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hey weirdos I'm Elena I'm Ash and this is [Music] morbid woohoo woohooo I don't know why I woohoo
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just felt R you're in a good mood because we realized we're painting the walls in the Pod LA and it's King us oh
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mama we're not just painting the walls we're overhaul in the Pod lab and we're pretty excited about it yeah the Pod lab
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got like a little dorm room like I we just we we were in a state and we were like it's fine now I
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feel like we're both I'm like elevating My Style game and I feel like I see the same in you oh thank you yeah not that
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your your style game needed elevating but but it's it just feels you know it's k chaotic it's out of control uhhuh so
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we decided last week we're like [ __ ] that let's make this our tranquil beautiful Tran full full of tful full of
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TR I don't know I'm tired I didn't sleep all last night but tranquil just like you know like VI room that we can just
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face all the [ __ ] head on but yeah we're excited so I think we're like a little like excited a
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little Punchy I know I'm hyper fixating on this until it's done but the other thing and I know you guys
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have like cuz we record these like um stupidly in advance um like way ahead of time so sometimes we can't be like as on
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top of things you know that happen in the world as much as we wish we could we could but we can't uh and so I posted I
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don't remember even what it was was it a couple weeks ago that I did this yeah I
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was on vac so it was like two weeks ago it was like two weeks ago I posted a Tik
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Tok where I watched saltburn finally I took ashes I'm so happy cuz I really didn't think I was going to get a chance
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to do it and I was like H it's not really high on the priority list like I don't know if I really even want to
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watch it it's hard when you have kids because your kids literally your children cannot walk into the room while
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you're watching that movie and I can't we can't watch movies unless it's in that night like when the kids are asleep
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that's the only time John and I can watch and that is a long one to sign on to and it's long so one night I don't
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know what it was oh it was John wanted to watch a certain football game and you said o no he was like you know what I'm
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going to go in the other room and watch this football game so that I think I was
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like stressed out about something and he was like I you know what you watch watch
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something watch your New York Housewives or watch something like a horror movie and just like zone out I'm going to
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watch football in there and he was putting something together so I was like you know what I'm going to try saltburn
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and I just like put it on time this is the hour and I I filmed a reaction video I was dying at it I loved it that's the
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thing I think I loved it I think I like it I love it I still am like like I I don't dislike it and I think I might
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love it but it's one of those movies where you're like how did I feel about I will say I so there obviously there's
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the scenes that everybody knows about the scenes I was like all right like they they were shocking some of them but
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like oh yeah at the end of it I was like wow I loved that movie and I did not see
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this coming like I am so glad that you brought it up to me and I'm glad that finally decided to listen I was I was
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like pretty positive that you were really going to like it and like see it for what it was it's one of those movies
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where I don't think I've ever seen another movie like that no it gave me weirdly it's a mishmash of so many
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different movies for me and I can't pinpoint them all I saw guy on Tik Tok saying that hint of Cruel Intentions in
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there the guy on Tik Tok said that it's it gave me that for sure I had that it also gave me like a little bit of the
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skulls energy seen it brought back an era of movies for me that I was like oo like I'm into
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this I liked I liked the whole thing I was in beginning to end yeah no I I think I I think I've decided that I
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really really like I felt bad for Oliver in the beginning oh yeah you do I was shocked by Oliver at one point like I'm
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not like I'm not one of the girlies who's like in boyes who's like an Oliver over I respect it I get it yeah and I'll
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tell you I got it in one scene when he's in the TU when he's in the suit the tux
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the mom a drink in his hand i'm was like I get it girls that's exact it's so funny that that's the scene for you
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because that's the scene where he you can see that he's a pure psychopath yep that was the scene I was like I get it
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the rest was when you were like yeah I'm into it yeah and then by the end you're
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kind of like wow okay uh go after what you want I guess yeah you know manifest you know manifest I was like [ __ ] that's
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that's another level you guys cuz I saw everybody being like I just want to hear
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you talk about it now and I was like I got to tell you I loved it now I want to see like the pretty ones or something
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like that Emma Stone isn't it I do not want to see that I have heard that that is I again you want to watch it by all
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means you're like [ __ ] you I don't want to like disparage people from watching
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movies because like it might not be for me like I'm not one of those people I don't know anything about it I've just
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heard a lot of people talking about it there's the the idea behind that movie is a little distressing to me oh is it
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yeah it's it's not it's not my we'll talk we'll talk later but like I'm curious to see how everybody else
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thought about it CU maybe I'm you know it's the idea didn't appeal to me but maybe somebody else will like it a lot
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of people have been recommending it to me yeah see I've had people tell me not to see really yeah cuz they said it was
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really like disturbing oh the the idea behind it okay all right I'll look it up later and then we'll we'll discuss from
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there yeah it's strange there's a lot of strange movies coming out right now yeah
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but you know well there's just apparently there I don't know apparently apparently I don't know like a lot about
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it but I want to look more into it but there's energy like that just like like with the like planets and everything
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that we've never experienced before like in this entire span of the earth I believe it cuz I'm feeling some type of
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way right now yeah I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing it doesn't feel bad to me it feels like fresh like
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it feels like I'm like clean it all out clean it all out and I'm I'm let's go I'm so happy about that for you I have
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the worst end of the world anxiety that I have ever had in my entire life no I'm
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like let's go until the asteroid hits us cuz yeah there's been plenty of times that you I mean just go online and
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you'll be like wow asteroid come and get us like it's just there's plenty of times where there's plenty of times
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where John has been like we deserve the asteroid yeah we we but that makes my anxiety worse if I
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think about that too hard that's why you got to just like just live you know get
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your get your coffee and slive make your pod lab the way you want to make it you
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know all that [ __ ] Fu it but you know we are in part three of a case right now
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yes let's get to it and we've had we've we've chitty chatti and now chitty chat but the good news is we are in part
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three and he gets apprehended he's going to get got [ __ ] yeah yeah we're F we're
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going to get to the point where he gets got I love it and when we last left you I was talking about how they needed a
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[ __ ] task force for this like I and people were screaming for it I mean even investigators were trying to get it done
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and it just wasn't getting done right finally they got a task force good so as state officials work to assemble their
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team Ronald Dominique he was back out on the streets this guy would not stop even
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when they were breathing down his neck he wouldn't stop that's SC on April 28th 2005 less than 2 weeks
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after after the discovery of August Watkins a farmer discovered the partially clothed decomposing body of a
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23-year-old man thank God his name was Kurt Cunningham and he was found in a drainage ditch about 50 yards from the
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side of highway 307 now according to the investigators it seemed like his body had been lying face down in the muddy
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water in this ditch for about 5 days wow and this made it very difficult to determine a cause of death yeah and a
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time of death it was it really messed with stuff and as a result of the time lapse and decomposition the coroner
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could only kind of speculate about the cause of death and they thought it was asphixiation which fits right into the
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the pattern but he couldn't be completely certain and he felt that it had likely happened within the previous
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couple of weeks but otherwise like all the other scenes there really wasn't any other apparent trauma to the body like
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it was very rare that there would be another trauma to the body that was obvious upon first glance um they didn't
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find any bullet wounds no punctures which again not likely in the other ones either so like Ronald Dominique's other
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victims Kurt Cunningham kind of bounced around is how it was described he bounced around from home to home that's
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sad he been arrested a few times you know just for like you know pretty minor offenses like nothing crazy disturbing
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the peace kind of thing I mean like just things like whatever and at the time of
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his death he was living in Tibido the small town where Ronald Dominique had been born and raised actually okay now
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in the Press Kurt Cunningham was yet more proof that a serial killer was praying on men in the Homa area yeah
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they hadn't at this time really put together like the larger picture that there were actually more victims than
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they even knew at this point which is wild cuz they are all killed the same way yes and there's so many there so
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many now in miday the front page of the shreport times featured mug shots of Lee
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Rett Cunningham Woods Barnett Watkins and Jones and they were above a headline that said serial killer Theory floats
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around case o the article described the similarities between the cases all noting of course that the victims all
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LED what they described as high-risk Lifestyles and quote hung out on the streets and you know how we feel about
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that they made sure to include quote on average they were involved with drugs in
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some way and they generally were know to trade sexual favors for food shelter rides alcohol or other
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drugs they also all had circulatory systems and brains and souls and people who love them but yeah much all the
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other stuff let's focus on the [ __ ] that doesn't matter in this situation because
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they were killed exactly like that's what drives me crazy it's like whether they were in the wrong place at the
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wrong time doing whatever they were doing yep doesn't matter they were killed they don't deserve to be killed
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and it's I don't care what they were doing they're not even they're not even publicizing in it away of like if you
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are involved in this kind of scene like look out like like they're not PR they're doing it in a shameful way
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exactly it's basically to be like toast blame like it's just like I guess that's
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what happens and it's like no like you said if they had said it like here's what they had been doing but they are
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people right they have people who love them they no way deserve this for or asked for this to happen to them but we
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are sharing this in case you happen to be in a similar situation right or you run with similar crowds look out please
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just be more aware of who you're interacting with because we care that everybody stays alive like that's
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there's a way to do that there is so despite the not so subtle inference of victim blaming there the article did
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also luckily attempt to emphasize the more human costs of what was happening here that's good um Kurt Cunningham's
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Father Richard Cunningham shared photographs of his son with the reporter and he acknowledged his son's mistakes
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which makes me sad that he even had to you know like it's not about that it's not about any mistakes he made in his
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life um what he said was quote Kurt was on a path and was too young to wake up but he was a victim not a criminal he
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didn't try to put his problems off on nobody and wouldn't ask for help unless he was really bad off and it's like
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don't worry like don't worry about that like who is a decent person should give a [ __ ] about that and it's like I hate
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that you had to say that like thank you for saying that but I hate that you had to say that right it should just be like
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this is the kind of person he was yeah this was my son and this could be yours and this is what he meant to us yeah but
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a quote from and this one's going to I mean when I tell you the rage when you hear this oh no a quote from a local
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Homa resident easily summed up the public sentiment around the murders at the time and their effect of on feelings
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of safety in the area area they said with so much audacity oh no this resident who is not named quote I don't
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see any Panic here whoever it is attacking men who are involved in drugs and prostitution it's almost like
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somebody's trying to get the trash off the street that's weird cuz they didn't come and get you so I am exactly I'm
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without words can you imagine that's the most callous [ __ ] I have ever heard in
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my like that's be [ __ ] ashamed of yourself grass callous cold somebody's trying to take the trash out essentially
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by killing innocent gave me chills and like a that just like chilled my blood because who I'm sorry are you a [ __ ]
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murderer like Jesus Christ like it's not like there's a guy on the side of the street who's like assaulting and trying
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to murder children and then Ronald Dominique came by and was like I'm going to take care of you yeah like nope that
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that that it's not not that it's these are just men just human beings a lot of them were trying get sober just existing
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had gotten sober exactly a lot of them had kids jobs like significant others they all had friends they all had family
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they all had Parents they all most of them were like like you said working jobs and like really taking care of
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their [ __ ] and also it's like they were people yeah at the end of the day they
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weren't shitty people you should even make these arguments these are just kind people that just are existing and how
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would you feel if anyone in your family had that happen to them that's the thing
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that person I want to be like what makes you right any less trash what what is it
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about you that you'll sit there and on record call somebody trash does that make you less trash to me you are the
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one who seem like trash there like that's the trashiest [ __ ] you could ever say and also name them name you want to
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go on the record and say some [ __ ] [ __ ] anonymously no like that's so [ __ ] up
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and knowing that their family members could see that and had to hear that somebody's mother someone's father could
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read that their kid is their child who's been brutally raped and murdered and left out on the street is trash anyway
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so it doesn't matter a baby that they held in their arms one one day oh God they're like putting it like that that's
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the thing and it's like and hear like a grown ass piece of [ __ ] be like well they're trash anyways so somebody took
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them it's like [ __ ] you you didn't know any of these people you're not perfect
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who the [ __ ] are you [ __ ] off that's what I hate I hate like the the high horse nobody's perfect no we've all done
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[ __ ] that we shouldn't have done we've all said [ __ ] we shouldn't have done we've all had a trash phase in our life
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we've all had a past everyone's [ __ ] up I don't know anyone who has just sailed through life without making a
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mistake absolutely not and anybody who claims they have okay and certain somebody who has sailed through life and
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hasn't made a mistake isn't stupid enough to say on the record that's other people are trash and they just haven't
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made it yet everybody everybody makes mistakes and everybody has those days and it's all right it's all right of
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course it is you [ __ ] up that's life try to fix it try to move on don't do it again like it's just you know what I
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mean like you're trash for saying on record you're not a piece of trash because you've made some mistakes in
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your life so if you're listening right now and you feel like you've made mistakes in your life you're not [ __ ]
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trash no you've made mistakes just try try to pick yourself up try to move on yeah I used to call myself
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guess what I'm not trash you're not trash I'm elegant you are eleg I was going to say you're eleg all
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alanza babies but you're doing just fine okay so don't let anyone call you trash
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cuz you [ __ ] up once in a while okay everyone [ __ ] up so basically anyway just I just pissed me off no I don't
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blame you so the public sentiment around the murders of marginalized men may have
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been casual and dismissive at best but behind the scenes at this moment Detective on the inter agency task force
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were really going nose to the grindstone for this case they were behind the scenes really working on it that's good
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um according to detective Dennis thron I believe it is the idea was that every time there was a killing the evidence
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would go to the same lab take the same path and we do the same core investigative work so they were really
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trying to make sure nothing got [ __ ] up here right still they didn't have a lot to work with there was not a lot
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left at these scenes there was really nothing they could go on which is really crazy when you think about how many
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people he's murdered at this point and he's been able to stay and like how personal the manner is in which he kills
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these people like he's I hate to say this but like right up on them like squeezing life out of
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them personal things you can do like fingerprint like a it's not like this is like the 1800s
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when it's like we're not up at like we're in the early 2000s right now yeah at this point we've got the DNA I mean
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it's still in its infy infancy really you would think there's something but I'll wait yeah I'll wait don't worry
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unfortunately that didn't change much when the next victim was discovered less than two months later no on July 2nd
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2005 the fully clothed body of 28-year-old Alonzo Hogan was discovered in a cane field off Highway 306 in St
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Charles Parish according to the coroner he had been raped and strangled but there was no additional evidence on the
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body or at the scene to conclusively link Hogan to any of the other bodies either that was one of the other issues
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they were working with Not only was there nothing to connect these bodies to a killer there wasn't anything to
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connect these bodies to each other interesting to say that like these were killed by this these people were killed
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by the same person other than the Strang that strangulation there was no physical
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evidence to say this was the same person or this was you know and they were in so
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many different places that it was hard hard to connect them cuz they were probably sitting there like how can this
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guy be everywhere exactly so this was putting detectives absolutely no closer to catching this killer and in the
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absence of evidence leading to the Killer's identity detectives continued working to connect those victims they
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were like if we can't find him right now we got to connect them and maybe it'll lead to him cuz there's got to be
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something here but that work was interrupted by yet another murder just two months after the discovery of Alonzo
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Hogan's body this time in terab Bon Parish I hope I said that right I looked up the pronunciation I bet hopefully I
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it's like teron ter oh you I know exactly where you learned the pronunciation from the French guy my guy
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I can tell no I love that guy so on August 16th um the body and this one is so young the body of
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17-year-old Wayne Smith was discovered in a drainage ditch off Bayou Grand Caillou like Kurt Cunningham Wayne Smith
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had been in the water for several days oh no uh this made his identity and the cause of death a big challenge for
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investigators and technicians with the coroner's office um it kind of seems like this was on purpose and like
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Dominique was trying to [ __ ] with the investigators in the coroner like it seems like this wasn't an accident that
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he was doing this he was doing it intentionally that makes sense eventually detectives were able to
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luckily use dental records and an image of Wayne Smith's tattoo to confirm his identity but the cause of death which
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they did believe was strangulation was officially listed as undetermined cuz they just couldn't confirm it detectives
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interviewed friends and neighbors all of whom were absolutely baffled that this happened to way 17 you're whole life
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ahead of you and they were baffled as to what could have possibly LED Wayne to maybe join the company of what would end
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up being his killer and none had seen or heard anything that would lead to an answer like this does doesn't make sense
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that he would just go with someone like now at the time of his death Wayne Smith
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was a senior uh at ellender Memorial High School and despite having a little bit of a history of Behavioral issues at
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one point he had begun taking his future much more seriously as of late so again
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everybody makes mistakes he had made his little mistakes and he had done it when
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he was young and he was already in his senior year already taking steps on the right path that's that's a pretty big
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thing Smith's mother told reps quote he was taking welding and had totally changed his life over I didn't even get
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to see the body before Wayne's burial because of what that man did to his body and then she said I buried a
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box oh my God that's unthinkably horrific that cuts so deep I feel so horrible your 17-year-old child and
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whoever whoever wakes up one day and thinks that that's going to happen to them like that's going to be your news
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at the end of the day could you couldn't fathom that and just the fact that like
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she didn't get to say goodbye yeah yeah and it buried a box oh my God that I like that makes me want to cry now
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despite the lack of physical evidence detectives working on the task force had started finally making connections
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between some of the victims and this was starting to finally create a larger picture about how this serial killer was
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operating several of the victims were picked up what they found they they ended up finding out that several of
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them were picked up at the Sugar Bowl Motel which is a place known to police for several reasons okay and this we all
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know like places like that yeah of course and this led to investigators to theorize that their killer was likely
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offering something to lure their victims into the vehicle they were thinking either drugs or money or something else
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right that's what the investigators were thinking they had started making what felt like real progress at this point um
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in the summer of 2005 five but then remember this timeline is the summer of 2005 so everything got sidelined very
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unexpectedly by Hurricane C on August 29th one of the worst natural disasters to ever hit the g Coast so
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remember this was still happening and Ronald Dominique was still terrorizing Louisiana while residents were dealing
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with the trauma and Devastation of Katrina it's like how did he even manage to get
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around his entire Community is dealing with one of the worst things you could ever deal with just Devastation yeah and
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he is traumatizing them even further like it's just wow it's beyond it's beyond unbelievable so as law enforcement and
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other state and federal organizations across Louisiana work to clean up the physical social and psychological damage
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of Katrina Ronald Dominique used the chaos to his Advantage yeah he quickly ended up picking up another victim he
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killed 40-year-old homar resident chrille to investigators chrisville was just one more name on a seemingly
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endless list of missing people in the wake of Katrina that's the other thing a lot of people were missing so many
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people ended up going missing and he used this because you don't know where they went right you're you're blaming it
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on Hurricane Katrina when it's actually guyd Dominique but that's not the only reason that he wasn't chrisville wasn't
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immediately recognized as one of Dominique's victims he also didn't really fit the pattern
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as much as the other people did he didn't have any criminal hisory to speak of he had stable employment he had very
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close and maintained very close relationships with all his family and friends which a lot of the other um
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victims had close relationships with friends and family yeah but some of them there was like a a little bit of a
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pattern where it was like an In-N-Out kind of thing gone through hiccups and whatnot this one just seemed a little
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more stable in that s in that part of his life yeah he's also a little bit older than he was a little old
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but still chille was one of Dom's victims his storm ravaged remains were found in mid October when a mid- October
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wow when a farmer in Napoleonville spotted his skull in a field off Highway One what the rest of his body was
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discovered a short time later in a drainage ditch because he had been through the storm like he had killed him
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and left his body to be ravaged by Hurricane it's incredible that he was ever even found it really is like wow
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now like the more recent victims the state of the remains made it impossible for investigators to determine the cause
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of crisil's death but the best the coroner could say was that he died sometime in September wow now according
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to family members dille was last seen at his mother's house in early September when he'd stopped by to help clean out
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her refrigerator after Katrina but he hadn't been seen since he left her house that afternoon oh my God now as the body
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count continued to ride at this point investigators on the task force were reaching a point of frustrated
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exhaustion cuz every time they take a step forward it's like 15 Steps back right and every time they take a step
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forward he kills someone else and it just adds another layer to it and it was made worse by those higher up on the
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command chain demanding closure of this case so they're feeling pressure now yeah and sometimes that's not going to
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help no and they were fairly certain they knew how the killer was getting his victims to go with them for the most
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part and so many of them showed signs of having been bound but there was no other
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evidence of a struggle which is what was a little confusing to them at first because they're like they're not
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struggling seems like they're going willingly why are they bound yeah like what's going on like where does that
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come into play like if there's and so they started begging the question like if there was a possibility that they
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were being willingly tied up why were so many people willingly agreeing to be tied up by this person like what what
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was he doing to get them in that position seems a little out of the ordinary no it does so as detectives
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pondered how the killer seemed to subdue his victims with such ease is it just because he's like a really big guy no he
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has a way of doing it okay um as this was happening recent paroi John Banning was relaying an incredibly strange story
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to his parole officer his parole officer was Tom Lambert who also happened to be
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part of the serial killer task force oh wow now according to Banning he had been
00:27:25
walking down the highway when he said a white guy in a pickup truck pulled to the side of the road and waved him over
00:27:31
to the driver's side window creepy the guy offered to give Banning a ride and even offered a beer but the weirdest
00:27:37
part was when he pulled out a picture of a partially nude woman and asked how' you like to [ __ ] this attractive white
00:27:43
girl what the [ __ ] Banning said and this is all according to Banning by the way
00:27:48
yeah Banning said sure but as soon as they got back to the guy's trailer he said everything felt wrong and I believe
00:27:55
this like I believe Banning story yeah um he said said everything felt wrong immediately okay and he said there were
00:28:00
old clothes and Christmas decorations everywhere even though Christmas was several months away what the [ __ ] and
00:28:06
when the guy said he was going to need to tie Banning up before the woman arrived he was like um I don't know
00:28:14
about this and he was like n I'm out and he ran out of the trailer cuz he was like I don't no like not happening with
00:28:20
me so he said he ran towards the highway where he hitched a ride back home completely unaware he had just escaped
00:28:26
one of the serial killers in American history holy so what Ronald Dominique seems to be doing according to Banning
00:28:33
and it does fit why some of some of these men that's the other thing not all cuz there are some of these men who have
00:28:41
family members mothers other family members who have come out and said and I want to respect that that they've said
00:28:47
there's no way that like they either had a significant other yeah or you know there was no way they would have agreed
00:28:54
to this proposition so I want to be clear about that that this seems like it could have been a way that some of these
00:29:00
happened not all but this is not a blanket over everybody like I'm sure he had different ways of doing this with
00:29:06
each victim to make it work for him but this seems like it could have been true for Banning I think that is the Reon to
00:29:14
lie about this he was just like this happened to me like you just said it does account for some of the exactly
00:29:20
cases so and again he has no reason to lie about it right like why would he make this up and why would it fit so
00:29:25
well and not every victim was bound not every victim was bound but most of them were bound okay okay um now after
00:29:32
Banning relayed the story to his parole officer he offered to show Lambert where
00:29:37
the man lived in Bayou Blue okay and that's the other thing he doesn't just say the story he brings the receipts so
00:29:46
and eventually what we find out is yes Ronald Dominique did use this technique sometimes not always once again but
00:29:54
sometimes he did now a few weeks later lamber ber called Dennis Thor thoron and told him the story about the man in the
00:30:01
trailer which prompted detective thoron and Don berson to take a trip out to the
00:30:06
property when they'd arrived berson popped open the mailbox and flipped through the mail the letters all seemed
00:30:12
to be addressed to a woman but then he reached she reached an envelope addressed to Ronald J Dominique mhm now
00:30:20
a few days later detectives brought Ronald Dominique in for questioning this the closest we've
00:30:26
gotten here yeah they' explained they received a complaint from Banning but Dominique brushed it off telling berson
00:30:31
and Thorton quote I'm gay tying up JN was just part of a sex game nothing more than that okay to further demonstrate
00:30:40
his innocence Ronald willingly agreed to allow technicians to take a cheek swab for DNA oh once they'd finished
00:30:47
questioning Dominique the detectives gave him a ride home and thanked him for his cooperation later that afternoon it
00:30:53
occurred to Dennis Thorton that while they had checked and rechecked the sex offender Reg registry several times at
00:30:58
this point they'd only checked for individuals who'd been convicted of sex crimes and thoron checked it again I I
00:31:06
know where we're going if you remember way back I think it was part one this time he looked at arrests for which
00:31:13
there were no conviction and he found exactly what he was looking for Ronald Dominique's arrests for sexual assault
00:31:20
in the 90s he had several now investigators on the task force were fairly certain this was their
00:31:28
guy they were like this is it they just felt it but if they were going to get a conviction they needed to you know they
00:31:33
needed more than a few suspicious coincidences and a complaint of a near Miss sexual assault from a man on perole
00:31:40
at this point to be honest like un wasn't going to hold up in court to be quite honest and they set about digging
00:31:46
into his background and trying to build a bigger case but although they were working on behalf of an inter agency
00:31:52
task force they were still working across the lines of several different jurisdic itions which made it way slower
00:31:59
and more daunting than it probably could should have been so complicated now while thoron and berson tried to find
00:32:06
connections between Dominique and the victims Ronald Dominique was back out on the streets so he knows that they're
00:32:14
this man got brought in for questioning and did a cheek swab he knows they're on
00:32:19
to him wild and he still went back out he was confident that he was many steps ahead of the investigators and there
00:32:26
wasn't any danger and just like he's like an animal he's so [ __ ] bold that way like he is an animal you're right
00:32:33
he's like uncontrollable he's unhinged that's really on November 5th 2005 Ronald was out reading meters around
00:32:40
because remember he still has a job of course he's a meter reader he was reading so he was out reading meters
00:32:46
around La forch Parish when he ran into 21-year-old Nick pelgrin that afternoon pelgrin was in need of money and had
00:32:53
signed up for a some day labor um which which is what had brought him to this house that uh Ronald Dominique was
00:33:00
reading a meter for in the first place confident in his approach Dominique offered money in exchange for sex to
00:33:06
which according to him pelgrin agreed but first he said he needed to finish up his day of work the two men made
00:33:14
arrangements for Dominique to return later that afternoon and he did and returned several day hours later and he
00:33:20
drove Nick pelig back to the trailer on Dominique's sister's property that he was staying on the fact that he's also
00:33:26
staying on his s do her property like what 4 days later a truck driver discovered Nick pel's fully closed body
00:33:35
in a remote wooded area in lach Parish just south of Tibido like all the others before him pelgrin had been raped and
00:33:43
strangled and there was no additional evidence left at the scene wow the discovery was a serious blow to thoron
00:33:50
and berson because they had hoped their careful strategic interview of Dominique
00:33:55
would be enough to at least least put something in his head to make him stop looking for his next victim like they
00:34:02
were hoping they had planted in his head like we on to you buddy like don't make
00:34:06
any stupid moves so they felt a little like they they felt like guilt they were like we wanted to stop him before he
00:34:13
could do this which of course it's not their fault like need strong case now thoron called the lab to find out at
00:34:20
this point cuz he's so mad and he's like [ __ ] like somebody else just lost their
00:34:23
life like what the [ __ ] so detective thoron called the lab and was like where are you in the process of analyzing that
00:34:29
DNA that was taken from Dominique because even though he gave it willingly people are huers is a thing and maybe he
00:34:36
did it thinking he's indestructible yeah so after demanding a rush on the analysis the DNA sample came back as a
00:34:44
match to the hairs found on Oliver Le Banks's body okay seven years earlier I knew there had to be a hair I knew it
00:34:54
but but it was a mitochondrial match okay meaning it could easily have been explained away as being from a relative
00:35:03
of Dominique's mitochondrial DNA we've talked about this before but I think it's been a long time since we talked
00:35:09
about it yeah it's ringing a bell but mitochondrial DNA is inherited from your maternal side so any person whose direct
00:35:16
whose direct maternal line intersects with your own could be a match to mitochondria DNA so it involves a lot of
00:35:23
people yeah thoron and berson knew this way be enough for conviction they knew in their heart this is the guy of and
00:35:30
this is proving it but they need even more but legally this isn't going to hold up but it was enough to convince
00:35:36
the higher ups to commit more resources to the investigation because they were getting more getting hotter on the trail
00:35:42
no soon after Ronald Dominique was being monitored 24/7 nice and investigators were determined to catch him before he
00:35:50
could kill again the Press immediately latched on to the murder of Nick pelgrin correctly assuming him to be yet another
00:35:59
victim of the serial killer that was stalking the Bayou pel's mother on the other hand was steadfast in her belief
00:36:05
that her son had not been killed by the serial killer but had in fact been murdered by some of his friends quote
00:36:11
unquote what to whom he owed money for drugs oh no his mother Veronica said quote they were all on drugs they all
00:36:19
did drugs together they did everything in the book together oh she was very angry with investigators for not
00:36:25
believing her when she said it was these friends who did it and if she really believed that then I get why she was
00:36:30
frustrated she was like you're going the wrong way again there was also a lot in
00:36:34
this investigation being held close to the chest so she also didn't have all the information to work with on her side
00:36:41
that we have right now with the benefit of hide and sight right so just like remember that and she had obvious reason
00:36:47
to believe otherwise she knew more about Nick pelgrin than we did and she she knew more about her son and less about
00:36:53
the investigation than we know so it's like you know you can see why she got frustrated absolutely now it's unclear
00:36:58
how aware Ronald Dominique was of the police like intense police surveillance and scrutiny that he was under at this
00:37:05
moment but it's very likely he had some idea because he suddenly stopped all illegal activities for almost a year wow
00:37:13
a whole [ __ ] year a whole year detectives on the task force used this time to increase the speed with which
00:37:20
the evidence was being processed and analyzed thank goodness cuz they were like finally we get a to actually focus
00:37:27
on the evidence and like get it going we like and they were running cuz they were
00:37:31
like we don't know when he's going to suddenly crack and do it again so we got to get this [ __ ] in yeah in that time
00:37:37
another mitochondrial DNA match was made this time to the seamen collected from Angel mahia's body in 1999 okay boom
00:37:47
that's something right there now that we have two mitochondrial DNA matches it's
00:37:50
like that's at least something mhm so Dominique's resistance to the urges driving him him to kill finally did fail
00:37:58
him on October 15th 2006 he picked up 27-year-old Christopher sutterfield on the side of the road in h and uh where
00:38:07
are the police not sure how this happened not sure everything was the same uh sutterfield had been discovered fully
00:38:17
closed he had ligature marks on his wrists and neck and he' been raped and strangled before being dumped in a
00:38:23
drainage ditch off Highway 69 in southern bville Parish I don't know if they had eased up on the surveillance
00:38:30
because they were trying to like focus on the evidence and he had gone a year without doing anything so that maybe
00:38:36
they were easing back thinking he knows we're on to him so like I don't know I can't for sure say how this occurred
00:38:44
it's that's but it's awful that it occurred um that was the only difference was that OB obviously Dominique was
00:38:52
becoming more conscious of the risks because he had driven in this case more than 2 hours Northwest to Iberville
00:38:59
Parish in order to dump Christopher's body what the [ __ ] so he was obviously he was he was he knew what was going on
00:39:07
otherwise despite the considerable distance investigators immediately handed the case over to the task force
00:39:13
that's good who made the difficult decision that they were going to arrest Dominique rather than wait for a nuclear
00:39:19
DNA match that might never turn up and how many more people have to die before you get that thing and they were like we
00:39:25
can either wait for that nulear DNA to like really nail him or we can arrest him now and like hope for the best and
00:39:31
hope that we'll get a confession out of him and it's like we got to stop them you got to we your options luckily they
00:39:37
went with arrest because they were like we can't let them keep killing people like this is it's getting out of hand so
00:39:42
many people we're up to like over 20 AR we God it's unbelievable now while Thornton and berson worked to get an
00:39:49
arrest warrant for Ronald Dominique he was actually having a falling out with his sister who'd grown tired of the
00:39:55
police surveillance and asked him to leave her property without anywhere else to park his trailers and nowhere else to
00:40:01
stay Ronald found a room in a single room o occupancy in h this place was somewhere typically relied on by oil rig
00:40:10
workers and other short-term renters it was just somewhere you need to stay on the way somewhere else it was Ronald's
00:40:16
sister who actually directed detective thoron and berson to her brother's new address when they knocked on her door to
00:40:23
serve the warrant sister no you can go find him yeah and having to deal with that like and not and obviously not
00:40:30
knowing exactly what was going on yeah now further complicating matters someone had leaked the information about the
00:40:36
arrest to the Press who were already at Ronald's sister's house when the detectives arrived and followed them to
00:40:44
the place where he was actually staying right now fortunately Ronald went willingly and quietly with Detective
00:40:49
thoron and berson who marched him out of the building in front of a horde of reporters all shouting questions and
00:40:56
snapping photos as they put him in the back of a car now in the interview room Dominique appeared calm and confident at
00:41:03
first as thoron and berson began the interrogation process he thinks he's a hundred steps ahead he's not just the
00:41:09
fact that he gave that cheek swabble tells you that they had arrested him on warrants for the murders of Oliver Le
00:41:15
Banks and Manuel Reed so Thorton's plan was to keep the conversation to those murders only and hope that in discussing
00:41:23
those that Dominique would reveal other information about other victims like accidentally MH so Ronald told
00:41:31
detectives that he'd met Oliver Le banks at a French Quarter gay bar and said Le
00:41:36
Banks head quote wanted to fool around now remember this is coming from Ronald Dominique yeah so we was a first class
00:41:44
monster the highest order and a piece of [ __ ] yep so whatever comes out of his
00:41:49
mouth take it with a big old grain of salt the largest grain you could possibly find now so Dominique is
00:41:55
claiming that all Oliver Le Banks approached him I doubt that I no no no no no for almost a fact it didn't happen
00:42:04
Dominique claimed it was entirely common for this to happen in the quarter you know like offers of sex happened often
00:42:11
the he like everyone like don't worry about it like he's acting like I don't know why you're don't be scandalized and
00:42:17
wanting to keep him talking neither detective was going to challenge that assert they were just like yes
00:42:23
absolutely going uh so Ronald's claim after the two had finished you know fooling around in the back seat of his
00:42:29
car Le Banks he claimed had pulled a knife on him indicating that he was planning to rape Ronald if he didn't
00:42:37
hand over all his money supposedly acting in selfdefense Ronald claimed he grabbed the tire iron from
00:42:45
the floor and swung it at Le Banks's head according to Dominique things escalated and he wrapped the seat bels
00:42:51
around Le Banks's neck and began choking him oh God when he realized he'd killed
00:42:55
Oliver lanks Ronald told detectives he drove around for hours until he found the dark overpass where he dumped to
00:43:02
lank's body then returned home I just want to be clear he's a lying sack of [ __ ] 100% And that's not how that
00:43:09
happened I'm sure some of those injuries are how Oliver Le Banks was injured but
00:43:14
no I don't believe it well look at oliv build and look at Ronald Ronald Dominique's build I don't think he was
00:43:22
that threatened by in in my opinion and I just don't I don't I don't believe it no and neither should
00:43:28
you no uh so thoron and berson could see that Dominique was definitely like they
00:43:34
were like okay so we can see exactly what he's going to do from here on out he's going to do the self-defense angle
00:43:39
and he's going to claim that all of these men just attacked him that's crazy they people just attacking you left and
00:43:44
right so they were careful about how they asked their questions because they were like we I I will give it to them
00:43:49
they were like we have him we cannot lose him we got to be really strategic about this we can't [ __ ] this up now
00:43:57
moving on to Manuel Reed Dominique claimed he'd also met Reed in a bar and Manuel Reed had approached him with an
00:44:04
offer same thing I want you guys to look up Ronald Dominique and tell me that these men are approaching him the answer
00:44:11
is a big old no I don't know about that maybe in his own mind that's what was happening but it wasn't um and again
00:44:18
Manuel Reed walked up to him and asked if he would like to fool around so the exact same story as Oliver Le Banks
00:44:24
isn't that wild that's crazy isn't that such a weird coincidence it's worth noting Ronald demonstrated a certain
00:44:30
degree of discomfort when discussing sex with the detectives he would bounce back
00:44:35
and forth between like childish euphemisms almost like very juvenile euphemisms yeah and then oddly clinical
00:44:43
language like it was like there was no in between it was very strange they said it was like uncomfortable how he was cuz
00:44:50
he seemed uncomfortable at times and then he would seem very like clinical about it and then like like two yeah
00:44:56
they just couldn't get comfortable with how he was talking about it it's clear that he's obviously paying men the like
00:45:03
some of these men for sex he claims that they solicited him every single time that is just not true um which he
00:45:10
repeatedly refers to as fooling around like he uses the term fooling around all the time okay again just showing how
00:45:17
uncomfortable he is even in this space yeah now Dominique's description of the murder of Manuel Reed is very similar to
00:45:24
that of Oliver Le Banks he claims they went back to the car and began having sex this is according to Ronald
00:45:30
Dominique but Reed began quote unquote sexually assaulting him at a certain point no how that doesn't even make
00:45:37
sense so he said he grabbed the tire iron from the floor and hit the man in the head once he'd incapacitate Emanuel
00:45:44
Reed Dominique tried to claims he tried to tie the man's hands so quote he wouldn't hurt me no
00:45:51
more I'm sorry what like come on according to Dominque Reed came to a few minutes later and managed to get his
00:45:58
hands free of the ropes which is when Ronald Dominique wrapped the Rope around his neck and began choking him thoron
00:46:05
made note of these details as particularly significant because I don't know if anybody else has picked up on
00:46:10
this big gaping hole in all of his stories um regardless of the self-defense framing that he thinks is
00:46:17
like airtight here if he brought the rope and tire iron knowing he could use them that says pre premeditation why you
00:46:25
bring rope exactly why you got a tire iron just lying on your floor at all times but why
00:46:30
is the Rope there is the real and why can you just grab it why is it so close you know where it is and the tire iron
00:46:36
it's like you you would think that if which I obviously it's not the case but if you had gone through that traumatic
00:46:42
experience with Oliver and you killed him with that tire iron you you still have that that's the thing it's like you
00:46:48
still have the tire iron you wouldn't get rid of that and again it's like you went through that traumatic situation
00:46:53
and you're just like right back out doing the same thing yeah I don't think so not worried about it at all also if
00:46:58
you're in a car you don't need to tie anybody's hands up or do anything like that or choke them with seat bels you
00:47:04
kick them out of your car and you drive the [ __ ] out of there none of this happened the fact that he brought rope
00:47:09
and attire iron with him tells you everything you need to know that he was planning to to bind someone he wasn't
00:47:15
you don't just have rope hanging around just willy-nilly now with Manuel Reed dead Ronald again drove around for for a
00:47:23
while until he found a dumpster where he left Manuel Reed's body and then he just
00:47:28
returned home so it's like you're already [ __ ] up like No One Believes you and try you already [ __ ] up when
00:47:34
you said these men approached you no one believed you there exactly and then second to say it's self-defense when you
00:47:38
brought weapons with you sorry I don't believe it now Ronald Dominique had essentially admitted to killing two men
00:47:46
at this point like he had he had admitted to it um in self-defense was the caveat but thoron felt that he'd
00:47:53
built a pretty good rapport with with him at this point and he was like you know what I'm I'm being the good cop I
00:47:59
feel like he's buying it so he's like I think I could get him to confess to more
00:48:04
here like he's pretty easily giving us these two he's lying but he's about why but like eventually we'll get to the
00:48:10
truth so he returned back to the interrogation room and the two detectives sat down with Dominique again
00:48:16
and decided to take a chance that he might be willing to keep going so detective Thorton said quote I know
00:48:22
you're suffering but I think you'll agree there are others and WR in saying that and Ronald paused for a minute what
00:48:30
seemed to the detectives to be an attempt to stall they said before replying most probably I just don't
00:48:36
remember most probably so they were like hm and so they proceeded gently here and
00:48:42
detective thoron and berson tried to get Dominique to confess but after having alluded to his guilt he seemed
00:48:48
preoccupied suddenly with the what his sister would think of him all of a sudden he was like and he started
00:48:54
begging the detective IV to apologize to her on his behalf so he suddenly just switched gears and wouldn't focus on
00:49:00
what they were trying to do anymore so they were like okay we're not going to push now while this is happening while
00:49:07
thoron and berson are interviewing Dominique they're letting him have his moment of like worrying about his sister
00:49:11
because they don't want to push him out of this mindset a team of crime scene technicians were conducting a thorough
00:49:17
search of the two trailers on his sister's property in hom oh his poor [ __ ] sister dude to have to have your
00:49:24
like yeah they knew it was common for serial killers to keep quote unquote trophies
00:49:31
but the technicians were unable to find anything belonging to uh Dominique's victims interesting so Thorton asked
00:49:38
Ronald Dominique about this because they were connected with him and he said just
00:49:42
maybe so like the way he asked this was he said to him just maybe they left any articles of clothing or jewelry around
00:49:50
like you know like you've admitted that you knew these people like did they leave anything around like just not
00:49:56
making it a big deal like we're not trying to look for evidence we just want to know do they leave [ __ ] at your place
00:50:01
like is that something and the detectives were hoping they could find more physical evidence than what they
00:50:06
that could use that they could use Excuse me to connect him to these victims outside of his words right now
00:50:13
right but Dominique was adamant that he'd always thrown everything away then detective thoron tried another
00:50:21
direct approach and this was I really think this was a good idea cuz remember there were a couple of men at least one
00:50:27
or two who were on a bicycle yes yeah um and so he just said what about a bicycle
00:50:33
you ever throw a bicycle away like just pulled that one right out cu he was like
00:50:37
I know there's a bicycle yeah and Ronald thought for a minute and then said maybe
00:50:41
once or twice so [ __ ] dude this can you imagine sitting across the table from him and
00:50:48
he's like I don't know I don't remember but the thing was detective thoron it was working how he was how he was
00:50:54
talking to him was working to be working because suddenly Ronald Dominique seemed
00:51:01
almost eager to tell him more really he continued to avoid outright confessions to of murder but his responses to the
00:51:10
detective's questions unquestionably implicated him in more deaths okay he was not going to confess right away but
00:51:18
he was implica maybe I threw a bicycle away once or twice and uh neither two victim that we just talked about one
00:51:25
everything away there were references at one point to the storage shed in which he' left Michael Barnett's body oh my
00:51:32
God the bike he dumped alongside detrell Woods's body and the unique and other unique aspects of all the other murders
00:51:40
he was able to pull out of his ass now knowing they'd finally gotten him to somewhat crack detective Thorton and
00:51:46
berson pulled out the file of photographs and went through all 23 victims with Ronald Dominique and they
00:51:53
were like you tell me who this person is and you you tell me where they where you
00:51:56
put them you tell me everything over the course of their 6-hour conversation the
00:52:02
detectives went through the photos one by one with Dominique providing details of each murder including the vehicle he
00:52:11
was driving at the time where he was living what he'd done to each victim in some cases he'd recognize them as sex
00:52:19
workers or referred to them as addicts in need of money and said he'd lure them into the vehicle with a promise of money
00:52:27
or money in exchange for sex in other cases like if the victim was not a sex worker and presumed to be what he said
00:52:34
presumed to be straight Ronald would show them a picture of a nude or mostly nude woman and ask if they would be
00:52:40
interested in having sex with her but once the victims were in the car it always unfolded the same way Ronald
00:52:46
would tie them up rape them strangle them and then leave their body in a convenient location nearby Jesus and he
00:52:53
just cracked how's scary is it that like a couple hours before he's like I don't
00:52:59
remember and then he remembers everything down to the vehicle he was driving at the time every detail where
00:53:06
he was working what he was doing scary and he just cracked like that shows you how persistant those detectives were
00:53:12
they sat and Drew this out of him slowly wow yeah the following day December 2nd news of the arrest hit the
00:53:22
Louisiana papers and although law enforcement was very careful not to reveal that Dominique was a serial
00:53:27
killer the Press Had No Reservations about comparing him to other recently captured serial killers like Derek
00:53:33
toddlee and Shan Vincent Gillis uh the usual shock followed a few days later with everyone remarking that Ronald
00:53:41
Dominique didn't seem like the kind of guy who would do something like this shelter manager Raymond Borg told
00:53:47
reporters quote you wouldn't suppose this dude could do what they say he looks like somebody from a church and I
00:53:52
was like I don't know people who go to church can be [ __ ] too yeah everywhere I get that you're like he
00:53:57
looks like he's just like regular dude yeah other residents at the shelter where Dominique was staying were as
00:54:03
surprised one resident said he didn't look scary if they hadn't arrested him he could have stayed here 20 years and
00:54:08
nobody would have thought anything about him that's crazy which is horrifying now
00:54:12
within a few days of his arrest Terry bone Parish D district attorney Joseph weights had announced that he intended
00:54:19
to seek the death penalty for the murders committed in um in in at least his district m and it was likely that
00:54:26
the other District Attorneys would do the same they would all follow I would think the that fact gave law enforcement
00:54:31
leverage in the form of a plea deal okay if Dominique would take them to all 23 dump sites and confess to at least eight
00:54:39
murders eight of the ones that they felt like they had the most for then the da would take the death penalty off the
00:54:46
table okay now Ronald jumped at the opportunity and on the morning of December 2nd 2006 a caravan of like half
00:54:54
dozen police cars drove from one end of the state to the other as Ronald Dominique showed them precisely where
00:55:00
he' left each of the bodies now everyone on the task force and in the state attorney's office knew
00:55:07
they were never going to be able to convict Dominique on all 23 counts it's just it's un of a lot faced with a very
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difficult decision to risk going to court or forfeiting some of the charges state's attorney Mark rhods made the
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decision to charge Dominique with the eight strongest cases that just in order to get a serial killer off the streets
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yeah and the plan had the added benefit of sparing a lot of family members the pain of a long drawn out trial appeals
00:55:37
all this [ __ ] that's a lot but first they did get the approval from the families of each victim which they all
00:55:43
gave without hesitation wow that's awesome that they actually did that like went to each family and I love that that
00:55:49
was part of it and like like kudos to those family members that were like nail them on these eight like now I know he
00:55:57
did it like I can you know I mean like kudos to them for being able to like think that way through this because it
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would be hard AB if you're one of the cases that is not one of the eights you want Justice you're going to feel like
00:56:09
you didn't get the full you know you or you could feel that way and it's like it's it's nice that they were think they
00:56:14
were seeing the forest through the trees here takes a big person by the way if you're hearing little like Bonks every
00:56:19
now and then sorry John's throwing a tennis ball at the wall outside with the dogs and I think he forgets that the
00:56:25
wall is right here love you so much love you all but I just think that like good
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for them like these family members have been through the [ __ ] Mill yeah and they're badass they really are as the
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task force work to confirm the details provided by Ronald Dominique district attorneys in the various parishes raced
00:56:46
to get their cases together to prosecute the killer teron uh da Joe weits said we'll have to get together to see who
00:56:53
can do it the fastest as tends to happen in serial killer cases police and Sheriff's departments
00:56:59
also looked at other unsolved cases they thought could maybe be connected to Ronald Dominique police in Tibido for
00:57:06
example thought Ronald might have been responsible for the 1992 murder of Hunter Horgan a 47-year-old Episcopalian
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priest whose body was discovered a few year a few yards from the flower shop where Dominique was working at the time
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wow right police chief Craig melon KH told reporters quote I think it's responsible for us to go look and see if
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we can connect Mr Dominique to that killing yeah now as investigators and others in law enforcement prepared their
00:57:34
cases against Dominique the families of the victim struggled with the news of this arrest um Nicholas pellerin's
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mother Veronica found little comfort in this arrest she's the she's the mother who
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thought that it was his friends she told reporters he took my kids's life from me
00:57:51
and I'll never forgive this man others just and and it's like you know that's the thing he took my kidss life from me
00:57:57
nothing's going to make me feel better no like this isn't how do you move on from that closure isn't the word justice
00:58:03
isn't the word we've talked to to victim's family members that say like you don't really get word to yeah to
00:58:11
make me feel better I I don't have my child anymore I don't think closure is really a thing when it comes to your
00:58:18
family M murder specifically exactly um and there was some people who were um un
00:58:24
Ely disturbed by the gay aspects of the case uh and they refused to believe that
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Dominique was the one who killed their loved ones because they didn't want to believe the aspect of he could possibly
00:58:35
be bringing them in by offering sex um and obviously I'm not going to say who which you know some people were
00:58:44
disturbed by that part which also shows you like how big of a role that played in this case as well because even on
00:58:51
this end of things right there was stuff going on there so it's like that was a big thing with how this was reported and
00:58:57
how this was looked at by in all angles yeah truly um the families of chrisville
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and Anoka Jones both of whom were married with Children told reporters neither would have submitted to bondage
00:59:09
sex with a man or a woman like they just wouldn't have like not another person other than their significant other yeah
00:59:16
and you get it like that's like they know their family member you know like and that's why I said to put a blanket
00:59:24
thing on all these cases and say this was the way he did this across the board I don't believe that no I don't think so
00:59:30
I think he did have different ways of getting these people in there you know like some of these men could have been
00:59:35
lured in by like hey I have a job and it will pay this much money MH I just like
00:59:39
I have this job at this house you know like it could be something as innocuous as that of course and I almost think
00:59:44
it's kind of like Ronald Dominique painting it the other way a lot of the times I think so it's another way for
00:59:50
him to like shame them exact almost you know it's like so when you look look at this case know that like he's a
00:59:56
bullshitter and he's an [ __ ] yeah and there we don't know how these men were lured he's saying that they were lured
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yeah and he's claiming like some of these were self-defense when it's very crystal clear that not a single one of
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these murders was self-defense so just like when you look at this case know that that like you know like he's the
01:00:14
one saying this and he is not a reliable [ __ ] so it's like you have to look at the family members they know
01:00:20
their their family member if they're saying that they never would have gone with this
01:00:25
I believe them over him yep same and we won't know that's the thing unfortunately only he and the victim
01:00:31
knows what happened in each scenario and he's the unreliable one here and he's the only one left yeah so sad on
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September 24th 2008 Ronald Dominique stood before a judge in District Court and pleaded guilty to the murders of
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Kenneth Randolph Michael Barnett Leon Lett August Watkins Kurt Cunningham Alonzo Hogan Christ DeVille Wayne Smith
01:00:55
and Nicholas pelan Dominique never took his eyes off the floor like a little [ __ ] that he is just going to say
01:01:02
little [ __ ] as judge Randy beton court read the charges State's attorney Mark rhods told the judge quote the lives of
01:01:09
eight young men were taken from these families by the action of the defendant actions of the defendant he knew nothing
01:01:15
about them or their families and he callously killed the victims and left a lifetime of pain as their legacy yep
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when rhs finished his closing statement judge beton Court sentence Dominique to eight life sentences without the
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possibility of parole nice and he is in Angola State Prison a Penitentiary still
01:01:37
alive yep he is stay he is still alive um he was brought right into it's it's Louisiana state prison but it's called
01:01:45
Angola because it's in Angola oh okay um he remains there today and he will stay
01:01:49
there until he dies wow and let me tell you that prison is one of the most dangerous prisons in in the entire world
01:01:56
definitely in the country you know what as far as it's concerned in his case good maximum maximum prison and it is
01:02:03
woo wow what a absolutely gut-wrenching case and it's a horrific case what an important one to tell though because the
01:02:12
fact that I had never heard of that like maybe Rumblings here or there but I don't know like I never knew any of the
01:02:19
details of that case cuz the victims aren't co-eds yeah you know they're not like you know and it's unfortunate but
01:02:25
to say that that way but it's just like it's the that's the way it is it's like they were treated like somehow they had
01:02:33
invited MERS and it's like no that is not the case and you know like that it cuz I again I didn't really know about
01:02:42
this case yeah before like we started researching it and I was like damn and then just some of the things said along
01:02:48
the way oh my God the fact that these people couldn't even rest after being murdered like they weren't even treated
01:02:54
like humans after they were murdered that's so gross being called trash after they were Vici after they were raped and
01:03:02
strangled and their bodies dumped on the side of the road they were still being called trash that's heartbreaking like I
01:03:07
just that really blows my mind it really does how you can have that little Humanity like I'm sorry like it's it's
01:03:16
just so gross if you can say that about anybody that was murdered you don't have
01:03:20
a single drop of empathy within your bones but it's so nice to know that that [ __ ] has eight life sentences
01:03:28
that he's got to serve with no possibility of parole not dangerous one of the most dangerous pris good look I'm
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telling you guys maybe like maybe we'll talk about it some more but like look up
01:03:39
that prison I don't know much about it there's been some like news you know programs that have gone into it and
01:03:45
stuff like there's there's a lot of information about it and it's there's a lot that's a that's a scary place well
01:03:51
because I I don't believe somebody like Ronald could ever be reformed no I don't think so at all no
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20 I mean that we know of 23 times and still under surveillance doing it like that is on another [ __ ] level dude
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Fearless in that aspect with that like he just wow thought he was ahead of everybody W this is a case that I think
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I mean so many cases stay with us but this one's really going to stay with me there's a lot of victims in this case
01:04:18
yeah and they were victims in several ways in the end you know what I mean like I'm they were treated really shitty
01:04:26
yeah damn yeah well so hopefully we can do something like haunted after this or like yeah you know we love to pallet
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cleanse every once in a while after a crazy one but uh we have some some wild cases coming up so yeah you know it's
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called morbid it is so we're not going to get away from that exactly well with that being said we hope you keep
01:04:48
listening and we hope you keep it weird but not so weird um as any of this because I believe in you so much more
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than that I believe in you I believe you and in [Music] you