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I wanted to say no I'm just kidding this is a message because I think a couple of
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episodes ago we talked about how we are going back to the OG way of doing things
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we're doing two episodes a week two big old honking delicious juicy episodes with one listener tale a month just as a
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little Cherry a little glitter on top of a crazy month and we're going to keep doing that but I think we were also
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debating what days would be best for this new two episode a week Cadence because we figured you know from
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Wednesday to Monday is a long wait for us and for you two much we'd all be sad we don't want that so we finally came up
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with a good Cadence we're gonna drop episodes on Monday and Thursday from here on out so Mondays Thursdays that's
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when they'll come out on one degree plus then a week later you will get them Monday and Thursday for everybody else
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so that's what we're gonna do you deserve consistency we want to give it to you I
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know we didn't do that in the first like three years we were like willy-nilly whenever you get episodes here it is but
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you know we're in that consistency train and we want to stay on that and yeah I think this is going to work for
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everybody it just feels better we don't want that big chunk of time between episodes you don't either
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um so yeah that's what we're gonna do Mondays Thursdays new episodes we're excited about it it lets us really put
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more time and effort into these episodes which is what they deserve and what you
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deserve and we [ __ ] love you and I can't wait to see you every Monday and Thursday I know I won't see you I
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realize that I won't even hear you but it feels like I will and you will hear me so we're all in this together we're
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best friends thanks guys Mondays Thursdays oh my [ __ ] god Jonathan Van Ness was
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on the show today people guys this was such a fun episode I'm still what's the word reeling really really and Jonathan
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Van Ness is a sweetheart we love them we adore them we from my dreams truly this was amazing such a delight
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um we had a lot of fun we were laughing we were joking about a lot of stuff but we also had a really gnarly True Crime
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case uh pushed in there somewhere but I just want to let you guys know we have a
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lot of chit chat we talk about Vanderpump Rules oh I had to fill jv on the T but don't worry I feel like me and
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you are gonna have a more detailed discussion next time yeah I think we are we can't get over this vendor this the
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scand of all of it all Scandal but yeah this was a lot of fun this was definitely
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um definitely a chit chatty episode but I promise you guys there's a very very very intense True Crime case thrown in
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there as well yes and the reason why um we picked this specific case is because it was in Quincy and Jonathan is from
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Quincy so we were thinking like oh let's tell him about our Quincy because he's from Quincy Illinois we did a Quincy
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Massachusetts okay see what we did there do you see what we did see what we did there but I mean without further Ado
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here it is oh I died hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and I'm Jonathan Van Ness
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[Music] this is an extra special episode of morbid we have Jonathan Van Ness from
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getting curious the podcast or you could watch it on Netflix and of course queer
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eye which is also on Netflix and if like every other human project that you could
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ever take on um as a human like you learn to be a gymnast you are a stand-up comedian you're a hairdresser you're a
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beautiful soul you're also from our dreams welcome to the show I'm also I'm also someone who's gonna have to go
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clean up the pile of [ __ ] that they just shot in their pants like just like top like my Spotify I'm
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like top point zero zero one percent morbid like super I'm literally like I love you guys so much I love you so much
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I feel like this is a dream I feel like we're all in have you ever seen well do you watch SpongeBob
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I'm sorry I'm like our social vernacular is like we have more separation than what I was we do anticipating it's
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making me love you more okay it's making me love you more okay yeah you have so many things to show me you know but
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there's an episode of SpongeBob where they all enter each other's dreams and that's what's happening right now right
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here today this is also what happens every time you mention SpongeBob to me I'm like I don't know what that is I'm a
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youth but it's fun to learn yeah you know yeah yeah because you watch like Bob's
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Burgers or Family Guy or South Park I watch Bob's Burgers sometimes love love those are my three
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adult cartoons and we were a Family Guy house you were a Family Guy obviously I've seen I've seen Family Guy yeah but
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like I told you earlier I only watch Bravo um Bravo I like that I like that you're clear on what you want yeah yes
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yes I know exactly if you don't want there's a giant Scandal happening right now a huge the Bravo I do want to know
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about that so it's like but it's like it's straight people cheating on each other right yes well no because Ariana's
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not straight oh yeah yeah that's true and I'm not quite sure actually it's Tom Sandoval but she didn't do anything she
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didn't do anything she's an innocent bystander she is but it was like this hat cheating as far as like yeah yeah a
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man cheated on a woman with another woman exactly yep and it has like no headlines that really are pulling me
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like she had cheated on him with another woman I if you give me a lesbian if you
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give me some buy if you give me some nonsense I'm like what's up but yeah or a group would tell me so okay those
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people it's a lot it's a lot of history so Tom and Ariana got together back in like what 20 nine years ago yeah nine
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years ago they've been together for nine years they literally have a house together essentially common law married
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right that takes up what seven years yeah I mean they're for all intents and purposes together so then this girl
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Raquel joins the show fun fact name is not even Raquel found out recently on The Tick Tock that her name is Rachel so
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we're not calling her Raquel anymore we're calling her Rachel because she's a dirty gal and she has exactly but she
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has been carrying on a relationship with Tom Sandoval who has been with Ariana Maddox I don't know if it's Ariana or
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Ariana because they interchangeably use it they do but we love her regardless I [ __ ] team Ariana all the way but he
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has been carrying on a relationship like like behind closed doors with Raquel for
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seven months at least I also just found out today on good authority that they spent Christmas together
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so it's not good Ariana is sitting at Tom's show last Wednesday night because he also has a cover band called Tom and
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the most extras or something like yeah he is extra and his phone slips out of his pocket
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she grabs it off stage so he doesn't step on it what a kind soul Ariana is she's scrolling through the phone and
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she finds an inappropriate video of Raquel and then discovers the whole seven months all the receipts all of them and
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it was at the same time that Raquel was on Watch What Happens live with Andy Cohen in New York alongside at the same
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time who has also been uh on Vanderpump Rules forever and we do not condone violence on this podcast no
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allegedly um no I'm just kidding so Sheena is Ariana's best friend but has also been
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friends with Raquel because she doesn't know what a dirty girl she is so they're
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out and about and then Ariana calls Sheena her best friend and is like Sheena like are you with Raquel I need
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to talk to her because um what the [ __ ] is going on so Sheena finds out and then
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allegedly she throws Raquel's phone into the street throws Raquel up against a brick wall punches her in the face
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and then the rest after they left Watch What Happens Live yeah they were at like
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a bar or something I okay having done Watch What Happens Live a few times like I know exactly where that is in this
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city I could just like Envision like coming out of those doors and they get in their car and not like oh my God all
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of that ensues sidebar my friend um went to what's that restaurant that they film at sir sir
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okay Tom Tom so my friend my one of my very best friends as all this drama was happening was like got reservations at
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Tom Tom with their friends to see if anything would go down and but my friend doesn't know anything she's like me she
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just wanted to go to dinner with her friends but the friends were like you have to get like camera ready because
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like [ __ ] won't go down so then she got there and [ __ ] did go down and um it
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makes me want to ask her like what she saw oh God be like what went down do you know was that the night that Tom and the
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most extras still had to perform and then everybody started chanting cheater cheater Ariana at him and then he leaned
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into the mic and said we love her we're calling a friend on my plane let's see let's see really quick let me
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just I got it let's just see I love it yeah um do you consent to being on a like one
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of the Nations to the leading podcasts about murder but they're also very it turns out that they're like huge
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problems and we can bleep out your name and just have like you know word of a friend is but when you
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what happened when you went to that restaurant the other night and they were filming all that drama about that man
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oh well these aren't really filming it I don't think I don't know that Tom was sitting out one of the toms I don't know
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them and he was like sitting outside like all kind of like upset you know and um
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looking wounded and then a couple another cast person I don't know who they are we're with them and then
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they're like oh my God because as we were walking in my friends were telling me about it
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can you give us any more what did the other classmate look like darling and I was like what and they're like you
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don't understand what happened but I I can talk to and get the full story and the names of that can you please text me
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the full story and in the next 20 minutes please that's terrible thanks very anti-final attack
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get the story goodbye terrible because if Tom was looking wounded so there's two Toms There's Tom Sandoval
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and then there's Tom Schwartz Tom Sandoval is the piece of [ __ ] but fun fact that I didn't tell you in the
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middle of all of this right now the season of Vanderpump Rules is airing and everybody tried to make us think that
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Tom Schwartz and Raquel Rachel were hooking up because we think that Tom Schwartz was covering for Tom Sandoval
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and Tom Schwartz was married to another cast members remember and they are in the middle of a divorce
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so it was like big deal even for that but then when it turned into Tom Sandoval it's like well he's currently
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in a relationship so Rachel has now like I don't even like what's the word like defied two of her friends yeah and
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Ariana was like her best friend one of her best friends okay wait wait wait wait wait listener tail on the Fly are
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you ready yes always okay I have this friend and um yeah uh someone from my friends
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family okay four siblings right four siblings okay four brothers and sisters okay I'm so excited for where this is
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going there's a brother and sister okay brother sister excited maybe not no it's
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not it's not giving Game of Thrones it's giving it's giving interest it's giving
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Scandal oh brother sister they're both married okay brother and sister are married to their own Partners okay
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sister's got a husband brother's got a wife uh-oh sister's husband brother's wife
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start having an affair and you think that's not gonna come up at the dinner table
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so then they leave their partners because the affair gets brought to light and they go on to let
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Charlie have kids and they're still married it's the only example of a relationship
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started out of like a full adulterous Affair where they didn't end up so it's like the whole thing of like oh don't
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start your relationship in affair because it won't work out you lose them it's always not true like sometimes
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people do have horrific Affairs and then they do end up together it's true wow other example
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I divorced last year I was gonna say because maybe it just takes a lot how long have the other two like been
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together and like having the kids and all since like 94. what a very long time in my whole life damn very long time
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that's literally longer than you've been a lot it's two years longer than I spent
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alive holy [ __ ] so you were born in 92 96 96. wait oh my God 96 I know I cannot
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handle so you don't even [ __ ] know about the Magnificent Seven in Atlanta you didn't [ __ ] know about the
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Atlanta [ __ ] games the first time that a women's United States gymnastics team won a gold medal and an uncontested
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games were you so busy watching Bravo your whole life that you never even got into the Olympics not once no I've been
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into the Olympics before okay thank God actually we were at one of your shows in
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Boston when you were doing the Olympics and like doing all the flips and everything and you said that like a
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little bit of that whole speech about the seven and I looked at her and I said what is he talking about
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because I did can you add to your list of things that I would love for you to watch Sister Act One and Two
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um and The Last of Us is really good and you should get into it I think that people would really appreciate it in
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your life because it's it's just really good and it's like way better than other
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apocalyptic shows like it's so good like it literally is I would probably do anything you told me to do
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but I'm not sure let me try reverse.com let me try a different angle with you okay okay it's not that it's not that
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good like it's not that good yeah don't watch it don't watch it I don't even know people Everyone no everyone is like
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has like bad taste and you should follow your it's like not worth it and it's bad
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okay resounding bad no that's actually terrible that's good that you did that because I'm a Gemini so I do always do
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this of what people tell me to do yes like seriously like this worst yeah you'll hate it down you know what it's
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not for you okay wait what's the last thing and then the last thing was what were we just talking about Magnificent
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Seven oh yeah could you please watch on YouTube you can usually find like an Olympic final like if you could just
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watch like the women's Olympic Team final you will see Carrie's drug and her whole iconic moment the ankle which is
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such oh my God it is it is the it is probably one of the most iconic Olympic moments in history
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[ __ ] Amanda Borden [ __ ] JC Phelps [ __ ] Amy Chow Carrie strugg this team is just iconic it's static so amazing it
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is a stack who did you think I knew I didn't hear somebody does awesome Dawson she just I'm sorry I
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didn't mean to yell at you I feel like you literally picked the spit out of your eyes from which I like projectile
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through our zooms because I was so intense you got into Olympics this time around
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though because the girls were super early gymnastics like we now have all kinds of books
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about you know Simone biles they have Simone biles jackets now that they wear to school for them and see that they're
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Simone biles I support the Olympics I love that I just feel like they're just getting in gymnastics a lot um
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and I wanted to actually be a gymnastics girly but my mom said we're broke so we
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couldn't do that it's very it's very that part is very hideous and unfair I know especially figure skating it's so
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expensive and geographically prohibitive yeah believe me well I often like to say to
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my mom that like most of my therapy has been like working through the resentment
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that she didn't ride my back to St Louis like to the nearest figure skating rink
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so that like I could have taken us to the Olympics like she could have been my mama jar
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she would have just done that if she would have just done it but then we wouldn't have gotten queer eye like the
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revamp so you would have gotten and I could have been an Olympic probably it would have had to have an ice dancer I
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think I could have but then I would have had to have like given Straight Energy or at least like convincing like mask
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and I don't know we wouldn't want that no yeah I was like born in the wrong everything
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I meant to be a lady figure skater I feel like I could have done it yeah it was like next time no my next
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life I'm gonna be like Michelle Kwan oh I love it that era was such an era like I
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remember watching her on TV me too I remember like the Nancy Kerrigan of it all are you well yeah I guess she was yes
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she won her last Michelle won her last World medal which was bronze in o4 so you would have been
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seven by then so I believe I believe nine nine 2004 I was graduating high school so that's that's actually how me
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to know how old I was gonna be yes wait are you guys see exactly me are we I think we are you graduated because you
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were born in 85. it should have been five but I graduated early so I graduated I was born in like 87. see I
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was born basically in 86 I'm December 28th yeah of 1985 so like me plus you you're one and a half and
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you're the sprinkle Oh either on top yes we make a snap pea together oh I love that we do love snacks literally
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remember what a random lady on your street gave us snappies and we ate them with no questions she said I grew these
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in my garden and we said okay and then later we were like what yeah we talked about it we did that night we were like
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oh my God you're like you feel funny I feel fine do you feel fine we felt fine she really grew him in her garden they
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were good I love local produce yeah it says no to local produce exactly and she had them in a little basket that seemed
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legit it seemed so it seemed like a farmer basket yeah she was great get on her list again
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this year right right I think we just like ran into her she's just walking her dog and we were just walking your kids
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yeah yeah I didn't give my kids the snap peas you didn't no I didn't do that how
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can you take a ladies yeah that's a really sweet story right pretty wholesome you know just eating
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lots of produce I'm saying is there anything else we want to well we should chat about all
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the happiest things in the world because my story is not wholesome no it's not happy
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I want to hear it this story is sad it's really sad and um if you have a grandma that you love and you don't want
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to hear about an older person being murdered then you should not listen to this but if you're Elena or jvn you
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don't have a choice so so it all started on December 19th 2001. Anthony Calabro Calabro returned home to the house that
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he shared with his great aunt Marina in Quincy of course Marina from Quincy rest
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in peace Marina from Quincy oh because when he walked in he found his aunt dead at the bottom of a flight of stairs
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now initially the authorities believed that the 84 year old had slipped and Fallen to her death because obviously
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that's a pretty rational thought to have sadly a lot of older people living by themselves can fall and hurt themselves
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and you know worse things can happen but just 10 months later the authorities came to a very different conclusion the
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scene had been staged and Marina had been placed at the bottom of the stairs to make it seem like her death was an
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accident foreign [Music] solo hiker is terrorized for Days by unknown figures dressed in white two
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foreign scary I hate this already yeah it's pretty rough so in time detectives came
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to realize that her death had actually been orchestrated by her 19 year old great nephew Anthony with the help of
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his two teenage friends he killed Marina and they staged a cover-up in order to inherit the money that she was gonna
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leave him in her will because [ __ ] bags always it's always about money in the will always
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so the murder obviously completely shocked the residents of Quincy and it left so many people wondering how three
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teenagers could brutally kill an 84 year old woman in Cold Blood like this that's
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what always amazes me is when these people can get in a group like you can get more than one person that's like
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let's murder this 84 year old woman and they're like yeah that's a great idea like how do you get like-minded people
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like that that's the thing that's so scary that all three of them sat there one day and had that conversation and
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then had further conversations to plan the whole thing it's like what how are you that evil how do you not think old
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people are like the cutest I love old people oh so cute well [ __ ] honestly I feel like I actually hate old people
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so Marina really was well loved and her neighbors were especially surprised and obviously very disappointed when they
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found out that she had died she was well known in town she had retired in the mid
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90s but before that but she had been a fixture at the Marvel beauty salon where she worked for over 40 years oh my God
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Arena a hair stylist like us now when she retired she focused um all of her time on maintenance and upkeep of a
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multi-family duplex that she owned on Bedford Street and she had inherited that from her parents when they passed
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years earlier so she really wanted to like take care of this place her neighbor told reporters she was a champ
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her lawn was always kept nice and even when it snowed she was out there shoveling Marina and other neighbors
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said they loved her she always had a pleasant presence and she would always flash a quick wave when somebody passed
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and she always had candy for the kids oh stop it she fished out a little caramel
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or a little strawberry one of those little strawberry hard candies I do too so much I actually want those
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right now and I love a Werther's oh go to CVS now Marina she was a bad [ __ ] she did
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not let retirement slow her down at all she kept in shape walking everywhere she
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was constantly doing her own yard work like we know and she just like wanted to do things around the house constantly
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she was like a doer so people were shocked when they heard that she had slipped down the stairs they were like I
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don't know she's in like really good shape and she's constantly doing stuff like agile exactly so they were confused
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but the medical examiner concluded that it was a straightforward case of blunt neck Trauma from a slip and fall
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accident that had resulted in her death and that was all there was to it he said
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until 10 months later when the authorities kind of started to grow suspicious of Marina's great nephew
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Anthony because he had spending uh had been spending a lot of money not long enough
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it's like idiot you're so dumb so two years earlier and this is the thing she had invited him and his two friends to
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stay with her at her home oh so they've been living there for like two years and after her death she the the three of
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them continued living in the duplex on Bradford Street and the neighbors were not thrilled about it one neighbor said
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of their time there they would throw out trash from the second floor balcony and
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the house just went to pot after that which I've never heard you've never heard that no that's funny it's funny we
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totally say that really yeah so it went to pot after that now in addition to the
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non-stop partying there was kids coming and going at all hours neighbors were noticing new cars and other luxury items
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being delivered to the house Anthony even had a new puppy which like what are you doing with a puppy take that dog
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away from him immediately and he already had a dog oh he had one dog and then after his aunt was killed he bought
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another one how do you have dogs and kill an old lady I have like how do you reconcile
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those two parts of yourself that's like a dichotomy yeah that's a lot it really is well if you think about it
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if you murdered someone you might feel depressed so maybe you would want a dog because you feel less sad yeah that's
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true kind of makes sense and you'd be scared that that person you murdered in that home that you are now living in is
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gonna haunt us yeah it'd probably be pretty paranoid so you'd get a dog to like I hope she haunted the [ __ ] out of
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them I hope so too I would I absolutely a Merino doubt in my mind Marina was in Marine yeah Marina from Quincy was
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Haunting his ass yeah she had her blow dryer turned on the hours of the day she was like yeah yeah she's like get out of
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here now the sad thing is she had always been extremely extremely fond of Anthony
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and remember this is her great nephew she included him in her will I was just gonna say they were close enough that he
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she did that and she invited him to live there with his friends like come on now he was
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supposed to get more than two hundred thousand dollars cash once she had died wow cost him a lot of money God now once
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he got that money after murdering her he wasted no time spending it he got a new
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Corvette which like people are going to notice if you park a Corvette outside of
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a duplex in Quincy and also like really yeah like just really he got big screen televisions and this is a quote more
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than eighty thousand dollars on military equipment including grenade launchers for where Lally and himself those are
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his two friends I'm sorry what what a [ __ ] flaming pile of garbage yeah and also where do you just buy a
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recreational grenade launcher but it does it does speak to the failure of our education system that like that's how
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people think that like you should like didn't let me teach you 401K yeah better [ __ ] invest that
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[ __ ] like what do you mean like buying rocks launchers we don't even know like I guess I only
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learned about that stuff like two years ago but still but still but you should have a problem you know they don't teach
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us that stuff it's true I had no idea yes we needed to teach the people like how to like not like how to have safe
00:29:34
sex and how to like have enough money yeah taxes how do you balance a checkbook yeah yeah I don't even know what
00:29:43
happened at the end of high school I literally used to have to Google how to write on an envelope like how to address
00:29:48
an envelope because we just didn't learn that oh we totally learned that and now
00:29:53
they're not even we teach our kids cursive which that is so [ __ ] like I love cursive I love cursive me too oh cursive
00:30:01
Q's are so fun well good times those were the days do people often tell you about how fun it is that you say exactly
00:30:07
with your tea like that it's like so it's like a divided nation yes because some people really really love it I also
00:30:14
never knew that I did that before I had a podcast you know I never noticed it either no my grandma would be so proud
00:30:18
of me my grandma you pronounce every freaking syllable so that's probably why yeah for me on like the first episode
00:30:25
like it was like it's like one of my I'm team loves it thank you makes me feel happy I love it when you say that and
00:30:32
anyone who says opposite is like weird but it's also so interesting like looking at you guys when you talk
00:30:38
because I'm like wow like now you know now you know who says what that whole time is the magic gone
00:30:45
you just learned so much no it's even more magical I love like that it's like you it's like when you love someone and
00:30:51
now you can imagine like where they're sitting in their house when you're chatting with them like that's what my
00:30:56
grandma always said she had to come to your house because she didn't like chatting on the phone and not being able
00:31:00
to like Envision where you were yeah I love that a lot and now like it's like really cute like in a non-creepy way
00:31:04
yeah also are you gonna come to our pod lab someday in like real life please we have a whole setup over there to like
00:31:12
sit down our friend Mikey is in the corner but wait till then what happened so okay
00:31:20
so she's so she's so nice yeah so nice so she's so nice puts them in the will then they kill her they're buying
00:31:27
grenade launchers and according to their friend Jim Morrill I hope I'm saying that right the boys had quote dreamed
00:31:33
about becoming mercenary soldiers which is what the whole grenade launcher was about and now that they have the money
00:31:38
they were stockpiling weapons at this point weird now Jim he had spent three or four days a week at Anthony's house
00:31:46
both before and after Marina had been killed and Jim had dreams of becoming a professional musician and he actually
00:31:53
played in a band with Anthony and his friend Weir and the band was called electronic kill machine
00:32:01
which like honestly lame name if you ask yeah that one doesn't do the whole like
00:32:04
hello Cleveland we are electric kill machine no no I'm out right I'm leaving it doesn't work yeah I've already left
00:32:10
left on something now apparently they were doing all right because they had already released a um CD a compact disc
00:32:16
and they were hoping to release another one now that they had the money but Jim's enthusiasm for the band and his
00:32:23
friends um it took a serious nosedive and late October of that year um the thing that like really turned
00:32:29
things on their side was when Anthony confided in him that they had all murdered Marina the great aunt Jim
00:32:36
didn't really love that well good for Jim yeah I'm glad jyn did not love that but Jim had questions he was like why
00:32:42
did you kill green Aunt Marina like why would you ever do that I would also have
00:32:46
that question and Anthony was like yeah like I can't just wait around for her to
00:32:49
die of natural causes oh my God you're disgusting you you can't just wait around he's a vile human
00:32:57
why don't you spend time with her why don't you find out what she did in her life why don't you uh stop being a dick
00:33:02
ask her about the salon yeah right ask her about running this duplex well and as we know there are so many good
00:33:08
stories in a salon I can't imagine 40 years worth of Salon stories could have said something yeah I mean but it's like
00:33:15
if you are on that murder track for the ensure or the will money it's you don't care yeah that's apparently are sounding
00:33:23
quite juicy enough yeah you didn't think so so Jim was like okay like um thanks for telling me that like not gonna tell
00:33:30
the police definitely not um he did tell the police we love Jim Jim is who we're
00:33:36
fighting for there you go so actually he and he had to sit through a whole car ride home with Anthony first awkward and
00:33:42
imagine being in a [ __ ] car with this kid he murdered his great aunt like what
00:33:46
no so he drops Jim off at home and Jim immediately goes to his down dad and is like listen to what Anthony just told me
00:33:53
and the two of them went straight to the Quincy Police Department to make a report to make a report to make a report
00:33:59
so Jim worked with Quincy detectives on a plan to get his friend's confession on
00:34:05
tape and just a few days later that plan was set into motion is there a wire there's a wire mama oh I love a wire so
00:34:13
Jim meets up with Jason Ware one of the friends at McDonald's in Norton I have been there I used to go there all the
00:34:19
time in high school damn crazy um I wasn't there when this happened no Jason didn't know it but Jim was wearing
00:34:26
a wire and he was about to hear exactly what had happened the day that Marina was killed can you imagine how stressful
00:34:33
it would be to wear a wire no I I can't even fathom it especially in a scenario where like like in a scenario different
00:34:42
than this where like somebody could potentially like feel you for a while yeah or in a place like not a public
00:34:48
place if you're like in their house or they're in your house which happens or in a car or something oh terrifying have
00:34:55
you ever watched Good Girls no yes love that show yes so good with Reddit love yeah there you go so this
00:35:06
happens in The Wire too that because that's also a great thing I need to watch that I've been meaning to watch
00:35:11
that that's a good one yeah well great theme song too agreed so on the afternoon of December
00:35:18
19th Anthony Thomas Lally and Jason Ware they drove to Marina's house and Anthony
00:35:22
waited in the car with his dog the one the one that he already had while the other boys went inside so he couldn't
00:35:28
even do this himself by the way which like I'm kind of glad I guess but I'm not glad at all because I hate it
00:35:35
so Marina was out that day doing what Marina did she was probably giving children candy
00:35:40
um taking care of her Lawns she's like being an amazing human being and when she got home she was surprised to find
00:35:45
the two boys in her kitchen and even more so when she saw that there was newspaper lying everywhere on the ground
00:35:51
and all the surfaces the newspaper had been put down earlier because they decided it would soak up
00:35:57
the blood now as she moved closer into the kitchen she was met by Thomas Lally who was
00:36:02
holding a cast iron skillet that he had taken from the cabinet Marina was obviously terrified so she was like what
00:36:09
are you doing with that and he replied this is what I'm doing with this and brought the cast iron skillet down on
00:36:15
her head with such Force this is a quote that the handle broke off like also you're [ __ ] gross like I
00:36:25
love that he had the whole like this this is what I'm doing like [ __ ] off you're a 19 year old this woman has
00:36:30
lived her whole [ __ ] life for you you piece of [ __ ] and garbage to do this to
00:36:36
her and they're 19 like 19 is well above the age of course it is and one of them
00:36:43
shenanigans should be happy yeah they were like two of them are 19 and one was 17. yeah it's like you are
00:36:53
exactly so Lolly he expected that the blow from the cast iron pan would be enough to kill the 80s
00:37:01
[Applause] but there was blood coming down her face and she started screaming for Anthony oh
00:37:08
my God completely unaware that he was outside in the car knowing full well what was going on inside oh my God and
00:37:15
he's out she's yelling for him for help oh that hurts my heart so she started screaming and he Lolly grabs a yellow
00:37:22
tea kettle from the stove top and he beat her with that even after she fell to the ground and when she was down he
00:37:29
climbed on top of her and started to manually strangle her with his hands but she was fighting back she scratched at
00:37:36
his face she bit his arm and she was screaming so when he realized how difficult it is actually to strangle
00:37:42
somebody he instead held a small pillow over her face yelling let go given Anthony wants it this way oh like that's
00:37:51
what she heard in her dying moments was that her great grand nephew how I wanted
00:37:56
this to happen like that is brutal Okay and like for what I wonder if they were on drugs
00:38:06
because there is such like a disassociation from reality yeah and a lot of times when you hear about like
00:38:11
murders like that like it is like the paranoia the soldiers the murderer like all of it's like yeah all right it's
00:38:18
like or maybe that's just like my brain wanting to say that because it's like otherwise you literally sober decided to
00:38:23
[ __ ] cold blood murderer your 84 year old Auntie which makes you a [ __ ] Monster's at least sir it's like
00:38:31
addiction and that's not who your soul is or whatever it is really [ __ ] up I don't think they were on drugs I didn't
00:38:38
read anything that said they were which makes it like you were just saying makes
00:38:41
it worse oh it's awful so five or so minutes later Anthony entered the apartment and this is [ __ ] insane
00:38:49
walks over to his great aunt who had taken him in put him in her well looked at her lifeless body on the floor and
00:38:57
quote gave a shrug before leaving the room just was like wow like you are a soulless piece of
00:39:05
garbage you should never be allowed around people ever again never so before doing anything else they thoroughly
00:39:11
washed Marina's body they were trying to get rid of any kind of evidence but um she had scratched I was just gonna say
00:39:17
she took some evidence when she bit him so then They carried her to the top of the
00:39:24
stairwell and dumped her body down the stairs to make it seem like she'd Fallen [Music]
00:39:43
wild I'm also like who is the medical examiner don't you think that's something like you're not gonna say what
00:39:50
they've seen at the blows to the Head were like pre-mortem and post-mortem like falling down like
00:39:56
wouldn't that be like would that be something that they could tell they could really do it technically whether a
00:40:03
a wound is post or pre or perimortem or put or pre-mortem would it be possible that she was maybe like a still but if
00:40:11
they watch if I mean maybe I don't know what how when she died at that point but
00:40:16
they washed her yeah like if they watched her up and like cleaned up that's a lot of time and that's enough
00:40:22
time for blood to clot yeah which means any of those wounds you could tell whether they were done
00:40:29
or even Perry so I think the medical examiner probably was like oh like look she fell down the stairs and like didn't
00:40:35
look too much further I was gonna say that's like not good it's like she's 84 so like maybe he was just or they were
00:40:41
like and you'd think me just like she would be very dark and I know a fall down the stairs if you I mean it depends
00:40:50
on the stairs it depends on well it's a duplex so think and it's a duplex in Boston so to me I'm if I'm speeding the
00:40:57
stairs that's a steep long set of stairs potentially even curved I feel like a lot of them are randomly curved or
00:41:02
they're just like really long and thin so like I guess that could cause a lot of damage especially if you went you
00:41:09
know Head Over Feet right exactly but like but still like pre and post like you were saying it was gonna take time
00:41:14
to wash her up and everything that would also I feel like be like I know that they put down the newspapers but it's
00:41:19
like there would be some spray like that hit would cause some kind especially if
00:41:25
he had like pulled it back yeah yeah I think no one found that if it sounds to me like they were just very ready yeah
00:41:34
open and shut found her at the bottom of the stairs she's 84. she fell work here's done wow and I I don't know about
00:41:39
the crime rate in Quincy but I'm sure it's not like a very quiet quiet area no so I think they're probably not like
00:41:45
maybe overloaded you could think I could see that yeah so so they did all of that
00:41:52
unbelievable later that day they cleaned the apartment they gathered up the bloody newspapers and then they drove to
00:41:58
Norton where they dropped Weir off at his parents house and Anthony and Lally went on to dispose of the frying pan and
00:42:05
the tea kettle in a pond before heading back to Quincy now Anthony and Lally waited at the apartment until 11 o'clock
00:42:12
at night and then called the police to report that Anthony had come home and found his beloved deer Aunt like this
00:42:18
wow so police found out from The Wire that um that's exactly what had happened and they were all three arrested so he
00:42:27
was just like yeah this whole story wow now when it came time for the trial all three of them actually pleaded not
00:42:35
guilty which I'm like honey is that you on the wire because like we all heard that yeah now Lolly pleaded not guilty
00:42:43
to first degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder Anthony for first-degree murder accessory before the fact to
00:42:49
murder and conspiracy to commit murder and we're for first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder but all
00:42:56
three trials actually were hung up for like years and years because of administrative and pre-trial matters all
00:43:02
that [ __ ] stupid stuff but by March of 2006 all the respective hurdles have been cleared and Thomas Lolly was the
00:43:09
first to go on trial bye Lally bye now in his opening remarks I I have to laugh when I say this because it's Norfolk
00:43:18
Norfolk County district attorney Robert Nelson you there's like no other way to say it yeah
00:43:25
Norfolk yeah um the district attorney Robert Nelson he told the jury about how the boys had
00:43:32
planned the murder months in advance so this was months in advance they planned this they developed a strategy after
00:43:38
visiting websites and watching TV shows about how to get rid of forensic evidence oh God and according to Norton
00:43:45
collabro Anthony there and the other boys did this because they were they thought they were going to inherit more
00:43:51
than 700 000 when Marina died and they would split they said that Anthony told the boys they would split it evenly
00:44:00
it's like number one I don't know who you think you are like you're not getting seven hundred thousand dollars
00:44:06
and clearly he's not gonna split it equally no of course he's not and also that's sweet aunt Marina what the [ __ ]
00:44:12
are you doing yeah now in exchange for their participation Weir was expecting a 28 000 pickup truck and Lolly thought he
00:44:20
was gonna get his amount in cash but at the end of the day we're only received 6 500 which still is a lot of
00:44:27
money and Lolly got somewhere between eight and ten thousand because he had been the one to do everything wow now
00:44:33
when you thought you were gonna get two hundred thousand a little different a little different so only 10 grand to
00:44:39
kill somebody and then live with that for the rest of your life and not even they said between eight and ten so you
00:44:45
know that was like nine something yeah if that it's like also no amount of money is
00:44:50
worth it to murder a sweet old woman and to like brutally while she's calling for
00:44:56
her nephew yeah oh God that's what kills me like that part yeah not so much I hate it because you know
00:45:11
she was just the sweetest yeah Marina from Quincy but now the good thing well it's like a good and bad thing but it
00:45:18
works out because the evidence against Sally it was largely circumstantial but it was just circumstantial excuse me but
00:45:24
it was still significant when the police arrived at Anthony's house on the night
00:45:28
of the murder they actually had noted which I'm like you noted this and you still said that it was not a murder they
00:45:35
noticed that he had scratches on his face and a bite mark on his arm and they asked him about it that night actually
00:45:41
and he said he got them during a fight with Anthony earlier that day no no like you check that I have to go you check
00:45:49
that but later on they ended up searching lali's home and they found scraps of the newspapers that had been
00:45:56
laid out and Jim was able to direct them to the pond where they had dumped the cast iron skillet in the tea kettle and
00:46:03
they recovered those items with the help of a dive team so I wonder where the pond was we're [ __ ] it was in Norton
00:46:09
oh it was one of the Norton ponds holy [ __ ] I bet you know which one it is oh so the most damning was the testimony
00:46:16
from Jason Weir he actually agreed to testify against Lally in exchange for a reduced charge uh he was going to get
00:46:24
manslaughter with a maximum sentence of 10 years so on the stand we are admitted
00:46:28
to being in the apartment and he said he may have tried to restrain Marina and actually even handed Lolly the pillow
00:46:35
that was what killed her but it was Thomas who had struck her with all those blows that had killed her I'm sorry if
00:46:42
you held down an 84 year old who had already been bludgeoned you're a [ __ ] monster too and
00:46:48
what's his name Jason um Jason yeah and also to be like well I may have restrained my hair but I don't
00:46:56
remember it's like [ __ ] off you don't remember murdering someone oh I do Jason
00:47:01
I hate you just as much I hate Jason yeah I hate Thomas but yeah so he said that and then he
00:47:07
told the jury in the days leading up to the murder that Lally had made several comments to suggest that he was actually
00:47:13
excited about going through with this and that afterwards Ware was so scared to report the crime because of all that
00:47:21
and he he feared retaliation from Lally and that's why he didn't tell anybody it's like no you didn't tell anybody
00:47:27
because you held her down and you handed a pillow that's not I was gonna say that's the thing you know you were a
00:47:34
pivotal you played a pivotal role in this whole thing that's why you didn't say anything exactly don't play with me
00:47:39
Jason [ __ ] off oh [ __ ] play around here so arguing in lally's defense attorney
00:47:45
which like oh I don't know how you do that yeah attorney Robert Griffin told the jury that the police and the
00:47:50
prosecution had prosecutors excuse me I'd gotten everything wrong he said Jason where is the one who killed Marina
00:47:57
Calabro uh no but he told me no he told the jury that the DNA evidence collected at the
00:48:05
scene was not a match for Lally who had simply gone along with his friends it's like I love that that's a defense
00:48:12
sir it's like this 19 year old was peer pressured into brutally bludgeoning an 84 year old to death like I'm sorry am I
00:48:22
supposed to go oh okay don't throw him in jail then it's fine yeah make them pay don't worry about it he'll get over
00:48:27
it like she had had plenty of people over in the in like the days and stuff before that like that could have been
00:48:32
anybody's DNA we all know what happened here yeah they continued living in her house and using her money to buy grenade
00:48:38
launcher Jesus we know what happened yeah he said he was not the Mastermind Anthony was and he was not the murderer
00:48:46
Jason was oh he just he nothing to do with it exactly so finally Thomas Lolly there took the stand for himself in his
00:48:53
own defense and he told the jury that it was Jason Weir who had killed the woman
00:48:58
God they were like okay okay okay sounds good and then they deliberated for five
00:49:02
hours and when they came back they found Thomas Lally guilty oh good okay on first degree murder I was like I
00:49:10
swear to God if you give me a not guilty you were like I will don't you do it and
00:49:13
the superior court judge Charles grobao I want to say it is sentence loudly to the mandatory sentence of life in prison
00:49:20
without the possibility of parole and then the Norfolk District Attorney there was a lot of emphasis on that there
00:49:25
sorry um he said that he was satisfied with the outcome but he quote remained troubled by the savagery of her death
00:49:33
very Savage now it seems like Thomas lally's conviction definitely put some fear into Anthony because in in June of
00:49:41
2006 just a couple months after Lally was sentenced Anthony ended up changing his tune and he decided that he was
00:49:49
going to be pleading guilty to the second degree murder of his great aunt please it's like um firstly you planned
00:49:56
it he cried before the court he said he played a role in her death and he said I'm disgusted with myself I'm disgusted
00:50:03
with my lack of action and attempting to stop it or any anything else for that matter you mean when she was calling out
00:50:09
for you and also like to stop it like you continued even after she died you divvied out her money to your friends
00:50:15
who you had hired to kill her yeah he's so sad that he didn't stop doing that you're sorry you got caught yeah your
00:50:20
tears mean nothing exactly and that's how the judge felt too and he sentenced him to life in prison with the
00:50:26
possibility of parole after 15 years I hate that oh I hate that yeah we don't love them 2006 15 years that wasn't
00:50:36
we're not done yet oh oh oh now because of his deal Jason Weir pleaded guilty to
00:50:43
manslaughter and was sentenced to 10 years with credit for the four years already served while he was awaiting
00:50:49
trial now for a little T though in July of 2006 after all three cases had been settled it was discovered that the
00:50:57
Norfolk County prosecutor Susan Cochran or yeah I think that's it had shared audio interviews and other evidence and
00:51:05
sensitive materials with the CBS news program 48 Hours what and she was immediately fired oh [ __ ] she got fired
00:51:15
for that damn now in January of 2022 Anthony was granted parole yo [ __ ] he had been denied once in 2017
00:51:24
but given his age at the time of the crime and his record of good behavior while in prison probably because there's
00:51:31
no old lady four-year-olds yeah the parole board felt that he had been rehabilitated and was a suitable
00:51:38
candidate for parole and they specifically cited his participation quote in numerous prison programs
00:51:44
including one called alternatives to violence it's like well I'm glad he participated
00:51:49
he's like 42 or something now like 42 or 43 yeah I hate it I'm really bad at Mental Math but I think that sounds
00:51:56
right he was like teen in 2001 and the trial didn't go on until 2005 or so yeah it
00:52:02
was 19 in 2001. so then like 21 he was like 39. yeah it's like 41. you just walk in these streets
00:52:10
of streets and you murdered ears oh that's so cute I love that how could you do and Lolly and Pops
00:52:27
to her husband yeah it's so rude and it's like if you're gonna kill somebody you know that brutally like I mean he
00:52:33
didn't do the killing but he like set it all up you can do that for someone you love yeah what are you capable of for
00:52:40
somebody you don't know now according to the terms of his parole he'll be released to a minimum security facility
00:52:46
and he was going to stay there for a year and then after that he would be released quote on a home plan that would
00:52:52
include a curfew and electronic monitoring so we have that to settle our stomach okay now in May of 2022 so
00:52:59
pretty recently Jim morrill's story of being a voluntary undercover agent on behalf of the Quincy Police Department
00:53:05
was featured on the Discovery Channel series I went undercover oh and the series producer told the Patriot Ledger
00:53:13
this series is all about regular people taking great risks and going undercover when we heard about Jim's story and his
00:53:19
bravery it was a natural fit for the series so yeah that is the story of two three actually [ __ ] crazed into
00:53:27
individuals three pieces of [ __ ] who murdered sweet sweet Marina Marina a poor Marina all right people Arena we
00:53:36
loved you before we even knew you oh really loved her so much that's such an upsetting one it's very upsetting oh
00:53:45
shout out to Dave for helping me with research on that shout out today yes oh my God today and just said yes
00:53:53
Dave yes Dave that was amazing what a story I know upsetting [Music] oh [Music] it was really sad I definitely need to
00:54:17
watch Sister Act One and Two yeah you do to move on for most of the last of us is
00:54:22
so good 96 women's Olympic Team final that's true but nobody likes the last one I
00:54:27
know we hate it here's the thing with the Last of Us you you knew I was like I won't watch this and like John my
00:54:35
husband loves an apocalyptic movie he loves a world wide epidemic like he loves I already have my checklist yeah I
00:54:45
already know exactly what I would do there you go that's John that's good that's good planning yeah raid the
00:54:49
pharmacy get my HIV medicine that's the [ __ ] first thing that I wanted to get the guns I'm really like not into
00:54:55
guns yes you're scared of them but in that situation and Armageddon like post apocalypse like I'm getting so [ __ ]
00:55:04
gunny with it then I'm taking my ass to the grocery store yeah I'm getting all those [ __ ] cans the canned goods and
00:55:11
the Pop-Tarts even though they're not in a can they still count oh Pop-Tarts come
00:55:15
there what kind of Pop-Tarts do you guys like oh I like them really I like the brown
00:55:20
sugar cinnamon ones the Oreos those are my favorite and I was just gonna say the cookies and
00:55:27
cream ones are a dessert Pop Tart I like the strawberry too just go classic love
00:55:31
I [ __ ] with s'mores that's my second favorite yes brown sugar Cinnamon's my number one yeah yeah brown sugar is
00:55:40
classic yeah if you want to get real if you want to get really decadent with it you should say then you put them in the
00:55:49
toaster take them out when they're nice and warm you put ice cream on them no no
00:55:53
that sounds great butter you put a little butter on the crust oh no you put butter on the hole okay good okay good
00:55:59
but you know what I do I am so impatient insane so and able to control myself me too that I will eat I
00:56:11
will take one package out eat them together sacked on top of each other cold like I will while I toast the other
00:56:19
pear um I need it I need I need it up front like I can't wait for three minutes but I
00:56:27
like it room temp and hot so I just do both it works like this Elena always laughs at me like whenever we order food
00:56:32
or something I eat something in preparation for the food to come she's like we have food coming I'm like yeah
00:56:38
but I'm really hungry I feel that though yeah actually my nutritionist taught me
00:56:42
to do that because like then you don't overeat the meal like I still do okay yeah like it does help me though I also
00:56:51
like I'll also like have a snack like before I order now because then I'm like a little bit less enraged
00:56:57
you are great I'm a grazer I like to eat throughout the day Drew and I are doing
00:57:02
a challenge this month where we don't order doordash for dinner because it's gotten really really bad I was going
00:57:09
through my statement the other day and I was like all of my money is going to doordash like same and I am getting
00:57:15
married in 33 weeks and these hips they do lie they do lie they do not Shakira so yeah so yeah that's that
00:57:29
um this is the most fun I ever had this is so much fun we need to do this again I want to do this and it'll be easier to
00:57:35
schedule and we'll bring our yeah yeah cool actually I love you guys so much can we just like I just I'm I have to
00:57:42
still finish part two of um the Hollywood Slayer that's right oh yes that one is rough that one's gnarly you
00:57:50
should start Vanderpump Rules if I'm gonna watch Sister Act you should start rules it's true it's kind of like an
00:57:55
uneven it's kind of uneven um we're giving you ten Seasons you're giving me like such a big commitment
00:58:08
yeah so here's what's the scent it is here's what's more accurate okay if you get through Sister Act One and Two okay
00:58:14
and then 1996 women's Olympic Team final okay and the last and the last of us then I shall embark on the that's more
00:58:24
than I care but apocalypse if it's like an hour per hour I'm telling you the last of us I I did not want to like it
00:58:31
but I love Pedro Pascal and you will too and also the third episode from one hairdresser to another
00:58:42
if you just like appreciate it for like the lighting the hair and the makeup like how would you dress someone's hair
00:58:49
if it had not been cut for 20 years that the world had shut down like how would you
00:58:55
interpret like that's kind of like because like before I made TV I didn't watch TV for that as much but then once
00:59:04
I understood like what it looks like in real life versus what it looks like on TV like in an unscripted way now I like
00:59:10
I appreciate more of like lighting and like how long it would have took yeah there's like more art there that I think
00:59:15
you would appreciate if you just would give yourself the chance and the monsters in the last of us are some of
00:59:23
the most horrifically gorgeous monsters you said there's monsters they are like the bad
00:59:29
things oh the infected and it gets better like you get more of them and there's different stages of infected where they
00:59:36
look different okay most gorgeous makeup I've ever seen all right I'm telling you
00:59:40
both right now I'm gonna watch this but it's gonna take me a long time to get through it because I have to watch it by
00:59:45
myself and I think it might I think that first I watched the pilot like the first
00:59:50
episode like four times in like the first week because it was so it was giving layers
01:00:00
more layers than a [ __ ] shag honey and you know that's a lot of [ __ ] layers I'm gonna film you
01:00:07
when you get to that third episode because I have to pass that trauma on that it's a curveball yeah
01:00:13
it's gorgeous we're gonna have to watch it together when Drew goes away okay oh yeah okay yeah I'm asking for
01:00:20
you I am asking you to aggressively make some time for this yeah I'll force it we don't have time
01:00:29
for a [ __ ] vacation out of your partner what the [ __ ] he gonna leave he's all you guys are together all the
01:00:34
time I'll ever hear about on your podcast I don't have time for two weeks Elena doesn't nobody does no yes
01:00:44
can you imagine if someone yes yes I can't lie to you I will just episode one okay the word of the Lord either
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you're a really good liar or you're going to because I am you like your face changed yeah because I feel like I I
01:01:00
believe you like I went from not believing to like not about anything just about The Last of Us specifically
01:01:06
yeah of course she knows that I I'm Gonna Make It Happen will you send me a joke
01:01:14
I I want to know what you think oh yeah just send it to me please or just text me it's even better sometimes I forget
01:01:19
that I'm pretty sure it's really better for you that I do forget that no don't forget yeah always remember yeah I'm
01:01:26
gonna text you once I'm done with it there you go more of it is number one okay now let's do your thanks for
01:01:34
listening okay I was just gonna invite you to do it do you want to do the keep it weird yes okay ready yeah all right
01:01:40
guys well that was our episode with jvn I'm very sad that it's over but with all
01:01:44
that being said we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep keep it we but not so weird that what
01:01:55
um but not so weird that you try to take your step Auntie's um inheritance and then take your two best friends and then
01:02:02
murder her with a frying pan and a teapot and then clean her body and then take her up to the top of the stairs and
01:02:07
throw her down the stairs and then get grenade launchers and all this weird [ __ ] [ __ ] and just like take care of
01:02:13
your family birth but do do that but don't do the other stuff no he said it that was really good that was really
01:02:20
good I love the end of the podcast so much like I love it when you do that Justice oh you did really good I felt it
01:02:29
going of course when I said like why can't you just take care of people because it's like not so weird that you
01:02:34
would it was like yeah but then you just talk yourself through yeah you got it yeah yeah you got it
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