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Hey, weirdos. I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And this is Morbid. It's special Morbid because it's
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listener tales. And it's brought to you by you, for you, from you, and all about you. I know that
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we say this every time we have a listener tale, but now that we only do um we're only allowed to do one every
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what is it? I don't even know. Every month, I think. Every month, I think it is. It feels so
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far between listener tales. I know, it really does. I wish we were allowed to do more.
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Yeah, cuz they're fun. And you guys liked them. But, you know, here we are. All's well that ends well, I suppose.
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So, it's spooky season. So There you go. So, we uh we picked one that feels pretty spooky, I think.
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Inspired, I would say. I would say steal. And I'm going to start with one that's titled listener tale, what the
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[ __ ] [ __ ] did I see? I hope you tell me cuz I don't know. I wasn't there. so. And this one begins spooky tidings,
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queens. Spooky tidings. I love that. Attached is a photo of what I saw when I was a wee [ __ ] that is
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seriously disturb disrupting my current mental stability. Now, I'm sharing it with you because I don't want to be
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awake all all night alone. You're welcome. It's nearly four double-spaced pages because I'm a wordy dumbass.
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You're not a dumbass, don't you dare say that. But, I have color-coded my tangents in purple in case you want to
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shorten the story. Wow. I love how organized some of you guys are. Most of you guys. You guys are
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on it, you are. Like your listener tales are on it. are the kind of people that in school
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they have those little like um highlighter tabs for each section of the book, and I always used to be so jealous
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of those people. I'd be like, "Wow, I want to be like you." You guys are inspiring. You are. Uh
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also, there's a little message at the end to you guys that you can decide what to do with. Best witches, Sarah. I see
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what you did there. I like that. Love you, Sarah. It says, "Hello, you can use my name,
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which is Sarah, because one, I am out and proud spooky [ __ ] and two, because pretty much every white woman my age is
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named Sarah, so I could literally be any white middle-aged [ __ ] on the cul-de-sac.
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Obsessed. You can also use my spouse's name because he picked it when he transitioned, and we're [ __ ] proud of
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it. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I've always been fascinated with ghost stories and haunted houses
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ever since growing up in a giant centuries-old farmhouse as a kid. I'm sorry, are you me? I know. I don't
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believe in ghosts. Ooh. Interesting. Wow. I don't believe in ghosts, but I love spooky stuff. Uh but again, and
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this is important, I honestly do not think they are. Just so you know where I'm coming from in this story. Until I
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was about eight, I did believe in ghosts, and I 100% thought that the house was haunted. But by the time this
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story happened, I'd be been convinced by my very not woo-woo family I was just imaginative.
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No, it was ghosts. Below is a story that has made me question their assessment and what
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really happened to me post-Halloween day in this house. Ooh, the plot is still thin. Yep. And it
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says, "Along with all the side quests, because I have the attention span of a raisin.
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So, back to this house, just so you understand how [ __ ] creepy this place was 10 miles outside the nearest town,
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which was tiny, population 1,500, which by the way is equal to the number of people who perished in the Titanic
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disaster. So, every time I hear about the Titanic, I entire I imagine my entire hometown floating around dead in
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the ocean because my brain is a haunted attic, and I live there. I have to live there. Our nearest neighbor was a farm
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was a farm a mile away. When I say I was isolated, I mean capital I isolated. In
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the winter, the pipes regularly froze, and so we had to walk out to the barn to pump water out of the well like [ __ ]
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pioneers. When the goddamn well froze because we live in Minnesota, which everyone says means clear water in the
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Dakota language, but I really wonder if it actually means the [ __ ] horse died, so guess we have to live here now.
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And they just don't want to say that. So, when the well froze, we had to melt snow to get water for cooking, drinking,
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and bathing. Oh my. And keep in mind, I did not live in ye old times. I was born in 1977.
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So, I am the ass end of Gen X and nearly a millennial. I was not the haul water from the well generation, and yet there
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I was. The day after Halloween, when I was around nine years old, I was chilling at
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home by myself because my parents had to work, and in the late '70s, if you were
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old enough to dial 911 in case you died, you were old enough to stay on your own.
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I think my mom had that same thought process in the 2000s. Eek. So, I was sitting on the extremely antique bed in
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my parents' room, which is the same bed my grandfather died in about 11 years earlier, which we were not rich, so you
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didn't let a thing like a dead person spoil a perfectly good and very valuable bed. Oh my, my, my. Also, because I know
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you want to know this, no, we did not buy a new mattress, thank you very much. I wish you could see my face right now.
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I love you. I am shook. So, I'm sitting there on the corpse mattress, and suddenly I feel
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spooked and look over towards the doorway of the room, and there's a silhouette of a man standing there
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holding what appeared to be some kind of hatchet or axe hanging by his side. That's never good. I don't know if
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you've ever been so scared your hands tingle? That's how scared I was. I could not see features. It was just a
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dark shape of a person with the sun behind them. I'm very surprised I did not scream or piss my pants because I'm
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pretty sure that is what I would do now, but apparently nine-year-old me was a better adult than 45-year-old me. So, I
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just looked at this guy and said slowly to him, "I'm going to close my eyes and count to
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10, and when I open them up, you are going to be gone." Wow, look at you just taking [ __ ] charge at nine, for real.
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And that is that is what I did. I closed my eyes and counted out loud, "One Mississippi, two Mississippi," and so
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on. After I hit 10 Mississippi, I opened my eyes, and there was nothing in the doorway, and I just went on with my
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life. I love that that ghost was just like, All right. He was like, "Oh, sounds good. He was like, "I know who's
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calling the shots around here." Yeah, he was like, "All right, enough said." I just thought I'd imagined it
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because I was recently converted to my family's belief that I was just imaginative. It is an entire different
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story, but my mom had recently told me stories of how she used to see her deceased brother in dark rooms as as a
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child. Uh or excuse me, uh her deceased brother in dark rooms a child and young woman, and that is how she got these
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hallucinations to go away. Huh. Holy hell. So, she saw her deceased brother in dark
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rooms when she was a child and as a young woman. Oh, I see, I see, I see. Um and that's how she got these
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hallucinations to go away, she said. And and she says quote-unquote hallucinations.
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and she got them to go away that way, but they were ghosts. I'm not so sure. So, that was that. I
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once imagined a person in a doorway, and I counted to 10, and they went away just
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like my mom told me it would happen. Clearly just a combination of too much candy, the Halloween vibe, and my
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overactive imagination. That is until fast-forward to me at 43 realizing I have a condition called
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aphantasia. Aphantasia? Aphantasia. Aphantasia. I was like, "Aphantasia." This condition means that I have a
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complete inability to voluntarily generate mental images. Wow, I've never heard of that.
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fascinating. That is. I literally can't see things with my imagination. You know what?
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I think I saw it, and this is I'm connecting it to TikTok, of course. I think I saw a TikTok where someone's dad
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had that. Really? And they were like trying to have their father conjure an image of them when he closed his eyes,
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and he couldn't do it. Wow. having trouble conjuring an image of them. That's so interesting.
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So, I have heard of this, and it is fascinating. And I wonder if it I I mean, maybe
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you'll tell us more, but I'm like, is that frustrating or you cuz but you've never had that.
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had it, so So, I guess it wouldn't be a problem. Unless people like other people tell you
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what it's like to imagine images, and then you're like, "Damn, I wish I could do that." Damn, that's just wild. I
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know. So, suddenly, as I was sitting there talking to my spouse, who does not have aphantasia, about what it's like to
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have absolutely no mind's eye, how I could not visualize anything when I closed my eyes during guided
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meditations, how I had said I had an imaginary friend growing up, but I could never imagine what they looked like,
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suddenly I went cold. Very quietly, I said, "Micah, I can't see things with my imagination." Suddenly, it dawned on me
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that the guy in the doorway, I could not have imagined him there. I literally can't see with my imagination.
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Whoa, I just got a chill. Now, it isn't proof that there was a ghost standing in the doorway as some Is
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it This is people with aphantasia, so aphants? Probably. I think it is. With schizophrenia, do
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experience visual hallucinations. And we are just as likely as anyone else to catch a glimpse of something and not see
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it correctly. Like when you catch a glimpse of your clothes on the floor and think it's a dead body. Just me? No,
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just you. Also, unlike some I I hope it's aphants. I feel like it probably is. I do see visual images in my dreams,
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but I was not asleep at the time. I'd been sitting there reading, looked up from my book, and saw it. And after it
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was gone, I went back to reading. You're a badass nine-year-old. I've never had a hallucination before or
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since in my life, and I didn't glimpse that thing. I looked at it long enough to say an entire sentence out loud to it
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before closing my eyes and counting to 10. So, while I still refuse to believe in
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ghosts, Sarah! Sarah! I think there are things that happen that we have not scienced out
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yet. Okay. And once we do science them, they will all make sense. I do wonder what the [ __ ] happened to me
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that day in late fall and what it means for my skeptic status. Well, that's what
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I wonder. That's the thing. I think if you want to look at it from a scientific point of view,
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Which I enjoy. Which Yeah, I know you love that. And I think it helps to think of it as trapped energy. Yeah. You know?
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Like ghosts as trapped energy. Cuz you say you still refuse to believe in ghosts. I think I'm like a little
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looser with my skepticism, like that when I look at things because I want to believe in ghosts.
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Yeah. And I do think there's there's something there that I don't understand. And I do
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think something happens after someone's gone. Cuz a ghost blew in your ear. Exactly. So, that's the thing. So, I I
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100% am open to And I think ghosts Sarah. I think I think we can science you back into this. I feel like
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it. I think ghosts are pretty science-y. Yeah, I think they're super biological.
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Super biological. Supernatural biological. Supernatural. So, to close, I may have
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seen a thing I have not believed in since I was in first grade, or for one day in 1986, I had a very vivid visual
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hallucination of a creeper with a hatchet. Also, as an elder alphabet mafia, I would like to say that if
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you're a millennial, Gen Z, or Gen Alpha, Gen Alpha, what are you doing here? This is not suitable for your
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little baby ears. And your parents are shitty about you being in the alphabet mafia, I am your
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new mom, and my spouse is your new dad, and we love you and very proud. We got you. We 100% got you. Sarah! Oh my god,
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I love you. Sarah forever! Oh, I love it. I love it so much. It says, "Alaina Nash, if you want to share my email for
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our little rainbow babies who need us, we're okay with that." Sarah, you saw a ghost, and I feel like So, it sounds
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scary because that person was, you know, uh carrying a hatchet or an axe. Yeah, I was scared. But, you said that
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you lived in an old farmhouse, so maybe it was just somebody whose job used to like go out and do some farm [ __ ] Yeah.
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Cutting [ __ ] with an axe or hatchet, and they were kind of It's like a residual
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haunting where they were just trapped in like the pattern of their daily life. Yeah. You know?
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And maybe they like saw that you were a kid, and you were like, "I'm going to close my eyes, and you're going to go
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away." And he was like, "Oh, [ __ ] Like, I was Like, I didn't mean to scare you.
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just going out to chop some wood. I didn't mean to freak you out." And then he just like bopped outside. And maybe
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it was like a thing like in Beetlejuice when like he saw you, and he was like, "What the [ __ ] is this kid doing in my
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house?" And you were like, "What the [ __ ] is this man doing in my house?" like, "I'm going to go outside." And you
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were like, "I'm going to keep reading." And maybe you both just went about your lives. Maybe he was like, "I just saw a
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ghost." Yeah. You don't know. Whoa. But, Sarah and Micah for the win. For Like I'm That's That's cool. I like you
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guys. I like you guys a lot. you guys. I feel you. My heart went out for you guys. Hell yeah.
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Or two out cuz there's two of you. For for mom and dad. Mom and dad. For mom and dad, Sarah and Micah.
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mom and dad. Oh, that was a good one. Thanks, Sarah and Micah. All right. So, my next one is the time I got yeeted
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into a cemetery by an almost invisible man. Listener tale. Ooh, I'm in. And let me open the doc. It says, "Hey, best
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friends. My name is Bethany, and I'm obsessed with your podcast. I like your name." Hell yeah. "Morbid is pretty much
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the only one I listen to. Thank you." god. "I tried hard to get into other ones, but you ladies just take the
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cake." god, I love cake. Thank you. going to say that. I love cake, too. "The way you guys present the material
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in such a funny way while also showing respect and tribute to the victims is one of the reason is just one of the
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reasons I love y'all." Thank you. "My wife, Katie, and I listen to you every time we get in the car. What's music
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anymore?" I love you guys. That's how I feel about Watch What Ha- Uh Crappens. Yep. It's like all I listen
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to. "Uh I doubt you guys will ever do a live show in boring ass Illinois, and I said
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that on purpose. Oh. But, it's just a silly joke. That made me upset. Good. "But, I hope to attend one
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somewhere soon. Unfortunately, this is not a put a foot up because technology, but I still used an easy font to read,
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and it's double spaced. Sorry in advance for any grammar mistakes. I have a psychology degree, not an English
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degree. Haha. Hope you ladies enjoy, and I hope to hear this on the podcast soon.
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I have several other stories I'll be submitting as well." Hell yeah. "Well, here we go. The time I almost got
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yeeted into the cemetery by an almost invisible man. Once upon a time, I lived in one of the
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smallest, most redneck towns I have ever ventured into. This town was nicknamed Crossroads of
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America because of all the interstates intersected here. The ones running north and south, as
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well as the ones running east and west. The mix of local rednecks and out-of-town truckers always made things
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interesting in the way of stories, at least. Before I moved to this magical place made up of cornfields, churches,
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and low-class sleazy bars, I already had a little knowledge of some of the town's
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history because I had friends that had lived there their whole lives and had told me hundreds of stories. One of the
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most Or excuse me, one of the places I initially heard a lot about was a place called Casbar Cemetery. Supposedly, it
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was haunted. Me, coming from an extremely extremely religious family, had never really believed in anything
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supernatural. A theme. A theme emerges. Always. And I always questioned people who told
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me stories claiming to have experienced or interacted with ghosts and spirits. Almost everyone I knew had some kind of
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crazy story about this place. No matter who told me the story or who they were with or how much they swore crazy things
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happened there, I still refused to believe it. No matter how many times I heard about some supernatural
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experience, I still wasn't convinced. Until the day I decided to find out for myself.
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It was a typical evening in Effingham, Illinois. Why does that Like, I love saying that. It's just like Effingham.
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Effingham. That's great. Like effing him. I love it a lot. Effingham. We were all bored as hell and itching
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for something to do. I've been and Sorry, I've been an everyday weed smoker since I was 18, so that was my usual
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form of entertainment. My friends would come over, and we'd smoke at my house, outside my house, in the car, on the way
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to go somewhere, and anytime in between. We always managed to find ourselves on some sort of crazy fun adventure, even
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if it was just driving down back country roads, smoking, listening to music, and
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stopping at cool places to take pictures. Occasionally, we'd go geocaching. Geocaching.
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Geocaching. We were down for anything. So, when the subject of Casbar came up, I was
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starting to regret having such an open-minded, spontaneous friend group because I knew they would all want to
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go, and all of them had been before multiple times. Now, I consider myself a pretty badass [ __ ] and there aren't
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many things I'm scared of, but ghosts and spirits, hard [ __ ] pass for me. I'm always the most chill, laid-back
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person in a group, so everyone knew I would eventually cave. After about 30 minutes of relentless begging and
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coaxing me, I finally decided I'd go. What the hell? I wasn't really It wasn't really haunted
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anyway, so what was the worst that could happen? Always the best question to ask.
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I know. It's always interesting to be What did you just do? Oh, Baphomet just stabbed my [ __ ]
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foot, dude. I don't think we should put it on Baphomet. I think you struck him with
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your foot. strike him with my foot, and it hurt so bad. I don't even care if you leave it
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in, but [ __ ] that hurt. We have a little [ __ ] Oh my god, I just became the sacrifice.
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[ __ ] dude. Ow. Don't put it on Baphomet. I love that you were like, "Are you okay?" I was like, "He did not
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stab me." "My boy Baphy didn't do shit." You just stomped him. Oh, I did. Sorry, Baphy, but you should
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be sorry for being so spiky as well. Oh. He's sharp, so be careful. Yeah. He doesn't like to have his head
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booped. Well, you shouldn't have left him on the ground, okay? [ __ ] This was your fault. You're the worst.
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I hate you. I don't hate you. I don't hate you. Well, just to be clear. But, yeah, just also just to be clear,
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we have like a little statue of Baphy, and he was on the floor, and I like struck my foot down upon him. He didn't
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stab me. He did not. But, that hurt so bad. Yeah. Anyways. [ __ ] Damn. It wasn't really haunted. Oh, I
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was going to say, maybe Baphy was like, "Hey, don't talk shit." But, here I am. Sorry, Baph. So, I didn't learn.
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Uh it's always funny to me when people are like, "I don't believe in like haunted stuff. Like, ghosts aren't
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real." But, then they're scared to go to a haunted location. Like, you don't know
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what you believe, you know? I just always love the what's the worst that can happen. I'm like, well, the the
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universe is conjuring that for you now. [ __ ] around and find out. But, they said, "It wasn't completely dark yet, so
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that made me feel a little more comfortable." Yeah. "We all piled into the car and got
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our blunts rolled and our playlists ready. In the driver's seat was one of my best friends at the time, Jade. In
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the passenger seat was my wife at the time. We'll call her Casey. I was in the back seat directly behind the driver.
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I did just burp through that word. I'm sorry. And my other friend, Minnie, was in the back seat next to me.
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Although I was not happy about going, this group of people was a good one. Nobody did drugs besides smoking weed,
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which isn't a drug. Nobody had any type of mental health issues, and everyone was super chill and down-to-earth. I
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knew none of them would pretend they saw something that they didn't or purposely
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try to freak me out. Anyway, I reluctantly said, "Let's get this over with before it gets too dark." So, we
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headed out. To get to Casbar, you had to go out of town about 10 miles down curvy, narrow country roads. I [ __ ]
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love it. I'm into this. [ __ ] love it! Honestly, thinking back, it seemed pretty hidden. You wouldn't know it was
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there if you didn't know it was there. And probably for good reason, but did our stoned asses care? [ __ ] no. [ __ ]
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no. [ __ ] no. On the way there, of course, everyone started talking about all the crazy experiences they had out
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at Casbar. Red eyes staring at them from the middle of the woods surrounding the
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cemetery, hearing voices when nobody was there, having car problems while on the
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property, you name it. They all had at least three stories apiece about this place. Whatever, I still didn't believe
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any of it. You did. did. Once we got close to Casbar, the road quickly got narrower and narrower. It's
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almost like the road is like, you don't want to go here. like, chill. It's like, I don't know.
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Hanging crooked from a tree was a faded, barely legible sign that said Casbar Cemetery with an arrow pointing to an
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even narrower dirt road. Doesn't sound sketchy at all, right? I'm obsessed with this. I love it. We
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slowly turned down the road, and when I say narrow, I mean narrow as [ __ ] y'all. There was barely enough room for
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our car, and definitely not two. The road was dirt, and there was a ditch on either side that dropped down about 5
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ft. [ __ ] that. That makes me nervous cuz you feel trapped. Well, if another car's
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coming. Bethany said, that alone made me nervous. There you go. This road was probably
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about half a mile long and was surrounded by thick woods and trees that slumped over creating a blanket of
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leaves above us, making everything seem darker and creepier than it already was.
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As soon as we pulled onto the dirt road, the energy in the air felt different. Not necessarily bad or scary, just
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noticeably different. Because of the shape of the road, we continued on extremely slowly.
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A little relevant background info on the place. Casbar had been called haunted for years and years. It was very old,
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and nobody living in the area at the time had any relatives buried there. Well, maybe like generations ago, but
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nobody personally knew anyone buried there because the cemetery had been closed many years before any of us were
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even born. So, if someone was at Casbar, it was either to do something illegal or
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try to get something supernatural to happen. That's awesome, except for the illegal part.
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Because the property was known for drug use and other illegal activities, if the
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owner of the land saw anyone there, he would immediately call the cops. So, not very often did you run across anyone
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else out there. If you did happen to see someone, they usually dipped out fast as
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hell to avoid getting in trouble. That makes sense. Anyway, we were about halfway down this dirt road when this
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dark, medium-sized SUV started coming toward us. Anyone who was familiar with this road
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knew that it wasn't wide enough for two cars, and you had to wait for one car to
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go all the way down the road before another car could start coming the opposite way. There was nowhere on this
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road to pull over on the side or to get out of the way. At first, we figured the
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person coming toward us would realize the road was too narrow and reverse far enough for us to get past, but instead,
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he kept coming toward us, moving closer and closer to our side of the road. This is freaking me out.
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I don't like it. We had already moved over to the side as much as we possibly could. If we moved
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any more, we would have fallen down in the ditch. It was around dusk at this point, so
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although we could make out the color and shape of the car coming toward us, we couldn't get a clear picture of what the
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driver looked like. His face and head almost looked transparent. I don't know any other way to describe it. I could
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tell that he was white and had dark hair, but that was about it. He was staring straight at us through his
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windshield as he continued to get closer and closer to us. What was he doing? He
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could obviously tell he was about to run us off the road. When he was about 6 ft
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away from our car, he finally started slowing down, and I let out a sigh of relief. And then, something even weirder
00:22:57
happened. Even though the car was fine and had been driving perfectly fine this whole time, all of the sudden, the car
00:23:04
started veering to the right all by itself. The driver, Jade, was turning the steering wheel to the left, and it
00:23:10
kept pulling to the right. We had two choices: stop the car completely and risk having an interaction with this
00:23:15
creepy dude who had tried running us off the road, or continue driving and hope that we could make it down the rest of
00:23:20
the road without wrecking. After seeing the mysterious man had completely stopped his car at this
00:23:25
point, we decided to keep going. I can't even explain the pull we felt on the car. Someone or something was trying
00:23:32
to pull us off the side of the road, and hard. Between worrying about that and trying to figure out who this dude was
00:23:38
and why he was trying to run us off the road, my head was spinning. Finally, we made it to the end of the
00:23:43
road in to the end of the road into the entrance of the cemetery. There was a small little spot just big enough to
00:23:48
turn around to head out. We pulled in and sat facing the cemetery so we could keep a watch out for anything strange. I
00:23:54
was praying that nothing scary would happen. We were only there about 10 minutes when the SUV SUV SUV I don't
00:24:01
know what happened to me. So, when the SUV came speeding into the lot we were in and pulled up right next to
00:24:07
us, I would have [ __ ] myself. Yep. If it had been a cop, he definitely would have
00:24:12
gotten out of his vehicle to see what we were doing, and it was the same car that
00:24:16
had tried to run us off the road. As he pulled as he slowly pulled up perfectly parallel to our car and came to a stop,
00:24:22
our faces all turned white as if we'd seen a ghost because maybe we [ __ ] had. I think you had. I think you had.
00:24:28
To this day, I still cannot accurately describe the description of this man. Nothing does it justice. This man
00:24:33
definitely had a human body and features, but his face was really almost transparent. Very white, but
00:24:39
transparent-like. I feel like people say that about us cuz we're so pale. I was going to say, people say that about me
00:24:44
all the time. Yeah. His facial features were a little blurred, but we could definitely make
00:24:48
out that this was a that it was a man with dark hair, medium-sized, and driving a dark SUV. This thing kept
00:24:55
staring at us. It took all of 2 seconds for me to demand that Jade put the [ __ ] car into drive and get the hell
00:25:00
out of there. I wasn't sticking around to find out what was going to happen next. I hadn't expected to see anything
00:25:06
weird while we were there, let alone a man-like creature who seemed to be really unhappy with us. After a few more
00:25:11
seconds of staring, Jade finally put the car into drive and started to pull out of the cemetery and onto that god-awful
00:25:17
narrow dirt road. We got about 5 ft away from the other vehicle when he jerked his car into drive and peeled out in
00:25:23
order to get behind us, and quickly. This is when the panic really started to set in. This definitely was not the
00:25:29
owner of the cemetery or even someone visiting a grave. Who was he and why was he following us aggressively? The panic
00:25:36
was thick in the air, but we were all trying to stay calm to avoid freaking each other the [ __ ] out. This dude kept
00:25:42
following us, riding our ass. Like literally, he was almost touching our bumper with the front of his car. He
00:25:47
didn't honk, flash his lights, or use any hand motions to signal us to stop. So, what the [ __ ] did he want? To
00:25:55
terrorize you. Literally. Jade drove as fast as she could, but it was very difficult considering the
00:26:00
condition of the road. The last thing we wanted was to slide off the road or hit
00:26:04
anything forcing us to stop the car and dealing with whatever this dude wanted. I know.
00:26:08
Like, I'm feeling for Jade right now. Seriously, I'm also like, you're all stoned while this is happening. That's
00:26:13
like another level of panic. Sober you up real quick. Horrible. As I mentioned before, this road was
00:26:19
about half a mile long, and when you can only go 20 miles an hour and have to dodge potholes and animals, it can take
00:26:25
a while to get to the end. We didn't have too much further to go, but it seemed like a thousand miles. At
00:26:30
this point, we were all panicking. We were out in the country, alone at night with no cell service. What were we going
00:26:36
to do if he somehow caught up with us or got out of his car or even worse? In the
00:26:41
next 5 seconds, this dude got as close to the back of our car as he possibly could.
00:26:45
I'm sure he was actually probably touching the back of our car with his at this point.
00:26:50
It definitely seemed like he was trying to run us off the road as fast as possible.
00:26:54
Right when my anxiety hit the fan, I looked up in the rearview mirror, and the dude was gone. I mean, vanished. His
00:27:02
car was nowhere in sight when 1 second prior, he had been right on our tail. Remember, this road was so narrow that
00:27:09
it wasn't possible to turn around, and there were no other roads to turn down off this road.
00:27:15
He literally had been right there. What the [ __ ] I like that is terrifying. And to
00:27:25
terrorize you like right to the point and then just be like, bye. Bye. Just poof. The [ __ ] I announced to
00:27:31
everyone in the car that there was a no longer a creeper behind us. No one believed me until they rolled down their
00:27:37
windows, stuck their heads out, and saw for themselves. They all were as shook as I was as shook as I was. Where the
00:27:42
[ __ ] did he go? By this point, we had slowed down to a stop, still in shock. We sat there for a minute or two
00:27:48
thinking and going over what had just happened. We had all seen it. None of us were on any drugs besides the weed that
00:27:54
we had smoked, and we all recalled the exact same details. That is [ __ ] The end of the road was literally 50 yards
00:28:00
in front of us. Jade put the car in drive and sped to that the end of the road. We pulled out onto the paved road and
00:28:06
sat and waited. We didn't know what we were waiting for, but I think we were all hoping to discover some sort of
00:28:11
explanation, but the dude never came out. We waited for probably 30 minutes trying to see if he had reversed all the
00:28:17
way back to the cemetery or if he was eventually going to come out onto the main road, but neither happened.
00:28:23
It would be next to impossible to reverse all the way back down that road with all the sharp turns and potholes
00:28:29
and ditches. Did he [ __ ] vanish? Were we all tripping? Either way, we all decided right then
00:28:34
and there that we would never be visiting that place again. Although my friends had all
00:28:39
been there multiple times and had seen supernatural things happen, for some reason, this was so much scarier. I've
00:28:45
come up with so many explanations in my head for what I think could have happened, but honestly, I think Casbar
00:28:50
was truly haunted and that some force or spirit did not want us there that day. From the creepy dude trying to run us
00:28:57
off the road to the even more creepy unknown force trying to pull us off the road to the ghost-like transparent
00:29:02
mystery man tailing us and then disappearing, I've thought about this evening many times, many, many times,
00:29:09
and I will never know what truly happened, but it will always be an experience I will never forget. And next
00:29:14
time someone asks me to go with them to the haunted cemetery, I'll probably just
00:29:17
say no. Thanks for reading, ladies, and keep it weird, but not so weird that Take it
00:29:22
away, Ash. Not so weird that you got convinced to go to a spooky cemetery while you're super duper zooted, and you
00:29:27
drive all the way there, and you get ran off the road almost, and the guy disappears.
00:29:31
That was a scary [ __ ] tale. That was really freaky, man. That's a good little spooky tale right
00:29:37
there. I don't like it. I can't give you an explanation for that. Yeah, I really hate it, but I'm sure
00:29:44
that changed your view of of haunted things cuz cuz how do you explain that? Yeah, I
00:29:50
don't know how you explain that at all. at all. Damn, Bethany. Oof. I feel for you. I feel for Jade most of
00:29:56
all for having to drive, to be honest. I'm very I'm like Jade, are you okay? Yeah, that's traumatizing. That's a lot.
00:30:03
Having that on your shoulders, you're like, I can't make this fall into the ditch, cuz everyone will die maybe.
00:30:10
Like I just don't know. That's so scary. Damn. All right. Well, the next one is listener tale, the time a double
00:30:20
murderer stayed in my guest room for a week. Oh. Yeah. Just that. Hello Elena and Ash, I've
00:30:27
been binging your podcast for the past couple months and just had to share a few of my own experiences with you both.
00:30:33
The first is about the time my path my path crossed with a double murderer and segs into the paranormal. Well, I love
00:30:40
all this. Ooh. I look forward to hearing your reactions when and if you choose to
00:30:43
read this on listener tales episodes, but regardless, I know you two will appreciate the random collection of
00:30:48
events and happenings. Enjoy. Yay. PS, I'm also attaching photos of my current furry friends, Wesley, Jax, and
00:30:55
Chloe. Oh. Oh my god. All our rescues. Oh, I love it. I love them so much. Oh my god.
00:31:02
When you live in an 120-year-old house, I love that. And Jax is a Cheweenie. A Cheweenie.
00:31:09
That's a great a great name for a dog or a great name for a dog breed. Ooh, your
00:31:13
house is beautiful. Um I am going to censor this listener's name and also the name of the double murderer in here
00:31:21
because they did not specifically state whether we could use it and it feels a little precarious to me, so I
00:31:28
just don't want to put anybody in a weird spot. Yeah. Um so I m- Nicole That's my middle name.
00:31:36
There you go. I Nicole found myself listening to a listener tale today and realized exactly why I'm addicted to
00:31:42
listening to your podcast, especially the listener tales. See, I knew you guys love them.
00:31:46
I caught myself totally engaged while following a 3-minute discussion of whether peanut butter is savory or not.
00:31:53
When it clicked, I too have a stream of consciousness that makes absolutely random connections and leaps like you
00:31:58
two do and it feels so comfortable to just listen to yours. I love this constant loosely connected stream of
00:32:04
consciousness so much even so much even with this when the stories range from home
00:32:09
invasions to demon possessions, I settle in to listen to you to you Elena and Ash
00:32:13
and I feel like I'm wrapping myself up in a well-worn and favorite quilt that is the perfect texture and weight. I
00:32:19
think that might be the best compliment I've ever received. thing. We are your quilt. I also am such
00:32:25
a blankety girly. Yeah. Like as I put on like a blankety robe As I put my blankety robe on right
00:32:31
now, so that is a high compliment. great. I just got a really cute Halloween blanket that I'm going to get
00:32:37
you one of, too. And I meant to tell you that earlier. Thanks. excited. Yeah. I have a few stories to share with you
00:32:44
today and I guess I will do this in consecutive order because why not? I will start with the time a murderer came
00:32:49
to stay in my guest room for a week. I have to confess that I am Generation X and I used to listen to Art Bell. Think
00:32:55
mature white dude with a bent for conspiracy and the unusual on the radio. I I know who Art Bell is. Mhm. From
00:33:01
midnight to 2:00 a.m. when I couldn't fall asleep. Counterintuitive, I know, but I could fall asleep to stories and
00:33:07
interviews about ghosts, all things paranormal, as well as government conspiracies. The only stories that
00:33:12
truly freaked me out were the alien abduction episodes. For a couple weeks after those shows, I would constantly
00:33:18
jerk awake positive that I would be sucked out from my home through the closed windows to be probed and no
00:33:24
amount of blankets would save me. The point to my ramblings is my openness to all things strange and scary, which
00:33:30
you would think would have made me a little more discerning about who I allowed into my home.
00:33:35
Anyways, fast forward to several years later when I bought my first home. I had a guest room that occasionally was
00:33:41
used as such, but one day my cousin I'll say uh Zoe Zoe called me and asked if she could
00:33:49
rent the room as she just got a job in Calgary. I happily agreed as I was struggling with all the associated
00:33:56
associated expenses. Why was that so hard to say? Associated expenses. It's a lot of s's.
00:34:01
Yeah, associated expenses that I took on with homeownership and could use the rental income.
00:34:07
When Zoe moved in or perhaps in the phone call when she asked me to live with me, she told me in full
00:34:12
transparency that her boyfriend Carl Carl would not be moving to Calgary with her
00:34:20
had been charged that year with a double homicide of his landlords in British Columbia. Oh. In spite of them finding
00:34:26
his DNA on the tape used to tie them up, he was released eventually as there was
00:34:30
insufficient evidence to convict him. Blink, blink, blink, blink. Zoe assured me that of course he didn't
00:34:36
do it. I naively believed her and she moved in. Oh my, Nicole. do be there. A few months after my
00:34:44
cousin took up residence, all was going well and Zoe informed me that Carl, the murder suspect boyfriend, was coming to
00:34:51
Calgary to visit her and she asked if I was okay for him to stay in her room with her.
00:34:55
No. Accommodating soul that I am, I agreed to this as long as they were both okay with sharing her single bed for a
00:35:02
week. She assured me this was good with them and so he came to stay. The murderer? Nicole. Nicole. While Carl was
00:35:11
visiting, I did not see him hardly at all as they were busy both in my cousin's room and going on on the town.
00:35:16
The week passed with zero incidents and I think I only spoke to him when he first arrived. A few weeks passed
00:35:22
following Carl's visit and I came home after work and was visiting with Zoe at the kitchen table when I noticed a
00:35:27
business card laying on the table. I picked it up to read that it belonged to a constable of the RCMP, Royal Canadian
00:35:34
Mounted Police for non-Canadians. I was confused about what it was doing there and my cousin brushed it off as nothing.
00:35:41
I'd be like, you're putting me in danger, girl. Truly, the police officer had a few questions for her, likely
00:35:47
triggered by Carl's visit. She assured me that they were just asking her routine follow-up questions trying to
00:35:52
find out if he had shared any details about the murder with her. You know, the one that he didn't commit. during his
00:35:58
stay or anytime previously, but she assured me that, you know, as he had not murdered anyone, there was nothing to
00:36:04
tell. Again, I believe You're a good ass cousin. You're the best cousin. PS, hey to any of my
00:36:10
cousins listening, nah. Let me tell any of my cousins, I'm not that good of a cousin.
00:36:16
Not me, either. The next few months that Zoe lived with me, our landline had a hollow echo and this persisted until I
00:36:22
moved a year or so later. What? Were your phones tapped? 100%. out much later that while she lived with
00:36:28
me and for a time afterwards, my home was not only under surveillance, but our phone had been tapped as they still
00:36:34
believed they had arrested the right suspect, but lack of evidence to prove it yet. Yo. Zoe eventually moved with
00:36:40
Carl to Quebec and I learned a couple years later that she and the Carl had She and the Carl It says the. Yeah, she
00:36:47
I like that. She and the Carl had been befriended by a couple of undercover police officers as part of a Mr. Big
00:36:53
sting operation and the police finally were able to collect enough evidence, likely in the form of a confession, for
00:37:01
them to arrest and eventually convict him of double homicide. Um I forget the case where I learned about Mr. Big uh
00:37:09
sting operations, but I love that they're called that. Mr. Big, yeah. It was only then I found
00:37:14
out the details. He had brutally murdered the couple and attempted to obscure evidence by lighting the home on
00:37:19
fire. I Googled Carl again recently and found out that he will be eligible for parole in the next couple years.
00:37:26
Well, [ __ ] That is why we took out a small part that could have like kind of connected
00:37:30
it to what this is cuz again, I don't know if this listener would like to be connected.
00:37:35
Yeah, yeah. we're just looking out for you, girl. Just looking out for you. Uh I'm
00:37:39
grateful that I was as oblivious as I was during that time since it turned out okay. Yeah. I was not at risk cuz the
00:37:45
murders had been drug related, so the risk to my law-abiding person was really very low, but still jeez was I naive in
00:37:52
accepting to allow even someone who had been charged with murder into my home. I
00:37:56
mean, I actually shared a toilet and a shower with a convicted murderer and I am much more discerning now. That's
00:38:01
quite a thought. Damn. If that's not enough excitement in my life, let me tell you about how recently
00:38:07
a ghost showed up in our team Zoom meeting. I've been dying for that to happen and it never has. The company I
00:38:12
worked for returned to the offices in July of 2021. After almost a year of working from home
00:38:18
and like many offices, we continued to do staff meetings for the entire office staff by Zoom as we did not have a big
00:38:24
enough space to six sit 6 feet apart. Anyways, as bizarre as being back in the office in order to meet in person, but
00:38:31
then having to close our office doors to prevent echo while instead meeting on Zoom was, let's throw the office ghost
00:38:37
into the mix. Prior to the era we shall name work from home, we had several unusual occurrences in the women's
00:38:44
washroom. Our paper towel dispensers were battery operated, the kind you had to wave your
00:38:49
hand in front of to the sensor to activate. Mhm. Weekly at minimum and often more
00:38:54
frequently, I would be sitting in the stall for a few minutes and while no other person was in the washroom, the
00:38:58
dispenser would activate. Only the one on the left-hand side and only after it had been behind the closed stall door
00:39:05
only after you had been behind the closed stall door for a couple minutes. The right one never activated except the
00:39:12
normal way, but the left one would dispense so often that the battery drained several times during the time I
00:39:18
worked there and I don't recall the right side ever needing to be replaced. What the [ __ ]
00:39:24
Additionally, I had a couple of co-workers who used the middle stall, not my stall of choice, Me, either. who
00:39:29
were freaked out when the water in the toilet bowl became boiling hot while they were seated.
00:39:35
What the [ __ ] It wasn't until later that either one admitted this because they were afraid
00:39:40
of being called crazy, but the one coworker told me she even jumped up and held her hand closely above the water
00:39:47
and it was steaming hot. I'm like, you should probably tell someone about that. But I digress.
00:39:53
Anyways, following our return to the office, paranormal activity in the washroom increased and instead of just
00:39:59
dispensing a single sheet of paper towel, I noticed one particular day that there was a tall stack sitting on the
00:40:04
counter where it had dispensed several feet of toilet paper towel and while still connected to the holder, it was
00:40:10
neatly piled back and forth on on itself in a stack. I mean, okay. At least they're neat.
00:40:16
Yeah, you know. The building operator had decided at this time that they were tired of being called to replace
00:40:21
batteries, so instead to remove the automatic dispensers and replace them with the old-fashioned manual press to
00:40:26
release ones. At this same time, they also installed automatic flush toilets, so our resident ghost took to making the
00:40:33
toilet flush a second time after the stall was exited and we were about to leave the washroom. He's like, let me
00:40:38
one-up you. we got to really got to get this gone. I share all this boring run-of-the-mill
00:40:43
ghostly activity to explain what happened next. One fine day, about a month after being back in the office
00:40:48
full-time, we all jumped onto our respective computers to join the Zoom team meeting. Let me remind you that we
00:40:54
were all separated by our individual offices and had our doors closed. Mine was actually locked because I always
00:41:00
forgot to take off the automatic lock. This is important later in my story. Anyway, we were proceeding with the
00:41:05
meeting as per usual if a Zoom staff meeting can be termed usual when my boss interrupted the meeting to ask, "Can I
00:41:12
ask you all something?" Of course we all agreed and she went on to inquire if anyone else could see the man standing
00:41:18
behind Nicole. That would be me. I laughed it off and said that it was just the office ghost and also pointed
00:41:24
out the big emu picture hanging behind me saying, "That is perhaps what she had seen." Everyone had a good laugh about
00:41:30
the office ghost and we went on with the meeting. Later in the day, my boss and another
00:41:35
coworker were discussing the sighting and he finally fessed up that he had seen the same figure that had not any
00:41:41
that had not thought any but had not thought anything of it as he had been used to seeing various alive
00:41:48
family members pass in the background of his online students for so long that it didn't register. Oh.
00:41:55
So he's like, "Oh, I just thought it was somebody passing by." Right. My boss described seeing a man
00:41:59
come behind me and he bent over as if picking something up. My coworker then described seeing a man in a plaid shirt,
00:42:06
pants, suspenders, and a cap standing behind me before the man turned and exited out my doorway, which I will
00:42:13
remind you was not only closed but also locked at the time. And it's like you would have heard it open, so like, what?
00:42:20
walked through the door? Yeah, right. When I was telling our admin that what they said about what they saw, she also
00:42:26
admitted that a few minutes prior to my boss interrupting the meeting with her odd question and with all other staff
00:42:32
behind their respective all other staff behind their respective office doors plus visible on camera for the meeting,
00:42:38
a voice had called her by name from behind where she was seated two times and no one was there.
00:42:45
No client could have entered as the doors were locked because we were closed for the meeting and she would have seen
00:42:50
them enter anyways because her desk faced the entry door. Shortly after she heard a disembodied voice call her name,
00:42:56
my boss interrupted the meeting to ask about the man standing behind me on camera.
00:43:02
I wish that we had been recording the meeting as I cannot explain how only two people saw him and I was not one of
00:43:07
those people in spite of being the one that the ghost was standing behind. I later asked the local historian about
00:43:13
buildings on the property prior to the office building, which is about 30 years old. He told me that at the office
00:43:19
location had been a few homes in the early 1900s that had been chopped up in a smaller apartments and that it was
00:43:25
likely that there may have been a few single males renting any one of those apartments at one point.
00:43:31
I have always considered the office ghost to be a friendly sort and he always gave off helpful custodian vibes.
00:43:36
Oh. He was likely in my office fussing over a few things that had been lobbed towards the wastebasket and had not
00:43:41
quite made it in. I had even spent a few evenings alone at work catching up on files so I could
00:43:47
work while not being interrupted by coworkers and clients, but never once felt unsettled even when the janitorial
00:43:52
staff had finished and turned off most of the lights before leaving for the evening. Perhaps he was just watching
00:43:57
out for me. I like that. I like that a lot. Now, if that isn't enough strangeness,
00:44:02
let me tell you about the time my moon water leapt off my living room stool and spilled all over the floor. Not the moon
00:44:07
water. A few years back before I moved into my current home, I was renting an apartment
00:44:11
in an old building. I did experience a few odd things there and eventually I got the hell out after the final
00:44:16
incident, but I digress. During the pandemic, I started to become more spiritual versus religious and
00:44:22
began to explore my pagan roots. Hell yeah. Think crystals and moon water rituals,
00:44:26
etc. Oh, we know. On the second full moon in October, which so happened to also fall on a full moon in 2021, I
00:44:32
decided to make moon water. It was supposed to be a super potent falling It was supposed to be super potent falling
00:44:38
on this auspicious supermoon plus all Hallow's Eve. So I decided to use one of those big-ass pickle jars that holds a
00:44:44
couple gallons because of some if some moon water is good, well more is better, right?
00:44:49
Hell yeah. I made my moon water that night ensuring I put it away in my linen closet before the morning light hit it
00:44:54
because I was not sure how I wanted to use it yet and because, well, ADHD. I completely forgot about it until a
00:45:00
couple months later. Couple months later, I decided to clean out my linen closet and found the moon
00:45:05
water and proceeded to move it as far as my living room stool/ottoman where it sat for a few more weeks because if you
00:45:11
have ADHD and have ever cleaned out a closet, you know. Mhm. One day, while I was speaking with a client over the
00:45:17
phone, the jar leapt from the stool and proceeded to spill all over my living room floor. I shouted, dropped my phone
00:45:23
with the client still attached, and jumped up to grab towels to mop it up all while said client was wondering what
00:45:29
had just happened. I didn't have the heart to tell him that my moon water got tired of not being used and decided to
00:45:34
cleanse my living space space in one fell swoop. I had a few unexplainable experiences in
00:45:39
the same apartment and a few weeks after the moon water episode, I also had a very lovely visitation from a deceased
00:45:45
loved one that I had hoped to encounter for some years but never did until 2021.
00:45:50
That's beautiful. About 20 years ago, I adopted a lovely black and tan mini How do you say this one? Dachshund.
00:45:56
There you go, named Toby. Who was my soul dog. I have had dogs before him and since, but none I have
00:46:03
connected with quite like Toby. I mean, he licked my ankles dry when I got out of the shower and how can you replace
00:46:08
that? Toby had passed around the time period and I had been falling asleep listening
00:46:13
to late night radio with Art Bell and Art would interview people who had lost a beloved pet and had experienced a
00:46:18
ghostly visit from the pet after they had passed. I used to wish desperately that Tony would do Toby would do that to
00:46:24
me, but alas, he never did. Until he did. Fast forward to 2021 and I brought home a Chihuahua named Chloe to
00:46:31
foster because she bit everyone including me when she first met me. Chloe was and it says foster, quote
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unquote. Right. Chloe was more comfortable sleeping out in the living room following a good night snuggle, but
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Wesley and Jax, my other two dogs, preferred to sleep in my bed and touching me.
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Anyway, it was the wee hours of the morning and I was still half asleep and trying to decide if I could fall back to
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full sleep or if I had to stumble to the washroom to pee without waking myself up. Ugh, the worst.
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I remember smiling to myself cuz I could feel Jax down by my calves. Wesley had his usual roost up on my pillow wrapped
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around my shoulder and I could feel Chloe tucked in behind my knees under the blankets. I felt so loved and
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grateful that Chloe felt part of the pack enough to snuggle right in. Just then I heard a ticka ticka ticka of
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Chihuahua toenails on the laminate flooring as Chloe came from the living room and entered the bedroom.
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I reached down behind my knees and there was no dog there. I knew that even Toby had finally come
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for a visit and tucked himself into his favorite place under the covers in the crook of my knees. Ruin me.
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Later that week, while I was eating at a restaurant with a good friend who happens to see ghosts routinely, she
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stopped in the middle of what she was saying to look oddly at me and she told me there was a short-legged black dog
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around me in said restaurant and it confirmed that I was not losing my mind. I then told her what had happened
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earlier and she said, "Yes, he's watching over you." Oh. I will conclude this rambling episode with more one more
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weird story also related to the same apartment. About a year before I moved there, I smelled smoke off and on one
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evening for about 15 minutes. In spite of covering the entire apartment while sniffing like a bloodhound, I could not
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locate the source of the hot electrical smoke smell. I plug unplugged everything
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frantically and continued sniffing until my beat breaker blew suddenly. I discovered that my fridge, which had
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been closely wedged in an enclosed space, had likely overheated and cause and had short shorted causing the motor
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to blow. When I pulled the fridge out and looked, the hot wire had melted the insulated coating and melted right
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through, but thankfully tripped the breaker before starting a fire. Wow. This was inconvenient to be sure, but on
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on life went. A few months later, I was in a Zoom meeting as I was working from home at
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the time when I had a loud banging on my door down at street level. As I lived in
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the sketchy area, I never answered my door unless someone was texting that they were here and I needed to let them
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in, so I ignored the banging. When it happened again and louder, I threw up the window to shout down to
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tell them to leave me alone only to see faces looking at up at me and a fire rig
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parked down the street. What the heck? So I evacuated and let the fire department [ __ ] through my apartment
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looking for hot spots as the business downstairs could smell smoke, but no one could locate the source. It turned out
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to be a ballast in an overhead light in the business space below that almost started a fire, but they located and
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removed the light and all was good for a while. A few months later, I was again working
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from home and a repeat of loud banging occurred and it was very frantic, so I immediately stuck my head out the window
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to find out what the problem was. I saw upturned faces and people pointing up and screams to grab my dogs and get out
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that the roof was on fire. This time another electrical fire started, this time in the back
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apartments and flames were leaping from the windows to the roof. The back apartment had a dog that
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thankfully got out the window and to onto the roof and was rescued by neighboring business people. After that
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very traumatizing day and the third electrical fire incident, I decided I didn't need any further hints that I
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needed to move for real. I located a house to rent and now live in a 120-year-old heritage home on the edge
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of a park and walking trail. Ooh. With flower beds and grass and beautiful trees.
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We're charmed. my little home with badly painted walls and scratched floors and add-on washroom
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over what used to be a coal chute. Remember that indoor plumbing was only made common in all homes in the '40s and
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'50s. The energy here was has really felt lovely from the start, but I did smudge it upon moving in and
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I've never experienced anything odd in spite of the original owner reading tea leaves and tarot.
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I did notice that someone long before me had tied bells to both the screen door and the interior door and I wonder if
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that had been enough to warn away unwanted energies. Probably. I added my own touch, a
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beautiful broom which can be used to protect the doorway and sweep out unwanted energy when negative still
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alive people leave. Thank you for reading my odd assortment of stories as I'm sure this is the only
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place I can share all of them together without ending up on a 48-hour hold at a hospital.
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Keep it weird, but not so weird that you end up agreeing to host a murderer for a
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week and end up with your phone stabbed and under police surveillance. What a wild life you have lived, Nicole. My
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goodness. Holy [ __ ] Nicole. is wild.com. And yeah, like the the we took out the
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one little part where I kind of identified what murder this was just cuz I really don't want to connect this
00:51:18
person to it if, you know, You just don't know. Yeah, yeah. So, that was a wild story.
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Seriously. And damn, and your baby your little fur babies are adorable. I know, they're so cute and I love little
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Chihuahua. And I love your broom and your bells and your I Just that it's she showed us a
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little corner of her home and it looks like my [ __ ] dream. It's like cozy AF. Yeah. I love it. Do we have time for one
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more? I think we have time for one more. All right, I'm going to do listener tale, a ghost saved my husband's family,
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question mark. Ooh. And it has an attached photo of a Hell yeah. It says, "Hey morbid ladies, my name is
00:51:53
Paula and please say my name. Say my name. a Walter White reference. Sorry. Oh, I I got the wrong reference there.
00:52:00
You were Destiny's Child, you know, you know, we all have different thoughts. I'm a big fan of the podcast. Every day
00:52:05
when my daughter goes down for her nap, my earbuds goes in and your lovely voices grace my eyeballs.
00:52:10
Aw. I also wanted to say that I loved The Butcher and the Wren. Alaina, please write more. I did. She did.
00:52:16
Thank you. I received it the day it was released from my best friend who is a fellow
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morbid listener. Shout out Mallory, love you. We love you, Mallory. Mallory, too. Anyway, here goes. So,
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here goes my long tale about a ghost who saved my husband's family from a fire and also a myriad of other things that
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have happened to me over the last 34 years. I love that this is also like a mishmash
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episode of like, "I'm going to tell you all my tales and like spooky shit." I love it. Let's start from the beginning.
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It's the best place to start. My husband Rob's family bought an old house in the
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mountains of Pennsylvania surrounded by state forest land 34 years ago when my husband was born. They've used this
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house for a family getaway since then for hunting, fishing, four-wheeling, and a host of other things that would cause
00:52:55
you ladies to inevitably say, "Fresh air is for dead people." This house This house This house
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This house was built in the 1800s sometime and one of the previous deeds to the house stated that the owner would
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sell the house and land for a dollar as long as he could stay there until he died and he did. Nice. Awesome. Rob's
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whole family has stories upon stories of things that have happened in that house.
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My mother-in-law tells the story of when she was sitting on one of the old ass dirt original beds that they still have.
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Oh, old ass dirt, excuse old ass dirt. I was like a dirt bed? Old ass dirt original beds that they
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still have. You know, the kind that sink and creak and are on metal hospital box
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type springs. When she felt someone sit down next to her. She thought it was one of her kids
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who were little at the time. She looked around, nope, no one was there to which I say, "Why would you keep the original
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creepy furniture in this place?" Yeah, that's a that's a no for me. It's, you know, it's for the vibes. It's
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a no for me. She also has stories of thinking someone was downstairs making cake in the middle of the night because
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she smelled it. lovely. So, at least this ghost loves their carbs. Hell yeah. have also smelled things cooking to
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which I say, "Nope, nope, nope." See, I kind of love that. "Yes, yes, yes." you for filling my home with good smelly
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vibes." love it, an aromatic ghosty. Yeah. Then there is the apparition that my sister-in-law has seen off and on her
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whole life. In the living room, there's this big window that you can look out and see wildlife that may come down the
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hill as well as the fire pit. That's beautiful. She says she's seen a man sitting at the campfire when no one was
00:54:22
out there. She describes the man as wearing boots, flannel, and some type of worn brown pants and a brown hat. She
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says she's also seen him a second time in one of the bedrooms upstairs. This room called the ghost room for reasons
00:54:34
that I'll state later. Ooh. Let's not forget about the regular footsteps that are heard from everyone, myself
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included. Oh, and the time a neighbor who mows the lawn since our family doesn't live locally sitting on the
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porch one day after mowing and hearing furniture inside moving. Ooh. There was also the time my mother
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and father-in-law were laying in their bed and saw lights flickering across the ceiling. They didn't know the other one
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was awake and saw the same thing until the next morning when they both described what they saw.
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That's wild. Cabinets being opened in the morning upon waking up. The mantle in the living room has old items on it,
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one of which is a newspaper was a newspaper clipping. I forget what the front of it said. The front of it.
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Oh, the front of it said, excuse me. However, once my in-law once my in-laws found the same newspaper clipping
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picture floating a few inches from the ground, nothing around it. And it was turned so that you could see the back of
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it, which was an obituary reading. Ooh. That's wild. I attached pictures of this
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phenomenon. Ooh. Typical poltergeist activity, no big deal, right? No big deal. Oh, it is a
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big deal, guys. They tell then they tell these stories as if they're talking about a silly
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family cat that causes mischief and they laugh about it. Nuts, I tell you. That is nuts. She did You can't You put a
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picture. Can you turn it to me cuz I don't want to lose my place? Yeah, let me make it big.
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Make it big cuz I can't see. So, this is it. Oh my god. And then What the [ __ ] It's floating. That's a
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Matilda [ __ ] right there. Honey. So, this leads me to the main story, the fire. It was a cold Friday night in
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February and Rob's family was heading up to the house. This was in the '90s '90s.
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Kevin on TikTok. Of course. It was Rob's two parents, his grandmom, him and his two sisters, all
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who were little at the time. It was freezing upon arrival. This house has an old wood-burning stove in the living
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room, which is used to heat the whole house. So, as to be expected upon arrival, they got the fire going as they
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unloaded. After this was all done, it was after midnight and everyone was very tired. Around 2:00 a.m., grandmom woke
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up Oh, excuse me, woke everyone up saying there was smoke in the hallway. She'd been asleep and heard one of the
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kids coughing. She felt someone push her hard in the back and she figured it was
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the coughing child who came to wake her. As she turned around to see who it was,
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all she saw was the smoke-filled hallway. So, someone was warning her. Mhm. So, she ran to wake up the family.
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Every other family member was in their beds. No family member pushed her awake. Holy [ __ ]
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They got everyone up, called 911, and my father-in-law began trying to put out the fire, which had begun downstairs in
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the wood-burning stove. They didn't see open flames, just a just a lot of smoke where the pipe met the wall. The fire
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department came quickly despite this place being in the legit middle of nowhere.
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They put out the fire. The neighbor let the family sleep at his house and everyone was safe. The next day,
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grandmom told everybody what had happened and how she'd mysteriously been pushed awake, which could have very well
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saved everyone's life. Absolutely. That's wild. The room grandmom slept in has been called the
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ghost room ever since. It seems most activity has happened there, this being the biggest thing. No one ever sleeps in
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there, it's barely used. That is until my daughter was born in 2020 and we moved back to the northeast where we
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could visit frequently and take care of the house. That's right, I inherited the
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ghost house. Hell yeah. Me, who wakes Rob up every time I have to go downstairs to pee in
00:57:53
the night because I'm afraid. Now I'm the caretaker of this estate along with my husband. That's awesome.
00:57:59
I can do this. Yeah. So, my toddler I believe in you. it. I love that you're like, "I can do
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this." Like I am convincing myself right now. So, my toddler requires 340 things
00:58:09
plugged in to sleep, you know how it goes. White noise, monitor, night light, all
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the things. Yep. And this room has the most outlets. So, now we call it Addie's room. I don't
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know if I ever want to think of it I don't know if I ever want her to think of it as the ghost room. Nothing ever
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bad has come from all these occurrences, only good. I do, however, always feel like I'm looking over my shoulder and
00:58:30
always waiting for something creepy to happen with the baby monitor, but nothing yet. I feel like it's a good
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ghost. It like saved the family, so I feel like it's actually like a protective thing.
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entity. I wonder if it's the man who like loved that house so much and realizes how much your family loves it.
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"You know what? I'm going to keep everybody safe here." Yeah. So, this is the story of our
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mountain house in the Pennsylva- Pennsylvania wilderness. Jesus, sorry I couldn't say that. I attached a picture
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of the floating obituary as well as my daughter living her best life playing there.
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Adorable. I'm terrified of this place even though I hold it close to my heart and love it. We haven't had any
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occurrences in the last several years, so maybe whatever it was has finally been put to rest. Or maybe it was all in
00:59:09
our heads. Yeah, let's go with that. No way, it's protected. Never. Keep it weird, ladies, but not so weird
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that you buy a super old house with a creepy ass house deed and then decide to keep all the old creepy furniture inside
00:59:19
of it leaving whatever is haunted to stay comfortable amongst their own things and not so weird that when things
00:59:22
start happening to everyone, you just laugh it off and not do anything about it and just assume it's an angel or a
00:59:26
friendly ghost somewhere when in reality it could be something even worse and nothing bad has just happened yet, but
00:59:31
do keep it so weird that your a neighbor who lets a family come stay at your house when their house catches on fire.
00:59:35
All of that, but I still think it's a nice friendly ghost. I think so, too. I'm going to go with
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it. I think I think you're right. I think it's your daughter is so cute. is really so adorable. But I think it's
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your I think it's like the original owner. That's like, I love this house and you guys clearly love this house.
00:59:49
Yeah. to help you love this house. The floating obituary is wild. That's truly something.
00:59:55
a floating obituary there. Guys, you did the damn thing for October. You always do.
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do and I hope that we did too because I think we only have like one more October
01:00:06
thing for you. Yeah. So, party. Woo! Be safe on Hallow's Eve. Be safe. And be spooky and be awesome. And vibe
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forever. Keep sending listener tales. So, we hope you keep listening. And we hope you
01:00:21
keep it weird. But it's weird that you don't rock out for Halloween. Halloween.