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hey weirdos I'm Elena and I'm Ash and this is morbid [Music] it's morbid in the afternoon
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it hasn't been morbid in the morning for a while yeah because we're always doing
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like admin [ __ ] in the morning yeah and it's like kids going to school so it just gets chaotic in the morning now it
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really does the puppies are like yeah now there's puppies involved in the whole thing so our mornings start John
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and my mornings start at like 3 A.M now yeah so it's been a ride oh and by the way
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thanks everybody for mentioning Litter Mate syndrome I have gotten more messages than I can count about Litter
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Mate syndrome fun and I appreciate the concern I did research littermaid syndrome before I got these puppies so I
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know all about it we have a trainer we're very like on it that's when they get being separated with training and
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being separated with sleeping and all that good stuff they just snuggle together sometimes during the day the
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Litter Mate syndrome thing is when they get like two bonded and then they hate you yeah they they either like they like
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super bond with each other and don't bond with you or they get super aggressive with each other and can get
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like it can get like dangerous oh like they can get like too aggressive like leave each other yeah so we're we're on
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it you know my cat's just like sniff each other's face to be honest well Sydney and Blanche seem to dig each
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other yeah they're they're good Bros yeah they're good Bros I love them they can handle being apart right now so
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that's good yeah yeah we'll just keep it up dogs but thanks for everybody mentioning that I appreciate it but just
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know that I know what it is so I promise I know what it is no I thought I was too and then she took
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a breath yeah I really did and she looked at her page and I said oh what's what's coming and then nothing came I
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think I just forgot how to do this for a second which is bad it's been a busy week we've had a busy week we got to
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collab with Bailey saryan with the girls from red hand with the girls Hannah they all three of those gals are top
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[ __ ] Notch humans they really are let me tell you it's so weird though seeing that many humans within a one week
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period because we live a life where like we see each other our spouses and Mikey
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and that's literally it and the it's even weirder because we have collabed with Bailey before
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internet and like we feel like we know each other and then we got to do it this time in person right so we were like
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we're meeting each other but like we're not meeting each other because we know each other yeah but it was very strange
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and then red-handed was in person too so it was like we're usually doing these things on Zoom so it was a whole week of
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in person getting to hang with pod friends it was great it was just wild like I forgot how to act for a minute
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yeah I always forget headache I was like oh hi yeah oh okay weirdos and then they're like um this is
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life like ash are you broken like oh hey weirdos what's going on they're like that one me checking out at Target I'm
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like hi oh yeah keep it weird bye like short circuit everywhere that's who we are no I feel like a robot
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sometimes but don't we all yeah don't we all yeah I'm trying to think if I have any uh any more I'm I'm sure I'll have
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more Tick Tock shout outs for you guys like in the next episode I haven't been on Tick Tock as much yeah that's fun but
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I'm gonna get back on to it so I'll have some more for you because it's fun to shout out Tick Tock people did you see
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Tom Sandoval and Watch What Happens Live last night oh no God no time's like excuse me you
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were like no I didn't no that happened in an alternate universe yeah no Tom Schwartz was on Watch What Happens Live
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and he told people to hug Tom no Tom Schwartz was on and he told people to hug Tom Sandoval if they saw them
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and did you see Lala's response to that no but she said we're not gonna hug him we're gonna atomic wedgie which I was
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like yeah that's pretty pretty epic don't put your hands on anybody else but but Atomic wedgies I like it
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that I mean welcome to VPR corner for a second but man I can't wait for that reunion guys and it's not happening
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until like the end of May I know you keep telling me that and it's almost like you punch me in the face every time
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well it's because if I remember it I feel like I've been punched from within my face so then I have to outwardly
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punch you in the face but like figuratively yeah you know it makes me sad though I don't want to wait that
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long I don't either but Ariana looks phenomenal she looks so [ __ ] good the Revenge dress oh my gosh shouldn't we
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all be so lucky shouldn't we all be that goddess the baddest [ __ ] on the planet
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she really is but you know what I have a long one for you today I'm I'm here for
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it there was really no way to transition rules into True Crime but there never is
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we should probably begin with Vanderpump Rules get into Chit Chat and then go into the story because it's probably an
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easier segue yeah but who knows um who isn't that where did I hear sagu was it the office no I oh it's um and
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that's why we drink oh they say that yes the goo I was like I want to give them cred
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because I remember hearing that word I like cigarette I like it all and I like it that's why we drink hey I'm Christine
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hey what's up we love you um okay well yeah so we're gonna be talking about what's one of my favorite
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things in the entire world other than old Hollywood socialite an old social life I [ __ ]
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love it and we're gonna be talking about Doris [ __ ] do oh let's go and she's actually one of the most like
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famous socialists in America from the very start of her life she had access to quite literally all the money
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and all the power in the world wow but weirdly she spent a good portion of her life like bouncing from one
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disappointing relationship to the next unfortunate yeah every time she entered a new relationship she was more and more
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jaded from the last one and it was kind of a pattern that was taking shape Doris
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really seemed to be losing control of herself and her emotions toward like the middle part of her life not great which
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could be part of the reason that she is linked to the suspicious death of one Eduardo torella but because he appears
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in like the later portion of her life and there's a lot to cover before that we're gonna start at the very beginning
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before we give too much away let's go because I know you guys don't like if we give too much away so I said no I won't
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I won't do it I won't I will cater to you my little baby and I meant that lovingly not like you're being a baby I
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meant like you are my baby I meant you are my babies my babies actually Moira Rose is on the other side
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of my mic right now so Dora she was born on November 22nd 1912 and from the time she took her
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first breath she was among the rarest class of individuals set above and apart from other Americans because of all the
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money she was born into it's a whole lot of money in a small [ __ ] you know what
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I mean you know what I mean you know what I mean well like yeah cardi totally so her
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father was James Buchanan Duke better known to his friends and family as simply buck buck which I'm like if you
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have a [ __ ] name like Buchanan don't you dare shorten it to Buck yeah don't Buchanan
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beautiful yeah I mean come on he could do whatever he damn well pleased because he was one of the richest men in the
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world and he was one of the richest men in the world because he had inherited his father's tobacco company and also a
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power company later so he expanded the Tobacco Company greatly he actually made them the first company to operate
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automatic uh automated cigarette machines in the US which like oh delightful so cool but like so terrible
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wonderful cool that like he invented something that could make it happen so quickly but bad because cancer sticks
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truth so by 1900 he had gained control of a lot of the competing Brands and he consolidated dated all of them and
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formed the American Tobacco Company awesome yay so happy about that this is wild eventually he owned almost 93 of
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the tobacco market in the U.S wow and a power company on the side damn like money the money money I told
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you it's a whole lot of money that's a lot of money it's almost all of it actually damn and you said Matt money
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and power and you meant it oh I meant to you and I know you meant it literal powers
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I got the power but it's literal power in tobacco which is also power at this point yeah I really I know yeah at that
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point people thought like smoking cigarettes cured everything exactly so Buck married his second wife who was
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known as Nanny that's what they called her because her name was nanoline I believe I love a nanny yeah my
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grandmother was Nanny yeah my kid's grandmother is Nanny my kid's grandmother will also be nanny because
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my uh mother well soon to be mother-in-law is Nanny yeah and she spells it just like our Nanny oh I love
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them which makes me happy yeah um so yes he married Natalie Nanny Holt Inman in 1907 after a very messy and
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very public divorce from his previous wife just one year before her name was Lillian but I didn't really look into
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her to be honest that's okay so I'm sure Lillian was fun who really knows because
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then they got divorced it could have been him it could have been her I could have been in my business but Nanny she's
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my business Nanny she had become a young Widow in 1902 when her husband wealthy industrialist is that how you say that
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yeah thanks William Inman he died in 1902 from what is listed as diabetes but in all likelihood it might have been
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alcoholism yeah yeah you know diabetes will do yeah after her husband's death she spent
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years traveling shopping being a young Society woman pretty much all I've ever hoped and dreamed of yeah until she met
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Ben Duke who was Buck's younger brother and they met in 1906 at Lake Toxaway Resort
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um which I'm like did you name it talks away because like even back then it was like trendy to get the toxins away oh I
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like that or maybe it's a place I don't really know but who really cares what it was I I
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mean maybe you do but whatever the meaning changed the entire course of Nanny's life is the point here Ben ended
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up writing a letter to his older brother and told him quote I have met the most beautiful woman in the world essentially
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trying to set his older brother up with this sexy ass lady good for him and guess what what the plan worked what and
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by the next year Nanny and buck were married on July 24th in a small ceremony in Brooklyn oh adorable yeah now Nanny
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she brought a huge inheritance to this new marriage and also her son from that previous marriage Walker Inman Buck
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initially actually wanted to adopt Walker because you know he would be a son he would go on to carry the Duke
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Legacy it would be wonderful uh but Walker was like [ __ ] all of that he didn't care he literally said that he
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that's the direct quote Yeah I don't know where I found it but it's direct he was not interested he made it clear from
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a very early age that he did not wish for buck to adopt him and they actually fought a lot over their years like a ton
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but especially more and more as Walker got older and the fights LED Buck to worry that he was not gonna have anybody
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especially like a child to leave his fortune to or to carry on his name yeah like he's like well [ __ ] this is all
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gonna end with me and this is like a amazing Empire yeah you can't just let it float off into the ether that would
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suck so bad stranger take it I know right so luckily in the spring of 1912 that all changed when at 42 years old
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Nanny discovered she was pregnant whoa right which like must have been crazy back then too because like we know a lot
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more about pregnancy now but like in 1912 I feel like that must have been a little scary yeah you know yeah like I
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don't think she expected to find herself no definitely not in 1912. exactly now that fall she went into labor actually
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unexpectedly and Doris our girly girl but like not really was born in the master bedroom of the buck and or of
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buck and Nanny's rented house which was on New York's 78th Street and as she was
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born she was surrounded by quote a fleet of high-priced private physicians and nurses she was just surrounded by money
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they just as she came into the world they just threw cash at her they absolutely did yep they were like Let's
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Make It Rain up in here let's make it rain for this infant and this like it's really interesting that this happened
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but it's also really scary because her birth made headlines in major cities across the country in America that's
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terrifying and of course the Press noted that she was now the sole inheritor of Buck's 100 million dollar estate which
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led to her being nicknamed the richest girl in the world oh that's a little scary right that's a little scary and
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you know what maybe I'm thinking of it in like a a now age where like social media is so scary and things fly so
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quickly but I mean back then back then the news was the news obviously but it was like social media yeah it's like
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that's a little scary and a lot to put on a baby a lot to put on a baby and on her family to Shield her from and by the
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way so his estate was worth 100 million then today that would be worth three billion dollars whenever you bring me
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into a place of billion I don't my mind cannot no comprehend a billion no like a
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billion that's watching succession the other night they were talking about some deal and they were like 10 billion and
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they were just saying it like it was it sounds fate here's a Cobb salad like it was just like would you like an egg with
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that adorable and I was like billions like billion billion literally sounds fake two million exists like
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that's true that's crazy to me it's wild yeah just ask you know shiv and Logan Roy I will they exists it exists and
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they throw it around like Monopoly money over there I mean when you get to billion I feel like it is [ __ ]
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Monopoly yeah at that point It's gotta be like whatever what's scary is I was never good at Monopoly money so I don't
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know I was never a monopoly girl I am gonna go on the record right now I [ __ ] hate Monopoly that's that's a
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bold stance to take I I will you know what I'll stand with you but only because I cannot remember the last time
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I played Monopoly no and I never remember it being a good time it's never a good time whenever it was like brought
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forth that we were gonna bring out the Monopoly board I was like I would rather go lay in the middle of the road you're
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gonna bring out clue let's [ __ ] know we'll make a night of it yeah I got kids clue for my kids recently cool it's
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so much fun you have to figure out who broke the toy that's that's what you do in kids clue because like I'm not gonna
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introduce like right now when they're seven why not but I know it's crazy what do you mean but man they love that and
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they keep asking me to play the adult clue and I'm like not yet not yet just because of the basis of it yeah
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one I don't want to explain that to you and two you don't need to go to school and talk about like the butler was
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murdered in the kitchen with the Candlestick oh my God no but kid's clue who broke that toy and what toy was it
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that broke yeah that's fun it spots all the same characters I like that a lot I love it but yeah a clue I'm all about
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Monopoly not so much no I'm [ __ ] Monopoly too much she's Rich As [ __ ] and from the moment
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she was born it was clear her life was going to be very very different than anybody else's life around here
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Buck was also a huge germaphobe and he was like incredibly protective of her so he bought a private Pullman car that he
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named Doris that way the family could travel around New York just like totally isolated from
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the general public but the car was stocked with champagne cigars and staffed with a full-time chef
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so wait this is a car for the child and like the family but like he got it so that the child wouldn't be like just
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wheeled around in a little I thought you meant this was literally just for the child and it was like stocked with
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champagne cigars tobacco bought it when they had the child it's kind of like when you get like when you
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have more than two children and you get a third row yeah like you get the bigger
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car you get a rich little baby to give all your inheritance to so you get them a car that's uh stocked with all that
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[ __ ] and a chef that's sick which I was like but where does the chef cook though
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like yeah that was my first question that I was gonna have about that it's like what's happening there what kind of
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Chef is it is it only a salad Chef he's a full-time Chef he's a full-time Chef so so also it's like he is he just
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hanging out in that car always all the time that's not good at the ready I don't and it's like where's the where is
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it is everything up to code I don't think there even was a code is the temperature of everything right probably
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starts cooking I don't know like I don't know it's gonna get real fumey up in that car yeah I'd rather just stop and
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get some burgers on the way yeah too much going on yeah but Buck also hired what was described as a battery of
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nurses and bodyguards to protect his daughter get it because he was rightfully convinced that she had become
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an attractive Target for kidnappers yeah since everyone was like Hey this [ __ ]
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has three billion 300 billion dollars yeah you know wait yeah no three billion not three oh excuse me yeah that would
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be one that would be crazy and you know what I don't blame him I don't have billions of dollars he can afford to do
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do whatever the [ __ ] he wants do it man it's for your kid but that's the thing
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when she had been born and dubbed the richest girl in the world it opened the floodgates and tons and tons of letters
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were starting to be sent to the family on a regular basis begging the baby for money
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like she can't even write you've always been people and yeah people know like people always just people always take it
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that extra mile people stay people they do yeah true like you said that and I was like what the hell got and then I
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was like no no that makes sense that's really not open up your redmo yeah but the thought of someone kidnapping her
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for ransom wasn't far-fetched so Buck was spending money to protect his daughter out of pure fear and constant
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paranoia and when he wasn't doing that he was showering her and his wife would like super extravagant gifts and artwork
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and antiques like crazy sick sounds like the life is it the life of Riley did they say it sounds like yeah it is is it
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Riley is it Riley but from the moment she arrived in this world there was a very loud and clear message being
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conveyed to Doris that you could have whatever the [ __ ] you want whenever the [ __ ] you want and there is nothing that
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can't be bought because you have the means to do so and herein lies the problem all of that other stuff you're
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like that sounds cool cool beautiful awesome oh yeah yeah why not you got the money for it too but then when you get
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to that part you're like and there it is that's the issue exactly that is the issue exactly because that doesn't that
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doesn't make a great adult no or an easy to deal with adult no no no no no no no
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no no so shortly after Doris was born the family actually moved back to Duke Farms which was their
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2700 acre in Hillsborough Township New Jersey it's actually cool to read about Doris because she's from around here I
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know that is cool she spends most of her time in New York New Jersey and Rhode Island actually I don't that's funny
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yeah like on the Newport Manchester the Newport Mansions they have such like a cool Mystique about them oh my God
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like they're so knives out they like they're so like murder mystery yeah they just got that Vibe about it I just love
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it I was like looking at some of them online as I was doing this story just to see because I've never been inside of
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one have you no I don't think I've actually been inside the Newport mansion you can though like they're yeah they do
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tours yeah stuff I want to do that and I think like part of them isn't like Salve
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Regina that campus like some of the Mansions are part of it or something probably I think it's like a beautiful
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campus oh love that I didn't even know that just saying I just said probably because it sounded good probably do you
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ever sit down on your ankle and then you go to move your ankle to the opposite way and you're afraid you're gonna break
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it in half all the time that just happened to me so like that with me a moment all the time [ __ ] [ __ ] so they
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moved back to New Jersey to their you know this like small quaint little farm with 2 700 Acres
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yeah but in addition to the main house the property included more than 40 other buildings damn nine Lakes nine lakes and
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one and a half miles of stone walls huh so before Doris was born the property had actually been open to the public
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like they were welcome to come stroll on the grounds there was a lot of diverse Wildlife that could be spotted the
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landscape was beautiful it was like visiting a park but when the family returned Buck was way too scared of
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having the public roam the property while they were there I don't blame them yeah especially because a lot of
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interest had peaked in his family yeah of course so he closed the property and he said he affected or it was said he
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effectively kept the world from his daughter and keeping his daughter from entering the world
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and that's tough and it's like the thing is totally protect your kid at all costs
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but you can't cut them off from the world I know that's but I understand why that was so hard yeah total balance
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because it's like how do you balance that because I'm sure especially in that position that's well I was just gonna
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say like I'm sure every parent feels that to a certain degree like you want to shelter your child as long as you can
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but then to enter like all the money that they had into it yeah it's scary that's when it gets like really really
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tough mm-hmm but I don't know I feel bad like that's a shitty like I know I'm saying I feel bad for like billionaires
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I'm not saying that no but I'm saying like that position I feel bad I feel bad for this thing you're worried about your
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kid yeah yeah you're like parent to parent parent to parent you've been relate on that so much
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by nine Lakes you know so while she was shut off from the outside world at Duke Farms Buck doted on his daughter
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entirely he would buy her anything she could have won toys pets ponies but he never really let other children come
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over to play with Doris oh and on top of that for the first 10 years of her life
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I just got super Boston right there and I like for the first 10 years of her life but she was homeschooled by private
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tutors so between being kept away from children her age and play and at school her social skills were lacking to say
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the least yeah but luckily luckily he came around and in 1922 when Doris was 10 her parents
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decided to enroll her in the breerly school I think I saw you say it it was an all-girls private school on the Upper
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East Side of New York oh excuse me XOXO Gossip Girl no I had it right originally
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wrote and wrote and I just said God originally I had originally wrote him that she became best friends with a girl
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named Blair and Serena and then they left happily ever after the end there you go but you remember the character
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Doris yeah right I'd originally wrote in that yeah you had wrote in that they wrote in her out of there
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no school helped Doris dive into different interests and things like music art and literature which those
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were all things that she really loved to like dive into but school didn't do much
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to improve her social skills she was still getting piles and piles of letters from strangers either making threats to
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her or begging her for money and she would show them to her classmates very unaware that this was not something they
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would ever relate to I was gonna now one friend she did make recalled that Doris was quote a smart girl
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sardonic and kind of scrawny but then she went on to say she was definitely something of a pariah among the other
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kids that's sad it was giving me like um a little princess remember that movie oh my God you know I've been thinking
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about that movie really yeah for some reason the Vibes were similar that's how I felt yeah sometimes you and I are like
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really like lately I feel like too like I'm like can you just like leave my head
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for a moment the [ __ ] out of my head yeah okay I just feel bad because it's not her
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fault no you know like it's not her friend she was born into I just said her fur it's not her fault she wrote it she
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wrote it it's not her fur it's it's not her fault that she was born into a family of of a billionaire like you know
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Legacy yeah one in a billion chance yeah that's it's it sucks that like she kind
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of she reaps the benefits of it the monetary benefits of it that's not everything exactly and it's like
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obviously it's that's really tough for a kid it's so bad I do too for the kid but
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sadly things we're gonna take a sad turn for Doris that is sad because then I did
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sound brought to you by sad in 1925 life shifted really dramatically for her because her father's health started to
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take a serious decline as she was getting older like into her like 10 11 12 years I don't know what the [ __ ] you
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call those her 10 11 12s you know yeah the 10 the 11 the 12th pre-teens he was constantly fatigued he was constantly
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sick but now it was becoming clear that this was a lot more serious than anybody
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had originally thought oh no and on October 10th John Buchanan Duke did end up dying from
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pernicious anemia pernicious yeah damn it's a condition where the body is incapable of absorbing enough vitamin
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B12 eek yeah yeah that's rough no Doris was a self-described daddy's girl and Buck's death death excuse me left a
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major hole in her life and left her alone with a very cold and very distant mother oh no and of course a house a
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full staffed house of course but the year before he died Buck had established the Duke endowment with a 40 million
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dollar donation to Trinity College in North Carolina where he was from damn after that the school was redeveloped
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and branded as Duke University to honor him oh that one some people say that like he made them rename it after that
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but like if he donated 40 million dollars I think that's fair yeah I would say so I'd want it named after me he
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definitely bought that name like that is for sure you know now after he died his
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will left another 65 million to the school but the bulk of his estate went to his daughter leaving 13 year old
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Doris with roughly again a hundred million dollars in cash flushed with cash and again three
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billion dollars today so she had him three billion dollars in cash damn she on top of that had control of Duke Farms
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among other properties wow at that point she quite literally was the richest girl
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in the world wow the entire world the world the planet all of it the planet but sadly her inheritance put more of a
00:28:14
strain on the relationship she had with her mother because Nanny which I would too resented the fact that her husband
00:28:21
had left everything to their daughter can you imagine you marry this man's and like I want my kid to be taken care of
00:28:30
for my future kids but like they get everything yeah all those nights we spent together
00:28:36
that's that's a ton they get everything that's a tough hit to take that's right I will say that and what was even harder
00:28:42
of a hit to take was there actually ended up being a lawsuit where Doris sued Nanny over the sale of Duke Farms
00:28:49
because Nanny wanted to sell the property but Doris wanted to keep it so she ended up suing Nanny and the
00:28:56
executors of the will successfully wow and she kept uh Duke Farms in the family until she died it was like a primary
00:29:03
residence wow look isn't that crazy but like 13 years old and she sues them 13 years old having to sue them too and
00:29:10
that's and that's so traumatic too like like what the [ __ ] and it's like how do
00:29:15
you how do you even come to that that place and you guys you know like how do you even know to do that yeah and you
00:29:20
guys just like go home and eat dinner together after your lawsuit gets settled out of court and like who got her to do
00:29:26
that and I do have been somebody I think I don't know because it's like that person must have had a vested interest
00:29:32
maybe it was just her though because she she sued her mother and the executors of
00:29:37
the will maybe they're right and she's a very steadfast girlie I mean yeah so that definitely could be it no fast
00:29:44
forward a few years from that to the fall of 1930. now Doris is celebrating her 18th birthday with a big old coming
00:29:51
out party oh and we've always wanted one of those a debutante there it is the white gloves ever since you saw it on
00:29:59
Gilmore Girls oh my I've always wanted a debutante Park yeah you wanted to do a fan dance I really really wanted to do
00:30:05
the fan dance y'all I like I don't know any of the interworkings about anything else but I really want to do the fan
00:30:12
yeah like you don't want to like have anything else to do with it you just want to do the dress yep the probably
00:30:17
the food absolutely imagine and the fandang clubs and the white gloves I love the gloves now most Society women
00:30:24
would like have this at this time and love it and all that jazz Doris [ __ ] hated this she wanted to go off to
00:30:30
college she didn't want to have one of these but Nanny was like you are having a coming out party of course like duh
00:30:36
your Doris Duke no the coming out party was held at Rough point which was their New York Rhode Island no Newport Rhode
00:30:44
Island estate that will end up becoming a huge point in this story later on but it marked Doris's entrance into high
00:30:51
society and the world of the elite and the wealthy American families which all sounds pretty terrible if you ask me but
00:30:59
like the food and the white gloves the fan dance sign me up into it so the coming out party like I said definitely
00:31:05
meant a hell of a lot more to Nanny than it did to Doris Nanny was what was a member of what was referred to as the
00:31:12
old guard which is just like the whole entire Society the original it's like the you know it's like how it meant more
00:31:19
to Emily Gilmore than it did to worry and Lorelei exactly exactly now so she took Nanny she took the rights and
00:31:27
responsibilities of society life the very seriously while Doris on the other hand saw the responsibilities of all
00:31:34
this wealth and privilege she had as an inescapable burden at some points I'm sure she probably loved it there was
00:31:41
probably some uh pretty sick parts of it yeah definitely not gonna lie but at least at least at this point in her life
00:31:48
she felt like it was an inescapable Bird yeah I'm sure there were definitely those moments of being like oh cool
00:31:52
everyone wants to kidnap me yeah exactly that's a burden and I'm sure it was very
00:31:56
difficult to make friends that were not that of her station is that like that like you don't know if people are just
00:32:02
being friends with you because you got money exactly you know now she would tend to hang out Doris with a different
00:32:08
crowd that Nanny deemed the lower class oh and she called them undesirables wow I call you an uncrustable
00:32:16
[Laughter] what's not a great flavor remember when I got them to tweet at me about the grilled cheese flavor that was
00:32:29
a good time I need uncrustable to please bring back that flavor I never had that
00:32:34
but I'm intrigued by it it was greasy and beautiful and everything that dreams are made of if you ask me and it also
00:32:44
probably sent me into like a very yeah exactly with my lights off but these people who were the
00:33:02
undesirables to Nanny were Doris's friends yeah they were the musicians artists and writers and they would all
00:33:08
hang out at the Harlem jazz clubs oh that sounds cool which Doris discovered in her late teens and absolutely fell in
00:33:13
love with she was a big big fan of jazz there you go uh what did the watch what Craftsman's
00:33:21
guys call the lady if you love Bravo go listen to watch what crappens Ronnie and Ben are
00:33:31
we love them we do um now try as she might to express her disinterest in The High Society life
00:33:37
that was so important to her mother Doris could not escape the responsibility or the pressure of her
00:33:43
wealth and the most important expectation that she was faced with was finding a husband that her mother felt
00:33:50
was a good match for her status and social position now Nanny tolerated Doris's art and musician friends from
00:33:57
the Harlem nightlife but they would literally never do for a husband in Nanny's eyes yeah now Nanny had her eye
00:34:05
on another man and Doris's laugh oh I don't know why I'm getting Southern because we're not even Southern but this
00:34:09
guy was Jimmy Cromwell he was an aspiring politician and he was also the sole heir to a fortune that was made
00:34:16
from investment banking with uh one JP Morgan I wonder if he was also related to to the family from Halloweentown it's
00:34:27
entirely possible I couldn't find any valuable sources on that information but you should look into it I'm gonna look
00:34:33
into it I think you should you know do you know Marnie do you Jimmy Halloween is cool okay
00:34:41
what's the scale is it Benny the skeleton yeah Benny he's my favorite yeah but Cromwell he sounds like a big
00:34:47
creep he's not like Benny that's not great he had his eye on Doris and she was just 16 years old and he was off 33
00:34:54
at that point so and uh I'm out what's that Tick Tock how we're like that's weird
00:35:03
the relationship was actually encouraged by Nanny Duke I hate that um and Friends of the Duke Family they
00:35:10
all felt that quote a merger of the two families would strengthen their position
00:35:13
and consolidate their wealth ew so they were like yeah it's totally fine that he's been hitting on her since she was
00:35:18
16. will it make us richer let's go let's go girl let's go so Jimmy and Doris they actually did end up marrying
00:35:25
in 1935 Doris was 22 and he was 39. okay the ceremony took place in the library of the Dukes New York home at East 78th
00:35:34
Street which I'm pretty sure is where she was born oh um and was described by the New York
00:35:39
Times as unostentatious and somewhat mysterious which is uh the theme of my way thank you I like the somewhat
00:35:48
mysterious somewhat not entirely mysterious totally but somewhat but there was a little mystery in there and
00:35:54
I like that unostentatious unostentatious I like it yeah I feel that I'm into it they're like Tom
00:36:00
Sandoval and Rachel oh their age Gap I was like in what way their age Gap that's true in the
00:36:07
creepiness of it all there you go yeah now Doris had made it a point to Shield herself from the Press throughout her
00:36:13
entire life and that's why the wedding was as private as it was she was very very private and I feel about too now
00:36:20
she and Jimmy made a quick exit after the wedding they headed to the Haba and they got on board an Italian ocean liner
00:36:26
that was bound for Egypt which was where they would spend their honeymoon oh okay
00:36:30
right my friend actually just went to Egypt hi Holly and it looked so [ __ ] beautiful and now I want to go to Egypt
00:36:37
let's go to Egypt okay cool now in the years before Jimmy and Doris were married Nanny was really confident like
00:36:44
I was just saying that his wealth was sufficient she seemed to think that his intentions with Doris were genuine she
00:36:51
never thought he was a gold digger until the stock market crash of 1929. uh-oh then she said I think he might be a
00:36:58
golden you know what she started getting a little skeptical of Jimmy boy there and his motivations to marry her
00:37:03
precious daughter because the financial crisis had caused his family to lose a large amount of
00:37:10
their Fortune so he was kind of clinging to his relationship and it seemed to be
00:37:14
a way of Keeping Up Appearances and maintaining a lifestyle that he'd gotten used to oh no versus like being in love
00:37:20
Yeah but still no matter how right Nanny might have been about this man her constant criticism of Jimmy only seemed
00:37:29
to push Doris closer to him uh-oh it was like like Doris wanted to fight her mother any chance she could of course
00:37:35
Defiance was kind of a pattern in her relationship with her mom whether it was the coming out party the wedding
00:37:41
celebration or even the marriage if Nanny thought it should be one way Doris was like cool I'ma go the other way I'm
00:37:47
so sad that Nanny was not like a radical nanny I know and I mean radical in the way that's like radical
00:37:54
radical I was like she kind of seems a little radical I think she maybe was yeah yeah
00:38:00
I'm mad that she's not rad yeah yeah I mean she's a product of her environment she sure is but you know you have a
00:38:08
choice yeah don't be a [ __ ] don't be a [ __ ] yeah don't be a [ __ ] don't be a
00:38:12
[ __ ] she's like what did you just say young lady now another theme emerging in
00:38:18
Doris's life was her desire for privacy and this tendency to avoid the press this was probably a behavior that grew
00:38:25
over time I think and most likely came from Buck's last words to her on his deathbed he had told her never trust
00:38:33
anyone I mean solid advice those were his dying words too I can't even I can't even like
00:38:39
13 year old daughter solid advice solid advice I definitely don't trust anyone I
00:38:44
wish she had said like and if you're going out or if you're going out that's all you're like I gotta throw something
00:38:50
important in here that is solid advice to throw out at it lasts at the buzzer like also like go see what you want to
00:38:57
see in the world I mean I hope and I love you was thrown in there so I'm sure it was I bet it was because I loved his
00:39:03
stuff and I'm sure maybe maybe that's what it led up to maybe it was like this whole thing like I love you I never want
00:39:07
anything to happen to you fly fly little bird it was all these wonderful things and it was like follow your dreams
00:39:13
travel the world but don't trust anyone and that was the end of it maybe I'll give my kids that advice when I die I
00:39:19
think it's good advice I would I'm already already handing out that advice to everyone I know I don't trust anyone
00:39:25
don't trust a hoe I'm not giving it to people I don't know because I don't trust anyone so if you don't know them
00:39:30
but anyway she was probably right to guy to guard privacy because like we know since she was a child it was this
00:39:38
endless line of strangers asking for money threatening her safety or prying into her personal habits to write about
00:39:43
them in tablets sounds awesome and even her mom kind of had a way of slipping in
00:39:47
and out of those categories especially when it came to one money and two how Doris's choices choices would affect her
00:39:54
social status oh it was like nanny had I think she had good intentions at her heart but it was also always layered
00:40:04
with like well how will people think of us I think it's literally and I know like like Emily it's like Emily Gilmore
00:40:10
it literally is it's like you there's times when you're watching that show and you're like [ __ ] yeah Emily yeah like
00:40:16
you love them like I know you love them I know you want what's best for them and
00:40:19
then there's times where you like God Emily what the [ __ ] shut your mouth and it's always to do with like appearances
00:40:24
yeah and like what is like socially acceptable and I think it's just like that's that's the
00:40:31
that is a product of how they were raised totally unfortunately the old period the society they were in it's so
00:40:39
surface level though all of it and that's what sucks is like Doris was looked at on such a so like a surface
00:40:45
level from her own mother yeah no it's true and and the reason why I think she was like like she did love Doris and had
00:40:55
good intentions is because she was really really worried about Doris getting together with Jimmy yeah so
00:41:02
worried so that she actually um before they were officially married hired a private detective to dig into
00:41:07
Jimmy's life hell yeah which I think was again a mixture of caring a lot about her daughter but also like what could
00:41:14
come out yeah making sure that you you aren't gonna tarnish my legacy here exactly now it could have tarnished her
00:41:22
Legacy in her eyes because the investigation for one reason or another led her to believe that Jimmy was a gay
00:41:28
man and that would not be acceptable for her daughter which is lame yeah now of course she
00:41:34
warned Doris but I can literally picture Doris rolling her eyes into the back of
00:41:38
her head and not giving a [ __ ] yeah because she's like cool Mom bye and she probably thinks at this point that her
00:41:43
mom's gonna say anything she doesn't marry Jimmy now whether it was because Jimmy wasn't necessarily interested in
00:41:50
Doris physically or not uh signs of a troubled marriage began almost immediately after they got on the ship
00:41:57
headed for Egypt according to one biographer quote they had delayed sex to enjoy the ship but they retired early
00:42:03
she slipped on a negligee Jimmy asked his bride what he could expect in the way of annual income
00:42:09
wow so like those are two different things she's trying to go a little spicy and celebrate the Mirage of course the
00:42:16
marriage The Mirage I was gone for a minute but I'm back now I literally died like actively actively
00:42:27
died you might have heard some of that actually I don't think we cut it entirely possible that you heard me die
00:42:32
slightly yeah but I'm back now she's back here I am so yeah she's trying to get a little spicy and he's
00:42:39
just focused on his yearly projections yeah I'm just getting ready for taxes which like imagine like the night after
00:42:45
you got married or like a couple nights after you're like oh like let me put on this outfit where I look a little cute
00:42:50
and like let's go and he's like so like how much money are you gonna give me annually I'd be like I [ __ ] up can you
00:42:57
sign this tax form for me like God like yeah that's not good yeah so this night uh laid the foundation oh for a marriage
00:43:04
where Jimmy constantly wanted more more and more when it came to money and Doris
00:43:08
wanted more and more war when it came to intimacy hmm it was not ideal but at the
00:43:12
same time a divorce would have been a scandal so hey brought it back they went on as a married couple for a good while
00:43:19
with both of them just maintaining Affairs on the side trying not to get caught by the Press wow yeah now the
00:43:25
marriage finally did fall apart though in early 1943 and it was a messy divorce oh no Doris told the press that Jimmy
00:43:34
was a reckless spend her and he was constantly demanding more money and Jimmy pointed the finger back at her and
00:43:39
revealed a ton of the Affairs that she had had throughout the years oh did she say like same to you you pretty much I'm
00:43:46
sure yeah you too direct quote but the court did end up siding with Doris probably because she had more money and
00:43:52
influence probably Jimmy got literally nothing and he would spend years contesting the divorce and still begging
00:43:59
for more money oh no so the divorce from Jimmy it really marked the beginning of
00:44:03
a new era fedoris New Year knew her that's right she Dove deeper into her interest she started traveling more she
00:44:11
took tons of trips abroad to Europe and as in the last days of World War II she was like going there constantly wow and
00:44:18
she fell in love with the culture and of course the men we love a European of course the men of course the men she
00:44:24
kept going back more and more and she was so inspired that she started writing and eventually took a position as a
00:44:31
foreign correspondent for major newspapers across the country like bad [ __ ] I didn't know that about her nor
00:44:37
did I until I started looking into it now it was during one of her European trips that she met uh poor Porfirio
00:44:45
rubarosa and I did look up how to say that and I did I'm doing my best like and I nailed it if I do say so myself
00:44:51
maybe I think I did it all right now he was a Dominican Diplomat and actually the former son-in-law of a Dominican
00:44:59
dictator oh so he was a little messy well he was a little bit but a little bit of a lot going on now rubarosa was
00:45:07
usually on the fringes of a violent political movements and a lot of people were really [ __ ] terrified of him
00:45:13
yeah one because he was perfectly fine being aggressive and two he had major major scary scary political ties eek and
00:45:21
also he had a reputation as a popular ladies man oh look at that he's like super handsome is it I don't think he
00:45:28
was the best human being but like sometimes the worst human beings have good faces they sure do definitely he'd
00:45:34
actually even linked to our girl Marilyn oh miss Marilyn Monroe damn and also to
00:45:40
Rita Hayworth and Veronica Lake oh wow so he really like he got around yeah now when Doris met him in Paris in 1945 he
00:45:48
was still actually married to popular French actress Danielle deroux I believe is how you say it or dare you uh but
00:45:55
he's my I just looked at the moment is it a little hot in here that's unfortunately
00:46:00
not not the kindest man no but he was still married to this French actress Danielle Dario I believe but he was
00:46:08
completely taken with Doris and she felt the same way toward him he was to her sexy dangerous exciting quite frankly
00:46:16
everything that Jimmy was not all right now it was no surprise that not long after meeting Doris and rubarossa
00:46:22
started an affair that would eventually lead to marriage okay now by the time she married him she knew it was highly
00:46:28
unlikely that she was ever going to build a relationship on love and mutual respect because she was one of the
00:46:34
wealthiest people in the world that sucks and unless she wanted to keep having her heart broken over and over
00:46:39
again she just kind of had to accept that most people were attracted to her at least partially because of money okay
00:46:46
now this was 10 000 million gajillion percent true of rubarosa he was already known to swap one opportunity or partner
00:46:55
out for another if it was for more money oh which is sad yeah so and this is [ __ ] wild Doris put up 1.5 million
00:47:05
dollars for her relationship with him whoa a million dollars went to Danielle with the expectation that she would
00:47:12
divorce her husband and walk away which she did holy [ __ ] she was like all right she was laughing
00:47:21
straight to the bank literally laughing to the bank yeah and that was in 1947. damn and then uh Doris and rubarosa were
00:47:29
married in September of 1947. wow now in true Doris fashion the ceremony was understated it took place I think this
00:47:36
is really cool it took place at the uh Dominican Consulate in Paris and there was just a handful of guests there and
00:47:43
at that time actually Doris was working as a fashion correspondent for Harper's Bazaar look at Doris so a lot of the
00:47:50
guests were co-workers from the magazine now she definitely entered the marriage
00:47:55
with eyes wide open but it also didn't make it suck any less that her husband was almost entirely motivated by her
00:48:01
money yeah within days of the wedding he was already making demands and clearly expected to be showered with expensive
00:48:09
and extravagant gifts including an apartment in Paris and an airplane just a little stuff that's what I got
00:48:16
Drew for our wedding I was gonna say just stuff that you expect when you get married here's a chateau and a floating
00:48:22
device you know love you love you mean it jokes now things couldn't go on that way obviously and be you know hunky-dory
00:48:29
forever so as the years went on Doris started getting more and more jealous and resentful of her husband between his
00:48:35
demands of her and his flirtations with other women so she would try to work on things but he saw it as her making
00:48:42
unreasonable demands of his time so it just forced a greater wedge between them boy now to get away from all of that
00:48:51
just as she had done with her mother when she was a teenager Doris hid from the status and wealth and the quiet
00:48:56
cafes and nightclubs in Paris in the post-war years Paris was getting more and more popular with Americans and
00:49:03
Jazz musicians so that was drawing a huge huge crowds of people who either knew nothing or didn't care about High
00:49:11
Society that's kind of cool yeah it's awesome yeah so she could just be another American Jazz Enthusiast when
00:49:16
she was out with them instead of the richest girl in the world oh that's cool yeah so after spending more and more
00:49:22
time in the club she actually started sitting in with the bands damn playing piano and like socializing with the
00:49:28
people there who liked her for who she was that's wild not what she could buy them yeah her new phone popularity and
00:49:34
acceptance at the jazz clubs of Paris only exacerbated the tension between her and her husband though at first it
00:49:41
started as her getting away but then it was like I'm sure her eyes started to open and she was like what the [ __ ] am I
00:49:46
doing yeah she's like why am I settling for this I can have this life yeah just as easy yeah so the final nail in the
00:49:52
coffin came when rubarosa was named Dominican Republic's ambassador to Argentina which meant that he was going
00:49:58
to have to move to Buena oh what a terrible predicament to be oh what a terrible one Doris she didn't want to
00:50:05
move there for multiple reasons and she was especially concerned over fears for her personal safety yeah so she decided
00:50:12
to stay back in the U.S but she brought or she bought him yet another airplane that he could use whenever he wanted to
00:50:18
see her oh my God by an airplane and she was like for whenever you want to see me but
00:50:24
he like barely came home of course sad yeah so the distance clearly made things worse and by 1948 her second marriage
00:50:31
had completely Fallen apart yeah they were barely together a year but this time she had planned ahead and
00:50:38
they had signed a prenup that actually I read in One Source the U.S government helped pen this holy [ __ ] yeah
00:50:46
um but it allowed for a quick divorce but also unfortunately required her to pay him 25
00:50:52
000 a year for the rest of his life holy [ __ ] which she did until 1965 when he
00:50:58
was unfortunately killed in a car accident wow now allegedly their relationship actually never truly ended
00:51:04
sexually at least oh and she was so upset over his death when he did die she spent several days in bed oh wow so like
00:51:12
it's like so she really loved him she really did really cared for him I think she loved it in a big way for sure
00:51:18
that's sad and I think it's also like apparent how much she loved him because this relationship I think changed her
00:51:26
fundamentally really she knew that everybody wanted something from her and throughout the year she had learned to
00:51:32
use that to her Advantage but I think years of trying not to let that bother her were starting to catch up yeah that
00:51:38
makes sense she was spending more and more time at the jazz clubs and the lifestyle in her case was a bit of a
00:51:45
catch-22 she was learning more and more about the music and the culture and like
00:51:49
having really a lot of fun with that but at the same time she started to experiment more with drugs oh now this
00:51:57
scene eventually led her to Joseph Joey Castro he was a young jazz musician he was gaining popularity in LA and in 1950
00:52:05
Doris invited him to stay with her in Hawaii whoa she had part of the house renovated to accommodate musical
00:52:12
performances you know as one does I was just gonna say that's what you know that's what everybody renovates their
00:52:17
house yeah like my boyfriend's in a band yeah let me just renovate part of my house for him of course now she had
00:52:23
cultivated a lot of relationships with the people in the Jazz scene and a lot of these people she considered Close
00:52:29
Associates but Joey was one of the few people that she actually considered a close friend they shared a passion for
00:52:35
music but he also understood things about her that a lot of people had overlooked like she struggled massively
00:52:42
with social anxiety and he understood that and like could help her yeah it was actually the reason that kept her from
00:52:49
actually pursuing a career in music or performance was her social thing oh that's sad I know social anxiety sucks
00:52:56
it does I get Social Anxiety me too I think it makes things very difficult just like varying degrees oh yeah and I
00:53:02
think hers was like on the higher end of the spectrum yeah for sure but eventually their friendship you know
00:53:08
Joey and Doris here grew into a romantic relationship oh and in 1953 Doris actually bought a home for them in La
00:53:16
where they could unwind unwind this is my unwinding home I was gonna say you just have a HomeTown I unwind in that
00:53:24
one we make music in that one we unwind there we we sometimes eat cereal and this is where we watch The Price is
00:53:33
Right and this is where we watch the spooky stories exactly imagine imagine now according to her biographers Doris's
00:53:41
purchase of the house in La quote implied a commitment to Castro but she had only made the decision to buy the
00:53:48
place after her on and off again relationship with another man novelist Louis Brumfield appeared to be going
00:53:55
nowhere hmm yes now the end of the affair with that means freed up more of Doris's time so she refocused that time
00:54:02
to her relationship with Joey now in 19 or by 1954 Joey had actually assembled a
00:54:08
small Jazz combo with Doris and they were performing together in small clubs with Doris in Disguise so she couldn't
00:54:16
be recognized oh my God she is like Duke silver Ron Swanson [ __ ] I literally wrote that oh my God I love that I
00:54:26
literally I love it I also said I couldn't help but picture her wearing a Sia wig and playing a saxophone
00:54:33
right yeah right [Music] all I could think of was things I'm obsessed I love it so it wasn't quite as stimulating as her
00:54:44
last relationships but this relationship with Dory or with Joey excuse me was comfortable and familiar for Doris and
00:54:51
also allowed her to pursue her love of music yeah it was a bit out of convenience I think it sounds like it
00:54:58
unfortunately again it was a lifestyle that put Doris in contact close contact I'll say with a lot of questionable
00:55:06
characters yeah including those who are more than willing to sell her drugs she's getting a little more on drugs
00:55:13
throughout this time period which we all know doesn't lead to wonderful wonderful
00:55:16
things no always Now by 1956 Doris's world had undergone a dramatic and unexpected transformation in a very
00:55:25
short amount of time she had gone from introverted socialite to secret jazz performer and this is where I wrote it's
00:55:31
giving Duke silver she was literally traveling around the world at this point performing in some
00:55:38
of the most prominent jazz clubs of course still in disguise and while she may have been privately
00:55:43
living out her fantasies she was like I think she was really going through it I think mentally and then I think the
00:55:50
drugs didn't help yeah and she couldn't ignore the reminders of a lot of past failures starting to creep in around her
00:55:56
that year Lewis Broomfield died and it was the first of several events that hit Doris really hard oh after he passed she
00:56:05
learned that rubarossa because this was before he had posted yeah had married socialite and her former rival Barbara
00:56:12
Hutton uh-oh and the disappointments and heartbreak caused her to retreat even further into her secret lifestyle which
00:56:19
made her dive even further into drug use and Casual sexual encounters oh so by the early 1960s her relationship with
00:56:28
Joey Castro started to become more strained because of that yeah mostly because she was also reluctant reluctant
00:56:34
excuse me to fully commit to their relationship Joey really wanted to get married but Doris was like no and
00:56:41
according to her cousin Pony Duke Doris loved you do Pony do because I'm not great Doris loved Joey's Music and
00:56:48
appreciated his companionship but quote was not about to get married again she didn't want to get me okay she'd
00:56:54
been scoring twice I was gonna say I can't yeah you can't really blame her so instead she quote orchestrated a strange
00:57:01
sort of marriage ceremony that was not really a marriage ceremony to appease Joey
00:57:07
so I think she Loki like made a fake wedding I was just gonna say so what you're saying it seems to me like he was
00:57:13
very much under the impression that they were legally married but she just made it it was like nah this is like not for
00:57:19
realsies wow okay now the Sham marriage did ease tensions for a little bit but the fights were gonna start back up
00:57:26
again yeah and by the end of their relationship the arguments between Doris and Joey had not only increased in
00:57:31
frequency but also intensity oh they usually ended violently oh no and things took a dramatic turn for the worse in
00:57:38
June of 1963 when during one of these intense arguments Doris grabbed a butter knife from the kitchen counter and
00:57:46
allegedly stabbed Joey in the arm oh that's not a normal fight she stabbed him y'all that's not a normal argument
00:57:55
that's if you are grabbing any kind of knife to stab your partner in the midst of an argument it's time to walk away
00:58:01
yeah any kind of Weaponry that's being um brought into an argument is really that that's the time to think about it
00:58:09
yeah I would say so that's the time to really take stock of what's Happening Here seek guidance yeah you know yeah
00:58:15
everybody needs that occasionally that's not good so by 1964 Doris and Joey had become
00:58:22
completely estranged and he's not not guilty in all of this either yeah but he and we'll get there he was totally cut
00:58:29
off from the life of luxury that he'd been enjoying with Doris for a decade at this point so as a result he filed a
00:58:36
[ __ ] ton of lawsuits and divorce suits demanding financial compensation anywhere from five thousand dollars to a
00:58:42
hundred and fifty thousand dollars oh I guess it just like depended on how you felt that day yeah you know yeah but he
00:58:48
also wanted part ownership of the house in La now among other things his suits alleged that they had been married twice
00:58:54
first in Rhode Island in 1956 and then again in Philadelphia in 1960 but in response Doris filed for and was awarded
00:59:05
a restraining order in May of 1964 which barred him from ever publicly claiming to be her husband
00:59:12
and effectively ended his pursuit of a quote unquote divorce oh damn or any kind of compensation they were like
00:59:18
no he had allegedly broken her jaw at one point in 1966 after she pulled the plug on his record company which she
00:59:27
owned what the [ __ ] the morning after she fled to Hollywood to go to Newport with her designer and a man that would
00:59:35
soon be at the center of this story Eduardo Eddie torella oh now jorus's life before this point had
00:59:43
always been kind of like a fairy tale whether she liked it or not her wealth her money and her privilege shielded her
00:59:49
from a lot of the more difficult realities in her life yeah but they were only going to protect her for so long
00:59:55
and she knew that now that knowledge and that where we're starting to show in her personality
01:00:01
anytime a relationship ended and especially because they usually ended badly she would become harder and
01:00:07
tougher on the outside and more depressed on the inside and at the same time her experimentation with drugs
01:00:13
paired with her mental struggles that was starting to make her a lot more impulsive and that was becoming more
01:00:19
clear especially in the violent fight she was starting yeah I mean she literally stabbed her yeah
01:00:25
sort of husband yeah her fake husband and while she hopefully regretted those arguments and altercations they were not
01:00:33
going to be the last time she became violent oh no and the next time should have come with greater consequences eek
01:00:40
so even though she felt more and more comfortable with the LA nightlife through Joey during the 1950s she was
01:00:46
kind of retreating further into herself and at the same time she was surrounding
01:00:50
herself and uh surrounding herself with what her cousin referred to as a colorful group of Hollywood types oh
01:00:57
which included Eddie torella and I would also assume that he was probably referring to her Butler Bernard Lafferty
01:01:03
and this other woman Shandy Hefner who Doris actually ended up adopting when Shandy was like 35 and Doris was in her
01:01:11
like 60s or 70s um it's like a Sidetrack story that I can't get into here because we'll be
01:01:18
here for hours okay but please go look into that yeah oh yes I will it is wild okay yeah okay yeah I would definitely
01:01:27
accept that information definitely read some of the biographies that I'll link in the show notes and the uh variety
01:01:33
Vanity Fair articles written about her but right now we're gonna focus on Eddie okay now it's crazy that I'm like that
01:01:41
that yeah wow yeah I think there's a whole a e show about adopting adults they should feature Doris oh I'm just
01:01:47
saying okay so anyways Doris met Eddie torella in LA in 1959 this was before she had um cut Joey off and that's how
01:01:55
they met he was an aspiring interior designer and occasionally moonlit as a nightclub singer which I think is really
01:02:01
fun mood lighting is a nightclub singer that's so like old Hollywood yeah bada boom it's also how Lady Gaga like got
01:02:08
big there you go but then she used to sing in nightclubs yeah probably wasn't she on the Hills
01:02:13
oh my God yeah she was yeah I think that's when she was starting like getting her outfit together on an
01:02:19
episode yeah you're not wrong when she was singing like Poker Face I think that's a deep cut
01:02:24
yeah I want to watch The Hills now yeah yeah but Eddie he had played some of those same venues that Joey had played
01:02:31
because remember he's also like a singer Guy oh yes and Joey had learned that tyrella's real passion in life was
01:02:37
through desire was for design and while they were still together Joey told Doris
01:02:42
about Eddie because it just so happened she was looking for an interior designer
01:02:46
ah of course so it was Joey who suggested she'd take a chance and hire Eddie literally the
01:02:54
only thing that Doris and Eddie had in common was that they had both grown up in New Jersey it started and ended there
01:03:00
I feel like that's like the ultimate in common thing though it's like if you're both from Jersey I feel like it's like
01:03:05
that's okay that's it I think so too yeah actually right I just I don't know why you'll just feel pretty great yeah I
01:03:10
think you'll get each other it's not great here no but they they did seem to sort of get each other I think Eddie got
01:03:17
Doris a little more than Doris got Eddie but I think she got him to a degree cool
01:03:21
no by all accounts Eddie was a Charming popular and super super talented dude in
01:03:28
high school his classmates actually referred to him as Playboy of the Western Front wow it's like wow I'm
01:03:34
obsessed with that who are these high school kids that came up with that well like high school kids were like way
01:03:40
better back then that was like the 40s and 50s I feel like they all had like transatlantic accident accents and they
01:03:45
were just like hey yeah these are like high school kids that like had cigarettes rolled up and for sure like
01:03:50
which like don't smoke cigarettes like back then it was cool yeah you know yeah so after graduating from Dover High
01:03:57
School he had pursued a career as a dancer and an artist but at the same as he was like trying to pursue that he got
01:04:04
drafted into World War II and when the war ended and he returned home he worked on Saks Fifth Avenue oh designing hats
01:04:11
for people like Mae West oh who's she yeah crazy I love her now then he decided to move out to LA where he
01:04:19
started gardening and he found work with famous clients like Alan Ladd and Peggy
01:04:24
Lee oh yeah he was like in touch with big people he was an incredibly hard worker he really never had any trouble
01:04:31
finding a job especially through word of both of these very famous influential people yeah it was just that he
01:04:37
struggled to maintain an interest in one job or one field for a long time by the
01:04:43
early 50s he was actually though becoming pretty successful as a designer in Hollywood but because he refused to
01:04:49
join a union it limited the work he could get so to make extra money he was singing in the nightclubs where he met
01:04:55
Joey just moonlighten Moon Lighting now his first work with Doris was when she had him Remodel and Design the 20
01:05:03
greenhouses at Duke Farm now this is actually I thought you would be all over this she wanted him to revive them and
01:05:10
she wanted them to be used as like a public attraction because she was she opened the grounds up again oh okay now
01:05:16
Eddie and pressed the [ __ ] out of her when he redesigned each Greenhouse into a garden that represented a different
01:05:23
ecosystem or part of the world shut the [ __ ] up that's awesome how [ __ ] cool
01:05:28
is that I want to see that right Dan I love a theme I oh I love a good thing you guys know we love a thing we love a
01:05:36
theme but like oh that's so cool transforming Gardens that represent different ecosystems that's cool like
01:05:43
who that's a cool mind right there yeah that was a mind at work yeah so she was like oh let's [ __ ] go like you're my
01:05:50
guy yeah she was super excited to dive into her love of gardening because she actually was an avid gardener with the
01:05:56
completion of the project she was like let's go but she had also gained a new companion and at this point her
01:06:03
relationship with Joey Castro is falling apart and then It ultimately does fall apart so she wasn't interested in a
01:06:08
romantic relationship with a man she just missed companionship which she had found in Eddie and he was the ideal
01:06:15
companion because he was a gay man he wasn't after her for like love or anything like that yeah
01:06:20
she knew that he would stick by her and not lose interest in her sexually and at
01:06:25
the same time he was funny talented and also nice to look at now according to Pony Duke Eddie quote was Mick was the
01:06:32
mixture of masculinity and taste that Doris Duke found so very attractive and the perfect ornament for Doris as she
01:06:39
aged I was like Wow damn but her dramatic and Theatrical aesthetic was also a perfect match for Eddie because
01:06:46
he was just starting to make a name for himself in the theater and film industry
01:06:50
very multifaceted man okay oh he was a handsome man too wasn't he just looking at him super handsome
01:06:58
now like I know really good just like he looks friendly doesn't he does he's got
01:07:03
a friendly face I like his face I'd give him a little smooch but probably not because he'd be like get away from me
01:07:09
I'd give him a little a little smooch a little Smoochy kiss if you watch Bluey Smoochy case now before long Doris had
01:07:17
actually made space for Eddie and all of her houses and apartments which there's
01:07:21
a lot of them yeah he always had his own room wherever they went he could have privacy when they traveled together
01:07:27
but aside from him getting to like sleep in his own space Doris was starting to dominate all of his time because
01:07:34
remember she doesn't have a man's right now and she I she's somebody that needed
01:07:40
to have someone yeah I could I'm starting to see that about her she treated Eddie like a romantic partner in
01:07:46
all ways other than sexually and a lot of times she would actually get jealous if she wasn't feeling like his first
01:07:52
priority but like they're not together yeah so it's like uh and that was a lot for him and by the mid 90s oh sorry I
01:07:59
just kicked you in the foot kicking my feet foot five but by the mid-1960s her demands were starting to wear on him he
01:08:05
was on the payroll and happy for the work but the expectation that he would be at her beck and call every hour of
01:08:12
every day was getting exhausting it was a little Bubba's pay grade it was one of
01:08:16
those friends one of his friends said he hated those nights the nights that he worked for her and had to spend time
01:08:20
with her oh but as tired as he was he was trying to stick with it as long as he could because he had bills he had
01:08:26
debt and we're working for Doris paid a pretty penny yeah now as she got older and started cutting more and more people
01:08:33
out of her life Doris was actually starting to seem a lot more like the generation before her that she used to
01:08:39
hate yeah her mom's generation that treated working people like that people that were working for them like the help
01:08:46
that's how she was kind of starting to act yeah she was getting that attitude and that's something that Eddie was
01:08:51
starting to really hate the most it was making it harder and harder for him to stick around and he also felt
01:08:57
like he was getting pulled in another Direction he really wanted to make a name for himself in Hollywood and it
01:09:03
actually seemed like that dream was headed in the right direction because by 1965 his work in La was finally paying
01:09:10
off and he had landed a job doing the set design for the Sandpiper which was starring Richard Burton and Elizabeth
01:09:17
Taylor who are they I don't know to relative unknowns yeah just like credited briefly yeah then in 1966 film
01:09:25
producer Martin ransohoff is that how you say I think that's how you say that sounds good to
01:09:31
me him he offered Eddie the production design job on don't make waves which was a movie starring Tony Curtis and Sharon
01:09:38
Tate oh Sharon T yeah and it was due to start production that fall now this opportunity was like exactly what he was
01:09:46
hoping for and it was proof to him that he could make it in Hollywood he's starting to make strides and it was also
01:09:53
proof that he could get out from Doris's thumb but Doris lost her GD mind when Eddie
01:10:00
told her about the job office yeah I was thinking it would happen he was sure that she was going to fully freak out if
01:10:06
he told her that he had already accepted the job which he had oh so instead he told her he was only considering it now
01:10:13
Doris was begging him not to take the job and she thought of every last thing she could offer him to stay but he just
01:10:19
wasn't committing one way or the other so she kept begging and pleading for months and months and she invited him to
01:10:25
come to her family estate in Newport Rhode Island for the fall remember rough point from the beginning of the story
01:10:31
okay here's where it becomes a Pinnacle Point of the story now Eddie did finally cave and he agreed
01:10:39
to spend the fall in ref point with Doris and that was a decision that was going to change his life forever oh no
01:10:45
Eddie arrived at Rough Point early in October of 1966 and he had still planned actually to work on don't make waves but
01:10:54
at the time he was really behind on taxes so when Doris offered him more money than he was making before he
01:11:00
couldn't refuse he had to go there with her his plan was to get the work done for Doris that fall and then returned to
01:11:06
Hollywood and begin building the career that he wanted and he was finally going to be free
01:11:10
so it's really unclear what happened on the evening of October 7th but by most accounts Doris's mental state was not
01:11:17
very good that night eek in the months leading up to that fall at ref Point she had been drinking a lot more than usual
01:11:24
she was still using drugs and she was experiencing very intense mood swings and depression that related to her
01:11:31
failed relationship with Joey and then the most and then the recent death of rubarossa this is what he did
01:11:38
and it was that was among like many other things too now she could have she for most of her life was used to getting
01:11:44
what she wanted she even meant she could get from them what she wanted but at some point they were gonna leave her and
01:11:51
move on to someone else and now it seemed like that was happening with Eddie and she simply couldn't take it
01:11:56
yeah no that fall she had rented a 1966 Dodge polara station wagon to use while she and Eddie were in Newport on the
01:12:05
evening of the seventh when she was not in a very good headspace they got into the station wagon a little after 4 pm
01:12:11
they were going to actually meet with the president of the Newport preservation Society because Doris
01:12:16
wanted to discuss her interest in funding a project that was actually going to preserve a lot of newport's
01:12:22
historic homes oh she was like I want to pay for that that's pretty cool yeah it
01:12:26
was also probably a really good tax write-off yeah but I'd say so for one reason or another Eddie and Doris were
01:12:33
arguing with each other even before they headed out and they were still said to be arguing as they were getting into the
01:12:38
car and when they got to the bottom of the driveway leading to the road Eddie put
01:12:43
the car in park pulled the parking brake and hopped out of the driver's seat to open the large iron gates so they could
01:12:49
pull out I'm very nervous you should be okay as he turned around to start back walking back to the car he saw that
01:12:57
Doris had moved from the passenger seat to the driver's seat where she disengaged the parking brake shifted the
01:13:03
car into drive and quote pressed down so hard on the accelerator that she left tire wide gouge marks in the gravel oh
01:13:12
my the car sped forward struck Eddie which sent him flying up onto the hood then she tapped the brakes he rolled off
01:13:21
the car and landed in the middle of Bellevue Avenue holy [ __ ] she stopped the car momentarily while Eddie laid
01:13:28
screaming in the middle of the road and then she hit the accelerator again drove
01:13:33
forward crushing Eddie under the front tires oh my God and dragging his body across the Street under the weight of
01:13:40
the station wagon before the car jumped onto the curb on the opposite side of the street drove through a fence and
01:13:47
came to a stop when she finally hit a tree holy [ __ ] so Days Later an autopsy would show that
01:13:54
the first impact had broken Eddie's hip which had sent him up onto the hood but the second impact caused crushing
01:14:01
injuries to his lungs spinal cord and brain which killed him almost instantly damn the police arrived on the scene no
01:14:09
more than five minutes later it said where they found Doris in a daze behind the wheel of the car
01:14:14
Eddie or excuse me Edward Angel who was the first officer to arrive he remembered seeing a small amount of
01:14:20
blood coming from Doris's mouth and his report describes that as a steering wheel injury
01:14:27
but other than that she was physically fine as he approached the car she jumped from
01:14:32
the driver's seat and just started frantically pacing back and forth and then she ran back into her Mansion
01:14:38
looking for someone named ed even though she knew he was underneath the car she had just driven over him oh
01:14:44
no now once they were able to calm her down police escorted her to the new nearby Newport Hospital where she was
01:14:51
treated for facial cuts and severe shock but other than that she was literally fine oh no so the next day this is very
01:14:59
upsetting it's horrible yeah the next day the local paper the Newport Daily News ran with the headline Doris Duke
01:15:06
kills friend in car crash the article was like very light on information and noted that Police Chief Joseph Reedus or
01:15:14
yeah Raiders quote could not be reached for comment on the case oh and reporters
01:15:20
were told that he would not be available that day for questions it would actually be two days before the
01:15:25
police chief made a statement to the Press about the death of Eddie torella and when he did it was to inform them
01:15:31
that in an investigation had been conducted and it was determined that Eddie's death was the result of an
01:15:38
unfortunate accident oh that's okay that's what we're going with yeah okay according to Doris who wasn't
01:15:47
interviewed by the police until over a day after the incident okay she was in the passenger seat when Eddie got out to
01:15:55
open the gates she slid over into the driver's seat to drive the car out onto the street she told police it was
01:16:01
something we'd done hundreds of times before but this time she said quote the car
01:16:06
leaped forward and after that everything was a blank oh my cars usually like don't Leap Forward
01:16:14
I've never had that experience the old car leapt forward defense very similar to doggate my home
01:16:22
yeah that's not a great defense now the only other information that the police was the police chief was willing to
01:16:28
report on was that as far as he knew Eddie and Doris were quote on very good terms
01:16:34
no they were not no no the hell they were they were literally arguing as they got into the car and he was planning on
01:16:41
leaving and she was begging him not to oh no now two days after he responded to questions from the Newport Daily News a
01:16:48
larger Press Conference was held and the police chief told reporters that tyrella's death was definitely an
01:16:54
accident quote and quote as far as we're concerned the case is closed how was that quick quick Hush Hush bye-bye how
01:17:01
though is what I need to know yeah how though yeah so Doris may have been able to use her money to hide from uh any
01:17:09
kind of responsibility or public scrutiny in the past but times had changed and people cared a lot less in
01:17:14
1966 about this random American socialite times they are a changing they were pissed by the lack of information
01:17:21
on the case yeah and they found it extremely suspicious in Newport the Press were super critical of the way
01:17:29
that this was handled and the way that the police released information and they felt actually like the police Chief had
01:17:35
handled similar incidents poorly because in the years past he had written off crimes like this that involved the rich
01:17:42
summer residence shocking even though people were upset and critical over the investigation it still
01:17:50
seemed like whatever had happened at the gates of rough Point were to remain a mystery and as far as Doris Duke was
01:17:56
concerned Eddie torella's death was nothing more than a tragic accident and she went on to live the rest of her life
01:18:03
saying so that is shocking shocking that that just was like Crescendo Crescendo Crescendo
01:18:11
then it's like no it's fine oh no we're not done yet like but I mean like that part of it oh yeah just that it's like
01:18:16
it ended oh and this big crazy thing happened and oh my God but everything was fine it was an accident yeah it was
01:18:22
just like you're like oh don't you know that car sleep forward you should watch out you don't even have time to be like
01:18:27
oh no because like oh oh okay well it's just an accident okay right we're just gonna live the rest of our lives that's
01:18:32
fun insane what the [ __ ] so the following year Eddie's five siblings filed a wrongful death suit against
01:18:38
Doris in the superior court of Rhode Island they were seeking 2.5 million dollars in Damages and they alleged that
01:18:45
Doris had quote negligently and carelessly operated the car that led to their brother's death which is literally
01:18:51
the truth damn now the case actually eventually made its way to the Supreme Court of Rhode Island in 1973 but the
01:18:59
adjusted justices mostly sided with Doris and the family only received a nice say only because she's a
01:19:06
billionaire yeah 75 000 wow that's it wow like who did you pay off I'd be so pissed they were also treated terribly
01:19:19
by her legal team they made it seem like Eddie was like worse like they made it seem like he was worse than Doris
01:19:26
somehow what the [ __ ] yeah very strange and in the uh sorry I messed up hold on
01:19:34
oh salimi what I meant was it was worse in the way that the family was treated by the legal team during the trial
01:19:41
particularly when it came to their brother's Legacy they described him as an opportunist who hung around famous
01:19:48
people hoping their talent and fame would rub off on him wow I'm like okay no he didn't need it to he was
01:19:55
incredibly talented on his own I was just gonna say like let's just ignore the fact that he had any success on his
01:20:00
own yeah absolutely actually didn't need Doris ignore all that fully intending to
01:20:04
leave her employment I don't know his niece later told the reporter she killed him twice she destroyed his body and
01:20:10
then eviscerated his memory yeah which is so sad that is so sad and throughout the trial investigators privately and
01:20:16
publicly tried to get any information from Doris about the incident or the accident excuse me but by then she had
01:20:22
completely shielded herself with lawyers and doctors that made it impossible to get anywhere near her damn but by the
01:20:31
early 1990s she was a [ __ ] shell of herself after Eddie's death she pulled even more into herself and she became
01:20:38
almost entirely reclusive and more and more people were cast out of her Circle in the end there was only a very small
01:20:45
group of doctors lawyers and quote-unquote Hangers On who hoped she was just going to leave them something
01:20:50
in the will oh when she turned 79 in 1992 allegedly her Butler talked her into getting a
01:20:57
facelift and that started a slew of health problems oh it would go on to include a broken hip
01:21:04
um a knee replacement surgery and a Severe stroke in the fall of 1993. [ __ ] is so scary right like the stuff
01:21:13
that can happen from plastic surgery yeah and you hear about like implants and stuff like that scary stuff like
01:21:19
health problems that can come from it it's crazy watch Michelle visage's documentary on that yeah it freaked me
01:21:25
out I was like okay never never but on October 28 1993 Doris Duke did die of a cardiac arrest at 80 years old damn she
01:21:35
had no children and no spouse to leave her enormous Fortune too wow because she had a huge falling out with the woman
01:21:42
that she had adopted oh I forgot she stopped at a 30-something-year-old yeah but they had a huge falling out and
01:21:48
that's like its own whole separate story that involves her very shady Butler oh holy [ __ ] but she left a lot of her like
01:21:55
enormous Fortune to the butler I knew it and a lot of people speculate on his motivations and whether or not he
01:22:04
had something to do with accelerating her death I'll say oh boy yeah yeah but that's like layered and it's for another
01:22:11
time velocity so when Doris passed away most people figured any Revelations about the more mysterious aspects of her
01:22:19
life had gone with her especially um the accident that murdered Eddie torella yeah that's a big one yeah but that all
01:22:25
changed in the summer of 2020. whoa when journalist Peter Lance published an article about Eddie turrella's death in
01:22:33
Vanity Fair I love Vanity Fair I do too I actually just signed up to get their hard copies too nice because I had
01:22:38
online access and then I got like signed up for some reason and I was like ooh give me hard copies yeah they have great
01:22:43
articles they do now Peter Lance he had actually been born and raised in Newport
01:22:47
and he remembered not only Eddie's death but the controversy and the suspicion surrounding it a lot of people in town
01:22:54
believed that there was a cover-up and the story he wrote prompted a flood of comments and memories from newport's
01:23:01
residents who pretty much confirmed the suspicious nature of the quote-unquote accident oh man one man in particular
01:23:08
would take Peter down a path that would eventually uncover what many except as the truth about Eddie's death what Bob
01:23:17
Walker was a 13 year old paper boy living in Newport when Eddie turrella was killed and on the afternoon of the
01:23:24
quote-unquote accident he was out on his route delivering papers near the rough Point Mansion when he heard a commotion
01:23:31
coming from the direction of a massive estate he would later tell Peter quote I initially heard the argument and
01:23:37
screaming of two people and he said because it was usually such a calm and quiet area it was very easy
01:23:43
to hear that these people were definitely pissed off at each other he said the argument was followed by
01:23:48
silence and then quote the Roar of a motor the crash and the screaming of a man oh no now according to Bob he could
01:23:56
hear the accident happen and rush to the scene arriving well before the police did and when he got to the gates he said
01:24:02
Doris was just getting out of the car and was staring down at the wreckage when he wrote up on his bicycle and he
01:24:08
asked if he could do anything to help because he had no idea what was going on Doris turned to him pointing and
01:24:14
screaming you better get the hell out of here oh that just gave me chill and then she
01:24:21
began what he described as a kind of crouched pacing in front of the car like she was trying to block his view of
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whatever was beneath it and she kept yelling at him get out of here now it was literally like walking around like a
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carnival like an animal exactly like an animal holy [ __ ] hiding his View so Bob was completely shaken by this and
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as far as he could tell she wasn't hurt so he got back on his bike and got out of there because he had that's all he
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had seen yeah he's like what the [ __ ] but when he got his bundle of papers for
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delivery the next day he saw that headline about the accident and he read the article but everything in the paper
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didn't match what he had seen and heard that afternoon so he ran home to tell his father and explain what had happened
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the day before but he got a very different reaction than what he was expecting when he got
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home and he told his dad everything his dad grabbed him by the shirt and slammed
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him up against the wall and told him no you listen to me son you will never ever
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tell anybody this story again you will not tell your brother you will not tell your friends
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all and of all people you're not going to say anything to the police do you understand me do you understand me what
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Bob Walker did not understand because his dad was usually completely adamant that his children always tell the truth
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but Bob said he was so serious that it was scary and he didn't want to say anybody didn't want to say anything to
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anybody about what he had seen until years and years later and by that point everybody had more or
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less forgotten about Eddie turella [ __ ] so years like way down the road years later as his dad was declining in health
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Bob asked his dad why he reacted that way and this is what his dad told him you know son at the time when you told
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me the story I recognized that you could have shown motive and intent I was concerned that you as a key witness
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could have gone or could have been doing your paper route on the Ocean Drive and
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a Truck could have come up on you from behind the life of my child was more precious to me than that woman on
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Bellevue Avenue that's why I reacted the way I did oh my God so basically he was
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saying like that woman has all the money in the world and all the power and I was
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protecting you you a little informant anything could have happened to you or our family and I love you more than I
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love anyone in this world oh my God I got full chills because at first I was so mad at Bob Walker's Dad when I first
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read it I was like what the hell seeing in my head I was like he's scared he's scared like he's scared that something
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is going to happen to his kid and he's like I don't give a [ __ ] about anybody else right I care about you when I found
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that out I was like I'm literally crying because I would be the same way you don't give a [ __ ] about anybody else
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exactly I'm protecting you exactly damn and the thing is even if Bob had gone to
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the police and spilled everything that he had seen that day it wouldn't have made a difference
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no because Doris was spending all that money restoring the home exactly so it wouldn't have made it the only
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difference it would have made was putting Bob in danger exactly so but literally the reason why Eddie's death
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was covered up is because she had so much money and power and she was doing so much for the community that they were
01:27:38
like okay we'll take blood money for you to restore these homes damn so as Peter dug
01:27:46
deeper into Bob Walker's story he found that there were other people who had come to similar conclusions about
01:27:51
Eddie's death including a police Sergeant who had been assigned to the case at the time his report concluded
01:27:58
there was no way this could have been an accident and that tyrella's death was most certainly intentional and he also
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learned that right after the accident Doris hired the County's acting medical examiner the one who was literally
01:28:11
filing the autopsy and the death certificate as her private doctor wow conflict oh I'm interested I was
01:28:20
gonna say can you say and there were other people in town including police chief Reedus there whose lives and
01:28:27
personal fortunes seemed to drastically improve in the weeks and months following Eddie's death holy [ __ ] AKA
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she paid a [ __ ] ton of people that certainly looks that way allegedly so Peter allegedly Peter definitely took
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all that information to the police and they sat on it until they felt enough public pressure to reopen the case whoa
01:28:51
and they especially felt that pressure after Peter Lance's book homicide at Rough point which I definitely recommend
01:28:58
reading was published now unfortunately the reinvestigation of the case was just
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as doomed as the initial case and just after a few days of review days the Newport Police determined quote that
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new evidence presented in the book is insufficient to Warrant further investigation I love that they were like
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we've thought about it for 48 hours and we decided that after that long think on
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it we're not even gonna look into it yeah like that cool in a statement to the Press Town Administrator said it
01:29:28
Remains the opinion of the Newport Police Department that there is not sufficient evidence to draw any firm
01:29:33
conclusions as to the motivations of Mrs or Miss Duke for that reason it appears
01:29:38
that this will continue to be a case that will have to be left to the court of public opinion yes
01:29:45
you can think whatever you want and you're probably right but according to us nah we're going to agree to disagree
01:29:51
but exactly but as far as Peter and pretty much all of the residents of Newport Rhode Island are concerned the
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police had all the evidence that they needed to prove Beyond a reasonable doubt that Doris Duke intentionally
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murdered editorella but it seemed that even 30 years after her death nobody wanted to [ __ ] with the Duke Family name
01:30:13
wow trust no one trust no one and that's the really really sad story of the death
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of Eduardo terrella that is very sad right damn mom what a story a bunker story what a life
01:30:27
what a legacy right what a downfall yeah like [ __ ] I definitely recommend like
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looking even more into Doris because I'm sure that felt like a very long episode
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I think it might have been but there was so many things that I ended up skipping
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over because we could have just been here for like hours and hours that's so that's a wild story she lived a crazy
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ass life yeah and at the end of it she wasn't a great person allegedly allegedly you know you know just say the
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car hopped forward you know maybe the cars do they do Leap Forward allegedly allegedly
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that's all there is allegedly that's it so allegedly we hope you keep listening and we hope you allegedly keep it
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it weird allegedly [Laughter] [Music] foreign