get a life and like do that
00:54:05
with it like that's you're out here with a life doing this I don't understand it TR it's cool
00:54:16
that we all got lives like I'm excited about it I don't know how it happened I mean I do but like we don't need to get
00:54:23
into the skinny of it all but that's what you do with it I'm just out here trying to have a good time legally make
00:54:31
some [ __ ] yummy treats every now and again and like I don't know enjoy [ __ ] it I mean really he was out there trying
00:54:39
to enjoy [ __ ] too but like but like Works smarter not harder like what are you do he's doing so much just chill out
00:54:46
he's doing so much just chill the [ __ ] out chill the [ __ ] out and go the [ __ ]
00:54:50
away be like go away like sir well I feel like he's just somebody that should live on a boat by himself just go live
00:54:57
on an island you're right on a boat no one needs to see you that's just Vibe just do your you know go on a boat you
00:55:04
know like here's 10 bucks see you later 10 bucks all right go ahead do they what
00:55:08
you will anyway keep going now when they caught him with the uh with all the pound of cocaine on his boat uh they
00:55:16
served a warrant at his Georgia residence that he had kind of just up and abandoned sure uh they found a giant
00:55:23
underground drug lab what like a meth lab like a huge one or like just like all the
00:55:30
drugs manufacturing it all Mur kod I think his name is was quoted as saying basically there was a trapo it was wood
00:55:37
covered with lenium unless you knew you were looking for something you wouldn't notice it there was an 8ft ladder that
00:55:43
led down to a 27t long lab underground what had a countertop at one end there was ventilation there was a it was glass
00:55:52
enclosed things it was fully equipped with light electricity water and it had an escape tunnel that led into a covered
00:56:00
Barrel about 50 ft from the lab what you can't make that [ __ ] up yeah who the f I mean I got wow they
00:56:10
said he was like mega mind he was like Mega like crime Lord at this point like just he's a drug lord Now isn't he I
00:56:19
don't really know what makes one a drug lord to be honest s like it fits though like I I feel like 30 something pounds
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of cocaine will he's doing it all he's doing it all he's doing all the things the [ __ ] the new charges earned him an
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almost 5year sentence that's it but not long after being released in 2010 he violated the terms of his probation and
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was sent back to prison in 2012 and stayed there until he was released until in July 2015 how old is this
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[ __ ] at this point he's 79 right now okay wow what and he's probably still out here huh he's still out here
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he's still alive um yeah and I know he's just you know apparent apparently he got tired at that
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point 2015 he was let out and nobody's really heard from him since then you guys better keep your [ __ ] eyes
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peeled into the newspapers yeah he's 79 I'm like damn you build a [ __ ] 8 foot down 27 feet wide or long how whatever
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the [ __ ] you want to call it drug lab you're not I mean yeah yeah you're not just chilling out
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after that and now that's the case of the kidnapping of Barbara Jane mael I got to say you really popped the [ __ ]
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off with that one Dave was so correct when he was like yeah you got to take a look at this he texted us one day and I
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was like oh yeah that sounds interesting I look into it and I looked I was like whoa hello I'd like to report several
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crimes throughout the span of it is 60 70 809 like he that's like a career Criminal 100% literally like 5050 years
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of crime the only good thing is in the end Barbara just came out like got married with Stuart wrote a book and off
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she went had her family you know W yeah that's really crazy yeah I wow it's what
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a tale it's a that's why it had to be told in two episodes because it's just like you think the that the the most
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action is happening with with like the kidnapping and the ROM and all that there's just so much happening and then
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it's like oh wait we haven't even scratched the surface of what happens here wow
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yeah wow so that's a taale what a a [ __ ] tail what a tale we you better keep we don't even hope at this point
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you heard that you're not going to keep listening keep listening we hope you do I even say that what is going on keep it
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weird keep it so weird that you forget your own outro it's been a long time I don't know I'm riding out on a am it's
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been a long time we did it the same day but no I said it's been a long time like
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doing this I mean I don't know you know you do something so much and then you're
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just like how do I do this yeah you know we're six years in bye bye yams y [Music]
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