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hey weirdos I'm Ash and I'm Elena and this right here what you're listening to in your [ __ ] ear meat is
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morbid [Music] it is morbid I'm unhinged Ash is on a space level but like I'm not fizzy fizzy
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[ __ ] up I'm just fizzy fizzy [ __ ] up on life on life unhappiness on Vibes on
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Vibes honestly on hydration yeah being Elena Elena and I um are drinking a lot of water yeah
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we're trying to hydrate more we're manifesting our health and wellness yeah we drink a lot of coffee so we gotta
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balance it out yeah I know I didn't even [ __ ] finish my coffee today whoa I didn't either and I ate a
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scary I know I don't know what to say about that it was good no I mean I put a lot of dressing on it so it really
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wasn't even a salad anymore but but you know what still got the nutrients in there ate the greens whether they were
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soaked in Parmesan peppercorn or not that's the thing yeah if you want to eat a salad you know but you want a lot of
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dressing I see a lot of girlies on Tick Tock being like no don't put the dressing on it because that will ruin
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the purpose of eating satinum it doesn't ruin the purpose Greens in your belly yeah exactly and no
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we're not nutritionists and no we're not any of those things and I realize that some of you are
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woo I don't think it's fine to eat whatever you want everybody what you want you'll be fun we're not giving
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Health advice don't worry we're not giving medical advice I'm not getting nutritional advice no I just like my
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salads with a [ __ ] ton of dressing on them and I think if that makes you happy
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you should do it too my my people I am a life coach I am that I just wanted to make sure
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like we are not giving them that's not medical advice that's just like happiness
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on your salad it's great but do it you have to do it if you want to live long [Laughter]
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it's Friday it's Friday it's not when you're listening to this I think it's probably [ __ ] Monday Tuesday
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Wednesday Thursday you could it'll be like me four or five weeks in the future if you told me I'm gonna push you off a
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cliff if you don't answer that correctly when this is coming out I could not answer you can I tell you
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whoa can I tell you why I thought of you the other day why I saw do you ever see
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those things on Instagram and it's like um like like if you invite this person to a party and they're late you win like
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several million dollars who do you invite every single time it's like gun to your head and like you have to call
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this person and they can't answer yeah or like anything like that I'm like oh Elena yeah me absolutely
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yeah yes but honestly I am the answer to that question too yes like you're the answer to the first question and the
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second I don't you well I feel like you're way better at answering I I wouldn't I don't think I would feel
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comfortable calling you if it was they can't answer I feel like I don't know she might answer well it's just I'm like
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a team you'd be like she will absolutely not answer no way she screens her [ __ ] calls when you do answer
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my phone call it's jarring yeah I think it's jarring for everybody involved but I don't like phone calls so yeah but
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you're reliable in a weird way I appreciate that I didn't want anyone to think that I was like full-blown
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insulting you that's cool yeah it's what we do here it's what we do we just insult each other [ __ ] you [ __ ] I hate
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you everybody's like what the [ __ ] is going on that's all right leave it all in yeah
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we'll leave it in this is the truth mention it all I don't you know what it is we are you know
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we're ahead of ourselves here so we're we're recording recording recording we're claiming our power back and we're
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feeling all like whoa right now I have a unicorn ponytail she does so where else
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where we are we are the scariest thing about this is I'm not kidding we are full-blown sober as a yes as a judge
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shoes actually that's honestly shoes are always sold I was gonna say there's never a time where I have can say I've
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seen or heard of a drunk shoe you have Mikey have you heard of a drunk shoe your shoe when you went to that oh my
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God that she wasn't drunk she was just a [ __ ] yeah but she was broke she was yeah she was a broke [ __ ]
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no honestly I was gonna say you could fix that shoe but no one could fix it no no one could we tried all over the place
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I was gonna say it was like at an event where we had to like walk out on stage yeah but Elena had long pants on and I
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was like just walk out yeah Barefoot and then just don't cross your legs when we
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get out there and if I do I just feel like this is who I am I don't wear shoes but no she walked out there with a
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broken heel it's true but going back to the point yeah what was it I've never seen a drunk shoe shoes are always
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pretty sober yeah but judges I don't know they like them to be yeah they should be worse you know lay down the
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law but but even when they go there yeah and even when they go out to dinner or like to a birthday party they're
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they're a judge but like still they're but they're not just like they're getting crazy at birthday
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parties no one knows what it means but it's provocative you ever been to a birthday party with a judge I have where
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are we I don't know but we're gonna find our way back we're gonna go from here where we go from here is a pretty wild
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tale it's also it's a sad tale because it involves like a really really cool lady who lost her life in a terrible way
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but then she ends up solving her own murder oh [ __ ] from Beyond Beyond Beyond beyond beyond beyond this
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is beyond so oh okay all right let me get a little so now we're gonna settle into this tale because this is a wild
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one and I think this is what Dave like loved this one too we were this is just such a good like the in the end when it
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all comes together you're like hell yeah because she like solved her own [ __ ] you
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know that song that's on Tick Tock right now where it's like yes exactly it's gonna be like that
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that's what it is it's happy in the end okay thank you for setting us up to know
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that no problem just so you can like roll with me here because there's some really sad parts I'll roll with you but
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this is the case of Teresita basa The Voice from beyond the grave and again like I said this is a case where a ghost
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possibly pointed to her own murderer now let's talk about teracita because Teresita lived a pretty cool life she
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seemed like a really cool lady very kind like just somebody who he wanted to be around Terracita Bassa was born on March
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13 1929 in dumaget city Philippines and she was the only child of Pedro and Socorro Basa
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so Teresita right off the bat was a very passionate child when she liked something she dove headfirst into it and
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she took a lot of different interests a lot of different likings to different things like she was really well-rounded
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but she really loved music and she loved gardening especially and her mother had
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this beautiful and Lush Garden in the back of their home and she showed her everything she knew about taking care of
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it and teresita's family was actually one of the wealthier on the island at the time Swanky and this afforded her
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the tools at her disposal to learn the skills that she was interested in she was able to dive into music she was able
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to take time to learn gardening and she wanted to learn piano at one point I really want to learn how to play piano I
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love the piano yeah I want to dive back into the piano really bad so her family of course wanting to like nourish
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whatever it is she was interested in they had imported a Steinway grand piano from Manila and she would sit around
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this piano know and just play for hours and she would learn all the classical music like she was amazing at it and
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when she wasn't learning to play classical music on the piano she would be sitting in front of their victrola
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with a pile of 78 records absorbing all the latest songs that had made their way
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to the Philippines I love picturing this right now right yes like it's just she sounds like a cool chick she really does
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right from the get-go too she was just like music she was into [ __ ] yeah she sounds just like a fun time yeah just
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sitting there listening to records and I'm sure it took a little while for certain songs to get to the Philippines
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so like she was discovering them on a whole different wavelength like I didn't even think of that yeah that's cool that
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is cool now when the Japanese Army invaded the Philippines in 1941 dumaget was used as a critical strategic point
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and at this time her parents were kind of agonizing over whether they should leave all together or in flea into the
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mountain regions to just avoid everything because many other people had done so and ultimately Pedro her father
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was persuaded by those in authority to stay um because the local government was like
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kind of on the verge of collapse and quote his counsel would be needed more than ever so he was a very influential
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guy in the government okay wow um and the invasion was a profound influence on Teresita who was a teenager at the time
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she had grown up and she was very used to learning English in the class classroom but was now against her
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decision being learned and forced to learn Japanese in its place oh wow and she was comfortable learning English she
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was now like thrown over to this other thing that she didn't choose right and at the same time this island paradise
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that she had enjoyed as a child where you know she knew everybody it was like they were in this nice little routine
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and you know like it was just easy easy living yeah thing it was now dramatically transformed and a lot of
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Filipinos were forced into service work for the soldiers it was really bad there
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was like a lot of bad stuff happening so very drastically different from when she
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had grown up right she's a teenager yeah that's such an in like important time in
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your life yeah and for like your home to be changed so dratically like that yeah
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and that's I mean like everything is changing everything you like as a human every apartment now everything around
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you is changing I can't imagine having to adapt to that so by 1947 the island had more or less kind of returned to
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normal luckily but for Teresita it was a lot of like trauma and a lot of memories there was a lot of violence
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there that had happened a lot of Oppression that had happened in ctsd going on yeah so she was like it just
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wasn't the same so she made the decision to move to Manila and once there she studied music at Saint sclerosis I'm
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going to try to say this I'm sorry at Saint scholastica's College I feel like you
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did that right and eventually she became a very accomplished pianist and after her graduation she ended up
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moving to London oh [ __ ] and continued her studies in music at the time at the
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Royal College of Music in London nice now London was very different than where she had grown up she had grown up in a
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tropical climate a very tight-knit Community sunlight do you like that she was very used to all that and it was
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like a whole new world for Teresita London but she loved it she loved it and whenever she could get away from school
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work she would love just exploring the city and she loved all the outdoor concerts that would happen and all the
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different things that she could go to the museums all that fun stuff that is fun so after two years at the Royal
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College of Music Teresita graduated with a certificate in piano Forte oh yeah and
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she loved being in London she loved her time away she had a good time she met some people she did some things but she
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was missing her friends and family in her home okay as we all do so she had hoped to return back home
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just for a visit but instead she actually was convinced by her friends to go on a tour of Europe with them oh [ __ ]
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and she did she ended up yeah she ended up visiting Vienna Salzburg Paris other places like all kinds of cool places
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that's a dream of mine and it was in Paris that Teresita meant a rushing composer by the name of Alexander
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cherepnan I looked up how to say that uh he definitely took a liking to Teresita but a liking in like a mentor
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way oh okay yeah I was like am I going to regret my past statement and he was very impressed by how dedicated she was
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to music her skills like just how varied she was in her musical talents and he really believed that she could become a
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great composer if she continued her studies wow what a [ __ ] compliment I know right so cherepnan and his wife
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actually both taught at DePaul University in Chicago oh funny that they met them in Paris I know and invited
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Teresita to visit them anytime she was in Chicago so it sounds like this was like meant to be yeah so in the summer
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of 1957 she was 28 years old and she ended up flying from the Philippines to Honolulu Hawaii
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and from there she traveled a pretty short distance relatively I suppose to Bloomington Indiana yeah it's only like
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a six hour flight yeah there you go Insider Insider uh and there is where she enrolled in the foreign exchange
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exchange visitors program at an Indiana University during her time there she made a lot of
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friends she really did well academically she had a good time but she didn't end up finishing her credits completely she
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was actually just a handful of credits shy of completing her Graduate Studies and she ended up relocating to
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Washington DC like out of nowhere all right and I think she was just like bebopping you know like she was just
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hitting everything bebop-a-lupa baby so she relocated to Washington DC and that's where she took a job as a typist
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with a family friend this family friend was working in the government because remember oh her parents are very
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influential like they are doing stuff in the um in the Philippines and so this was
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like a connection right and so she could do this typing job while also continuing
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to study music at the Library of Congress oh yeah she's doing everything paraceta so
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while she's working and studying in Washington DC she attended a diplomatic reception like fancy and there is where
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she met Edward O'Meara who was a Chicago lobbyist and he took an immediate liking
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to Teresita but in the Romantic sense and remember she's like a grown adult at this point yeah she's like and soon
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after this first meeting they started dating and they started spending a ton of time together and then unfortunately
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just as the relationship was kind of like taking off her visa was set to expire no and she was required to return
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to the Philippines before she could apply for U.S citizenship oh God damn so in 1965 she was 36 at this point and she
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returned home to her parents um and Edward actually came to visit a ton it came to the Philippines romance
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but during his final trip to dumaget Pedro Bassa her father found something out about Edward Edward O'Meara of
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course he did he works in the government of course he did cannot get anything past Pedro Pedro found out that Edward
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had been frequenting one of the city's brothels oh [ __ ] and that ended Teresita and Edward's relationship
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Mighty fast good and Pedro was essentially like uh I think it's time for you to leave bye and go home hit you
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on the way out or actually maybe you should yeah so Teresita was devastated Yeah by this because one it's like she's
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been duped and then now she can also never see him again yeah it's like not only has her relationship ended in this
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awful way but now her dreams of returning to the US are kind of put on hold yeah and instead now she decided
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she was just going to continue pursuing her passion for music she started teaching piano at silemon University and
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she was trying to find happiness where she was in the Philippines and but no matter how hard she she tried she really
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couldn't feel comfortable there I think she had dealt with a lot of the trauma that was still kind of like soaking into
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the ground there with growing up and being a teenager through all that and so on top of that that uncomfortability
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that she was feeling a little bit she just could never feel at home again it makes sense she was also feeling
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humiliated because she had been basically duped by this slick American guy and like that was a that was the
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talk around town she had been duped by this stupid American and even so she was excited because her
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visa ended up being approved and she was like you know what I'm gonna shake this
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up I don't need him no I don't need him to go to the United States so she was she was able to return to the United
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States without that [ __ ] I was gonna say because there's plenty more for her in the United States of course that
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loser so on December 7th 1971 42 year old Teresa Teresita basa returned to the United States okay and she had less than
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400 in her pocket and a small amount of luggage and that's all she had to start a new life damn so with help from the
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Philippines Consul Consulate in Chicago she was able to find an apartment on Mozart Street in the city's Northwest
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side how fitting yeah right Mozart Street yeah and she decided she was going to complete her Graduate Studies
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at Indiana University and in the meantime she would find more work as a typist during this time so she just went
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back to what she knew now Edward O'Meara had really traumatized Teresita and she
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was reluctant to even make new friends yeah because she didn't trust anyone exactly and she spent a lot of her time
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just reading kind of exploring the city alone and she decided she loved the city
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of Chicago and this is where she wanted to make her home now although she had hoped she'd be able
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to continue her studies and find work as a piano teacher it didn't take long for her to figure
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out that the job market for musicians was kind of small a little tough at the time the competition was fierce
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and the schedule really wasn't great for her and she wasn't going to be able to make enough money to support herself in
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the meantime so she enrolled as a student in the respiratory therapy program at the
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central YMCA Community College in September of 1972 And in the late spring of 1974 she graduated from that that
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program and she quickly found work as a therapist at Edgewater Hospital in Chicago good first so she's working as
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like a respiratory therapist she's just like rolling with the punches she's a badass like she's like oh this won't
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work I can just excel at this other thing and I'll just get a job here like she's just killing it yeah like nothing
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can deter her yeah she's just like an independent lady she doesn't need anybody and she's going to figure out
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how to make it work I love it so she working at Edgewater kind of opened up a whole new world of experiences for
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Teresita her new salary meant that she could find a new apartment a little larger and this one could accommodate a
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piano oh so in September of 1974 she moved into a big apartment and this was in the Pine Grove Apartments which was a
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new apartment building across from Lincoln Park and she immediately began looking for a small piano
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and now with her success in you know school and the new job and moving into this bigger
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place she had some new confidence and she started kind of opening up to new friends yeah and she was like you know
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what I'm working with some cool people I can hang out with these people not everybody sucks like Edward yeah it
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started making her see that like I can be I can live my normal life so she became very close with Ruth Loeb who was
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one of the hospital administrators she became one of her best friends and not long after moving into the apartment she
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found a very a small but like very reasonably priced electric organ at a music shop nearby oh that's cool and she
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had it put in her apartment now she she would play all the time and then she ended up forming a small music
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group with her cousin and a few co-workers oh that must have been so much fun yeah like it's so cute and they
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would cut and they called themselves the mahogany five plus one and they had five
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Filipino members it was her cousin and a few co-workers and then a drummer who was like the only white guy that's why
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they called themselves the mahogany five plus one that's incredible it's mahogany
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five plus plus one so the name was like a funny play on that yeah and the band played like parties and events like
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basically whenever they had time outside of work they would play at different things oh you yeah Teresita yeah and
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with the new job an apartment and a really cool small group of friends the the likes the band's happening she
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finally felt like her new life was like coming together she was feeling comfortable
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but she still had a lot of feelings from that heartbreak oh yeah I mean of course
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yeah she was still not ready to totally like give in to anybody romantically she
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was not feeling dating yeah didn't want to get out there romantically yeah and um in the fall of 1975 she got a letter
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from a former pen pal of hers Robert who was saying that he would be in Chicago for a convention and would like to take
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her to dinner okay his name was Robert Kraus I believe uh Kraus had intended to take her on a date that was his
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intention with this it wasn't like I want to take you to dinner as friends he was like I like you yeah and I want to
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take you to dinner I kind of got that fight so he showed up at her apartment to pick her up and she had invited two
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of her co-workers with her and the two co-workers said we kind of look out for her
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so he was like all right it's like okie dokie dokie so unfortunately the fear of
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getting romantically or emotionally involved with men especially would be something that you kind of have to deal
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with her whole life she wasn't ready to move on from that yeah but fortunately Teresita never let it get to her and
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never let it take away anything from her life good she was happy and she was fulfilled regardless so truly with the
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exception of like the small amount of like introvert kind of like hiding awareness that she had when she first
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arrived in Chicago she ended up loving spending time with friends she like loved any opportunity to throw a party
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she was like a social gal my kind of girly so she really got over it I also love that she was like
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you gotta go with my co-workers you know so you gotta get with my band so after what would be her eventual death because
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obviously we know how this ends I know many people would say that although she was what they referred to as a straight
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person meaning she didn't drink or use drugs yeah straight edge she always kept beer in good scotch whiskey on hand for
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whenever she was entertaining for everyone else what if I can she's so cool like my girl now one of the biggest
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and most memorable parties that Teresita ever threw was in the summer of 1976. her mother had come to Chicago for a
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visit and Teresita was so excited to take her mom around the city show her all the things that had caused her to
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just fall in love with that City and she also wanted her mom to meet all of her friends that she made you know and
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especially her co-workers like Ruth Loeb and another new friend who she had been
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spending time with at work named Alan showery so it was like a great time that's and I
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love how close she was to her mom yeah like that her mom like taught her how to garden right they had that Bond and then
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it's like she just couldn't wait to show her mom like the new city that she loved
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that's really special now at about 3 P.M the evening the afternoon of February 21st 1977. Teresita Was preparing to
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leave the hospital after a long day of work and she was putting on her coat getting ready to leave when her friend
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Alan who I just mentioned Ellen showery I didn't like your face when you said Alan yeah he came into the room and they
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just kind of chatted and they left together they were going to catch the bus together they would do that often
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because the bus went by both their Apartments so they would just get on the bus together right now on the ride home
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Teresita had mentioned to Alan that she was her television was all [ __ ] up and he was like oh I can come by tonight
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and take a look at it and see if I can try to fix it I'm kind of Handy and she was like oh that's great and then they
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kind of discussed the mahogany five plus ones upcoming show that they had and Teresita said that they might be losing
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their drummer soon and so Alan was like I can play the drums like if you need someone to sit in like I can do that
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minus one plus one exactly so Teresita was like oh you know what you can buy a ticket to see us at the show and then
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you can decide if you really want to like be a part of it yeah and at the time Alan was like I can't really like I
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don't have a lot of extra money so I can't really do it and before getting off at her stop she was like listen I'm
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gonna set a ticket aside for you and you can come pick it up later what a sweetheart yeah
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so once she'd settled in at home that that evening she called her friend who was also her bandmate Dr John Abella and
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a little after 7 PM they were just chatting on the phone they discussed the upcoming show you know they talked about
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ticket sales and how they were gonna Market it and Teresita had also said that her friend Alan who he also knew
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yup might be taking could take over the drumming seat and he was like and she was like oh it
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might be you know a good opportunity for you to hear him play if we can get you guys all together they talked for about
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10 minutes and then Teresita apparently excused herself and said someone's knocking at the door and she told she
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did tell him I was she was expecting company and she said someone who might buy a ticket to the concert okay so at
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about 7 30 p.m she was Teresita got another call and she answered okay um and it was her friend and co-worker
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Ruth Loeb and they just kind of chatted for about 20 minutes very casual chat just best friends you know besties
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besties being besties yeah and Teresita mentioned that she quote had a male visitor and Ruth did hear a male in the
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background just kind of chatting with nothing crazy but she didn't give Loeb a name and before ending the call okay
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that was the last time that Loeb or anyone else would speak to Teresita Bassa oh so a little after 8 30 P.M
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Catherine and Mario Nazi I believe it's how you say it they were cleaning up after dinner they lived on the 15th
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floor in the Pine Grove Apartments where Teresita lived I know that's high up they were just cleaning up and they'd
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you know not long after turning off the television they just kind of like settled in for the evening and Mario was
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like what is that smell and he suddenly smelled burning oh no so they were like what the [ __ ] so they all they ran
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around their apartment being like did anything burn or something left on right they couldn't find anything and Mario
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opened the door in the hallway and was immediately overwhelmed with smoke that was like filling up the floor so he
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screamed for his wife to run out with him and they started running down the hallway yelling fire and banging on
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their neighbor's doors to try to get everybody out right and as they made their way to the elevator Mario got um
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he got out of the elevator on the seventh floor to let the buildings janitor know his name was Pedro lulusa
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okay he was like I'm sending my wife to the lobby but like there's a fire we gotta get everyone out yeah which like
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badass you also shouldn't use the elevator in a fire right probably not no uh but Chicago firefighters had actually
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made their way into the hallway at this point because the fire alarms started going off and they told the men please
00:29:23
leave immediately yeah and they had to crawl on their hands and knees like under the smoke it was really thick at
00:29:28
this point and this they were going through trying to make sure everybody was out of all the different rooms and
00:29:34
they entered Teresita boss's apartment and noticed that whatever the smoke was coming from it was coming from inside
00:29:40
this apartment her apartment and not only that but it was coming from the middle of her bedroom floor like right
00:29:47
next to the bed that's where it seems to be originating that's weird and it was still burning so they used axes and they
00:29:53
smashed all the windows the balcony door in her bedroom and they just were trying
00:29:57
to vent out all the smoke and they were able to put the fire out and I think they had to use like the fire hose into
00:30:04
handheld extinguishers so it was pretty big and once they had cleared it all the
00:30:10
fire Lieutenant Warren Wellen began investigating trying to figure out what the [ __ ] was going on here and he said
00:30:17
it looked like somebody had attempted to burn the mattress in that bedroom and there was a pile of clothes on the floor
00:30:22
and it looked like the mattress had been put on the pile of clothes and then lit
00:30:26
on fire weird but so he like kicked the smoldering pile and was like what the [ __ ] is under
00:30:32
here like what's going on and that's when he discovered the nude body of Teresita basa and he found a butcher
00:30:39
knife embedded to the wooden handle in the exact center of her chest oh my God yeah
00:30:47
it was Mayhem teresita's apartment appeared to have been completely ransacked they immediately thought that
00:30:55
this was a rape murder or perhaps a robbery gone wrong and they thought it was a rape because she was found nude
00:31:00
right of course um and with the clothing and mattresses piled on the body they thought it was basically
00:31:06
set Ablaze to get rid of any evidence the fire caused a ton of damage to teresita's body
00:31:13
she had burns on both sides of her body and head and little left of her jet black hair was found
00:31:21
now fortunately though the fire hadn't made its way through the heaviest part of the clothing pile so a lot of her
00:31:27
face torso and upper legs were spared from being burned that's good now fire Lieutenant Whalen radioed the police
00:31:34
because now they had found a body and it was clearly a murdered body right and so
00:31:39
they called in the body and detectives arrived at the scene pretty quickly now to the more seasoned detectives the
00:31:46
crime scene particularly especially the pile of clothes in the center of the floor
00:31:52
it made them think of William hirons who is the lipstick killer we haven't covered him yet that's actually on my
00:31:59
list to cover he murdered several women in the mid-1940s and he would leave piles of items at the crime scene as
00:32:07
like his signature Oh weird so immediately they were like whoa this is wild but hirons had been in prison
00:32:14
for decades I was just gonna say it was no longer the 40s so they were like but they were like is this a copycat like
00:32:19
what this just is a weird thing to do yeah so but they were like I don't know what this is but it's not good so from a
00:32:26
quick search of the apartment detectives were able to identify the victim from photos and you know personal papers and
00:32:33
stuff and they noted that there were three locks on the door and not one of them had been damaged or broken at all
00:32:40
like whoever the killer was it was likely that they were led into the apartment by Teresita there was no
00:32:45
struggle in that sense the bedroom though really looked like a robbery had occurred jewelry boxes were open and
00:32:52
flung on the floor they were overturned drawers were pulled out the contents of everything was strewn around the room it
00:32:59
was a mess and the living room was kind of in a similar state of disarray like plants
00:33:03
vases tables were flipped over two televisions were side by side in front of the sofa and next to them was her
00:33:11
organ I'm also like does she have a downstairs neighbor I know that's like what happened did somebody hear anything
00:33:18
now outside the bedroom they didn't really get a lot of evidence just like aside from the chaos out there the fire
00:33:25
but they did find a note it was on a memo pad by the phone and on it was written in teresita's handwriting get
00:33:32
tickets for as right Alan showery right so officers and they they saw that and where they were like we should collect
00:33:39
that I don't know who that is so officers started going door to door interviewing residents on each floor
00:33:45
just trying to learn something about her I haven't heard anything yeah about the
00:33:49
about anyone she knew and what they found was that she was very private yeah she was a private person she kind of
00:33:57
kept to herself when it came to her neighbors right um but the neighbor said she was very
00:34:01
pleasant I just don't know a lot about her and the best lead they could find came from the janitor Pedro
00:34:08
and he told detectives that he had seen Teresita arguing with someone in the lobby a few weeks earlier he said he was
00:34:16
a white guy about 50 years old and he seemed like he'd been drinking that's weird and he said unfortunately he
00:34:22
couldn't really hear what they were arguing about because he's like I really shouldn't be listening to people's
00:34:26
conversations like I wasn't trying to we're in the city here yeah like I'm gonna leave that alone but he said he
00:34:32
hadn't seen the man before this and he hadn't seen him since teresita's neighbor across the hall
00:34:37
Bruce Campbell which I was like Wow Bruce Campbell Evil Dead um you're like not picking up what you're
00:34:47
putting down um so Bruce Campbell her you know neighbor from across the hall yeah he
00:34:53
said he had seen her with a man as well and she never told him the man's name and she didn't hear it she never
00:34:59
introduced him or anything but Campbell was like fairly certain that the man was
00:35:03
a sheet metal worker she he remembers her saying something about that okay now Catherine Nazi who was the one who had
00:35:11
helped alert everybody about the fire she gave investigators another lead she said she didn't know too much about
00:35:18
Teresita personally but she did recall hearing from another neighbor a few weeks earlier that Teresita had been
00:35:25
attacked or raped or something like that what according to Catherine Teresita apparently had been standing at the door
00:35:33
trying to get her key into the lock and a man in a ski mask grabbed her and attacked her
00:35:39
what but she didn't have any more information about that so they asked the building manager Joyce kaltman and Joyce
00:35:47
kaltzman remembered another incident in September of 1974 where they had to have
00:35:52
the locks changed after someone broke into teresita's apartment and stole some things what yeah what are you telling me
00:36:00
right now I'm not sure that's the thing like no one had any real information and
00:36:05
that was what they told them but all that's so Sinister so two separate instances where somebody broke in and um
00:36:12
one of those instances she was raped well they said she the way she said it was that she had been attacked or raped
00:36:20
or something like that what we learned is she was not raped okay she might have been attacked though yeah I mean Jesus
00:36:27
yeah now the case was assigned to 40 year old homicide detective Joseph stahula he was on the force for like a decade or
00:36:37
more definitely had already made a name for himself as like the guy who gets [ __ ] done like he's not gonna quit
00:36:43
stahula he's not gonna go anywhere and so initially he like everyone else believed this was a rape murder arson
00:36:50
robbery kind of thing making it very high profile you would say so once the scene had been secured stahula and his
00:36:58
partner Lee Burley eplin obsessed uh they headed to the apartments to kind of look over the scene
00:37:04
it was basically how they had been told it would be like very little leads to go
00:37:08
on right off the bat but in the kitchen stahula found a cutting board out on the
00:37:13
counter and there was some lettuce and half a tomato and next to that was a small piece of meat still wrapped in
00:37:19
butcher's paper okay and now the only thing that was very absent from this scene in the kitchen was a knife that
00:37:26
had been used to cut the vegetables and he assumed and was correct that it was the knife that was found protruding from
00:37:33
teresita's chest so she had been cooking with it earlier yeah now other than that
00:37:38
the detectives discovered some you know personal papers they found her dress book with a lot of names and thirty
00:37:45
dollars in cash um and that that address book had the names and numbers for like everyone she
00:37:51
knew so they were like jackpot now as stahula and Aplin made their way through this address book they were calling
00:37:57
people trying to get anything they could they finally came across the numbers of
00:38:02
Rey King and Richard pizzodi okay they were two men who had accompanied Teresita out to dinner with Robert
00:38:08
Krauss a few years earlier they were the two co-workers that were like we kind of
00:38:12
look out for her oh [ __ ] they were the ones that she brought to dinner with the
00:38:16
guy who wanted to take her out so these are good guys yeah and these two men confirmed they they came like and were
00:38:22
there for this they they confirmed that Teresita didn't have a boyfriend not to their knowledge
00:38:28
um but that she like hung out with men like I think they said she liked men for their company yeah but you they would
00:38:33
like no she wasn't romantically involved with anyone right um and they did say in the months before
00:38:39
her Murder She had like seen off and on this man named Robert Knudsen who was a construction worker in his early 50s who
00:38:47
knows if that was the guy that they had seen that the neighbors had seen her in the janitor and seen her arguing with um
00:38:54
they kind of a white guy in his 50s yeah right now the detective's next call was
00:38:59
to Ruth Loeb that was teresita's co-worker and closest friend yeah Ruth confirmed that she had spoken to
00:39:06
Teresita on the night of the murder and that the two had made plans to have lunch the following day I can't imagine
00:39:11
having that knowledge like that your friend you got off the phone who yeah and then they got murdered yeah like oh
00:39:18
my God and she had told her like I have someone like someone knocked out the door she's like I heard that person come
00:39:24
in right like oh and she told detectives that while she was on the phone with her she heard a
00:39:31
male voice that in the background and she said she couldn't make out what he was saying just that it was a male voice
00:39:37
and the best she could tell was that Teresita was you know in good spirits didn't seem to be in this man's company
00:39:46
against her will didn't seem to be like stressed out or anything very very normal conversation very normal attitude
00:39:54
and the information from Lou from Ruth confirmed the earlier suspicion that teresita's killer was likely known to
00:40:02
her and was let in voluntarily now going to the autopsy on the morning of February 22nd at the
00:40:10
morgue pathologist Dr Tai Anne began his autopsy of teresita's body uh while he was doing the autopsy
00:40:18
stahula and eplin Burley Upland there they were waiting in the corner just watching yep which Pathologists loved
00:40:24
that and among the more significant findings was that beneath the skin of her neck
00:40:31
which was totally charred the doctor did find bruising on her throat and a fractured larynx which indicated that at
00:40:38
some point before she died and was lit on fire strangled she'd been choked how did they find out if there's bruising if
00:40:44
it's charred skin because they're able to see like the where there's some like Gathering like pooled okay okay yeah
00:40:51
like underneath exactly oh I see um like because in the different layers yeah now
00:40:56
they determined that the cause of death was a stab wound lacerating the heart and strangulation
00:41:02
they also noted that teresita's body showed that she had not been sexually assaulted okay so the findings of the
00:41:09
autopsy pretty much completely undermined the theory that the detectives had been building since they
00:41:15
first got there I know she hadn't been raped she'd simply been undressed and made to look like she was raped to throw
00:41:22
the investigation off yeah so while stahula and eplin discuss the autopsy results with the Pathologists to other
00:41:29
detectives went to the home of Robert Knudsen the guy that she had gone to she had been seeing Austin on a little bit
00:41:37
um and the man he confirmed that he did know Teresita and that they've been on a
00:41:41
few dates but he said on the night of the murder he hadn't left his house except for a short trip to the grocery
00:41:46
store and they scheduled a polygraph test for him that day but apparently the officers let him take
00:41:52
a Valium before the test is that which would make the results inconclusive right but still his prints did not match
00:42:01
the second set that was found at the scene that they ended up finding I'm just picturing him like do you guys mind
00:42:06
if I take this Valium and they're like yeah that probably won't mess that up at all I think what so for months the
00:42:12
detectives poured over teresita's life that address book they talked to everyone she knew they chased down every
00:42:19
single little pulling thread that they could unfortunately while they initially would have these like promising leads
00:42:26
they would all fall apart they'd all get ruled out with an interview or a polygraph exam and by the spring all the
00:42:32
leads had dried up and they were running out of people to interview at this point
00:42:36
and in the summer after teresita's murder things at Edgewater hospital had kind of just returned to normalcy at
00:42:44
that point you know all the employees just had in the respiratory unit just had to go about their their lives that's
00:42:50
really sad because they all loved her a lot and yeah in a 39 year old inhalation
00:42:55
therapist at Edgewater named Remy Chua um she was working there she had hardly known Teresita they had literally I
00:43:04
think met each other at orientation when Remy was at orientation they had worked
00:43:08
different shifts like they did not hang out they didn't know each other very well they knew of each other okay
00:43:14
um I think they called each other a nodding acquaintanceship at best yeah and that I say this because it's strange
00:43:22
because Remy's husband and co-workers said that she became kind of preoccupied with teresita's life
00:43:29
overnight like out of nowhere one day in July Remy was sitting alone in the hospital's break room just all
00:43:37
alone and her co-workers are in the hallway and they see her almost jump out of her chair and tear out of the room
00:43:44
like something scared the [ __ ] out of her and when they looked to see what she
00:43:47
had run from there was nothing there yeah there was and so whatever it was it scared the [ __ ] out of her so badly that
00:43:55
she went home she wouldn't finish her shift okay and so Remy didn't say anything at the time but later she told
00:44:01
her husband Dr Jose Chua that she said she was sitting alone in the break room and she just kind of briefly closed her
00:44:07
eyes like kind of just like resting a little bit and then she opened them and looked up and saw Teresita basa standing
00:44:14
in front of her not moving or speaking just staring at her what the [ __ ] and she said she jumped up and ran the [ __ ]
00:44:20
out of there and she had become obsessed with her life before this happened yes okay like she kind of become like very
00:44:27
into what had happened and very into like her and asking people like you know like did you and it wasn't like she was
00:44:35
asking people like what did she like what was she into kind of thing she was almost telling people facts about her
00:44:42
that people were like how do you know that oh that's like why do you know that like
00:44:47
you don't know her yeah and she was like yeah I'm not really sure because I don't
00:44:51
know her so it sounds like she's an empath now in the days that followed teresita's appearance to Remy co-workers
00:44:58
remembered that Remy's personality shifted a lot after this they started noticing that she was very chatty when
00:45:05
she wasn't very chatty before and she would just quote chatter on about the piano about classical music playing or
00:45:13
partying like throwing parties all the things that Teresita was into so she was possessed and teresita's co-workers were
00:45:21
like this is disturbing like they had all been very close to Teresita probably like pissed them off well and it seemed
00:45:26
like this woman was doing a strange impression of her almost yeah so they all actually ended up reporting it to
00:45:33
Remy supervisor Ted Ellis and being like she's being weird and but now Remy was feeling ganged up on and kind of
00:45:40
harassed by her co-workers and who were like what the [ __ ] dude stop pretending
00:45:44
to be Teresita so she ended up reporting to Alice that she believed that had become her own hostile work environment
00:45:51
when Ellis tried to de-escalate this whole situation they're just like what is going on he's like what but he was
00:45:57
just making Remy angrier when he was trying to de-escalate it she was like I'm not doing anything like I don't
00:46:02
understand she ended up being terminated that day for gross insubordination oh man so
00:46:09
it was it was rough like obviously getting terminated out of nowhere but it was kind of a relief for Remy because
00:46:15
she said she was very confused and anxious at work like something was different and she wasn't feeling
00:46:21
comfortable there and she said you know like people making comments about the Teresita thing and like claiming that
00:46:28
she was impersonating this woman that she hardly knew like it was just getting weird there so she said like she was
00:46:34
kind of relieved that she was like out of there because she felt like something some weird energy okay and I'm sitting
00:46:40
here like what the [ __ ] is going on that evening as she and her husband Dr Jose
00:46:46
uh Chua were relaxing in their living room and she's just kind of like [ __ ] I got fired Remy kind of drifted off to
00:46:53
sleep in a chair and then a few minutes later she stood up very abruptly didn't say anything to her husband and just
00:46:59
walked into the bedroom that wasn't like her yeah and when she didn't come back a
00:47:04
few minutes later like just stayed in the bedroom Jose was like okay I'm gonna check on her so he went in there and
00:47:10
checked and she was lying on the bed with her eyes wide open and so he was like hey what's wrong you
00:47:16
okay but she wouldn't say anything so he was like what the [ __ ] like are you okay
00:47:20
and then she started speaking in toggle Tagalog I believe is how you say it which is um like their native language
00:47:28
and she was saying Mama Mama are you there mama what and Jose was very confused and he
00:47:37
was like what the [ __ ] because the chew is also they came from the Philippines
00:47:40
and they spoke to gallagh at home when you just said that they also came through the Philippi from the
00:47:46
Philippines my whole body did the wall yeah like they're like oh I have I'm covered in chills because this is the
00:47:53
language they spoke at home yeah and this is the language that Teresita would also know uh-huh and he said the voice
00:48:02
coming from his wife was not like her normal speaking voice so he said she was speaking a language I
00:48:09
understood that we speak at home but not in her this was not her voice and then he said to Jose's ear it sounded like
00:48:17
there was a slight Spanish accent here and then he said Remy had her eyes fixed on the ceiling and she said I am
00:48:24
Teresita basa holy [ __ ] and Dr chuo was like oh [ __ ] and he was like I was very
00:48:31
alarmed and she kept rambling on in this language about the dead woman whom she barely knew and he tried to get her to
00:48:39
snap out of it and just explain what the [ __ ] was going on and then she looked at
00:48:43
him and said Dr Chua I would like to ask for your help and he was like why are you calling me doctor like I am your
00:48:50
husband and he said so he was like what kind of help yeah and she responded to stop the person who killed me
00:48:59
and he was like what stops stop now stop in this moment holy [ __ ] [ __ ] Jose was like okay this has
00:49:10
been a tough week for Remy my wife she's having she's gone through some [ __ ] she
00:49:15
saw who she thought was Terracita Bossa in the break room people have been shitty to her she kind of got ganged up
00:49:21
on she was like fired from work maybe she's just really stressed and under a lot of anxiety and this is like some
00:49:29
kind of hallucination or like she's having a bad dream she's like maybe having a night terror right now so he
00:49:35
started walking towards the bathroom because he was gonna get something like a cool cloth to like calm her yeah and
00:49:41
like he sounds so sweet he does sound like a sweetie yeah Drew would be like I have to leave a meeting right and this
00:49:48
is and Jose Dr Chu is like I'm gonna take care of you like I'm gonna get you something to calm you down I promise you
00:49:53
drew would be running down the [ __ ] Street at this point and he said as he was walking towards the bathroom she
00:49:58
lifted her arm and gestured to the telephone and said call the the police please doctor call the police and tell
00:50:06
them who killed me I cannot rest until they know and Jose was kind of starting to panic
00:50:13
at this point because he's like I can't call the police right now and he was like I don't know what to tell them I
00:50:18
don't know what you're saying like I don't know what's happening right now and then Remy suddenly abruptly came to
00:50:23
and was very confused why she was in bed and what the [ __ ] was wrong with her husband why he was so alarmed this is
00:50:30
real this happened this happened and he explained to her what happened he was like um this is what just happened
00:50:36
and she was like what like I have no idea what you're talking about oh my God she must have been so scared and he must
00:50:43
have been so scared and they're like what like they had not nothing like this had happened to them before and usually
00:50:49
it doesn't in your life it's not like these people are people that are like trying to do this all the time like this
00:50:53
was a very random thing in the next day Jose had driven his wife to Edgewater to
00:50:59
get her belongings from work and they you know they came back they were in the living room and Remy was talking on the
00:51:05
phone and suddenly she hands him the phone abruptly and says Teresita wants to come back nope nope nope oh my God
00:51:13
what and then she walked out of the room in the middle of a phone call she literally stopped handed him the phone
00:51:20
said Teresita wants to come back and walked into the bedroom and so Jose was like I'm sorry my wife
00:51:28
has to call you back and ended the phone call and followed her into the bedroom and she was laying just as she was the
00:51:35
day before on the bed interesting that like she kept going back to her bedroom to lay in the middle of her bed yep what
00:51:42
and again she said I am Teresita basa I feel like I believe you and she said she
00:51:47
was murdered by a man named Alan showery yeah I already knew that and she said and she spouted this to him she said he
00:51:55
came to fix my television he stabbed me he choked me and he stole some of my jewelry
00:52:01
and she said and then she just urgently requested him please go to the police please go to the police with this and
00:52:08
she was he was so confused and he was like I can't go to the police I don't have any proof of this like I can't call
00:52:15
them and say that you are just like telling me this ghost of this woman yeah he's like I can't tell them that you're
00:52:20
telling me this beyond the grave like they will think he was like the whole thing I'm losing it right I will get in
00:52:26
trouble right and the voice just kept pleading for him to help and insisting that they could provide proof
00:52:32
and then they provided proof tell me right now they explained every piece of jewelry that he had stolen
00:52:40
and they said there was a ring that my mother had given me it was like another piece of uh and I'll explain those in a
00:52:46
little bit but that ring that her mother had given her a year before also sorry didn't he work at the
00:52:53
hospital with her yeah so this [ __ ] like do Remy and um doctor and they know him yeah what yep now as they provided
00:53:04
this proof of this is what he took from me Remy came too and was again completely confused what just happened
00:53:12
and this happened again the following day the exact same thing over and over with the voice saying I know like please
00:53:20
call please provide this proof please tell them that this is what's happening so Remy was like when she came to and he
00:53:27
told her again that this is you keep doing this this is the third day yeah Remy was like we gotta do something it's
00:53:34
just gonna keep happening otherwise Remy called a friend and told the friend the
00:53:38
story and this friend who I guess was collect connected to the consulate they placed a call to the Evanston Police and
00:53:45
using their connections were like this is what I've heard is happening right they didn't give him the full rundown I
00:53:51
guess but they didn't give them the rundown from the great the whole thing so the tip about the chuas was assigned
00:53:56
to detective Floyd McKinney at the Evanston Police okay um and he drove to the chew his home to
00:54:01
interview them this is absolutely wild so they were worried that the detective was not going to take the story of
00:54:11
teresita's spirit possessing Remy's body and telling them I feel like most people
00:54:15
really well that way now remember if they were looking to get something out of this and they were looking to like
00:54:21
get attention they would have just said it yeah they would have been like wow she got possessed like this would have
00:54:26
been like that thing no they didn't know they just told McKinney that Remy had received a threatening phone call from a
00:54:32
former co-worker Alan showery and that she believed that he could have played part in teresita's Murder because of how
00:54:39
aggressive he was and that he had mentioned something that made her think guys this is wild so they were like we
00:54:46
have to get Alan's name out there because Teresita is telling us yeah but we can't tell that Teresita told us this
00:54:52
because then they so they made up a story right which it's like why would they have done that no they would have
00:54:58
just said it if they were trying to get attention oh my God I like losing it so there's no actual evidence to support
00:55:03
this at the moment and McKinney the detective just kind of took the statement left the house like I'll write
00:55:08
it down I guess yeah he was like wow that's wild and back at the station he reported it to his supervisor like you
00:55:14
know they have this name they got a threatening phone call they think it could be connected so his supervisor was
00:55:20
like and pass this on to Chicago where the jurisdiction is so you know they would have to be the ones to conduct
00:55:26
this so they did so detective McKinney and Evanston was the one who received the tip okay and they hadn't had any
00:55:33
leads in the case since the end of April so he was like awesome like well we'll just go with this and he was not aware
00:55:41
of all the specifics obviously he got that he got that story from it yeah but he explained to the people in Chicago
00:55:48
that he had received a tip from this couple in Evanston about a man named Alan showery being involved possibly in
00:55:55
the basa murder and it was stahula obviously who heard this tip and he got the tip and he placed a call to the
00:56:03
chuas the next day okay so now this is tahula in Chicago who's now having the contact the chuas where did sorry where
00:56:09
did the chiwas live they lived in Evanston oh which is just another jurisdiction that's why they had to like
00:56:14
I see um and apparently they had lived about a half a half hour outside of Chicago so
00:56:22
stahula had to go you know to their address he had to go sit down and talk to them and he was like what do you guys
00:56:27
know right now at first they stayed with the story they heard they received a harassing phone call from a man that
00:56:34
Remy believed was Alan showery yeah and she explained that showery worked as what she thought was an orderly at
00:56:41
Edgewater she was like I'm not really sure what he does there's different reports that he was an orderly or he was
00:56:47
in a like a respiratory therapist okay but she said he likes to pretend he's a doctor
00:56:53
he even gets mail addressed to Dr showery that's something something about the story seemed a little strange to
00:57:01
stahula he just had like his revealing yeah his radar but he senses are tingling yeah yeah and he said the
00:57:07
chewers were being a little cagey and they seemed a little reluctant to talk uh-huh which he thought was weird right
00:57:14
and he was like this seems kind of just like a prank phone call like I don't know about this and he said every time
00:57:21
that showery's name was brought up he could see Jose tense up and become uncomfortable really so he was like
00:57:28
what's going on and he kind of pressed on them a little bit and was like what what do you know like what's happening
00:57:33
here and finally Jose leaned towards him and said tell me Mr detective do you believe in the occult or an exorcism
00:57:41
and so he was like I'm open-minded okay and so I think she was explained the events of the previous week the real
00:57:50
events they told the detective Jose had asked the Voice who killed Teresita and she
00:57:57
had said Alan showery and he said she kept repeating his name over and over and over and Joseph said or excuse me
00:58:05
Jose said he said he killed me he killed me he killed me over and over and over then he added credibility to the story
00:58:14
because Jose explained that the voice had said that showery had taken her jewelry and so shua said okay and he was
00:58:24
like so he didn't even give him the specifics of that yet he was like he took his her jewelry and he was like all
00:58:28
right we don't know that yet because people said they didn't think anything was missing from the scene right but he
00:58:33
then he was like I'm going to test this so he goes did the voice indicate to you
00:58:37
that her killer raped her and Jose said oh no no she did not she only said that she had been stabbed oh
00:58:45
wow and Jose also then right after this went into the description of the jewelry
00:58:52
and said that it was a pendant from the Philippines that was taken a cocktail ring with a pearl inlay given to
00:58:59
Teresita by her mother a couple of years earlier and also that the I guess that the voice insisted that this was going
00:59:07
to be how they would know the truth like I guess the voice was literally like you
00:59:10
tell the police this they are going to find these things in showery's possession yeah I promise you this
00:59:17
so he was like [ __ ] this is pretty wild but like how are we gonna get a search
00:59:22
warrant that's the thing like this this this whatever and he was like okay it's weird because in the Press they had said
00:59:31
this was possibly a rape murder robbery it was not in the press that she had not
00:59:36
been sexually assaulted so that was a a strange one and when he went back to the
00:59:41
stations tahula considered the whole thing he didn't know what to make of it and like I said no one had reported that
00:59:48
any jewelry was missing from teresita's apartment and he said they had interviewed most but not all of the
00:59:54
co-workers that she worked with and Nev no one ever really talked about a man named Alan showery
01:00:01
and then he's flipping through the case File and he comes across the memo pad next to the to the tele that was next to
01:00:07
the um telephone Yelp and it said on that memo pad get tickets for as and he was like huh Alan showery the fact that
01:00:18
she was gonna get him get him free tickets and this is what he [ __ ] did to her yeah now fortunately it turned
01:00:24
out that whoever received the call from the Evanston Police earlier in the day like to take that tip and pass it on to
01:00:31
the detectives they had already run shower's name for them which I was like badass yeah like ahead of things so they
01:00:37
had already pulled his full report his full case file for stahula so he was like yeah you're an MVP you're the real
01:00:44
one Alan showery was 30 years old when he started working at the edgewaters hospital yeah he was born and raised in
01:00:51
New York City he'd studied sociology and psychology at New York University and Utah State wow before settling in
01:00:58
Chicago around 1969. so like I said there's varying reports whether what his job at the hospital was
01:01:05
but he did work with Teresita yeah alongside her right um they didn't seem like they would be
01:01:11
likely friends because on paper they are very different yeah he had an arrest record that was like very long but she
01:01:18
probably didn't know that um that included arrests for burglary in 1967 stolen mail in 1966 theft in 1971.
01:01:27
two arrests for rape in 1972. what was he doing working at a hospital yep and both of those rapes were done on
01:01:35
Chicago's north side where Teresita lived all right now they were but they were both friendly with each other they
01:01:42
had very outgoing personalities the two of them they bonded together they both loved music he was about to be in her
01:01:48
band I guess they really got along like the two of them were like friends yeah it sounded like it they used to ride the
01:01:52
bus together in the mid-1970s he had been living with his german-born girlfriend Janka kalmak
01:01:59
um she he they lived on the city's north side which was opposite the Chicago Transit Authority okay so investigators
01:02:06
were like he was not outwardly obviously a guy that would have rape or murder on
01:02:12
his rap sheet they said he was the sort of person that like you could easily come to like he had a face that
01:02:18
projected I want to be your friend that's scary and it took some time to actually track him down
01:02:24
but once they got him at his apartment and knocked on the door he seemed perfectly fine with going down to these
01:02:30
stations and talking to the detectives and before they'd even arrived at the station he asked if whatever they wanted
01:02:36
to talk about had to do with Teresita Basa they didn't respond they just brought
01:02:41
him into the interrogation room and immediately read him his rights and the detectives explained that they'd been
01:02:47
speaking with a lot of his co-workers at the hospital and there were some things
01:02:51
that were said that kind of LED them to want to talk to Alan that's what they let out yeah they didn't say that
01:02:56
Teresita told us you did it I hope he did find that out eventually Terrace is so showery claimed that he and teresito
01:03:03
were very good friends but he said it was platonic he explained they would talk during work they would ride the bus
01:03:09
home together they ate lunch together it was a very normal co-worker friendship wow now initially he said that he hadn't
01:03:15
seen Teresita outside of work for about six months but the detectives decided to Bluff a
01:03:21
little and they told them that they'd found his fingerprints at the apartment they had not yeah and he said there was
01:03:27
no way that those were six months old so he was like okay and then he revised his story uh oh
01:03:34
and that's when he told the detectives that not only had he not not seen her in six months out of sight of work he had
01:03:40
ridden the bus home with Teresita on the day that she was murdered right like that's gonna look a little weird dude
01:03:45
yeah and he told them he'd promise to go to her apartment later that night to fix
01:03:49
her television but he said he'd forgotten and instead had gone home and he had fixed wiring in his own apartment
01:03:55
and he assured them that his girlfriend would verify this all by I bet she would
01:04:00
now they were like huh okay and they were like you have a girlfriend I wonder if she has new jewelry
01:04:09
so they said I wouldn't have even thought of that yep and now that they have brought him in for questioning they
01:04:17
could now search his apartment so they went and Janko was there so they could question
01:04:23
her and when they told her about The Alibi she was very confused and said we don't have any problems with the wiring
01:04:29
in here he never did any work on it she was just like [ __ ] that no he didn't and so they were like can we look in
01:04:36
your jewelry box and she was like absolutely you can good for her and they didn't really know what they were like
01:04:41
looking for quite yet but they you know they were just like I don't know at this
01:04:45
point they were like maybe you can hear me it's not and they eventually they were able to find someone like one of
01:04:52
her friends who could actually look in the jewelry box too and point to see if anything was recognizable one of
01:04:58
teresita's friends exactly and so they found um who they found was Richard pizzodi
01:05:03
who was one of the two men that went on and uh he said he didn't see anything that he believed belonged to Teresita
01:05:11
and they had him come down where Yanko was and look into this thing and he was like yeah I don't see anything that's
01:05:17
hers and then he was leaving the room and he looked over at Yanka and he said that ring on her finger is teresitas
01:05:27
yeah Yanka told detectives that Allen had given her the ring as a belated Christmas gift sometime around the end
01:05:34
of February sorry what the actual thought so she said here you go take it and it was later identified by
01:05:42
teresita's cousin to be the cocktail ring given to her by her mother oh my God that's disgusting but he gave that
01:05:48
to his girlfriend as a late Christmas gift yep and the cousin also looked and was able
01:05:54
to look in the box and identified a jade pendant that was teresita's and I remember her
01:06:01
Remy had said there's a jade pen there's a pendant she said she said a pendant a
01:06:05
ring and a cocktail ring that belongs to in a cocktail ring that belongs to my mother yeah that was my mother right
01:06:11
right right and he said the cousin said there was also two other items in there that he believed belonged to Teresita as
01:06:17
well this is so horrific now after he heard about the jewelry and about his girlfriend denying The Alibi showery
01:06:25
tried to spin a story about how he bought that jewelry from some guy on the street
01:06:31
detectives just kind of looked at him and were like really is that really the [ __ ] story you want to go with he
01:06:37
immediately dropped it and he said I murdered her just confess why like boom according to Alan he said he
01:06:46
did go to teresitas that evening to look at the television set to fix it for her
01:06:50
but he realized it he needed to get his Tools in order to fix it so he went back
01:06:54
to his apartment a few hours later around 7 30 P.M that's when he was going back to her
01:07:00
apartment and he said he just decided he was going to rob her so he said the reason was he said he had
01:07:07
been helping Teresita obtain citizenship papers and it had on several occasions driven her to the Naturalization office
01:07:15
and after he would do this she would always give him a cash tip of five or ten dollars for just for helping her out
01:07:22
so he decided to rob her so he assumed that she had money in her apartment this is why you shouldn't be kind to people
01:07:28
no you shouldn't because also she didn't she had thirty dollars right she didn't
01:07:32
like she was just doing that out of the girl she just did that to help you and yeah he broke so he said at the time of
01:07:38
the murder he was very broke he was behind on all his bills he was very desperate well got another job [ __ ]
01:07:44
and as soon as Teresita closed the door after letting him in he grabbed her from
01:07:48
behind and gave her a choke hold she lost Consciousness very quickly and he said he laid her down on the
01:07:55
floor and just started ransacking the place for money all he found was thirty dollars in cash
01:08:00
and what he thought was expensive looking jewelry so once he'd ransacked the place he went
01:08:06
back to the living room he picked her up off the floor carried her into the bedroom and he said he didn't know what
01:08:11
to do so he decided to make it look like rape so he took her clothing off went to the
01:08:16
kitchen and got that knife off the counter that she'd used to cut up the lettuce and the the tomato
01:08:22
and he stabbed her into her sternum holy [ __ ] according to Alan he described Teresita as being subconscious at the
01:08:31
time which I was like nope incorrect you work at a [ __ ] hospital and he said she didn't feel anything who the [ __ ]
01:08:39
are you to say that yeah like you don't even know she wasn't dead unconscious and subconscious after so he said he
01:08:45
piled some clothes on top of her body dragged the mattress over to her and set fire to a paper bag that he put on top
01:08:52
of the clothing and once that was all on fire he fled the apartment and went back to his what
01:08:57
a piece of human garbage now during this questioning stahula put in a bunch of control questions to see if he was
01:09:07
telling the truth or if he was just repeating things he had heard in the media yeah because he wanted to be sure
01:09:12
this was an accurate confession and not somebody gonna claim that they were forced into it smart guy so
01:09:18
Allen accurately described the scene in the apartment which wasn't released to the Press he described what Teresita was
01:09:25
wearing he said what he'd stolen none of that was in the newspapers and he also said that he wanted to quote make it
01:09:32
look like a sex crime and that he had not sexually assaulted her and none of that had been released to the media wow
01:09:39
so the confession was very genuine and you know just to be sure they had him go through it a second time and they said
01:09:46
he never wavered from that confession and so they took him out of the room and they said as he went by Yonka who was
01:09:54
standing out there he told her that he probably wouldn't be seeing her again for a long time I can't even imagine
01:09:59
what she said to him yeah now everything had worked out it seemed and the detectives were really confident that
01:10:05
they had enough to give the district attorney for prosecution I mean they had everything stuff the only issue is that
01:10:13
they weren't sure how to explain how they'd even made their way Talent showery right but there was no way
01:10:18
around it they had to tell the judge and the jury that the ghost of Teresita basa
01:10:23
spoke through Remy Chua and led them to their killer I mean and the thing is they may not have been able to explain
01:10:31
what happened but they were right about every detail right so it's like this is gonna sound kind of kooky but everything
01:10:39
is right what happened and it led us here so the case was assigned to Thomas organ of the Cook County District
01:10:45
Attorney's Office who would be representing the state yeah and at first Oregon was a skeptical of the voice from
01:10:52
the grave story I think so and he had no idea how he was going to present this case to a jury he said in my five years
01:10:59
as a prosecutor handling 70 or so felony cases I've never run into anything like
01:11:04
this also sorry is his last name Oregon yeah wow yeah right but he he dove into it and he researched it investigated it
01:11:12
and he said they're telling the truth everything in this case just like lines up and like it
01:11:18
does like spiritually physically and he said he was like I believe the chew is how can I not yeah because they didn't
01:11:25
even know what it tells us to begin with that's the thing like that and I feel like that gives more credibility yeah
01:11:29
they didn't run out to tell this to anyone right exactly so a pre-trial hearing was held in the Circuit Court of
01:11:35
Cook County on September 7th 1978 and this is when Allen's defense attorney William swanno
01:11:43
he tried to have the charges dismissed because of the unusual circumstances that preceded his arrest it's like yeah
01:11:49
sure but like why does your client have everything and know everything about her
01:11:53
well he's claiming that Remy Chua had faked the episodes because she'd been fired she was stressed out she was
01:11:59
trying to get attention Okay and prosecutor Thomas organ argued that the detectives had pursued a viable lead and
01:12:05
found probable cause to arrest Alan showery so the paranormal thing that preceded it
01:12:11
was unusual but ultimately irrelevant because it led to the truth and the judge agreed wow and Allen yeah and Alan
01:12:20
showery was ordered to stand trial for the first degree murder of Teresita Basa yeah because he had planned the whole
01:12:27
thing Alan showery went on trial January 8 1979 and the media went nuts about this Thomas organ knew he was fighting a
01:12:37
very uphill battle with this you know a lot of his case was resting on a tip from a ghost so you know that'll be a
01:12:44
little bit difficult but he he fought through he was undeterred in the months since the case had come to him he had
01:12:50
interviewed that she was again and again and he said it was Mo you know I was trying to get I knew they were going to
01:12:56
be on the stand and he said also I was looking for holes in the story right and he found nothing
01:13:02
and he said in front of the jury Oregon tried to minimize the supernatural claims and just kind of focus on the
01:13:08
facts of the case which was a case of murder and robbery and not ghosts in possession so he was like the reality of
01:13:15
the case is that there is evidence in his possession to say he murdered her yeah and he was like I don't want the
01:13:22
jury to forget that that there's facts here regardless of how we got here we got here so for the most part his
01:13:28
argument remained much as it had during the pre-trial hearing with Alan showery had been confronted with undeniable
01:13:36
proof of his involvement and with the jewelry yeah and on that he had given an oral and written confession to murdering
01:13:44
her so that is the facts yo and the defense argued that showery had been arrested on nothing more than the chua's
01:13:51
unbelievable story of possession and that Alan had only confessed to spare his girlfriend from being arrested along
01:13:58
with him and giving birth to their children in jail because apparently she was pregnant oh my God that's horrific
01:14:04
now Remy Chua was in the process they said was in the process of being fired from her job she had personal problems
01:14:11
they didn't release what those personal problems were because they probably didn't exist but they told the story The
01:14:16
Jury that he she had just made up this possession thing this whole act to get attention
01:14:21
and sure anybody hearing that would be like under normal circumstances sure yeah tell me that she's stressed out she
01:14:29
lost her job there was all this weird [ __ ] going on maybe she wants attention sure why not
01:14:36
except that from the start that she was didn't want to report the whole thing even they were reluctant reporters and
01:14:43
reluctant Witnesses they didn't want to talk about any of it they were stressed out talking about it they were very
01:14:50
reluctant and also like cool she got fired from her job she has all these personal problems she made this up uh
01:14:56
why was the jewelry the girlfriend's projection why did it pan out and why did he know the apartment scene if he
01:15:03
hadn't been there and how did he know that she hadn't been raped if he wasn't the one to not rape her exactly and at
01:15:10
no time had the Jewish tried to make money off of or capitalize on this story no time right never like they had
01:15:18
nothing to gain here in fact everyone who knew them and anytime anyone talked to them they were like we really just
01:15:24
want to go away like we don't want to be part of this story anymore we don't want
01:15:28
to we don't want to be in the spotlight we just want to leave leave this for you
01:15:32
to fix and that's it because realistically I just said they have nothing to gain really they have
01:15:36
everything to lose they've at least I mean he's like a doctor or like yeah like people will doubt him if he like
01:15:43
made this up and yeah and she's a respiratory therapist like they have like you know do they have good jobs
01:15:49
they have reputations like this wouldn't be a good thing they're not trying to be
01:15:52
like you know they're not running around to all the media let's be like let me tell you my story of possession they're
01:15:57
like please don't talk to me right exactly and so in their closing arguments both sides tried to hammer
01:16:03
home those arguments that they've been making the whole time the defense kind of focused on the Paranormal part being
01:16:08
like this is crazy trying to put in the jury's mind this is wild also propping up showers claim that he had been
01:16:15
coerced into confessing by because the detectives had threatened to arrest his girlfriend as an accessory okay now
01:16:23
Thomas organ dismissed any claims of coercion saying to the jury that his story might be believable if it came
01:16:30
from a 16 year old boy who might be easily intimidated yeah exactly but they said Alan showery is an adult educated
01:16:37
man with an extensive criminal history that's the other thing he's literally done she's driven this before and as for
01:16:44
the Supernatural part about the chuas he told them it doesn't matter as to guilt
01:16:48
or innocence what does matter is that the information furnace to police checked out and after 13 hours of
01:16:55
deliberation the jury sent a note to the judge on the afternoon of Friday 20th January 26th saying that they were
01:17:03
hopelessly deadlocked I would think because can you imagine like 13 hours in there going back and forth and the judge
01:17:10
dismissed the jury and a new trial was set for February 14th oh they needed Ronald
01:17:16
so February 14th came and went and the judge had to order a continuance which got the defense really feeling good
01:17:22
because they started getting confident that they could get an acquittal the second time around
01:17:27
but on the evening of February 21st only a few days later Alan showery called his
01:17:32
lawyer and asked him to arrange a meeting with the judge and the district attorney
01:17:36
the next day showery and lawyers from both sides stood in front of the judge and Alan showery against the advice of
01:17:45
his attorney pleaded guilty to the murder of Teresita basa do you think Teresita was like appearing to him at
01:17:51
this I wonder if she was like you [ __ ] I'm gonna haunt your ass right and he was like I'm just gonna admit this yeah
01:17:57
the District Attorney's office confirmed that they had no plea deal they had not
01:18:02
offered a deal for this wow I feel like he had to have been being haunted and honestly I hope that even after he pled
01:18:07
guilty he continued to be haunted that's what I think and showery would not give
01:18:12
an explanation for why he decided to do this that's what makes me think we already know yep and his lawyer asked
01:18:18
the judge for leniency so that's all they could do and the judge considered everything and the request for leniency
01:18:24
and sentence Alan showery to concurrent terms of 4 to 12 years on armed robbery and arson charges
01:18:33
what about the murder he was never convicted of the murder from what I can tell he was convicted of armed Rob of robbery
01:18:41
and arson that's why he got that sentence what so I wonder if there was some kind of plea
01:18:48
deal that happens because it's very confusing that doesn't make any [ __ ] sense that they were just like yeah I
01:18:54
guess we'll just throw the murder off the table for no [ __ ] reason no big deal but he admitted to it
01:18:59
which is so wild I wonder if he had information on like another I wonder something like something is out there
01:19:06
that we don't know about that doesn't make any sense and also that pisses me the [ __ ] off because he served the
01:19:12
minimum four years of his sentence and was paroled in 1983. what the actual [ __ ] are you kidding me yep he oh my God
01:19:20
Terracita baby if you didn't haunt him and that is the story of Teresita basa four years he sir four years he served
01:19:31
for that I know tarzi does the baddest [ __ ] alive and the baddest [ __ ] afterlife also and good for the chuas
01:19:41
yeah for listening to her and for like being brave really brave enough to tell a detective when they didn't want to
01:19:49
that this is what had happened that and good for Yanka for just being like sure come on in and like no I'm not
01:19:57
telling you his Alibi is correct like no he did not work on wiring that's like good for Yanka
01:20:02
but like damn but what do we not know because that doesn't make any sense that like in my opinion it really sucks
01:20:10
because Justice wasn't served no it really wasn't our years is not a sentence for that and she like nobody
01:20:16
ever went to prison for her murder yeah I'm so angry right I was too I was very angry [ __ ] there's something that
01:20:24
happened in that trial that we that is not public that we don't know about that definitely is hidden somewhere in the
01:20:31
annals of that record I I just had like a gut feeling that he had information on
01:20:36
another there had no thing something like that because that's nothing like because he had to have helped them in
01:20:42
some big way yeah and that's and Dave said the same thing he was like there had to have been some kind of deal that
01:20:47
happened that we don't know off the books yeah that is infuriating yeah we only got the arson and robbery charge
01:20:55
honestly I not only hope that he gets haunted for the rest of his life I hope everybody in that deal right involved in
01:21:01
that deal also got them Terracita Teresita you know what but no you know what if that's what you want to do go
01:21:06
ahead but like live your afterlife yeah cause you know what she said I can't move on until they know that he did it
01:21:12
they hopefully she just got him to admit it yeah and then was like now I can move
01:21:16
on exactly I hope she is like playing piano shows in the afterlife strumming on her organ yeah I hope that like men
01:21:25
treated her better in the afterlife I was hanging out with her parents I know she's just like having fun best I hope
01:21:30
she's she's going to London sometimes yes to hang out and have some fun I hope she like quickly dropped by Edward's
01:21:36
house just to be like just to scare the [ __ ] out of him I hope so too I would do
01:21:40
that yeah hell yeah wow Terracita what a wild story yeah what an infuriating story truly because the fact that she
01:21:47
invited him into her home and was in invited him into her band like thought he was a friend and that's what he did
01:21:53
that's how much of a friend she considered him she was gonna have him be in the band she was getting trusted him
01:21:59
coming into her house to fix this TV she was going to come from tickets like she
01:22:03
tipped him every time he drove her somewhere and she didn't actually really have that much money and telling like
01:22:08
her friends in the band that like oh I have this friend you know Alan is going to be in the band yeah like right like
01:22:12
like a word of recommendation yeah wow I'm so angry right now me too great story though wild story wild story
01:22:23
um and with that being said we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird but not as weird as the beginning
01:22:29
of the show because we were like wild and yeah keep it as weird as paraceto keep it as weird as Teresita for sure
01:22:34
and maybe do keep it so weird that you're just like wilding out in a fun [Music]