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Hey weirdos. I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And you're listening to Morbid [ __ ] >> Whoa. You are [ __ ]
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>> I changed it up. >> Good morning, good afternoon, good night. You could be driving tomorrow. Of
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course, you could be driving to work, home from work, >> picking up your kid, >> doing laundry,
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>> going to sleep, >> just chilling, >> picking your nose, >> farting. >> I hope you're doing all those things
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simultaneously, though. Driving to and from work at the same time as picking up your kid.
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>> Yeah, I hope you sounded like I sounded like Jou. >> You did. >> You know what really rips?
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>> Driving to and from work, bro. Honestly, if you're not listening to Josh, >> Josh,
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>> uh, it's J A Wsh on T Tik Tok and Instagram, I think you can find. But, >> uh, we love Josh.
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>> We love Josh. >> We love Josh. We love his hottest homie. We changed our husband's contacts to my
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hottest homie >> because of Joshomie. >> Um, he's he's delightful. >> I love him and he will tell you what
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really rips. >> Yeah, he's just literally the most positive person and he's always just
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telling you what rips. in life. >> So if you're looking for something that just rips and to he will show you to
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romanticize the small room moments of life. >> Truly nothing but everything rips.
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>> Today what ripped for him and for us is that it's [ __ ] Friday the 13th. >> Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
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>> And then tomorrow is Valentine's Day. >> Yeah. >> What a [ __ ] weekend we have ahead of
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us. >> What a one-two punch. >> I'm going to see Chicago this weekend. >> That's fun. And I'm going to lose my
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head. I'm going to lose my head. >> I'm going to lose my head. I've never seen Chicago, first of all.
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>> That's going to be great. >> Um, and I'm going to see Whitney from Secret Lives and Mormon Wives. She's
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playing Roxy. And I'm so [ __ ] excited. >> I'm excited for you. >> Thank you. What are you doing this
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weekend? >> Going to the Science Museum in Boston. >> Okay. >> With the kids. >> That's the most us thing ever. I'm like,
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I'm going to New York City for the weekend. And you're like, I'm going to the science museum with my children.
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>> Yep. Um, this will come out after, so don't worry. Nobody Nobody will find us.
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>> Nobody will find us. >> You never know. >> You never want to say your location
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right when you're there. >> No. That's what we are here to teach you. >> Yeah. Little tip from me to you. I don't
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post about [ __ ] until after I finished it. >> Yep. And you should too, all of you
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listening. Yep. >> Um because the world is really [ __ ] crazy right now. >> It's the world is um probably burning a
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little bit. >> Yeah. I think it's what I am hoping >> we're going to rise from the ashes.
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Yeah. Like I hope it's burning because fire is cleansing. >> Agree. >> And we're going to start a new
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>> I love it. >> I think we're going to burn it all down and we're going to start with way less
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pedophiles. >> That'd be dope. >> And way more chill [ __ ] who want to protect kids and don't want to
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be [ __ ] to each other and hateful and divisive. >> Those are my top two things that I want
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in in the new life. >> Yeah, that's all I'm looking for in this new world. >> Those are my New Year's resolutions. I
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hope that the system does in fact crash so that there's less pedophiles and more
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cool people who want to protect kids. >> Yep. >> That's it. That >> it's so simple
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>> that honestly that should be and I know that's there's going to be people that
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are angry at us for saying that. But I can't fathom how you can find something wrong with
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>> you want the system to burn right now. It's been in place since 1776. How could you want less pedophiles? Like
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that's I that's that's something we should all be able to agree on. I think that's the least controversial thing I
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have ever said in my life is we should have less pedophiles. >> Somehow people will find
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>> controversy. But here's the thing. Our listeners, >> no, our listeners, no, >> they're not going to you guys aren't
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going to find it's the bots controversy for sure, you know. Oh my god. But you guys listening, you're you're you get
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it. I'm probably not the first person to ever say this, but God, I hope I am. It's the bots and the ops.
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>> There you go. >> That came to me. >> That came to me. came to me up here in this noggin.
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>> Well, you know what? In the >> in the spirit of um being crazy, being kooky, >> let's talk about amusement park
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disasters. >> You're going to ruin my [ __ ] life like that. You would. >> This honestly would ruin my life. My
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idea Dave, >> our beloved Dave, >> beloved David >> had this idea and I said, "Hell yeah,
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brother. >> It's a great idea." >> Yeah. Except I thought Here's the thing about this show. One of us sitting on
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one of these couches despises amusement parks with her entire >> I bet you can't decide.
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>> The other one of us would literally go to an amusement park every day to be amused.
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>> That sounds horrible. >> Wow. So, you really let them know that. >> We didn't even give that one second to
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last. >> I mean, I think people know. >> I know. I'm kidding. I think people know
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by now. Um, we're going to be talking Well, we have two of these, but today we're going to be talking about
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independent parks. >> Okay. So, we're not going to be talking about, you know, >> the big ones,
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>> the the biggies, >> my faves. >> Uh, we're going to be talking about some independent parks. And this is all just
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things that happened. Like, this isn't, you know, us having opinions on like how
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they're run or anything like that. It's just >> I don't even know how they're run.
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>> These are just things that have happened that have been reported on. >> And let's let's let's start in the way
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back, >> shall we? Um, so this first one I'm going to do my absolute best to not
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butcher the pronunciation, >> but when we get there, we get there and we're going to see what we do. Okay,
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we're going to see how we handle it. >> Okay. >> Um, so as early as the 14th century,
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>> a long ass time, >> long time. People have always loved to attend like big gatherings with other
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people. They love to combine those gatherings with music, food, performances, >> culture
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>> explicitly for the sake of entertainment and enjoyment. We've all needed that
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forever. >> I love entertainment and enjoyment. >> For example, in and here I go with this
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pronunciation. >> I believe in you. >> Linguarbeck. >> Not sure. >> Denmark. And this is in a place called
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Here comes another one. >> Oh, there's more. >> Here comes another one. Hold on. Dire's
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Vakan. >> Direvaken. Dire's Vakan in Denmark. >> Sure. >> Um, that translates Dire's Vakan
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translates to Animal Park Hill. >> Oh. >> Um, it has been entertaining guests for
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nearly 450 years. Initially, >> that's insane. >> Long time. initially with clowns and
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animal shows and music, then with mechanical rides, and eventually with modern thrill rides and roller coasters
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commonly associated with like modern-day amusement parks that we think of. And while it's fair to say that like
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amusement parks that we think of now, like modern ones of the last century or so, can trace at least some of their
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roots to like fairs and carnivals of like the Middle Ages. >> Their real point of origin can be found
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in the mid 19th century quote unquote pleasure gardens of London. >> Not pleasure.
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>> Not pleasure. >> I feel like they should have workshopped that one. >> So these are these are not like the
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sprawling parks filled with mechanical rides that we are thinking of. >> What happens at a pleasure garden?
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pleasure gardens provide and and here's the thing. There's like a there's a there's a there's a lead from these to
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the modern day parks that we're thinking of, but obviously there was a branch off
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of who they were catering to and what they were catering. But the same idea was there of like being a place that is
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purely for amusement. >> Yes, >> what amusement it is. Pleasure gardens are for something different.
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>> Okay. They provided a similar kind of escapism through fantasy entertainment and commercialism that would eventually
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be the the amusement parks we know now. According to British journalist Kath Pound, the pleasure gardens offered
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quote an environment in which societal norms could be cast aside, if only for a few hours. They captivated the public
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with their heady mix of culture, fashion, and vice. >> Yeah, [ __ ] That's why I'm wearing
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Disney ears. Mickey ears. You could also you could also argue that this is kind of like Renaissance fairs like that kind
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of thing, you know. >> Now, during the day, the gardens resembled casual, albeit like more
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fantastical types of social experiences one might find at a fair. >> Okay, that's fun.
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>> But the real thrills came later in the day when the parks began their quote dark walks. These would be led by masked
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performers whose identities, gender, and perhaps even intentions were unknown to
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patrons. You had me up until intentions. You had me until intentions. One thing about me is I want to know a
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motherfucker's intention. This is so interesting. So these dark walks were tours that began in like well-lit areas
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of the park and eventually made their way into the deliberately unlit areas of the garden.
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>> This is [ __ ] up. And as the light began to fade, the whimsical and colorful garden gave way to more
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hedonistic activities. >> [ __ ] what? >> As sex workers would emerge to offer their services in dark corners of the
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garden. >> Okay, that's a fun intention. >> So that all right with that historian
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Jonathan Conland said there wasn't necessarily a clear division between light walks and dark walks. It was a
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question of how far you were prepared to go. >> Oh, okay. All of this is so like just
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it's so fascinating to me that it like a dark walk sounds so terrifying. >> It does. But then sexy people come out.
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>> Yeah. So the real purpose of the pleasure garden and its whimsical tone remain the same as modern-day parks like
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that the tone of everything especially during the day. Rather than simply offering an opportunity for hedonistic
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pleasure, the garden's true purpose was to break down these like rigid social and class barriers of the day that were
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honestly like dictating public life at the time >> and give the people of London a place to
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play, engage in fantasy together >> without the stigmas of the outside world kind of bogging them down.
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>> It was a place to vibe. And the result, or at least the result that was intended, was increased social cohesion
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that minimized conflict, >> which is nice. Everybody got together, enjoy some [ __ ] together that doesn't
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hurt anybody. >> A more contemporary example of these these opportunities for like blowing off
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steam are things like professional sports, >> a shared act interest and activity that
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kind of transcends what would be like pretty restrictive social constructs like race and class. M
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like it's these all kind of when you really look at them that way, you're like these are much more like tightly
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>> uh held together and like woven together than you would think just on the outside.
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>> Agreed. >> Now eventually the explicit hedenism of the pleasure gardens gave way to the
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more commercially oriented boardwalks in places like Coney Island, New York, and
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Santa Barbara, California. >> Beginning in the late 1800s, places like Coney Island offered games,
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performances, and what were then known as freak shows. Mhm. in which real and manufactured medical anomalies were put
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on display for entertainment and amusement. >> I've seen AHS. >> Yeah, exactly. By the end of the decade,
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the mechanical and technological inventions that were unveiled at the 1893 World's Fair in Chicago, where
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HHolmes was busy. >> HH Homes >> um they had begun to make their way onto the boardwalks and small amusement parks
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around the world. These me mechanized rides quickly replace the animal shows with carousels, ferris wheels, and
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roller coasters. And that's when the amusement park thrill rides were born. Let's [ __ ] go. So, by the early 20th
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century, entrepreneurs in North America and Europe started building parks around
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the mechanical rides that drew from the boardwalks and pleasure gardens of the past, including vendors, fantasy
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inspired landscapes, and even mascots. In the early 1940s, Indiana businessman Louis uh Louie Cotch uh developed 260
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acres of land in Santa Claus, Indiana into Santa Claus land. >> Fun. Then that was the nation's first
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theme park. >> Wait, that's actually iconic. >> Isn't that crazy? >> Santa Claus?
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>> Yeah, I'm obsessed. Opening in 1946, Santa Claus Land offered a quote dreamy alpine village with a toy shop, rides
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designed just for children, and daily appearances from [ __ ] Santa himself, y'all.
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>> Let's go. That sounds fun. >> Yeah. Santa Claus Land would go on to inspire other entrepreneurs to develop
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their own properties, including Walt Disney, >> whose own Disneyland opened in 1955,
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modeled in part by Santa Claus Land. >> I didn't know that. Unfortunately, an increase in popularity meant an increase
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in patrons. And with each new person that arrived and each new day that passed, the more likely it became that
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something could go wrong. Yeah, of course. >> Cuz we're not just going to talk about
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how great amusement parks are and how they became a thing. No, it's called morbid.
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>> So, although the rides were generally considered safe, >> I can't at like 1940s, 1950s, I'm like,
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uhoh. >> When I generally they're considered safe. Imagine you get on the ride and
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like you ask and they're like, "Yeah, generally generally it feels like this might be safe.
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>> I'm not going to go on this." >> Yeah. When it comes to something like amusement park safety, the likelihood of
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an accident is a matter of probability to be quite honest. >> In simple terms, each time a ferris
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wheel was put into motion, the worn the more worn the mechanics became. Therefore, the more times a person rode
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a ferris wheel wheel, the more safely the more likely it was that they were going to experience a problem. The more
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safe rides equal we're we're creeping up. >> We're counting down until disaster here.
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>> So the horrible way to think about that. >> It really is. >> I want to be the person that goes on the
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ride like two times after the bad thing. >> Yeah, there you go. >> I'm sorry. >> Wow. I'm sorry.
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>> So that fact was further complicated by the fact that in the case of early amusement parks, rides were typically
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permitted and expected by the same people who gave out licenses for the other park vendors. That's to say that
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these individuals rarely understood how the rides worked, much less whether they
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were safe. >> That's really awesome. >> So, that led to some problems. >> Yeah, I bet.
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>> In 1911, on the River Beach boardwalk, just a few miles outside of Boston, manufacturer Fred Pierce built an early
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wooden coaster named the Derby Racer. See me? I don't [ __ ] with wooden coasters.
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>> And remember, this is before like the Santa Claus land of 1940, whatever. >> Yeah. Among the largest roller coasters
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of the day, the Derby Racer was a standard twotrack coaster where two passenger cars would quote unquote race
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one another side by side. >> Mhm. >> Within just a couple months of being built, the Derby Racer experienced its
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first accident or that's when PFC Arthur Lamar, a sailor on the battleship New Jersey, was thrown from one of the
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coaster cars, quote, traveling at a speed equaling that of a fast express train.
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>> Oh, [ __ ] Although the specifics of how exactly Lamar was thrown from the car,
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his body hit the structural beams of the coaster with quote terrific force, fracturing his skull, breaking his arm
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and causing severe internal injuries. >> Yeah, >> he was rushed to Frost Hospital in
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nearby Chelsea. And while he did survive the accident, he was left with lifelong
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problems as a result. >> A fractured skull will [ __ ] you right up. >> Just a month later, another accident
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occurred on the derby racing. bad probabilities >> when Oscar Young, the assistant manager
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of the ride, was thrown from one of the cars. At the time, Young had been accompanying a group of young women on
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the ride. And according to a press report, at one point, the group quote were making so much noise and moving
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about so actively that Young feared for their safety. As they approached a sharp
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curve in the track, he turned around to remind the young women of the safety protocols. But just as he turned, the
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car lurched slightly to the side and he was thrown from the ride head first. >> Oh [ __ ]
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>> Understandably, the party of young women quote became panicstricken and two of
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the passengers had to be physically prevented from jumping out of the car in terror.
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>> According to the press, quote, "The wild screams of the passengers during the
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rest of the ride cuz they had to finish the ride." >> Yeah. >> To the terminal were heard for half a
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mile and caused intense excitement among the throngs on the beach. Oh, that's horrifying.
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>> Once the cars came to a stop, attendants were able to reach Oscar and move his
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body to the office terminal where he was attended by a local doctor until an ambulance was able to get there an hour
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later. >> Jesus Christ. >> Young was taken to Frost Hospital where they determined both legs were broken,
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one so badly it had to be amputated immediately. >> Oh my god. >> And he'd suffered severe internal
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injuries as well as cuts and lacerations and bruises to his abdomen. Unfortunately, it does appear that he
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didn't survive his injuries. Oh, that's so sad. >> In the two months >> were both of your legs broken and one so
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badly that it needed to be amputated. >> That's nuts. >> In the two months that it had been in
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operation, there had been multiple problems with the derby racer. That should have warranted some
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investigation, including the death of Oscar Young, the injuries to Lamar and other passengers, one of which who broke
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an arm a week before Young's accident. >> So, it was more than just that. Yeah, those were just the two most egregious,
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but the River Board of Selectmen voted to shut down the coaster for just 2 weeks before giving them the go-ahad to
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reopen it after the coaster was examined. >> Did they fix anything? >> Two weeks. They were like, "Seems good
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to me." >> I'm like, "I don't know. I think you should put some mechanisms in place to
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like make it so people stop flying off." Whatever repairs were made to the the derby racer do appear to have made it a
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little safer for riders, but a decade later, the rid's operators found themselves in trouble again.
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>> Hey, a decade is pretty solid. >> Yeah, but I guess so. After two passengers were injured on the Derby
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Racer on the afternoon of September 10th, 1922, 25-year-old Frank Francis and his friend Joseph Jason,
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>> FF and JJ. >> FF and JJ. >> Obsessed. >> And like last name Francis, last name
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Jason. Like what a weird thing to happen. >> That is weird. Like two first names,
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last names. >> They visited the River Beach Boardwalk and Francis decided he wanted to start
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their day at the beach with a ride on the derby coaster, but his friend opted to watch from the platform.
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>> Oh [ __ ] The ride was well underway when for reasons unknown, it came to a lurching halt and Francis and the
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passenger where that he was sharing the car with were thrown from the ride and fell about 6 feet to the ground below.
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Fortunately, the young woman with that Frank was riding with was largely unheard. Frank himself though sustained
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severe lacerations to one side of his body and serious internal injuries. >> So, he survived his injuries, but less
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than a year later, 23-year-old Alice Bluelin and her boyfriend Leland Back were thrown from the Derby racer pretty
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much under similar circumstances. Alice suffered a fractured skull and back was badly cut and bruised, but otherwise was
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okay. In the years that followed that, the operators installed a leather harness to each car as well as a safety
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bar that riders could grab hold of. >> I'm sorry, what was there before? Nothing. They're like, "Hey, I think a
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bar could like push people, you know, like keep them in there." Also, a leather harness. They're like, "What do
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you guys think about a seat belt?" like Jesus. >> Then again, it's like people were just
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like plopping newborns in the back of their seat at their >> seriously. Well, also I mean this was
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what like around like the early to mid 1900s. >> This is like Well, this is in the late
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20s. >> Yeah. That's nuts. >> Yeah. >> Um these safety measures like definitely lowered the risk level, but not
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entirely. In late May 1929, 27year-old JN Clark was thrown from his car when the leather belt quote seemed to slide
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through his hands. and he was thrown from the car and suffered se severe cuts all over his body. So the seat belt was
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just like nah. >> It didn't do a lot. The accident in 1929 resulted in a lawsuit that made its way
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to the state supreme court in 1935. >> Surprised it took that long for a lawsuit.
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>> Yeah. And the court ruled against the ride operators, Ocean View Amusements, who were required to pay a big penalty.
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>> Yeah, I would think. >> The next year the Derby racer was shut down for good and a new coaster was
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built on the site in 1937. >> Really? I feel like even building a new coaster on that site is a bad omen. I
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feel >> so all of the accidents on the Derby racer and coasters like it just highlighted the fact that if nothing
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else, additional safety measures were necessary to ensure that riders lived through the ride.
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>> Yes. Important. >> That said, 20 years after the first death on the Derby racer, another
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accident occurred that called into question the safety of roller coasters altogether.
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the afternoon of July 24th, 1930. It was like any other summer day at Omaha's Krug Park. All afternoon, tons of
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patrons lined up, one after another, to ride the park's most popular attraction,
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which was, of course, a large wooden roller coaster called the Big Dipper. >> Not the wooden roller coasters.
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>> Called the Big Dipper. Like many coasters around the country, the Big Dipper was routinely inspected by a city
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inspector who was more accustomed to inspecting buildings than amusement park rides.
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>> A little different. and he deemed it safe for public use. Looks good to me. >> All righty.
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>> He said, "I don't know. It's not a building." He said, "I guess it's fine. >> I don't know. It's standing."
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>> He said, "Maybe you could live in it if it was stationary. I guess maybe maybe
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you could." >> Despite that approval, however, just weeks earlier, one park worker predicted
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there would be quote a terrible accident on the coaster any day. >> Oh, parker. and he said it was due to
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its constant use but lack of regular maintenance. He was like, "This is just gonna happen. I just wait for it."
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>> Like common sense. >> A little past 7:30 that night, 23 people boarded the train on Big Dipper,
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separated into four connected cars. As the train of cars began climbing the first 75 ft hill, the group of teenagers
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braced themselves for the anticipated rapid descent of the hill. Yeah. Unfortunately, none of them noticed the
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bolt sitting on the track several feet ahead of them. As the car began its rapid descents down the track, the first
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car hit the bolt, tearing loose the brake shoe and lifting the car off the rail, sending it through the guard rail
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and over the side of the coaster. >> Holy [ __ ] >> For several seconds, the first car in
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the train hung over the edge of the coaster, threatening to fall any second. Oh my god. So, 17-year-old Walter Basis
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said, "I could see it happening before our car left the rails. That was the worst part of all. We knew we were going
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to be killed or badly injured, and all we could do was sit there helplessly, trusting in God.
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>> I can't even think about that." >> The first car plunged over the edge, slowly dragging the other others with
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it, plunging 30 feet to the ground below. "Holy God," >> Walter Basis recalled, "I was unable to
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move for a moment. So were the others." Seconds passed by in dead silence. Then somebody screamed and it seemed to
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awaken everybody to their danger. With just seconds to go before being dragged over the edge, several of the passengers
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desperately tried to free themselves from the seats, but being panicked and having no time to act, there was not a
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lot any of them could do. According to 16-year-old Antisanis, who was in one of the rear cars, they
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said, "As the first car went over, people in the second uh the other three screamed and muttered short prayers
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while tugging desperately at their safety belts." >> This is so scary. >> The first car hit the ground just
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seconds after it went over the edge with all the passengers still strapped into the wooden seats. Now, what's very in
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and Dave found this, the first car was dubbed Fred >> and it was named after the former park
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manager friend Ingresol who killed himself a few years earlier. >> Oh god. >> And this car went plunging over the
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side. >> Yeah, that's haunting. >> Isn't that just like haunting? >> Yeah, that is absolutely.
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>> Now, since all the cars were connected, the second, third, and fourth cars fell
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in quick succession. Fortunately, the cars landed in a U formation with the first and fourth cars landing on the
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tracks and the second and third hitting the ground. Had they landed on top of one another, it would have been far more
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devastating than it already was, which was devastating. >> Yeah. >> Omaha firefighter Bren Meister was at
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the park that day and could see the rail infrastructure crumble as the train went
00:24:41
over the edge. He told a reporter, "The cars dropped straight down on the east side of the structure. Some of them
00:24:47
overturned and landed top down with the passengers imprisoned by safety belts and unable to throw themselves free. To
00:24:55
make matters worse, the weight of the cars hanging over the edge before they fell caused the scaffolding in the part
00:25:01
of the coaster to tilt slightly. >> Oh my god. >> So, ride operator Eugene Lewis said, "I
00:25:07
heard wood splintering and saw the first car going over the east. I jumped for the switch and shut the power off. I
00:25:14
thought the other three cars would hold the first track car on the track. Unfortunately, when the cars went over,
00:25:20
a considerable amount of debris from the crumbling track followed, landing on the
00:25:25
victims below. Now, with the power switched off, the second train car, which was a ways behind the one that
00:25:31
went over, was stopped s entirely, and rescuers were able to reach the passengers and get them all to safety.
00:25:37
Other park workers in the area jumped into action with several running to call for emergency services and way more
00:25:45
climbing or tearing down the fencing to get to the victims, >> which is like a moment of humanity that
00:25:51
I'm glad is in here. >> That's rare to see. >> The four passengers in the first car
00:25:55
received the worst of the injuries, >> of course. Yeah. As the first to hit the ground in a car that was overturned, CH
00:26:01
Stout, Ruth Frell, Tony Politica, and Glattis Lund Green were all pinned under the car and trapped by rubble. Although
00:26:09
two managed to survive the initial fall, they died later that afternoon from their injuries. The others were luckier
00:26:16
and managed to survive with terrible injuries. Tony's 16-year-old sister, Mary, who was sitting in the car behind
00:26:23
her brother, sustained a fractured skull and was scalped. Oh my god. [ __ ] Because her head hit a piece of
00:26:32
scaffolding on the way down. Oh my god. I don't think I'm ever riding a roller coaster again.
00:26:38
>> Yeah. >> To be scalped by a roller coaster crash >> Yeah. >> is unthinkable. >> That's happened a few times.
00:26:46
>> Don't you dare. >> That happened recently. What? >> Yeah. >> In fact, hold on. I'm gonna look.
00:26:54
>> She's doing cautionary tales. >> Yeah, it was in 2016. She was 11 years old. >> Oh, where?
00:27:01
>> King's Crown in Omaha, Nebraska. Also happened in the UK in 2025. 18-year-old woman in a fun house ride.
00:27:10
>> Oh my god. >> Yeah. >> I feel like I'm going to throw up. >> 2021, too. It happened. So many people
00:27:18
scalped by posters. >> Yeah. And and this is just this is, you know, I'm not trying to tell anybody what to
00:27:25
do. >> Yes, she is. >> Um because again, like these, you know, they get checked and this it's a thrill
00:27:32
ride is a thrill ride. It's a thrill ride because you're out of control. It's just the way
00:27:36
>> you're supposed to be thrilled. >> You are absolutely supposed to be safe >> and thrilled. But you know, this would
00:27:43
not thrill me. >> This would not thrill me. And again, this is the early days of of thrill
00:27:49
rides. >> You better you better keep it there, sister. >> And obviously I've given you some modern
00:27:54
uh examples of this, but >> but like this, I'm sorry. She's sorry. >> She's sorry. She's sorry.
00:28:04
>> It's like I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Um so that's terrible. Walter Bazis, who we quoted before, suffered a broken collar
00:28:12
bone. >> Oh, that's so painful. In addition to severe cuts and bruises to his face,
00:28:16
14-year-old Robert Lindström, who was visiting the park with his family that day and riding in the third car,
00:28:22
suffered a broken arm and surgeons had to amputate one of his fingers because the crush injuries were too impossible
00:28:29
to repair. >> Wow. >> Other passengers managed to escape with relatively minor injuries. Like when
00:28:35
you're considering considering Walter Bazis' brother, 20-year-old Andrew, for example, had superficial cuts and
00:28:41
bruises and a severe sunburn from laying trapped beneath the debris for an extended period of time while rescuers
00:28:48
tended to the most hurt people. >> You get through all of that and you get severe burns. That's horrific.
00:28:55
>> Even some who weren't on the ride that afternoon were not free of the harm of
00:28:59
this tragic event. Upon seeing the cars go over the edge and plummet to the ground below, a 27year-old woman fainted
00:29:05
and subsequently went into shock. >> Oh wow. >> She was taken to the hospital along with
00:29:10
the other victims and released several hours later. Um similarly, sisters Leona and Mary Brundy, 12 and 10 years old,
00:29:17
survived the accident with minor injuries. But later that night, it was determined that the accident had been so
00:29:23
psychologically traumatizing that both girls needed to be taken back to the hospital for treatment.
00:29:28
>> Absolutely. That's a Yeah, >> you can picture this in your head, but you can't imagine seeing this in person
00:29:35
and what that would do to your brain because you're not supposed to see people in real life
00:29:41
>> in like these insanely violent situations >> and just seeing you can you can picture
00:29:46
it in your head, but it wouldn't be what you would actually. You know what I mean? Like
00:29:50
>> you you can't conceive of disaster in that way. >> Yeah. It's like seeing like you think
00:29:55
you could see it like you're like, "Oh, I've seen Final Destination. I've seen weird [ __ ] like that happen." But it's a
00:30:01
totally different thing. >> Yeah. >> Within two hours of the accident, it was as though nothing had happened. Were it
00:30:07
not for the mountain of debris and wreckage, one would assumed it was just another night at the park. Just kept on
00:30:14
moving. >> They didn't shut down the park. >> Nope. According to one reporter, once
00:30:18
the firefighters and ambulance were gone, quote, "The concessionaries hawkked their wares. Sightseers took
00:30:23
themselves to other rides and the orchestra struck up. >> It's like the Titanic.
00:30:28
>> Yeah. >> Hello. >> It was only after Omaha safety commissioner John Hopkins arrived a
00:30:32
little before 11:00 p.m. that the park shut down for the night. >> Are you kidding me? Just
00:30:37
>> nuts. How could you just be like, "Well, guess I'm going to go on the Tilta World
00:30:41
now." Like, what are you? >> Like, what the [ __ ] >> People just died. Upon viewing the scene
00:30:46
at the park, several of the rid's usual attendants were baffled as to what the [ __ ] could have caused this accident. As
00:30:53
Jean Lewis, who was a Big Dipper operator, said, "As far as I know, it's still as sound as a dollar.
00:30:59
>> I don't think it is because there's a big crumbling mess where it was." >> I have one foolproof way to tell that
00:31:05
your ride is not operating as sound as a dollar. >> When it crumbles to the ground.
00:31:10
>> Yeah. And a girl when somebody gets scalp. Like, are you That's [ __ ] joking. That'll tell you it's not
00:31:15
running tiptop. >> Wow. >> It was only after the debris had been cleared and the structure formally
00:31:20
evaluated that they realized a bolt had come loose in the structure and fallen onto the tracks, which to me that's the
00:31:28
scariest part about this because how innocuous. >> That's so innocuous. >> Yeah,
00:31:33
>> that could just happen. >> Yeah, easily scares because a bolt is so small. >> It's just human.
00:31:38
>> Like that's just human [ __ ] >> I know. >> Like we can only tighten a bolt so much.
00:31:42
I know they use like machines to do that now, but it's like I don't know. Error happens. That just freaks me out.
00:31:48
>> Well, especially like in this is just my opinion. Especially with a wooden coaster.
00:31:54
>> Oh, especially there's there's too much at risk there. >> And I know like that's just like that
00:31:59
I'm always terrified of these kind of things because like as like I'm sure that like there's a a small subsection
00:32:06
of listeners who are like Elena's the most paranoid person ever. How annoying. I I know. Sometimes it pays to be
00:32:14
paranoid. >> Sometimes it pays to be paranoid. I'm probably I'll still go on some rides,
00:32:19
but like I'm >> You're going to keep the Keep your eyes open. You're going to keep your eyes
00:32:24
open. That's the thing. I'm not I'm not advocating for people to like just stop living their lives and stop doing these
00:32:30
fun things because this [ __ ] can happen. >> Just be informed. >> Just be informed of it.
00:32:33
>> That's all. So you're a little more aware. Maybe a little more be knowledge is indeed power. Maybe don't do the
00:32:42
wooden ones. >> Yeah. And it's like if you want I just think you need to be be careful and you
00:32:48
just got to again have the knowledge going in so you can be better prepared >> and listen to the safety protocols.
00:32:54
>> Enjoy your thrill rides. I I mean maybe if it's really going to affect how you
00:32:59
go about an amusement park ride, this isn't the episode for you. But >> just know that nobody's advocating for
00:33:06
no amusement parks or rides here. >> Just make sure you're informed. advocating for that.
00:33:11
>> It's like hearing about a plane crash. Like it's not that you shouldn't get on
00:33:14
a plane ever again. It's just like you're informed now of what can happen. >> The statistics.
00:33:19
>> Exactly. But I just wanted to be clear about that that I'm not being like, "See, I told you that abuse parks are
00:33:24
dumb." >> Like this is just, you know, a little little subsection of it. >> Yeah.
00:33:29
>> Um so yeah, they they noticed the bolt. Um, had the entire structure been firm
00:33:33
and sound, the guardrail probably could have withstood the impact in fact and kept the car from going over the edge.
00:33:41
But when it was inspected after the accident, safety inspectors found that quote, "For 20 ft, the left rail was
00:33:46
splintered and torn away. Part of the guardrail was so rotted it could be crumbled in their fingers." See, I feel
00:33:53
like you guys could have figured that out before this happened. >> Absolutely, they should have.
00:33:56
>> I feel like you should probably just check it every night. Human error. >> Yeah. Um, now at a press conference the
00:34:02
next day, John Hopkins told reporters, "After this accident, I wouldn't permit another roller coaster to be built of
00:34:08
steel. If a loose nut can throw the whole tracks off course, we're not going to have any more roller coasters."
00:34:15
>> Well, he was wrong. >> He said that he he's me. >> Well, he was wrong. >> He's like, "You know what? [ __ ] this."
00:34:22
>> He's like, "One time, no more." >> Yeah. You know what? No. In fact, Hopkins and Omaha Mayor Richard Metaf
00:34:28
responded to the entire tragedy by swearing they would introduce city ordinances banning all roller coasters
00:34:34
in Omaha. >> Wow. >> Which like I get why they went that hard. Absolutely. That was tragic.
00:34:39
>> Yeah. And it those teenagers. A girl got scalped. >> It affected so many people and so many
00:34:43
people too who weren't even on the ride. It's like you know. So within days of the accident, several lawsuits had been
00:34:50
filed against the park by those lawsuiting for days. >> In one case, 20-year-old Andrew Hullman
00:34:57
sued for $20,000 while while 18year-old Joseph Zywick sued for $10,000. Several more suits were after that, and
00:35:06
ultimately the park's $35,000 insurance policy was split up between many of the survivors.
00:35:11
>> Damn. Two of the largest payouts went to 14-year-old Helen Kazagi, $7,000, who
00:35:17
lost an eye in the accident. >> No, don't you dare. >> And Mary Politica, $4,800, whose
00:35:23
injuries were significant. >> Right. >> Tragically, Mary's payout was lost entirely just a few years later when the
00:35:30
bank went under as a result of the Great Depression. >> Oh, that is such [ __ ] >> Now, after the accident, the Big Dipper
00:35:36
was torn down entirely. And thanks to the ordinances put in place by Hopkins and Mayor Metaf, nothing was built at
00:35:43
its place. The owners of Krug Park spent years trying to get the ban lifted so they could rebuild their most popular
00:35:49
attraction because it's all about that money [ __ ] They don't care about human beings.
00:35:53
>> Yeah. But luckily they were unsuccessful cuz it's like Yeah. It's all about money
00:35:57
[ __ ] and they don't care about human beings. Like that's their attitude. But it's like you're going to lose all your
00:36:02
money because your insurance, no insurance, especially after your insurance payout was completely maxed
00:36:08
out. No [ __ ] insurance company is going to be like, "Yeah, let's do that again.
00:36:11
>> Let's give it another shot." >> Guys, the park did struggle significantly in the years after that
00:36:16
and had an unusual run of bad luck that included a massive fire and an armed robbery as well.
00:36:21
>> Oh jeez. >> Finally, after the 1939 summer session, Krug Park closed for good.
00:36:26
>> Yeah, sounds like that's probably good. As the years passed, government officials, insurance companies, and park
00:36:32
owners started taking the health and safety of patrons just a little more seriously.
00:36:36
>> Hey, that's nice. >> Uh they would put in place better safety measures. They just wanted to lower that
00:36:41
risk. >> Yeah. >> You know, that said, it was impossible to remove the risk entirely. And that's
00:36:47
the problem. >> And it was only a matter of time before another disaster did occur
00:36:51
>> probability. And in a rather dark coincidence, when the next major roller coaster catastrophe did finally happen,
00:36:58
it was on a coaster called the Big Dipper. >> Shut up. >> So maybe don't go on a coaster called
00:37:03
the Big Dipper. >> Guys, you heard it here first. >> Yeah. On the morning of May 30th, 1972,
00:37:09
Liz Hey Grieve arrived at the Funf Fair, an amusement park in London's Battery District, uh to they were celebrating
00:37:16
her 15th birthday. More than any other rides, Liz wanted to ride the Big Dipper. It was a large wooden roller
00:37:23
coaster that was built at the park 20 years earlier. The coaster was the main attraction at the park and one of the
00:37:28
biggest thrill rides in London. And although she'd ridden the coaster that day, she wanted to ride it again.
00:37:33
>> Okay. Liz and her friend Allison Cmerford waited in line for the Big Dipper. And when their turn came, they
00:37:40
climbed into one of the cars near the back and buckled their seat belts. As the train reached the first steep
00:37:45
incline, Liz could hear the familiar sound of the struts clicking loudly below the car as the rope pulled the
00:37:51
train up the hill. We've all heard that. >> When they got to the top of the hill,
00:37:56
the riders prepared themselves for that thrilling plunge. But then the train started to roll backwards. At first, Liz
00:38:03
and Allison thought the ride's operator was just messing around, trying to add a
00:38:06
little extra thrill. >> But when she saw the other people on the ride start to panic, Liz realized
00:38:11
something was wrong. >> Oh god. In reality, the train only took a few seconds to hurdle back to the
00:38:17
bottom of the hill at high speed, Liz recalled. But it felt like a long time, and I had this logical thought process
00:38:23
that we're just going to swing up the hill behind us and back again and eventually come to a stop. By the time I
00:38:29
thought all that, we'd crashed through the bottom of it and we're buried in debris.
00:38:33
>> Oh my god. >> Because it makes sense her thinking. Yeah. >> Well, we're just going to go down and
00:38:37
then we're going to swing back up and it's going to be like a metronome and eventually like a pendulum eventually.
00:38:42
were going to just kind of stop, >> right? >> Nope. It crashed directly through the
00:38:45
bottom. >> Way too going way too fast. >> They were going way too fast. >> Another passenger, Carolyn Adams,
00:38:53
remembered the moment the car started going in the opposite direction. She said, "As soon as we started shooting
00:38:58
backwards, everything went into slow motion. I turned around and saw the brake man desperately trying to put the
00:39:04
brake on, but it wasn't working. Imagine seeing the man trying to pull the brake." No.
00:39:10
>> Carolyn wasn't the only one who noticed the panic in that man's face. 13-year-old Susan Smith said, "I thought
00:39:17
at first he was just trying to frighten us. Then it was his face. It was white and terrified." Oh, that poor guy, too.
00:39:23
Just trying his car shot back down the hill at an unreasonable speed. And when it hit the first turn in the track, the
00:39:31
first car shot straight through the guard rail and hung over the edge about 50 ft above the ground.
00:39:37
>> Holy [ __ ] Caroline's car was relatively undamaged, though they were in a very
00:39:41
precarious position on an unstable part of the track. The girl next to her was screaming and trying to get out of the
00:39:47
car, and when she leaned on the wooden barrier, it collapsed. >> Oh, [ __ ] >> Carolyn said, "I tried to grab for her,
00:39:55
but I saw her fall to the ground in front of me 50 ft in the air. >> God." >> Carolyn tried to calm everyone down and
00:40:02
explained that they needed to be very still, and she would get out of the car and walk down the tracks to get help.
00:40:07
Bad [ __ ] alert. So Carolyn tried to calm everyone down and explained that they needed to be very still and she
00:40:12
would get out of the car and walk down the tracks to get help which like >> always a woman
00:40:16
>> bad [ __ ] who's like on her woman saving the day. >> She said, "Everyone shut up. We need to
00:40:21
calm down. >> I got this." >> She carefully climbed out of the car and slowly made her way to the edge of the
00:40:25
tracks to find the safest route down. But as she started walking, she realized the tracks were slick with blood. Oh,
00:40:34
[ __ ] This is awful. Liz Hay Grieve and Allison Cmerford had been in the car that went over the edge and eventually
00:40:42
plummeted to the tracks below, which were still 30 feet off the ground. Miraculously, Allison was unharmed, and
00:40:48
when she managed to pull herself out from under some of the debris, she started moving the larger pieces off the
00:40:54
car in an effort to free Liz. When she finally removed all the debris, Liz was in tremendous pain from a broken arm and
00:41:02
dislocated shoulder. Oh god. But she managed to get to her feet. They made their way to the small walkway beside
00:41:08
the tracks, intending to walk down. But as soon as Allison stepped onto the walkway, the boards beneath her feet
00:41:14
cracked and she fell 30 ft down below. Despite her severe injuries, Liz was determined to reach her friend and
00:41:22
started climbing down the scaffolding >> with a dislocated shoulder and broken arm.
00:41:28
>> She said there was chaos, lots of screaming. Parents had been watching their children on the ride, so they were
00:41:33
obviously panicking. After a few minutes, I could hear sirens. When she finally reached the ground, Liz intended
00:41:40
to get to Allison, but before she could get there, two adults grabbed her, trying to help her.
00:41:45
>> And she said, "They got hold of me, one on each side, and said, "We're taking
00:41:49
you to first aid." They sort of frog marched me away from her. >> Oh. When Liz finally managed to find
00:41:55
Allison, she'd been moved away from the wreckage and laid out on a grassy area with several other injured riders.
00:42:01
Allison was unconscious, but was the one of the first to be taken to the hospital. In the days after that, she
00:42:06
seemed to be improving, but a couple of weeks later, her condition took a turn and she succumbed and died. Oh.
00:42:13
>> Allison Cmerford was one of five children who died as a result of the accident. The others were 14-year-old
00:42:19
David Sate, 8-year-old Shirley Nash, 13-year-old Thomas Harmer, and 12-year-old uh Deborah Robertson, and 13
00:42:28
others who suffered non-fatal injuries. >> Wow. >> Like tragic. >> I just can't get past the the track
00:42:36
being >> slick with blood. >> From the perspective of those watching the accident from the ground, the scene
00:42:42
was a [ __ ] nightmare. When the train first hit the first curve in the tracks, it seemed like everything exploded.
00:42:48
People said some of the riders were like thrown from the cars and landed somewhere on the structure. Others
00:42:55
remained strapped into the car or were buried under debris. Shirley Nash's father, David, said, "I watched the
00:43:02
carriage climb up to the first rise and then it just fell back and rolled down, throwing the children out."
00:43:08
>> Oh. Oh, God. That sentence alone. >> Yeah. In the months that followed, an investigation determined the accident
00:43:16
was initially caused by a break in the rope that pulled the cars. But that that was just the first link in like a chain
00:43:24
of problems that led to this tragedy. After the rope broke, the emergency brake to stop the train failed.
00:43:30
>> Yeah. >> As the train moved, it picked up speed, causing the last car to jump the track
00:43:34
when it hit the curve in the track. When structural engineer Carl Carlton Boswell
00:43:39
examined the structure of the Big Dipper, he identified dozens of walkways, handrails, and parts of the
00:43:45
track that were unsafe, including the walkway that gave out under Allison Cmerford's feet.
00:43:51
>> Wow. >> So, that could have been fixed. >> Yeah. >> The following year, ride manager and the
00:43:56
engineer were put on trial for criminal negligence and manslaughter, among other
00:44:01
charges relating to the injuries, >> as they should be. During his opening statements, prosecuting attorney Henry
00:44:06
Pawnhill, Pawn Hall, excuse me, pointed to the many structural problems and defects with the ride, telling the jury
00:44:12
the Big Dipper was quote, "quite literally a death trap." >> Yeah, it sounds like it.
00:44:16
>> Pointing to Allison's death, Pawn Hill emphasized the fact that this was wasn't
00:44:21
simply a tragic accident, but a matter of ongoing negligence that created an unsafe environment in myriad ways.
00:44:28
Despite the evidence and compelling testimony, the jury determined there was not sufficient proof to support the
00:44:33
charges and the two men were cleared. >> That's shocking. >> That's [ __ ] The Big Dipper was
00:44:39
quickly reopened. >> Are you joking? >> With a more modern metal coaster, but the accident and the trial that followed
00:44:45
had done a lot of damage to the representation of the operators and the ride itself. And the ride closed
00:44:51
permanently in the fall of 1974. >> Yeah, that ride should have never been reopened. Thinking back on the accident,
00:44:57
Liz Hay Grieve told a reporter, "I always think about Allison and about the randomness of how it's one person and
00:45:03
not another, and that's just horrible. It's really easy to take life for granted, but it's a bit of a nudge in
00:45:08
the ribs every so often that says it's not like this for everyone." >> Wow. Isn't that like
00:45:15
>> poetic? I was going to say I just warmed. >> I think that's a good quote to end on.
00:45:19
Yeah, that's that was powerful >> cuz although all of this is very tragic, I think that is a very um
00:45:27
>> that's a really good way of looking at it. >> Yeah, it's a reminder like that life is
00:45:31
literally so fragile. If it's not one person, it's the other and you can't tell which one is going to have that
00:45:37
kind of experience and where tragedy is going to hit. >> And it's a good little little nudge in
00:45:43
the ribs. >> That's a real [ __ ] message, especially right now. >> Yeah, it really is. But all of these
00:45:49
things, I mean, luckily these rides were torn down, other things were built in their place. Sometimes not even rides.
00:45:55
So >> sometimes people, it's nice that sometimes people got payouts. >> Yeah. >> Not a lot, but
00:45:59
>> And that it showed like a lot of people came running to these tragedies and like
00:46:03
to help victims. >> It highlighted humanity in a in a horrible way and in a nice way.
00:46:08
>> It really did, >> which is usually what we do here. >> It highlighted both for sure because the
00:46:12
ones that were like And then the park just kept operating as nothing happened. >> Yeah, that's nuts.
00:46:16
>> I'm like, really, guys? Uh but yeah, so we'll we'll be punctuating every once in
00:46:20
a while. We'll do one of these episodes. Um you know, >> every now and again. >> Every now and then.
00:46:27
>> Spooky road. Spooky lighouses. >> Yeah, which we we need to do one of those. We haven't done one of those in a
00:46:32
while. >> Let me tell you, honey, I'm craving a spooky road in particular. >> I am craving spooky anything. I live
00:46:41
every day spooky, but I'm ready for fall. And I know I know it's not even March.
00:46:47
>> I know. >> But you know me. >> I know >> you guys know me. I know you >> you get it. You know it's in my heart.
00:46:54
>> I get it. But uh >> you got a fun fact for us, please. >> I do have a fun fact.
00:46:58
>> Hit me up. Is it fun? Your face is weird. >> No, it's a fun fact. It's uh these are
00:47:04
two groupings of animals that I think is really funny what they're named. >> Tell me.
00:47:08
>> A group of pandas is called an embarrassment. >> Oh, that's not embarrassing. And a group
00:47:13
of pugs is a grumble. >> A grumble. Oh, I want a grumble. >> Just a grumble of pugs.
00:47:19
>> I want a grumble of pugs up in my house. >> I love that a lot. >> I got a grumble in this house.
00:47:24
>> One funny thing that this is just like a funny little like anecdote that I have
00:47:29
that I have to say cuz you guys will get it. Um, you know, like what a big fan I
00:47:34
am of like Pin Head and Hellraiser. >> Yeah. >> Movies. uh like a like last summer or
00:47:40
whenever it was. I got to like have lunch with Doug Bradley and his wife Steph who I absolutely [ __ ] adore.
00:47:46
>> I know. >> And we had lunch in Salem. It was great. And they're so easy to hang out with.
00:47:52
Like it was a real dream come true moment. >> I've only met them on Zoom, but they're
00:47:56
so kind. >> A real pinch me moment. and Steph got up to go to the bathroom and I was just
00:48:00
sitting with Doug and at the And I was just like for a moment I got like a super like moment of like I'm just
00:48:07
sitting here with Doug Brad like what do I talk to him about even though like Steph makes it so easy to talk with
00:48:12
anybody. >> Yeah. >> And so as soon as she left he just started naming he was like did you know
00:48:19
that groups this group of animals is called this? >> I love that. >> And this group of animals is called
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this. And immediately I was like oh we're good. We're good. Like it was immediately like, "Oh, you said I I'll
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survive this. >> You are one of us. >> Not only will I survive this, I will thrive in this.
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>> I will thrive in this." Like it was it was such a good moment. I was like, "Of
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course." Like that that's amazing. >> He said, "Tell me all of that Doug Bradley and his wife are are [ __ ]
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peaches." Cuz she came I think Steph came back and we just kept naming animals. >> She just comes back from the table like
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>> And this group of animals >> and this I think I think he said a group of of owls is called a parliament. Oh,
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love that. Is that what it is? I'll check it. Group of owls called >> I wish they were just called
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>> Parliament. I wish they were just called the who just that would be funny, >> right? But yeah, that was my little uh
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like little side story with that >> love. >> And to let you know that Doug Bradley
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and his wife Steph are really top-notch. >> She really just gave you many fun facts
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in our fun fact segment. >> I really did. >> How am I going to top that next episode?
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>> That's a that's a that's two fun facts for the price of one. >> The funnest facts. And again,
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go to amusement parks, have your fun. >> Yeah. Just look at the tracks. >> Just be aware.
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>> That's all. >> Hey, and you know what else? Keep listening. We hope you do. We hope you
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keep listening. >> And we hope you >> keep it weird, but not so weird as um not so weird that if you change the
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wording of the ending of our show that we've been doing for like 8 years, even slightly, I fall apart at the scenes and
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cannot respond. >> I saw that. The slightest change. >> I thought I said I [ __ ] up.
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>> I said miss just over here. >> Slightest change.